I never believed that Big Dre would have been afraid to shoot 2Pac because I'm pretty sure that Keefe D wouldn't have allowed someone to get in the car with them unless that person already was reputable. There were numerous South Side Crips who weren't selected. Keefe D picked everyone in the car. That was his dream team.
He wasn't scared he was lost in admiration that's what I've always thought pac took it upon himself to punch Orlando he could have had any of those big bloods do it to why didn't they start the fight with Orlando if they thought the way you're thinking now.
I’m not buying none of this shit Keefe d is an informant I don’t even think he was in the car nor Orlando I think it was two cops. I think puffy casually stated he wanted to put a hit out but never materialized. The root of the set up goes back to Reggie wright Jr who ordered the no guns. Because I’m the end there’s no evidence pointing to puffy. When u think about it Keefe d gets offered a deal then comes out of nowhere stating who pulled the trigger. That’s a cop move lol it’s clear as day. 2 pac was killed in-house the very reason Suge couldn’t say anything
Why would keefe make up Dre being scared knowing that makes him look bad and his family would be mad? Shooting a famous person on Las Vegas strip is different then killing somebody don’t nobody know
Being from Philly i know what its like when the cops literally watch you grow up, working the same shifts in the same districts for tens of years smh.. they know who you are way before you realize they do. Its crazy.
Lol I'm from Palm Beach Florida and can cosign this. They know from the time we young kids who really about that life and who's not. And know us all by face and first name basis.
Yep I'm from DC. When the police knew the gangsters, etc. in the hood, honestly it was less crime. They had a mutual respect. Now, nobody cares for eachother.
the only way Dre would of been hesitant if he though about a bounty being put on his head if he were to do it but not cause he was a punk in my opinion .orlando on the other hand was just angry and young minded so he acted on impulse
@@24KinfO you got out of context a little bit. That former cop wasn't saying the were cool with them gangsters, rather thru knew their activities and what they are capable of and they were under investigation.
Facts this guy was great on vlad on the corruption part aside from the not wanting to talk about eye witness accounts in Vegas contradicting who their “informants” said was the driver.
Ummmm in the streets it kinda does. I remember my friends telling me I was a bitch because I didn't want to steal a care from right in front of people's houses.
I dont think he was scared I think he was more on some like man I aint shooting 2pac thats 2pac y'all bugging ... its big difference from shooting ray ray from the block and shooting TUPAC ... dre coulda had love for pac, coulda liked his music and been a fan ... dre aint the 1 who got beat down so why he gonna shoot pac for ... prob was like he beat u down not me u wanna get back at him u do it I aint shooting that ngga
This is good Art.. Bobby Ladd had a front row seat to these guys that were all involved on the front lines of this East Coast/West Coast beef. Bad Boy/Death Row
Solved it? By interviewing people Vlad alr dey did and basically hearing same thing ? Knock it off!! Now I do prefer the way Art dialogues with them and he lets his guests talk too.
Art got the interview with pacs biological father Billy Garland and his brother so in my book art wins and he is a real true PAC fan vlad be having that pink belt in karate Michael jai white a D list actor if anything but he have him on his platform calling Tupac effeminate and Art always represents the real for Tupac when hater's try to hate so I'm riding with Art and I will tell anyone subscribe and like his videos cause I'm loyal too
@@pug6909-u2g in your book don’t count mate. In the context of who solved the murder it’s Vlad! PAC’s biological father or brother interview didn’t solve the pac murder case.
If Kefee D wasn’t there, how does he know PAC jumped into the backseat!? which explains why the bullet pattern starts from the passenger door to the rear passenger door in a straight line
He is not he was lying he knew Big Dre a shooter that would be scared. And he also he's agreeing with keefe that orlando was the shooter because that's why the murder happened, it was his call and he was the one that got humiliated by pac.
Exactly right on getting his respect back. Remember this is a gang expert and see these men grew up. Tupac didn't know who they were fucking with they were real gangsters born and raised in Compton
So, why wasn't any of those reputable Gang Members touched that night, let alone afterwards, especially since those reputable Gang Members were caught beating on Orlando Anderson that night more than either Pac or Suge ?
Means nothing that same gangster got dropped by a smaller man his feelings was hurt he told his boys and they did a thing I got a homie serving life for something like this supposedly hurt feelings make bad decisions
His story sounds the realest. I’m raised down the street from these dudes I know some solid guys from the South they are about that money and that action
He actually unintentionally admits to it. Responding from the mike Tyson threat, how is he able to see pac break dancing if he's in the passenger seat? I believe keffe was in the backseat letting those rounds go off.
Thanks for the clarification,sir. He's narration on big dre coming in for Orlando shows that gangsters don't move in one or loitering around, especially when they are aware of opps that move in numbers are coming to same location. 2. Getting different tickets at different seats Implies talking about the meeting point before the boxing match begins... And no gang set will pick a vulnerable position like entrance at the peak of war.
@@stuartchilongozi2439 not trying to be gang banger,sir. The chain of reaction didn't begins from that. Orlando jumping their crew to snatch DR chains. Snatching DR chains aimed at taking shots at Pac and not on others. Orlando and his crew attacked them first..Pac didn't see gang banger but someone trying to steal from them. Every abled man will jump Orlando in that situation. I remembered DMX narrating a story of him robbing a guy who robbed Mr. A but when Mr. A and his friends saw him with it, they jumped him... It is natural state of mind...
You have to take in considerations the "star struck" factor. These guys were also fans of 2pac. It's not like shooting a stranger. If you a fan you feel like you know him like an uncle or a cousin.
You are entitled to your opinion. Streets don't Care about Rappers then and they definitely do NOT Care NOW. How many Rappers need to die from Violence on the West Coast for ppl to understand? 1996 Street Dudes had just as much or more $$$ than Rappers. The financial dynamic did not start to change until after the Hard Knock Life Tour. Compton(Hub City) and LA are Different .
@@jahaad8430I agree especially back then gangstas were getting just as much $$ if not more plus a rapper swinging on a G hell no ya ass in trouble RIP Tupac doe!!!
Not a chance it don’t matter if you were his fan once he violate its over, brothers have killed brothers from the beginning of time and even if u didn’t wanna shoot pac ur gonna have to because the people in the car might switch on you and If they don’t kill you ur street credit will definitely be tarnished Which is a No no so I don’t believe big dre said he not shooting pac
Real killers like Dre and Orlando don’t give a fuck about you being a rapper especially in a situation like that when somebody just disrespected them😂😂😂ain’t no start struck in that moment. People who believe Dre was scared are crazy. It’s one thing to believe orlando did it but believing Dre was scared or panicked are crazy. Keefe D would have never had him in that car if he was one of those kind and he’d never have continued hanging with crips after “folding” on a mission lmao
And unlike today’s child gangsters, OG’s move in silence, with violence! Kids nowadays run right to social media to dry snitch on themselves, for clout. Fkn pathetic😂
@@chrisconnors9449 big dre can control himself but not someone else. I mean he probably didn't hold back but he could have. It was just so visible, people and cops everywhere. Tgere are times when killers hold back
@@nawfslimI used to stay off Broadway. Then I stayed off Telephone Road. The same thing I seen there I seen in New Orleans,Denver,Savanah and Tampa. You're tripping.
Big Dre and driver would have both been in the line of fire if Orlando was the shooter.. No way Orlando had a clear shot from his positioning in the vehicle.
That's bullshit he would have had to lean out the window with his left hand unless he used his right hand in which he would have had to turn his whole body and face to the car if I had to guess he was right-handed like most people are was a fan of Pac like most people were and didn't get punched in the face directly by Tupac so he wasn't is amped up as Orlando who just got jumped by a whole football team of bloods when pac took it upon himself to do it why wouldnt lane do the same to pac roles reversed
There are no medical records to support that Orlando's shoulder was dislocated if his shoulder was dislocated he wouldn't have been standing so calmly yet looking pissed off in the middle of the MGM
Even though he says he thinks Orlando was the trigger man he has actually changed my opinion and now I am about 98% certain it was Dre. 1. Dre was sitting at the driver side window 2. Dre was a shooter 3. Kadafi said he saw a fat arm as the shooter 4. Can't see Orlando leaning over big Fat Dre shooting out of his window. 5. Witness testified to the grand jury that Dre told him he did it.
Fair points except for the first one. By all accounts they didn’t think they were gonna be able to pull up to the side of Pac’s car like that. That was just a lucky coincidence. Their intent was to go to Club 662 and get him there.
Bro said “Orlando hit somebody in the head, and his clip fell out. So Big Dre stepped in and shot the guy in the head.” But also believes that Orlando reached over Big Dre to shoot 2Pac, without having a clear shot? Without Dre being burnt by any shells? So Big Dre didn’t just snatch the gun and shot for his friend again?
His arm was fully out the window. The shells would fall to the ground. His leaning over Dre explains why he missed so many shots though Pac was right there.
@@kevinlee9929 they stopped for a millisecond when the shots fired they accelerated quickly which in turn would've made the shells fly. Everybody in Compton knew big dre did it. As a matter of fact both of them were braggin about it. Everybody knew big dre was a STEPPA why would he be scared
Yea man thats true, anybody ever been in the back seat of a 96 deville knows theres hella room, and Orlando after getting packed out had to be the one to put in work no doubt.
It's like he is proud to say they are gangsters for reacting in an immature emotional way to a problem with violence using a weapon instead of having a fair one.
And he’s not being biased and hating he just telling the story regular not the same shit as y’all be doin. Y’all come looking to hate and talk shit etc.
The uncle would be more angry at what happened more than the gang. That's blood. You are going to go hard for real family. That's why he went after Suge. Listen to his interview. He was like "Orlando was a kid man", "a grown man fighting a kid". So yea, I think he shot them
Everybody that was behind Suge & Tupac's car said they saw a big arm reach out the window and shoot. Gauranteed it was the driver. (Which i think was Big Dre) But why blame Orlando?😒🤨
Yeah they riding around in a van looking for pac they pulled up to the club and was out number And pac wasn’t there Thats when he hopped in the rental car
Didn't Keefe D say in an interview with AOD that Orlando's shoulder was popped out of socket from the jumping at the MGM? If so, how could he shoot over Big Dre with a bad shoulder and shoot precisely into Suge's car?
After the shooting, Orlando was seen at the MGM by Stacey Augmon and returned to the strip in 47 minutes, which is the approximate time between the fight and the shooting? Consider the hospital scenario for a moment. After getting jumped, Orlando stays at the hotel for questioning for at least 10-20 minutes, give or take, then leaves with those four guys who were circling him during questioning. Afterwards, he goes to the emergency room, but it takes them another 30 minutes to get there because of hotel traffic, finding the car, navigating Las Vegas Michael Tyson Fight Night traffic, and finally arriving at Sunrise Hospital and getting checked in, waiting in line until even you get to see a doctor, let alone the paperwork he had to fill out for insurance purposes, and the fact that he's from out of state,??? (Laughable), Now ask yourself this question, who gets out of emergency room in less than 47 MINUTES after all that I mentioned and still finds Tupac and Suge on the crowded strip? GTFOH @@MultiKadafi
@@ShafiqHusaynmusic This is not no HOOD over packed hospital in Chicago smh. They get you in and out of there real fast in Vegas. They not dealing with 5 people being shot every night and a bunch of uninsured sick people.
Nay, My moms worked in E.R. for 40 years and she said it would be impossible for anyone to in and out of a ER in 47 Minutes and still make it back to the strip to do that shooting. You can believe all that jaded journalist and police narrative, but He did not shoot Tupac, and I believe Suge on that part too, HE WAS THERE. @@urbanflavorz
Pac saw them as diddy's chain snatchers but these guys are hitters from young, Pirus messed up majorly especially Treyvon lane that coward didn't handle his business.
@@kanyegang2810 only suge knew all of this about them niggaz if I'm suge I'm tellin pac yo we knoe u down bro but u also the money machine an I can't afford too put u in harm's way we gonna sit back an watch the boys stomp Anderson out but not u
He’s just saying what he believes based off how he feels gangs work, on him and his partners old interview they seemt to not want to address contradictions to their “informants” claim that keefe d was the driver compared to what eye witnesses said the driver looked like. That shows they already are stubborn and if anyone gets offended at this it shows they are also stubborn and just want to be entertained or are paid for.
In my opinion, Keefe D was the shooter. Which boss ride in the front seat? They usually get in the back seat. No one knows the actual order they was actually seated.
Yeah man, I grew up watching these Gangsters man, during my time at PD man, we learned a clip was a magazine man, but man, for cool points man, let's call a magazine a clip man. 🤘right on man!
Nah. I believe the shots came from lane. The shot in the windshield shows it came from lane. Big Dre would’ve had to lean damn there out the car to shoot at the front of the car like that…. The bullet trajectory shows the car was shot up while moving past pac car. Lane was no lil dude. Only way you let off the shots in that car and not been seen hanging out shooting is if you on the right side spraying left to right. The only thing you’d see is an arm
We black, bruh. Black people deal with certain ish differently than other cultures. No real black person can picture a gangster letting another dude REACH across him to fire a gun in his face! Foh
Outlawz were in a car behind the white Cadillac. They're on record saying they saw a "big black hand" doing the shooting. Big Dre was 6'5" >300lbs... and sitting rear driver's side where the shots came from.
Thank you Bobby Ladd! Gang activity in Cali was different in the 90s! If 2pac didn’t touch that man he would not have died that night… hell diddy gotta do with this
@@chenlou7366 I don't get it Pac Suge with Dre there beat the shit out of a Diddy associate trying to get info on Puffy family location. Made him drink urine Pac told Big and Puffy his fofo make sure all they kids don't grow. The least Puffy could have done was wanted a Death Row chain for a video. Pac got himself killed all blame on him.
What if it was too difficult to find Suge's car in Vegas on fight night? What if the odds of finding Suge's car at 11pm off the strip in Vegas were slim to none? What if the only way to find Suge's car would be if someone inside Suge's circle was giving information on his whereabouts?
He wasn't gonna be hard to find they knew he was going to perform at suge's club that night have you heard Keefe d tell the story? If not you should hear it it doesn't sound far fetched for them to find Tupac that night he definitely wasn't trying to keep a low profile
He wasn’t gonna be hard to find man it’s highly unlikely to be a conspiracy like that. They were riding several cars lined up, probably all standout vehicles being that they’re with Death Row. Pac was hanging out the window screaming so they happened to spot him. If they didn’t find them in traffic, it’s highly likely that they would’ve just spun back to 662 again and handled the situation then.
Are they knew when and where they would be at because there was flyers everywhere promoting a concert that night off the strip keywords off the strip this was not on the strip this was headed past the strip traffic leading to the strip is always more busier than the traffic leading away from the strip this is coming from somebody who drove here for years as a occupation also the lights they caught them out come in multiples there's a lot of lights in between 662 and the strip they were a few lights off of the strip by the time they caught up with them on koval
The thing is Keefe is a lot older than Orlando and Dre so just like a older brother or father you never think your little brother or son is on demon time
Hahaha..His own office said he bogus Kading is a joke ..He wrote a book .crazy.. shit. and made keefe a deal to,save LA of a 400 million lawsuit from ms Wallace suing LA.when. Detective Russell Poole solved both cases and they,Wright's and Co.killed him in a waiting room wit all files in hand,Ex Cops did both cases Amir,Mack,and The Wright's
Smh!! When Keffie D did that proffer agreement remember they told him if he lied about anything & they found out he would not just be convicted for the drug crime , but also the crime he was telling on. So why would he say it was his own nephew & not Dre. Doesn’t make sense.
It doesn't take a cop to understand a known gang banger doesn't intentionally get into a car to go kill someone to suddenly get cold feet when the opportunity arrives. Everybody thats in a driveby car, is in there for a reason, from the driver to the shooter/shooters.
How people can tell the only person alive who was actually in the car what did and didn’t happen that night is beyond me. Lots of people grew up in Compton and were not cold blooded anything. It’s disrespectful and stereotypical to label them all that way. That’s why that racist department was disbanded
I still think Dre was the shooter. In order for Orlando to have a shot, and extend his ARM out the window, he would need to basically be sitting in Big Dre's lap. Especially when you consider that there was a "big arm" extended out the window. Shell casings in the street = Big Dre.
🤦🏽♂️ did u not see the Greg kading interview art did a few days ago? Where he said it’s easy to lean over and shoot somebody they tested it already with somebody Dre size 🤦🏽♂️
You never know though. Maybe Big Dre was like naw man I don’t wanna shoot Tupac Shakur. Star struck? Big Dre prolly would have done it on any other beef.
Nah. I believe the shots came from lane. The shot in the windshield shows it came from lane. Big Dre would’ve had to lean damn there out the car to shoot at the front of the car like that…. The bullet trajectory shows the car was shot up while moving past pac car. Lane was no lil dude. Only way you let off the shots in that car and not been seen hanging out shooting is if you on the right side spraying left to right. The only thing you’d see is an arm
If it was big dre why would keefe blame his own nephew baby lane. Keefe took alot of heat from his family for blaming his nephew. Both lane and big dre were dead by the time he confessed to the police. Doesnt make sense to blame his own family when both men are dead either way. Plus the proffer agreement he made with the police stated if he gets caught lying his confession can be used against him. The deal would have been voided if he got caught lying.
I never believed that Big Dre would have been afraid to shoot 2Pac because I'm pretty sure that Keefe D wouldn't have allowed someone to get in the car with them unless that person already was reputable.
There were numerous South Side Crips who weren't selected. Keefe D picked everyone in the car. That was his dream team.
Fair statement
He wasn't scared he was lost in admiration that's what I've always thought pac took it upon himself to punch Orlando he could have had any of those big bloods do it to why didn't they start the fight with Orlando if they thought the way you're thinking now.
I've been saying that for years
I’m not buying none of this shit Keefe d is an informant I don’t even think he was in the car nor Orlando I think it was two cops. I think puffy casually stated he wanted to put a hit out but never materialized. The root of the set up goes back to Reggie wright Jr who ordered the no guns. Because I’m the end there’s no evidence pointing to puffy. When u think about it Keefe d gets offered a deal then comes out of nowhere stating who pulled the trigger. That’s a cop move lol it’s clear as day. 2 pac was killed in-house the very reason Suge couldn’t say anything
Why would keefe make up Dre being scared knowing that makes him look bad and his family would be mad? Shooting a famous person on Las Vegas strip is different then killing somebody don’t nobody know
Being from Philly i know what its like when the cops literally watch you grow up, working the same shifts in the same districts for tens of years smh.. they know who you are way before you realize they do. Its crazy.
Lol I'm from Palm Beach Florida and can cosign this. They know from the time we young kids who really about that life and who's not. And know us all by face and first name basis.
True indeed
Yep I'm from DC. When the police knew the gangsters, etc. in the hood, honestly it was less crime. They had a mutual respect. Now, nobody cares for eachother.
the only way Dre would of been hesitant if he though about a bounty being put on his head if he were to do it but not cause he was a punk in my opinion .orlando on the other hand was just angry and young minded so he acted on impulse
@@24KinfO you got out of context a little bit. That former cop wasn't saying the were cool with them gangsters, rather thru knew their activities and what they are capable of and they were under investigation.
Dude kept it real. I'm excited for the rest of the interview. As a matter of fact, just do us a favor and drop the whole thing lol
Facts this guy was great on vlad on the corruption part aside from the not wanting to talk about eye witness accounts in Vegas contradicting who their “informants” said was the driver.
Interview is going to be around 150 parts.
People have jobs. Can't just watch 2 hour videos. Smh
kept his lies real
Join
Not wanting to kill someone doesn't mean you're scared to do it.
Yep
THANK YOU!!!!!
I have self restraint
Smart brothers do
Ummmm in the streets it kinda does. I remember my friends telling me I was a bitch because I didn't want to steal a care from right in front of people's houses.
I dont think he was scared I think he was more on some like man I aint shooting 2pac thats 2pac y'all bugging ... its big difference from shooting ray ray from the block and shooting TUPAC ... dre coulda had love for pac, coulda liked his music and been a fan ... dre aint the 1 who got beat down so why he gonna shoot pac for ... prob was like he beat u down not me u wanna get back at him u do it I aint shooting that ngga
@@benaiahwright937nope. Your friends idiots then
That’s wild how Big Dre actually looks like Biggie
And crazy how Orlando Anderson looks like Tupac 😮
Right
@@marisoul9285Exactly
@@marisoul9285 lol errrm no
@@marisoul9285looks nothing like him 🤦♂️
This is good Art.. Bobby Ladd had a front row seat to these guys that were all involved on the front lines of this East Coast/West Coast beef. Bad Boy/Death Row
Plus Big Dre would get clowned by the set if he refused to shoot, that would really damage his street reputation
Exactly
This the most realistic take of the situation that I’ve seen
2pac had no business playing with Orlando
Art I've always liked your videos better than Vlad and you don't pretend you solved the Tupac homicide single handedly like him keep em coming 👍🏼
Solved it? By interviewing people Vlad alr dey did and basically hearing same thing ? Knock it off!!
Now I do prefer the way Art dialogues with them and he lets his guests talk too.
Vlad is like hey if it worked for Trump 🤷♂️
Art got the interview with pacs biological father Billy Garland and his brother so in my book art wins and he is a real true PAC fan vlad be having that pink belt in karate Michael jai white a D list actor if anything but he have him on his platform calling Tupac effeminate and Art always represents the real for Tupac when hater's try to hate so I'm riding with Art and I will tell anyone subscribe and like his videos cause I'm loyal too
@@pug6909-u2g in your book don’t count mate. In the context of who solved the murder it’s Vlad! PAC’s biological father or brother interview didn’t solve the pac murder case.
Vlad been doing this for years! What you talking about
Does it really matter who pulled the trigger? It doesn’t change anything if Orlando did it or Big Dre!
It does matter to a certain extent because want to know the truth
Agree it matters little but could a motivation for Keefe D to lie be to make Orlando and Keefe D look more impressive in the eyes of “Gangstas”?
Did it matter which desiciple Who betrayed jesus?
Because they’re BOTH DEAD
Exactly. Everyone involved is either dead or in jail
Everyone is saying Keefe D is lying about every part that he told. I wouldn’t be surprised if this thing fell apart
If Kefee D wasn’t there, how does he know PAC jumped into the backseat!? which explains why the bullet pattern starts from the passenger door to the rear passenger door in a straight line
He only lied about who the shooter was to protect him and he lied about tupac going for his gun so that he could claim self defense.
He is not he was lying he knew Big Dre a shooter that would be scared. And he also he's agreeing with keefe that orlando was the shooter because that's why the murder happened, it was his call and he was the one that got humiliated by pac.
Exactly right on getting his respect back. Remember this is a gang expert and see these men grew up. Tupac didn't know who they were fucking with they were real gangsters born and raised in Compton
He knew. Acceptance of the gang meant more to him. Chased acceptance his whole career.
So, why wasn't any of those reputable Gang Members touched that night, let alone afterwards, especially since those reputable Gang Members were caught beating on Orlando Anderson that night more than either Pac or Suge ?
Mickey mouse mafia... None of them would even dream of fucking with real gangsters!
He is no expert that's for sure
Means nothing that same gangster got dropped by a smaller man his feelings was hurt he told his boys and they did a thing I got a homie serving life for something like this supposedly hurt feelings make bad decisions
Now this guy really really knows and experienced what he's talking about.
His story sounds the realest. I’m raised down the street from these dudes I know some solid guys from the South they are about that money and that action
We All Knew Big Dre Wasn’t Scared 😢No Hardcore Crip Can Fold In A Situation Like That Or Else Get Out The Car 🚘 & Walk Home 🏡
Salute Art you killing Vlad right now!
Y yall always bringing up vlad stop being messy they both doing their due diligence
@@queenofnyc5584no it’s because Vlad came out salty over Art doing interviews about Pac like he did
No he isn't buddy no where near a million subs yet
Y’all the reason east coast west coast happened. Y’all fans always pitting people against each other for some bullshit. Just enjoy the show.
Dope interview!
My intuition tells me it was Keefe who did it
He actually unintentionally admits to it. Responding from the mike Tyson threat, how is he able to see pac break dancing if he's in the passenger seat? I believe keffe was in the backseat letting those rounds go off.
Me 2
I totally agree he has so much anger and Jealousy for pac
@@deelove7518100%. And if you look at the bullet pattern on the car, it almost verifies his claim of PAC, trying to get in the backseat.
@@Toni-id2pv not to mention that was his nephew who got jumped on. Unc ain't like that at all
I now believe Big Dre was the shooter,since the witnesses said the shooter had a big arm..not skinny.
i believe bugs bunny did it, Dre is not light skinned
@@str8cloudneighter one of them in the car
Y’all keep saying that big arm bs when people disputed that 100 times by now 🤦🏽♂️ damn I’m so tired of hearing that big arm bs
Big arm is just a figure of speech... If you got attacked by a moderate size dog you'd probably say this big dog started coming after me.
it was a light skinned muscular arm..he had facial hair, and he was a bitc what Kadfi said. dumb ass cop cant solve a crime make it up@@chrisl1920
This man is telling nothing but the truth
How do you know? 🤣… Y’all believe anything
@SocaDonTV just like ya'll believe anything 😂
Keefie was in the actual car and this guy wasn't but you believe him 😅
No he's not stop being naive believing dirty cops
Baby Lane killed Pac
Thanks for the clarification,sir. He's narration on big dre coming in for Orlando shows that gangsters don't move in one or loitering around, especially when they are aware of opps that move in numbers are coming to same location.
2. Getting different tickets at different seats Implies talking about the meeting point before the boxing match begins... And no gang set will pick a vulnerable position like entrance at the peak of war.
Pac ran after orlando first and was the 1st to hit him. So that explains the rookie and wana be gang banger and he was.
@@stuartchilongozi2439 not trying to be gang banger,sir. The chain of reaction didn't begins from that. Orlando jumping their crew to snatch DR chains. Snatching DR chains aimed at taking shots at Pac and not on others. Orlando and his crew attacked them first..Pac didn't see gang banger but someone trying to steal from them. Every abled man will jump Orlando in that situation.
I remembered DMX narrating a story of him robbing a guy who robbed Mr. A but when Mr. A and his friends saw him with it, they jumped him... It is natural state of mind...
@@tellaoluwatobaibrahim I get you.
War 😂😂😂😂
You have to take in considerations the "star struck" factor. These guys were also fans of 2pac. It's not like shooting a stranger. If you a fan you feel like you know him like an uncle or a cousin.
facts
You are entitled to your opinion. Streets don't Care about Rappers then and they definitely do NOT Care NOW. How many Rappers need to die from Violence on the West Coast for ppl to understand? 1996 Street Dudes had just as much or more $$$ than Rappers. The financial dynamic did not start to change until after the Hard Knock Life Tour.
Compton(Hub City) and LA are Different .
@@jahaad8430I agree especially back then gangstas were getting just as much $$ if not more plus a rapper swinging on a G hell no ya ass in trouble RIP Tupac doe!!!
Not a chance it don’t matter if you were his fan once he violate its over, brothers have killed brothers from the beginning of time and even if u didn’t wanna shoot pac ur gonna have to because the people in the car might switch on you and If they don’t kill you ur street credit will definitely be tarnished Which is a No no so I don’t believe big dre said he not shooting pac
Real killers like Dre and Orlando don’t give a fuck about you being a rapper especially in a situation like that when somebody just disrespected them😂😂😂ain’t no start struck in that moment. People who believe Dre was scared are crazy. It’s one thing to believe orlando did it but believing Dre was scared or panicked are crazy. Keefe D would have never had him in that car if he was one of those kind and he’d never have continued hanging with crips after “folding” on a mission lmao
Gangsters don’t get mad, they get even.
They were not gangsters, just trigger happy fools
@@godhg9694 and Tupac was a sucker punching dummy for hitting Orlando.
@@godhg9694they was killers that’s what gangsters do
And unlike today’s child gangsters, OG’s move in silence, with violence! Kids nowadays run right to social media to dry snitch on themselves, for clout. Fkn pathetic😂
@@ijumpjudy No ,Tupac was a sweet, kind, gentle soul. He had the wrong friends.
💯 This man know Gang life . If orlando got humiliated and beaten you know he best go get his respect back .
2pac paying everyone bills 😂...
N he chillin n cuba minding his business
No way anyone can confirm or deny it big dre was scared. Keefe d was there. Maybe dre thought shooting a celebrity was a bad idea.
Yes big dre didn't want to kill a rap star and a movie star. Juice was big dre favorite movie
Suge said only 2 people was in the car. Orlando wasn’t the shooter.
I doubt it
@@rick6672 you can't prove that at all
So if Orlando shot the car why is back of bmw car shot up
Ladd is a legend and knows his shit
It's possible that big dre didn't want to shoot tupac because 1. He loved tupac, and 2. It would be a high profile case .
Big Dre and Baby Lane took turns blasting
@@MarioSanders-rm8yrwhich is highly unlikely.
Nah mane if he cared that much he would’ve talked Orlando out of doing it..
@chrisconnors9449 He likely did, but Keefe was the one that was the most upset, and they had to follow his orders.
@@chrisconnors9449 big dre can control himself but not someone else. I mean he probably didn't hold back but he could have.
It was just so visible, people and cops everywhere. Tgere are times when killers hold back
I remember Keefe D saying Dre didnt wanna do it because he liked 2Pac.
Bullshit dre was also a suspect in Venus and Serena sister murder
@@deelatimore6908 yeah I didn't believe him either
Do you have a longer interview? So interesting! I love your channel you get all sides and opinions. So good!
Well Well Well, what do we have here
Facts close the book now he can’t explain any better. RIP all of them brothers 💯
The most gangster thing you can do, is not be a gangster at all
-- The Real K-Rino
No, He from here in Texas automatically void buster shit stay happenin around here
@@nawfslimI used to stay off Broadway. Then I stayed off Telephone Road. The same thing I seen there I seen in New Orleans,Denver,Savanah and Tampa. You're tripping.
It's Looking more and more likely that Big Dre was the shooter
Big Dre and driver would have both been in the line of fire if Orlando was the shooter.. No way Orlando had a clear shot from his positioning in the vehicle.
@@LooksGoodTooMe and his shoulder was allegedly dislocated
That's bullshit he would have had to lean out the window with his left hand unless he used his right hand in which he would have had to turn his whole body and face to the car if I had to guess he was right-handed like most people are was a fan of Pac like most people were and didn't get punched in the face directly by Tupac so he wasn't is amped up as Orlando who just got jumped by a whole football team of bloods when pac took it upon himself to do it why wouldnt lane do the same to pac roles reversed
There are no medical records to support that Orlando's shoulder was dislocated if his shoulder was dislocated he wouldn't have been standing so calmly yet looking pissed off in the middle of the MGM
@@rizzmatic187 🤔
I dont think he was "afraid" to shoot Tupac but he might not want to shoot him because he was Tupac.
Exactly, shooting a high profile star brings alot more heat
Even though he says he thinks Orlando was the trigger man he has actually changed my opinion and now I am about 98% certain it was Dre.
1. Dre was sitting at the driver side window
2. Dre was a shooter
3. Kadafi said he saw a fat arm as the shooter
4. Can't see Orlando leaning over big Fat Dre shooting out of his window.
5. Witness testified to the grand jury that Dre told him he did it.
Fair points except for the first one. By all accounts they didn’t think they were gonna be able to pull up to the side of Pac’s car like that. That was just a lucky coincidence. Their intent was to go to Club 662 and get him there.
It was Orlando 100%... grow up buddy...
@@ryanredding1533 right but what does that have to do with them pullinig up on his side and giving the gun to him.
@@universalconquest4447 so you have no points or facts to refute anything
@@urbanflavorzlas Vegas pd said it was Orlando, Tupac an them was whooping his ass bad on mgm lobby I may have responded to 😂
Pac gettin murdered by a Biggie lookalike is wild
Bro said “Orlando hit somebody in the head, and his clip fell out. So Big Dre stepped in and shot the guy in the head.” But also believes that Orlando reached over Big Dre to shoot 2Pac, without having a clear shot? Without Dre being burnt by any shells? So Big Dre didn’t just snatch the gun and shot for his friend again?
His arm was fully out the window. The shells would fall to the ground. His leaning over Dre explains why he missed so many shots though Pac was right there.
@@kevinlee9929the shells would've moved to the ground when the car is moving at a high rate.
@@lalosalamanca8574 The car stopped so Orlando could shoot. Then it took off.
At the same time Orlando was like 6ft tall and had long arms so him reaching over Big Dre shouldn't be that much of a challenge.
@@kevinlee9929 they stopped for a millisecond when the shots fired they accelerated quickly which in turn would've made the shells fly. Everybody in Compton knew big dre did it. As a matter of fact both of them were braggin about it. Everybody knew big dre was a STEPPA why would he be scared
Yea man thats true, anybody ever been in the back seat of a 96 deville knows theres hella room, and Orlando after getting packed out had to be the one to put in work no doubt.
Rip Blondie great guy met him a few times always a class act in the community. And Bobby was great guy too.
No way didn't know he had passed away
@@1979jonHe didn’t die, it was Brennan.
@@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH Oh remember now , was his partner
Nah fucc all thatv
@@1979jon I was talking about Tim Brennan his cop partner.
It's like he is proud to say they are gangsters for reacting in an immature emotional way to a problem with violence using a weapon instead of having a fair one.
Because he knows what they have to do to be gangster so it ain’t immature, he knows what it takes y’all don’t
And he’s not being biased and hating he just telling the story regular not the same shit as y’all be doin. Y’all come looking to hate and talk shit etc.
I think big dre is the killer
Suge and Keefe know the truth
Punk ass keefe shot Pac
💯
Big dre or lil half dead
Me to
The uncle would be more angry at what happened more than the gang. That's blood. You are going to go hard for real family. That's why he went after Suge. Listen to his interview. He was like "Orlando was a kid man", "a grown man fighting a kid". So yea, I think he shot them
Everybody that was behind Suge & Tupac's car said they saw a big arm reach out the window and shoot. Gauranteed it was the driver. (Which i think was Big Dre) But why blame Orlando?😒🤨
If you listen to his story keefe says originally he was in another car but the dudes were scary so he got into the car with the real hitters
Yeah they riding around in a van looking for pac they pulled up to the club and was out number
And pac wasn’t there
Thats when he hopped in the rental car
Vlad been stepping it up lately. His content is much better. Good Job!
Didn't Keefe D say in an interview with AOD that Orlando's shoulder was popped out of socket from the jumping at the MGM? If so, how could he shoot over Big Dre with a bad shoulder and shoot precisely into Suge's car?
Keefe lied about Orlando's shoulder when he was trying to back track for snitching on his nephew. Keefe family wasn't happy he told.
@@kevinlee9929he had dislocated shoulder theirs medical report showing Anderson went to Sunrise hospital.
After the shooting, Orlando was seen at the MGM by Stacey Augmon and returned to the strip in 47 minutes, which is the approximate time between the fight and the shooting?
Consider the hospital scenario for a moment.
After getting jumped, Orlando stays at the hotel for questioning for at least 10-20 minutes, give or take, then leaves with those four guys who were circling him during questioning. Afterwards, he goes to the emergency room, but it takes them another 30 minutes to get there because of hotel traffic, finding the car, navigating Las Vegas Michael Tyson Fight Night traffic, and finally arriving at Sunrise Hospital and getting checked in, waiting in line until even you get to see a doctor, let alone the paperwork he had to fill out for insurance purposes, and the fact that he's from out of state,??? (Laughable),
Now ask yourself this question, who gets out of emergency room in less than 47 MINUTES after all that I mentioned and still finds Tupac and Suge on the crowded strip? GTFOH
@@MultiKadafi
@@ShafiqHusaynmusic This is not no HOOD over packed hospital in Chicago smh. They get you in and out of there real fast in Vegas. They not dealing with 5 people being shot every night and a bunch of uninsured sick people.
Nay, My moms worked in E.R. for 40 years and she said it would be impossible for anyone to in and out of a ER in 47 Minutes and still make it back to the strip to do that shooting.
You can believe all that jaded journalist and police narrative, but He did not shoot Tupac, and I believe Suge on that part too, HE WAS THERE. @@urbanflavorz
I watched this guy & his partner on Vlad TV. They gave an excellent interview.
Growing up in the inner city you become numb to violence. It is just one of the many things that is normalized.
Exactly
This is good, You nice bro keep pushing i like your vibe more than VLAD
He isn't lying!
In the thumbnail, dude looks like Sal from Impractical Jokers 10 yrs from now.
Facts big dre was a killer
WOW! I had no idea Big Dre was a demon like this. What was Pac thinking putting his hands on some savages like this?
He did not know these people. You could get involved in a fight with someone and they can pull out a gun. It happens all the time.
He didn't know all he knew was that Orlando was wearing a stolen Feathrow chain that Travon lane put him on
@@kanyegang2810Exactly!
Pac saw them as diddy's chain snatchers but these guys are hitters from young, Pirus messed up majorly especially Treyvon lane that coward didn't handle his business.
@@kanyegang2810 only suge knew all of this about them niggaz if I'm suge I'm tellin pac yo we knoe u down bro but u also the money machine an I can't afford too put u in harm's way we gonna sit back an watch the boys stomp Anderson out but not u
This dude is telling the truth
He’s just saying what he believes based off how he feels gangs work, on him and his partners old interview they seemt to not want to address contradictions to their “informants” claim that keefe d was the driver compared to what eye witnesses said the driver looked like. That shows they already are stubborn and if anyone gets offended at this it shows they are also stubborn and just want to be entertained or are paid for.
All I know if a nigga leaned over on me and shot out the window we would have to fight when the car stops.
no he not
@@beardgangtabernacle5795mfs just be talking bruh
@@rio.escobowhat a rant 😂
How do you access the full interviews? Even on the website it’s only the 4 minute clips.
In my opinion, Keefe D was the shooter. Which boss ride in the front seat? They usually get in the back seat. No one knows the actual order they was actually seated.
Reggie Wright Jr. just talked about this Big Dre shooting yesterday.
Yeah man, I grew up watching these Gangsters man, during my time at PD man, we learned a clip was a magazine man, but man, for cool points man, let's call a magazine a clip man. 🤘right on man!
Really hope they make a movie about Orlando Anderson dude lived a hell of a life
"A hell of a life" ?? Dude, he was a gangbanger that shot and killed people until he himself was shot and killed🤨
Part of one, anyway
Funny how big Dre Looked like biggie and Orlando Anderson looked like Pac very interesting
I agree
Nobody is reaching over another man to shoot 🙄. That's not how those kinda things work lol... 🚫🧢💯
Sheep
Nah. I believe the shots came from lane. The shot in the windshield shows it came from lane. Big Dre would’ve had to lean damn there out the car to shoot at the front of the car like that…. The bullet trajectory shows the car was shot up while moving past pac car. Lane was no lil dude. Only way you let off the shots in that car and not been seen hanging out shooting is if you on the right side spraying left to right. The only thing you’d see is an arm
Talk about it 🎯
Seen it happen myself it definitely happens brotha idk what u saying
@@313tee0this. It definitely happens. Anybody that think it don’t is clueless.
Crazy he saw them from childhood, grow up.
The law enforcement officers have a lot of perspective
We black, bruh. Black people deal with certain ish differently than other cultures. No real black person can picture a gangster letting another dude REACH across him to fire a gun in his face! Foh
If the homie got it, you gotta let the homie do his thing.
Whatever Keffe said in the confession tape is more than likely true. Orlando definitely did it.
I believe it too. I mean, it all makes sense. He got jumped and wanted to retaliate.
Not according to his response to Tyson. He implied that he was the shooter.
Outlawz were in a car behind the white Cadillac. They're on record saying they saw a "big black hand" doing the shooting. Big Dre was 6'5" >300lbs... and sitting rear driver's side where the shots came from.
Thank you Bobby Ladd! Gang activity in Cali was different in the 90s! If 2pac didn’t touch that man he would not have died that night… hell diddy gotta do with this
He paid a bounty for death row chains.
@@chenlou7366what that got to do erythromycin Orlando killing Pac for beating him up
@@bohammondlee7472 that was the set up .
Childish comments
Pac had altercation with gangster before row
Tut alone can beat b lane
@@chenlou7366 I don't get it Pac Suge with Dre there beat the shit out of a Diddy associate trying to get info on Puffy family location. Made him drink urine Pac told Big and Puffy his fofo make sure all they kids don't grow. The least Puffy could have done was wanted a Death Row chain for a video. Pac got himself killed all blame on him.
Don’t forget, that Cadillac’s interior was spacious.
@ 0:23😂😂😂😂Thats the whitest that phrase can be said
A lot of cars in the 90’s back windows only go down halfway I wonder if that particular Cadillac’s back windows went all the way down or halfway?
Excellent memory...All them friggin windows went half way down...I used to be like WTF ..👍
Keefe D - 'My nephew was a good kid'
Get the f out of here, rest in piss
Weirdo
Buster
Orlando was a good kid man. Dre was a division d player man. Leave these kids alone
Man and who was pac orlando was what pac fronted to be.
@@TonyPIRANIO I have no clue what you said
Awesome,,glad you got him in these themes 20ac interviews ✔️✔️💯💯
What if it was too difficult to find Suge's car in Vegas on fight night? What if the odds of finding Suge's car at 11pm off the strip in Vegas were slim to none? What if the only way to find Suge's car would be if someone inside Suge's circle was giving information on his whereabouts?
It was the aliens man
They not the secret service. Pac a superstar they not gonna be hard to find
He wasn't gonna be hard to find they knew he was going to perform at suge's club that night have you heard Keefe d tell the story? If not you should hear it it doesn't sound far fetched for them to find Tupac that night he definitely wasn't trying to keep a low profile
He wasn’t gonna be hard to find man it’s highly unlikely to be a conspiracy like that. They were riding several cars lined up, probably all standout vehicles being that they’re with Death Row. Pac was hanging out the window screaming so they happened to spot him. If they didn’t find them in traffic, it’s highly likely that they would’ve just spun back to 662 again and handled the situation then.
Are they knew when and where they would be at because there was flyers everywhere promoting a concert that night off the strip keywords off the strip this was not on the strip this was headed past the strip traffic leading to the strip is always more busier than the traffic leading away from the strip this is coming from somebody who drove here for years as a occupation also the lights they caught them out come in multiples there's a lot of lights in between 662 and the strip they were a few lights off of the strip by the time they caught up with them on koval
It's been cut & dry since day one. They jumped a known murderer and Tupac paid the ultimate price. Life isn't fair bro.
The thing is Keefe is a lot older than Orlando and Dre so just like a older brother or father you never think your little brother or son is on demon time
shut up please
I mean he knows what they was on but they was way younger than him, and love em type shit
Obvious Ladd hasn’t ever have a shoulder dislocated. It’s just extremely painful. And you can’t raise your arm.
So everyone knows more about the situation then the ppl who was there
It funny lol 😂
@@danettemclean1269 you can’t make this up These cops show that they don’t like to be Wrong 🤣
I keep clicking on this videos thinking it’s VLAD TV lol😂
Keefe D gotta everybody fooled he probably wasn’t even in the car
He was definitely in the car
@@shawnmoney8055 How do you know? did you see him?
Could have been the driver I believe
@@askiahrichardson8911 Being a triggerman and driver at the same time is very difficult.
@@intenseninja82Is it? Tell that to the driver who killed Big
Justice for 2Pac fallen not forgotten All Eyez On Me 2Pac now 2023".
I dont see big Dre being a D1 basketball player at 375 pounds
Yeah, I was a little confused on that one.
Yes but shooting the most famous rap star in the industry is not the same shooting somebody in the hood! They knew this will cause backfire
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I agree with kading. He keeps helping me realize it's Orlando. It wasn't big dre business. Furthermore pac was a rapper so big dre was like nah
Kading is as crooked as it gets
Go check tge George torress case u shouldn't believe anything kading said
@@htatesil4192 is like to meet him and attend his lecture on the 2pac case and ill be the audience
that's what happens when you work with "informants". it's often a net negative. police have no right to negotiate with criminals behind court's backs.
Hahaha..His own office said he bogus Kading is a joke ..He wrote a book .crazy.. shit. and made keefe a deal to,save LA of a 400 million lawsuit from ms Wallace suing LA.when. Detective Russell Poole solved both cases and they,Wright's and Co.killed him in a waiting room wit all files in hand,Ex Cops did both cases Amir,Mack,and The Wright's
No corners Cut He Got The Best Interviews Out Of All The Cops He keep Ish Real Telling Them Boyz wasn’t no punks & they really was like that‼️💯🚫🧢
I like this. guys straight to the point, no b.s just tells it how he sees it.
Smh!! When Keffie D did that proffer agreement remember they told him if he lied about anything & they found out he would not just be convicted for the drug crime , but also the crime he was telling on. So why would he say it was his own nephew & not Dre. Doesn’t make sense.
Cos it's made up to get LA off wit 400 million lawsuit free keefe
I dont think they evrr tell the whole truth in those situations, plus Orlando was already gone. Culdnt hurt tu put the body on him
Dudes shot at cop cars but never got arrested it the cops knew who do it. Yea ok buddy makes sense to me
2Pac shot 2 cops and got arrested but not convicted of that incident.
It's not what you know, it's what you can prove!
Orlando did get arrested for it dummy he got off because he was still a juvenile
It doesn't take a cop to understand a known gang banger doesn't intentionally get into a car to go kill someone to suddenly get cold feet when the opportunity arrives. Everybody thats in a driveby car, is in there for a reason, from the driver to the shooter/shooters.
Exactly. They are all willing to dump.
Exactly
He's saying all that with no proof he's just trying to help convict
Nobody's gonna give tupac a pass in compton because he's a celebrity
Well how did you explain Puffy living Los Angeles?
puff was paying for protection but only for him
How people can tell the only person alive who was actually in the car what did and didn’t happen that night is beyond me. Lots of people grew up in Compton and were not cold blooded anything. It’s disrespectful and stereotypical to label them all that way. That’s why that racist department was disbanded
How come we haven’t had a puffy interview is my biggest question
I still think Dre was the shooter. In order for Orlando to have a shot, and extend his ARM out the window, he would need to basically be sitting in Big Dre's lap. Especially when you consider that there was a "big arm" extended out the window. Shell casings in the street = Big Dre.
🤦🏽♂️ did u not see the Greg kading interview art did a few days ago? Where he said it’s easy to lean over and shoot somebody they tested it already with somebody Dre size 🤦🏽♂️
i think orlando fired the first shots that hit pac and then handed the gun to dre who shot the window out that hit suge
It was always Orlando. He wouldn’t have allowed anyone else to put in work for him when he could do it.
You never know though. Maybe Big Dre was like naw man I don’t wanna shoot Tupac Shakur. Star struck? Big Dre prolly would have done it on any other beef.
Nah. I believe the shots came from lane. The shot in the windshield shows it came from lane. Big Dre would’ve had to lean damn there out the car to shoot at the front of the car like that…. The bullet trajectory shows the car was shot up while moving past pac car. Lane was no lil dude. Only way you let off the shots in that car and not been seen hanging out shooting is if you on the right side spraying left to right. The only thing you’d see is an arm
Great points
Dre's right arm
Absolutely right we’re GANGSTERS
Reggie said the same thing about that incident big Dre and lando was KILLAZ , I hate how suge said orlando was a good kid 🤦♂️
I wouldn't believe a word coming out of Suges mouth.
@@ivyc3500 yeah because Suge said Tupac is ALIVE 😂
@@KC1986JR suge a goofy smh 🤦♂️ after pac “never had a friend like me” was a rider for him
YOU COULD START A WHOLE SERIES W THUS GUY ON THE COMPTON WAR STORYS.....DO IT BRO
dam, shame he's law enforcement. because that means his account cat be trusted.
Somebody beats me down you better start planning your funeral.
If it was big dre why would keefe blame his own nephew baby lane. Keefe took alot of heat from his family for blaming his nephew.
Both lane and big dre were dead by the time he confessed to the police. Doesnt make sense to blame his own family when both men are dead either way.
Plus the proffer agreement he made with the police stated if he gets caught lying his confession can be used against him. The deal would have been voided if he got caught lying.
That's very true. He wants to give credit to his nephew for taking out Pac after he got beat down and humiliated which the world saw.