Just a couple of guys in a shed, building custom tools and electronics from scratch, so they can build custom tools and electronics from scratch, so they can build custom brackets, so they can build a mini (made mostly of brackets) Always a pleasure, gentlemen.
"We wanted a part that could theoretically be 3D printed, so we created a new process for 3D printing and built our own 3D printer" is the Binkiest thing that has happened on this project.
Why not do it the "old school way" - layout the board with tape on clear film, use photoresist on a copper plated board and then etch off the excess copper. I've done that and got excellent results without having to use a computer!
Or JLB. Out of interest, is it me not looking in the right place, or have electronic project boxes rocketed in price? In the Maplin catalogue days they cost a couple of quid, now they cost close to £20!
This is not just engineering or science, this is Wallace and Grommit in a shed with a 1980 mini and the vision and will to create something of monumental significance. Forget the Industrial Revolution, this is transformational, this is transcendental, this is... Shropshire. 'But I have other virtues, father, ambition, resourcefulness, courage... devotion.'
I've been into 3D printers for 6yrs+, coding for a 30yrs, and building electronic projects for 40yrs+.... NEVER have I seen a hack as impressive as this...!!!! You claim to be race car builders, but in reality you're a genius... Outside the bracket thinking... X
I must say, I didn't really understand it when I watched the video. But now, having watched this, I don't understand it in much greater detail. Thanks a lot!
Let me help... So, instead of spending a few hundred pounds on 10 different iterations of a diy designed commercially made circuit board, these nut jobs did what they usually do. They spent probably a thousand pounds and hundreds more hours hand building a custom made 3d printer to print custom circuit boards using custom made solder. Having completed this exercise in insanity to avoid learning how to use PCB design software or prototyping board while they figure out how to make their gauges work, they'll now either go away and learn just that to have one PCB commercially manufactured, or they'll continue to avoid it by learning the much more difficult skill of etching PCBs for themselves. Basically, it's the typical insanity we've come to expect, and more importantly, enjoy.
Of all the insane things done for the sake of this build... Hand routing PCB traces in Inkscape is the work of an absolute maniac. Hats off to you both
This is a prime example of "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". Wait till they learn KiCAD exists lol. Won't be able to stop them at all 😂
Agreed! I can’t imagine the effort involved in that, it’s no small feat in dedicated PCB software that’s automatically referencing a schematic, the thought of doing that manually brings me out in a cold sweat!
This is total madness , BOM solving a problem that doesn't exist in the most complicated and expensive way possible , fantastic video , the electronics industry just looks on saying "EH" ? "What" ? "Why" ? ..... "Reasons " they are mad ...
Ahhhh, my life is complete - brackets were made! 10 out of 10 for ingenuity and persistence!👍 In 1974 when I worked for a computer company, we had a programmable calculator hooked up to three large weigh scales used by a concrete contractor building the National Library of Australia. The contract specified the colour of the concrete to be used. We started getting very irate service calls to say the calculator was going berserk and the three weigh scales were intermittently dumping incorrect loads of cement/gravel/water into the waiting truck - or all over the floor! Couldn't find anything wrong with our calculator... One day I was running diagnostics when suddenly the weigh scales sprang into action of their own accord - dumping loads of "concrete' onto the loading bay floor. I smelt a rat and asked what else they had on site... Oh, nothing, except the air compressor downstairs, they innocently replied. Luckily I had heard it start up just as the scales went bananas. We fitted the calculator with solid state relays and told the customer to get some surge suppression on his air compressor. Problem fixed, customer happy.🇦🇺
That is quite something- drawing and routing so many iterations of the board on Inkscape, developing an entirely new method for PCB fabrication by hacking a plethora of 3d printing and CNC hardware and software, all to be nearly brought down by nothing more than some ropey shed wiring….. you guys’ persistence and determination are on a completely different level! I loved the “200pound gorilla interface” joke, if you know you know 😂
As someone who regularly starts a "quick" job that turns out to be anything but, there's a degree of reassurance in learning about the trials of others. Of course I've never tried printing my own circuit boards (there lies madness), but power supply and equipment issues, that I can relate to.
This is the exact kind of (idiotic)optimism you mostly find in car enthusiasts: "Nah it shouldn't be that hard, take too long or cost anything" Keep it up boys, love your videos!
I haven't looked through the comments yet but - as a confirmed 3D printing "nerd" - I would like to bet that you have a whole raft of comments from fellow 3D printing nerds commenting on the total and utter *GENIOUS* of what you built there. For me this is the most impressive part of this entire build ... you sirs have my total respect!
You guys are absolute legends. It’s kind of hard to explain since English isn’t my best language, but you guys are such an inspiration! The stubbornness to make stuff work in combination with the talent you have, have thought me so many things, we have been learning along side you and I couldn’t be more grateful. Thank you so much for sharing much love❤
Considering how you can get JLPCB to make you a double sided proper circuit board for this application for probably below 100 quid, this is truly insane. I would not have expected anything else.
Considering that they could use a 3d printer and some etchant to make double sided boards at home this is definitely insane. Even a CNC router with a v bit would be better. It's like these guys had a brain fart of massive proportions or something.
@Imaboss8ball I think you've misunderstood the basic reasons behind the entire project. They're doing it because they can, not because it makes sense or is a responsible use of time/money/whatever. Otherwise we would not have a Mini with a Toyota drive train and custom everything with extra brackets. We'd have something much more boring.
I was wondering that too. However, given the wide variety of hole sizes, the large size of the board, the brass work needed for some components, this would probably be an expensive thing to push though your average "for amateurs, one-offs" PCB shop. Weirdly, having got this insane idea working, they do actually have something quite significant. They've made large-scale, low tech low volume circuit boards cheap to make. There is a market out there for such things. Certainly, one could iterate designs of this scale very easily, only opting for a proper PCB at the end when it's all working.
@@abarratt8869 Which is exactly the reason they stated (and shown) in the previous video, yes. Figuring it out as you go along is a lot harder if you have to scrap and start over every time.
I feel like the footage of the printing process is some kind of hypnotic payback for the hours you spent doing exactly the same thing... put my brain on standby mode watching that... my coffee went cold
Excellent, when I loose motivation for my projects. I just watch one of your episodes. It is also good to see that you have done many trials. Its seems I have to redo at least 3 times for what ever reason. You are a huge inspiration thank you.
We have a problem at work with one of our servo driven machines randomly loosing its marbles and trying to send the slides to 3000 mm away, which is an issue due to the maximum travel is 100mm . We have been chasing this problem for a year and a half now. We have suspected a servo power supply problem, watching this video has given me a bingo moment, it could be the mains power ! Will be reconnecting the fker to another power circuit to if it fixes the problem. Thank you BOM for the video.
Please report back if that fixes it! (I imagine there's some modern equivalent of a strip-chart recorder that you could hook up to the mains power and/or the servo power supply to make long-time recordings that would help with this sort of thing, too.)
love it. big fan of learning the ins and outs of every part of a project. the next project will be fun to imagine, with many more possibilities from the outset and a lot more that can be done in a given amount of time. also, locating issues, like those related to the mains, and fixing them, give added peace of mind and benefits of a more general nature. thanks for providing so much vicarious satisfaction!
You say people are complaining about what you managed to do? Really don't think they truly appreciate what a complicated task you mad lads managed to sort out with pretty much just a "can do" attitude and a bit of scraps. I really applaud your journey and willingness to tackle obstacles. Thank you!
Watching that nozzle lay down solder is truly mesmerizing. Back in the day when I was a draftsman, I spent my day drawing schematics and wiring diagrams, and I guess a little of that mentality is still in my noggin somewhere. Ironically, when all is said and done, the end result of this exercise is that all Binky’s gauges will work. Doesn’t seem like a big deal, but my, what a process.
Now i am tenacious when it comes to building and fixing stuff, but after all the part failures i think that even i would have given up on that. Bloody spur! Incredible as always
necessity is the mother of all inventions...and the BOM creativity knows no bounds apparently. This project goes so much further than just a car project!
I don't think they crossed the line exactly. I think it's like with water and steam; once you put enough energy into it (pressure and temperature in the case of steam), it goes supercritical and the line between the two simply vanishes.
Yep. You are actually insane. Something that could have been done in a couple of says for a few quid by a company that makes PCBs, or in the old fashioned way with copper clad board, photo-resist and etchant... and you do this. Magnificent. Also bonkers in the nut.
@@richbrown5852this will fall apart from vibrations, there is a reason why most critical connections in most critical systems in cars are crimped or pressure fitted and not soldered. That solder traces are too brittle for what they're supposed to do
@@richbrown5852 Here's a few obvious reasons why a solder only PCB is not a goot idea: - the traces are fragile (they're not afixed to the board but simple deposited) - it's impossible to re-work the board (you can't fix a trace using your solder iron like you would a copper PCB) - the resistance of solder is 8 (eight) times higher than that of copper I don't see an upside besides "it's cool, nobody does it" (and for good reasons I must add)
3D printing. Until this moment, used for plastic toys that hobbyists threw out after a few months. Now the future just started. Using solder to print a circuit board is just mind blowing.
You chaps are bloody amazing, if we ever need a new version of the spitfire, do you mind if we pop round? As it was folk like yourselves that saved good old Blighty the last time there was a bit of a hiccup! Glad we still produce good folk like yourselves, thank you
I have seen many ways to produce prints in my time, but not this one. So it's surely innovative! That being said, making a PCB is so much easier when you do it 'the normal way'. Basically you need your layout printed on a see-through laminate sheeth, put it in a light sensitive PCB, and put the whole thing under UV light, like an old face-browning lamp. Then develop, and lastly etch.
And how did you make the mask? A black pen or Letraset rub-on transfer sheets. Both ways sometimes left miniscule cracks in the tracks that needed fixing buy soldering bits of wire as a bridge.
There's two mates bashing things together in a shed, and then there's this: two mates bashing things together in a shed... with a budget. Cheers. And congratulations on finding that power issue. I would have ripped my hair out trying to find that.
Haha, when you find out the nextdoor unit has taped in to your power supply to run their welders, i discovered this in my unit weny a guy came to visit me & asked why do your lights keep dimming, i had no idea just alway done it since i moved in, he said you don't have anything in the unit that would draw power like that, get it checked, so i did & that's how i found out the unit nextdoor was stealing my power, fuming isn't the word!!!
Maybe that's the time to crank your voltage to 480 V or more with a quick transformer (after disconnecting all your own stuff) and see how their welders like the extra juice ;)
In the 80"s I bought a small parade of shops. I found a new tenant for a part of the building, a restaurant. Naturally they had keys to get into the main part and the restaurant ..... Days later around 5 pm I was leaving and locking up. I noticed my office lights dim when I heard the sound of something starting up, two large chillers. There was no official link electrically, each part was separate. I looked at the distribution board and all was in order. I then insisted on inspecting the upper restaurant wall behind the distribution board on their side. Sure enough new heavy gauge wiring. Wired up deliberately to my supply. Cleverly done. Against the tenancy of course and done out of hours in secret, it turns out on a Sunday. These thieving bastards claimed it was a mistake, of course.
Had exactly the opposite problem with voltage and PLC control, our site was on an old 6.3Kv circuit and the other big user had shut down, our primary voltage went up and from the transformers we would often get 256v, every time we only had the main plant running the voltage would creep up above 258v and various protection circuits would cut in! Just as well our transformers had good step changers so we managed to drop the off load voltage to 241v.
I did wonder if that could be the problem here - when the other load goes off, and the input voltage jumps back up to 240V, I wonder if that was creating spikes in the low voltage outputs.
I knew there'd be a howie did it on this, and you gave enough clues in the last update (#39) to allude to what the problem was. I was more concerned how the whole thing came together out of a converted mill... as they say, necessity is the mother of all invention, and when a 3D printer bed isn't big enough, and you have something that will do as an intermediary (and all your fabrication skills), it seems like it was made to be. but the whole concept of manually tracing out a soldered PCB with 3D printer parts frankly was both unexpected and inspired.
That is amazing that you had to focus so much attention on this process before you found out you had a problem all along with your shop wiring. Thanks for sharing. Charles
Of course you're mental. What part of Binkie is rational? lol Thank you for sharing this process. It's so cool. At least you didn't come back from tea to a stringy pile of solder spaghetti all over your workspace lol The hubris of having a quick tea or coffee after watching it start off just fine lol
Excellent work and for the power supply issue like Monty python said no one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition…or a spur that should have been a ring!
Funny, could be useful for prototyping. However, there are some concerns, like, will the solder stick to the board in use, what's the admissible current on the tracks, will the tracks melt when trying to solder components… Still a funky idea.
What's that, the chaps from BOM making something enormously complicated to solve a problem, and then it turns out they didn't need it to be anywhere near that complicated? Nah, that would never happen...
Who else went right to the end expecting some sneaky Marvelesque post credits content? (There isn’t any. The bastards just added 3 minutes of blackness) 😂
i'm reminded of a scientific study that used a dedicated microwave oven to very carefully and cleanly prepare material under study,,,, however the laboratory night warchman also used the same mi-cro-wavy to reheat his very greasy friday night chip supper 😂😂😂😂
If the hard drive was a sudden failure you guys could VERY likely recover the files on it without to much effort if you want to make an attempt. My experience tells me that the electrical issues likely killed that hard drive and that if you acquire an identical WORKING hard drive and swap the control boards between them, it should allow you to power up the drive and recover your files. Which is easy enough to accomplish by using that drive as a slave drive in your PC or with an SATA to USB converter, which is nice if you only have 1 PC that's under a desk or something similar making it difficult to access. I've personally done this exact procedure several times and all things considered it's way simpler than it sounds. In fact, I even had one that wasn't the board, it ended up that the spindle motor had weakened with age and couldn't overcome the spindle bearing friction, ultimately, it required I open the hard drive and "kick start" the platters spinning before I could recover the files on it, but that was more proof of concept done solely to prove that it was possible (as well as prove that I was right, yet again, but that's another story).
With knowing all that you know now, you should try to incorporate this back into an off-the-shelf 3D printer, with as few modifications as possible. Make it open source, and who knows where the world can take your ideas
You have got all the crazies and all the geniuses. Next Nick will determine the engine block is 3mm too tall. Create an arc furnace from an defunct plasma cutter, a didgeridoo, and a stack of old Haynes manuals before pouring the new block in form created from repurposed tea mugs. I shake my head in disbelief and admiration.
I have to know. When you said, we realised all the problems were down to the mains, and took steps to *rectify* the situation, was that a deliberate pun or not?
There is literally so many reasons to do this. Quicker and cheaper (overall) prototyping in house, the ability to edit a prototype board in only a few minutes by doing a new solder run, quick upgrading of components. All of that is covered in the main video. This is without a doubt the best way they could've done it, and they thought outside the box to do it as well.
Not really people modify boards all the time for quick repairs or alterations. They would only need a new one if they change something significant. @@OntarioTrafficMan
@@RoboArc I reckon the final design will be getting cut into copper clad fr4 board, or the lads will be getting a very useful PCBWay sponsorship. Personally I'd have gone the copper clad board route from the outset, the mill would have been capable of cutting traces with no modifications other than the addition of a V groove tool, but then we wouldn't get to see these two mess about with stuff for a laugh.
I mean you _could_ do this in Inkscape and then build your own 3D solder-printer out of a mill and print with slicer software, edited in a spreadsheet , or you could just use some PCB software (there is plenty of it, and all easier to use than Inkscape for a double-sided board) and either etch your own boards the classic way or (as just about everyone since 1990 has done) send it off to someone with the right kit to print. FLOSS PCB software has existed for at least 25 years. And small-run board production is quite cheap now. The perversity of this is quite something to behold. Still, if you have time on your hands, why not. Have you retrofitted your houses yet? If not I feel that might be a more productive use of your time and effort. You can come back to this stuff once that's done.
You think this 2 guys are stupid? Of course they are! Still, a very creative and resourseful idiots with great ideas and love for the engineering and solving problems learning new skills in the making.😊
What? Two videos in under 6 months? You're spoiling us BOM!
gotta keep the patreon suckers from realizing the scam
I think it's the first time I've wanted a channel to save up content to make things more regular.
It's pretty much the footnote of the other video
I was starting to think they both shipped off to Ukraine to fight North Koreans
Usally me and my lady friend, can give birth to a Child inbetwen two ep
Just a couple of guys in a shed, building custom tools and electronics from scratch, so they can build custom tools and electronics from scratch, so they can build custom brackets, so they can build a mini (made mostly of brackets)
Always a pleasure, gentlemen.
fn nailed 😅
WAIT theres a Mini?
@@vizionthingallegedly
@@garymallinson2292 Though uncertain.
@@vizionthing Well it started out as a Mini!..........🤣🤣🤣
"We wanted a part that could theoretically be 3D printed, so we created a new process for 3D printing and built our own 3D printer" is the Binkiest thing that has happened on this project.
This entire build is Autism the car and I'm here for it lmao.
@@drewdane40 with much bracketery!
@@sam1812seal The job just wouldn't be complete without "Brackets".
this process need a proper name.. before any other channel trie to replicate the process. i know is still fdm.. but a we could use another one.
Why not do it the "old school way" - layout the board with tape on clear film, use photoresist on a copper plated board and then etch off the excess copper. I've done that and got excellent results without having to use a computer!
This video def. not sponsored by PCBWay.
Hahaha i was about to post the same thing. PCBWay would be tearing their hair out XD
Or JLC PCB
Or JLB. Out of interest, is it me not looking in the right place, or have electronic project boxes rocketed in price? In the Maplin catalogue days they cost a couple of quid, now they cost close to £20!
Vince must be happy with there can do DIY attitudes. I just hope he doesn't have to fix it down the road anytime in the future.
I'm wondering how long it will take before someone rips off their idea and makes their own product?
Bad Obsession Motorsport. Never in the history of naming things has a name been so apt.
This is not just engineering or science, this is Wallace and Grommit in a shed with a 1980 mini and the vision and will to create something of monumental significance. Forget the Industrial Revolution, this is transformational, this is transcendental, this is... Shropshire.
'But I have other virtues, father, ambition, resourcefulness, courage... devotion.'
I've been into 3D printers for 6yrs+, coding for a 30yrs, and building electronic projects for 40yrs+.... NEVER have I seen a hack as impressive as this...!!!! You claim to be race car builders, but in reality you're a genius... Outside the bracket thinking... X
I must say, I didn't really understand it when I watched the video. But now, having watched this, I don't understand it in much greater detail.
Thanks a lot!
Glad to have helped.
Let me help...
So, instead of spending a few hundred pounds on 10 different iterations of a diy designed commercially made circuit board, these nut jobs did what they usually do.
They spent probably a thousand pounds and hundreds more hours hand building a custom made 3d printer to print custom circuit boards using custom made solder.
Having completed this exercise in insanity to avoid learning how to use PCB design software or prototyping board while they figure out how to make their gauges work, they'll now either go away and learn just that to have one PCB commercially manufactured, or they'll continue to avoid it by learning the much more difficult skill of etching PCBs for themselves.
Basically, it's the typical insanity we've come to expect, and more importantly, enjoy.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
@@dtnicholls1 Sometimes the journey is even more fun than the destination.
Probably not lol@@ChuckChuckBoBuck
Of all the insane things done for the sake of this build... Hand routing PCB traces in Inkscape is the work of an absolute maniac. Hats off to you both
This is a prime example of "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". Wait till they learn KiCAD exists lol. Won't be able to stop them at all 😂
Agreed! I can’t imagine the effort involved in that, it’s no small feat in dedicated PCB software that’s automatically referencing a schematic, the thought of doing that manually brings me out in a cold sweat!
This is total madness , BOM solving a problem that doesn't exist in the most complicated and expensive way possible , fantastic video , the electronics industry just looks on saying "EH" ? "What" ? "Why" ? ..... "Reasons " they are mad ...
BOM's Printerator, it`s these little touches that have kept me smiling for 39 episodes. Gents, I tip my cap.
Don't forget the "Nahoozle temp" lol
@@forthebirds4 TIL what the hot thingy in a 3D printer is called!
They'd much rather you tip them directly. Lol
Ahhhh, my life is complete - brackets were made! 10 out of 10 for ingenuity and persistence!👍
In 1974 when I worked for a computer company, we had a programmable calculator hooked up to three large weigh scales used by a concrete contractor building the National Library of Australia. The contract specified the colour of the concrete to be used. We started getting very irate service calls to say the calculator was going berserk and the three weigh scales were intermittently dumping incorrect loads of cement/gravel/water into the waiting truck - or all over the floor! Couldn't find anything wrong with our calculator... One day I was running diagnostics when suddenly the weigh scales sprang into action of their own accord - dumping loads of "concrete' onto the loading bay floor. I smelt a rat and asked what else they had on site... Oh, nothing, except the air compressor downstairs, they innocently replied. Luckily I had heard it start up just as the scales went bananas. We fitted the calculator with solid state relays and told the customer to get some surge suppression on his air compressor. Problem fixed, customer happy.🇦🇺
That is quite something- drawing and routing so many iterations of the board on Inkscape, developing an entirely new method for PCB fabrication by hacking a plethora of 3d printing and CNC hardware and software, all to be nearly brought down by nothing more than some ropey shed wiring….. you guys’ persistence and determination are on a completely different level!
I loved the “200pound gorilla interface” joke, if you know you know 😂
As someone who regularly starts a "quick" job that turns out to be anything but, there's a degree of reassurance in learning about the trials of others.
Of course I've never tried printing my own circuit boards (there lies madness), but power supply and equipment issues, that I can relate to.
Well done! You have re-invented the wheel, but your version is square.
And made of spinach!
Some very nice bracketry in this episode!
This is the exact kind of (idiotic)optimism you mostly find in car enthusiasts: "Nah it shouldn't be that hard, take too long or cost anything"
Keep it up boys, love your videos!
It also is very common in first-year Ph.D. students. (And their advisors.)
If that were not the case, we'd have many fewer people starting Ph.D.s.
I'm hospital with broken back and watching this video is helping me more than owt else
Morphine should also help a lot.
Were you up a mountain when you did your back?
I haven't looked through the comments yet but - as a confirmed 3D printing "nerd" - I would like to bet that you have a whole raft of comments from fellow 3D printing nerds commenting on the total and utter *GENIOUS* of what you built there.
For me this is the most impressive part of this entire build ... you sirs have my total respect!
So it turns out you can actually teach an old dog new tricks. It just takes the better part of two years. Great to have you back!
Sometimes the fun is in the process and not the project! This is amazing!
I'm surprised that you don't have more subscribers. You're the best automotive channel on UA-cam. All of my car buddies love this channel.
You guys are absolute legends. It’s kind of hard to explain since English isn’t my best language, but you guys are such an inspiration! The stubbornness to make stuff work in combination with the talent you have, have thought me so many things, we have been learning along side you and I couldn’t be more grateful. Thank you so much for sharing much love❤
Considering how you can get JLPCB to make you a double sided proper circuit board for this application for probably below 100 quid, this is truly insane.
I would not have expected anything else.
Considering that they could use a 3d printer and some etchant to make double sided boards at home this is definitely insane. Even a CNC router with a v bit would be better. It's like these guys had a brain fart of massive proportions or something.
@Imaboss8ball I think you've misunderstood the basic reasons behind the entire project. They're doing it because they can, not because it makes sense or is a responsible use of time/money/whatever. Otherwise we would not have a Mini with a Toyota drive train and custom everything with extra brackets. We'd have something much more boring.
This project reminds me of when Super Fast Matt put food in his tail fin. Stupid ≠ goofy.
I was wondering that too. However, given the wide variety of hole sizes, the large size of the board, the brass work needed for some components, this would probably be an expensive thing to push though your average "for amateurs, one-offs" PCB shop.
Weirdly, having got this insane idea working, they do actually have something quite significant. They've made large-scale, low tech low volume circuit boards cheap to make. There is a market out there for such things. Certainly, one could iterate designs of this scale very easily, only opting for a proper PCB at the end when it's all working.
@@abarratt8869 Which is exactly the reason they stated (and shown) in the previous video, yes. Figuring it out as you go along is a lot harder if you have to scrap and start over every time.
This absolutely blew my mind when you showed off this process in the main video. Utter game changer
Kings of perseverance. Deepest respect. The solid invention aspect was not understood by lots
Excellent use of the Wilhelm Scream.
Beat me to it. 😂😂😂
I'm constantly amazed by your ingenuity. Thankyou for the hours and hours of videos.
I feel like the footage of the printing process is some kind of hypnotic payback for the hours you spent doing exactly the same thing... put my brain on standby mode watching that... my coffee went cold
This is one of the most clever, imaginative things I've ever seen on UA-cam. Well done!
Nice. This process is mental.
And consistent with the rest of the project.
No its metal
Excellent, when I loose motivation for my projects. I just watch one of your episodes. It is also good to see that you have done many trials. Its seems I have to redo at least 3 times for what ever reason. You are a huge inspiration thank you.
Love the Wilhelm Scream. "Aaaahhh!" 😂🤣
This is the kind of way outside the box thinking I love about this channel. If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing.
We have a problem at work with one of our servo driven machines randomly loosing its marbles and trying to send the slides to 3000 mm away, which is an issue due to the maximum travel is 100mm . We have been chasing this problem for a year and a half now. We have suspected a servo power supply problem, watching this video has given me a bingo moment, it could be the mains power !
Will be reconnecting the fker to another power circuit to if it fixes the problem.
Thank you BOM for the video.
Please report back if that fixes it!
(I imagine there's some modern equivalent of a strip-chart recorder that you could hook up to the mains power and/or the servo power supply to make long-time recordings that would help with this sort of thing, too.)
love it. big fan of learning the ins and outs of every part of a project. the next project will be fun to imagine, with many more possibilities from the outset and a lot more that can be done in a given amount of time. also, locating issues, like those related to the mains, and fixing them, give added peace of mind and benefits of a more general nature. thanks for providing so much vicarious satisfaction!
Great work guys, and I admire you perseverance and ingenuity!
Excellent work lads
You say people are complaining about what you managed to do? Really don't think they truly appreciate what a complicated task you mad lads managed to sort out with pretty much just a "can do" attitude and a bit of scraps. I really applaud your journey and willingness to tackle obstacles. Thank you!
Stretch goal: play the Police Squad theme on the steppers. This was utterly bonkers, your determination to see this through utterly mind-blowing. Fab.
Watching that nozzle lay down solder is truly mesmerizing. Back in the day when I was a draftsman, I spent my day drawing schematics and wiring diagrams, and I guess a little of that mentality is still in my noggin somewhere. Ironically, when all is said and done, the end result of this exercise is that all Binky’s gauges will work. Doesn’t seem like a big deal, but my, what a process.
Now i am tenacious when it comes to building and fixing stuff, but after all the part failures i think that even i would have given up on that. Bloody spur! Incredible as always
necessity is the mother of all inventions...and the BOM creativity knows no bounds apparently. This project goes so much further than just a car project!
I have to be honest, I have fallen asleep to the sweet sound of stepper motors more than once.
Howie Did It and shenanigans?!? I love it.
They say its fine line between genius & insanity, you two crossed the line.... you nut jobs, I love it!!! 😂👍
I don't think they crossed the line exactly. I think it's like with water and steam; once you put enough energy into it (pressure and temperature in the case of steam), it goes supercritical and the line between the two simply vanishes.
Yep. You are actually insane. Something that could have been done in a couple of says for a few quid by a company that makes PCBs, or in the old fashioned way with copper clad board, photo-resist and etchant... and you do this. Magnificent. Also bonkers in the nut.
The shear audacity you guy have to even consider, take and even accomplich such crazy idea! You guys deserves a Nobel prize.
Accomplish
The Ignobel prizes exist for this purpose.
Of all the clever things I've seen on this channel, this is the most genius thing.
if it were, we would not have copper PCBs but solder/tin PCB instead. There are good reasons why this process is not a good idea.
@unperrier5998 what are they?
@@richbrown5852this will fall apart from vibrations, there is a reason why most critical connections in most critical systems in cars are crimped or pressure fitted and not soldered. That solder traces are too brittle for what they're supposed to do
@@unperrierbut there are reasons why it is a good idea
@@richbrown5852 Here's a few obvious reasons why a solder only PCB is not a goot idea:
- the traces are fragile (they're not afixed to the board but simple deposited)
- it's impossible to re-work the board (you can't fix a trace using your solder iron like you would a copper PCB)
- the resistance of solder is 8 (eight) times higher than that of copper
I don't see an upside besides "it's cool, nobody does it" (and for good reasons I must add)
3D printing. Until this moment, used for plastic toys that hobbyists threw out after a few months. Now the future just started. Using solder to print a circuit board is just mind blowing.
I watched every second.....riveting....well soldering at least!
You chaps are bloody amazing, if we ever need a new version of the spitfire, do you mind if we pop round? As it was folk like yourselves that saved good old Blighty the last time there was a bit of a hiccup! Glad we still produce good folk like yourselves, thank you
I have seen many ways to produce prints in my time, but not this one. So it's surely innovative!
That being said, making a PCB is so much easier when you do it 'the normal way'. Basically you need your layout printed on a see-through laminate sheeth, put it in a light sensitive PCB, and put the whole thing under UV light, like an old face-browning lamp. Then develop, and lastly etch.
This was my thoughts, came to the comments to check.😊
Been there myself and it's messy. You can have it done for pocket change in China and get professional boards in a week or so.
And how did you make the mask? A black pen or Letraset rub-on transfer sheets. Both ways sometimes left miniscule cracks in the tracks that needed fixing buy soldering bits of wire as a bridge.
You could also use a copper coated board, and, oh, I don't know, a milling machine. To be fair, they did justify the method in the previous video.
Old good laserjet/hot iron pcb process?
This is the Howie I was looking for!
_Surely you can't be serious!_
I agree, this was epic.
And don't call me Shirley
@@sfjneanrirjlkdfvwliejferjlncvmmm nice beaver
@@sfjneanrirjlkdfvwliejferjlncv Frankly, I thought it was Shirley, but I haven't been wearing a welding mask during bracket construction, so...
There's two mates bashing things together in a shed, and then there's this: two mates bashing things together in a shed... with a budget. Cheers. And congratulations on finding that power issue. I would have ripped my hair out trying to find that.
More absolutely extraordinary work!
Haha, when you find out the nextdoor unit has taped in to your power supply to run their welders, i discovered this in my unit weny a guy came to visit me & asked why do your lights keep dimming, i had no idea just alway done it since i moved in, he said you don't have anything in the unit that would draw power like that, get it checked, so i did & that's how i found out the unit nextdoor was stealing my power, fuming isn't the word!!!
Maybe that's the time to crank your voltage to 480 V or more with a quick transformer (after disconnecting all your own stuff) and see how their welders like the extra juice ;)
In the 80"s I bought a small parade of shops. I found a new tenant for a part of the building, a restaurant. Naturally they had keys to get into the main part and the restaurant ..... Days later around 5 pm I was leaving and locking up. I noticed my office lights dim when I heard the sound of something starting up, two large chillers. There was no official link electrically, each part was separate. I looked at the distribution board and all was in order. I then insisted on inspecting the upper restaurant wall behind the distribution board on their side. Sure enough new heavy gauge wiring. Wired up deliberately to my supply. Cleverly done. Against the tenancy of course and done out of hours in secret, it turns out on a Sunday. These thieving bastards claimed it was a mistake, of course.
Utterly fantastic. Though can't imagine the frustration with the puzzling print. Sure glad that "ah-ha" moment occurred w/ the power. Nuts.
Had exactly the opposite problem with voltage and PLC control, our site was on an old 6.3Kv circuit and the other big user had shut down, our primary voltage went up and from the transformers we would often get 256v, every time we only had the main plant running the voltage would creep up above 258v and various protection circuits would cut in!
Just as well our transformers had good step changers so we managed to drop the off load voltage to 241v.
I did wonder if that could be the problem here - when the other load goes off, and the input voltage jumps back up to 240V, I wonder if that was creating spikes in the low voltage outputs.
I've been hoping for an expanded video on this, it's such an inspired solution to circuitry. Thank you!
I knew there'd be a howie did it on this, and you gave enough clues in the last update (#39) to allude to what the problem was.
I was more concerned how the whole thing came together out of a converted mill... as they say, necessity is the mother of all invention, and when a 3D printer bed isn't big enough, and you have something that will do as an intermediary (and all your fabrication skills), it seems like it was made to be. but the whole concept of manually tracing out a soldered PCB with 3D printer parts frankly was both unexpected and inspired.
man the wait for these videos has been SO WORTH IT.
“Howie couldn’t have done it, he hasn’t been in for weeks.” Sally decker. 1982.
Sally Decker? Don't you mean Babs Caltrane? Or possibly a hitman named Zasu Pitts?
That is amazing that you had to focus so much attention on this process before you found out you had a problem all along with your shop wiring. Thanks for sharing. Charles
The last 3 mins of silence was for the burned circuits and broken tea cups 😁
Huuuuuuuuuge respect for this project. Of course I couldn't help but think how crazy you all were, but the execution is impressive.
Of course you're mental. What part of Binkie is rational? lol
Thank you for sharing this process. It's so cool.
At least you didn't come back from tea to a stringy pile of solder spaghetti all over your workspace lol The hubris of having a quick tea or coffee after watching it start off just fine lol
I've always been impressed by you boys but this is something else!
Excellent work and for the power supply issue like Monty python said no one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition…or a spur that should have been a ring!
Proving to the US that a ring copes better with a high load!
@@jonathanpalmer155 a ring was just one way of reducing copper usage... they could of uprated the csa of the radial cable...
@jonathanpalmer155 I'm not an electrician but I tried to describe a ring system to an American electrician and he looked at me like I grew horns.
Funny, could be useful for prototyping. However, there are some concerns, like, will the solder stick to the board in use, what's the admissible current on the tracks, will the tracks melt when trying to solder components… Still a funky idea.
What's that, the chaps from BOM making something enormously complicated to solve a problem, and then it turns out they didn't need it to be anywhere near that complicated?
Nah, that would never happen...
Once again I am in awe. You guys are in a league of your own !
breathtaking
You guys are bonkers, and I love you for it. May Binky live forever.
Who else went right to the end expecting some sneaky Marvelesque post credits content?
(There isn’t any. The bastards just added 3 minutes of blackness) 😂
Fiends...
I did. And felt in some strange way almost. . . betrayed. .
In its own evil way, the best gag yet
@@BadObsessionMotorsport fuckers ...is what we are thinking.
Some one didnt want the video.
33:39 is the Angry Rabbit Production...
You lads have some real skills. Such fun seeing your machine create a circuit board .. You could go into business. Incredibly well done !!
i'm reminded of a scientific study that used a dedicated microwave oven to very carefully and cleanly prepare material under study,,,,
however the laboratory night warchman also used the same mi-cro-wavy to reheat his very greasy friday night chip supper 😂😂😂😂
And their process stopped working after they fired the night watchman :D
If the hard drive was a sudden failure you guys could VERY likely recover the files on it without to much effort if you want to make an attempt.
My experience tells me that the electrical issues likely killed that hard drive and that if you acquire an identical WORKING hard drive and swap the control boards between them, it should allow you to power up the drive and recover your files. Which is easy enough to accomplish by using that drive as a slave drive in your PC or with an SATA to USB converter, which is nice if you only have 1 PC that's under a desk or something similar making it difficult to access.
I've personally done this exact procedure several times and all things considered it's way simpler than it sounds.
In fact, I even had one that wasn't the board, it ended up that the spindle motor had weakened with age and couldn't overcome the spindle bearing friction, ultimately, it required I open the hard drive and "kick start" the platters spinning before I could recover the files on it, but that was more proof of concept done solely to prove that it was possible (as well as prove that I was right, yet again, but that's another story).
You're bloody insane! Smart but mad as a very mad badger
Two videos in a month about project binky is amazing
With knowing all that you know now, you should try to incorporate this back into an off-the-shelf 3D printer, with as few modifications as possible. Make it open source, and who knows where the world can take your ideas
You have got all the crazies and all the geniuses. Next Nick will determine the engine block is 3mm too tall. Create an arc furnace from an defunct plasma cutter, a didgeridoo, and a stack of old Haynes manuals before pouring the new block in form created from repurposed tea mugs. I shake my head in disbelief and admiration.
Wha...!?! Brackets were made off camera without a funk montage? You've changed guys, you really have 😜🤣
[Thanks for the update though 👍]
Fantastic to watch this. Keep it coming guys 👍👍
I have to know.
When you said, we realised all the problems were down to the mains, and took steps to *rectify* the situation, was that a deliberate pun or not?
I get erectified by the puns.
I just love the shear determination by plugging away, well done sir(s)!!!
There's absolutely no reason to do this, but I'm happy to see it done all the same.
Right. If they had a mill why not just cut the traces out 😯
@@RoboArcBecause then you need to start over every time you make a change to the board
There is literally so many reasons to do this. Quicker and cheaper (overall) prototyping in house, the ability to edit a prototype board in only a few minutes by doing a new solder run, quick upgrading of components. All of that is covered in the main video. This is without a doubt the best way they could've done it, and they thought outside the box to do it as well.
Not really people modify boards all the time for quick repairs or alterations. They would only need a new one if they change something significant. @@OntarioTrafficMan
@@RoboArc I reckon the final design will be getting cut into copper clad fr4 board, or the lads will be getting a very useful PCBWay sponsorship. Personally I'd have gone the copper clad board route from the outset, the mill would have been capable of cutting traces with no modifications other than the addition of a V groove tool, but then we wouldn't get to see these two mess about with stuff for a laugh.
Wow! YEA!!!! You’re posting more frequently!!!!! Great happiness!
I’m getting on a flight shortly - great to have a Binky video to watch on the way!
Talk about in flight entertainment.
Absolutely brilliant, boys!
5:01 "controlled by the knob" - I fully expected you to say "called Nick". How did you miss the opportunity for a knob gag?? I'm disappointed!!
I know! I was confused by that omission too.
Now I understand why videos take so long to come out. Amazing work lads, keep it up 👍
Project Minky, shoehorning a meteor v12 into a mk1 Eacort?
I would prefer to see a v12 RR/Merlin
Well dang, that sounds like a Royal Clusterf**k. Well done on not giving up on it.
I mean you _could_ do this in Inkscape and then build your own 3D solder-printer out of a mill and print with slicer software, edited in a spreadsheet , or you could just use some PCB software (there is plenty of it, and all easier to use than Inkscape for a double-sided board) and either etch your own boards the classic way or (as just about everyone since 1990 has done) send it off to someone with the right kit to print. FLOSS PCB software has existed for at least 25 years. And small-run board production is quite cheap now. The perversity of this is quite something to behold. Still, if you have time on your hands, why not. Have you retrofitted your houses yet? If not I feel that might be a more productive use of your time and effort. You can come back to this stuff once that's done.
You think this 2 guys are stupid?
Of course they are!
Still, a very creative and resourseful idiots with great ideas and love for the engineering and solving problems learning new skills in the making.😊
I can't believe there is a second video right after the last one🤯. A dream comes true
TWO VIDOES IN ONE YEAR?!?!?!?
IN THE SAME QUARTER, EVEN!
calm down , it won't happen again !
This is an extra fancy bread board. But why the hell not, binky is just an extra small toyota Celica gt4.
The only UA-cam video not sponsored by PCBWay.
They can still sponsor, saying if you don’t wana do allll that, we can make it for you fast and cheap.
@@iTeerRexconsidering they've already developed the process this is definitely cheaper than that
Absolutely astounding work for the Mini