I agree but imo Rora > Chiquita baby monster songs have comfortable ranges for all the soprano members while Rora has a more comfortably deep voice. And Rora has smoother transitions than Chiquita and a bit more refined technique. I do agree that she sounds nasal why going higher but as an alto I also have that, bc when I try to go higher than I could naturally I sound nasal. I bias Asa so this is not a biased opinion. Both Chiquita’s and Rora’s emotions are so good that I would love seeing a Rora Chiquita sub unit though. I also really do agree with the fact that Ahyeon’s technique is unrefined and she should definitely not be doing those high notes and not strain her voice. I’m personally more a fan of rapper Ahyeon. But ofc that is my opinion
Queen Luna of course!👏 and damn, Taeyeon and Wendy used to be Proficient vocalists😔 they're still slaying of course, but hope they can keep working on their mixing and vowel shaping, openness. Also, the fact that Kpop still hasnt produced a vocalist on Wendy's level since her debut in 2014??🤯 some have come close, but still havent reached that Wendy prime, what a queen🥳👑 (well apart from Beak Yerin & Jaimee who also debuted in 2014, and 2015 I think)
@adjkshdj-mc7tw oh yeah!! Thanks for reminding me, I forgot about Nayul, YAS! Nayul is holding the fort down. But dang the amount of well-developed vocalists is just going down with each generation, and ppl are lowering their standards. About Wendy, i'm just wondering, like why wasnt she considered proficient? Thats been her tier for the longests time. So, i'm just wondering like who decided it wasnt and what were the reasonings? (If you know)
@@chrissyalapo-calg9748 Yh its sad how the vocal standard decreases. Well im not sure but i think wendy being P was a misvaluation/overestimation. I think P vocalists tend to have resonance which wendy has not or just in her best moments. Her quality, especially in her mix is very questionable and definitely not a P's. Maybe in pre-debut or debut era she was P or at least mid or high aa-p but she's been not a while definitely
@adjkshdj-mc7tw ok I see, thanks. Yeah, her resonance is not really there, she's had some rare moments though. Her head voice and lows are just so good though, it's only really her mix that she shows some problems which is unfortunate for being such a well developed vocalist. Oh well, I'm still very proud of her and her performances still surprise me🤩🔥
Uhmm why on Rose analysis is more highlights her weakness than her strength? No hate just ask, cause although Chiquita below Rose her strengths is more highlighted.
I have an opinion about vocal training and how it’s done especially in big three, I feel like they are giving their best vocalist very hard and high-pitched songs to cover or sing to impress other fandoms and CEO’s, like it’s some competition however what they should do is stick to the range they are confident in, and perform and sing in that kind of range whilst in practice teach them or expose them to different kind of ranges, low high or mid. So that once they excel in that certain range they are learning they can finally show to the world but they capable of instead of overworking them and competing them against people. They don’t want to compete, They just want to reach that for potential vocalist or not rapper or not dancer or not it’s still applies please can SM JYP and HYBE please understand.
Giselle singing is so strange to me idk how to say😭whenever she sings she sound so stuck and so quiet like in supernova still she can support many notes i think she is good at talking like the way she sang/talk in whiplash chorus just imo karina is much better than her as karina can actually do singing
@adjkshdj-mc7tw not really. Your mixed is the most used registry and people belt more than they use their head voice and lower registry. When you're singing you're mostly mixing so it make sense for the mixed to be more important. Yerin is pretty good technically she's just not that developed in all her registers which is fine. Dynamics, intonation,leogto and agility is fine. Also when you look at it yerin sounds better
@@Tsewang_Lachenpayou didn't even watch the video because all of those were mentioned. Half snsd literally have 'pitch problems' also versatility and tone are not vocal technique. Stop yapping
@Seunghancomebackhome It's you who need to re evaluate yourself! You judge someone's vocals by just listening to filtered vocals not raw vocals! Secondly you totally neglected other aspects of vocals like vocal projection, pitch, tone, diction, intonation, dynamics, rythmic, interpretation, vocal quality, versatile balance and blend! If you don't know what are these then you better learn about these!
So you can't read? Because half of those things i mentioned. Not to mention A lot of the the notes added above Sullyoon are live unedited clips. Including Joy and Lia.
It is so funny to say even after about 8 years of debut ,she hasn't shown her full potential .I agree that their songs are much mid range but she is very shallow even in it also Giselle hasn't showed her full potential
I dont think rora's belt is meh and she has pretty good vibratos.
The little personal comments is funny😭. 'Overhyped' like the rest. Giving haseul. Lol
I agree but imo Rora > Chiquita baby monster songs have comfortable ranges for all the soprano members while Rora has a more comfortably deep voice. And Rora has smoother transitions than Chiquita and a bit more refined technique. I do agree that she sounds nasal why going higher but as an alto I also have that, bc when I try to go higher than I could naturally I sound nasal. I bias Asa so this is not a biased opinion. Both Chiquita’s and Rora’s emotions are so good that I would love seeing a Rora Chiquita sub unit though. I also really do agree with the fact that Ahyeon’s technique is unrefined and she should definitely not be doing those high notes and not strain her voice. I’m personally more a fan of rapper Ahyeon.
But ofc that is my opinion
This video is gold. You worked a lot, congrats bc its really good💅💅
Glad you liked it!!
Queen Luna ate❤, but personally love Rose Rora voices
Queen Luna of course!👏 and damn, Taeyeon and Wendy used to be Proficient vocalists😔 they're still slaying of course, but hope they can keep working on their mixing and vowel shaping, openness. Also, the fact that Kpop still hasnt produced a vocalist on Wendy's level since her debut in 2014??🤯 some have come close, but still havent reached that Wendy prime, what a queen🥳👑 (well apart from Beak Yerin & Jaimee who also debuted in 2014, and 2015 I think)
wendy never was P, she hasnt regressed afaik
and nayul (4th gen)>wendy and im pretty sure that other 3rd gen vocalists can outding her
@adjkshdj-mc7tw oh yeah!! Thanks for reminding me, I forgot about Nayul, YAS! Nayul is holding the fort down. But dang the amount of well-developed vocalists is just going down with each generation, and ppl are lowering their standards.
About Wendy, i'm just wondering, like why wasnt she considered proficient? Thats been her tier for the longests time. So, i'm just wondering like who decided it wasnt and what were the reasonings? (If you know)
@@chrissyalapo-calg9748 Yh its sad how the vocal standard decreases.
Well im not sure but i think wendy being P was a misvaluation/overestimation. I think P vocalists tend to have resonance which wendy has not or just in her best moments. Her quality, especially in her mix is very questionable and definitely not a P's. Maybe in pre-debut or debut era she was P or at least mid or high aa-p but she's been not a while definitely
@adjkshdj-mc7tw ok I see, thanks. Yeah, her resonance is not really there, she's had some rare moments though. Her head voice and lows are just so good though, it's only really her mix that she shows some problems which is unfortunate for being such a well developed vocalist. Oh well, I'm still very proud of her and her performances still surprise me🤩🔥
The blue thing is blocking the last part of some paragraphs whatcha hiding Rina??
The "not there yet" and "Ok" eating tho😍
10:23 Ok that C5 is everything. I miss her resonance/fullness😭😭
“Giving Haseul” BYE 😂😂😂
Uhmm why on Rose analysis is more highlights her weakness than her strength? No hate just ask, cause although Chiquita below Rose her strengths is more highlighted.
no hate but winter entire sections has like 80-90% weakness.
We need a Jini comeback and more material. She is hella talented to be dropped😭😭
The covered parts?
mistakes or things that didn't make sense
You've did an perfect analysis here
But I think Rosé > Giselle
Also Ahyeon A3 - A4 is safe as her Bb4s supports are shallow and not that good
After i heard the rosies new song i agree with that.
What you judge by listening to processed vocals?
So funny!@@Seunghancomebackhome
So funny how you keep yapping yet you can't seem to read. Haters ganna hate n@@Tsewang_Lachenpa
@Seunghancomebackhome Girl not everything is about vocal techniques!
Thers way more than that!
@@Tsewang_Lachenpa that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. What do you mean vocals is not about vocal technique. Bitvh what?
Most waited youtube video
Luna mother.
I have an opinion about vocal training and how it’s done especially in big three, I feel like they are giving their best vocalist very hard and high-pitched songs to cover or sing to impress other fandoms and CEO’s, like it’s some competition however what they should do is stick to the range they are confident in, and perform and sing in that kind of
range whilst in practice teach them or expose them to different kind of ranges, low high or mid. So that once they excel in that certain range they are learning they can finally show to the world but they capable of instead of overworking them and competing them against people. They don’t want to compete, They just want to reach that for potential vocalist or not rapper or not dancer or not it’s still applies please can SM JYP and HYBE please understand.
do one for male idols too but nice video
ok
Chiquita>Ahyeon?? What a shame
Giselle singing is so strange to me idk how to say😭whenever she sings she sound so stuck and so quiet like in supernova still she can support many notes i think she is good at talking like the way she sang/talk in whiplash chorus just imo karina is much better than her as karina can actually do singing
she's not stuck she doesn't project her voice. Also listen to dopamine and other aespa bside
@@Thatsmyattitudeagreed
It's because that's what the vocal direction wants and no karina isn't better her singing isn't healthy in the long run
Not to hate on Chiquita but most of the "problems" OP stated about Rora are present with Chiquita.. So I am a bit confused with the ranking..
Idk if you watched the video but winter con's are longer than those below her. Also if you read you read better engagement and grip
Rora>Ahyeon>Chiquita
Rosé>Sullyoon>Rami>as anteriores
no✨
@@adjkshdj-mc7twsim
@@adjkshdj-mc7twsim
The first one is right but the second is wrong girl
@@mina_sharon_myoui nope chiquita has better technique than both rora and ahyeon
So Yerin is that high bc of her mix?
yes mixed+Belting is the only thing that matters💅🏻
@@Riizeis7burnsm kva is broken💅🏻
@adjkshdj-mc7tw not really. Your mixed is the most used registry and people belt more than they use their head voice and lower registry. When you're singing you're mostly mixing so it make sense for the mixed to be more important. Yerin is pretty good technically she's just not that developed in all her registers which is fine. Dynamics, intonation,leogto and agility is fine. Also when you look at it yerin sounds better
@@Riizeis7burnsmexactly she's all round good just not developed in her register
she's good in other aspect too. With good belting comes good technique.
Where would Krystal and Amber be placed?
Krystal would be in w-a.
@@yamatonadeshiko567 Both are both around rora and Chiquita
both are W-A. Amber around rora and chiquita. Krystal around Ahyeon levels
Both would be W-A
amber around chiquita. Kystral around ahyeon.
Aespa is this their current rank?
Ningning low A-AA?
Winter mid A?
Karina High W-A?
Giselle Mid W-A?
karina mid w-a
Joy is D- and Lia D. :)
Joy never was D- and Lia regressed
Rora is much better than Chiquita and Ayheon. She’s C- and literally the best with Rami.
With all that shallowness?
Where's vocal projection, pitch, tone, diction, intonation, dynamics rythmic interpretation, vocal quality, versatile, balance and blend?@@Seunghancomebackhome
@@Tsewang_Lachenpaversatile, tone🧠🤣tf you metioned that lmao
@@Tsewang_Lachenpayou didn't even watch the video because all of those were mentioned. Half snsd literally have 'pitch problems' also versatility and tone are not vocal technique. Stop yapping
If a professional vocalist sees this he/she would be traumatized!
Then they need to re evaluate themselves
@Seunghancomebackhome It's you who need to re evaluate yourself!
You judge someone's vocals by just listening to filtered vocals not raw vocals!
Secondly you totally neglected other aspects of vocals like vocal projection, pitch, tone, diction, intonation, dynamics, rythmic, interpretation, vocal quality, versatile balance and blend!
If you don't know what are these then you better learn about these!
So you can't read? Because half of those things i mentioned. Not to mention A lot of the the notes added above Sullyoon are live unedited clips. Including Joy and Lia.
Source : trust me me bro 💀😂
as opposed to source 'in my dreams'
dont insult when you lack knowledge and she worked so hard for this video
Literally Rosé is C- and much better than Giselle (and maybe Karina) (no hate to both) we never see her full potential.
We never saw her full potential so she is C- ? That's a nonsense
huh? With all that shallowness?
It is so funny to say even after about 8 years of debut ,she hasn't shown her full potential .I agree that their songs are much mid range but she is very shallow even in it also Giselle hasn't showed her full potential
Girlie has no idea about what a developed register is😂 this kinda misinformation is why we can never trust kpop fans these days
And what is a developed register?
Because miss girl is speaking in terms of support not whether they can do it. Stop being a hater
which part is misinformation enlighten us
imagine speaking and you don't even know what development is🥱 you're a joke
Then what is a developed registry. Because its not being able to do or using your falsetto over it.
you're lowkey funny