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I've seen A LOOOOOOOT of videos on espresso machines this past week, and this is by far the most down to earth, helpful, and "just what I was looking for and needed" video of them all! Thank you!
@@JohnNoirSmith , I'm with you! had the same impression and just ordered one machine, will also order the suggested accessories for "enhanced mode" ! Thanks Tom for this video!!!
@@filipecb I've now had this machine for a few months, and HIGHLY recommend getting the suggested accessories! Makes it pretty much perfect for me, and so easy to use 😊
Bought it back in 2018 not a single issue and still as the first day despite being used daily. Beautiful machine that looks great in the kitchen and prepares really good coffees
As an owner of a dedica, this was so helpful in getting the most out of it. I'm a newbie in this world but this machine is so easy to use and versatile in functionality.
Planning to buy this. Searched for the model and landed here. It’s so informative and very well explained. Thank you very much. Loved watching this, and you explaining so beautifully. 🙌🏻
We've got one of those at work - and it's a great machine for a small office environment. In enables 'ordinary' people to enjoy decent coffee with a push of a button. At the same time - the more 'nerdy' coffee enthusiast can play with the technique and the settings. The machine seems quite reliable too - ours is almost two yers old, and with regular cleaning and descaling it hasn't given us any problems.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and skills with us in such an approachable way. I'm a beginner when it comes to coffee, and I really appreciate how you explained things - starting with basic and then moving on to more advanced methods, but without making it look daunting. You made the whole process look feasible, and now I'm even more interested in learning beyond the basic stuff.
The secret to great coffee is the beans or ground coffee you use, good quality, and also either a mix of two or three types of beans. I use a stovetop Percolator, I think in America they call them Moka Espresso Pot. This method takes longer, however, I think it does a better job of making better-tasting coffee espresso than the machines.
@@Mav_F Thanks for this tip! Sadly, I don't have a gas stove top as it's not allowed in my condo. I use an induction cooker instead, and I've tried using a moka pot on this cooker and it was terrifying to determine when it was time to take the pot off the cooker. There was a time the pot made a booming sound because there was too much pressure, I think? I also burned myself a couple of times. So umm I will be staying away from moka pots for some time. 😭
@@sabbathunlimited Oh not good. By the way, you can put it on any type of stovetop. You turn off the stove just before the coffee reaches the bottom of the Spigot hole if you put enough water in it. You should hear it coming up, not sure what the boom sound was. (Don't leave it on the stove or while it's not coming out anymore or you will burn the rubber and then it's not good anymore to use). You can use a teatowel to remove it from the stove carefully and then stir the coffee with a teaspoon to mix it properly then slowly pour it into a cup. When you aren't used to it, it can be difficult. I was brought up with it as a child as my parents are Italians.
I purchased this model and a bottomless porta filter a couple of days ago to replace my Breville 3 in one, after seeing your down to earth no BS reviews on this model I`m quite confident I`ll be happy.
Great review Tom!.Have had the Dedica for a year now (black) & recently modified the portafilter to bottomless with a HUGH basket (Amazon).It’s made a great little machine even better!.It’s an easy choice when looking to upgrade to the new Dedica Arte machine which you’ve also reviewed
Hi Tom, thanks for this amazing, straight forward & informative review - my Dedica EC685BK is due to arrive tomorrow. Your video has given me confidence in the product I have chosen (based on basic reviews), & how to use & improve its performance. Very valuable UA-cam content for me. Thank you so much.
I bought the machine and the portafilter was very difficult hard to turn to lock. So I just put just a bit of vegetable oil with ear cleaner stick on the silicon gasket and on lock places. Now it goes so smooth.
I have been using this machine alongside a Graef CM 800 for a number of years now. I bought them on sale for just a total of 210€. Both machines have a whole lot of critics on the internet, but I am very happy with the coffee they produce. Thanks for showing some potential improvements that I am going to explore.
After watching this video, I have bought this machine and I am very satisfied with it. That is the best machine I've ever had before. However I would like to tell about a little tip in order to better optimize its use. The filter is made in a cylindrical shape on its upper part and then takes a conical shape in its lower part. I found that it was preferable to fill the filter with coffee so that once pressed, it does not exceed the line which separates the cylindrical shape at the top from the conical one at the bottom in order to avoid problems with the filter holder engaging the machine. 7g of coffee like it is indicated on the user manual it's Ok, but 14g for the 2 cups filter, it's a little too much, I encountered problem with the filter holder engaging the machine with this quantity of coffee. Hoping that this little tip could be useful to someone.
What kind of problem?In Greece we put at Fredo Espesso 17-18 grams for the shaked cold coffee....The machine will brake what ...Can we use 2 doses of 9 grams to make it?And how long do we wait between 2 servings?
I’m in Thailand and seeing this machine frequently at homes I’ve stayed in. In USA I see delonghi machines and used to own one but not this model. It’s fun to use. I have a Breville that I really like a lot after owning maybe a half dozen machines. It’s super reliable and they also have great customer service and repairs. One service in about ten years.
Thank you for that video. I just bought this machine for my grandma as a xmas gift. Your movie is very helpfull to explain her how to make coffe with this.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for putting these videos! You saved me countless hours of research and a LOT of money :) Out of curiosity, is there really any difference in taste between machines such as the Dedica and the high end prosumer products provided the coffee and milk is the same? I used a Simonelli Musica before and I am getting pretty much similar results with the Dedica and I haven't really dialed the latter in completely. This makes me wonder what the advantage of those expensive machines really is.
Thank you for this video.Really helpful. I recently bought the Dedica, plus the bottomless portafilter and a Timemore Chesnut C3 Pro. So I've playing with both portafilters and different grinds with good coffee beans. What I've realized is that with the pressurised portafilter I get a softer and sweeter shot, still a good one, while with the bottomless is way more intense.
I bought the exact same haha What grind and dose settings are you using? I found I was tamping too hard at the start and also had too fine of a grind using the 7-8 clicks recommended on the C3 pro for espresso - The portafilter popped off from pressure. Finally dialed it in at 9 clicks and 19g coffee but wondering if you've had any better results?
@@evinoc I was using 7 clicks for naked portafilter and 9 for the pressurised. But I've moved to the K4 Kingrinder. Makes life much easier. But I miss the size and look of the Timemore.
@@genciestebanez1314i have the dedica and just got the k4 and a bottomless non pressurized basket portafilter. Can you help me by telling me why the extraction time increased to 75 seconds ? Compared to the normal around 25 seconds that the machine is pre programmed to run at when pressing the double cup option? I didnt change the settings on the machine yet. Should i just program the dedica to stop extracting when i reach the 2:1 ratio?
@@crabbynebula well, you have total control of the running time of the extraction. I usually use the single basket with 10-11 grs of coffee aiming to get a 1:3 ratio in around 30". So 33 grs of yield. And I always use the single cup buttom. For me the 1:2 ratio is quite a strong coffee, even with medium roast beans. Use a scale, it's your best friend to calibrate your espresso. Try always to use the same amount of coffee, and grind to get the ratio you like in 25-30". You can use the double cup buttom of the Dedica, but you´ll have to stop it once you get the desired yield. Once you know the time your beans need for the coffee you like, you can program it to stop at 25", 30" or any other time.
@@genciestebanez1314 thanks a lot for the info. My mistake...i wanted to say 75 grams not seconds. I finally switched to a more fine grind and now i get a better result. However, I still use a higher setting than what other people report when using the K4 (73-75 clicks) and i am curious why is that. Is it the coffee maybe that influences this? Other people usually say they dont do more than 65 or 68 clicks with the k4. I am curious if i could somehow test whether the coffee beans i currently have are good eg freshly roasted enough
This was all facts you spoke of man. I have had this machine for 4 years now and the bottomless portafilter is the way to go. Fresh roast coffee is always key. Thanks for this video.
Thank you for this video. This helped me make up my mind, I love the variation provided when it comes to filters. Lovely design, too and would fit perfectly to my small kitchen counter. I love that I could make a "beginner" level coffe when I am in a rush in the morning, and maybe take it to the next level during the weekends, when I have more time :) Thank you!
It is not expresso machine, but espresso appliance. But it is really one of the best ones. I have got EC685 at home for 4 year already and I love it. It's simple to use for beginners. I have also moved ahead with buying Eureka Mignon grinder and using whole beans fresh roast coffee with bottomless portafilter and single-wall basket. Next move will be buying a better machine such as Gaggia Classic or Rancilio Silvia.
I bought a bottomless portafilter with a normal basket and I think that actually the bottomless portafilter wasn’t really necessary, the espresso has the same taste only with the non pressurised basket on the original portafilter. I tried both and actually think that the original portafilter fits much more tightly the machine . I want to actually buy a two way portafilter like in the professional machines. And can do two single coffees as well if I want to. My machine is Delonghi Icona 15 bars, I have also Alessi Cuban 8 bars and this one really makes much nicer espresso !! With the same grind and coffee as Delonghi it produces more cream and fills the cup slowly not like the Delonghi ,can berely reach 20 sec. The machines play a big role for a good coffee .
Thanks for the zipper tip. I literally had that plastic flying into milk 2 times this week with pressure. I will zip it, since I can really make vortex without aluminum piece off.
I just purchased the Krups Divine Espresso Machine .. was searching for UA-cam videos .. anyway, your video popped up .. looked like the machines had similar features so, I watched your video very nice! If i ever find myself in a situation where I would need to purchase another machine ..I think I would choose the Delonghi Dedica 😊
Love your Dedica vids! My 680 has a shorter rubber froth tip and could barely dip below surface of the milk, so I upgraded to the rancillio. Turns out my favorite drink is Americano anyway but the new tip gives options.
Hi Tom, I think that when reviewing this machine, you and other UA-camrs should really stress, that while all these accessories and techniques can be nice and make your overall experience better, it (at least from my experience) only applies to Dark roasts and pre-ground coffees but definitely not for specialty. Even when paired up with Breville Smart Grinder Pro I had a very frustrating time when trying to brew specialty medium roasts with it no matter what I tried. I've since graduated to Gaggia and will actually be picking up Breville Dual Boiler today so I've experienced that journey and would just want to warn somebody planning on brewing specialty with this to save up a bit more and get something better right off the bat instead. Hell, I might even make a video comparing the three haha. Thanks for the video and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the feedback, Arian. Sure, it would be cool if you would make a video. Some people have had success with temp surfing with the steam mode hack. But yeah, light and medium roasts can be more difficult on economical machines. Let us know how you like the BDB. Cheers!
Hallo Tom, Thanks for making these videos, they really help with the Dedica! You inspired me to buy one EC685, however I have some issues with the coffee it makes. Grinder: Timemore Slim Plus (E&B burrs) Setting: 7 (kinda dangerous for the blades) 14 g coffee, 2-3 months old, medium roast from Vietnam Bottomless portafilter with IMS 14g basket, warmed up, dried. Clumps broken up by a toothpick. I hit the bottom of the portafilter gently to the counter to increase puck density. Then I tamp. In 20 seconds more than 30-35 g of liquid goes to the cup with very slim crema. The taste is waaaay too sour. It’s bad. What else can I do to slow down the water flow? I cannot grind finer, you know it, as we have similar grinders. I tried with different beans, but i wasn’t lucky with those either.
Hi Peter, what market are you in? Maybe I could suggest some beans. Anyway, are the Vietnamese beans a lighter roast? You can try the steam mode hack. What else I found with the Timemore grinders is, that they don't grind consistently if that inner burr has too much play. Have you seen my recent video about shimming that up? It has helped the extractions to look much better. But back to the crema, that has mostly to do with the bean, and a fine grind. I might suggest a local roaster, just get 250 grams of beans 2-3 weeks off roast. Cheers! Tom
Hello Tom. Thank you very much for that informative video that covers almost everything with the EC 685. I am using this this one for a couple of months. When I use a pre-grind beans for a French Press or have it myself with my Hario Skerton Plus, the machine is working fine. However using a freshly roasted and grind beans for espresso machine happen to clog it. With the later, I have to tamp it very firmly to have a flow. Can it be because I still use pressurized basket or the machine is not capable of providing necessary water pressure?
Really helpful video, thank you 🙂 recently picked up a secondhand 680 and have been watching so many tutorials! Did you mention something about controling how much espresso it will deliver? Do you hold down the cup button whilst it runs, on a normal shot, then release when needed? Hopefully that makes sense! Many thanks
Um....Thank you again! I have watched your descaling video. I may not have done it correctly before. Luckily, I live in Sydney, Australia, where the water is not as harsh as other places. Thanks again!
Hi Tom, very good video! I have been using a dedica 685 for the last 2 months with pretty much OK results. I have been using both ESE pods and freshly roasted beans, but for some reason it seems that the extraction is better with the pods. There it takes around 23 sec to get the espresso and one can see water flows at decent flow rate while when grinding the beans myself it flows much faster (10 -12sec). Have tried grinding a bit finer but today the coffee felt really acid even though beans were roasted last week and smell pretty amazing in their bag. How fine is fine? I used a Hario mini slim plus with 3 "clicks". Should I start playing with water temperature? Or have more coffee to slow it down a bit? I'm using 9 grams per cup with default settings from ec685. Also does your steamer provides constant steam flow? In mine the pump makes a loud sound every second and the steam flow follows that pattern. I didn't hear that sound in your video so I wonder if that's normal. I can't get decent creamy milk for cappuccino i mainly get milk with lots of foam 😢
Hey Andres, thanks for watching, and thanks for your thorough comment! I have not used the Hario Slim, but for espresso you need a very fine grind, and ideally a consistent one. What size basket are you using, a single or double? 9 grams is fine for a single, but a double needs 14-16 grams. Extraction temperature will have an impact on taste (sourness or bitterness), but you first need to try getting a 2:1 ratio in 20-25 seconds. My steamer works fine...you just need to find the right angle to get a swirl going. Cheers! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I wondered if it was that ratio when you pulled the shot with the 14g in the non pressurized porta filter. It seemed to be much more liquid out then just 28g. Is there a reason why you pulled a much longer shot in the video?
I just got a delonghi Dedica 785 machine, and your instructions are very helpful to me. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge! Have a good day.
I own one of these machines. It is great for just having morning coffee. It is not the greatest but it is way better than going to a coffee shop every morning. I recommend it. And if you live in NYC metro, Cerini coffee on Arthur Ave, can fix your machine for around 100 or so when the pump breaks. Which it will break. So it is worth repairing at least once
Hello Scott! Thanks for your comment. Actually it is normally the OPV Valve that goes, not the pump. But those can be bought for $5, and switched out yourself if you are a little handy. I made a video about it: ua-cam.com/video/ncoZ3XyhWC8/v-deo.html But yes $100 for an overhaul in NYC is a good option too. Cheers!
Like everyone else, great video. A simple and complete explanation for all of us Dedica owners. Finally, you compare the Dedica filter and the porta filter. I use Lavazza espresso italiano, when using the porta filter, cream never comes out, only coffee that doesn't even look like yours. The porta filter is of the brand Neouza / Amazon. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for the answer 👍
Thankyou for your video.. I have watched many. The main reason is I had a lot of trouble programing the machine.No one ever mentions this.And thats important to get it right. Quite often the steamer stops too soon.Or if your not careful you get hot water going into your milk. And it dilutes the coffee.
Hello Kath! Yes, programming the machine is important, and not that intuitive. I made a short video about it here, for your reference: ua-cam.com/video/M8NBbSyHDO0/v-deo.html Purging the steam wand is important too, to not dilute the milk. Cheers!
so after watching the whole i gotta say very nice vid ! i own a dedica EC685 and what i did was to saw off the bottom part of the portafilter so i get a fully open portafilter and then replace the "double bottom" filter element (where the lower has just a single small opening to make fake crema) with a normal one with the standard amount of hole4s.
I’m guessing that your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago. Check out this short blog post: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/ These videos may also help: How to Get Crema: ua-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/v-deo.html Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ua-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/v-deo.html How to estimate bean roast age for Lavazza: ua-cam.com/users/liveQmVRpBGOokE How to extract the perfect espresso: ua-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/v-deo.html ***I’d recommend looking on google maps for local coffee roasters. That's the best way to ensure freshly roasted beans.
Very nice☕ I will try this machine today. I am going now to the shop. My 10years old delonghi perfecta is broken. I need good coffee. Its gonna be epic :)
Hi Tom! I bought everything, also i did modifying delonghi kg.521 for espresso. I tried to make espresso with lavazza, but I could not! Flow was too fast😢 Then I found local coffee roaster(in Kazakhstan), bought fresh Italian blend 80/20 arabica/robusta, tried it and finally got a perfect espresso 18g coffee 25seconds, 36 grams espresso. That is amazing, wanna say thank you, because of your massive content about that machine!
@@DIMHSLEON you just couldn’t put portafilter into delonghi with dose more than 14 grams with original portafilter. So my advise - do like Tom has shown. Buy bottomless portafilter, and you will get perfect shot ;-)
Bonjour, votre vidéo m'a décidé d'acheter cette machine. J'ai mis le sous titrage Français. Vous parlez trop vite pour moi. Merci très bonne vidéo, les accessoires devraient être vues plus longtemps, plein de gadgets à acheter.
This video was literally my guide to enhance the experience with this espresso machine. I even replaced the shower screen (btw very easy) and bought some accessories listed here in description. The coffee is much much tastier compared to one prepared with original parts.
Your videos are very helpful. I myself am thinking of purchasing this or the bambino plus. After this video i think im leaning towards the dedica. Many thanks :)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner it's about 180 USD difference here in Manila. I can use that money to buy a good tamper, non-pressurized basket and a reasonably good grinder. Thank you all for the suggestions!
Hi Tom, I have just bought a white Dedica and am a newbie to the process so please excuse my basic questions. 1. What is the theory behind the “two pitcher method “ 2. When you remove the panarello , does that mean that you can only steam the milk and not just heat it? I am in Australia and some of the terminology in the manual is different to yours Kind regards Steve
The baskets - double and single, I understand. As a newbie what's the one for pods and how is it used differently? Is it for emptying the contents of pods?
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Did you use single shot on the bottomless basket or double? Thank you
@@carloslhemordegracia8425 Hey, I always use the double.
Thank you so much 😀
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I've seen A LOOOOOOOT of videos on espresso machines this past week, and this is by far the most down to earth, helpful, and "just what I was looking for and needed" video of them all!
Thank you!
Wow, thank you John! Really appreciate the candid feedback. 👍 Have fun with your choice!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I most definitely will, and now I feel confident it'll be the right decision for me 😁
@@JohnNoirSmith , I'm with you! had the same impression and just ordered one machine, will also order the suggested accessories for "enhanced mode" ! Thanks Tom for this video!!!
@@filipecb I've now had this machine for a few months, and HIGHLY recommend getting the suggested accessories!
Makes it pretty much perfect for me, and so easy to use 😊
Hi john, how do you feel about it after one year, i wanna buy it and I’m still a bit hesitant
This guy is chill and down to earth at once. Cool.
Bought it back in 2018 not a single issue and still as the first day despite being used daily. Beautiful machine that looks great in the kitchen and prepares really good coffees
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for sharing!
Same
Is it worth buying it now?
@@emirobinatoruit is!
Same. I have it from 2016. Use every day
You're the only professional one who shows up in the results, congrats 👏
As an owner of a dedica, this was so helpful in getting the most out of it. I'm a newbie in this world but this machine is so easy to use and versatile in functionality.
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy your machine!
Planning to buy this. Searched for the model and landed here. It’s so informative and very well explained. Thank you very much. Loved watching this, and you explaining so beautifully. 🙌🏻
Bought this machine 2 days ago and was flummoxed with the instructions. Your video was excellent, thank you
Glad it helped!
We've got one of those at work - and it's a great machine for a small office environment. In enables 'ordinary' people to enjoy decent coffee with a push of a button. At the same time - the more 'nerdy' coffee enthusiast can play with the technique and the settings. The machine seems quite reliable too - ours is almost two yers old, and with regular cleaning and descaling it hasn't given us any problems.
I agree - mine has been going 5 years strong.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and skills with us in such an approachable way. I'm a beginner when it comes to coffee, and I really appreciate how you explained things - starting with basic and then moving on to more advanced methods, but without making it look daunting. You made the whole process look feasible, and now I'm even more interested in learning beyond the basic stuff.
Thank you for such wonderful feedback, Sue. That is really rewarding to hear. Cheers! Tom
The secret to great coffee is the beans or ground coffee you use, good quality, and also either a mix of two or three types of beans. I use a stovetop Percolator, I think in America they call them Moka Espresso Pot. This method takes longer, however, I think it does a better job of making better-tasting coffee espresso than the machines.
@@Mav_F Thanks for this tip! Sadly, I don't have a gas stove top as it's not allowed in my condo. I use an induction cooker instead, and I've tried using a moka pot on this cooker and it was terrifying to determine when it was time to take the pot off the cooker. There was a time the pot made a booming sound because there was too much pressure, I think? I also burned myself a couple of times. So umm I will be staying away from moka pots for some time. 😭
@@sabbathunlimited Oh not good. By the way, you can put it on any type of stovetop. You turn off the stove just before the coffee reaches the bottom of the Spigot hole if you put enough water in it. You should hear it coming up, not sure what the boom sound was. (Don't leave it on the stove or while it's not coming out anymore or you will burn the rubber and then it's not good anymore to use). You can use a teatowel to remove it from the stove carefully and then stir the coffee with a teaspoon to mix it properly then slowly pour it into a cup. When you aren't used to it, it can be difficult. I was brought up with it as a child as my parents are Italians.
I purchased this model and a bottomless porta filter a couple of days ago to replace my Breville 3 in one, after seeing your down to earth no BS reviews on this model I`m quite confident I`ll be happy.
Very nice! Thanks for your feedback!
Great review Tom!.Have had the Dedica for a year now (black) & recently modified the portafilter to bottomless with a HUGH basket (Amazon).It’s made a great little machine even better!.It’s an easy choice when looking to upgrade to the new Dedica Arte machine which you’ve also reviewed
Hey Ben, thanks for sharing. Glad you're enjoying your Dedica! I have never heard of the Hugh basket. Is that similar to the IMS?
Hi Tom, thanks for this amazing, straight forward & informative review - my Dedica EC685BK is due to arrive tomorrow.
Your video has given me confidence in the product I have chosen (based on basic reviews), & how to use & improve its performance. Very valuable UA-cam content for me. Thank you so much.
@@cheriemorgan-mcgrory3090 Awesome, thanks so much for your kind feedback! Have fun with your machine :-)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner - really great presentation! Lovely you replied! What an awesome human!
I bought the machine and the portafilter was very difficult hard to turn to lock. So I just put just a bit of vegetable oil with ear cleaner stick on the silicon gasket and on lock places. Now it goes so smooth.
Thanks for sharing, good to know! Cheers, Tom
You too, for your lovely videos :)
I have been using this machine alongside a Graef CM 800 for a number of years now. I bought them on sale for just a total of 210€. Both machines have a whole lot of critics on the internet, but I am very happy with the coffee they produce.
Thanks for showing some potential improvements that I am going to explore.
After watching this video, I have bought this machine and I am very satisfied with it. That is the best machine I've ever had before.
However I would like to tell about a little tip in order to better optimize its use.
The filter is made in a cylindrical shape on its upper part and then takes a conical shape in its lower part.
I found that it was preferable to fill the filter with coffee so that once pressed, it does not exceed the line which separates the cylindrical shape at the top from the conical one at the bottom in order to avoid problems with the filter holder engaging the machine.
7g of coffee like it is indicated on the user manual it's Ok, but 14g for the 2 cups filter, it's a little too much, I encountered problem with the filter holder engaging the machine with this quantity of coffee.
Hoping that this little tip could be useful to someone.
What kind of problem?In Greece we put at Fredo Espesso 17-18 grams for the shaked cold coffee....The machine will brake what ...Can we use 2 doses of 9 grams to make it?And how long do we wait between 2 servings?
I’m in Thailand and seeing this machine frequently at homes I’ve stayed in. In USA I see delonghi machines and used to own one but not this model. It’s fun to use. I have a Breville that I really like a lot after owning maybe a half dozen machines. It’s super reliable and they also have great customer service and repairs. One service in about ten years.
I learnt a lot. Thanks! Good pace, clear explanation and simple but effective filming.
Thanks a lot for the feedback! 👍
Thank you for that video. I just bought this machine for my grandma as a xmas gift. Your movie is very helpfull to explain her how to make coffe with this.
Oh, what a sweet comment. ;) tell your grandma I says hi! Tom
Tom will even get an espresso out of a fry pan! LOL. Amazing!
The extraction from the bottomless filter is pure therapy!
Thanks!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for putting these videos! You saved me countless hours of research and a LOT of money :) Out of curiosity, is there really any difference in taste between machines such as the Dedica and the high end prosumer products provided the coffee and milk is the same? I used a Simonelli Musica before and I am getting pretty much similar results with the Dedica and I haven't really dialed the latter in completely. This makes me wonder what the advantage of those expensive machines really is.
Whats the difference I didnt understand....The quality the taste what
Thank you for this video.Really helpful. I recently bought the Dedica, plus the bottomless portafilter and a Timemore Chesnut C3 Pro. So I've playing with both portafilters and different grinds with good coffee beans. What I've realized is that with the pressurised portafilter I get a softer and sweeter shot, still a good one, while with the bottomless is way more intense.
I bought the exact same haha What grind and dose settings are you using? I found I was tamping too hard at the start and also had too fine of a grind using the 7-8 clicks recommended on the C3 pro for espresso - The portafilter popped off from pressure. Finally dialed it in at 9 clicks and 19g coffee but wondering if you've had any better results?
@@evinoc I was using 7 clicks for naked portafilter and 9 for the pressurised. But I've moved to the K4 Kingrinder. Makes life much easier. But I miss the size and look of the Timemore.
@@genciestebanez1314i have the dedica and just got the k4 and a bottomless non pressurized basket portafilter. Can you help me by telling me why the extraction time increased to 75 seconds ? Compared to the normal around 25 seconds that the machine is pre programmed to run at when pressing the double cup option? I didnt change the settings on the machine yet. Should i just program the dedica to stop extracting when i reach the 2:1 ratio?
@@crabbynebula well, you have total control of the running time of the extraction. I usually use the single basket with 10-11 grs of coffee aiming to get a 1:3 ratio in around 30". So 33 grs of yield. And I always use the single cup buttom. For me the 1:2 ratio is quite a strong coffee, even with medium roast beans. Use a scale, it's your best friend to calibrate your espresso. Try always to use the same amount of coffee, and grind to get the ratio you like in 25-30". You can use the double cup buttom of the Dedica, but you´ll have to stop it once you get the desired yield. Once you know the time your beans need for the coffee you like, you can program it to stop at 25", 30" or any other time.
@@genciestebanez1314 thanks a lot for the info. My mistake...i wanted to say 75 grams not seconds. I finally switched to a more fine grind and now i get a better result. However, I still use a higher setting than what other people report when using the K4 (73-75 clicks) and i am curious why is that. Is it the coffee maybe that influences this? Other people usually say they dont do more than 65 or 68 clicks with the k4. I am curious if i could somehow test whether the coffee beans i currently have are good eg freshly roasted enough
This was all facts you spoke of man. I have had this machine for 4 years now and the bottomless portafilter is the way to go. Fresh roast coffee is always key. Thanks for this video.
Well said! Fresh roast is #1!
Thank you for this video. This helped me make up my mind, I love the variation provided when it comes to filters. Lovely design, too and would fit perfectly to my small kitchen counter. I love that I could make a "beginner" level coffe when I am in a rush in the morning, and maybe take it to the next level during the weekends, when I have more time :) Thank you!
After watching this video i dont have any question to ask. Nicely presented.
Awesome, Mumtaz, thanks for your feedback!
It is not expresso machine, but espresso appliance. But it is really one of the best ones. I have got EC685 at home for 4 year already and I love it. It's simple to use for beginners. I have also moved ahead with buying Eureka Mignon grinder and using whole beans fresh roast coffee with bottomless portafilter and single-wall basket. Next move will be buying a better machine such as Gaggia Classic or Rancilio Silvia.
I do agree that it is simple to use, has great ergonomics, and can make real nice espresso. Enjoy your espresso journey!
Hi, could you tell me what Eureka Mignon did you use?
Thank you for a great explanation and demonstration without interfering with gimmicks. I appreciate your pleasant attitude in your presentation.
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
Great video! Thank you 🙏 Just bought myself a Dedica 685. This video is very helpful. Looking forward to trying the coffee from the Dedica.
Glad it was helpful! Have fun with your Dedica!
I have this machine for about 5 years now... only good coffee and no troubles as far!
Nice work Tom, very complete guide. As a new owner of a dedica its very helpful all the tips and hacks that you provide
Glad you enjoyed it, Giovanni! Now it's time for some nice coffee! Hope you have fun with it!
thanks tom! you seem like a really lovely guy. sometimes I watch your videos when I'm sad and they make me happy again : )
Thanks for your kind comment, Ned. I appreciate it!
I bought a bottomless portafilter with a normal basket and I think that actually the bottomless portafilter wasn’t really necessary, the espresso has the same taste only with the non pressurised basket on the original portafilter. I tried both and actually think that the original portafilter fits much more tightly the machine . I want to actually buy a two way portafilter like in the professional machines. And can do two single coffees as well if I want to. My machine is Delonghi Icona 15 bars, I have also Alessi Cuban 8 bars and this one really makes much nicer espresso !! With the same grind and coffee as Delonghi it produces more cream and fills the cup slowly not like the Delonghi ,can berely reach 20 sec. The machines play a big role for a good coffee .
I've had my machine for, ahem, a while now, and this guide takes my caffeine addiction to a new level of happy!
THANKS Tom! 😁
Haha, sounds like a plan. :)
Thanks for the zipper tip. I literally had that plastic flying into milk 2 times this week with pressure. I will zip it, since I can really make vortex without aluminum piece off.
Glad it was helpful!
I just purchased the Krups Divine Espresso Machine .. was searching for UA-cam videos .. anyway, your video popped up .. looked like the machines had similar features so, I watched your video very nice! If i ever find myself in a situation where I would need to purchase another machine ..I think I would choose the Delonghi Dedica 😊
Love your Dedica vids! My 680 has a shorter rubber froth tip and could barely dip below surface of the milk, so I upgraded to the rancillio. Turns out my favorite drink is Americano anyway but the new tip gives options.
Very nice, Vic! Yes, the Rancilio mod is more necessary on the EC680...with the EC685 the rubber tip is just long enough. Happy coffee drinking!
I bought one this morning. Couldn't be happier with it
Great news! I am happy to hear that. I quite like this machine, too.
Hi Tom, I think that when reviewing this machine, you and other UA-camrs should really stress, that while all these accessories and techniques can be nice and make your overall experience better, it (at least from my experience) only applies to Dark roasts and pre-ground coffees but definitely not for specialty. Even when paired up with Breville Smart Grinder Pro I had a very frustrating time when trying to brew specialty medium roasts with it no matter what I tried. I've since graduated to Gaggia and will actually be picking up Breville Dual Boiler today so I've experienced that journey and would just want to warn somebody planning on brewing specialty with this to save up a bit more and get something better right off the bat instead. Hell, I might even make a video comparing the three haha. Thanks for the video and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the feedback, Arian. Sure, it would be cool if you would make a video. Some people have had success with temp surfing with the steam mode hack. But yeah, light and medium roasts can be more difficult on economical machines. Let us know how you like the BDB. Cheers!
Best video about Delonghi in Internet. Regards from Brazil 🇧🇷
That's so kind of you to say - thanks for your feedback!
Great video, even for beginners. Keep up the good work 👌
Thank you, kind sir!
Have it since 2-3 years, works very well, quality product
Hallo Tom,
Thanks for making these videos, they really help with the Dedica! You inspired me to buy one EC685, however I have some issues with the coffee it makes.
Grinder: Timemore Slim Plus (E&B burrs)
Setting: 7 (kinda dangerous for the blades)
14 g coffee, 2-3 months old, medium roast from Vietnam
Bottomless portafilter with IMS 14g basket, warmed up, dried.
Clumps broken up by a toothpick. I hit the bottom of the portafilter gently to the counter to increase puck density. Then I tamp.
In 20 seconds more than 30-35 g of liquid goes to the cup with very slim crema. The taste is waaaay too sour. It’s bad.
What else can I do to slow down the water flow? I cannot grind finer, you know it, as we have similar grinders.
I tried with different beans, but i wasn’t lucky with those either.
Hi Peter, what market are you in? Maybe I could suggest some beans. Anyway, are the Vietnamese beans a lighter roast? You can try the steam mode hack.
What else I found with the Timemore grinders is, that they don't grind consistently if that inner burr has too much play. Have you seen my recent video about shimming that up? It has helped the extractions to look much better.
But back to the crema, that has mostly to do with the bean, and a fine grind. I might suggest a local roaster, just get 250 grams of beans 2-3 weeks off roast.
Cheers!
Tom
Thanks for this review. I used it to help decide what machine to buy (got this model in red!) Now I have revisited to look at the enhancements.
Awesome, thanks for sharing! Have fun experimenting!
Hello Tom. Thank you very much for that informative video that covers almost everything with the EC 685. I am using this this one for a couple of months. When I use a pre-grind beans for a French Press or have it myself with my Hario Skerton Plus, the machine is working fine. However using a freshly roasted and grind beans for espresso machine happen to clog it. With the later, I have to tamp it very firmly to have a flow.
Can it be because I still use pressurized basket or the machine is not capable of providing necessary water pressure?
Hi Ozgur! You will need an unpressurized basket when grinding fine for espresso. I have some linked in the description box. Cheers!
thank you Tom, it's completely a simple review but this is what i need in a video, it's pretty good review
Glad you liked it, Fahruli. Hope it was helpful!
Really helpful video, thank you 🙂 recently picked up a secondhand 680 and have been watching so many tutorials! Did you mention something about controling how much espresso it will deliver? Do you hold down the cup button whilst it runs, on a normal shot, then release when needed? Hopefully that makes sense! Many thanks
Yes Becky, that is exactly right! Just hold down the button until the amount you want has been delivered. It will remember that for next time.
Thank You 🙂
@@TomsCoffeeCorner remind me what the different is between the models? I know you mentioned color but what else? I have the 680.
Um....Thank you again! I have watched your descaling video. I may not have done it correctly before. Luckily, I live in Sydney, Australia, where the water is not as harsh as other places.
Thanks again!
Hi Tom, very good video! I have been using a dedica 685 for the last 2 months with pretty much OK results. I have been using both ESE pods and freshly roasted beans, but for some reason it seems that the extraction is better with the pods. There it takes around 23 sec to get the espresso and one can see water flows at decent flow rate while when grinding the beans myself it flows much faster (10 -12sec). Have tried grinding a bit finer but today the coffee felt really acid even though beans were roasted last week and smell pretty amazing in their bag. How fine is fine? I used a Hario mini slim plus with 3 "clicks". Should I start playing with water temperature? Or have more coffee to slow it down a bit? I'm using 9 grams per cup with default settings from ec685.
Also does your steamer provides constant steam flow? In mine the pump makes a loud sound every second and the steam flow follows that pattern. I didn't hear that sound in your video so I wonder if that's normal. I can't get decent creamy milk for cappuccino i mainly get milk with lots of foam 😢
Hey Andres, thanks for watching, and thanks for your thorough comment!
I have not used the Hario Slim, but for espresso you need a very fine grind, and ideally a consistent one.
What size basket are you using, a single or double? 9 grams is fine for a single, but a double needs 14-16 grams.
Extraction temperature will have an impact on taste (sourness or bitterness), but you first need to try getting a 2:1 ratio in 20-25 seconds.
My steamer works fine...you just need to find the right angle to get a swirl going. Cheers! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCornerHi! As a beginner in the home brewing world, I wonder what you mean by a 2:1 ratio in 20-25 seconds. Good video by the way. Thanks!
@@gonzaloperalta245 Hi! That means 14 grams of coffee powder in, and 28 grams of espresso liquid out. 👍🏻
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I wondered if it was that ratio when you pulled the shot with the 14g in the non pressurized porta filter. It seemed to be much more liquid out then just 28g. Is there a reason why you pulled a much longer shot in the video?
Super hilfreich! Ich liebe deine Videos! Total authentisch, leidenschaftlich und sympathisch! 🤗
Das ist voll lieb von der Marco - vielen dank!
I just got a delonghi Dedica 785 machine, and your instructions are very helpful to me. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge! Have a good day.
I own one of these machines. It is great for just having morning coffee. It is not the greatest but it is way better than going to a coffee shop every morning. I recommend it. And if you live in NYC metro, Cerini coffee on Arthur Ave, can fix your machine for around 100 or so when the pump breaks. Which it will break. So it is worth repairing at least once
Hello Scott! Thanks for your comment. Actually it is normally the OPV Valve that goes, not the pump. But those can be bought for $5, and switched out yourself if you are a little handy. I made a video about it: ua-cam.com/video/ncoZ3XyhWC8/v-deo.html
But yes $100 for an overhaul in NYC is a good option too. Cheers!
Like everyone else, great video. A simple and complete explanation for all of us Dedica owners. Finally, you compare the Dedica filter and the porta filter. I use Lavazza espresso italiano, when using the porta filter, cream never comes out, only coffee that doesn't even look like yours. The porta filter is of the brand Neouza / Amazon. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for the answer 👍
This might be helpful: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/
Ich hab diese Maschine seit 3 Jahren. Vielen Dank für deine Tipps zum optimieren
i just got this machine and this video is what i was looking for to improve my lattes thank you so much!!! 🤩🤩🤩
Your pronunciation is suitable to be taught at our German schools - I am absolutely impressed - not only because of your coffee contributions !!!!!
This machine is the best starting point for everyone who wants to learn how it works.
I can agree with that, Gunter!
i love how understated you are...never change
Thank you sir!
Excellent informative review. Just got one of these and this answers all of my questions.
The white one really looks good.
Thanks for the review it was exactly what I was looking for!
Thankyou for your video..
I have watched many.
The main reason is I had a lot of trouble programing the machine.No one ever mentions this.And thats important to get it right.
Quite often the steamer stops too soon.Or if your not careful you get hot water going into your milk.
And it dilutes the coffee.
Hello Kath! Yes, programming the machine is important, and not that intuitive. I made a short video about it here, for your reference: ua-cam.com/video/M8NBbSyHDO0/v-deo.html
Purging the steam wand is important too, to not dilute the milk. Cheers!
I do get my beans grounded at Starbucks to fine grind then used within 2 or 3 wks. Thanks for your reply Tom. 😊
I learnt a lot. Thanks! Good pace, clear explanation and simple. Coffe is very delicious.
Glad it helped, and thanks for your feedback!
so after watching the whole i gotta say very nice vid ! i own a dedica EC685 and what i did was to saw off the bottom part of the portafilter so i get a fully open portafilter and then replace the "double bottom" filter element (where the lower has just a single small opening to make fake crema) with a normal one with the standard amount of hole4s.
Very complete video. I really appreciate all the information u shared with us. Thank you so much Sir.
silver but i have the black version , never seem to get any crema when i use it. this is with a portafilter also. thanks for another great vid.
I’m guessing that your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
Check out this short blog post: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/
These videos may also help:
How to Get Crema: ua-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/v-deo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ua-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/v-deo.html
How to estimate bean roast age for Lavazza: ua-cam.com/users/liveQmVRpBGOokE
How to extract the perfect espresso: ua-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/v-deo.html
***I’d recommend looking on google maps for local coffee roasters. That's the best way to ensure freshly roasted beans.
Thanks for videos! Due to your videos I bought a black one and are very happy with it so far!
Awesome! Happy to hear it. 😉
Bought the machine, thanks for the video! Helped me to decide.
Fantastic video! didn't know all this options I had with this machine! Will definitely try the "Enhanced" version!
Glad it was helpful, Nico! Have fun using this machine in advanced mode!
Your video is awesome. Great to see videos like this. U saved me alot of money
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
Very nice☕ I will try this machine today. I am going now to the shop. My 10years old delonghi perfecta is broken. I need good coffee. Its gonna be epic :)
I’ve just bought silver one a I love this little machine ❤️ also thanks for your helpful videos ❤️
Nice review man! New to the coffee game here but I found this video very interesting. Keep up the good work 😊
Thanks, Brian! I appreciate the feedback! Tom
currently using the ec260, in my opinion I prefer it to the dedica :) Keep up the good content!!!
Hi Tom! I bought everything, also i did modifying delonghi kg.521 for espresso. I tried to make espresso with lavazza, but I could not! Flow was too fast😢 Then I found local coffee roaster(in Kazakhstan), bought fresh Italian blend 80/20 arabica/robusta, tried it and finally got a perfect espresso 18g coffee 25seconds, 36 grams espresso. That is amazing, wanna say thank you, because of your massive content about that machine!
Fantastic! Glad to hear you're on the right path. :)
They said you cant put 18 grams of coffee only 14 for the double dose...You changed the portafilter?
@@DIMHSLEON yeap, bottomless portafilter and basket
@@RabindranatSo if you dont change the portafilter the biggest dose of coffee is 14 grams?Bigger dose will break the machine?
@@DIMHSLEON you just couldn’t put portafilter into delonghi with dose more than 14 grams with original portafilter. So my advise - do like Tom has shown. Buy bottomless portafilter, and you will get perfect shot ;-)
Worth my investment, been 2 half years
Thanks for the video. New to the espresso world and this was amazing helpful.
Glad it was helpful! Have fun!
Ordered a red machine today. Look forward to getting into these hacks. Appreciate the content. Subscribed!
Great video thanks for sharing the links too. About to make my first coffee using this machine. We went for silver in the end! ☕️
Very nice Adam, thank you for sharing! Happy coffee drinking ☕️
Bonjour, votre vidéo m'a décidé d'acheter cette machine. J'ai mis le sous titrage Français. Vous parlez trop vite pour moi. Merci très bonne vidéo, les accessoires devraient être vues plus longtemps, plein de gadgets à acheter.
Fantastic video. I am gonna get one with all extra stuff you reconmended.
Most excellent presentation, I'm sold!
Thanks a lot for this video. Quite useful mate! I just got the machine as my Christmas gift 😀 I'm going to give it a try. Happy holidays
Hope you enjoy it! Happy coffee drinking!
like you decription of the machine. Plain and simple 🙂
I have a black color version,I like it ,looks perfect on the kitchen
Very nice! My favorite is white, then beige. Cheers!
Thank you so mutch! Just what I need. Have alredy ordern one and I think it was right chose
This video was literally my guide to enhance the experience with this espresso machine. I even replaced the shower screen (btw very easy) and bought some accessories listed here in description. The coffee is much much tastier compared to one prepared with original parts.
Excellent, thanks for sharing, and happy coffee drinking!
This is a brill tutorial, thank you very much 😊
Glad it was helpful! Have fun experimenting!
Thank you for such a detailed review. Very very useful, inspirational and helpful
Glad it was helpful, Mike! Thanks for watching!
Great review. I am going to advanced mode. Bottomless handle coffee extraction looked awesome
Very nice, enjoy experimenting with this machine. 👍🏻
We have two red Dedicas and love the color
pretty cool and informative in a positive way
Excellent review!!! Amazing tips for beginners
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching!
Excellent and very clear explanations…
Cheers, 🙋🏻♂️🥃
Great video! A huge help, thank you!
Your videos are very helpful. I myself am thinking of purchasing this or the bambino plus. After this video i think im leaning towards the dedica. Many thanks :)
As a Dedica owner, i'd say get Bambino plus or the regular Bambino if the price is very close to Dedica for the lower pressure out of the box
Go for it! I like the Bambino just fine, but the Dedica cannot be beat for the price, in my opinion.
I agree with this. If the prices are similar, than feel free to go for the Bambino. Otherwise, the Dedica will do just fine. 👍
@@TomsCoffeeCorner it's about 180 USD difference here in Manila. I can use that money to buy a good tamper, non-pressurized basket and a reasonably good grinder. Thank you all for the suggestions!
@@oyets1 Awesome! Where do you buy from in Manila? Do you have something like an Amazon there?
Hi Tom, I have just bought a white Dedica and am a newbie to the process so please excuse my basic questions.
1. What is the theory behind the “two pitcher method “
2. When you remove the panarello , does that mean that you can only steam the milk and not just heat it?
I am in Australia and some of the terminology in the manual is different to yours
Kind regards
Steve
Nice Review and Thanks for Sharing 👍
Очень не плохая и компактная кофе машина,спасибо большое за видео обзор ))
Totally agree! Thanks for watching. Tom
The baskets - double and single, I understand. As a newbie what's the one for pods and how is it used differently? Is it for emptying the contents of pods?
Thank you for this amazing video, it’s really helpful. May I know how can I buy the exact grinder you used?