The snap-on fan boys at my shop were calling my jh williams wrenches knock off snap-on. Little do they known jh williams makes all snap-on hand tools. Idiot based npc
I bought the 3/8 drive stubby and I work on old rusty classic cars and that thing has saved me so much trouble vs using hand tools or trying to fit the 1/2 in m18 in a tight spot using a u joint. Definitely the best 180 bucks I’ve ever spent
@@Mastermindyoung14 exactly. It was a tie @ 450 ft-lbs, except the M12 more compact, has been on the market for years, and is part of a much more expansive platform. I love my DeWalt 20V and 60V tools, but they slept on the 12V market and allowed Milwaukee to completely dominate that space.
I buy based on how fast i can get the tool replaced through warranty. Tools will break at any point in time but i might need it that day and that hour. So if HD and Husky or Pittsburgh and HF is closer thats where im going. Don't got time to wait for the truck to come back around.
@@Tj1983coggin i wouldnt buy any tool truck sockets. Completely unnecessary and just a high risk of lost money because u can drop them in the abyss or misplace them quite ez. Maybe torx id buy nice ones but the rest can be whatever. There is minimal difference
It's still amazing to me that a 3-year-old Milwaukee tool is kicking the crap out of a newer snap-on. I was a heavy equipment mechanic for 10 years before becoming a manufacturing maintenance technician and all of my battery tools are Milwaukee. They have never failed me. It's also really good to see that it won't. Tools are starting to be snap-on as well because for a while there Milwaukee was kind of ahead of the pack but maybe with more competitors passing up. Snap-on maybe they'll start making a better quality tool for their battery line
Both dewalt and milwaukee did well, but I gotta admit, m12 ftw, for its size and weight. After all, once you start working on bolts past 350, it's time to put the stubby compacts away and grab a mid torque.
You are exactly right and we preach this all the time. Just because these impact wrenches and even impact drivers are getting up in these crazy power numbers, you still need to use the right tool for the job. Great point! Thanks for watching.
To be fair, that Milwaukee is rated for 250 ft lbs and it busted 450 with minimal struggle and the DeWalt rated for 400 struggled more to break 450 loose. That’s pretty impressive in my opinion.
I have been a professional mechanic for 40 years. I was a Snap On fanboy for 35 of those years. Prices got so ridiculous and I grew weary of weekly Payments for years on end. I sold my Epiq, my SO power tools and impacts and went to ICON toolbox and Milwaukee power tools. Not a single regret, no weekly bills, less expensive and better warranty. Snap On dealer isn’t happy with me though, lol.
@@bigboreracing356 hehe found the true Strap On fanboi! Does it bother you to know that people everywhere are waking up to the Snap On Tool Company's oppressive pricing strategy? It's designed to keep idiots like you in perpetual debt. Enjoy paying more to effectively get less work done. It is great that a greedy American company can still make money off of stupid people who aren't in the know.
no way I'd give up my SO box for an Icon. Icon can't hold all my tools, they don't even fit in my 8 foot long SO. I've been buying Snap-on for 32 years so I own what I need. Probably won't buy too many more tools now. Most of my power tools are Dewalt.
@@tacticaldorito3942 i own snap on ratchets, but usually use my fuller ratchets. not a big fan of the snap on ratchets. i only use them when i want to feel like a gangster. which is less often as i get older lol as for wrenches there are many good wrench brands just as good as snap on. a wrench can only be so good..
@@leolopez626 I hear they need work done often which is sad. If they lasted a long time the price could be reasonable. Atleast 5 years no issues. 10 for light use. Just doesnt work. Design? Awesome, power for that design?perfect. Just price warranty and reliability I guess
This was the first Milwaukee tool I owned after I asked my Father to get it for me a couple years ago as a birthday present. Now I have an addiction, I own the new M18 mid torque, 1/4 stubby, old 1/4 ratchet, new high speed 1/4 ratchet, extended reach 3/8 ratchet, hammer drill, and now the fuel screwdriver also.
I love Snap-On. I love their ratchets, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers etc BUT THEY MUST DISCONTINUE THIS TOOL AT ONCE IF THEY WANT TO SAVE FACE It's beyond meme level junk, it's *C R I N G E*
You would think they would do something about it. Supposedly their new CT9015 (1/2" drive of the same tool) is supposed to be 900 ft-lbs. We're trying to get one now, but it states "backordered" on the website. Why they would make the same tool with one to have 300 and the other to have 900 ft-lbs is beyond our comprehension. Thanks for watching.
It's a typo on the ct9015. It actually has 10 more ftlbs vs the ct9010. The ct8810 and 8815 was the same way and that's what the newer tools replaced. I have a 9015 and I 100% promise you its nowhere near 900ft lbs. The ct9075 specs was put on the 9015 page on the website.
@@db3467 Facts! If they don't half their prices soon, they won't make it another decade. Their biggest competitor is Amazon. I expect Mac will fall first.
The snap-on looks like absolute garbage tbh. Even it's design looks more like something you'd order from wish for 20 bucks... And its performance seems to match as well :/
Yea. I never understood why their power tools have such a crappy design. Looks super blah. You'd think, especially for the money and quality the name brings, they add some character to it. I get performance is performance and looks don't make something perform, but I always go by looks first. Of course if it doesn't perform, I won't buy it. But I always pick a bunch of good looking things (regardless of what it is, cars, tools, everything). Then I compare and get the best performing that still has the looks I like.
Love my Milwaukee 3/8 stubby! I used it yesterday to put together a new welding cart. I accidentally had it on the high torque setting and punched the 10mm bolt right through the cheap sheet metal.
I have the 3/8 Milwaukee and I love that gun so much. How compact and light weight it is vs the power you get from it is amazing, it wasn’t too long ago battery tools weren’t worth the money vs air tools.
I knew someone would say this. lol. Yes, the Ridgid is a great tool as well. I didn't want to include it because it's an 18V tool. I included the Snap-On because I knew it couldn't even compete with these 12V tools. Thanks for watching.
The Rigid is a good tool and to a little cheaper than the others. I have only used the Dewalt a few times but it seemed okay. I prefer the M-12 since I have both the 6AH battery and the compact 3 AH Battery’s for it. I can squeeze the M-12 with the 3 AH compact battery into places the others can’t go and it has enough power for most jobs.
Bought the 3/8 stubby a few months back use it daily working on cars-trucks-vans it’s a wonderful little tool for the money and really suprised by it,guy i work with had no problem pulling the lugs off his 2500hd no effort for the m12
I've used the Dewalt 1/2in stubby daily (as I work in a independent shop). I've used that puppy to take off and put on medium duty and heavy duty wheels for over a year now. The other protective ring finally broke off literally today but still works just fine. I have the bigger dewalt for stubborn over tighten lugs, but the compact dewalt works everytime. I'm happy with my purchase.
I will agree that for some, Snap On is the only tool they will own. When I worked at dealerships and repair shops I normally kept a open account on the truck. Even some Mac and Matco at times. This is why Snap on and other tool trucks have them, credit. If I needed something and did not have the funds to just purchase outright, " just put this on my account " I do understand that times have changed but having that truck come to you every week and seeing all those new shiny tools, sometimes it is more than a man can resist. But as much as I am a fan of their hand tools, I would personally never buy this impact. As far as "fanboys" sure, everyone is a fan of something. Brand of truck, car, motorcycle, golf clubs, lawn mower, shoes, watches, battery powered tools, etc...... That and when I was in the business you really did not have a choice. Truck tools or Craftsman, anything else was Chinese crap. Yeah I know there were a couple other brands but you get my point. Now days I buy Tekton for the most part, mostly American made, best on line warranty I have found, fantastic quality and really good price for American made tools. Last point, PRIDE, for some of us, that tool box full of quality American made tools is as important as the truck we drive, the Hotrod we built or the guns in our safe.
@@bruceli9094 YES, I am a firm believer in buying American anytime I can. Yes it does cost a little more at times but personally it is well worth. I will support my brothers and sisters every chance I can. As far as Snap on is concerned, I personally do not know of any other brand that us better. Equal, possibly, but in the hand tool world they have always been the gold standard by which everything is compared to. Over priced, depends on your thought process. Buying Snap on, or any truck tool, is supporting American workers, small business ( truck owner) and a good one will take care of me, brings it to my door step. So fan boy it is I guess. But like I said Tekton is very impressive and they continue to make new tools and stop importing them. Again, supporting a American manufacturer. Lol, sorry for the soap box preaching.
Excellent video Tim, what always baffles me is surely Snap-on would test the impact wrench before general release to see how good it is? However, I suspect they just expect customers will just buy blindly as they already have the batteries etc
@@AKArtur18 iPhones are not bad! Do you own one? As far as phones go the overall experience of using an iPhone and it’s OS is much better than any android phone. Now for non phone devices the android experience is much better! I am a scientist but I also work as a developer in some capacity so I code for both android / ios and test on apple/android devices.
That's what we feel as well. Or, they're leaving a window open to buy their "more powerful" tool for tougher jobs. Not sure, but it was a bad choice. Thanks for watching.
I have the m12 stubby and love it. Dewalt is doing some big things lately. I'm on there 20v platform and I love what they're doing. I wonder if where these bolts are freshly torqued, if that's why they can break free bolts well over specs? I wonder if they sat for a while if they would be harder to break free?
I have the 12v dewalt one and it’s killer. I don’t really have to use it a whole bunch because I do body work but I bought it in a bundle with a 12v dewalt screw gun and I use it all day long with no issues
I'm pretty sure my even Kobalt impact driver would stomp this Snap On impact wrench in terms of torque, let alone speed, and it has an actual warranty.
Why don't you say the same thing when using it 6 days a week in a busy working on car after car. There's a reasons techs rock Snap-on, Matco, and Milwaukee and not a Kobalt or Bauer.
My dad gave me my first corded Dewalt drill 20yrs ago when I was 13yrs old. I’ve put that thing through hell and back and it’s still running strong if I ever use it. So Dewalt always held a sentimental value to me and was enough for me to choose that brand for the rest of my life, now with 50+ different Dewalt power tools they just keep getting better and better.
While watching the snap on perform the second test at 300lb I could see metal fragments flying around chuck portion of the impact!! I bet that a few more attempts would destroy the internals of the snap on. Harbor Freight tools are outperforming Snap On!!
100%. My only issue is that if you do more small engine ect work, its rarely a constraint with tool length. So snap ons paddle switch is a VERY nice tool. I don't have it...but i also figure i could just get milwaukees m12 impact driver put an adaptor deal and its a done deal.
I work in a injection molding factory and I have all of the dewalt brushless impacts and they're great! Our maintenance team is always coming to borrow them and we are trying to get the company to purchase either dewalt or Milwaukee impacts
Love this video I know it’s an old one but I actually just got my Milwaukee M12 1/2” stubby from the Matco truck yesterday after waiting almost a month for it and see this and what it can do makes me even happier with me purchase
Snap-on been around a long time, I still see the trucks parked. But the trucks always made me feel like frozen meat truck quality, then it looks it too. Never touched their power tools. But their awesome open ended ratchet type wrenches they use to make. Loved those.
The Snap-On looks like a brushed-drive tool Milwaukee would have made like 8+ years ago. Just way way behind. The insulting part is the price, but that's how Snap-On stays in business--by selling a tool that costs $29, for $365. There has to be a way to pay all the dealers ("tool truck guys") and middle men in between I guess. Terrible business model that worked up until like 10 years ago maybe, but not anymore, esp. when you can see differences like this in performance, price, and quality. It's crazy to think that Milwaukee tools themselves are arguably overpriced (though deals and sales can make them much better), but then the Snap-On racket is a whole other level of overpricing. Makes you wonder how much cheaper cars would be if stealerships weren't part of the equation...
@tripplefives Exactly, so quite similar to car dealerships. So they need to make their profit too, so Snap-On overcharges them, then they overcharge *you* to make a buck. Just a waste of time buying their stuff, esp. for a "regular person". If you're in an industry and are actually getting good prices on this stuff from whomever you're buying from, can be okay. Otherwise seems like a lot of what they sell these day is just second-rate overpriced stuff they charge huge $$$ for because of their name/history. Even for mechanics, etc., these days a lot are becoming wise to stuff like this and finding it better to buy tools you can buy online, buy from big-box stores, and other similar avenues; instead of off "the tool truck" so they can have some "pro lookin' name" with lacklustre performance and rack up debt from the $$$ they're spending. And if the dealers are putting themselves into debt that's basically everyone...except Snap-On who is laughing it up all the way to the bank.
I notice at 9:45 in the video that the snap on has sparks coming out of where the anvil goes into the socket which you don’t see on the m12 with the same socket. Not sure if it means anything but was just a small observation
There has got be something wrong with my milwaukee m12 cause it couldn't break my tire lugs free. Would do a video of the milwaukee m12 ½inch drive and what it can break away with an extension?
I have the Milwaukee M18 3/8” and 1/2” impacts and they are both great impacts no need for a stubby yet but I’m considering a 3/8 M12 ratchet …. Cordless tools have came a long way over the past few years and I own many Dewalt and Milwaukee seems my corded tools have become less and less
If you decide to go with a ratchet go with the Milwaukee high speed if you are going to be doing a lot of higher torqued bolts/nuts (and need speed in removal). The old large head fuel is junk in my opinion and the 3/8 brushed ratchet is awesome for things like 10mm & 12mm fasteners. It is the lightest of the bunch and preferred if not doing under-vehicle work. I run all of them on 2 amp hr batteries (auto wrecking work) and have been very pleased. I had broke a few of the non-fuel brushed 3/8s prior to buying the high speed ratchet. Milwaukee has a very good warranty and exchange policy. BTW I have Snap On ratchets as well. I really like their 1/4” but batteries, chargers, and misc things like covers and what not are way way overpriced.
Ive had my m12 3/8 for about 2 years i had the motor lock up about 2 months after u bought it. They fixed it and i got the same one back in perfect working order and not a single issue since. My snapon (brushed as the brushless wasnt out yet) would blow about 180 degree air on my hand making it very uncomfortable to use and wouldnt do a lot of stuff
I’ve been a Dewalt fan since graduating trade school. My impact guns are Mac Tools however. Their brushless equivalent is pretty pricey for what they offer, however all my Mac tools are running reliably almost 9 years later. Dewalt for the win
It kinda says a lot that a 2.5 year old design is keeping up with current tech from its competitors, imo. You decide if it's about the Dewalt lacking innovation, or the Milwaukee being ahead of its time 😅
Mac and DeWalt are the same. I have the 3/8 version of this DeWalt but it's red and says Mac. The shop has DeWalt and I use the shop battery when mine is low.
Although I don't have the specific tools tested, as a user of both Milwaukee and Dewalt I can say that I have also found that they have similar capability during mu uses.
450ft/lbs for a 3/8 is damn impressive regardless. Anything over is definitely mid torque territory. I may be pulling the trigger on some more M12 stuff after this lol
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
So at some point you tested the 3/8 inch drive Milwaukee M12 versus the 1/2-in drive Milwaukee M12, and the 3/8 drive out performed it. I would like to see the DeWalt 3/8 drive 12 volt compact versus the Milwaukee 3/8 drive M12 please. It would be interesting to see if the same thing happens with the Dewalt's 3/8" drive.
Just want to point out a few things by my own observation... at 10:00 you showed Snap On failing your 300 ft. torque test but it was in clockwise roation... also at both 9:15 and 11:00 you had 2 different tools also in clockwise rotation. I am not a skeptic, just trying to see a pattern. Maybe I am wrong, and the button for Snap On doesn't stick out as much? But I am not totally convinced Snap On bowed out at 300ft. lbs.
That's just how far the button sticks out in the CCW position. Does not look comfortable but I compared to some pictures online of the button being in both positions.
I’m not sure I understand. True, I am not taking the time to scroll through all the comments perhaps someone else has touched on this. He makes mention of a 32 mm socket and welding an adapter for the 3/8 drive for the Snap On. But the stubby Milwaukee gun has a 3/8 drive as well. I’m not sure what’s going on here. Can someone elaborate? Is it the fact that he stated the M 12 was two years old, and that version was available in a half inch drive? Because Milwaukee’s website now only lists a 3/8 drive for the M 12 stubby.
Bro me too love my stubby. I got the HS 3/8 ratchet as a gift recently and it's been a game changer for me especially while changing out rear struts top nutts on cars. Not sure why people complain about it not having enough torque when all you gotta do is give it a swing or running start to rip off fasteners SMH. It's a ratchet not and impact wrench with crazy speed and surprising power while running fasteners down LOL👍
@@johnny4713ify I used to have a regular M12 fuel ratchet and it had more power but the head on it was so much bigger than the high speed so I wasn't able to get into tight spaces
@@dominikkozela9763 Exactly why I was looking at picking up the HS before I was gifted it. I never liked the bulky head on the m12 for that reason alone.
I have a Snap-on 1/2" 18v lithium brushed gun, it's been a good tool and I'm happy with it. But I bought a M12 Milwaukee impact driver and drill because Snap-on asks too much for the same thing. So Snap-on bought this tool out recently so I asked for a demo. I walked up to a car in the workshop just a random one and tried to pull the wheel nuts and it failed. I said if it can't do that it's useless to me the Snap-on guy took his gun and walked out. It is a good idea because I already have their 18v batteries but if it can't pull wheel nuts off what good is it?
Great video, Tim! Love that DeWalt. I hope we see some new 20V XR impacts from team yellow soon as well, their current offerings aren't anything special. Big miss by Snap-On!
I hope so too! This is typical SBD. They are not innovators until they're forced to be. They'll let a model linger for 10-years, it seems. Once they make something, they tend to make it well, but they ride that same horse until it's long-past dead. Yes, I keep hoping Snap-On will get the hint at some point. Thanks for watching.
I have both the 3/8" and 1/2" Milwaukee fuel impacts, I've only used the 1/2" drive once, the 3/8 drive has been plenty for working on anything on a car with, I only use the 1/2" model on bolts 3/4 diameter and over because it will rip smaller things up if you aren't careful
This is exactly why all my Snap On stuff is headed for ebay and being replaced with Milwaukee. I've never bought any of it new (PRICE!) just when refurbs/secondhand have been on the truck and at a decent price which isn't really happening anymore in the current economic situation it seems...don't think you can beat Milwaukee for bang for buck really and the Dewalt was great too...
Isnt the auto remove on the milwaukee the strongest setting? At least on mine it is, if it doesnt take it off on 3 I put it on remove and it usually works.
Snap-On is so behind the times and yet still wayyy over priced with their battery powered impacts its insane, worse warranty too. Even their hand tools arent the same quality as these awesome Japanese high end tool companies are making now...its pretty sad but as a mechanic im going to buy what goes the furthest and performs the best for the price. Snap-On needs to wake up, they have too many old school fan boys tho happy to over pay.
@@mrwendell4564 Neiko is really good for the price. 7-19 both shallow and deep impact socket set for $40. Been using them at the tractor shop I work at and they’re great.
I run a 3/8ths Hercules 20v impact and a DCF899 and between the both of them theres nothing I cant do quick. The problem is getting any good tools where Im at. It would be nice if I didnt have to travel so far to get either tool
@Ben C it was in reverse i have this tool and the button doesn't sit flush in either direction but it noticeably protrudes on the side that isn't selected I'm not a fan boy I just have a sad tool collection I have all 3 of these machines and I can say the snap on sucks and the fact that its 3 times the price and 18v is frankly embarrassing
Awesome review I picked up the 3/8 stubby over the newer 18v compact and it's my go to workhorse, but I keep my Gen 2 1/2 midtorque as a backup when I come across fasteners it can't rip off. BTW Really surprised how small the Gen 2 midtorque was when I finally got it in my hands just a tad bigger than the stubby. Anyhow great test although it would have been funny if you still had the 3/8 stubby beat them all like it did when you battled the 1/2 and 3/8 stubby's not too long ago lol. Great video as usual 👍
@johnny4713 This is my question: if the mid torque is that much more powerful and barely larger, what's the advantage of the Stubby? And I'm glad you reiterated the point that the 3/8 is as powerful as the 1/2! Maybe someone needs to affix the Bosch Freak anvil to the M12 Stubby...
@@zorbaseatery4745 I wanted an impact wrench that I could get into tighter spaces than my older original M18 platform Gen 1 midtorque. The stubby fit the bill since I can use the torpedo style 2.0 battery instead of the 6.0 boot style battery and maneuver it in some pretty crazy positions. The first day I got the stubby I ran into that scenario while working on a Honda. I normally run it with the 6.0 boot style battery, but slapped in the 2.0 instead which gave me the extra clearance I needed. Being able to make the stubby footprint even smaller by switching batteries is the main advantage over any 12v or 18v platform even the new Matco 16V stubby that has a similar boot style battery, but not a torpedo style like the M12. Like others have said in his stubby battle video I do believe the 1/2 stubby may hit a bit harder than the 3/8 with the bigger anvil and using normal sockets on regular fasteners. The 3/8 socket he fabricated for testing in this vid and other videos has a bit more mass added so inturn creates more force kicking the 1/2 stubby's ass lol. I just got the 3/8 since I already had a 1/2 impact. I have no regrets the 3/8 is pretty strong and gets off the majority of car and truck fasteners the key is using it with a 4.0 or 6.0 battery's and deep impact sockets for that extra mass to get the most out of it. I also purchased the newer Gen 2 midtorque not too long ago, because again I wanted something smaller than my Gen 1 midtorque and boy I'm sure happy I did. Believe it or not you appreciate the weight and size when your wrenching underneath vehicles. I use the compact HO 3.0 battery with it when needed other than that the stubby is my go too. The Bosch Anvil would be pretty cool on a stubby👍. If I was to choose a first weekend warrior impact tool I'd get the new Gen 2 midtorque it's an all around great compact impact and has enough power to get most jobs done.
Yes, that Gen2 Mid is a beast of an impact, especially for the size. The stubby is still a bit smaller and quite a bit lighter. It's an easier tool to handle. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Agreed that is why the stubby is still my go too for sure. BTW will you be doing a review on the new Matco 16V stubby in the future that be cool. They claim 300 breakaway, but I still think the stubby has it beat when it comes to price and size being able to switch from the 4.0 and 6.0 boot looking batteries to the torpedo 3.0 for getting into super tight spaces👍
In my neck of the woods the milwaukee M12 stubby regularly goes on sale for $149 CA sometimes as bag kit for $249CA u get tool a 4mp and a 2 amp batteries with the charger.. So it's either DeWalt or Milwaukee. that snap-on makes absolutely no sense in any shape nor form even if someone already has a snap-on batteries and charger..
On the Torque Test Channel. They reported on there test that the 3/8 actually was stronger than 1/2 on the Milwaukee Impact wrench. Those 12 volt impact wrenches were pretty impressive though.
Exactly. I would like to see the 3/8 in DeWalt 12v compact versus the 3/8 in Milwaukee M12. Those of us who have seen that video, know that the 3/8 inch outperforms the 1/2" anvil.
There’s no way I’d ever buy a snap on cordless impact unless it was the micro 3/8… which was very handy due to its size…But when it comes to hand tools there’s no other brand I’d even consider buying. Which makes them an odd company.
Millwukee just said they are making a new small head design of the m12 ratchet . They don’t sell them yet but they had them announced officially . Look em up
Ouch! We feel your pain. And that's really our point with the pricing and performance. If they're going to make mechanics suffer in their wallets, then they better provide a performance monster. But, they don't! Thanks for watching.
That's why i try to rarely leave much on the account. Just bought their idk what it was 16 pc screwdriver set as i use screwdrivers in my new job CONSTANTLY. Plus dealing with rusty stuff which needs that perfect bite. Anyways, as it costs an arm and a leg...i pay off half one time half another. Should just pay it off really as i got the money just it hurts. Another problem....their promotions. I tell you what, i can get a jacket ( ''free'' ) if i ONLY buy another 400 dollars worth of stuff. Another being the key word.
Have used quite a few cordless tools over the years but the 12v dewalt is plenty powerful and fits my had like a glove! Own the 1/4 Mac Tools impact as well, both amazing tools 👍
The dewalt is good for the money but the Milwaukee still was a bit faster about it and it’s smaller .also a win for when you need compact .dewalt battery design looks stronger but also again more bulky .
I'm not surprised by the snap on when going into mechanic shops. I'm beginning to see Milwaukee, Dewalt, and some Makita that mechanics are using instead of snap on. Overpriced and less performance unbelievable.
As a new mechanic, I honestly don’t see the advantage to snap on anymore. Tekton produces high quality US made ratchets with life time warranty, 1-3 day shipping, real no hassle warranty processes. Their other tools are also all better than snap on and all carry life time warranty. The best part? Fraction of the cost. Milwaukee is the winner for impact wrenches, snap on can’t even coke close anymore and I honestly don’t know why you would go with snap on at all at this point. Everything they have is massively over priced
@@overlordgaming752 Guy at work has the 14.4 impacts the drills the ratchets the butane torches, the 18 or 20 volt big great gun the impacts and impacts. Everything. then like 5 lights, which i see him use ONE, which is a streamlight stylus pro, same one i got. The small drill he has is very nice, and i need one, but i can get a milwaukee kit with a drill impact 2 batterys charger bag for 250 Canadian pesos vs who knows how much and i get less performance less money in my wallet and near no warranty. Not to mention the truck comes bi weekly so...i can get stuff as quickly online.
@@SmokeyBear363 shipping is free, and warranty is literally 1-3 days. You sign up an account (which is free) and get free shipping in 1-3 days on all tools. If you bothered to research it you’d know that. Based on your brain dead response I’m guessing you don’t even own a ratchet to begin with though
My co worker just bought that exact snap on, not sure of what drive, but spent 1k for 2 batts and charger. I just bought my M12 1/2 stubby and happy with it. I feel bad for him. I do gotta say it is really smooth and nice. Would loved to have seen the M12 with the battery that came in the kit. Probably won't be as powerful but curious
Well maybe you should try a brand new snap impact instead of that old one from the the 90's! Just kidding, but seriously though snap on. Redesign your overpriced, ugly, weak electric tools.
Professional mechanic here, I quit buying Snap On cordless power tools many years ago. Not a big fan of DeWalt, I do have a small 12V Dewalt 3/8 drive great for dashboard work, but my cordless tool brand is Milwaukee M18.
My experience has been that Milwaukee has the absolute performance advantage however Dewalt generally has a little worse performance for less money. The $$$ per performance is very similar between Milwaukee and Dewalt.
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The air humidity in the room wasn’t at the proper percentage for the snap on to remove that 300 ft/lb bolt. Completely unfair test
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That's it! You called me out and have proven my rigging. I will never be able to recover. lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
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I like how he only has to make it clear with the snap on gun that it's on full power and full battery because he knows snap on fan boys will cry 🤣
The snap-on fan boys at my shop were calling my jh williams wrenches knock off snap-on. Little do they known jh williams makes all snap-on hand tools. Idiot based npc
@@PunisherOfDeath101 they don’t make all of their hand tools that’s a lie
That snapy looks super cheap an out dated..
Lol I agree
Hahahah trueeee. I can’t stand snap on fan boys
That m12 stubby is absolutely one of the best tools of the last few years. You’d have to be dumb to ignore it.
It's definitely a very handy and powerful tool. Thanks for watching.
Until you get ahold of that 12v DeWalt.
I bought the 3/8 drive stubby and I work on old rusty classic cars and that thing has saved me so much trouble vs using hand tools or trying to fit the 1/2 in m18 in a tight spot using a u joint. Definitely the best 180 bucks I’ve ever spent
@@iwillbnnedafterispeakwhy6498 it was a tie...?
@@Mastermindyoung14 exactly. It was a tie @ 450 ft-lbs, except the M12 more compact, has been on the market for years, and is part of a much more expansive platform.
I love my DeWalt 20V and 60V tools, but they slept on the 12V market and allowed Milwaukee to completely dominate that space.
You buy Milwaukee and Dewalt for your power tools. You buy your snap on for your hand tools if other brands don’t work for you. That’s my verdict
We would definitely agree with you. Thanks for watching.
I have split too many snap-on sockets where old craftsman did the job. I don’t suggest there sockets either. They make a fine pocket screwdriver!
I buy based on how fast i can get the tool replaced through warranty. Tools will break at any point in time but i might need it that day and that hour. So if HD and Husky or Pittsburgh and HF is closer thats where im going. Don't got time to wait for the truck to come back around.
@@Tj1983coggin i wouldnt buy any tool truck sockets. Completely unnecessary and just a high risk of lost money because u can drop them in the abyss or misplace them quite ez. Maybe torx id buy nice ones but the rest can be whatever. There is minimal difference
I also agree. Snap-on for hand tools and other brands for power tools.
There's a reason this former Snappy dealer swapped his personal power tools from Snap-on to Milwaukee! 😂 😂 😂
Yo a mrSubaru in the wild
Why?
@@billherzog5375 cuz they suck lol
@@billherzog5375 because he’s a Christian man who is morally opposed to stealing
A Snap On grifter
It's still amazing to me that a 3-year-old Milwaukee tool is kicking the crap out of a newer snap-on. I was a heavy equipment mechanic for 10 years before becoming a manufacturing maintenance technician and all of my battery tools are Milwaukee. They have never failed me. It's also really good to see that it won't. Tools are starting to be snap-on as well because for a while there Milwaukee was kind of ahead of the pack but maybe with more competitors passing up. Snap-on maybe they'll start making a better quality tool for their battery line
I think Milwaukee is a better quality tool and at a better price! You can't go wrong with Milwaukee! They're the ones I always purchase!
Both dewalt and milwaukee did well, but I gotta admit, m12 ftw, for its size and weight. After all, once you start working on bolts past 350, it's time to put the stubby compacts away and grab a mid torque.
You are exactly right and we preach this all the time. Just because these impact wrenches and even impact drivers are getting up in these crazy power numbers, you still need to use the right tool for the job. Great point! Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews surprised you even reply! Love the channel, the testing, and making it easier for us to enjoy this videos.
Apparently it’s not time to put the stubby away when a big snap on can’t do it.
To be fair. Sometimes you got to use what fits .
To be fair, that Milwaukee is rated for 250 ft lbs and it busted 450 with minimal struggle and the DeWalt rated for 400 struggled more to break 450 loose. That’s pretty impressive in my opinion.
You really did a great job with the fairness of the testing. Appreciate the work you put into this video. Thanks for the entertainment.
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Great to see Dewalt stwpping up their game.
If i was training to be a Mechanic i still would go Mil at this time.
Snap on wouldnt even get a look
We hear you, and you're correct. Thanks for watching.
Until the Mac, Matco and Snapon Truck shows up and offer financing, but do believe some of them do carry and sell some milwaukee power tools
@@raymondlong99 sure will, most tool trucks will get you whatever you'll buy. But Milwaukee is cheap enough to pay cash unlike a 600$ snap on impact
I have been a professional mechanic for 40 years. I was a Snap On fanboy for 35 of those years. Prices got so ridiculous and I grew weary of weekly
Payments for years on end.
I sold my Epiq, my SO power tools and impacts and went to ICON toolbox and Milwaukee power tools.
Not a single regret, no weekly bills, less expensive and better warranty.
Snap On dealer isn’t happy with me though, lol.
@@bigboreracing356 hehe found the true Strap On fanboi! Does it bother you to know that people everywhere are waking up to the Snap On Tool Company's oppressive pricing strategy? It's designed to keep idiots like you in perpetual debt. Enjoy paying more to effectively get less work done. It is great that a greedy American company can still make money off of stupid people who aren't in the know.
no way I'd give up my SO box for an Icon. Icon can't hold all my tools, they don't even fit in my 8 foot long SO. I've been buying Snap-on for 32 years so I own what I need. Probably won't buy too many more tools now. Most of my power tools are Dewalt.
@@arnodyck snap on guys make me cringe lol the mastercraft guys have more sense than snap on guys hahahaha
@@gorybonghit3211 poor people make me cringe
@@tacticaldorito3942 i own snap on ratchets, but usually use my fuller ratchets. not a big fan of the snap on ratchets. i only use them when i want to feel like a gangster. which is less often as i get older lol as for wrenches there are many good wrench brands just as good as snap on. a wrench can only be so good..
That's why Tim you're great, exposing the truth!!
Snap on makes great hand tools, impacts in the other hand forgetitbouit!!!!!
Snapon electric tools are good, but too expensive if the competition make more power for less money
You said it and thanks for the compliment. Thanks for watching.
@@baileyhatfield4273 exactly, they are just milking their logo and "herritage"
The only snap on electric impact I would buy again is my ct761 because of the rocker trigger
@@leolopez626 I hear they need work done often which is sad. If they lasted a long time the price could be reasonable. Atleast 5 years no issues. 10 for light use. Just doesnt work. Design? Awesome, power for that design?perfect. Just price warranty and reliability I guess
This was the first Milwaukee tool I owned after I asked my Father to get it for me a couple years ago as a birthday present. Now I have an addiction, I own the new M18 mid torque, 1/4 stubby, old 1/4 ratchet, new high speed 1/4 ratchet, extended reach 3/8 ratchet, hammer drill, and now the fuel screwdriver also.
I love Snap-On. I love their ratchets, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers etc
BUT THEY MUST DISCONTINUE THIS TOOL AT ONCE IF THEY WANT TO SAVE FACE
It's beyond meme level junk, it's *C R I N G E*
You would think they would do something about it. Supposedly their new CT9015 (1/2" drive of the same tool) is supposed to be 900 ft-lbs. We're trying to get one now, but it states "backordered" on the website. Why they would make the same tool with one to have 300 and the other to have 900 ft-lbs is beyond our comprehension. Thanks for watching.
It's a typo on the ct9015. It actually has 10 more ftlbs vs the ct9010. The ct8810 and 8815 was the same way and that's what the newer tools replaced. I have a 9015 and I 100% promise you its nowhere near 900ft lbs. The ct9075 specs was put on the 9015 page on the website.
Snap-on should not be making cordless power tools.
Snap on is way over priced
@@db3467 Facts! If they don't half their prices soon, they won't make it another decade.
Their biggest competitor is Amazon.
I expect Mac will fall first.
The snap-on looks like absolute garbage tbh. Even it's design looks more like something you'd order from wish for 20 bucks... And its performance seems to match as well :/
It’s trash regardless for the price, no one cares at that price point.
@Ben C I didnt notice that
However I have both and I can say the snap on is dog especially considering its 18v
Yea. I never understood why their power tools have such a crappy design. Looks super blah. You'd think, especially for the money and quality the name brings, they add some character to it. I get performance is performance and looks don't make something perform, but I always go by looks first. Of course if it doesn't perform, I won't buy it. But I always pick a bunch of good looking things (regardless of what it is, cars, tools, everything). Then I compare and get the best performing that still has the looks I like.
Know a lot of people that wasted money on them that's for sure
The snapon is still a very good looking tool
Love my Milwaukee 3/8 stubby! I used it yesterday to put together a new welding cart. I accidentally had it on the high torque setting and punched the 10mm bolt right through the cheap sheet metal.
I have the 3/8 Milwaukee and I love that gun so much. How compact and light weight it is vs the power you get from it is amazing, it wasn’t too long ago battery tools weren’t worth the money vs air tools.
My 3/8 has made me so much money
Have their M18 Frankenstein 1/2" and absolutely love it. Can't go wrong with Big Red
Thanks for the detailed testing. It would have been nice just to throw in that M12 3/8" for the rest of the test
I thought it was a very fair test and you gave all the tools equal chance to perform.
I appreciate that, and that's what we strive for. Thanks for watching.
Shoulda put a 12V battery in the snap-on
The humidity was a bit off though and it was Sunday so of course the Milwaukee won.
Home depot had the m12 stubby with a 2ah, 4ah, 6ah, and charger. All fpr $239. It's really hard to beat that!
That is a heck of a deal. Thanks for watching.
I bought 2sets but was $269
Dam I might have to swing over to Home Depot Saturday 👀👀
@@mrmartin7131 i bought it online free shipping 2nd day
I thought it was a VERY FAIR test. What I would like to see is the new Ridgid sub compact vs the same DeWalt and Milwaukee
I knew someone would say this. lol. Yes, the Ridgid is a great tool as well. I didn't want to include it because it's an 18V tool. I included the Snap-On because I knew it couldn't even compete with these 12V tools. Thanks for watching.
The Rigid is a good tool and to a little cheaper than the others. I have only used the Dewalt a few times but it seemed okay. I prefer the M-12 since I have both the 6AH battery and the compact 3 AH Battery’s for it. I can squeeze the M-12 with the 3 AH compact battery into places the others can’t go and it has enough power for most jobs.
Ridgid is made by TTI, makers of Milwaukee and Ryobi. Would likely slightly underperform the Milwaukee. Have M12 and Ryobi 18V. Best mix for money IMO
Bought the 3/8 stubby a few months back use it daily working on cars-trucks-vans it’s a wonderful little tool for the money and really suprised by it,guy i work with had no problem pulling the lugs off his 2500hd no effort for the m12
Can't argue with that. Get most of your work done with a small tool, then why carry heavy tools around?! Thanks for watching.
I've used the Dewalt 1/2in stubby daily (as I work in a independent shop). I've used that puppy to take off and put on medium duty and heavy duty wheels for over a year now. The other protective ring finally broke off literally today but still works just fine. I have the bigger dewalt for stubborn over tighten lugs, but the compact dewalt works everytime. I'm happy with my purchase.
Why does snap on even produce an impact?
Because fanboys will buy them
Because there are people out there who think owning only snap on makes them a great mechanic. It’s all about the image for them
I will agree that for some, Snap On is the only tool they will own. When I worked at dealerships and repair shops I normally kept a open account on the truck. Even some Mac and Matco at times. This is why Snap on and other tool trucks have them, credit. If I needed something and did not have the funds to just purchase outright, " just put this on my account "
I do understand that times have changed but having that truck come to you every week and seeing all those new shiny tools, sometimes it is more than a man can resist.
But as much as I am a fan of their hand tools, I would personally never buy this impact.
As far as "fanboys" sure, everyone is a fan of something. Brand of truck, car, motorcycle, golf clubs, lawn mower, shoes, watches, battery powered tools, etc......
That and when I was in the business you really did not have a choice. Truck tools or Craftsman, anything else was Chinese crap. Yeah I know there were a couple other brands but you get my point. Now days I buy Tekton for the most part, mostly American made, best on line warranty I have found, fantastic quality and really good price for American made tools.
Last point, PRIDE, for some of us, that tool box full of quality American made tools is as important as the truck we drive, the Hotrod we built or the guns in our safe.
@@randysmith9636 USA. The Best. 🇺🇸🥇❤
@@bruceli9094
YES, I am a firm believer in buying American anytime I can. Yes it does cost a little more at times but personally it is well worth. I will support my brothers and sisters every chance I can. As far as Snap on is concerned, I personally do not know of any other brand that us better. Equal, possibly, but in the hand tool world they have always been the gold standard by which everything is compared to. Over priced, depends on your thought process. Buying Snap on, or any truck tool, is supporting American workers, small business ( truck owner) and a good one will take care of me, brings it to my door step. So fan boy it is I guess.
But like I said Tekton is very impressive and they continue to make new tools and stop importing them. Again, supporting a American manufacturer.
Lol, sorry for the soap box preaching.
Excellent video Tim, what always baffles me is surely Snap-on would test the impact wrench before general release to see how good it is? However, I suspect they just expect customers will just buy blindly as they already have the batteries etc
Why would they? Fan boys will still buy it no matter what..
Snap-on tools are like a iPhone's. No matter how bad they are people still gonna buy it 😂
@@AKArtur18 iPhones are not bad! Do you own one? As far as phones go the overall experience of using an iPhone and it’s OS is much better than any android phone. Now for non phone devices the android experience is much better! I am a scientist but I also work as a developer in some capacity so I code for both android / ios and test on apple/android devices.
That's what we feel as well. Or, they're leaving a window open to buy their "more powerful" tool for tougher jobs. Not sure, but it was a bad choice. Thanks for watching.
@@harisjaved1379 you have to know you're lying about your iPhone take
That 12v dewalt 3/8 kit cost me $99 with batteries and a charger and it’s without a doubt my most used tool. Priceless
I'm a milwaukee guy and although they were really close I would say the dewalt seemed to go a tiny bit faster on the tighter ones
My M12 3/8 stubby is still working flawlessly 2 years later. Love it.
I love to hear that. Thanks for watching.
I have the m12 stubby and love it. Dewalt is doing some big things lately. I'm on there 20v platform and I love what they're doing. I wonder if where these bolts are freshly torqued, if that's why they can break free bolts well over specs? I wonder if they sat for a while if they would be harder to break free?
That Snap-On looks more of the size of the Milwaukee mid torque impact. For the same size tool in Milwaukee you get 650 ft-lbs torque.
M12 stubby did great when I worked on heavy duty trucks its by far the best 3/8 impact I've ever owned
I have the 12v dewalt one and it’s killer. I don’t really have to use it a whole bunch because I do body work but I bought it in a bundle with a 12v dewalt screw gun and I use it all day long with no issues
I'm pretty sure my even Kobalt impact driver would stomp this Snap On impact wrench in terms of torque, let alone speed, and it has an actual warranty.
That is very true on both accounts. Thanks for watching.
Why don't you say the same thing when using it 6 days a week in a busy working on car after car. There's a reasons techs rock Snap-on, Matco, and Milwaukee and not a Kobalt or Bauer.
@@jeremyjames7009 I don't know man where I work all the matco and snap on guns are just so underpowered compared to my m12
@@whoisstalin5683 my m18 is a goddamn monster 🤣 I use nut mode and it makes life easier
Thanks for the tests and for proving that Snap On is waaaay over priced and that you can buy better tools for waaaaay less $$$!
My dad gave me my first corded Dewalt drill 20yrs ago when I was 13yrs old. I’ve put that thing through hell and back and it’s still running strong if I ever use it. So Dewalt always held a sentimental value to me and was enough for me to choose that brand for the rest of my life, now with 50+ different Dewalt power tools they just keep getting better and better.
While watching the snap on perform the second test at 300lb I could see metal fragments flying around chuck portion of the impact!! I bet that a few more attempts would destroy the internals of the snap on. Harbor Freight tools are outperforming Snap On!!
True
All go with the Milwaukee stubby just because it has different modes, those different modes come in handy.
100%. My only issue is that if you do more small engine ect work, its rarely a constraint with tool length. So snap ons paddle switch is a VERY nice tool. I don't have it...but i also figure i could just get milwaukees m12 impact driver put an adaptor deal and its a done deal.
We see your point. Thanks for watching.
I work in a injection molding factory and I have all of the dewalt brushless impacts and they're great! Our maintenance team is always coming to borrow them and we are trying to get the company to purchase either dewalt or Milwaukee impacts
Tim... you always making great comparisons!!!
I will stay with dewalt since I have some Mac power tools.
Milwaukee is very tempting.
Just bought my m12 stubby in a 3/8 with a 2ah and a 4ah battery with charger and carry case for $230 off of Amazon! Best impact I’ve ever bought!
Snap on makes great (albeit overpriced) hand tools, but it’s time to hang their hat on power tools since it’s just sad at this point
Very true. Thanks for watching.
The only power tool worth getting from snap on are their battery ratchets. That’s honestly it
I don't think they even make their own power tools honestly. I think they just hand it off to some company in china, and slap their sticker on it lol.
Love this video I know it’s an old one but I actually just got my Milwaukee M12 1/2” stubby from the Matco truck yesterday after waiting almost a month for it and see this and what it can do makes me even happier with me purchase
The snap ons look so basic and prehistoric. They need to start stepping up their electric tools!
Snap-on been around a long time, I still see the trucks parked. But the trucks always made me feel like frozen meat truck quality, then it looks it too. Never touched their power tools. But their awesome open ended ratchet type wrenches they use to make. Loved those.
The Snap-On looks like a brushed-drive tool Milwaukee would have made like 8+ years ago. Just way way behind. The insulting part is the price, but that's how Snap-On stays in business--by selling a tool that costs $29, for $365. There has to be a way to pay all the dealers ("tool truck guys") and middle men in between I guess. Terrible business model that worked up until like 10 years ago maybe, but not anymore, esp. when you can see differences like this in performance, price, and quality.
It's crazy to think that Milwaukee tools themselves are arguably overpriced (though deals and sales can make them much better), but then the Snap-On racket is a whole other level of overpricing. Makes you wonder how much cheaper cars would be if stealerships weren't part of the equation...
@tripplefives Exactly, so quite similar to car dealerships. So they need to make their profit too, so Snap-On overcharges them, then they overcharge *you* to make a buck. Just a waste of time buying their stuff, esp. for a "regular person".
If you're in an industry and are actually getting good prices on this stuff from whomever you're buying from, can be okay. Otherwise seems like a lot of what they sell these day is just second-rate overpriced stuff they charge huge $$$ for because of their name/history.
Even for mechanics, etc., these days a lot are becoming wise to stuff like this and finding it better to buy tools you can buy online, buy from big-box stores, and other similar avenues; instead of off "the tool truck" so they can have some "pro lookin' name" with lacklustre performance and rack up debt from the $$$ they're spending. And if the dealers are putting themselves into debt that's basically everyone...except Snap-On who is laughing it up all the way to the bank.
Snap on won't last too much longer i predict especially with the economy going the way it is
I notice at 9:45 in the video that the snap on has sparks coming out of where the anvil goes into the socket which you don’t see on the m12 with the same socket. Not sure if it means anything but was just a small observation
Brother, you deserve 10x the subscribers you have currently based on the quality of the content. I'll add one more, at least.
I really appreciate that. Thanks for subbing and watching.
There has got be something wrong with my milwaukee m12 cause it couldn't break my tire lugs free. Would do a video of the milwaukee m12 ½inch drive and what it can break away with an extension?
Batteries brother. Try a different battery. Majority of the time that's the issue
@@darrenmartin307 ok I sent it back to where I ordered it from the guy supposed to be sending me different one
I have the Milwaukee M18 3/8” and 1/2” impacts and they are both great impacts no need for a stubby yet but I’m considering a 3/8 M12 ratchet …. Cordless tools have came a long way over the past few years and I own many Dewalt and Milwaukee seems my corded tools have become less and less
If you decide to go with a ratchet go with the Milwaukee high speed if you are going to be doing a lot of higher torqued bolts/nuts (and need speed in removal). The old large head fuel is junk in my opinion and the 3/8 brushed ratchet is awesome for things like 10mm & 12mm fasteners. It is the lightest of the bunch and preferred if not doing under-vehicle work. I run all of them on 2 amp hr batteries (auto wrecking work) and have been very pleased. I had broke a few of the non-fuel brushed 3/8s prior to buying the high speed ratchet. Milwaukee has a very good warranty and exchange policy.
BTW I have Snap On ratchets as well. I really like their 1/4” but batteries, chargers, and misc things like covers and what not are way way overpriced.
@@adeniyas
Yes the high speed is the only way I would go … thanks for your input
@@FredD63 go to project farms youtube channel you will find one that you like
Ive had my m12 3/8 for about 2 years i had the motor lock up about 2 months after u bought it. They fixed it and i got the same one back in perfect working order and not a single issue since. My snapon (brushed as the brushless wasnt out yet) would blow about 180 degree air on my hand making it very uncomfortable to use and wouldnt do a lot of stuff
I’ve been a Dewalt fan since graduating trade school. My impact guns are Mac Tools however. Their brushless equivalent is pretty pricey for what they offer, however all my Mac tools are running reliably almost 9 years later. Dewalt for the win
It kinda says a lot that a 2.5 year old design is keeping up with current tech from its competitors, imo. You decide if it's about the Dewalt lacking innovation, or the Milwaukee being ahead of its time 😅
Dewalt is trash
Don't you mean black and decker for the win!
Mac and DeWalt are the same.
I have the 3/8 version of this DeWalt but it's red and says Mac. The shop has DeWalt and I use the shop battery when mine is low.
For 30$ more you get 2 more years of warranty…I’m going Milwaukee also smallest and oldest of them
Although I don't have the specific tools tested, as a user of both Milwaukee and Dewalt I can say that I have also found that they have similar capability during mu uses.
450ft/lbs for a 3/8 is damn impressive regardless. Anything over is definitely mid torque territory. I may be pulling the trigger on some more M12 stuff after this lol
They're 1/2 inch.
Is that the absolute best model that dewalt has to offer? I’m looking to get one. I’d like the half inch impact but I want the strongest one.
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
So at some point you tested the 3/8 inch drive Milwaukee M12 versus the 1/2-in drive Milwaukee M12, and the 3/8 drive out performed it. I would like to see the DeWalt 3/8 drive 12 volt compact versus the Milwaukee 3/8 drive M12 please. It would be interesting to see if the same thing happens with the Dewalt's 3/8" drive.
Just impressive what these little guys do. I need to use my Milwaukee today actually.
You are correct, these little guys are definitely impressive. Thanks for watching.
Just want to point out a few things by my own observation... at 10:00 you showed Snap On failing your 300 ft. torque test but it was in clockwise roation... also at both 9:15 and 11:00 you had 2 different tools also in clockwise rotation. I am not a skeptic, just trying to see a pattern. Maybe I am wrong, and the button for Snap On doesn't stick out as much? But I am not totally convinced Snap On bowed out at 300ft. lbs.
That's just how far the button sticks out in the CCW position. Does not look comfortable but I compared to some pictures online of the button being in both positions.
I'd like to see at 475 foot pounds and see if there was a winner. But a 12V doing that work is awesome. I am team red but good jow yellow
I’m not sure I understand. True, I am not taking the time to scroll through all the comments perhaps someone else has touched on this.
He makes mention of a 32 mm socket and welding an adapter for the 3/8 drive for the Snap On. But the stubby Milwaukee gun has a 3/8 drive as well. I’m not sure what’s going on here.
Can someone elaborate?
Is it the fact that he stated the M 12 was two years old, and that version was available in a half inch drive? Because Milwaukee’s website now only lists a 3/8 drive for the M 12 stubby.
King stubby 👑 I absolutely love mine, I also have the new m18 mid torque which was able to undo everything so far and an m12 high speed ratchet
That's a very good setup. Thanks for watching.
Bro me too love my stubby. I got the HS 3/8 ratchet as a gift recently and it's been a game changer for me especially while changing out rear struts top nutts on cars. Not sure why people complain about it not having enough torque when all you gotta do is give it a swing or running start to rip off fasteners SMH. It's a ratchet not and impact wrench with crazy speed and surprising power while running fasteners down LOL👍
@@johnny4713ify I used to have a regular M12 fuel ratchet and it had more power but the head on it was so much bigger than the high speed so I wasn't able to get into tight spaces
@@dominikkozela9763 Exactly why I was looking at picking up the HS before I was gifted it. I never liked the bulky head on the m12 for that reason alone.
what was the LION tool that you were using to set the tightening torque?
I have a Snap-on 1/2" 18v lithium brushed gun, it's been a good tool and I'm happy with it. But I bought a M12 Milwaukee impact driver and drill because Snap-on asks too much for the same thing.
So Snap-on bought this tool out recently so I asked for a demo. I walked up to a car in the workshop just a random one and tried to pull the wheel nuts and it failed.
I said if it can't do that it's useless to me the Snap-on guy took his gun and walked out.
It is a good idea because I already have their 18v batteries but if it can't pull wheel nuts off what good is it?
Please do a presentation on the Snap On CT761A 14.4V 1/4" Hex Quick Change Cordless Impact Driver
Great video, Tim! Love that DeWalt. I hope we see some new 20V XR impacts from team yellow soon as well, their current offerings aren't anything special.
Big miss by Snap-On!
I hope so too! This is typical SBD. They are not innovators until they're forced to be. They'll let a model linger for 10-years, it seems. Once they make something, they tend to make it well, but they ride that same horse until it's long-past dead. Yes, I keep hoping Snap-On will get the hint at some point. Thanks for watching.
I have both the 3/8" and 1/2" Milwaukee fuel impacts, I've only used the 1/2" drive once, the 3/8 drive has been plenty for working on anything on a car with, I only use the 1/2" model on bolts 3/4 diameter and over because it will rip smaller things up if you aren't careful
Snap On sure has some generic boxy power tools. Looks like something Harbor Freight would sell
Even harbor freight line of impact tools look better than these smooth boxy looking things.
Lol I would buy harbor freight power tools over these Snap Ons. At least with those Harbor Freight tools you actually get what you pay for.
You are correct. I think the engineer took about 5 minutes to design this. Thanks for watching.
@@GuyFromJupiter yea you get trash bro
Wow, how embarrassing for Snap-on, I wouldn’t doubt Harbor Fright would beat Snap-on.
I did all of the suspension on my Jeep using an M12 stubby 1/2in drive gun. Honestly it's just impressive.
That Milwaukee and dewalt are incredible. Milwaukee’s smaller form factor wins tho.
Dewalt feels much better and balanced. I like both though.
@@AdamTMJester it won't do half of what it does here, with a 2 ah..and the dewalt was rocking a 5ah not a 6ah
It's definitely a tight race, but both tools are major performers. Snap-on, not so much.
Iv been a dewalt gut for ages but I think I'm going to get into milwaukee they have a great range of tools.
This is exactly why all my Snap On stuff is headed for ebay and being replaced with Milwaukee. I've never bought any of it new (PRICE!) just when refurbs/secondhand have been on the truck and at a decent price which isn't really happening anymore in the current economic situation it seems...don't think you can beat Milwaukee for bang for buck really and the Dewalt was great too...
@@Olds_Pwr just like everything else
@@Olds_Pwr bet you were a Donald fan...how much Snap On stuff do you think is made over there...
Isnt the auto remove on the milwaukee the strongest setting? At least on mine it is, if it doesnt take it off on 3 I put it on remove and it usually works.
Snap-On is so behind the times and yet still wayyy over priced with their battery powered impacts its insane, worse warranty too. Even their hand tools arent the same quality as these awesome Japanese high end tool companies are making now...its pretty sad but as a mechanic im going to buy what goes the furthest and performs the best for the price. Snap-On needs to wake up, they have too many old school fan boys tho happy to over pay.
Definitely agree.
Can you recommend to me the best Japanese ratchet and socket set
@@mrwendell4564 Neiko is really good for the price. 7-19 both shallow and deep impact socket set for $40. Been using them at the tractor shop I work at and they’re great.
@@zachherndon1724 nice, thanks. I'll look into that
@@mrwendell4564 No problem
I run a 3/8ths Hercules 20v impact and a DCF899 and between the both of them theres nothing I cant do quick.
The problem is getting any good tools where Im at. It would be nice if I didnt have to travel so far to get either tool
I Love How You Even Pulled Out The 4.0 Battery And Tightened It Even More Lmao
awwww yeah bro, been waiting for this one. Don't know why them snap on boys would cry, they get an extra 6 volts in lieu of the adapter
You said it, but I think they're crying over the dolla-bills leaving their wallet. Thanks for watching.
For being such an honest and good man, you just earned another sub.
Thank you very much. We do our best to bring the Truth in everything...but we're not always perfect. Thanks for watching.
"Before people say that the snap on broke it loose, let me re-torque it" *proceeds to not break loose* only to find out it wasn't loosening
@Ben C from what i can tell it was in reverse. look at 1:21 then 9:49
@Ben C it was in reverse i have this tool and the button doesn't sit flush in either direction but it noticeably protrudes on the side that isn't selected
I'm not a fan boy I just have a sad tool collection I have all 3 of these machines and I can say the snap on sucks and the fact that its 3 times the price and 18v is frankly embarrassing
is anything torqued over 450f/p? and can over 450 be broken loose with a breaker bar/ratchet?
Awesome review I picked up the 3/8 stubby over the newer 18v compact and it's my go to workhorse, but I keep my Gen 2 1/2 midtorque as a backup when I come across fasteners it can't rip off. BTW Really surprised how small the Gen 2 midtorque was when I finally got it in my hands just a tad bigger than the stubby. Anyhow great test although it would have been funny if you still had the 3/8 stubby beat them all like it did when you battled the 1/2 and 3/8 stubby's not too long ago lol. Great video as usual 👍
@johnny4713 This is my question:
if the mid torque is that much more powerful and barely larger, what's the advantage of the Stubby?
And I'm glad you reiterated the point that the 3/8 is as powerful as the 1/2!
Maybe someone needs to affix the Bosch Freak anvil to the M12 Stubby...
@@zorbaseatery4745 that would be awesome Milwaukee would kick but with that,
@@zorbaseatery4745 I wanted an impact wrench that I could get into tighter spaces than my older original M18 platform Gen 1 midtorque. The stubby fit the bill since I can use the torpedo style 2.0 battery instead of the 6.0 boot style battery and maneuver it in some pretty crazy positions. The first day I got the stubby I ran into that scenario while working on a Honda. I normally run it with the 6.0 boot style battery, but slapped in the 2.0 instead which gave me the extra clearance I needed. Being able to make the stubby footprint even smaller by switching batteries is the main advantage over any 12v or 18v platform even the new Matco 16V stubby that has a similar boot style battery, but not a torpedo style like the M12.
Like others have said in his stubby battle video I do believe the 1/2 stubby may hit a bit harder than the 3/8 with the bigger anvil and using normal sockets on regular fasteners. The 3/8 socket he fabricated for testing in this vid and other videos has a bit more mass added so inturn creates more force kicking the 1/2 stubby's ass lol. I just got the 3/8 since I already had a 1/2 impact. I have no regrets the 3/8 is pretty strong and gets off the majority of car and truck fasteners the key is using it with a 4.0 or 6.0 battery's and deep impact sockets for that extra mass to get the most out of it.
I also purchased the newer Gen 2 midtorque not too long ago, because again I wanted something smaller than my Gen 1 midtorque and boy I'm sure happy I did. Believe it or not you appreciate the weight and size when your wrenching underneath vehicles. I use the compact HO 3.0 battery with it when needed other than that the stubby is my go too.
The Bosch Anvil would be pretty cool on a stubby👍. If I was to choose a first weekend warrior impact tool I'd get the new Gen 2 midtorque it's an all around great compact impact and has enough power to get most jobs done.
Yes, that Gen2 Mid is a beast of an impact, especially for the size. The stubby is still a bit smaller and quite a bit lighter. It's an easier tool to handle. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Agreed that is why the stubby is still my go too for sure. BTW will you be doing a review on the new Matco 16V stubby in the future that be cool. They claim 300 breakaway, but I still think the stubby has it beat when it comes to price and size being able to switch from the 4.0 and 6.0 boot looking batteries to the torpedo 3.0 for getting into super tight spaces👍
In my neck of the woods the milwaukee M12 stubby regularly goes on sale for $149 CA sometimes as bag kit for $249CA u get tool a 4mp and a 2 amp batteries with the charger.. So it's either DeWalt or Milwaukee. that snap-on makes absolutely no sense in any shape nor form even if someone already has a snap-on batteries and charger..
I’ll stick to my Hart tools because I’m poor.. peace out - Michael DeSimone
On the Torque Test Channel. They reported on there test that the 3/8 actually was stronger than 1/2 on the Milwaukee Impact wrench. Those 12 volt impact wrenches were pretty impressive though.
Exactly. I would like to see the 3/8 in DeWalt 12v compact versus the 3/8 in Milwaukee M12. Those of us who have seen that video, know that the 3/8 inch outperforms the 1/2" anvil.
The snap on unit is embarrassing lol
All Snap On Tools are embarrassing! The arrogance of mechanics that will only use Snap shows their true stupidity! Lol
I wonder what kind of numbers the Dewalt can put down with those super slim 2.0 ah batteries. The dewalt batteries are thicker then the milwaukee ones
There’s no way I’d ever buy a snap on cordless impact unless it was the micro 3/8… which was very handy due to its size…But when it comes to hand tools there’s no other brand I’d even consider buying. Which makes them an odd company.
Millwukee just said they are making a new small head design of the m12 ratchet . They don’t sell them yet but they had them announced officially . Look em up
Great video man got a subscriber here! Loving that M12 still keeping up with dewalt even with the 2 + years of age.
snap-off tears every month when the statement shows up and 80% of the payment goes to interest on overpriced and over-hyped tools!!
Ouch! We feel your pain. And that's really our point with the pricing and performance. If they're going to make mechanics suffer in their wallets, then they better provide a performance monster. But, they don't! Thanks for watching.
100% agree, I could get a Milwaukee high torque and mid torque for the price of the ct9010
That's why i try to rarely leave much on the account. Just bought their idk what it was 16 pc screwdriver set as i use screwdrivers in my new job CONSTANTLY. Plus dealing with rusty stuff which needs that perfect bite. Anyways, as it costs an arm and a leg...i pay off half one time half another. Should just pay it off really as i got the money just it hurts. Another problem....their promotions. I tell you what, i can get a jacket ( ''free'' ) if i ONLY buy another 400 dollars worth of stuff. Another being the key word.
Please tell me more about that electrical torque machine your using 🙈
Have used quite a few cordless tools over the years but the 12v dewalt is plenty powerful and fits my had like a glove! Own the 1/4 Mac Tools impact as well, both amazing tools 👍
That Snap-On just looks anemic. I have that Milwaukee stubby that's a dang beast, I use it for removing wheel bearings with a hub press, it's AMAZING
The dewalt is good for the money but the Milwaukee still was a bit faster about it and it’s smaller .also a win for when you need compact .dewalt battery design looks stronger but also again more bulky .
Its bigger, but you can get smaller battery for dewalt, and milwaukee wasnt faster, the guy just was tightening it
On the second snap on bolt test the gun was set to tighten not loosen!
I'm not surprised by the snap on when going into mechanic shops. I'm beginning to see Milwaukee, Dewalt, and some Makita that mechanics are using instead of snap on. Overpriced and less performance unbelievable.
As a new mechanic, I honestly don’t see the advantage to snap on anymore. Tekton produces high quality US made ratchets with life time warranty, 1-3 day shipping, real no hassle warranty processes. Their other tools are also all better than snap on and all carry life time warranty. The best part? Fraction of the cost. Milwaukee is the winner for impact wrenches, snap on can’t even coke close anymore and I honestly don’t know why you would go with snap on at all at this point. Everything they have is massively over priced
@@overlordgaming752 Guy at work has the 14.4 impacts the drills the ratchets the butane torches, the 18 or 20 volt big great gun the impacts and impacts. Everything. then like 5 lights, which i see him use ONE, which is a streamlight stylus pro, same one i got. The small drill he has is very nice, and i need one, but i can get a milwaukee kit with a drill impact 2 batterys charger bag for 250 Canadian pesos vs who knows how much and i get less performance less money in my wallet and near no warranty. Not to mention the truck comes bi weekly so...i can get stuff as quickly online.
You said it. We see this more and more. Thanks for watching.
@@overlordgaming752pay shipping for tool warranties lol more like a 2 week turn around. Tekton is trash good only for garage diyers
@@SmokeyBear363 shipping is free, and warranty is literally 1-3 days. You sign up an account (which is free) and get free shipping in 1-3 days on all tools. If you bothered to research it you’d know that. Based on your brain dead response I’m guessing you don’t even own a ratchet to begin with though
I have an M12 stubby 3/8 and it will not take off 350, can anyone explain why? Maybe a defective gun?
Which battery are you running and exactly what type of fastener are you using it on?
@@Shoptoolreviews using a 6.0 and even trying it on wheel nuts, seems to struggle allot
Have you tested new matco 3/8 electric impact or Mac tools
Ryobi vs snap on who would win stay tune!
roybi and milwaukee belong to the same company call TTI group...
My co worker just bought that exact snap on, not sure of what drive, but spent 1k for 2 batts and charger. I just bought my M12 1/2 stubby and happy with it. I feel bad for him. I do gotta say it is really smooth and nice.
Would loved to have seen the M12 with the battery that came in the kit. Probably won't be as powerful but curious
Well maybe you should try a brand new snap impact instead of that old one from the the 90's!
Just kidding, but seriously though snap on. Redesign your overpriced, ugly, weak electric tools.
There's a lot of truth to that. lol. Thanks for watching.
Professional mechanic here, I quit buying Snap On cordless power tools many years ago. Not a big fan of DeWalt, I do have a small 12V Dewalt 3/8 drive great for dashboard work, but my cordless tool brand is Milwaukee M18.
My experience has been that Milwaukee has the absolute performance advantage however Dewalt generally has a little worse performance for less money.
The $$$ per performance is very similar between Milwaukee and Dewalt.
Yes, the performance is almost exact on these two impacts. Thanks for watching.