Workplace Mental Health - all you need to know (for now) | Tom Oxley | TEDxNorwichED
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2018
- Is Mental Health important in the workplace? Tom explores all things related to workplace mental health, including mental health in school workplaces, in this insightful video. Tom helps employers figure out mental health at work. He reviews workplaces, trains managers and writes plans.
Since 2012 he has interviewed more than 130 people, surveyed thousands and worked across the UK with corporations, civil service, charities, the public sector, schools and small business. Tom has worked with national mental health charities Mind and Time to Change and consults widely across the UK. He lives in Norfolk and is mildly obsessed with cricket and camping.
He runs Bamboo Mental Health, an organisation dedicated to improving how employers support their people on mental health. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
I personally think that mental health isn’t taken seriously in the workplace is because it’s invisible and the manager will just think you are lazy or making excuses.
Being believed, and backed, is critical for trust and performance. Open conversations are not as common as they should be. For managers that are distrustful, assume positive intent. Or use kind support via EAP or HR process if there are red flags (common, non-specific, non-communicative absence.)
They won't even give you that much thought...
100% agree I have had 25 different jobs in my life even un a supervisor position
We need work police, toxic patrols
@@tomoxley7065 Totally agree 👍. There is no accountability police telling yhe boss hey you have been flaged 15 times and if it continues your going to be let go. They simply repeat the HR paperwork/ training protocol and we still suffer with the same boss & work atmosphere.
The problem with our society is that this conversation is really about saving companies money....not improving our quality of life.
Actually, the legal, moral and business cases often enjoy the same outcome. When we get this right, it works for everyone. The processes to get there are also intertwined. For organisations that only THINK to do this to save money, there will be benefits for employees.
Yup.
I guess whatever motivates someone to do right then it is what it is. Celebs are motivated to do good for good PR but they're still doing good in the end even if it isn't for the right reasons.
Exactly, bingo
Wfdp
I just quite my toxic job after 7 years and I feel AMAZING
Great news Sarah! We cannot thrive in toxicity. Sounds like you are ready to grow again. Huge respect.
Woah nice, any updates?
@@zombiebean6191 the stress is a lot lower at my new job and my boss is Easy-going he doesn’t make a big production out of everything.
@@sarahhelmer7902 nursing?
Well done Sarah I'm quitting mine at the end of the week, my mental health means more than the job that's not helping me in the slightest
Best thing for mental health at the workplace, is a manager & team that have your back
Couldn’t agree more, I’m here because I don’t have them sadly.
Could not agree more. I've unfortunately witnessed firsthand both ends of the spectrum and having a team that vibes and a manager who fights for you, is a true leader, is a huge key.
@@meganable123 mee too :(
Im a tally clerk in warehouse
Very true
I left my day job due to a disease called migraine. Thankfully I got them under control by working from home and don't have to deal with all the office politics, work messages sent to me at 23:00 and stuff like that. I now run a personal branding design studio from home, sell my art online and give guitar lessons as a side-hustle. I am much happier working from home. What an insightful talk!
Good for you - we do have some agency in this.
I’m sorry you live with migraine, too. I get them with aura, and I’ve had to miss SO much work because of them. I’m excited for you that you have an opportunity to work from home!
@@alexandrarathert1839 me too… not able to concentrate at all. There‘s no understanding for my situation. It‘s only important to function at work. Feeling like a machine from day to day in business.
Your lucky. I feel like my mental health would improve if I worked from home. I have to tolerate people and I’m not a people person. I liked it better when I had a truck job and I was working by myself. Damn the freedom I had.
The office politics.......
If u are depressed bcos of ur job, quitting is the first step to end ur suffering & start anew but u have to be ok with the possibility of earning less or being jobless for quite sometimes. Been there done that.
Yess. But what we can do when this thing is repetetive?
I have a fear I won't be able to find a job.
@@cristinacebotari5794 I have a friend who have this problem. Every workplace she had been to makes her feel miserable. In that case I think it’s a deeper issue & need to learn how to deal with it or see therapist etc
@@bagavathyramu6022 yeah that is the risk. I was jobless for more than a year after I quit that depressing job
I just quit my job and have accepted it would be a while before I get another job. Until then my focus would be to improve my mental health and upskill myself. Absolutely dreaded the job and felt too stressed but that’s past now. Hope it worked out for u
My current job has cause me so much anxiety and stress. Working in a call center it’s so stressful because people treat you like a punching bag. I’m so ready to start a new path until I can find my calling.
Thank you 🙏 ❤
I work in a call center too. The thing is I'm more stressed out by the people around me like my bosses and supervisors more than the actual work itself.
generally speaking, I think all of service industries workers are struggling with anxiety and stress, I hope you can get a job of your dream❤.
@@akattomare you working in tech support
Employers are like "is there anything we can do to keep you here that won't involve caring about your mental wellbeing?"
I quit the corporate world for the sake of my mental health. It is a waste of time to deal with toxic boss and colleagues. I do a lot of freelance job, tutoring, web development, online business, flipping houses. It can be done.
@Angel rose try some easy like tutoring english and uber. Then add more skills step by step.
This is the direction I want to go in. Corporate is too stressful
I feel u
@TakChengSze I am so proud of you for quitting the 9-5 hustle! I did the same! I'm helping a friend flip a house and freelancing wherever possible. Typically odd jobs. I'll be helping a greenhouse next week, Christmas I'll be helping a bakery... There's different things out there. Just have to be open minded 😏
@@takchengsze4719 please make video on it. We really want help for where to start.
My job has taken a mental toll on me really bad. I found myself working all day without breaks and on the weekends and it seriously got me to a breaking point.
When i started not enjoying the weekends with my family, couldnt concentrate on things I love because work was always on my mind, i hit that tipping point. I said to myself you live life only once, turn work off on the weekends and enjoy the time you have. It's harder said than done, but i stuck to it. Money isnt worth degrading your health, your hobbies, and more than all your family.
You noticed the signs - well played - I didn't for years. And you're right, we only have one go on the planet (probably!) You can make it longer and more enjoyable if you understand your mindset BUT sometimes this is a complex journey. But we do have agency in how we run our race. I wish you well.
This is why people turn to alcohol and drugs because the issue is not being addressed. This is why people commit atrocities against themself and others. Because the problem is not being addressed. The American economy values efficiency over humanity.
I'm here after being sent home early for having a mini breakdown, my boss isn't even bad we just lack communication and everything getting ontop of me
It is fine. It will heal
The problem is that the first resort is always to fix the person when the correct way is to fix the environment. It all comes back to money and profits. If the world was less obsessed with money and growth the issues would disappear. But given that's a little unrealistic the next approach is for management to provide a better environment, not tell employees how to deal with stress. Fix the cause, not the symptom.
I hear you Russell - the irony is that if we support people it costs less. But we're bloody obsessed with more and faster and... something gonna give.
Couldn't have written any better myself.
@@999timepass In life there are only 2 problems--mind and the body. To feel better reduce negative thoughts. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives good relief from stress-anxiety. To relax sit on a chair or lie down, neck straight, eyes closed and observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 5-10-15 minutes or more. Don’t fight your thoughts. With daily practice the mind will relax. No deep breathing needed. Do the practice without any expectations. When taking a walk, at office, in college, when reading, before sleep etc observe your breath sensations. Like me, make this a lifetime daily habit to have a better life. Reduce negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Best wishes--Counsellor.
Yep
I struggle with depression and anxiety really bad. I decided to work overnights and do stocking because there is no customers, but my depression still gets bad and my anxiety is bad as well. I want to work and make money but my mental health does effect me. I feel unmotivated, tired, overthinking and overwhelmed. It’s very hard for people especially managers to understand. Depression and anxiety is a real thing and mental health in general. People don’t just commit suicide for no reason. It’s the raving thoughts in your head and emotions. I get yelled at all the time for being “too slow” I have to use excuses all the time on why I call out. Treat others with kindness and respect
They are very real, dear sohailsohail9655 I am sad to hear you are in this place. But have courage that you can work for change. If you can afford any therapeutic help it is often a good place to start your journey. Alongside professional support, sleep, nutrition (low ultra-processed food) and daily movement are nearly always beneficial. But mainly, I hear you and feel for you. You are already doing amazing things - real strength to keep going. I send you all kindness from UK.
Workplace bullying and other sorts of what I call "work hurts" are rampant in workplaces. It's awful. Finally, there is an upward trend in awareness about this issue and better information about what individuals and organizations can and should do in response.
India is full of bullies and psychotic managers in IT industry.
@@ROCKJAMES03 I'm so sorry to hear this. Do you see efforts to bring awareness to the problem and address it?
Have been passively trying to by joining unions of IT employees, but since it is a service industry and there is a constant switching to different companies among employees , it is a little difficult to organize ourselves.
But ultimately, the corporates are plundering our emotional sap.
Can you suggest something that I can do my bit, to gain attention from the top level bureaucrats?
@@ROCKJAMES03 Wow . . . a lot of employee movement does pose a challenge for organizing, but I can definitely recommend that you (or you and whatever group of allies you're able to assemble) make a formal presentation to leadership focused on the problem as you see it, the widespread problem (a handful of key research highlights and stats about the countrywide or worldwide problem), what it is costing your company (in turnover, in sick leave use, poor morale and productivity, harder time recruiting talent b/c of company culture, etc.), and what you are asking leadership to do OR what you propose they do. Your "ask" or "proposal" could be something like you want to gather up a representative group of employees with an executive leadership "sponsor" to serve as an advisory group . . . or you want to suggest the company hire a consultant to do a culture audit to find problem areas and make recommendations . . . or you simply want their blessing and help in starting monthly lunchtime talks with guest speakers on bullying, mental health in the workplace, workplace wellness, etc. Do these ideas help you at all?
@@ROCKJAMES03 One website that may be helpful as a start (though it's U.S.-oriented) is the Workplace Bullying Institute. You may find links and resources relevant to other countries from there.
Liars, backstabbers, tattletales, overworked underpaid, it's a miracle anyone survives to retire.
I'm investigating treating anxiety naturally and discovered a fantastic website at Aghy Magic Method (google it if you're interested)
@@edgarz7330 From America.. How much will it cost
Retire....most people wont even know the meaning of the word. I expect we will all be working until we virtually hit the grave these days.
@@fatwalletboy2 I can quit at 60, im 54, "Surviver benefits" Wife died 4 years ago. If parents die before then i get the house and i can sell it. I live in a moble home so if i could get my hands on about 50k i could quit now!
Truth!!!! They use us then spit us out; if we even make it to the spit out phase!
So little likes and comments. Why?
I agree, Mental health discussions and support is lacking in the workplace and I’m speaking from personal experience. I’m working to change this in my environment and hope that it becomes an ongoing trend.
Shavonne, thank you. Link In with me and I would be happy to share info/resources. Good luck with your mission.
Tom Oxley hi, how do I link in with you to receive resources/info, etc, very interested. Thank you for the talk, great work. Cheers, Sharon
I'm here because I'm dealing with these probs too. Mental health could affect the productivity that's why management need to take this matter seriously
I quit my job at social security services in Austria six years ago. A job where its almost impossible to get fired. No one understood my decision and still when i look back it was the best decision ever. Since then my live got so much better and right now i work for six months and travel for six months every year. I can only advise you: be brave and move on 🎉🎉
what did you change your occupation to?
@@willzayas3239 right now i work as a self employed wine salesman and part time in a Hotel in Austrian, alps. And when i travel i use workaways all over the world to lower my travel costs. Works really great for me.
how do u do that ? really wanna know
@@bitchybajwa9878 honestly i just went for it without a plan. I read a book from John Strelecky and it was an eye opener for me. If you dont feel happy with what you do....change something. Think about what you really wanna do instead and then follow your dreams. Once i started to change my life, opportunities came to me without me searching for them. At the moment I'm thinking of buying a propper campervan and travelling the whole Europe the next few years. We will see how thats working for me. What are you doing right now and what would you like to change?
Man i've always struggled with work gotta go soon. People without depression never understand people with it sad fact of life
Amen, I'm with you on that...Anxiety and Depression and they look at you when you try to talk to them lol and you can hear their eye lashes brink like a cartoon haha. They need to train more management that some people struggle more than usual!!
Nice talk . It is NOT about the days off and weekends..But the trust and communication and support at work
But at times the days off from work can also help get rid of the stress building up definitely no denying about the trust and communication.
I'm off for 3 days to recover from stress build up at that company I work for.It's like the vile entered the place(Compare Daniel 11:21--) and turned the place upside down with their exploits.I can't even take a day off without returning to a big mess left by those colleagues I work with. I'm in the wrong environment, around the wrong people.Those managers/ supervisors are lousy, too, turning the blind eye.These 3 days (4-13,14,and 15) will go fast.
It's also about the breaks.
Thank you for this video Tom, I came across this video in such relevant timing. Much questions in my mind, it's difficult when you're in that situation and we fear that we'll be judged and singled out. The problem is weighing up whether you speak out, or add your voice to bring up the issues or leave the place. Much other factors such as company profit obsessed culture, putting customers first. I feel as if I've been pushed to my limits and it's not a great place. Sending my love to all the people in this difficult time. Choose the moral way of overcoming.
I am here because I am having anxiety at my work place... power hungry owners, have no empathy for their underpaid, over worked employees.
you mean empathy
You know theyre making loads of profit but all you hear is theres no money in the pot......
@@fatwalletboy2 so true.
@@danhope77 lol, yes, I meant to write "empathy." 🙂
They have lots of "apathy "
@Devilluke ラム I am so sorry. I pray that things changes for you soon.
Most employers are profit robots with a total disregard to someone's mental/physical health!..they don't like the mental health subject, because it challenges the ethos of using people for their own ends!.
This is true of the unsustainable pounds-in-pounds out business model. But there are other ways!
True most employers want robots they disregard the way we feel and dont care about your mental health when someone feels exploited
I dont have time to deal with a coworkers work load just because of their mental illness.
My job stresses me out from time to time. Sometimes I have hard days. Sometimes I have hard weeks. But there are good days, good weeks. And at the end of the day I still like my job. I'm not at the point where I want to quit. It's normal to have some stressful hard days... But also helps to talk about those stressful days. Vent them out. It's not easy to just laugh off the stressful situations.
“Managing out of the organization” is so real. Also, yes talking about mental health at work is important, but it needs to be done genuinely. My line manager in the NHS gave me a weird smirk when we got to the mental health question in one of our meetings because I’d be crying from months of constant nitpicking
Sorry to hear this Clara. Try bringing in a third party - a colleague or another manager - to your meeting. Record the nitpicking. Get witnesses. Seek resolution from your manager based on the evidence. It sounds like you've had a really hard time and I'm sorry. Your guts probably tell you this feels unfair and they are correct. Bless you.
Wow thanks for responding Tom! You know what if this ever happens to me again, what you suggested is exactly what I will do, but at the time I was so stressed I didn’t have the capacity to press further other than to let HR know what had happened. Also too afraid that I’d cause noise that ends up backfiring on me because my field is fairly small. That being said, I’m in a much better place now that I’ve left that organization.
Keep up your great work! It really helps empower and equip those who unfortunately come across these situations. Poor management will always be around but awareness is the first step!
@@bohemianwanderer happyy to know that you left!!!!!! Keep ya head high.
Im dealing with that now ive been looking for another job and have a interview soon.
Sometimes we make such easy things so complex. I think training the managers are the first thing to improving this situation. Well said, thank you!
Yes indeed! Manager training gives excellent return for your time and investment. They are best placed to spot signs, have that important conversation and create offer adjustments. To do this, however, they need support of senior leaders! Good HR policies, processes and a choice of support also help.
This was much needed for me as I go through the very similar situations that you just mentioned.Mental health should be a priority
Need to realize that mental health is part of our daily life with top priority to maintain it and of our loved ones.
Very much so - it can be hard but it's worth it.
Best job is to work in nature. Office jobs are almost synonymous to depression
Nature is an ASTONISHING natural antidote for sure Helena!
Agreed!!!!
But why is always like that, they almost killed me before I asked for emergency holiday 🙃 and during my holiday, I was unable to secure another but I eventually resigned peacefully before they kill me.
I cry as I hear him describing how depressed and stressed people are and not being able to get support. I really think I do have a problem.
I get you man.
I'm past my breaking point and don't know how to start a discussion like this at work. It almost feels like an inconvenience to my already very busy managers
Max, there will be someone. Either at work or outside, or a charity, or the Samaritans (UK) I hope you can articulate your feelings somewhere and to someome you trust. You matter Max.
If your managers are worried about your efficiency then it's their job to address those needs of yours for better efficiency. Especially mental and emotional ones
Unfortunately, the thing that got my managers full attention was saying that I nearly resigned.
Busy managers are often the most pressurised group in your organisation, and theyre probably ill-equipped to deal with their own mental health, let alone others. Most employers nowadays have an Employee Assistance Programme and / or Mental Health First Aiders, independent of the line to help signpost you. Having conversations in a non-judgemental situation is vital. An open culture is so important and it takes courage to raise this matter with your employer. Having said that, there is so much noise about this huge issue nowadays, and your employer should be aware that failure to exercise a duty of care will have both commercial and reputational implications. Does your workplace have an influential employee representative group or someone / somebody of that ilk who can start the conversation?
First step is opening up the conversation - faith that there are good people to speak to about it and make the necessary changes to really live better
I can’t say it enough. To retain employees you have to care for their well-being like it’s your own. But instead management constantly disregards the warning signs and then posts how such of a devastating loss it is to the company that the employee is literally “gone” or has departed the company. Especially from self harm. The signs are there. But only a small percentage of companies truly care.
Why retain when thousands are looking for work?
@@silver4831 In some high-demand and stressful jobs with "x" caseloads, for continuous service. To the employer's benefit, keeping diligent workers on board permanently would be beneficial. Because every time you bring in a new worker, you risk losing customers due to mismatch or their high demand needs weren't being met daily by the absent of the designated worker. Or having to learn someone's work integrity for at least after 3 months. Unfortunately, the handover of workers in some jobs leaves clients unsupported and gradually impacts an organisation's reputation.
Very useful video. In life there are only 2 problems--mind and the body. To feel better reduce negative thoughts. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives good relief from stress-anxiety. To relax sit on a chair or lie down, neck straight, eyes closed and observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 5-10-15 minutes or more. Don’t fight your thoughts. With daily practice the mind will relax. No deep breathing needed. Do the practice without any expectations. When taking a walk, at office, in college, when reading, before sleep etc observe your breath sensations. Like me, make this a lifetime daily habit to have a better life. Reduce negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Best wishes--Counsellor.
Lovely to see such an encouragement to accept depression, anxiety, and stress. It is indeed a reality that is happening every single day inside a home or a workplace that's why it is important to help out each other in order to get better together, to get through such a rough time together. Such an unhealthy balance of life and work has brought impactful consequences in my life and body, I am in the state to prioritize my health first as it is what I urgently need. Palpitations and hyperventilation aren't a joke and can result in death. I've experienced it all. So, let's prioritize our health more than anything, to prevent such regrets.
Thank you - helpful observations - recovery with acceptance in the bigger picture (or just in ourselves). There ARE things we can do, though not all journeys are the same of course.
The last part actually made me cry. This helps a lot in ways I have been searching for
Am I the only one thinking that if I actually brought this issue up to my employer, I would be laughed at or maligned?
I promise you, you won't be the only one who feels it. But if you're not safe, or don't feel it, that's telling you a lot about your employer. I hope eyes have been opened recently to compassion we all need right now.
This happened to me a month ago, I was being laughed at and one of them said "mental health? Honey all of us is crazy, this is just reality"
Its a taboo subject, uneducated people are not aware about the danger of mental illness. Even the HR people who are mostly from psychology degree, they forgot everything that they learn and take part in this human exploitation.
Same. But I know the others won’t be honest
Nah you're not alone. I'd be told to just push through it.
You might not be, but you certainly won't be given any support. "Independence and Ambiguity" is what most companies live on because they either don't know how to write competent policies or the want to pass the blame downward.
Coming from personal experience, I totally agree.
To send people straight to doctor and give them long day offs often doesn’t help.
Have sincere talk with the employees, let them feel safe talking about the problem, and maybe discuss what could change, often serves better.
A lot of time employees just need to safe place to discuss. Locking themselves in the brain is the fastest way to depression and lost of human asset.
Sorry to hear about your experience - this is all still very real and live. Sending my best to you,
@@tomoxley7065 Thank you sir. I hope you have a great day as well.
Everything starts with communication. I have a coworker that no matter how much you want to help and give her options she have an excuse for every situation in her life starting from childhood and her victimhood drives everyone bunkers. Pretty much use every employee as a therapist and people started cutting her up completely. Now she said they have no manners and they disrespected her (among other things). She don't get it! We are at work not at the park. She refuse to look into herself to see why people treat her like that. So is the worlds fault and she has no accountability.
Weekend = Work without Manager yelling at you , complaining and picking out only mistakes
As a manager I'm asked to justify company needs of working people Monday thru Saturday every damn week. Sometimes up to 60 hrs a week. And the thought of mentioning "mental health" and the fact that they're burning out their employees is a battle that'll end up getting me fired. I've brought it up in meetings that you cannot work people like this and that it has an adverse effect on hiring new employees. Our new plant manager said, word for word, "if we have work, you WILL work. Period. End of discussion". Some OT is great, dont get me wrong, but other than Xmas and Good Friday, I have worked every Saturday since September of 2020. I'm burnt. It's time for a change.
Chad - I'm sorry man. Worth considering if you have options away from here. We have to be clear about dying for a paycheck, but not everyone has that choice. But what can we do without our health? Sending my best.
I came here after 3 months of working nonstop including all sundays and holidays. I don't know what or how should i feel about that anymore, im just exhausted.
Have you found a better way of living? Do you still work at the same company in the same position? Also are you alright? I hope all is well!
Many people are in a position where taking time for mental health, even less than a day, is a luxury they cannot afford.
We have transcended material and social divides and we are now divided by who can afford to have basic human needs and comforts.
These are things that we never really lacked as humans until now. It’s ironic that in a world of ever increasing abundance and convenience, we can be lacking fundamental self care and connections that were once taken for granted.
I came to this video because I just had to clock out of work due to a prolonged five hour wave of panic attacks..
I'm glad you've taken time out. Hope you can find recovery and support.
Same… it’s so awful wtf
The job I’m working at now, my boss in the job interview asked about my mental health asking “so is that all cleared up now”, to which I responded “yes”, out of fear that they’d think I’d be unreliable. Now I’m at home after having a panic attack at work and had to leave work early to look after myself. One of the managers who was looking after me didn’t understand what a panic attack was, so I had to try to explain to him while I was still showing symptoms. Not the best way to handle it but he showed his support for me which helped.
It’s very difficult when there’s no openness to learning about mental health. Although my managers where fine to let me go home early, I wouldn’t have known that was ok until this happened. The reason my attack started was because I get trapped and was convinced I couldn’t allow myself to feel anything but fine.
Sorry for your experiences.
You're right: a good organisation makes it REALLY clear it's ok not to be okay. They go first. They show (not just tell) that flexibility to manage health is not just possible but positive!
This video is absolutely brilliant.
That is most kind Ron, I hope it helps in some way. Thank you.
Here after a stressful day at work and struggling 🥺🥺
Sorry Hayley - sounds tough. Glad you've noticed the signals. I hope you can take time to think about what you might change (and what you can't). Good luck.
Amazing lecture especially at 8:39 be the manger that you want to have
Thank you Ali
I really enjoyed this, thank you
Mr. Oxley is doing important work. 🙏
Sometimes it is very difficult to cope up with the workload and office politics. Especially, when you have so much on your plate.
a great tedex i have been a victim of mental health within the workplace and it was caused by management bullies something that the tedx failed to discuss.
The problem is that the first resort is always to fix the person when the correct way is to fix the environment. It all comes back to money and profits. If the world was less obsessed with money and growth the issues would disappear. But given that's a little unrealistic the next approach is for management to provide a better environment, not tell employees how to deal with stress. Fix the cause, not the symptom.
Wish it was that simple I'm working a restaurant and the restaurant's been 55 some years my boss man his dad started it and there's only like three of them three or four around here and my boss will I spoke to him about my manager multiple times I've been there 3 years or so and within this last year she started bullying me and it got bad I've spoken to people outside there I've even went to the courthouse and there's nothing I can do like there's harassment there's Boolean I've lost weight I don't eat I don't sleep I have really bad thoughts like not to hurt myself no I love me some me but I hurt she has hurt me so bad worse than a relationship I've been in a 6 years being abused I don't know what to do I've tried to do as much as I can I don't have a car I can just go out and get a job I walked to my job it ain't but two blocks from here I love my job actually I love most everybody there it's just her please someone help
I cried at a meeting, begging my bosses to let me sleep after 40 hrs without sleep. I have been going through this for months of overwork. Now everyones talking behind my back about that incident.
Your health comes first. It must. SO hard sometimes, but you matter too much Icldan.
I can feel you... Same thing is happening with me 😞
Excellent and necessary your tips. Congratulations. We should follow.
Just had the worst shift of my current job today, and fortunately I have a management I was able to talk to. Let's see if that matters.
i have anxiety panic at times that lead to insomnia... ... my family advise is to change to a job that will have lesser stress
I work for a massive company here in the uk, I’m off with depression and on medication now and told my line manager and also occupational health who have referred me to CBT therapy, got a letter in last week saying I am going on half pay as before this I have ran and made excuses after excuses and took random sickness as I couldn’t face talking to my employer or anyone about what’s going on with me, now my sickness has now accumulated in just over 6 months off work in the last year which I am not proud of at all obviously, but no more lies and it’s out in the open for all to see and have half pay which brings its own stresses, just want to be better and fast.
I'm a young people manager myself and sometimes I feel like I just can't take it. My personal negativity for my own life + managing a team + dealing with stakeholders does get a LOT. Ever since I've taken up this role I'm really suffering from seeing the bright side of life, let me know what helped your case
@@Pri100 Sorry to hear this, since I expressed my problems my employer they have been really good I must say, along with medication (Sertaline) and the CBT slowly I started improving, very slowly with ups and downs trying to find a balance dosage with the meds which I was always against, but I was at my lowest ebb at the time and decided I needed to try something. I also was put on a lengthy back to work plan building my hours back up to being back full time after 3 months which helped me get back to full pay too, this really helped me get some routine back in my life too. Currently I’m now tapering my medication down with an aim to get off the medication hopefully within the next 8weeks.
Personally with my experience if I could give any advice is own it, own your feelings and speak out and be truthful and always consult your GP and work with them, being truthful seems to have its own natural release I found and don’t get me wrong I still have my bad days but they are getting less now and more manageable.
I was diagnosed with anxiety, ocd with intrusive thought patterns which was triggering a depression, so this may be totally different from your circumstances, a role or job change could be your issue.
Man- I needed this
My job tells us we are all easily replaceable. They took our Christmas bonuses away this year and cut our benefits in half. The owner just bought a brand new $80,000 vehicle.
Bosses are devious . They plot and plan how to make things uncomfortable , all while smiling and saying hello. You have no power at work if on the lower rung . Forget about meaningful conversations , many are out to destroy you .
Totally agree! They are demons out to destroy you! Pray 🙏🏼
@@claudiacanales2662 It’s too late. The damage has been done.
The worlds is becoming faster, but in trades the work is almost the same now than it was 30 years ago. With the exception of some new types of tools. People expect things done faster, and with the same quality. The world expects quality and speed, and this is what stresses out a contractor. Speaking from experience here, If someone wants a job done that should take a week in a few days. Their will be a rush and that in turn takes a toll on quality. Give that contractor that full time and he will be able to provide a better quality product as well as a better attitude toward the job. We arn't machines, we are human.
Cutting costs and rushing through some projects can cause fatal accidents. Big example: The 2 Boeing plane crashes. Then come the lawsuits. I hate this corporate greed and stubbornness. Also hate being afraid to just refuse.
I worked on lots of big building sites and everyone has a program of how long the job should take each individual trade but they just cut it in half and expect the same level of quality, they say you need to get more men but that doesn't always help.
Superintendent here snd I can relate the unrealistic schedules and expectations of clients makes me want to quit construction is becoming terrible
Couldn't agree more. Shame the people who SHOULD hear this will never do so.
Even if they hear it they wouldn’t care or change
This is literally me right now, my mind cannot take it anymore. I finally put in a complaint and I am already looking for a new employment because I should not have to be dealing with egoism.
Good for you - for calling it, for knowing you have some agency, for believing in a change that will help your health and mental health. I bet it's also tough, and upsetting at times. But you matter! It could save your life, certainly your mind.
Thank you Jessica for sharing this@@jessicaj9743 . Reassurance that God is always with me and hearing my prayers
Loved it❤
Useful for managers who don’t want to be hated. I’m just a common laborer in North Carolina. For me this talk has been only as deep as the moral to every Charles Dickens story ever written: “The world would be a nicer place if only there were nicer people in it.”
Absolutely @Scott - people work harder for nicer people. I'd be in your team.
I work in the corporate world and my depression and anxiety is crippling. The pay is good though. sometimes I feel like ending my life would be better.
I urge you to seek support. You matter too much.
Same feeling!
This has brought tears.
Keep going Vamshi, seek others to talk to if you can. Exercise and listening are the best medicines.
Very good ‘field of flowers’ made me laugh. Thank you
I just had a mental breakdown because of my job. I tried to explain to my wife that my mental health is deteriorating. However, she doesn't seem to believe me. I've been punching walls for 5min now, feeling resentful. I've been keeping these negative emotions to myself, and I feel like I'm about to have another breakdown.
I am really sorry. What you are feeling is real. You are not alone. And you do have choices and support. Try your charity or a doctor. It's not your fault, and you can manage this.
Yup I understand you Irvin. I’m there now. Asking God to give me strength. Lord I pray for Irvin, may you open new doors for him, heal his mind andbody and give him the peace only you can give him!!!!! 🙏🏼 Get on your knees and claim the name of Jesus!
It sounds like you need a break
Guys, the Indian workplace is a horrible place to be. It's rife with jealousy, old fashioned beliefs, rigidity, back stabbing, overwork and little to no appreciation. But this isn't the worst part. The worst part is no one understands squat about mental health here. It's not even a conversation, and if you bring anything of the sort up, you'll be fired before you can bat an eyelid. Or at the very least, considered to have a serious attitude problem. And this isn't just true of small companies in India. I work at HSBC, and you wouldn't believe how toxic it is here. I feel companies should place a very high value on candidates who have empathy and compassion, especially for managerial positions. Because a bad manager can give you very poor self esteem, and that should be something you can avoid.
Really respected your comment and sad to hear this. These cold, heartless employers or managers will feel the pain of it when someone in their family dies from suicide.
Working in Dubai is the same thing. People flew from delhi straight here and bring this toxic mentality to the workplace. Though I think it’s not limited to Indians. I work with Europeans, Africans, Asians
I feel what you say. All that you can do is to be like how you would like others to be with you. Compassionate, empathetic and understanding
One of the workplaces with the most pervasive mental health problems is the mental healthcare industry.
I have seen examples of this too. It's important to get proper data from your own workplace to create bespoke, evidence-based plans. That way we can cut through to what really matters for where we work.
Awesome lecture thank you. x
@@jessicaj9743 I don't need saving at all by Jesus Followers. Thank you.
Namaste
Karoshi is a Japanese term meaning "death from overwork"
Daily connecting to the Source/God through any meditation technique is a great way to overcome such stress
Thanks
I will look this up! Thank you
This is really good!
I've worked for Walmart 27+ years and I'm ready to move on to something new. :)
Fantastic - a new challenge can be refreshing for the mind. Good luck.
I work for the NHS at a GP surgery. I sat at my desk in a room full of people with my hand holding my chest. It took 30 mins before anyone noticed..... IN A GP SURGERY! After a meeting the previous day saying we should be looking out for one another
I think the NHS has got to be one of the worst places to work. I immediately resigned from a job that was making me ill both physically and mentally and I was only there for 3 and a half months.
When we work 8 hours 5 days a week I'm okay , as soon as they start 10 hours a day plus Saturday I leave early. It takes a toll on my mental health
Rest is so good physically and mentally
So much of this rings true with my experiences of work - what is masked as "concern for your welfare" is actually a pretext to boot you out, in my case, because I was getting too expensive to employ
Ty I'm going to talk to them. I feel like I could do my work on a part time basis..but as of now working full time..I feel like I'm going insane n have no timw to do anything
I just got my first job 2 months ago and I am stuck in it for the next two years. I have so much stress and anxiety that one day it just got so much worse that I took a sick day bcs I just couldn't bear it(I have never taken sick leaves before this all my life). It's so stressful that I have no idea what to do. I am an introvert too so talking about my problems especially with my team is out of question. I work more than 12 hrs a day that adds to the stress. And I am stuck here for the next two years so my life officially sucks and the next two years are going to be filled with anxiety, exhaustion and sickness.
What’s your job? And how are you doing now?
@@kcx2678 Hi. I am a software engineer. It's been almost 8 months since I joined now. It started to get a little better a few months ago but in the last 2 weeks or so my anxiety has gotten worse. Even yesterday and today I am on sick leave because it has been that bad. Thanks for your reply though, I wasn't expecting one.
@@neethinnambiar6240 Hello. Has it gotten any better??
Thank you so much, I desired to be a perfect manager in my workplace. But still learning when to shut up, and when to speak.❤
You are welcome - and from your short comment I bet your team know you're trying to get things right for them @the_awe.
As a clinician at a mental healthcare clinic I am acutely aware of stressors that have potential of eroding team cohesion. Having unbiased supportive resources in place and available are critical to avoid burnout and employee dissatisfaction.
I think people underestimate the effect - you have seen it and it ain't fluffy. Thank goodness for professionals like you doing your work.
PREACH.
I’ve already told my leadership about the stress one of them is causing. Went from two understanding and encouraging me to go to therapy while the third one continues to stress me out, to two acting like I’m a visitor passing through when they see me and the third one continues to stress me out. The whole time, I’m just like “🙉make her stop. I wouldn’t be stressed out and need to go to therapy if you addressed the cause of my stress (the third boss’s behavior).” I can’t even talk to her without her retaliating in some way. She doesn’t listen, she does what she wants to do, she doesn’t care what other people are going through, how they feel, what they think, or how her actions/decisions are stressing the rest of us out. Stress is a symptom of something, just like pain, itching, and grogginess are symptoms of something. Address the cause properly and the symptoms go away.
Root cause - definitely! Take care because you matter and stress does have a physiological effect!
I have a good team I work with but due to my disabilities it’s hard especially when I’m doing studying and have a date I have to get them done by, it causes me to overthink and have panic attacks bc me having those disabilities it’s hard and you overthink if you don’t get them done by the due date your boss might think you didn’t try or are lazy even tho she 100% understands
9 Ways To Deal with High-Pressure Situations-
1. Understand Your Cutoff
2. Identify Your Triggers
3. Focus On The Task, Not The Result
4. Don’t Try To Avoid Pressure
5. Establish A Prioritization Plan
6. Break Down Your Tasks
7. Don’t Procrastinate
8. Change Your Outlook About Pressure
9. Try Mindfulness Practice
Leave that people .
Our life is short to live..
Dont waste with toxic people.
The workplace is supposed to be your second home and you must feel welcomed and accepted to gain confidence. It’s like a safe place. If you don’t feel like that then…
Mixing up the words industry and injury feels like a metaphor more than a misstep and now I’m ✨😭✨ in the club again.
I regret that misstep @LaurynHarrel! I hope you're doing okay.
I am here because I feel A lot stress at work.
shaheer hassan same, I’m 19 and I breakdown and cry three hours before I have to work. I’m not sure why.. but no matter where I go I’m just so anxious.
Brilliant. I think a lot of employers lose great people because they spend too much time being professional and forget about being personal especially when it matters. The corporate world silk always spin on people are not as well oiled as that machine unfortunately.
I’m in sales. Health insurance producer. Job is performance based and I know I can do the job I’ve been here the longest I’ve ever kept a job and have even enjoyed it at times. I’ve been going through deaths of friends, I’m a single mom have no social life what so ever. I sleep all day and have ptsd and anxiety all night. I would not wish depression on my worst enemy. Of course my job does not understand and just thinks I’m lazy or incompetent one more write up for being late or poor job performance and im losing my job. I care sooo much about my job but at this moment I don’t
Fond community. Keep talking. Depression comes from a real place - therapeutic support can try and identity it.
Companies will easily replace you in a heartbeat. So why care about them when they don't care about you. Build up yourself. Work with a purpose of making a life for yourself. Spend your youth building a network of wealth and a family of supporters that will be with you thick and thin and about all take care of your health. You can have all the money in the world but at your death bed it's all meaningless. So go out and love, enjoy life, work hard easy everything.
The Friday just before taking my vacation, I made a few mistakes and even broke down while on a call with my boss. That was when I was relieved to know I was ready for a break.
That's a big sign! Your body was crying out for rest. Regular vacations do help prevent burnout as part of general health management. But I also hope you are able to discuss your load with your manager. I wish you all the best.
I work in a hospital and in the telecommunications section: in-house emergencies, in-coming calls, calling emergency theatre teams in, monitoring helicopters etc. Team leader is a bully and not too bright. I have 40 years experience as a touch typist, 100wpm, MS suite etc. I now have to manually colour in rosters with 5 coloured highlighters every shift, enter the same names and phone numbers over and over again. All offers of designing a more complex spreadsheet to incorporate all this data are rejected. Dumbing myself down to this level is demoralising. Have had chest pains and thought I was going to gave a heart attack, fully checked out in our own ED. Doctor asked about stressors and realised I had never made the connection to the bullying and belittling at work.
Wow, I am sorry Suzie. You will have access to support via the health authority Employee Assistance Programme - Suzie your self care is NOT selfish. Good luck.
@@tomoxley7065 I appreciate your acknowledgement, Tom. Thank you.
My employer doesn’t have mental health in their vocabulary, and it’s needed where I work. It needs to be a weekly conversation in our workplace. They would think I was crazy if I approached them about this. I’m ready to leave, cause I’ve been struggling with stress in my workplace, and no help resources through them
I’m facing so much trauma in my job. I’m not able to work properly due to constant negative feedback I have so many self doubts cause of my supervisor. I just hope I get out of this phase
I felt this. Aside from that, I'm also a mom of 3. I really wanted to quit but I just can't because of our financial needs.
I feel like if i dont quit my job, I'm going to seriously lose it with somebody at work or worse i just dont know i definitely am quitting come Friday
Yep, at the risk of sounding like a massive Yoda, your body and feelings are guiding you!!
Great speech Tom. I ll be speaking about this as well in my department this Friday during our Townhall .
Good for you. You can make a difference Noorulhuda!
Tom i listened again to your talk , can you help me about the 30% your refering to in early of the talk. 30% of absence?
My comment was the difference in % when I wrote the talk which was early 2019. I don't know where you are based, but in the UK more than 54% of total time off is now stress, anxiety & depression.
I am allowed 5 weeks of vacation and now in Winter I usually take it because it's more difficult for me to get there. I try to be there as much as possible but for the last weeks I had to take 1 or sometimes even 2 days of my allowed 5 weeks. I just called my Boss to ask if I could have the last 2 days off this week. He allowed it but sounded so dissappointed in me that it makes me feel really anxious of what he and my co workers think of me. I know that I am allowed my 5 weeks a year but it looks so bad that I already take 1 day a week off also the fact that I am just an apprentice who still has to learn most stuff makes it worse.
Anxiety because of what we think people think is super-common. Take your break. Chat to your friends about what they think. You have a right to work well. The alternative will mean you take MORE time off. Stay well.
I'm enthralled by this content. I had the privilege of reading something similar, and I was truly enthralled. "Mastering Money Mindfulness" by Benjamin Hawk
I work 2 jobs. Im a VP of a Sales for a company that raises capital from investors for a high risk investment. Im also an executive chef of a fibe dining restaurant. I absolutely consume myself with work because im struggling with a lot of issues from PTSD to Complicated Grief Disorder to Bipolar disorder with constant suicidal bipolar depression. It's worked well for the last coupke years. It's no longer working, and I know I'll either give in to the depression or completely break from 14 hour work days as a chef 6 days a week and spending 10-20 additional hours training sales representatives and selling clients. I feel hopeless and I'm out of options and effective ideas to stave off the suicidal thoughts and actions.