PLUMBING THREADS 101 (EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW) | GOT2LEARN
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- Опубліковано 6 січ 2021
- How, where and what different plumbing threads are used for, all in 1 video.
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DISCLAIMER: Got2Learn is NOT responsible for any damage done to a property of which the plumbing wasn't done by a professional, I do not recommend doing your own plumbing if you are unsure about what you are doing, always hire a LICENSED contractor when doing any type of plumbing so you can be covered by insurances if something does happen, these videos are for entertainment purposes only!
68 years old. Been doing my own plumbing all my life. Never knew how many little important detail I did not know till I started watching your videos. Can't thank you enough. Love from B.C.
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Great review. I am seriously forwarding this to anyone who asks me "what is NPT/NPS/M-BlahBlahBlah?" when I talk about threads.
Heheheeeee, awesome man!!! 🤗
Crush washers are also common with straight threads (oil pan).
Excellent video and your animations are always awesome. Great work!
Thank you so much John! 🤩🤩🤩
I'm an engineer and this video is extremely useful. I was trained to solve fancy equations involving fluid flow but I struggle selecting proper threaded fittings or alternate configurations where I get to pick whatever I want. The practical stuff is what I need to focus on. I don't even know how many types of threads are out there and what they're used for. I know I'm not the only one.
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It is a great service to the world to get an engineer to focus on practicality 😂
That's okay. I've worked with engineers who had zero concept of Bernoulli's Principles.
Yeah we call this *book smart, life stupid* .Which seems to be the issue with most modern day engineering.
Yeah you ain't the only one
Straight threads do require anti seize if you ever want to get it apart. Especially in a marine or corrosive environment. FYI
Not as much as tapered threads.
The real question is WHY are there so many different threads ????? Why can't all threads around the world be the same and make our lives easier ??
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That would be like putting the same tires on all vehicles.
@@bipedalbob Not even close
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Oh it is, that you can't see it demonstrates your ignorance on the topic,
And I mean that in the kindest way.
You could use some
Edgamecation.
@@bipedalbobu insulted him and don't even explain your reasoning u don't sound that smart either lol
As a plumbing teacher, I enjoy your videos and have made up many worksheets to go along with them. They work well, especially with remote learning! Thanks for doing these!
Awesome, I was hoping someone would use them for that 🤟🤟🤟
I watched a lot of videos explaining npt and nps, but none of them explained as clearly with examples as you did.
Thanks
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I have been cursing straight pipe threads since I arrived in Argentina. The most common plumbing system is polyethylene pipe with straight pipe threads. It is sort of sealed by using 10 to 20 wraps of Teflon tape. Hemp used to be used a lot but now not do much. There are also some liquid sealers but I haven't had much luck with them.
@Got2Learn YOU HAVE A FANTASTIC CHANNEL 👍👍👍 and the best tutorials with detailed instructions, and they are always so informative...
Thank you sooooo much!!!
Excellent video! Explains exactly what PTFE tape does (and doesn't do) and how each type works.
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At 2:10 you can see the Teflon tape wrapped around the threads in the WRONG direction.
Thanks to some obscure problem with the copper plumbing in my 22 year old home causing pin hole leaks and paying plumbers a lot of money to do simple repairs I've been learning more about plumber than I thought I wanted to know.
I really like your channel,
You give clear concise instruction and often include the valuable lesson on why it's done that way.
Glad to help!!!
yeah... "simple repairs" that you're spending hours researching. I bet you dont ever tell a doctor his job is simple! same concept. I spent four years getting my journeyman and it will be another 4 years to get my masters in Texas, please do not disrespect that.
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Some parts of your profession are extremely simple, some parts of every profession are simple, and you bet I tell my doctor what I think, perhaps you don't know the #2 cause of death is medical malpractice.
Whoop de do your taking all the education, hopefully you'll be good at your chosen profession, instead of the guy that just barely passed his exams, which every profession has even doctors.
@@ivideorandomstuff4591 you are disrespecting someone by denying their account of events, gaslighting their experience. Getting so defensive as soon as someone mentions a small repair...I guess returning clients are like unicorns. Hours of research which he could spend arguing and cleaning up after entitled uneducated lazy cocky hacks instead...what a fool! It's really super easy, people just don't want to mess with liquid and gaseous crap. Plumbing a whole house is still just simple repairs, you just can't imagine anything more demanding. Try getting a Masters in architecture, if you don't understand.
@@ivideorandomstuff4591 Doctors jobs are simple, we can replace those hacks with a pill dispensing machine that you input your symptoms with 99% of the time ha
Awesome! Thank you so much for the detail.
My pleasure!
Great info! Thanks!
You bet!
Thanks for the beautiful presentation
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simple and awesome explanation
Thank you 🙂
excellent video. as a retired electrician, i worked alongside plumbers, seen their work, but never fully understood why they installed the way they did.
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Great video
Very informative 👍🏼👍🏼
Glad it was helpful!!!
The ability to set playback speed to x2 was a gift straight from god.
Hello sir,
Thanks for enlightening our knowledge,I would like to know can we use teflon tape for high pressure and high temperature application?if yes which type of ptfe tape to be use???
I would be very thankfull for the information you will provide
Very informative 👌👌👌👌
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You are sharing such a wealth of information!! Thank you, my friend.
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Thank you for another excellent educational tutorial.
I learn a lot from your well produced videos.
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Good job 👍
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Tapered threads are used in high pressure applications. All fire sprinkler pipe that is threaded are tapered.
That's not high pressure.
An older female have learned how-to thanks to the sharing knowledge from these persons. I’ve become totally dependent to gauge if I can or to call them expensive professional s.
Wonderful!
I’ve been using teflon tape with the wrong premise. Thanks for correcting me. Problem is a lot of accessories with straight threads come with Teflon tape which is why I use it everywhere when plumbing. I also use alot tapering the layers. I’m guessing this is wrong? I do this so I can position fittings otherwise the tightness where it won’t leak is in the wrong position.
So when I'm at Home Depot, all straight threads will be the same, or are there different sizes? Thank you.
Home DIY went horribly wrong. Wish I'd seen your video first! Thanks for decoding the secrets of the threads.
Nice one!
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How about a video on the how's and why of the 2 different threads on angle stop valves. It seems that over the past 30 years the 1/2 compression side of the valve that attaches to a copper stub out has changed from fine threads to coarse threads
I started repair service in 1986 and discovered the same issue.
The actual compression size is 5/8 inch, but some manufacturers used a pipe thread instead of a standard compression thread resulting in the issues you noticed.
If you run into a pipe thread compression fitting, the best bet is to use a puller to remove the pipe thread compression nut and start over with a proper fine thread compression fitting.
And never use pipe dope on the threads because this will cause you to possibly over tighten and split the compression nut. In the instructions says you can you can add 1 drop of oil but when the nut becomes hand tight, only tighten the nut half turn more and stop.
I’ve seen many over tightened and split because of pipe dope on the threads.
Pretty informative and makes sense. Am I the only one that noticed the Teflon tape applied in the wrong direction?
No, that was the first thing I noticed
WHOA! great job ... you are next level with the education and production. Happy New Year!
Thanks thor, happy new year buddy!!!
Always love your videos even if I know it I still watch and usually glean something. Don't stop uploading man.
So nice of you, thank you so much brother!!!
We don't tend to use hemp in the UK anymore as it harbours bacteria, you use a wax version of it now
Interesting, thanks!
In Germany, hemp is allowed for sealing, but not for cigarettes.
Ah, yes.
The so famed German "humour"
@@Got2Learn en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Pipe
You can still use it for heating , we do in Holland
In Europe, Whitworth threads are used for plumbing. Exactly British Standard Pipe.
BSPP = parallel, BSPT = tapered.
BSP can be confused with NTP.
The flanks are 55°, not 60° as with NTP or metric threads.
There are tapered and straight threads. Straigth threads need a seal as shown.
Note a 1 inch pipe is approximately 32 millimeters in diameter, not 25.4 mm as usual.
Even if the mertical system is used in Europe, this old inch standard has remained.
I never use hemp or PTFE. Locktite 577 all the way. No leaks and joints can be separated again in the future.
@Common Sense Realist 577 doesn't harden to the best of my knowledge. Stays kinda 'goey' when I had to remove parts sealed only with this. Works perfectly even on a wet / pressurised system when in a pinch and saves you from faffing around trying to find the beginning of the thread when it's taped with PTFE which is not ideal whilst being sprayed with water at 3 bar...
Damn, I was hoping you'd cover some higher pressure and wider term range fittings like JIC/AN, O-ring boss, compression fittings, etc. I work with mostly high pressure nitrogen and medium to high pressure pressure liquid oxygen systems and am always on the lookout for good intro material to show new people. Sadly this excludes NPT and NPS as they aren't suited for cryo.
Hi, would you have any recommendations for intro material for plumbinbg of high pressure cryogenics? I had no idea NPT is not cryo rated!
threads have an inherent leakage path. the flanks do not create a seal. instead ALL theaded connections have a helical leakage path. You'll strip the threads long before you ever jam them tight enough to prevent leaks. PTFE and dope serve 2 functions. 1: prevents parts from rusting together. 2: fills/clogs the leakage path around the threads.
and #3 anti-seize
So it's the PTFE that seals tapered joints?
@@ChilledfishStick yes, it is what makes tapered, threaded joints seal.
@@theotherJarvisx51 Wrong.
@@richardhodds7812 I put lots of pipes together with just the thread cutting oil - and no leaks. If there is a small leak, just tighten some more and it stops.
I ran into a homeowners brother from far eastern Europe who said they used to fix everything with string and grease.
In the US we used graphite and string.
Hemp isn’t far off the mark.
Anything that will allow the threads to move and tighten and fill gaps might work.
Do not use ANY of these (except an anti-seize/lubricant) on straight threads that are designed to work with a gasket or a compression fitting.
Awesome as always.
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Around the 1:30 mark you show the root and crest of the threads at the same location. The root should be shown at the base of the “V” of the thread. I still enjoy your videos. Thanks for making them.
Thank you very much!!!
To add to this, crests are always at the peak, and roots in the valley, regardless of whether they are external or internal. Your illustration is not entirely correct. Flats exist on both the internal and external forms. Since NPT threads are intended for low pressure, low heat applications, the tolerances on the crests, roots, and flanks (pitch diameters) are quite liberal. When manufactured at one extreme, when the parts are assembled, the crests and roots contact each other and that is the increase in torque that you feel. Further tightening causes these areas to crush until the flanks come into contact. Theoretically, this gives you a "dryseal" fit. At the other extreme, the flanks come together first, and no amount of tightening fills the voids at the crests and roots. This is what the tape, dope, or lubricant is primarily used for. Lubricating and anti-seize are secondary benefits. Since these compounds are inherently weak, they are unacceptable for high pressure/high heat or caustic chemical applications. There are Dryseal threads for this, such as NPTF. I was on the ANSI/ASME standards committees that design and regulate these various forms. Dave
From the title, I was hoping there would be some information about thread sizes (diameter and pitch) as well.
Thank you very much for the helpful video!! Your videos are so educational!!
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Hello, I always wonder how you can keep a good seal but still position the threaded object (for example a faucet) in the right position. When you screw it very tight, the faucet may end up on its head, so unscrew it a bit, but that does losen the seal doesn’t it. Thats why hemp is good, it swells up, but the other solutions don’t, so i am confused.
You tighten until there's one full turn left and use that turn to position accordingly
I’m a retired machinist I used to make all these treads all the time all different sizes up to 4 inches stainless steel.
That's crazy man musta been fun 🤟
Lots of fun stuff.
I bet 👍
Great video! I am looking to make instructional videos for medium voltage cable splicing. I teach in an apprenticeship program. What program do you use to animate and make your videos?
Thank you so much!! I have an animator do my work 👍
Learning from your channel everyday. Thanks. From a starting plumber
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Lots of great info! Thanks for posting
Thanks man!!! 🙏
Amazing animations! Very pro. Thanks
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Hi, I have a fitting , its a PVC union and its not threaded the entire way to match what I have to put it on. Can I put a thick washer into the void and just go with it? Any ideas would be helpful
Every time I think I know what's what, you add a new video and I feel even stupider. Keep it up because the stupider you make me feel the more I earn. Thank you!
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I used NPT female threaded shark bit fittings to repair the leak on top of my water heater. I believe they are tapered thread (bought at Lowe's). If I continue tightening them will they eventually stop the "seeping" leak or will they break?
Might break, better undo it and inspect, might already be cracked.
Very informative and excellently presented.
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Here's a Idea for a video and a question. I was sitting here thinking for pvc, pex, and copper pipes, there's alot of screw in pieces now.. So what if someone used Taps and Dies to create their own threads and do their whole pipe system that way rather than soldering, glueing, or crimping? It would be easy to replace a piece ( i mean pex already is easy but gets costly when you need a bunch of fittings.) I would assume thought you have to use NPT, as NPS you would have a hard time figuring out had to add a O ring to pipes especially if your not one of those people that know everything about all things tool and creation wise. It would be interesting and it seems like it would be cheaper than any of the already existing methods.
Well Well Well!!! you show the correct way to use PTFE in this video but still want people to watch the other one. You emphasize that is a Lubricant well said. As to you saying parallel threads not as good as tapered, if you know your trade there are no problems. I would like to know what qualifications you have to be able to teach, after all my years of experience, I would not say I have the correct ones but I do wonder about yours.
Thanks Rich!
What about threads for steam? I have old piping and several leaks to fix in threaded connections once heating season is done. Should I use brush on stuff from the hardware store or is there a secret for threads with steam?
You can use pink teflon no problem.
Good stuff as usual keep it up bro
Thank you so much 🙏
Great animation ....
Very informative. I was able to do my own plumbing because of your tips...I save $$$
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Very informative, and easy to follow
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Done and done, very great content btw, thx
Thank you so much, it means a lot to me!!!
Great video... but NPT stands for both “National Pipe Thread” and “National Pipe Taper”? Who thought that up???
Heheee, let's not get into that 😉
Please let me know if you’ve ever had to try and convince someone that, NPT and HPT are different? I went round and round with a man once trying to explain it to him, who asked me if they were the same, I told him no, but he didn’t believe me, a day later we ran into each other again and he said you were right. I said Mr. I wouldn’t steer you wrong, I was just trying to help you out.
Great video as always 👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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I really do appreciate the amount of knowledge you share with us mon ami. Happy new year.
🙏🙏🙏 you too vip!!!
@@Got2Learn merci 🍻
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I am a retired machinist that cut all kinds of threads on a lathe - Acme, left hand, double lead etc. Now as a handyman plumber I find these video informative. You might have mentioned that sometimes the taper and strait are used together. EXAMPLE: Flexible water heater connectors they are straight pipe female with a rubber seal. They are coupled to a tapered thread male nipple on the water heater. Correct?
Thanks! The straight threads are connected to straight threads with an oring, gasket or flared connection, and tapered just by friction.
Those are straight threads?
very good.that explains,why electrical pvc fittings,differ fron those meant for plumbing....
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So the oil drain plug at the bottom of a sump is likely to be straight thread with a gasket?
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@@Got2Learn cool. Ta.
Dont worry about the NPT or NPS thing. Plumbing epoxy makes it all seal perfectly every time.
What? No.
@@guymross I think sarcasm.
Speaking of pipe dope and PTFE, I’ve heard they can be used together, but in what order?
Do you prefer one over the other on pipe threads?
The way I've always seen it done was tape Will go on first dope on top I think I would have trouble putting the tape over the dope
Tape the male, dope the female.
Dope tape dope. always on male end.
@@scottsatterthwaite4073 you aren’t supposed to ever dope the female threads on any threaded application
@@ProLomxnbeater I'm 58 and have been doing it my way most of those years with great success. The reason "they" say not to do that is because it will force a little pipe dope beyond the threads into the pipe. But you are supposed to flush the lines anyway.
Good job, from New Mexico
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So, do garden hoses fit onto laundry hose faucets and vice versa?
Yes!
All fire sprinkler joints in Australia are sealed with hemp and soap. We havent caught up to the rest of the world yet. But the hemp works, is cheap and rarely leaks
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wow. what happens if the joint gets hot?? then it's supposed to let water leak anyway?
@@wim0104 the sprinklers would put out the fire way before the joint ever gets hot
That is the same in many parts of the world as hemp has different properties that make it a better sealant than PTFE-tape for some applications. Another example would be gas-pipes: In some countries (and parts of the US) it is not allowed to use PTFE-tape to seal the gas-pipes of residential buildings.
Great video! If I may add, we call straight threads a running thread. They are a result of letting the pipe die run down the length of a pipe. ..of course, the leading few threads will be tapered so typically, you would run it on a piece of pipe longer than you need and cut off the tapered threads. Also, if you've ever bought some of that seemingly all thread tubing thats used in lamps and such. ..its basically threaded conduit. I've used it in 3/8" and 1/2" diameters but that's not what they are. You'll never get a nut with NC or NF threads to screw onto them because they're actually 1/8 and 1/4 (respectively) pipe threads. ..and who came up with the sizing on pipe threads? ..maybe there's a schedule of pipe where it all makes sense.
Oh, ..and don't forget about the British pipe size. If you want to pipe any high pressure air, like from a SCUBA or SCBA tank to use to charge a paintball marker or a PCP air rifle, those fittings are usually in British pipe sizes. They're the same goofy diameters as NPT but the threads are slightly off.
Good info, thanks!!! 🙏
Definitely harder to find NPS. Anyone know where I can purchase a NPS (NPSM) 1" Female x 1" Sweat fittings? Installing a Phyn flow sensor.
I use a lot of schedule 80 barbed fittings with 1 side male thread usually 1.5" and 2" size. Sometimes but not always the fitting will say right on it " USE NO PIPE DOPE". Can you explain this a bit more. I am not sure what to do here so I just tape it. An example would be a 2" barbed fitting threading into a 2" galvanized Tee. Thank you so much for your enlightenment!!!
They most probably mean to not apply dope on the barbed side.
@@Got2Learn Wow...I would never think to do that. I guess they have to idiot proof everything these days
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Thanks for the videos!
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For sure, will do.
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We use loctite pipe thread in the uk
Industry standard unless they are cheap
Hi, great video BUT 2:03- after those great videos that You made we already know, that the thread is taping in wrong side :D
Yes, that was my mistake explaining it to my animation guy, my bad...good eye Pawel ;)
@@Got2Learn oh, stop it, i start to blush ;) i can't wait to see next video, cheers!
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For smaller or wider teeth, what are their name n purpose?
Nice video! ... do you think you can do a video on pex a and pex b along with fittings . Also can I use fitting for pex a only and put on a pex b pipe ?
Thanks!
I think PEX-a pipe can be use with PEX-b fitiings without problems but maybe there will be warranty issues, not sure.
Leaking threads on a cabin build... Tape goop tight af loose. shark bite to pex pex is great. Just get a slow by persistent water bubble that grows untill it drips.
little tape lots of tape not too tight. super tight.
Are NPS threads the same as electrical rigid conduit threads? Seems like no one can tell me what
rigid conduit threads are.
Personally, I don't know...but maybe someone here boes as a lot are electricians, just give it some time ;)
when threading rigid conduit you can use a plumbers die, just thread back far enough to accomondate locknuts & bushings.
Whats the make up on threaded gas pipe fittings? i'm having a hard time researching the answer
What exactly are you referring to with make up?
@@Got2Learn the distance that the threads go into the fitting. like if I had a face to face measurement from one 90 to another 90, how much would i have to add to account for the pipe going into the fittings
That changes with each size but it's pretty much always 1/2"
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Good explanation...
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1:50 between the root and the crest is always space - wouldn't that create a small leak? I guess that's what the PTFE tape is for? I also have a hard time believing that PTFE tape allows you to seat it deeper, as it adds a lot of volume so then you can do less rotations until it's seated. Oil would be an actual lubricant.
Can you bend a jump with tube iron and show cat back?
Question @G2L. How long do you have to be an apprentice plumber in Canada before you become a journeyman and also at what point can you take the red seal exam?
4 years, after 4 years, you can do your exam.
Only 30 seconds in and clicking the tjumbs up because i know it's going to be good
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Even this video confuses NPT as National Pipe Tread vs National Pipe Taper. also shows straight fitting with a washer while describing it as tapered.
Bravo!! Very informative.
Do you have any content regarding the Vacuum Relief Valve on residential hot water tanks?? I just came across one that was weeping from the slot in the valve and I had some trouble trying to get information...
Thank you so much!
Unfortunately, I do not, not yet 😩
Why not just replace the valve and move on?
Michael Lewis Honestly, I didn't know what the weeping fitting was on the gas fired hot water tank!! At my parent's property.
Turns out I never had one on the hot water tank (electric) at my house which lead to my confusion. I'll need to address this on my tank.
@@MarioDallaRiva gotcha. They are super cheap and easy to replace so it seems like a non issue.
@@michaellewis6569 Thanks, Michael! Yeah, they’re around $20 here in Canada.
Ok how do you connect pictures schedule 40 to galvanized pipe with threads?
Pictures?
Do you mean fixtures?
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Make sure the PVC male adapter is schedule 80. Screw it into a fitting or coupling using a bit of Teflon tape. If you are careful, you can also use a bit of pipe dope as well
Or just use dope.
Pueden traducirlo a español porfavor! 🤗
NPT stands for National Pipe Thread, or for National Pipe Taper, or for Nuke Plumbers Tohell.
Why doesn't a male 3/4inch garden hose screw on to a 3/4 inch brass female ball valve
The combination only screws on one 3ed of a turn by hand
Like, from 12 o'clock to 4 o'clock
So there was a gas leak in my grandma's attic. The handyman who installed the furnace used white Teflon tape on the flare threads. I ended up replacing the connector and installing a drip leg.
While an electrican apprentice a prima donna know it all plumber asked to borrow the electric shop 3/4" stock & die to thread some pipe for a steam job. I tried to explain that they were not tapered threads but he he said that all stock & dies are the same. Mentioned it to shop foreman but he said no.problem. Well he first blamed an open can of pipe dope for his leaks then bad pipe. Foreman broke his balls and told him not to question the kid electrical apprentice.
What about fip and mip
I always use both
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@@Got2Learn Hey man. Here in ireland we use alot of compression and soldering fittings. I once sen a compression fitting with no olive and it still made a watertight joint.
Fucking weird!
Love the tips and tricks of your videos and keep em coming. 👍 Also we mostly bend copper tube to make everything flow to wherever as easy as possible. I have to admit I think it looks and works better.... personally for me that is.
@@fionnan2811 awesome, thank you so much!!!
@@Got2Learn Neat trick also. If you were short an o-ring you could use bubble gum as a seal and I've tested it to 10,000psi with hydraulic pressure.
Love to see you incorporate that into your videos. If you ever do let me know as I'm out plumbing and might not see the video.
Just a tip and trick.
Works for water also.
Used it on a machine one day as a last resort and it worked.
I thought it was a one off but tried again and got the same result in different fluids and air.
You should send me your address so I can send you a pipeslice as its in imperial here in ireland also. They are very fast for cutting copper and there is a different wheel for stainless steel but I can't afford to send both. But I think you will be very surprised how fast it will cut hard copper and soft copper.👍 And u can use my name and it will benefit me for work here in the countryside.
Just let me know as I have one here that I can post today!