I think its not just a gimmick, but a way to use trademark protection laws to protect the keyway and prohibit duplication. Normally, restricted keyways are using patent laws, but they usually have a timelimit of 20 years and then the patent expires. And patents are expensive to renew too. By using trademark protection instead (by incorporating the ABUS logo into the keyway), they can have the protection active indefinitely (until Abus company disappear) and they only have to register and pay protection once.
Sebastian Nielsen You are right. Many companies use ® keyways. DOM RS SIGMA and EVVA EPS-M show DOM and EVVA, some others have just trademarked an already existing keyway to extend protection beyond the patent's 20 years. Those show some zigzag-graphics® on the bow and most often it's mentioned in catalogs and on websites.
That is what the manufacturers claim and looks interesting in theory, but I believe it's just a marketing gimmick. In practice it should be very ineffective, as it is trivially easy to create a non-infringing key that adequately fits the keyway. For example, a hypothetical trademarked "XXM" keyway could fit a "\/V" profile key. Besides that, at least in my country, I'm not sure a trademarked keyway would be easy to defend in court. And let's not give printer manufacturers this idea, otherwise we will start seeing "HP" or "EPSON" shaped ink cartridges!
José Tudela de la Rosa Missing parts of a keyway can be detected, so if some patented (e.g. GEGE pExtra) or trademarked part of the cross section is missing, the cylinder is blocked. This is achieved using an extra pin or some other element (e.g. EVVA EPS). Epson and HP put to much effort into protecting their ink cartridges instead of improving their ink recipes...
Interesting. As far as I know, trademark law generally prohibits using them to protect functional elements of a device, though I guess they might be hoping no-one has the cash to fight it in court.
I just bought 20 of these locks for my vending business. I’d like to mention that you made a mistake when you said that you flip the piece over to change from key retention to not retaining. That piece actually needs to be removed to make it not key retaining. If you just flip it over overtime stops the lock for actually locking and allows you to remove the shackle. Great video though.
R.P. Rosen Every cylinder needs to be turned to a certain point, so that the key can be removed. The Z-Bar prevents the cylinder from turning to the point needed to remove the key. You will need to close the shackle and then you can remove the key.
You don't have anything to worry about, he makes the difficult appear easy. He's very skilled or just 'cherry-picking' locks he's previously picked, but I doubt it.
You have really fired up something in me with these videos, each of these locks is like the prefect little puzzle, i'm taking locks apart all the time now and find them fascinating. I might even get a locksmith certification to make some money out of it also, thanks for these great videos
Sure, get a locksmith license and anyone with a safe and need the opening password, just call in the registration number from the front o f the safe if the person was not warned by the seller, and they will give a bypass code to a locksmith. Easy pickings there. Of course it could be used for good but seems that the population now adays finds theft to be a worthy career. Why work when your neighbor is working for you, I am feeding several single adults some of whom have felony records.
The pinning made this lock easier than usual. I've found that high-low bittings with this keyway can get tough because the tip of your pick has to fit into the left hand side of the "A" of the keyway, which is pretty tight and not easy to get into with wider picks. Either way, great pick!
I rekeyed a 83cs with one of these and after requesting a difficult bitting for pick resistance he sent me a much different bitting than shown here, some very low some very high... Nice to see spools and serrated pins in these too $15 is not too bad for these restricted cylinders at least most thieves shouldn't have a bump key handy
I just ordered one. It'll be my first lock,out of a dozen, that will have security pins. I've been picking for about 6 months now, and I really have a good feel for it now. In fact, I do it at night, in bed, with my eyes closed. It's surprising how much you rely on feel and not on visual.
Another great video...However, would it have been more dificult if it had been keyed more aggressively? With extreme highs and lows?( i noticed that most pins were at *about* the same heihgt)
You've said in at least two videos that the conversion from key retaining to non-retaining is flipping the Z-bar. That is incorrect. The documentation states to only insert it black dot up and to remove it for non-retaining function. When flipped it can cause unintentional ejection of the shackle and potential loss of its ball bearing and/or spring. I learned this the hard way reversing it in my first 83 series.
It seems the z bar is to be removed for non key retaining feature, if you flip the z bar over so the black dot faces down, it is used for shackle replacement...
Correction about the Z bar. If you remove the Z bar then the lock is in the non-key retaining mode. However with the black dot facing down you are in the shackle replacement mode to remove the shackle from the lock body.
What was with the long slot inside the lock cylinder? Would the manufacturer want to insert the pins through the side of the assembled lock? BTW: Nice to see you picking a lock that fights back.
Just re-watched this video and heard you say that when you place the Z-Bar with the black dot facing down the lock is non-key retaining. I think i've corrected you before, but with the Z-bar in that configuration you can turn the key and completely remove the shackle. For non-key retaining just take the z-bar right off.
Lovely looking lock, the colour is realy nice. I find the number one pin in most of my abus locks i have picked picks very much the same ie you get the false set then its pretty much pin to pin to the back to open the lock along with the number one normally resetting due to the spools. Do you recognise this pattern ? I aldo find ecen the small brass 40mm without removable cores still challenging sometimes. Great pick and video, the keyway wall really cool.
Hm .. seems like those spools were engaging well, based on how you were picking it .. but those key pins are pretty long .. can you sometimes show key pins in the core with key out better ? As in 4:20. It seems like 1 was quite deep, but that one had serrated pin. 2 and 6 looks somewhat able to hold a bit of spool .. and 3, 4 and 5 too shallow to do anything.
Hi. When you're going back thru the pins in the false set what are you feeling on those other driver pins that lets you know they're still set ok? Is it that you can feel there is no 'weight' or push back from the springs above? If im way off the mark apologies, only watching and learning a few weeks now🙂 thats a cool looking lock! Thanks for the vid👍
I repinned that very same abus cylinder with chess pins. The problem was when reinstalling the core, a driver pin shot into the construction pin hole and now I have a $25 paper weight. Any advice would be amazing. Shims don't seem to work.
I have the same padlock, but without the big entrance staying ABUS, mine is very tight to navigate, and so far I haven't been able to pick it because it is so tight inside that the pick gets stuck, I need to make the pick a bit thinner.
The reason why it spells out ABUS is because it's a trademark, trademarks don't expire unlike patents, patented keys have a set time limit before the keys can be copied by a 3rd party, however, trademarks are indefinite therefore illegal to copy, now and in the future. CES were the first to do it to my knowledge.
sir thanks for very informative show. can you tell me where a can buy security style key pins. I have plenty of driver pins that are security pins. I can't find the security key pins. I lost my arm and have no way to make them. thank you for your show a will always leave a comment as I am a subscriber.
+Kerry Huston I'm not sure I know where to get security key pins. The only factory examples that come to mind offhand are the ones that come in American Lock pinning kits, but they only fit in the mini cylinders found in many padlocks.
Hey LPL I'm an incredibly passionate hobbyist lock picker and while I do love the "sport" if that's what you want to call it my lock picking abilities are rather terrible I can only really pick basic locks do you have any tips for developing your skills?
Thanks it doesn't help that for a beginner I'm trying to pick locks far too advanced for someone of my level locks like the Lockwood 334S45 and the Abus Titalium 64/50
I swear every video I've watched you sound just like the guy that used to MREs I think his name is like Steve something I think you're the same guy your voices are so identical
+The Lock Picking Lebowski Hows that lock treating you? Is it just me, or do these 888 cylinders seem to have much better tolerances than other 83 series cores?
LockPickingLawyer Please check Twitter notifications regarding comparison. I can say this: the tolerances are quite impressive! The spring tension on the core is very strong. I'll take a better look at my core and tolerances today. I am going to file the end of my key so it lines up with the dimple on the keyhole. I was surprised to learn that it doesn't line up and makes for a fumbly insertion. I don't think I'm skilled enough to pick it with my current selection of picks. The cuts are so high that I can't seem to get any pick tips up through the warding. I'll keep trying though. But I really would like to consult with you before I create my next order for Peterson and Sparrows. SouthOrd was okay for my first 3 years of picking on the cheap. But after recently using decent custom picks, I can confirm that an investment into quality tools is now warranted.
@LockPickingLawyer So Im just a regular guy whose lock opening experience basically boils down to having the key....or choosing the correct hammer lol... I have watched alot of your videos and gather that basically no lock is pick proof. Is that accurate? I mean.. Can a decent picker really open any lock in just a few short moments?
Chris Ahrens LHG it acts as an interlock, preventing you from turning the core when the shackle is open, this means the key pins can't move since they're held on the shear line by the cylinder wall . If you remove it, you can rotate the core back in line with the bible, and the key can be removed, since the key pins can push the drivers up . The advantage is that you can make sure people have to lock it back up (on the hasp ideally) after they open it up, or have to carry it around on their key chain until they're done - very useful if it's on a communal gate for instance :)
2LeftThumbs but LPL wasn't removing it he just flipped it. to change retaining from non-retaining. I'm sure it's how the z bar interacts with the lock but I can't see it
Chris Ahrens LHG ah, OK, I haven't tried flipping it personally, just removing it it isn't symmetric though, like a Z or 2 with the black dot up and an S or 5 with black dot down. so it catches like a ratchet in a pawl one way, but not the other I guess :)
Chris Ahrens LHG if LPL doesn't come up with a video, I'll see if I can put one together ( might be that an animation would be better, so that'll probably take a while for me :) ) I did flip the bar accidentally once and couldn't actually reassemble the lock, I'll check if it is meant to be flipped...
Jusb1066 - I totally agree. Not only are many common US padlocks vulnerable to destructive attacks, but the hasps themselves are just as cheesy. A three-foot crowbar will pop most of them right off the door frame -- by pulling the small screws that come with them right out of the wood. You can make that better by using bolts or machine screws that go right through to the inside and backing them up with a metal plate ... but then the hasp itself can be attacked, too. There's really very little one can do against a determined and resourceful thief. Besides, to me, lockpicking is just for fun.
I ordered an Abus 83al-ic/40 and it didnt come with the core because i wasnt paying attention when i ordered. could you point me in the direction to get a core for it and possibly a tutorial on how to install it?? thanks in advance if you happen to see this,
Achromatic you need any standard SFIC core to go in the 83IC. Check eBay. Should come with an operating key and a second key to install or remove the core from the lock.
It's maybe quicker to type "titalium" into google than to type your (valid) question - it's a trademark they're using for an aluminium alloy (aluminum if you're in the USA of course), I guess they're hoping to imply that it's kinda titanium-like... First hit I get is this www.abus.com/uk/Home-Security/Padlocks/TITALIUM , but I've got to confess that I've had the same curiosity in the past and my previous searches may reflect my current search outcomes :)
According to a number of his other videos, he made it himself. Tons of people ask this and seem to want one...maybe he should come up w/ a business plan?
Not a pro, but you have to release tension on spools and could loose a set lock. It doesn't effect LPL so much since he's a pro. As far as serrated pins, I think if you have something to catch they make it difficult to move them under tension and throw off your feel. I'm kind of guessing.
I have seen a few key-retaining padlocks at work... you insert the key, turn to open the lock, key will stay in turned position and not be removable. You also will not be able to turn the key back to neutral until you lock it back up. Forces the user to re-lock the lock in order to get his/her key back.
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I think its not just a gimmick, but a way to use trademark protection laws to protect the keyway and prohibit duplication. Normally, restricted keyways are using patent laws, but they usually have a timelimit of 20 years and then the patent expires. And patents are expensive to renew too. By using trademark protection instead (by incorporating the ABUS logo into the keyway), they can have the protection active indefinitely (until Abus company disappear) and they only have to register and pay protection once.
+Sebastian Nielsen Interesting. Thanks for explaining.
Sebastian Nielsen You are right. Many companies use ® keyways. DOM RS SIGMA and EVVA EPS-M show DOM and EVVA, some others have just trademarked an already existing keyway to extend protection beyond the patent's 20 years. Those show some zigzag-graphics® on the bow and most often it's mentioned in catalogs and on websites.
That is what the manufacturers claim and looks interesting in theory, but I believe it's just a marketing gimmick. In practice it should be very ineffective, as it is trivially easy to create a non-infringing key that adequately fits the keyway. For example, a hypothetical trademarked "XXM" keyway could fit a "\/V" profile key. Besides that, at least in my country, I'm not sure a trademarked keyway would be easy to defend in court.
And let's not give printer manufacturers this idea, otherwise we will start seeing "HP" or "EPSON" shaped ink cartridges!
José Tudela de la Rosa Missing parts of a keyway can be detected, so if some patented (e.g. GEGE pExtra) or trademarked part of the cross section is missing, the cylinder is blocked. This is achieved using an extra pin or some other element (e.g. EVVA EPS).
Epson and HP put to much effort into protecting their ink cartridges instead of improving their ink recipes...
Interesting. As far as I know, trademark law generally prohibits using them to protect functional elements of a device, though I guess they might be hoping no-one has the cash to fight it in court.
That blue finish on that lock is gorgeous. I need my car painted that color.
It’s anodisation. Cars are not coloured like that
First, get a car made in completely aluminum body panels. Then anodize them blue.
@@JasperJanssen ford f150? Or did they give up on that already..
Vinyl wrap in chrome blue.
''Not sure whats holding us up now''
Me: sold
No kidding. I'm replacing all my padlocks now.
I just bought 20 of these locks for my vending business. I’d like to mention that you made a mistake when you said that you flip the piece over to change from key retention to not retaining. That piece actually needs to be removed to make it not key retaining. If you just flip it over overtime stops the lock for actually locking and allows you to remove the shackle. Great video though.
You are certainly a wealth of information. Perhaps in the future you can explain or show how ... the key retention works.
R.P. Rosen Every cylinder needs to be turned to a certain point, so that the key can be removed. The Z-Bar prevents the cylinder from turning to the point needed to remove the key. You will need to close the shackle and then you can remove the key.
Watch Bosnian Bill
i have an Abus 83/45 and it has a removable z-bar for key retention
but mine has the 300 keyhole
I would still buy one of these locks! I say that because it gave him a tad bit of trouble and it looks kinda mean.
Uneedhelp91 this guy is crazy good plus he has every tool that there is I’d buy it lol. Any lock that binds him up for a second is a good lock lol
There is always some protection by having a lock and keyway that most lock pickers haven't seen before. Often the just move on to a lock they know.
LPL has ruined locks for me forever
You don't have anything to worry about, he makes the difficult appear easy. He's very skilled or just 'cherry-picking' locks he's previously picked, but I doubt it.
Get an Abus 37rk/80 or Abloy 362 then
I had a similar feeling lol
Not me, the guys this good at picking typically aren't the people stealing your crap.
@@juanbaclavab He pick's those Abus plus cores pretty easy too lol. But you can easily get your own core that LPL couldn't pick.
You have really fired up something in me with these videos, each of these locks is like the prefect little puzzle, i'm taking locks apart all the time now and find them fascinating. I might even get a locksmith certification to make some money out of it also, thanks for these great videos
Sure, get a locksmith license and anyone with a safe and need the opening password, just call in the registration number from the front o f the safe if the person was not warned by the seller, and they will give a bypass code to a locksmith. Easy pickings there. Of course it could be used for good but seems that the population now adays finds theft to be a worthy career. Why work when your neighbor is working for you, I am feeding several single adults some of whom have felony records.
I was wondering why your voice was so soothing. You sound just like Mr Rogers!!!
The pinning made this lock easier than usual. I've found that high-low bittings with this keyway can get tough because the tip of your pick has to fit into the left hand side of the "A" of the keyway, which is pretty tight and not easy to get into with wider picks. Either way, great pick!
I love how it spells out Abus, that's so cool!
I now have a handful of these cores, they are super fun to play with!!
This one excellent IMO, because you said "not sure what's holding us now"
I didn't hesitate to subscribe , fascinating , thank you for a different commute home cheers from Western Sydney .
I rekeyed a 83cs with one of these and after requesting a difficult bitting for pick resistance he sent me a much different bitting than shown here, some very low some very high... Nice to see spools and serrated pins in these too
$15 is not too bad for these restricted cylinders at least most thieves shouldn't have a bump key handy
I thought putting in the z-bar backwards made the hasps pop off these locks? Removing the bar made them non key retaining.
That was a nice picking - glad to see you working just a little bit for and opening ;-)
Very nice little lock :-) nice to see that it can be used for construction keying too
I just ordered one.
It'll be my first lock,out of a dozen, that will have security pins. I've been picking for about 6 months now, and I really have a good feel for it now. In fact, I do it at night, in bed, with my eyes closed. It's surprising how much you rely on feel and not on visual.
I can feel a dentist messing with my teeth when I watch these videos
That's a nice lock 🔐 you have there, it would be a shame if someone dismantled it.
Nice! Looks like a contender to have a crack at. Keen to check the feel versus the average 83AL/45.
That is really neat. I would use that just to have a lock with the name in the keyway! :)
Great picking as always brother and thanks for the review
That's a nice looking lock. Great picking LPL.
LPL, please never retire from creating UA-cam videos.
Another great video...However, would it have been more dificult if it had been keyed more aggressively? With extreme highs and lows?( i noticed that most pins were at *about* the same heihgt)
You didn't mention the "rekeying window" that allows these to be repinned without a follower or pulling the plug.
What's special about that lock is it's color. Absolutely stunning imo
With all the key pins being nearly the same size it looks like you could rake it easily.
You've said in at least two videos that the conversion from key retaining to non-retaining is flipping the Z-bar. That is incorrect. The documentation states to only insert it black dot up and to remove it for non-retaining function. When flipped it can cause unintentional ejection of the shackle and potential loss of its ball bearing and/or spring. I learned this the hard way reversing it in my first 83 series.
It seems the z bar is to be removed for non key retaining feature, if you flip the z bar over so the black dot faces down, it is used for shackle replacement...
would be cool to see inside one of those bank deposit box locks and to know whether they are pickable or not.
I'd like to see you pick more locks without the key and more challenge locks
Excellent, as always.
Correction about the Z bar. If you remove the Z bar then the lock is in the non-key retaining mode. However with the black dot facing down you are in the shackle replacement mode to remove the shackle from the lock body.
great job, love that keyway!
This guy is good.
Nice pick and gut. Great video very interesting and informative.
Love your Videos!
What was with the long slot inside the lock cylinder? Would the manufacturer want to insert the pins through the side of the assembled lock?
BTW: Nice to see you picking a lock that fights back.
Just re-watched this video and heard you say that when you place the Z-Bar with the black dot facing down the lock is non-key retaining. I think i've corrected you before, but with the Z-bar in that configuration you can turn the key and completely remove the shackle. For non-key retaining just take the z-bar right off.
Lovely looking lock, the colour is realy nice. I find the number one pin in most of my abus locks i have picked picks very much the same ie you get the false set then its pretty much pin to pin to the back to open the lock along with the number one normally resetting due to the spools. Do you recognise this pattern ? I aldo find ecen the small brass 40mm without removable cores still challenging sometimes.
Great pick and video, the keyway wall really cool.
Yes... but you may also need to set some of the deep cuts before you get a false set.
Would be nice to have some decent bitting . Looks like a bump key lol
He has a matching screwdriver
Is there money to be made as a Locksmith? Just wondering if it was worth doing as a side business.
If they want to make it interesting add a couple of 90 degree turns in the keyway, that would get my attention.
very nice well explained LPL. THANKS FOR SHARING 😎😎😎😎😎
Hm .. seems like those spools were engaging well, based on how you were picking it .. but those key pins are pretty long .. can you sometimes show key pins in the core with key out better ? As in 4:20. It seems like 1 was quite deep, but that one had serrated pin. 2 and 6 looks somewhat able to hold a bit of spool .. and 3, 4 and 5 too shallow to do anything.
Excellent observation, seems to make the security pins ... pointless.
The bitting on that key looks pretty friggin easy
Hi. When you're going back thru the pins in the false set what are you feeling on those other driver pins that lets you know they're still set ok? Is it that you can feel there is no 'weight' or push back from the springs above? If im way off the mark apologies, only watching and learning a few weeks now🙂 thats a cool looking lock! Thanks for the vid👍
It's a bit of cheating, to see the key while picking ;-) Love you
I would love to see you do this with a translucent lock.
I repinned that very same abus cylinder with chess pins. The problem was when reinstalling the core, a driver pin shot into the construction pin hole and now I have a $25 paper weight. Any advice would be amazing. Shims don't seem to work.
I have the same padlock, but without the big entrance staying ABUS, mine is very tight to navigate, and so far I haven't been able to pick it because it is so tight inside that the pick gets stuck, I need to make the pick a bit thinner.
The reason why it spells out ABUS is because it's a trademark, trademarks don't expire unlike patents, patented keys have a set time limit before the keys can be copied by a 3rd party, however, trademarks are indefinite therefore illegal to copy, now and in the future.
CES were the first to do it to my knowledge.
How do keep your set on a counter rotation from a spool I always loos my false set?
Interesting lock. Do you sell pinning shims on Covert ?
sir thanks for very informative show. can you tell me where a can buy security style key pins. I have plenty of driver pins that are security pins. I can't find the security key pins. I lost my arm and have no way to make them. thank you for your show a will always leave a comment as I am a subscriber.
+Kerry Huston I'm not sure I know where to get security key pins. The only factory examples that come to mind offhand are the ones that come in American Lock pinning kits, but they only fit in the mini cylinders found in many padlocks.
Hey LPL I'm an incredibly passionate hobbyist lock picker and while I do love the "sport" if that's what you want to call it my lock picking abilities are rather terrible I can only really pick basic locks do you have any tips for developing your skills?
+CRAZYD3MON96 See my videos 188, 182, and 82... three important lessons I wish I knew when I was first starting.
Thanks it doesn't help that for a beginner I'm trying to pick locks far too advanced for someone of my level locks like the Lockwood 334S45 and the Abus Titalium 64/50
Nice video lpl! keep it up
I swear every video I've watched you sound just like the guy that used to MREs I think his name is like Steve something I think you're the same guy your voices are so identical
Not me, but I bet he sounds sexy as hell! 😋
Hahahaha really though. Best of luck
Steve1989 MREInfo? he does sound similar to LPL and *is* sexy as hell :^)
vgel yes thats exactly who im tLking about
Lets get this lock out on a tray.. nice.. ok.
I have this same exact lock. But my bitting is all high cuts. Maybe they're from the same Ebay listing.
Me too! All cuts but one are super high. I haven't been able to pick it yet.
xCAETUSx Haven't picked mine yet either. Can't seem to get up into the warding with my current arsenal of picks.
+The Lock Picking Lebowski Hows that lock treating you? Is it just me, or do these 888 cylinders seem to have much better tolerances than other 83 series cores?
LockPickingLawyer Please check Twitter notifications regarding comparison. I can say this: the tolerances are quite impressive! The spring tension on the core is very strong. I'll take a better look at my core and tolerances today. I am going to file the end of my key so it lines up with the dimple on the keyhole. I was surprised to learn that it doesn't line up and makes for a fumbly insertion. I don't think I'm skilled enough to pick it with my current selection of picks. The cuts are so high that I can't seem to get any pick tips up through the warding. I'll keep trying though. But I really would like to consult with you before I create my next order for Peterson and Sparrows. SouthOrd was okay for my first 3 years of picking on the cheap. But after recently using decent custom picks, I can confirm that an investment into quality tools is now warranted.
@LockPickingLawyer So Im just a regular guy whose lock opening experience basically boils down to having the key....or choosing the correct hammer lol... I have watched alot of your videos and gather that basically no lock is pick proof. Is that accurate? I mean.. Can a decent picker really open any lock in just a few short moments?
So, as someone with just about 0 knowledge of how locks work, how do serrated/spool pins make picking the lock harder?
The one sentence variant is, Feels like you’ve picked it before you really have. There’s a couple of good videos about it.
nice picking. a bit confused how the z key retaining bar works. could you explain it or do a short video at a later date
Chris Ahrens LHG it acts as an interlock, preventing you from turning the core when the shackle is open, this means the key pins can't move since they're held on the shear line by the cylinder wall . If you remove it, you can rotate the core back in line with the bible, and the key can be removed, since the key pins can push the drivers up . The advantage is that you can make sure people have to lock it back up (on the hasp ideally) after they open it up, or have to carry it around on their key chain until they're done - very useful if it's on a communal gate for instance :)
2LeftThumbs but LPL wasn't removing it he just flipped it. to change retaining from non-retaining. I'm sure it's how the z bar interacts with the lock but I can't see it
Chris Ahrens LHG ah, OK, I haven't tried flipping it personally, just removing it it isn't symmetric though, like a Z or 2 with the black dot up and an S or 5 with black dot down. so it catches like a ratchet in a pawl one way, but not the other I guess :)
2LeftThumbs that's what I kinda thought just wasn't sure couldn't imagine it in my head how it caught
Chris Ahrens LHG if LPL doesn't come up with a video, I'll see if I can put one together ( might be that an animation would be better, so that'll probably take a while for me :) ) I did flip the bar accidentally once and couldn't actually reassemble the lock, I'll check if it is meant to be flipped...
Muito bom seu video um que eu procurava.
Well I think this lock is good because I not seen any Elastoplast lately!!!!!!
Any trick to these? I have one with the lamest bitting ever, all 1's and 2's, and can't get anything to bind but pin 1.
learn about spools and serrated pins, you might not have set a serrated properly.
is there anything you haven't been able to pick before?
Tyler - If there was something he couldn't pick, we know he can blow it open with explosives!
im more worried about the twist attack vids, thiefs arnt likely to pick, more be in and rip them off
I was going to ask this too! Bosnian Bill has his naughty bucket with all the locks he hasn't been able to pick, wondering if this guy has too!
Jusb1066 - I totally agree. Not only are many common US padlocks vulnerable to destructive attacks, but the hasps themselves are just as cheesy. A three-foot crowbar will pop most of them right off the door frame -- by pulling the small screws that come with them right out of the wood. You can make that better by using bolts or machine screws that go right through to the inside and backing them up with a metal plate ... but then the hasp itself can be attacked, too. There's really very little one can do against a determined and resourceful thief. Besides, to me, lockpicking is just for fun.
The EVVA 3KS.
i learnt how to remove the plug from the cylinder here. If that pin went into the bible then it is game over
+BlackDolphin90 done it! I had to Drill a tiny hole in the top, then push the pin down with a tiny wire. ☹️
I ordered an Abus 83al-ic/40 and it didnt come with the core because i wasnt paying attention when i ordered. could you point me in the direction to get a core for it and possibly a tutorial on how to install it?? thanks in advance if you happen to see this,
Achromatic you need any standard SFIC core to go in the 83IC. Check eBay. Should come with an operating key and a second key to install or remove the core from the lock.
Cool stuff. How does the Ze Bra for key retention work? I can't figure out how it interacts with the key in that position.
It limits the rotation of the plug in various ways.
Is "Titalium" meant to be suggestive of titanium and aluminum? Seems like the vid could have covered that. Thanks.
It's maybe quicker to type "titalium" into google than to type your (valid) question - it's a trademark they're using for an aluminium alloy (aluminum if you're in the USA of course), I guess they're hoping to imply that it's kinda titanium-like... First hit I get is this www.abus.com/uk/Home-Security/Padlocks/TITALIUM , but I've got to confess that I've had the same curiosity in the past and my previous searches may reflect my current search outcomes :)
Thanks, Lefty.
Isn't Galluminium better? It would be much more pick resistant, as the lock would disintegrate under picking attempts.
LPL, can you pic my taxes next?
ahhh the old 888. lol
that restricted key way looks pretty open.
It is. Restricted doesn’t mean hard.
Are the 83 series locks shim resistant?
When I first saw your video title i thought this lock has 888 pins LOL
Micha Grill it’s the biggest lock in the world! Lol
Can you have a lock with a twisted key. While inserting the key in turning 90 degrees.
Yes. Google “twiskee”
@@lockpickinglawyer Wow, I was expecting an april fools joke but your twiskee video came up.
I wonder why it is not theeeeee lock picking lawyer...
Because by his admission there are better locks pickers out there.
where did you get that amazing pinning tray
According to a number of his other videos, he made it himself. Tons of people ask this and seem to want one...maybe he should come up w/ a business plan?
Pls for what are spools and cerated pins? Or however u spell that sorry english isnt my first language lol
Not a pro, but you have to release tension on spools and could loose a set lock. It doesn't effect LPL so much since he's a pro. As far as serrated pins, I think if you have something to catch they make it difficult to move them under tension and throw off your feel. I'm kind of guessing.
So basically we should just leave out doors unlocked
The bitting on that key looks EXACTLY the same as a chinese closed shackle lock you opened with all your raking tools. Flat and lifeless.
How does the little key retainer thing work?
a removable Z-bar between the cylinder and the locking mechanism
i know this bc i have an 83/45
@@FranzFerdinandVIII Thank you for the info.
I have one of these but with a seven pin core that looks like an american profile with an extra round part on the side
Used it as my bike lock but now i am too scared to lose it outside since i have never ever seen it online
Where can u get this lock
What is that "key-retaining" thing all about?Is it so the key wont drop out,or..?(if u havent noticed,I'm quite green)
I have seen a few key-retaining padlocks at work... you insert the key, turn to open the lock, key will stay in turned position and not be removable. You also will not be able to turn the key back to neutral until you lock it back up. Forces the user to re-lock the lock in order to get his/her key back.
Thanks.
Can you shim this lock?
The bitting on that key is awful.
People say I'll give you a million dollars
pleasw tell us about your 3 favorite yt lockpickers lpl. ty.
+Serdar Gentsch I could never narrow it down to 3. There's a ton of talent out there.
why wont my 888 fit my 83ic/45? It's too big?
The 83IC/45 is made for an SFIC. This KSP BEST style SFIC will work in your lock. www.taylorsecurity.com/best-generic-ic-core-combinated/
no challenge in the bitting. city rake would have got it easy like a master lock
+Luke Bentley Anythings possible, but raking 5 spools is a tall order. Raking to a false set seems more likely.
To what extent does being able to see the key before you start help with picking? Or maybe, one can just google it before...
Disappointing that an Abus picks so easily.
I think having that key sitting there during the pick could be considered cheating, since you can look and see about where the set should be.
Looks like you might be able too "comb" that open? no?
+Phat_Boy 412 Not sure... I'll have to give it a try on another 888 cylinder I have with lots of high cuts. 👍
Is ABUS D15 a good lock?
+Adam Mydelniczka Just Ok... better than many, but not something that would keep me out for too long.
Is ISEO R7 Extra better? I've bought D15 because it is reinforced with hardened steel so cracking this lock should be more difficult.
I want that lock 2