How Samurai Women Lost Their Rights | History of Japan 94
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In the Kamakura Period, the Japanese massively changed their family and societal structure. One of the consequences was an erosion of women’s property rights.
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00:00 A hard choice
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Would you rather be given land or money?
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Give me land, ill make money from it 💰
@@oddlyw1cked938 Smart!
Land. inflation makes land gain/retain value. Money becomes worthless with inflation.
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It depends on where you are and when. In most Western nations, good investments are preferable.
"If you have siblings, you already suspected [that parents have favorites]." And if your parents told you that they had no favorites, it was because someone else was their favorite.
lol yes, for Asian parents, your cousin is their favorite.
one time my mom admitted their favourite was my little brother 💀
@@Linfamy His name is Ling Ling. He practised violin for 40 hours a day and won awards before he could walk, became a doctor at 16 and an engineer at 18.
You’ll never be as good as Ling ling
You cured cancer? Well Ling Ling just got married and gave his mom a grandson. She must be so happy...
It's quite funny how the "we ran out of swamps to drain, forests to burn down and barbarians to kill, now the plots of land get smaller with every generation" issue naturally appeared in basically every agrarian society sooner or later. And someone (or everyone) naturally always got the short end of the stick.
You should see how it was done in ancient Tsarist Russia…
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In Tsarist Russia, land divides you?
@@Alias_Anybody ROFLMAO!!1!
*Lebensraum propaganda intensifies*
In Europe it also lead to women losing rights and status I think
There’s actually a theory that these changes in inheritance and emphasis on households over clans were the reason for sexual attitudes becoming noticeably more conservative in the Kamakura period. In the earlier Heian period, succumbing to passion and having sex out of wedlock tickled the melodramatic, romantic sensibilities of the era, but when that started leading to convoluted family trees and bitter inheritance battles, folks suddenly turned prudish.
Where did you read that one?
It's almost as if promiscuity has a negative impact on society...
@@saymyname2417 they didn’t really care before it lead to inheritance disputes…
@@saymyname2417it’s almost as if attitudes towards promiscuity changed between the Heian and Kamakura periods as a result of complex historical processes and you completely missed the point.
@@thomaslai1381 - I am perfectly aware of the changes in Yamato society from Heian period into and during the first shogunate. And I stated the influence of Buddhism and Confucianism, but maybe not in this thread.
Still, promiscuity DID HAVE an effect at least on upper class families (see the oc) and that too, helped to bring change along. Isn't that obvious?!
Interesting, people often forget things like women's right get better and worse through out history, so many folks act like is just a linear progression getting better through time.
Excellent point
I would say Marx popularized this idea that history has linear progression, the past always being worse. Any person with history knowledge knows that is not how it works, the Roman empire being peak exemple of the constant cycle of great emperors being followed by absolute corrupt POS until the empire collapsed.
That’s why women need to fight hard to keep our rights now.
In other words, NEVER move into someone else's home. You keep YOUR OWN HOME and have YOUR NAME on the lease at all times.
You know, from reading Heian period literature it's clear that their society was anything but egalitarian, but directly comparing it to late Kamakura society makes it seem like a veritable feminist paradise. . . Sheesh
I’m still at the beginning of the video, but if the fates of the Second and Third Princesses from the Tale of Genji are anything to go by, women still had it rough in Heian society; I can’t even bring myself to finish reading the Tale of Genji because of what happened to those two hapless ladies.
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Sad thing is when you're an only child and you're still not the favorite child 😅
Is it the dog? 😂
@ThatNaelis When your parents' fav child is not the only child they have, instead it's the dog so the dog gets the inheritance 💀
"Hmm, seems like somebody is in need of living space. Bummer. Why don't we try to --"
"Did somebody say 'let's commit war crimes?!'"
Wow women losing rights I'm so surpised
Not surprised samurai women were screwed over. It’s par for the course for world history in general
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Cool video and fun contemporary humour that makes me LOL ... LIKED as always
To be divorced and homeless but free or married and abused but not homeless or starving
Not that it was always either or...
agreed,men should not marry women, there are protection for men in marriage
Always awesome to see a new upload from you buddy
Glad you enjoy the videos :)
I don't think I've ever been this early lol
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Yay this series is back!
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A continuation of the History of Japan-series!?
Finally!
I like the other videos, sure, they're great, but... I've wanted to see the series continue, for ages.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Really goes to show how the war for real estate in Yakuza 0 came to be. Every little patch of land makes all the difference.
Have to go to each little piece and propose with a briefcase of cash.
3:52 Good thing Hojo Rinkumasa was there to defend -Hyrule- Japan.
2:30 caught me off guard
No way! This is insanely close to what Friedrich Engels proposed in "the origin of the family, of private property and of the state". He was honestly trying to make logical deductions and speculations a lot of the time because he was limited by the anthropology of his time. It amazes me how close his findings were to modern research. Not everything is great in that book and it is not to be read a pure fact but it still holds up as a way of analyzing man's and especially women's past.
What a thin slice of land 🤣 thank you for the new video in such a short amount of time!!!
Love the thumbnail!
2:14 though women could have businesses like inns, taverns breweries, pastry shops... and thus could earn enough to gain property
@4:45 We have a winner in the "Goofiest Horse in a Supporting Role in a Painting" award!
(Ridden by someone who is, as far as I can determine, "the priest Kansuke Yamamori.")
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always remember to hold onto those rights, ladies!!!
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@@user-fl5mq9kp7g"Cheap" Not sure about that...
@@user-fl5mq9kp7gCheap? In this economy, I think not. Lol 😂
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Once again, war wrecks society. : (
The march to 100 episodes is back on!
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So they weren't lost, they were taken
That's... a lot more complicated than I expected, actually. Like, for them to be taken, someone (which includes groups and institutions) had to actively take them away. Who do you think took these rights away?
@@marcosalmeida3947 Samurai institution. Men. War culture.
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3:55 All I see is a historic Hyrule battle.
Wait...were they not eating the Sakurako treats?
i think now i've seen all of your videos lol
That's a lot of videos o.o
Please make a video about meido place ( the way to hell in which you have to go through 7 trials).
Well that’s sad and unfair.
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I like to think the balloons in the thumbnail end up in Pennywises gloved hand
So, what if there weren’t any sons in the family? Did the inheritance go to eldest daughter?
Depends on when; but the rather obvious go-to strategy: adopt the husband of your daughter. Done.
It's still a thing in Japan for families to adopt a husband for their daughters if they have an inheritance or business they want to keep in the family. And yes, in the event of divorce, this means the adopted husband keeps said family inheritance or business or whatever unless there's a contract
Also in Japan, there is no joining families. Couples must decide who gives up their (legal) family. A spouse is literally removed from their original family register and put on their spouse's register. If a wife takes the husband's name, she is part of his family and no longer (legally) part of hers. If a husband takes the wife's name, he is no longer (legally) a member of his family.
@@user-nn1nu2qz9c so no visits or anything?
Gavelkind is just a terrible idea in medieval times. I can confirm it from playing Crusader Kings 2+3.
Primogeniture is such a huge upgrade.
IRL introducing Primogeniture was enough to gain the moniker "the Wise".
Gavelkind was perfect idea for taking care of all your kids by giving them piece of land that serves as source of wealth in agrarian society.
We just think it's weird, because we in moderntimes see that realm as abstracted "(nation) state" instead of someone's literal personal possessions.
@@GeneralCalculus Right until your children fight each other to have usable land or get invaded by someone that didn't do that.
See: Charlemagne.
What were all those anime?
Progress isn't linear. We should always keep that in mind. We can still lose whatever we have accomplished.
Good vid [love you too 😂]
Respect women and their rights
Rights come with responsibilities that women hate.
Let stop talking about their right and start talking about their wrong
@@renowinter8022I support women’s rights but more important I support women’s wrongs. Get it queen
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The thumbnail almost looked like it said "Samur ai" to me, and now I'm imagining a program called "SamurAI" auto-generating and ruining Anime.
I didn't know samurai women existed
Well, women from samurai families
@@LinfamyOhhh, thats cool!
You didnt know women who procreated with samurai were samiria women? Lol
Some people believe there are no samurai women, and that samurai just spring out of holes in the ground.
They don't
Women didn't even have rights until like 100 years ago and you'd think they would put a woman in an important position? lmao
So does that mean that samurai wives was allowed to leave the room without her husband's say-so before the civil war?
So, in that part about land you say that they got more aggressive because their valuables shrank down due to heavy slicing?
That really sounded shriveled up, poor guys. 🙃
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Sadly if you keep dividing up land between all children and wife, the land plots will be so small they’re worthless.
Not defending women getting nothing here, but I do see the logic in not splitting the land and only one person getting the land.
Love the video dude, always funny!
i am still very sleepy to have understand
Boy howdy, this feels topical right now.
how
@@dnidaz2553 Confucianism
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@@dnidaz2553 not you, the other comment
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Who needs land when you can marry your 3rd cousin?
Not only do you stay within your clan and keep your surname, but it's also legally, culturally and biologically just fine. It's hardly even incest.
anything further than first cousin is to far.😊
"in family we thrust"
Only families
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All of this is true.
Hello fellow kitsune
This title brought out the incels
1:12 and tge result of such cultures was they were completely conquered by others that did not do this
So fight for your rights, women. And men, note that societies are usually more equitable and peaceful the more rights women have.
More videos. And yeah I knew about the samurai ruined the women rights.
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loss of land ownership, ties with birth family and matrilineal order really turned women into prisoners
What if they had no sons?
Adopt the husband of your daughter. Voila, you have a son.
But what if they had a daughter only? Do they marry her to a man just so she can inherit the land?
Samurai Women? What are those?
Thats hot
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I rate this anime 9/10 although it was kind of sexist
Favorite child. Good luck if you were all girls. If there was one boy out of the siblings, well... obviously little Yusuke here is gonna get some land probably. But wait, war hahppened. Sorry Yusuke, but this land belongs to the guy that pillaged your village now.
Jeez, if only they had the foresight to set up communal lands for farming and feeding all of the village things really would've turned out better. Their solution is terrible in comparison.
I'm half Alaska Native and my mother's land claim was supposed to have been passed down to me but my dad went to court to take it from me when she died because he "had to get something out of the marriage" and now I just realized that my entire life my dad complained that he didn't own land and never would despite the fact that he stole my land claim from me. He is now leaving that native land claim to his new wife who has promised that land to her white cousins kids. Yet more native land being stolen by the white people
How dare you blame white people for what your NATIVE dad is allegedly doing to you? Typical of your kind, blame everything bad in your life on innocent whites who literally never did anything to you instead of your own crap people. Suck it up and eat some more fried bread and cry some more instead of bettering your life like most of y'all do. Sickening.
Im sorry that happened to you. It really shows the cultural difference between people from historic patriarchal vs matrilineal backgrounds (assuming your native culture is matrilineal, not all are). A man married into a different culture, but bc of his cultural upbringing feels entitled to take what belongs to his wife. So much so he screws his first born out of your inheritance. That isn’t a good father. You deserved better
They had rights?
Heh, women, more like, please help me. I'm being held hostage to write comments on youtube
Who did this to you??
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Every video makes me more certain that in ancient Japan I would just give up and be a dangerous mountain witch because 'F' all of that society nonsense.
The blood of the covenant is thicker then the water of the womb. Meaning found family is more important than the family you came from
Now I'm pretty sure medieval japanese disagree
0:29 I dont dislike his POV tbh.
Dividing land amongst children makes the land get smaller and smaller as generations go by. Giving the land to one person solves that problem.
Not your best work. AI?
I’m glad we haven’t changed practically anything
I was worried that this video was going to maybe be political but I am glad it is not.
I honestly learned something and it is something that people should think about more, basically woman's rights went to the wayside due to change in society, whatever the norms that existed that gave woman a fair ground slowly changed, not out of misogyny but out of practical needs.
In a way, that should be an important lesson, not just for woman's rights but also for all kinds of rights, in order to safe guard them you need a stable & sustainable society.
A society justifies its laws through morality. So even if misogyny was not the reason for a law, misogyny became moral when women owning property is illegal.
@@mueezadam8438
hard working man : " i leave my inheritance with my most capable son so he can defend it make sure rest of the family can survive"
death cultist living of welfare
"reeeeeeeeee misogyny , reeeeeee "
@@mueezadam8438that’s a really good summary of how misogyny was invented I think. Limiting women’s rights across patriarchal cultures occurred in societies that had more conflict and war. It was a practical thing initially. A warlord saves a city, is made the leader temporarily, then one day one wants to make sure he and his descendants stay in power so his family is taken care of. Resources are hoarded, social classes and gender roles redefined and reinforced. Then the limitations on women is institutionalized after the crisis passed and now women HAVE to stay as a subclass and be controlled, having theirs rights and autonomy reduced to eliminated entirely, and in worst case scenarios passed around like things, which then passes down trauma to subsequent generations. The solution to solve one issue thus creates entirely new issues we’re still dealing with today
Since it was mentioned in this video, and i hope there are people here who are as interested in this topic as i am: Usually, at least today, women live longer than men, this may be caused by the way they live (diet, work, stress,...), or because of more "genetic redundancy" in regard of the gonosomes. But was this always this way? Childbirth can be dangerous in a time before modern medicine, it would be deadly if something went wrong, and since people back then had far more children (high child mortality rate), and women where having children early on, it seems reasonable to assume that women would die earlier than men, right?
Hide this video before the U.S. conservatives gets ideas. 😂
Wtf i like samurais now - 👴🏻
Noooooooo sexism
It's more complicated than that as he explained but yeah pretty much if you just want to go surface level 😢
@@beyondborderfilms4352 Would you prefer Confucianism as your answer?
@@iamnothale- Frim what I have read and heard Confucianism and Buddhism with their mysoginy had quite an influence on women's rights.
I think this and pragmatism had at least as much to do with the change in society.
3:26 unlike now where in divorce woman gets everything he has and alimony
Divorce law in general is set up to divide a household equally. Men usually have more equity and property bc society is historically patriarchal, especially if he is the sole breadwinner. it’s more difficult / takes longer statistically for women to recover from divorce financially bc of various historic barriers that are only now getting dismantled.
So Divided equally, the man usually has to give up more bc he already had more to begin with. It’s to prevent the spouse with less assets ending up on the streets and starving. It’s blaming the woman for a systemic issue men in power long ago caused that hurts everyone involved
@@Joyride37 first off if you paid 100% of the house and she gets half still not fair. Second, is not how it goes down in family court. Men got more because we have to risk our life to make a living and defend the property. About ending on the streets and starving this only happened in certain societies like hindu society. In most societies either she found someone else or got a relative to stay with, or she got her drowry to live on . Women were ALWAYS a protected class. Yes they did not have so many rights because you should not give rights willy nilly to children and because rights are earned with blood but it worked
@@Joyride37 also as a note there were not as many divorces. Men generally only file for divorce for infidelity and women had no real incentive ( since there were no prizes like today) unless the man was an extremely shitty person
@@Ciprian-IonutPanaitsmall brained lies
The "rights" are granted and enforced by men. Always, in every society, since the dawn of man. No amount of presentism will overcome this brutal reality.
Matriarchal societies:
What? You said no presentism.
@@TornaitSuperBird Matrilineal and Matrifocal, not Matriarchal, and men still hold power. True matriarchal society never exist in the first place
I guess the Mosuo and Khasi, just to name a few, don't fit your view of history, so ignore them, right????
@@zink3679 literally who? some obscure group somewhere doesn't make the rule
Sadly it always boils down to which of us monkeys is bigger and louder. Which unfortunately in humans is almost always men. For all that we pretend we’re above animals, our societies still amount to beating on chests, screeching, and throwing weight around until the biggest, meanest monkey gets its way.
Sometimes equality isnt the best way to run things
Incel 😂
Thats why we love samurai so much.
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Yet another L for women.
Based japan
Incel 🤡