MaxPax is my favorite player, ever since I was watching the Beasty stream where he got "maxpaxed." Kid was 14 at the time, and didn't even have an email account to send Beasty replays. He's this bizarre mystery man, and somehow one of the most skilled players of all time. It's been a wild ride.
My impression is that very fast players concentrate on paring down the amount of time and attention that they dedicate to each multi-pronged attack to the barest minimum possible and let the unit AI handle the rest, which means that those attacks are a bit less effective than an attack which is micro-ed, but their multi-pronged nature can put some stress and pressure onto the opponent which is a good trade-off from more of a psychology standpoint. Florencio annoys opponents with unit choices and assorted cheese, these players annoy opponents by forcing them to split their attention and disrupting their own plans.
Really enjoyed this cast, would love to see more PiG!, he's so fast it's hard to keep up some times. Regarding the sound I didn't find the sound to be too much in the second match, but maybe a tiny bit distracting at times because I would try to make out what he was saying, but not really make out what he said because of sound levels/you would summarize it either way. In the end it didn't make a huge difference. Really enjoyed the content/cast as usual!
Out of all of the Pro POV's you've shown this might be the only one that hasn't given me a small brain bleed trying to pay attention to what he's doing.
StarCraft pro players are just in other lvl then rest of eSport pro players. Its crazy the speed of AMP , the brain work ,decision making process.. If you watch FPS games, or Mortal Combat, Dota/LOL/HOTS the gameplay its more simple. The marine splits of pro terrans or Jaedong muta harass is just out of mind . THX for video
I’ve also been most excited to watch maxpax too for last year or so. Watching TvZ all the time in the big tournaments , need a bit of change the last patch good for toss too 👍
When you talk about habits that stick. In my young day I started out with playing Quake 1. The default on Quake 1 with mouse was invert mouse. I never shook this and have played my entire lanparty and clanbase career in Unreal Tournament and Unreal Tournament 2004 with invert mouse. Mouse acceleration started with windows xp and yes it was and still is horrible.
SC2 in game interface seriously needs some minor upgrade to show more infos. Players should have caster UI, like showing upgrade completing countdown, workers count, workers kills, units kills etc.
@Hosenbivad most pros use a variation of the Core made way back by in the day by a guy named Jakatak. Grid tends to be easier to learn but isn't as efficient as others.
i've never had mouse acceleration on so idk what it is supposed to do nor do i see how it is supposed to help or potentially hurt RTS players as you say it does.
A simple explanation is that if you move your mouse from one side of the desk to the other quickly, your cursor will go further than if you moved the mouse slowly. The speed you move the mouse helps dictate the cursor distance. It's considered bad because this creates inconsistency with your aiming and cursor placement. With no acceleration, your cursor always lands in the same place on screen, regardless of speed. This is a really good thing when you're playing at the top level of games.
@PiG MaxPax is extraordinary, however, I am not sure if I would say "best protoss" or anything in that direction. He is the best in harassment, top-tier in control/micro, and astonishing in reactionary play, like game reading w.r.t. how & when to attack and especially end a game. However, I think in defense and especially macro as well as overall solid gameplay no one is better than Showtime (I don't mean solid in terms of Showtime never makes mistakes, obviously that is not true, I mean that in terms of like his favorite player Rain, he is the best when it comes to solid Protoss gameplay).
So windows mouse accel is awful, but some fps players are trying to use mouse accel. This is because windows mouse accel is really unpredictable, and all fps players who use mouse accel are using a 3rd program. If youd like more info optimum had a video on the subject
Yes I'm sure the professional gamer had no idea that fps is important. I really don't believe you telling him about this was anything new. He probably had his graphics high for the viewers on his stream.
There were some people assuming he doesn't play on live events because he is using cheats 😂 Hopefully this shuts them down for good. Considering how many eyes were on his replays it would have been impossible anyway.
Turning graphics down in SC2 is nonsense these days. 5+ years ago? Yes but with like a 4070 or 4080 and a last gen or current gen Ryzen and you're running such high FPS it doesn't matter. Ultra will run just as well as low/medium. Once you have over 144fps it really doesn't matter.
Omg top player you have to tell him to lower his graphics settings....WTF is this? Master are gold player just being able to reproduce strategy's always said that ... For mouse acceleration I am totally with him. I Play with mouse acceleration could not turn it down and I play straight on my desktop no mouse pad. I tried but it makes controls so slow
its 100% worse, its terrible in fps games, it essentially means your mouse doesnt run on a linear curve, which means all your movements are all some form of a exponential curve for speed which means every action your rapid mouse flicks will cause complete inconsistency in distance traveled almost NO ONE in cs plays with it at pro level and the ones who do are legit what mr Pig said, fools who will not take the time to learn the proper way and are comfortable with a sub optimal setup. Any professional coach in a physical sport would never let you play with sub optimal form, they will retrain you even if you are already good with bad form. Technique always gets results.
mouse acceleration is the absolute fucking dumbest setting ever. I don't know why it ever existed, I don't know what scenario it has a supreme purpose. It's flat out fucking stupid. Learning to play with it sounds like a complete nightmare having the mouse do whatever it wants instead of something 1:1 to your movement. There's no argument for it but I'm open to hearing.
My working theory is that He is actually She. EDIT: It seems that's Max's voice in the 2nd game, which definitely sounds masculine... so I guess I'm wrong! Hmmm, now I'm even more curious about the secretive nature...
It's probably something simple. Like has high anxiety when in rooms with large amounts of people. Or has anxiety when he is the focus of attention. Kinda defeats the purpose of going to a LAN if you know you can't perform your best due to the stress.
Obviously I don't think he is AI. But I have met one individual who plays computer games, watches youtube videos, has accounts on social media, communicates on every level like a normal human being, even able to use calls (but without speaking). Presented as a 26 years woman she replies very long messages to my messages in 0,5 seconds. Normal human would write it for at least 20 seconds. And overall acting extremely weird, being very politically correct, perfect punctuation or however it's spelled, perfect english. All of it is possible of course. But writing 50 words in 0,5 second is not. There is some super advanced AI unleashed on the internet.
The Title is right: MaxPax is the best Protoss, currently. her0? Nah. I had expectation when he came back from military but it shows that he's all was just, overhyped and overrated.
MaxPax is my favorite player, ever since I was watching the Beasty stream where he got "maxpaxed." Kid was 14 at the time, and didn't even have an email account to send Beasty replays. He's this bizarre mystery man, and somehow one of the most skilled players of all time. It's been a wild ride.
I know this a MaxPax vid. But this 15:05 move by reynor was just so sick. Hooking the colossos into their own nova is just *chef's kiss .
daaamn I missed this, thank you!
same
Wow this kid is fast.
This is a great video format for you PiG, you're a fast talker casting fast POV matches. Hope to see more!
Thanks for this video of Maxy Paxy's gameplay and twitch channel plug, PiG ! ♥ Just followed him great to see there's at least one vod on it :)
awesome cast and it was really nice of you to reach maxpax
My impression is that very fast players concentrate on paring down the amount of time and attention that they dedicate to each multi-pronged attack to the barest minimum possible and let the unit AI handle the rest, which means that those attacks are a bit less effective than an attack which is micro-ed, but their multi-pronged nature can put some stress and pressure onto the opponent which is a good trade-off from more of a psychology standpoint.
Florencio annoys opponents with unit choices and assorted cheese, these players annoy opponents by forcing them to split their attention and disrupting their own plans.
I'm working on my mechanics, I'm working on improving both areas of play. Cheers!
MaxPax has some impressive micro and multi-tasking skills. Man, if only I could be 1/10 as good as that...
Beautiful, FP POV is my lifelong favorite! Especially from such an enigmatic player like MaxPax
i like how clem and maxpax duke it out in speed. those games are one of the best.
I’m a simple man. I watch a cutting-edge rts-playing artificial intelligence, I click
It's "I see", not "I watch". You watch it after you click on the link and open the video.
Ackchyually.
@@KulaGGin ya i realized that after and left it cos i find it funny
Love this content, some seriously good insights into our man MaxPax.
Really enjoyed this cast, would love to see more PiG!, he's so fast it's hard to keep up some times. Regarding the sound I didn't find the sound to be too much in the second match, but maybe a tiny bit distracting at times because I would try to make out what he was saying, but not really make out what he said because of sound levels/you would summarize it either way. In the end it didn't make a huge difference. Really enjoyed the content/cast as usual!
16:03 Base Pylon Gas Gas 🤌🏻
That was clean.
Thank you for your content Pig! so much fun!
Out of all of the Pro POV's you've shown this might be the only one that hasn't given me a small brain bleed trying to pay attention to what he's doing.
yah, he doesn't constantly switching views like others did, lots of them tab 2,3,4, in 1sec.
How weird from a protozs player as if the race was easier 😂😂
@@rouxrouxcleaverblanca1923Which is why all the top pros are Protoss? P might be easier at certain levels, but for a top 10 GM it definitely isn't.
Reallly? I just watched Byuns pov and he was a little slower, I haven’t watched serial or Clem pov yet though
StarCraft pro players are just in other lvl then rest of eSport pro players. Its crazy the speed of AMP , the brain work ,decision making process.. If you watch FPS games, or Mortal Combat, Dota/LOL/HOTS the gameplay its more simple. The marine splits of pro terrans or Jaedong muta harass is just out of mind . THX for video
always glad to see these kind of insame first person games!
Holy crap man the speed and precision of his play is absolutely insane
wow this POV is insane, it really is a completely different game
I don't even play this well in my dreams. Thank you for sharing this!
Great cast 👏
I need more maxpax pov pig
More MaxPax PvZ against Reynor please, and keep the sound on!
The speed and precision withthe mouse is insane
That's right maxpax. NEXUS hot keyed to #3. Don't know how folks don't understand how top tier this is. OH WELL!
I used to be a base hotkey 3, matured to a base hotkey 4
@@auag6284 I like hotkey 3 cause building probes is set to E. So the transition is just naturally smooth.
@@orangepearlf40 that’s a good point! I use grid so my fingers set up nicely.
what if im a base hotkey 5 ?
@anaskun3645 Any hotkey that cause extraneous effort and movement, in my opinion, is an inefficient setup and may affect your performance.
I’ve also been most excited to watch maxpax too for last year or so. Watching TvZ all the time in the big tournaments , need a bit of change the last patch good for toss too 👍
When you talk about habits that stick. In my young day I started out with playing Quake 1. The default on Quake 1 with mouse was invert mouse. I never shook this and have played my entire lanparty and clanbase career in Unreal Tournament and Unreal Tournament 2004 with invert mouse. Mouse acceleration started with windows xp and yes it was and still is horrible.
SC2 in game interface seriously needs some minor upgrade to show more infos.
Players should have caster UI, like showing upgrade completing countdown, workers count, workers kills, units kills etc.
MaxPax plays faster than my life flashes before my eyes...
that was so cool to watch!
love this, great video, more like it please
There's programs that let you customize the mouse acceleration curve. Might be useful for him.
"Clem's hard to play against."
I'd say that's a fair statement.
Interesting. Despite everyone saying that grid sucks, even with Pig in the way, you can still see that Maxpax uses it.
Wait really, i thought grid was the norm, i use it myself. What does pig recommend?
@Hosenbivad most pros use a variation of the Core made way back by in the day by a guy named Jakatak. Grid tends to be easier to learn but isn't as efficient as others.
MaxPax rules.
Zest is back?
This is peak starcraft
beautiful green color, tanks
i've never had mouse acceleration on so idk what it is supposed to do
nor do i see how it is supposed to help or potentially hurt RTS players
as you say it does.
What’s mouse acceleration? Why do you hate it?
A simple explanation is that if you move your mouse from one side of the desk to the other quickly, your cursor will go further than if you moved the mouse slowly. The speed you move the mouse helps dictate the cursor distance.
It's considered bad because this creates inconsistency with your aiming and cursor placement. With no acceleration, your cursor always lands in the same place on screen, regardless of speed. This is a really good thing when you're playing at the top level of games.
Is pig going to finish the protoss B2GM series ?
i feel maxpax is the serral for protoss lol
nice shirt bro!
I don't see maxpax's twitch link in the descrption guys
Maxpax is the best protoss player I've ever seen. The fact that this guy can keep up with Serral, Raynor and Clem says it all.
"Clem is hard to play against guys" - PiG
he probably likes Rain style which is very clean and macro oriented.
When I watch serial, maxpax and hero play fppov it’s a different level. Not sure about dark.
that was mint🥝
Maxpax is super fast in terms of multi tasking, but I swear just on pure vomit-inducing crazy fast camera movement nobody beats Mana.
@PiG MaxPax is extraordinary, however, I am not sure if I would say "best protoss" or anything in that direction. He is the best in harassment, top-tier in control/micro, and astonishing in reactionary play, like game reading w.r.t. how & when to attack and especially end a game. However, I think in defense and especially macro as well as overall solid gameplay no one is better than Showtime (I don't mean solid in terms of Showtime never makes mistakes, obviously that is not true, I mean that in terms of like his favorite player Rain, he is the best when it comes to solid Protoss gameplay).
So windows mouse accel is awful, but some fps players are trying to use mouse accel. This is because windows mouse accel is really unpredictable, and all fps players who use mouse accel are using a 3rd program. If youd like more info optimum had a video on the subject
Mad skillz
All the settings changes PiG tried to turn him into MinPax
I couldn't play this well with a neural link lol
Without tournament everyone will suspect something fishy.
No need to cast any terran maxpax haha I just want to see more toss
what the hell is mouse acceleration lol
default setting in windows mouse settings called "increase pointer precision" - ironically it does the opposite of what it says lol
Damn he removed his videos again.
MaxPax #1
Not okay that he doesn't show up to tournaments
I prefer you commentating just the gameplay without the sound of the players in de background
appreciate the feedback
Yes I'm sure the professional gamer had no idea that fps is important. I really don't believe you telling him about this was anything new.
He probably had his graphics high for the viewers on his stream.
There were some people assuming he doesn't play on live events because he is using cheats 😂
Hopefully this shuts them down for good. Considering how many eyes were on his replays it would have been impossible anyway.
Ppl who say that, doesnt know what theyre talking abour
I have no doubt about it, definitely human .................................................. made AI.
why do I feel like pro players play more on smurf accounts then their real.
Only the ones that do "youtube challenges". There are some that don't find the point at all to play against weaker opponents, like MaxPax or Serral.
Bro maxpax lost 4-2 against serral...i love maxpax..but serral is the GOAT
engagement
Maxpax is AI
The curse of pro player having to play game with shit graphics setting to avoid fps drop and lag
Turning graphics down in SC2 is nonsense these days. 5+ years ago? Yes but with like a 4070 or 4080 and a last gen or current gen Ryzen and you're running such high FPS it doesn't matter. Ultra will run just as well as low/medium. Once you have over 144fps it really doesn't matter.
Omg top player you have to tell him to lower his graphics settings....WTF is this? Master are gold player just being able to reproduce strategy's always said that ...
For mouse acceleration I am totally with him. I Play with mouse acceleration could not turn it down and I play straight on my desktop no mouse pad. I tried but it makes controls so slow
its 100% worse, its terrible in fps games, it essentially means your mouse doesnt run on a linear curve, which means all your movements are all some form of a exponential curve for speed which means every action your rapid mouse flicks will cause complete inconsistency in distance traveled
almost NO ONE in cs plays with it at pro level and the ones who do are legit what mr Pig said, fools who will not take the time to learn the proper way and are comfortable with a sub optimal setup.
Any professional coach in a physical sport would never let you play with sub optimal form, they will retrain you even if you are already good with bad form. Technique always gets results.
mouse acceleration is the absolute fucking dumbest setting ever. I don't know why it ever existed, I don't know what scenario it has a supreme purpose. It's flat out fucking stupid. Learning to play with it sounds like a complete nightmare having the mouse do whatever it wants instead of something 1:1 to your movement. There's no argument for it but I'm open to hearing.
My working theory is that He is actually She.
EDIT: It seems that's Max's voice in the 2nd game, which definitely sounds masculine... so I guess I'm wrong! Hmmm, now I'm even more curious about the secretive nature...
It's probably something simple. Like has high anxiety when in rooms with large amounts of people. Or has anxiety when he is the focus of attention. Kinda defeats the purpose of going to a LAN if you know you can't perform your best due to the stress.
Obviously I don't think he is AI. But I have met one individual who plays computer games, watches youtube videos, has accounts on social media, communicates on every level like a normal human being, even able to use calls (but without speaking). Presented as a 26 years woman she replies very long messages to my messages in 0,5 seconds. Normal human would write it for at least 20 seconds. And overall acting extremely weird, being very politically correct, perfect punctuation or however it's spelled, perfect english. All of it is possible of course. But writing 50 words in 0,5 second is not. There is some super advanced AI unleashed on the internet.
WTF did I just watch?
nothing like dudes selling false hype on the internet while destroying the competitive scene. patch by patch
Protoss fastest
Maxpax is not the best Protoss player in the world if he hasn’t won anything prestigious
The Title is right: MaxPax is the best Protoss, currently. her0? Nah. I had expectation when he came back from military but it shows that he's all was just, overhyped and overrated.
This is how every game feels like in silver league hahahaha
Until he plays an offline event. Don’t call him the best Protoss