Back when I worked in the industry before UEFI, this was a major issue. May be better now but back then never under any circumstances should you risk updating your BIOS from within windows as the chances of failure where HIGH, even if the system did not loose power. I must have removed 100+ bios chips from motherboards and manually reprogramed them. We always recommended that BIOS updates were done via a MS dos boot disk, or by entering the BIOS utility before windows starts. 20 years later and Windows update is still bricking systems, when will MS ever learn.
Sadly this isn't always possible. Some hardware vendors (especially for older computers) would only allow updating the BIOS via a Windows setup file. I had to switch a friend's old laptop that originally came with Windows 7 from Linux back to Windows just to update its BIOS. There was no other option. Luckily the BIOS update went OK.
@@NeoNine10 It can be done other ways ba chip programmer as I did see a PC Tech on youtube do it, but then as you say, an old computer. Microsoft will just bypass the blocks and brick again. No doubt on that
BIOS's do not need to be updated, most machines go thru their entire life without being updated, Microsoft should stop this immediately, the potential for harm is there, - just like their auto enabling of Bitlocker. Please disable this "feature" Microsoft !
Any computer I have seen for quite a while now shows these firmware updates in the optional drivers list which can only be accessed by doing a manual Windows update, they are not automatically installed. Even on the last computer I built for a customer a few months ago. BIOS updates are not to keep Windows happy they are to make sure the hardware is working at its best. Do not forget there are a lot of people running other OSes. Maybe things are different in the UK. Cheers from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada!
@@gorddearmond7134 I have seen lately that BIOS updates are being included in the "general" windows update process, yes I wish it was optional too. I can see a situation where an end user see's a BIOS update in progress and force stops it because it's something they've never seen before and think it's something untoward. In the rare cases of it going wrong though, it's pretty much impossible for the end user to remedy it. Happy New Year from Australia :)
I have a MSI laptop but no issues except in October it stopped doing updates but your other video the other day helped with that issue.....many thanks 👍
Brian mate, ive been following you for a long time. Off on your site and on youtube. Want to wish you a happy new year. Keep on creating more informative and exciting videos into the new year❤
Most of the laptop has BIOS flashback/rollback disabled out of the factory. Once my sister's ThinkPad got it the same issue and it reverted back to old BIOS. ThinkPad BIOS update has now changed instead of installing it does a hot reload from System32/firmware. So for full proper update we still need to run actual ThinkPad update through Vantage or Lenovo system update or drivers page for complete flash
This is interesting as I've always updated the BIOS on my LENOVO LEGION laptop via the LENOVO VANTAGE app that's built into the Windows OS. However, I cannot remember that last time I've seen it to where the BIOS update was included with the regular updates. Usually, it's in the optional area that's under the main updates section. However, I've always been skeptical about WINDOWS sending out BIOS and driver updates for my computers. The best way to get updates whether it's BIOS or DRIVE updates is to just go to the manufacturer's website and download the software from there.Good warning video, Britec.
Thanks Brian mate I live in Australia and have been following your videos since Windows 7 and you have given out so many helpful tutorials and this one is no exception. In fact I had this exact situation about 2 months ago when my Asus Vivobook suddenly lost internet connections. I did all of the things I could think of and that included deleting the wifi card with no success on reboot. So I had to take it to a techie who found it was an Asus update that somehow prevented the laptop from functioning as it should. He fixed the issue but it remains that Microsoft had caused me to shell out money for a fix - pretty sick eh? I am going to fix that now in my gpedit so thanks again👍
Thank you very much for the Group Editor tweak. I have had TWO such automatic updates to my bios (I have a Samsung Galaxy Book4 i7-1355U/16/512/IPS 15,6). This irritated me because I want to be able to decide myself, and because I only bought this computer in August. My heart was in my throat while the BIOS firmware updated, but thankfully on both occasions everything did go well. However, I must tell you that removing the firmware from the "My computer Device Manager" is not foolproof. My previous computer HP Victus had an unexpected BIOS update, and I did exactly the procedure you show in your video. HOWEVER, after a bigger Windows Update (one of the major version updates) this setting was RE-ENABLED when the latest version of Windows was installed. I have Windows 11 Pro on both machines. Thank you for this very useful video!
@@Necla1652 this is not killing this is bricking you can repair it by reprograming your bios still its bad that ms implements these useless updates to laptops. Windows 11 almost 4 year old os and its still in bad state bruh cmon Windows 10 official 22h2 is going to die in 9 months?!?!!?!?
Call me paranoid, but I always update my BIOs in the old fashion way (a bootable USB drive or a CD). I never trust windows or any "automatic" BIOS update app.
This GPE policy is essential in preventing Windows Update from also downloading and installing Microsoft own version of AMD Adrenalin graphic drivers. Even if you start by downloading the video drivers directly from AMD, Windows Update (without this policy enabled) will then install their own version of AMD Adrenalin which will prevent Adrenalin from functioning altogether. So stupid, counterintuitive and completely ridiculous. Especially so when Windows Update doesn't have a simple toggle option to exclude driver updates, and we need to use GPE.
The driver pushed through windows update doesn't even function correctly, pressing the Radeon logo in the system tray says this driver is not compatible with this version.
Dell does this too. The BIOS screen says do not turn off your computer and keep it plugged in while it is updated. Maybe they think people won't use the software they installed on PCs to update.
Speaking of Dell, An Alienware R16 I have had for 1 year has gotten corrupted . I go to start windows and it goes to a screen that says boot drive cannot be found. to get the PC to start ,have to hit F12 key for start up options ,choose BIOS make sure windows is 1st option for boot,F10 save and let it boot to Windows 11. every time that is what I do to get it started. One day I will get Dell support to look in to this.
Great video, Dells such as 7310, 7320 do the forced updates via windows, I've seen it on other dell models but can't remember the models. Happy new year to yourself as well. There is no way bios updates should be part of windows updates, it is not needed. You are right there will be 1000s of laptops bricked because the battery run out or user turned off the laptop etc. I'd say it is deliberate personally.
Great content that majority of tech content creators have been missing. And thanks a lot for pointing out this update disaster causing great anxiety at least for me. Since Nadella came out as the CEO, which was about 10 years ago, Microsoft has started a war against their users and they committed their whole effort to disallow users from any comfortable computing experience since Windows 10. They left no control to user *unlike* Windows 7/Vista/XP. Also, Windows 10/11 Home users are hopeless as none of methods work unless you have Pro or higher. Also, HP is the first devil company that first started to rolling out BIOS updates through Windows which is too risky. Worse, they left user no option to disable that behaviour in UI while forcibly doing that. Awful. I still do not understand why Nadella and Microsoft board had no mercy on their users to provide happy computing environment by leaving no any control. We are geeks and power users knowing what thing is good or bad, so MS, please let us decide it. Thanks for the awareness!
Thanks Brian, good info! I have a Dell Precision 7530 LT running Win 10 Pro. Although I have seen a few BIOS updates as well as several firmware and drivers, none were via a Windows Update. All were "recommended" by Dell System Updates and require user confirmation prior to installation. Additionally, Dell automatically creates a restore point during the update process which is appreciated. Happy New Year!
I got a heads up from a related video about this, maybe a couple days ago. I signed into my Lenovo account and unchecked BIOS&Driver update. I haven't seen any Lenovo updates in my monthly Windows update I had to do.
Hi Brian, Thanks for the video, I have seen it corrupt a bios/Firmware chip before on someone elses youtube channel. I think this happend to my Dell venue pro tablet but I do have a HP Pavillion 15 laptop and a Lenonvo G50 laptop. Ashampoo win optimiser has a function to block driver updates, where BIOS or firmware comes in if bios doesn't have the setting you mention. To fix it we need a chip reader/programmer to rewrite it. I saw him do it. Thanks for the videos you do You have given some excellent help. Happy new year to you and family
The Bios Programmer is not that expensive actually and you basically read the chip number check it on the software and clip the leads on and program it by PC. This could be a great job actually. I wish I could remember what youtube channel it was.
@@Britec09 Yes I'm looking for the video to link to you so you can maybe get one of these programmers and fix them. He made it look a 10 second job once he pulled the board. I must admit I use to be a computer engineer and got A+ but gave up to stop my uncle for being put into a home because he was terminally ill and he passed in 2020 and now haven't got the money to return to it. I loved the job and still have old customers, that I see as they loved and said I was good at it. I did come across a job, years ago, at that time, a recently new computer, out of warrenty was getting hot and that was the customers complaint and there was a bios upgrade to fix that issue. I've also done tablet screens from China that you slide your finger up and the top menu comes down. That was fun. Typical Ebay job😆So when I do one I tend to tell customers. You Buy Cheap. You buy twice so better to pay genuine first as not only will it slightly cost more but it will you hassle and reliability😆
Most of the BIOS update packages will refuse to install if the laptop isn't plugged in to its charger and there is at least 50% battery charge. I'm speaking of the standalone packages, such as those downloaded from the computer's manufacturer's web site. I don't know if the packages from Windows Update bypass this check or not. Another way around this is that when there's a BIOS update, uncheck it in Windows Update and go to the manufacturer's web site to download and install it. Once you've done that, there's no longer a need for the one from Windows Update. Even if you can't get rid of it (although there are ways to force that), if it tries to install, it should simply see that it's not needed and will silently abort the install.
The hardware vendors ask this to MS for some of their models. The vendors also supply the updates to MS. Most of those laptops have a option in the bios called UEFI firmware capsule updates, turn that off to stop bios updates from Windows updates. Most of the laptops vendors ask MS to update are business models, should happen less on consumer models as far as i know.
Brian, the video peaked my interest because I've had it happen to me in the past. It didn't shutdown at all, just a bad flash I think from ASUS (on an older laptop I had). And only 20sec into the video - no surprises it's ASUS! Another feature update from Microsoft to getting people off Windows 10 - "Please wait as Windows f@#ks your laptop BIOS - We mean flash your laptop BIOS to the latest firmware" 😂🤣 Although I haven't had any issues for a few years now with BIOS updates through Windows or Linux
HP in my case. After windows update TPM is not detected in the system! AMD processor and plugged always. BIOS update process continue and laptop reboot, but unfortunately I must press N letter to continue the process. All best people and happy New Year! Many thanks to Mr Brian, Happy New Year!!
This isn't actually anything new. BIOS updates have been delivered through Windows Update for years now and it's always been an issue about not letting a laptop lose power when performing a BIOS update, even decades ago when doing it manually. I don't really know what the big deal is now. Just more stupid people using computers I guess.
Windows updates flashing your BIOS WTF. I use the Windows Automatic Updates Manager and do everything manually. Up to now no BIOS updates via this method, but I'll be keeping an eye out just in case ...
You beat me to it...What the F is Microsoft thinking...Flashing your bios is delicate procedure that can go wrong in a heartbeat if not done correctly as it is, let alone being done automatically...I remember downloading the D531 version 12 bios and it didn't work...Somehow the file is corrupted...So I looked through my archive of downloads from so many years earlier when it wasn't corrupted on the Dell site...
@@Britec09 Well, the way things are going...I will look for a Windows 10 laptop that can run Windows 11 but won't upgrade until they release Windows 12 or 13, the next version that doesn't have all these bugs...Hopefully 11, like Vista, will just be a bad memory...
Stupid automatic bios updates, it disables undervolting on older laptops. And undervolting on high-end/gaming laptops is a must to keep the temps in check and as a bonus higher performance. Most intel chips can get undervolted quite a bit.
Windows shouldn't be allowed to update your bios, as it's got f all to do with them , all manufacturers should have the option to on the system that only allows them to update the bios from within the system only
I am working in IT, and I always use BIOS update through Windows Update, and never have problems with that, on various brands, HP, Dell, Lenovo, ASUS, Acer, whatever. I don't want to say that this problem can't happen sometimes and in some cases, but it never happened to me, and I did this procedure hundreds of time with various laptops brands and generations, from the start of UEFI and aperaing this feature and possibility over Windows Update. Just my personal experience.
Yeah i saw that recent part repair guy's video on this as well. These kinds of updates have taken out entire fleets of machines in one go in businesses, its crazy. MS should at least do something to make this process safer like make the user aware a BIOS update is taking place as a Windows update. Or at least make the user aware with a pop up not to shutdown if the user tries shutting down the computer as a BIOS update is taking place. But really, i don't think they should be doing it via Windows update at all. It's both the BIOS supplier and MS fault here for enabling the problem.
Did I hear you correctly, this is ONLY going to affect Laptops ? I'm still running 10, on a desktop computer tower that started off with Windows 8, a lot of years ago. Thanks
When has or how would windows updates have any effect on Bios. It's a completely superette thing. If an update for Bios comes in a windows update its singed of and published by the manufacture, of your laptop it's the manufacture, fault not Microsoft's.
And who in their right mind updates their hardware via Windows Update? There is dedicated software for that, even with a laptop. But when you remove that software because it's bloatware, this is what happens later.
Yeah, about that laptop power issue, too many have a pregnant battery with 1Wh of energy capacity left. Dell prevents you from updating if the battery is missing or nearly dead, annoying feature on older models but prevents accidental bricking.
I found a Device firmware and a System firmware on my maim older PC Do I also disable System F.? Tomorrow will check work laptop too. Thanks for this ...
An automatic bios update gave me the blue Recovery key screen, but I have been unable to access my MS account to get the key, due to bad 2-factor phone number. No way to contact MS support by phone. Now a new, dead laptop. Looking at Linux operating sytem.
I don’t get it. Did you mean update bios itself is not wrong just that it might turn your laptop into a brick if accidentally shutdown the pc while the bios updating?
So this is pushed out in Windows Update in the optional driver updates. I have Windows Updates configured so they are not automatic. I have to manually start them and I can choose which updates to install. I've never seen a BIOS update listed on any desktop or laptop I have. Of course they're all at least 4 years old at this point, so there probably are no BIOS updates.
I have a RazerBlade 18, I didn't see any BIOS update in Windows (but I'll keep an eye on it), nothing in the BIOS and nothing in devices. So I guess this computer is not concerned.
So how should we update the BIOS? I have Lenovo laptop and I update BIOS through the LENOVO VANTAGE app . Is it okay? I never got BIOS update through Windows updates.
I think it usually warns the user to not turn off the device during these updates otherwise it could cause serious issues. If they cannot guarantee a continuous power supply, they have an option to decline or delay the update. Turning it off makes the user vulnerable to malware or other exploits if they forget to check for updates regularly and install them on their terms. There was a serious UEFI vulnerability this year but a June patch helped to fix it, which happened before I learned about the vulnerability. Most users won't learn about any as they usually don't follow computing channels or other sources. But they may have found this particular video and without broader awareness they will turn the updates off and - forget about it, at their detriment in the future. Those updates are there for a reason.
Critical updates (security updates) should always be allowed to install unless you hear of a serious issue and in that case you block them....Those "quality" updates are not security related and you can block them with no worries at all.
Just treated my self to a new copilot laptop. Going through out of box set up it started the checking for updates like normal then restarted and proceeded to do bios update. Though laptop is running well, 2 problems I noticed are the windows updates so far only security intelligence ones fail and it won't re-try if clicked. Further the widget on task bar don't open when mouse hovers over it. If I restart the pc the widgets and windows updates work and flush through ok but after a boot from shutdown the issue comes back. Wondering if this bios update messed this up straight from new out of box update?
Wonderful info, but a day (actually, several days) late! my laptop got zapped, and the computer tech has worked on it for days. It would not even respond to a recovery disk. For some reason (possibly the recovery disk being the wrong version, it became stuck on a Bit Locker screen on Win 11 Home which does not have Bit Locker! Being a Tech, he didn't believe me (a mere user) when I quoted you to him! So, I have sent him the link to your page, and I hope he is open enough to read and learn from you. Anyway, I believe the bios is now corrupted and needs to be refreshed, but how does one do that!
Does this, also include updates for PC/Desktop? Last week, I started my PC, & Windows auto/started an update then, automatically went to a restart/reset/re-install. The PC was working fine the night before. The mesage was, "do not turn off your PC" with no option to stop or change the process. This lost most of my files/apps/programs, including my MS Office 2019. Fortunately most of my filies etc. were on my "E" drive. But..., When windows finished, upon restart, all I got was a black screen with no ability to get into the bios. The PC was running with no image on the screen and unresponsive. I've had something similar happen when windows was doing an auto update in the background while I was also updating my graphics drivers. My solution to that, (after much troubleshooting), was to replace my boot drive & re-install windows.
Thanks for all your video's! I have a question off topic. I have W11-24H2 build 26100.2605. In the File Explorer the 3-dots menu opens downwards. On another PC with the same build it opens upwards out of the screen. Do you have an explanation for this and a fix?
Yep. My Dell G5se gaming laptop. When I installed windows the drivers from microsoft made it run constantly at 80 degrees. Ended up I had to clone windows from another computer and disable driver updates then install the cloned windows onto the laptop. If installing windows from scratch the drivers were installed before I could change the settings. The cloned windows from another computer runs perfect. Constant low temperatures
Never update bios from any OS, maybe except FreeDos and proper DOS update, if there is critical update, do it manually, download bios and update it from bios directly. Good example was when MSI Dragon Center (now known as just MSI Center) decided ti brick my MSI B450 Tomahawk Max bios, but luckily there is bios usb recovery, so I was just scared for a half an hour... Luckily I have another pc and usb flash drive, so I was ok... But I heard many stories, when antivirus blocks updating from Windows OS, or just windows update application just didn't worked correctly... I'm in wonder, why todays UEFI bioses even allow to do this dangerous thing... Its a poo poo, big poo poo...
Always appreciate your videos. I will make these changes. Over the last three years Microsoft updates have caused issues on my computers. I have an Asus, Acer and a Lenovo. My hard drive on the Lenovo crashes after an update and lost everything. Microsoft Sxxxs, I may dump these computers and buy Apple computers. My daughter been using Apple laptops for several years with no issues.
disabling driver update via gpedit is enough to not have any driver update or bios i did this to avoid nvidia driver update from microsoft and it also stopped bios update too btw i did update bios from windows update a couple of time few years ago and no issuse and never update bios again never need it though but in the future if i had to i will go to manufacturer website thanks for the info
I thought this would from the encryption and needing the key to get into the hard drive after the update. Seems that it is worse the the bios itself is the issue.
Dell G1555 AMD laptop will not boot after only disabling UEFI capsule update package in the BIOS. It changes other settings when you do that which make it unbootable. Had to take it to BestBuy repair on New Years Eve day. The tech said that Dell does not allow Windows to update BIOS. He found the changed setting which made it bootable again. $30 bucks but well spent.
I have an Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 and windows says there's a new bios version available. It's for v1.23. My laptop already has the newest v1.25. I have 4 of these laptops all of them are the same model and all have the newest bios installed, but windows wants to push an older bios on to them. Is this just applicable to laptops or is it on desktop PCs as well.
So far it's never been an issue. The Bios flashes after the restart and boots back into the boot loader with no issues. but have had bios updates included in windows updates on this Dell laptop and another Dell Optiplex Desktop.
I only update the BIOS when I am connected to a UPS. Have been very lucky, as I only had one instance that I might have had a bricked BIOS. Had two power dips while upgrading a desktop PC.
MS should compensate for ALL computers it bricks due to their meddling including inaccessible data! Complete lack of concern incompetence and sheer incompetence to making an intelligent updater that can check for bricking BEFORE it happens. Awful company with terrible ethics.
No, computer manufacturers should be compensate you. Manufacturing an unbrickable via bios update computer (or providing emergency recovery bios tools) would be freaking easy, yet pc manufacturers don't worry bothering with it, if it bricks, it's your problem, not theirs, they don't give a crap about it. The huge (money driven) incompetence is at the manufacturers.
Any computer I have seen for the last while has these updates as an optional update. Which most users will never see. That said, I have done numerous firmware (BIOS) updates from Windows update on different brands with no issues. I just wonder if some users are doing these updates and powering off or doing some kind of interruption before the update has finished. Or maybe I am just lucky. Cheers from Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada.
See this, checked out my Lenovo, sure enough there was one update for bios waiting for my approval. I went onto the Lenovo site and found that the version being pushed out was about 15 Revisions back. I then used there auto driver check tool that said no drivers needed at all. Then I checked manual update options and found the latest test for download, however it proved no reason for the update, which means I ain't updating.
I turned off all firmware updates in group policy & device manager. Under optional updates in regular Windows update it had several for Intel that seemed risky. It does have 3 for my Brother Printer. If my printer seems to be working OK, is there any point to these?
@@Britec09 I do sometimes, but only when I'm having problems. I suppose I could research each Intel update, but all my machines are running fine.When I set the printer for the highest quality, it looks great. I'm using the same principle as decades as a mechanic. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
For motherboards with BIOS flashback (USB) wouldn't this be enough to recover from a failed update? I have never experienced a failed BIOS update so have not been able to check this.
I updated the bios and cloned the hdd before installing the MS update. The update corrupted the Realtech sound card and the RTX4080. Luckily I was able to reinstall everything from my backup. Everything is working now.
I had the same issue with brand new MS Surfaces, about a year ago. It trashed the 4G adapter that is built into the tablet. Had to RMA about 12 out of 50.
Of course it does. BIOS updates are to make sure your hardware is working optimally. The thing is: you start the update and do NOTHING until the computer has rebooted to your desktop.
I have an Intel NUC that I use to control a fully automated telescope remotely. Can you make a video that describes a method to remove EVERYTHING I don't need to run Win11 as streamlined as possible? I need it to run a handful of applications that are very specific to the task at hand without a bunch of bloat.
Glad i am using windows 10 and cannot upgrade to win 11 because of systems requirements . Not a good feature MS. BUT this update frayi think comes in OPTIONAL updates and will only be installed if user do it themselves. But they should disable this altogether .
Yes true but my don't have enny problems about it because I stop windows update about one year all working properly and cool happy new year and all the best for you and your family
Thank God I very rarely touch my windows 11 laptop. I prefer my Dinasoar HP Z440 running windows 10 6 cores@3.9 32g ddr4. It's old but crushes the laptop in performance.
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Back when I worked in the industry before UEFI, this was a major issue. May be better now but back then never under any circumstances should you risk updating your BIOS from within windows as the chances of failure where HIGH, even if the system did not loose power. I must have removed 100+ bios chips from motherboards and manually reprogramed them. We always recommended that BIOS updates were done via a MS dos boot disk, or by entering the BIOS utility before windows starts. 20 years later and Windows update is still bricking systems, when will MS ever learn.
Microsoft never learn 😂
@@Britec09 Sad but true.
Sadly this isn't always possible. Some hardware vendors (especially for older computers) would only allow updating the BIOS via a Windows setup file. I had to switch a friend's old laptop that originally came with Windows 7 from Linux back to Windows just to update its BIOS. There was no other option. Luckily the BIOS update went OK.
@@NeoNine10 It can be done other ways ba chip programmer as I did see a PC Tech on youtube do it, but then as you say, an old computer. Microsoft will just bypass the blocks and brick again. No doubt on that
@@Britec09 They keep us in a job though Brian😁😆🤣👍
Brian, your channel is a Godsend! I have been a subscriber for a long time now. Keep up the good work and thank you. Happy New Year!
Thanks for the support and Happy New Year!
Happy New Year Brian. And thank you for your videos this year.
Happy new year!
BIOS's do not need to be updated, most machines go thru their entire life without being updated, Microsoft should stop this immediately, the potential for harm is there, - just like their auto enabling of Bitlocker. Please disable this "feature" Microsoft !
Any computer I have seen for quite a while now shows these firmware updates in the optional drivers list which can only be accessed by doing a manual Windows update, they are not automatically installed. Even on the last computer I built for a customer a few months ago. BIOS updates are not to keep Windows happy they are to make sure the hardware is working at its best. Do not forget there are a lot of people running other OSes. Maybe things are different in the UK. Cheers from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada!
I agree with the bitlocker, unless youre trully understand the benefit and minus this should be turn off
@@gorddearmond7134 I have seen lately that BIOS updates are being included in the "general" windows update process, yes I wish it was optional too. I can see a situation where an end user see's a BIOS update in progress and force stops it because it's something they've never seen before and think it's something untoward. In the rare cases of it going wrong though, it's pretty much impossible for the end user to remedy it. Happy New Year from Australia :)
@@AndyM... Thanks for your reply!
ms want to update bios due to security patches for vulnearbilities like logo fail last year i guess but it made more damages than good.
I have a MSI laptop but no issues except in October it stopped doing updates but your other video the other day helped with that issue.....many thanks 👍
Happy New year Brian! Thank you for your invaluable videos. Could you please show us how to do this inside the BIOS?
It hit me a week ago. Now I knew the reason, why. Thank you.😊
Brian mate, ive been following you for a long time. Off on your site and on youtube. Want to wish you a happy new year. Keep on creating more informative and exciting videos into the new year❤
Most of the laptop has BIOS flashback/rollback disabled out of the factory. Once my sister's ThinkPad got it the same issue and it reverted back to old BIOS. ThinkPad BIOS update has now changed instead of installing it does a hot reload from System32/firmware.
So for full proper update we still need to run actual ThinkPad update through Vantage or Lenovo system update or drivers page for complete flash
It's also lovely when it does not suspend bitlocker before bios update, and the user may end up with a locked system drive.
This is interesting as I've always updated the BIOS on my LENOVO LEGION laptop via the LENOVO VANTAGE app that's built into the Windows OS. However, I cannot remember that last time I've seen it to where the BIOS update was included with the regular updates. Usually, it's in the optional area that's under the main updates section. However, I've always been skeptical about WINDOWS sending out BIOS and driver updates for my computers. The best way to get updates whether it's BIOS or DRIVE updates is to just go to the manufacturer's website and download the software from there.Good warning video, Britec.
thats also a bit eh, just use your legion models support page and do it that way
Thanks Brian mate I live in Australia and have been following your videos since Windows 7 and you have given out so many helpful tutorials and this one is no exception. In fact I had this exact situation about 2 months ago when my Asus Vivobook suddenly lost internet connections. I did all of the things I could think of and that included deleting the wifi card with no success on reboot. So I had to take it to a techie who found it was an Asus update that somehow prevented the laptop from functioning as it should. He fixed the issue but it remains that Microsoft had caused me to shell out money for a fix - pretty sick eh? I am going to fix that now in my gpedit so thanks again👍
Happy New Year to you and Thanks for all you do for us.
Happy new year!
Happy New Year, Brian! 🎇🎆
Happy New Year, Robert
Thank you very much for the Group Editor tweak. I have had TWO such automatic updates to my bios (I have a Samsung Galaxy Book4 i7-1355U/16/512/IPS 15,6). This irritated me because I want to be able to decide myself, and because I only bought this computer in August. My heart was in my throat while the BIOS firmware updated, but thankfully on both occasions everything did go well.
However, I must tell you that removing the firmware from the "My computer Device Manager" is not foolproof. My previous computer HP Victus had an unexpected BIOS update, and I did exactly the procedure you show in your video. HOWEVER, after a bigger Windows Update (one of the major version updates) this setting was RE-ENABLED when the latest version of Windows was installed.
I have Windows 11 Pro on both machines.
Thank you for this very useful video!
what I if put a password ON THE BIOS? can it still update?
Since Microsoft invented online updates this has been the easiest way to kill your computer.
Absolutely, they aimed hardware components after killing their software enough.
This, in fact, is one of malwares
@@Necla1652 this is not killing this is bricking you can repair it by reprograming your bios still its bad that ms implements these useless updates to laptops. Windows 11 almost 4 year old os and its still in bad state bruh cmon Windows 10 official 22h2 is going to die in 9 months?!?!!?!?
True,its should optional.
I switched to Linux over 10 years ago best thing I ever did.
Call me paranoid, but I always update my BIOs in the old fashion way (a bootable USB drive or a CD). I never trust windows or any "automatic" BIOS update app.
I do as well using a USB flash drive
Smartest way to do it
Same here
This is only proper way to update bios.
your not paranoid, doing it out of band is the proper way as it means there are no processes that can conflict the update process.
This GPE policy is essential in preventing Windows Update from also downloading and installing Microsoft own version of AMD Adrenalin graphic drivers. Even if you start by downloading the video drivers directly from AMD, Windows Update (without this policy enabled) will then install their own version of AMD Adrenalin which will prevent Adrenalin from functioning altogether. So stupid, counterintuitive and completely ridiculous. Especially so when Windows Update doesn't have a simple toggle option to exclude driver updates, and we need to use GPE.
The driver pushed through windows update doesn't even function correctly, pressing the Radeon logo in the system tray says this driver is not compatible with this version.
Cheers Bri and have a happy new year
happy new year
Thank you dear for your useful videos and Happy New Year 🎉🎉🎉
Happy new year Eman
Dell does this too. The BIOS screen says do not turn off your computer and keep it plugged in while it is updated. Maybe they think people won't use the software they installed on PCs to update.
Its proper dodgy way of updating BIOS or Firmware
Speaking of Dell, An Alienware R16 I have had for 1 year has gotten corrupted . I go to start windows and it goes to a screen that says boot drive cannot be found. to get the PC to start ,have to hit F12 key for start up options ,choose BIOS make sure windows is 1st option for boot,F10 save and let it boot to Windows 11. every time that is what I do to get it started. One day I will get Dell support to look in to this.
So what's the problem? It's a courtesy telling people not to turn off or unplug the computer. It's more than most companies do.
Great video, Dells such as 7310, 7320 do the forced updates via windows, I've seen it on other dell models but can't remember the models. Happy new year to yourself as well. There is no way bios updates should be part of windows updates, it is not needed. You are right there will be 1000s of laptops bricked because the battery run out or user turned off the laptop etc. I'd say it is deliberate personally.
Great content that majority of tech content creators have been missing. And thanks a lot for pointing out this update disaster causing great anxiety at least for me. Since Nadella came out as the CEO, which was about 10 years ago, Microsoft has started a war against their users and they committed their whole effort to disallow users from any comfortable computing experience since Windows 10. They left no control to user *unlike* Windows 7/Vista/XP.
Also, Windows 10/11 Home users are hopeless as none of methods work unless you have Pro or higher. Also, HP is the first devil company that first started to rolling out BIOS updates through Windows which is too risky. Worse, they left user no option to disable that behaviour in UI while forcibly doing that. Awful.
I still do not understand why Nadella and Microsoft board had no mercy on their users to provide happy computing environment by leaving no any control. We are geeks and power users knowing what thing is good or bad, so MS, please let us decide it. Thanks for the awareness!
Never once had this issue from 'The Linux vendor firmware service'. How does MS screw this up?
Thanks Brian, good info! I have a Dell Precision 7530 LT running Win 10 Pro. Although I have seen a few BIOS updates as well as several firmware and drivers, none were via a Windows Update. All were "recommended" by Dell System Updates and require user confirmation prior to installation. Additionally, Dell automatically creates a restore point during the update process which is appreciated. Happy New Year!
Thanks mate, Happy New Year!
I got a heads up from a related video about this, maybe a couple days ago. I signed into my Lenovo account and unchecked BIOS&Driver update. I haven't seen any Lenovo updates in my monthly Windows update I had to do.
Hi Brian, Thanks for the video, I have seen it corrupt a bios/Firmware chip before on someone elses youtube channel. I think this happend to my Dell venue pro tablet but I do have a HP Pavillion 15 laptop and a Lenonvo G50 laptop. Ashampoo win optimiser has a function to block driver updates, where BIOS or firmware comes in if bios doesn't have the setting you mention. To fix it we need a chip reader/programmer to rewrite it. I saw him do it. Thanks for the videos you do You have given some excellent help. Happy new year to you and family
The Bios Programmer is not that expensive actually and you basically read the chip number check it on the software and clip the leads on and program it by PC. This could be a great job actually. I wish I could remember what youtube channel it was.
its a common problem
@@Britec09 Yes I'm looking for the video to link to you so you can maybe get one of these programmers and fix them. He made it look a 10 second job once he pulled the board. I must admit I use to be a computer engineer and got A+ but gave up to stop my uncle for being put into a home because he was terminally ill and he passed in 2020 and now haven't got the money to return to it. I loved the job and still have old customers, that I see as they loved and said I was good at it. I did come across a job, years ago, at that time, a recently new computer, out of warrenty was getting hot and that was the customers complaint and there was a bios upgrade to fix that issue. I've also done tablet screens from China that you slide your finger up and the top menu comes down. That was fun. Typical Ebay job😆So when I do one I tend to tell customers. You Buy Cheap. You buy twice so better to pay genuine first as not only will it slightly cost more but it will you hassle and reliability😆
Pity Britec didnt tell us how to restore the bricked Bios, rather than visit a PC Repair shop
I can make video showing you, but my audience won't watch it
You are an absolute superstar!! Thank you for this video and God bless you! 🙂
You are so welcome!
Most of the BIOS update packages will refuse to install if the laptop isn't plugged in to its charger and there is at least 50% battery charge. I'm speaking of the standalone packages, such as those downloaded from the computer's manufacturer's web site. I don't know if the packages from Windows Update bypass this check or not.
Another way around this is that when there's a BIOS update, uncheck it in Windows Update and go to the manufacturer's web site to download and install it. Once you've done that, there's no longer a need for the one from Windows Update. Even if you can't get rid of it (although there are ways to force that), if it tries to install, it should simply see that it's not needed and will silently abort the install.
People must me stopping at a time when its updating the BIOS and not realising how bad it is to do that.
@@Britec09 Yes I think most bios issues are from being interrupted halfway through the updates.
The hardware vendors ask this to MS for some of their models. The vendors also supply the updates to MS. Most of those laptops have a option in the bios called UEFI firmware capsule updates, turn that off to stop bios updates from Windows updates. Most of the laptops vendors ask MS to update are business models, should happen less on consumer models as far as i know.
Brian mate.. Are PCI M.2 converters really any good or am i better updating my board with 3 or 4 M.2 slots?
Brian, the video peaked my interest because I've had it happen to me in the past. It didn't shutdown at all, just a bad flash I think from ASUS (on an older laptop I had). And only 20sec into the video - no surprises it's ASUS!
Another feature update from Microsoft to getting people off Windows 10 - "Please wait as Windows f@#ks your laptop BIOS -
We mean flash your laptop BIOS to the latest firmware" 😂🤣
Although I haven't had any issues for a few years now with BIOS updates through Windows or Linux
I don't trust Microsoft drivers. I trust manufacturer drivers. I love you.
Yes this is a problem that has been brought into my shop. Good video.
Thanks 👍
Unless John Doe watches this YT channel they'll have no idea about this issue. Thanx for the update.
HP in my case.
After windows update TPM is not detected in the system!
AMD processor and plugged always.
BIOS update process continue and laptop reboot, but unfortunately I must press N letter to continue the process.
All best people and happy New Year!
Many thanks to Mr Brian, Happy New Year!!
Good Save, Thanks!
You're welcome!
So why is Microsoft not being sued for this?
Because everyone relies on them and Microsoft gets a free pass because of that. It's a disgusting monopoly.
These updates are given(posted) to MS by the manufacturer they are NOT generated by Microsoft. I live in Canada and have NO affiliation with MS
This isn't actually anything new. BIOS updates have been delivered through Windows Update for years now and it's always been an issue about not letting a laptop lose power when performing a BIOS update, even decades ago when doing it manually. I don't really know what the big deal is now. Just more stupid people using computers I guess.
because Microsoft bought all the lawyers, they can afford to
Windows updates flashing your BIOS WTF. I use the Windows Automatic Updates Manager and do everything manually. Up to now no BIOS updates via this method, but I'll be keeping an eye out just in case ...
You beat me to it...What the F is Microsoft thinking...Flashing your bios is delicate procedure that can go wrong in a heartbeat if not done correctly as it is, let alone being done automatically...I remember downloading the D531 version 12 bios and it didn't work...Somehow the file is corrupted...So I looked through my archive of downloads from so many years earlier when it wasn't corrupted on the Dell site...
@Sid-Cannon Microsoft love making it hard for people.
@josephvida1439 Dell have been doing these BIOS flashing like this for a long while
@@Britec09 Well, the way things are going...I will look for a Windows 10 laptop that can run Windows 11 but won't upgrade until they release Windows 12 or 13, the next version that doesn't have all these bugs...Hopefully 11, like Vista, will just be a bad memory...
Windows 10 has until Oct 2025 and then you can extend until Oct 2026 for $30
Does it affect Windows 10 with legacy bios.
Samsung bricked my BluRay player by doing similar updates.
Happy New Year Brian
Just UEFI as far as I know. Happy New Year
Stupid automatic bios updates, it disables undervolting on older laptops. And undervolting on high-end/gaming laptops is a must to keep the temps in check and as a bonus higher performance. Most intel chips can get undervolted quite a bit.
Windows shouldn't be allowed to update your bios, as it's got f all to do with them , all manufacturers should have the option to on the system that only allows them to update the bios from within the system only
It should down to the individual to update BIOS
I am working in IT, and I always use BIOS update through Windows Update, and never have problems with that, on various brands, HP, Dell, Lenovo, ASUS, Acer, whatever. I don't want to say that this problem can't happen sometimes and in some cases, but it never happened to me, and I did this procedure hundreds of time with various laptops brands and generations, from the start of UEFI and aperaing this feature and possibility over Windows Update. Just my personal experience.
Thank-you for this...
My pleasure
Yeah i saw that recent part repair guy's video on this as well. These kinds of updates have taken out entire fleets of machines in one go in businesses, its crazy.
MS should at least do something to make this process safer like make the user aware a BIOS update is taking place as a Windows update. Or at least make the user aware with a pop up not to shutdown if the user tries shutting down the computer as a BIOS update is taking place. But really, i don't think they should be doing it via Windows update at all. It's both the BIOS supplier and MS fault here for enabling the problem.
How do i edit the registry on Win 11 Home? Thanks.
Happy New Year🎉🎉
Happy new year
How do you access the BIOS to do this please? I am running W11 Home. Happy New Year to you too!
try tapping F2 or Delete key on startup
Why do we need malevolent hackers when Microsoft is going to brick our systems? Hackers will be jealous of this.
On the HP Elitedesks I think you can backup the firmware to a USB just in case.
Did I hear you correctly, this is ONLY going to affect Laptops ? I'm still running 10, on a desktop computer tower that started off with Windows 8, a lot of years ago. Thanks
Dell Desktops might do it.
@@Britec09 Thank You... I'm running on an HP ENVY, so Maybe??? I'll be OK ?
@@Britec09yes they do
When has or how would windows updates have any effect on Bios. It's a completely superette thing. If an update for Bios comes in a windows update its singed of and published by the manufacture, of your laptop it's the manufacture, fault not Microsoft's.
nah this is just microsoft kicking us in the balls for downgrading to win10
What about a lenovo laptop running Win 10 Home? There is no gpedit available on win 10.
some lenovo models dont have the ability to turn off within bios "WU capsule updates"
Are tower PCs included in this?
And who in their right mind updates their hardware via Windows Update? There is dedicated software for that, even with a laptop. But when you remove that software because it's bloatware, this is what happens later.
Yeah, about that laptop power issue, too many have a pregnant battery with 1Wh of energy capacity left.
Dell prevents you from updating if the battery is missing or nearly dead, annoying feature on older models but prevents accidental bricking.
Happy new year!
Happy new year!
I found a Device firmware and a System firmware on my maim older PC
Do I also disable System F.?
Tomorrow will check work laptop too.
Thanks for this ...
An automatic bios update gave me the blue Recovery key screen, but I have been unable to access my MS account to get the key, due to bad 2-factor phone number. No way to contact MS support by phone. Now a new, dead laptop. Looking at Linux operating sytem.
I don’t get it. Did you mean update bios itself is not wrong just that it might turn your laptop into a brick if accidentally shutdown the pc while the bios updating?
So this is pushed out in Windows Update in the optional driver updates. I have Windows Updates configured so they are not automatic. I have to manually start them and I can choose which updates to install. I've never seen a BIOS update listed on any desktop or laptop I have. Of course they're all at least 4 years old at this point, so there probably are no BIOS updates.
I have a RazerBlade 18, I didn't see any BIOS update in Windows (but I'll keep an eye on it), nothing in the BIOS and nothing in devices. So I guess this computer is not concerned.
So how should we update the BIOS?
I have Lenovo laptop and I update BIOS through the LENOVO VANTAGE app . Is it okay? I never got BIOS update through Windows updates.
This was a request video on how to stop it, if your OK with it updating BIOS like this, then no need to follow these steps.
I think it usually warns the user to not turn off the device during these updates otherwise it could cause serious issues. If they cannot guarantee a continuous power supply, they have an option to decline or delay the update. Turning it off makes the user vulnerable to malware or other exploits if they forget to check for updates regularly and install them on their terms. There was a serious UEFI vulnerability this year but a June patch helped to fix it, which happened before I learned about the vulnerability. Most users won't learn about any as they usually don't follow computing channels or other sources. But they may have found this particular video and without broader awareness they will turn the updates off and - forget about it, at their detriment in the future. Those updates are there for a reason.
Critical updates (security updates) should always be allowed to install unless you hear of a serious issue and in that case you block them....Those "quality" updates are not security related and you can block them with no worries at all.
Just treated my self to a new copilot laptop. Going through out of box set up it started the checking for updates like normal then restarted and proceeded to do bios update. Though laptop is running well, 2 problems I noticed are the windows updates so far only security intelligence ones fail and it won't re-try if clicked. Further the widget on task bar don't open when mouse hovers over it. If I restart the pc the widgets and windows updates work and flush through ok but after a boot from shutdown the issue comes back. Wondering if this bios update messed this up straight from new out of box update?
@@markbaker8280 Thanks I will try this option out
Wonderful info, but a day (actually, several days) late! my laptop got zapped, and the computer tech has worked on it for days. It would not even respond to a recovery disk. For some reason (possibly the recovery disk being the wrong version, it became stuck on a Bit Locker screen on Win 11 Home which does not have Bit Locker!
Being a Tech, he didn't believe me (a mere user) when I quoted you to him! So, I have sent him the link to your page, and I hope he is open enough to read and learn from you.
Anyway, I believe the bios is now corrupted and needs to be refreshed, but how does one do that!
Does this, also include updates for PC/Desktop? Last week, I started my PC, & Windows auto/started an update then, automatically went to a restart/reset/re-install. The PC was working fine the night before. The mesage was, "do not turn off your PC" with no option to stop or change the process. This lost most of my files/apps/programs, including my MS Office 2019. Fortunately most of my filies etc. were on my "E" drive. But..., When windows finished, upon restart, all I got was a black screen with no ability to get into the bios. The PC was running with no image on the screen and unresponsive. I've had something similar happen when windows was doing an auto update in the background while I was also updating my graphics drivers. My solution to that, (after much troubleshooting), was to replace my boot drive & re-install windows.
Thanks for all your video's! I have a question off topic. I have W11-24H2 build 26100.2605. In the File Explorer the 3-dots menu opens downwards. On another PC with the same build it opens upwards out of the screen. Do you have an explanation for this and a fix?
Yep. My Dell G5se gaming laptop. When I installed windows the drivers from microsoft made it run constantly at 80 degrees. Ended up I had to clone windows from another computer and disable driver updates then install the cloned windows onto the laptop. If installing windows from scratch the drivers were installed before I could change the settings. The cloned windows from another computer runs perfect. Constant low temperatures
If Microsoft doesn't scrap hardware with system requirements, then BIOS update will definitely do so.
I am surprised class action lawsuits haven't sprung up from it.
Never update bios from any OS, maybe except FreeDos and proper DOS update, if there is critical update, do it manually, download bios and update it from bios directly. Good example was when MSI Dragon Center (now known as just MSI Center) decided ti brick my MSI B450 Tomahawk Max bios, but luckily there is bios usb recovery, so I was just scared for a half an hour... Luckily I have another pc and usb flash drive, so I was ok... But I heard many stories, when antivirus blocks updating from Windows OS, or just windows update application just didn't worked correctly...
I'm in wonder, why todays UEFI bioses even allow to do this dangerous thing... Its a poo poo, big poo poo...
Always appreciate your videos. I will make these changes. Over the last three years Microsoft updates have caused issues on my computers. I have an Asus, Acer and a Lenovo. My hard drive on the Lenovo crashes after an update and lost everything. Microsoft Sxxxs, I may dump these computers and buy Apple computers. My daughter been using Apple laptops for several years with no issues.
Its a risk not worth taking leaving these settings on. Only need to stop half way in and your brick your laptop
disabling driver update via gpedit is enough to not have any driver update or bios i did this to avoid nvidia driver update from microsoft and it also stopped bios update too btw i did update bios from windows update a couple of time few years ago and no issuse and never update bios again never need it though but in the future if i had to i will go to manufacturer website thanks for the info
I thought this would from the encryption and needing the key to get into the hard drive after the update. Seems that it is worse the the bios itself is the issue.
Dell G1555 AMD laptop will not boot after only disabling UEFI capsule update package in the BIOS. It changes other settings when you do that which make it unbootable. Had to take it to BestBuy repair on New Years Eve day. The tech said that Dell does not allow Windows to update BIOS. He found the changed setting which made it bootable again. $30 bucks but well spent.
I have an Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 and windows says there's a new bios version available. It's for v1.23. My laptop already has the newest v1.25. I have 4 of these laptops all of them are the same model and all have the newest bios installed, but windows wants to push an older bios on to them. Is this just applicable to laptops or is it on desktop PCs as well.
I have a Dell laptop that is dual boot with Windows 10 and Linux. I have had Windows 10 updates that have included Bois updates.
what happen after the update then?
So far it's never been an issue. The Bios flashes after the restart and boots back into the boot loader with no issues. but have had bios updates included in windows updates on this Dell laptop and another Dell Optiplex Desktop.
@@TuxUser-X11 windows updates are known to brick GRUB, I would proceed with caution..
@@Afurai_ I am not using GRUB. I am using rEFlnd for the boot loader. I am on CachyOS. It is Arch based 😉
@@Afurai_ I am not using GRUB. I am using rEFlnd for the boot loader.
I only update the BIOS when I am connected to a UPS. Have been very lucky, as I only had one instance that I might have had a bricked BIOS. Had two power dips while upgrading a desktop PC.
MS should compensate for ALL computers it bricks due to their meddling including inaccessible data!
Complete lack of concern incompetence and sheer incompetence to making an intelligent updater that can check for bricking BEFORE it happens. Awful company with terrible ethics.
No, computer manufacturers should be compensate you. Manufacturing an unbrickable via bios update computer (or providing emergency recovery bios tools) would be freaking easy, yet pc manufacturers don't worry bothering with it, if it bricks, it's your problem, not theirs, they don't give a crap about it. The huge (money driven) incompetence is at the manufacturers.
@@asdfhun Fair point. But it's MS that's doing the dirty here. They are the ones breaking a previously working system.
Any computer I have seen for the last while has these updates as an optional update. Which most users will never see. That said, I have done numerous firmware (BIOS) updates from Windows update on different brands with no issues. I just wonder if some users are doing these updates and powering off or doing some kind of interruption before the update has finished. Or maybe I am just lucky. Cheers from Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada.
Is it the same in HP ProBook
See this, checked out my Lenovo, sure enough there was one update for bios waiting for my approval. I went onto the Lenovo site and found that the version being pushed out was about 15 Revisions back. I then used there auto driver check tool that said no drivers needed at all. Then I checked manual update options and found the latest test for download, however it proved no reason for the update, which means I ain't updating.
Thank fully I am on Windows 10 & will remain on it even after EOS. I decide when to update my BIOS not my OS.
I turned off all firmware updates in group policy & device manager. Under optional updates in regular Windows update it had several for Intel that seemed risky. It does have 3 for my Brother Printer. If my printer seems to be working OK, is there any point to these?
You can always download drivers and software updates
@@Britec09 I do sometimes, but only when I'm having problems. I suppose I could research each Intel update, but all my machines are running fine.When I set the printer for the highest quality, it looks great. I'm using the same principle as decades as a mechanic. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
For motherboards with BIOS flashback (USB) wouldn't this be enough to recover from a failed update? I have never experienced a failed BIOS update so have not been able to check this.
I updated the bios and cloned the hdd before installing the MS update. The update corrupted the Realtech sound card and the RTX4080. Luckily I was able to reinstall everything from my backup. Everything is working now.
I had the same issue with brand new MS Surfaces, about a year ago. It trashed the 4G adapter that is built into the tablet. Had to RMA about 12 out of 50.
Ouch, that's not good.
Does this affect Desktops as well?
Of course it does. BIOS updates are to make sure your hardware is working optimally. The thing is: you start the update and do NOTHING until the computer has rebooted to your desktop.
I have an Intel NUC that I use to control a fully automated telescope remotely.
Can you make a video that describes a method to remove EVERYTHING I don't need to run Win11 as streamlined as possible?
I need it to run a handful of applications that are very specific to the task at hand without a bunch of bloat.
See what I can do
So is that what killed my Asus A52N's ability to charge the battery because a new battery didn't work either?
what about desktop pc should i stay in Windows 10 ltsc so the fricking Windows 11 wont brick my pc?
Is this ONLY laptops, how come?
Glad i am using windows 10 and cannot upgrade to win 11 because of systems requirements . Not a good feature MS. BUT this update frayi think comes in OPTIONAL updates and will only be installed if user do it themselves. But they should disable this altogether .
Yes true but my don't have enny problems about it because I stop windows update about one year all working properly and cool happy new year and all the best for you and your family
If I don't use win pro?
Thank God I very rarely touch my windows 11 laptop. I prefer my Dinasoar HP Z440 running windows 10 6 cores@3.9 32g ddr4. It's old but crushes the laptop in performance.