The Mostly Overlooked British War Engines - WD Austerities

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  • In today's video, we take a look at the often overshadowed British War Department Austerity locomotives
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  • @TrainFactGuy
    @TrainFactGuy  7 місяців тому +126

    Yes, I am aware Ruairidh MacVeigh made a video on these engines last week.
    This video was made in advance and scheduled to come out today. There is nobody more aware of how bad the timing of this upload was than me

    • @AndrewtheLNERA1
      @AndrewtheLNERA1 7 місяців тому +2

      It’s ok

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 7 місяців тому +8

      The funny part is you mention details he did not so both video's compliment each other.
      The nick names Jeep and little Jeep was given by the footplate crews in the Netherlands
      the entire network was ruined by war and those sturdy ex WD engines did rebuild our country.
      The only 0-10-0 who ever got a nameplate WD73755 (Longmoor, the 1000th engine shipped out abroad out of Longmoor in WW2) is the one who is on static display and a MAIN attraction in the Dutch railway museum.
      She was repainted back into here original WD livery when the Dutch railway museum had in 2013 the Rails to the Frontline exhibit.
      UK's Royal artllery and engineer corps did partly restore and transport a WW1 railway artillery gun for that exhibition.
      Discovery channel made a documentary about that in the series big moves.

    • @SteveLego
      @SteveLego 7 місяців тому

      I actually wanted to leave a comment joking about this, when in reality I love both of you and I think a collaboration between you two will be really interesting!

    • @SteveLego
      @SteveLego 7 місяців тому

      I also want to add something else: you two have two different style of describing events or objects, and it’s nice to see two sides of the same thing described by two different people, it shows just how many ways there are of telling the same story

    • @mikefaulkner5306
      @mikefaulkner5306 7 місяців тому

      More videos about WD locos is always good. Both of you give different views on it, I like it ☺️

  • @cedomirdjurisic3094
    @cedomirdjurisic3094 7 місяців тому +179

    "I think they deserve a little remeberence too, don't you?" Thomas and Friends outro plays.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 7 місяців тому +65

    Wooferdonk is probably one of the funniest names you could give a steam engine from a onomatopoeia stand point.

    • @Combes_
      @Combes_ 7 місяців тому +4

      Wooferdunk, also, there's nothing that says that a dog can't play basketball...

    • @ivanthevaluable2559
      @ivanthevaluable2559 7 місяців тому

      Watch Hyce's episode on the subject... Leighton Moreland nearly made me choke on my crackers that time!

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans4377 7 місяців тому +33

    I feel Riddles himself is a bit of an unsung hero too. He didn't design the most glamourous locos, but they were extremely effective and did what they were designed to do, for the most part.

  • @ImperatorZor
    @ImperatorZor 7 місяців тому +45

    Rail development in Australia was severely messed up during the 19th century. Before Federation, each colony in Australia was basically it's own little domain and could do things however it felt like. This included railway construction. Some went for narrow gauge railways, others went for standard gauge and others went for wide gauge. As such, you'd often have to get off your train half way through your journey and get on a new one for the rest of your trip.
    A similar thing happened in Brazil.

  • @ansonleeXD
    @ansonleeXD 7 місяців тому +13

    As a Hong Konger railfan myself, had I remembered correctly the ozzies are the last operating steam locomotives in the region, with the final one withdrawn in 1963.They were the region’s most iconic standard gauge steam locomotives and the most well known.They are in a Brunswick-like green complete with red wheels, a sight to behold.Sadly none are preserved

    • @autobotoctolingthomasho3362
      @autobotoctolingthomasho3362 7 місяців тому +1

      Welp, blame the property companies then, since locomotive preservation needs a ton of land anyway.
      Just my opinion, but I think environmental organizations would probably hate steam locos as well, since steam locos cannot conbust fuel well, then boom , air pollution.

    • @ansonleeXD
      @ansonleeXD 7 місяців тому +1

      I think it is due to back in the 1960s in Hong Kong, railway preservation isn’t quite a thing yet, and it is not considered for retired locomotives. The railway at that time didn’t consider the historical significance of them. But at least nowadays they preserved three EMD diesel units (a G12, G16 and G26) and a number of metro cammell emu units.

  • @garryferrington811
    @garryferrington811 7 місяців тому +5

    The 2-8-0 wheel arrangement was amazingly adaptable. You never see them on American model railways, yet they were everywhere doing everything.

  • @ABunchOfSpanners
    @ABunchOfSpanners 7 місяців тому +21

    As a yorkshireman, I have to correct you at 8:05, it's pronounced Keith-ley not Keeleigh! Great video though, I've been pulled by that very locomotive on the KWVR. 110% Worth a visit!

    • @zacm.2342
      @zacm.2342 7 місяців тому

      Was about to say the same!

  • @KeijiSuwa
    @KeijiSuwa 7 місяців тому +12

    The UK may not have been very interested in the WD Austerity 2-10-0s, but they would later see the true potential of the wheel arrangement with the BR 9F, which was also designed by Robert Riddles.

  • @Alexeverts3
    @Alexeverts3 7 місяців тому +6

    Nice video! I have a small correction though. In The Netherlands, the ''small Jeeps'' (NS 4300 series) remain in service until 1957, the last year of steam in The Netherlands. Even in 1958 some of the remaining Jeeps were used for heating purposes, deicing switches, and some shunting. It was a very important and relevant steam locomotive class in the country. It is therefore a bit painful that the only surviving NS 4300 is now in the UK in a fantasie livery... Especially because it is the only active (hopefully soon!) mainline Dutch steam engine...

  • @LucaWinstanley-ox4in
    @LucaWinstanley-ox4in 7 місяців тому +13

    FINALLY! A VIDEO ABOUT THE WDS! I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO MAKE ONE!

  • @Rookie-Ish
    @Rookie-Ish 7 місяців тому +21

    New train of thought vid dropped 🔥🔥

    • @Ludi_Chris
      @Ludi_Chris 7 місяців тому

      Whoop whoop 🙌

  • @theblackleafninja3858
    @theblackleafninja3858 7 місяців тому +22

    The WD austerities will always be my favorite war time locomotives

  • @sirmatsdubois2509
    @sirmatsdubois2509 7 місяців тому +2

    Okay it's actually very ironic that you were talking about these engines. I actually Drew these austerity designs recently so it's fine to see so many people suddenly talking about them. Still, it's great to see Such beautiful engines getting their time in the spotlight.

  • @jerrysgardentractorsengine2243
    @jerrysgardentractorsengine2243 8 днів тому

    War Department Austerity’s: *designed in a way that they could be easily mended with shoelaces*
    James the red engine: “disgusting!”

  • @Duck64906
    @Duck64906 7 місяців тому +5

    8:20 Oh it's the locomotive that is from that one Gordon image from a video from trainboy the dark side of day out with thomas

  • @Alzaar_The_Gunzel
    @Alzaar_The_Gunzel 28 днів тому

    One of the preserved Greek locos (OSE Class AB No. 962) is preserved by the Drama Railway Museum and is brought out every year and paired with an orient express car and shunted by a 4x4 to a station for Christmas events.

  • @C.A.A93
    @C.A.A93 7 місяців тому

    always a pleasure to sit down after a week of work with a new video of yours

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye 7 місяців тому +1

    Glad that one 2-8-0 survived, they were considered the better of the 2 wheel arrangements, also in the Netherlands. Here they ran all sorts of trains including passengers, and not all WDs were withdrawn by 1952, the 2-10-0s were out of service by 1952, but the last 2-8-0 ran until almost the end of steam in 1958.

  • @Oswaldo.
    @Oswaldo. 5 місяців тому

    The Dutch also gave the NS 4300 (2-8-0s) Smoke deflectors, from running board to near the top of the smokebox and the small little smoke deflectors that were mounted on top of the smokebox

  • @DennisLora2001
    @DennisLora2001 7 місяців тому

    Awesome video man well done 4:35

  • @Ludi_Chris
    @Ludi_Chris 7 місяців тому +5

    I think I have a new favourite engine.

  • @Jpwfranks
    @Jpwfranks 7 місяців тому

    It would be really cool if you would do a video on the top 5 or so longest in continuous operation steam engines in the world!

  • @wilfstor3078
    @wilfstor3078 7 місяців тому +1

    If this is unintentional it's a brilliant coincidence, but I can't help but notice that the nickname "Woofer Dunk" has its first letters come from the locomotives official names as WD locos

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 7 місяців тому

      I've never heard of this nickname, just the Dub Dee nickname.

  • @EdwardChan.999
    @EdwardChan.999 7 місяців тому

    Hong Kong's railway museum has no mention of these locomotives 😅 Thanks for the video!

  • @multifan75
    @multifan75 7 місяців тому

    Looks like I found another favorite UK steam locomotive.

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 7 місяців тому

    They were used on the GN&LNW Joint line between Nottingham or Newark and Market Harborough with ironstone trains. Last one I saw was at New England, Peterbro' in the mid 1960s.

  • @lukechristmas3951
    @lukechristmas3951 7 місяців тому +1

    2-8-0s will always be my Number 1 pick of wheel configuration for steam engines and the WD Austerities are no different to me. I agree, I think it is absolutely terrible that only one of the 2-8-0s is preserved. Hopefully, the two derelict 2-10-0s in Greece will be bought and restored.

    • @alicehodges9964
      @alicehodges9964 7 місяців тому

      @@lukechristmas3951 The Steam Engines Are Awesome I Like It The Railways Are Amazing

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 7 місяців тому +1

    Wasn't Riddles the Director of Transportation Equipment at the Ministry of Supply?

  • @AnimalsVehiclesAndMore
    @AnimalsVehiclesAndMore 7 місяців тому

    I just find it very wild that, even though British Railways had a total of 733 WD Austerity 2-8-0s, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WAS SCRAPPED after they were retired in 1967. History in the Dark (who has a very big hatred for British Railways due to the immense number of bad diesel locomotives that were built for them) even loudly exclaimed "YOU HAD 733, YOU COULDN'T HAVE SAVED ONE!?!?! YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!!!" At least, we do have a single surviving WD Austerity 2-8-0, so that's something.

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 7 місяців тому

      It's not BR's fault than none of the preservationists wanted to save one. But considering the state they were in, would you want to stump up the money or would you rather get something that was in good nick and capable of operation as soon as delivered? It was only after all of these locomotives had been snapped up did attention to places like Woodham's or abroad and locomotives that would need many years to restore.

  • @6allmotivepowers363
    @6allmotivepowers363 7 місяців тому

    Since it relates to this subject, you think you might cover the Soham Rail Disaster? That story has intrigued me for years.

  • @harrisonallen651
    @harrisonallen651 7 місяців тому +3

    Aussies are an unusual nickname for Austerity Engines

    • @red5_skywalker
      @red5_skywalker 7 місяців тому +1

      I had the same thought! Logically it makes sense, but I'm so used to "Aussie" meaning Australian so it sounds weird to me.

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss 7 місяців тому

    Very cool stuff.

  • @MrNosRailway
    @MrNosRailway 6 місяців тому

    I like the one's with the taller chimneys. They look like they're wearing tophats😂

  • @autobotoctolingthomasho3362
    @autobotoctolingthomasho3362 7 місяців тому +4

    BRO IM A HONG KONG GUY , thank GOD tenders DO run on hong kong rails before, im so sick that the government's railway preservation is to just put a tank engine in a public park and never get it working

    • @eggballo4490
      @eggballo4490 7 місяців тому +2

      That little tank engine is the only Honk Kong steam engine still around. I believe the original Canton-Kowloon Railway steam engines might have been destroyed by the Japanese and I might be safe to assume that Honk Kong saw its fair share of Japanese-built steam engines in that time. But all the steam engines on the Canton-Kowloon Railway were withdrawn and scrapped by 1962.

    • @autobotoctolingthomasho3362
      @autobotoctolingthomasho3362 7 місяців тому +1

      @@eggballo4490 welp, this sucks, since the railway park only got a few coaches, the unoperational tank engine and static diesels.
      Eh, Hong Kong lacks land anyway, thanks to property companies (I hated that)

  • @dragonblaster-vu8wz
    @dragonblaster-vu8wz 7 місяців тому

    It's funny how things designed to be disposable end up lasting far longer than the things meant to last forever

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 7 місяців тому

    The picture just after the titles is of Middlesbrough station which was bombed on Monday 3rd August 1942 killing 8 railway workers (amonst whom was the fireman of the locomotive) and civilians. The train was fortunately empty this August Bank Holiday (it was moved to the last Monday in August after the war) was destined for Newcastle and was hauled by V1 class 7669. Within 33 hours full service was resumed. The arch roof was neverfully repaired and was removed in the 1950s.

  • @derailstudios
    @derailstudios 7 місяців тому

    the NS 4300 worked until the end of steam in 1958, only the 5000 were completely withdrawn in 1952

  • @nathandeal9703
    @nathandeal9703 7 місяців тому

    Fun Fact: Anyone looking for the 2-8-0 version of the Ozzie's can visit ETS trains and get it in O-gauge.

  • @SheepInACart
    @SheepInACart 5 місяців тому

    No boiler lagging? That'd make them somewhat.. interesting.. to deal with.

  • @Vallyent
    @Vallyent 7 місяців тому

    I don’t look at engines as vehicles, I look at them like there Thomas and friends characters. I could only imagine how much mental trauma and depression those engines felt seeing their siblings die 1 by 1.

    • @Mac-xix
      @Mac-xix 4 місяці тому

      Get help

  • @vickielawless
    @vickielawless 7 місяців тому +1

    No mention of the Soham explosion of June 1944, and the hero train crew who saved the town.? Loco 7337 was actually rebuilt and survived until the late 1960s.

  • @Braveplantt
    @Braveplantt 7 місяців тому

    ah yes, my favorite loco, class WD, the only express steam engine that existed at my country

  • @greycatturtle7132
    @greycatturtle7132 7 місяців тому

    Cool

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 7 місяців тому

    Battle ready locomotives

  • @someNewYorkCentralfan
    @someNewYorkCentralfan 7 місяців тому +1

    Ah yes, the wooferdonks. Easy to maintain easy to discard.

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 7 місяців тому

    One of them exploded. 😳

  • @41241ivatt
    @41241ivatt 7 місяців тому +1

    It’s Keithley not key ley

  • @BandanRRChannel
    @BandanRRChannel 7 місяців тому +1

    WOOF-A-DUNK-A WOOF-A-DUNK-A WOOF-A-DUNK-A...

  • @jamesthomas5109
    @jamesthomas5109 7 місяців тому

    Shame there weren't characters or plot lines introduced to remember these engines and their crews. 🚂

  • @FunAngelo2005
    @FunAngelo2005 7 місяців тому +1

    Man 0:20

  • @James.Cumberland
    @James.Cumberland 7 місяців тому +1

    I love your videos.
    Also Keighley is really pronounced “Keith-ly” cos English words are stupid

  • @ChristianSchmidt-c1j
    @ChristianSchmidt-c1j 7 місяців тому

    So you done the american and the british war loco's. I think it's time to go in the soviet and the germans maybe?

  • @Miguel-Thleomuy
    @Miguel-Thleomuy 7 місяців тому +2

    YonKaGor

  • @stuart8663
    @stuart8663 7 місяців тому

    BEST at X1.25 speech speed.

  • @daystatesniper01
    @daystatesniper01 7 місяців тому

    Wakefield,Normanton ,and Royston were always full of dub-dees

  • @PowerPuppet
    @PowerPuppet 7 місяців тому +2

    Yo

  • @EchtInnviertler1996
    @EchtInnviertler1996 7 місяців тому

    6 Days after Ruairidh MacVeigh.
    coincidence? i think not.