Hey Art. Next time you'll interview Napoleon, can you please ask him what he knows about the movie script "Live 2 Tell" that 2Pac was writing. He wanted to cast Napoleon and Kadafi in this movie. It would be interesting to hear more about Tupac's vision on movies, all his scripts and what he planned to do. Thanks a lot !
Yeah, I'm with this. Maaan, may he rest. I'd also like to hear about that movie where he wrote all the comedians and black actors at the time in the 90s. He had himself, Will Smith, Chris Tucker, etc
@@415_Stand-up speak for yourself, we're just here to listen and imagine what could've been about someone who was actually talented in damn near everything they did. Makavelli inspires us all. The scripts were written, the 1st step of ALL MOVIES YOU'VE SEEN 😂👌🏾 all love.
Exactly.....is dude a damn sniper. How he reaching over a dude soo big with fresh injuries and is able to hit the target not once but several times. Its a joke ppl can't use their brain.
Casings from EVERY gun are extracted and ejected to the right, which would’ve sent the casings towards the back of the drivers head, not towards the back left passenger. #Facts
@@leeroyleeroy6844 exactly!!!! So how was the drivers back seat passenger was gonna get hit with a hot casing? I’ve stood to the right of my homie shooting in the desert playing catch that casing. Glocks, sigs, berettas, smiths, heckler, kimber, bushmaster, browning, colts….. extract and eject to the right
At this point, it really don't matter who shot the gun. Apparently, they all were killers in that car, capable of doing it. So it was probably the person who had best shot. Which sounds like Big Dre. Plus one of the Outlawz said he saw a big black arm out the window
Anybody who's shot a gun in compromised positions will tell you it wasnt Orlando. The bullet pattern was not from someone leaning onver a 300 lb man, while just having his dislocated shoylder put back in place 2 hrs ago...
@@alejandronopasanada5302yeah adrenaline makes humans do crazy things I've seen it first hand and people seem to forget that Orlando was 6'3 he was a really tall dude and had long arms so reaching over Big Dre shouldn't be that hard for him.
@@b.a.m.mdoublem1196 Orlando Anderson was only 6'1" and he was very slim. It would have been impossible for him to reach over a guy who is 6'5" who weighs over 300lbs after just having is shoulder dislocated because he just got stomped down by multiple people and shoot 2pac.
@@gerardrbain1972 nah he could still reach over even if he wouldn't get a clear shot he was still tall asf and plus when adrenaline kicks in you forget that you have an injury.
Orlando Anderson died in 98 Big Dre died in 04 Keffe’s proffer agreement was in 09. Terrence “Bubble Up” Brown died in 2015 Terrence “Bubble Up” Brown was still alive when Keffe confessed to the murder of Tupac .
@@Nyc0629 Pretty bad of Art to not know such an obvious fact and to correct him. Gene Deal doesn't know what he's talking about. Literally no reason for Keefe to lie and say it was Lane and not Big Dre because Dre was dead too in 2009.
Brian Ladd and Greg Kading both spoke on Dre in the recent interviews they did on this channel and bomb first. He was under investigation for doing a murder with Orlando Anderson. Think they were at party and Dre shot somebody in the head@@pangoolal7512
Keefe: Handle yo' business, Big Dre. Dre: Please, Keefe D. I just came here to play blackjack at The Mirage. Keefe: That's fair. Who else in the back seat wanna catch a body?
99.99% Dre did it. Witnesses say they saw a BIG, BLACK arm come OUT the window. 1. Dre is the biggest and blackest in the car. 2. Orlando's dislocated shoulder. 3. And for Orlando to get his arm OUT the window from his position in the car he would have been sitting in Dre's lap. Not probable. Nothing about Orlando being the shooter makes sense. But Dre does.
So then the shooting was not in retaliation of the Orlando stomping, which makes the $1mil hit make sense and the call from Puff after the hit asking "was that us?"
@@mpho87 when I said, Dre. I meant Deandre. The guy in the cae next to Orlando who was closest and the best position to shoot. Which does make it a retaliation.
@@mpho87 just because Dre did it doesn’t mean it’s not retaliation it is. That’s literally why those 4 got in the car to begin with so no matter who did it the mission is complete that get back already been got
Thank u i'm tired of this guy lying. Next video he will say it was crooked cops that kill Pac. Art just sit there and let him lie because he know its going to get views. Its getting lame now lol
@@coolyoutubename16 if you're trying to base your narrative on the fact that Keefe tried to pin the murder on the dead man to protect real shooter who was alive, it doesn't make sense, as the alleged shooter was dead as well.
The one thing that never made since to me is how did they easily bust a U turn and then somehow pulled up next to Tupac and then somehow was able to drive away during a mike tyson fight the biggest boxer in the 90s
Aye bro this shit so mind blowing cause just like u said how u gone make u turn and just so happen to see them shoot and pull off like da timing was all perfect
Kading Interviewed Keefe D in 2009 . Big Dre died in 2004 . Terrance Brown died in 2015 . Terrance Brown (the driver ) was the only other person alive when Keefe did his proffer
@@MaccaveliPL And what version may that be? You must be one of the many Kading accounts I’ve torn to shreds. Your use of “conspiracy theorist” sure sounds like one of em. So tell me… What certain version of the Tupac case did I believe in? Find the comment for me? What UA-cam video was it? I’ve rarely even commented on the Tupac case. I admittedly didn’t even know Keefe resided in Vegas. My comments have gone into the biggie case. And everything I’ve said about that is backed up by an FBI investigation. Take Reggie and Kading’s jock strap out of your mouth for once.
@@krystaedwards3160 I don’t know if they did or not, honestly. I’m sure that’s what this clown in the first comment is alluding to. Even though I’ve never ever said that. 🤷🏾♂️ if someone does a thorough investigation into the case, I’ll have more to comment on. But that hasn’t happened yet, in my opinion.
Where’s the footage of Orlando walking in the hotel hallway going to his room? Where’s the records of Orlando getting checked out at the hospital? Too much shit going on with this case.
His boss was in their pocket. He was around them a lot at the time. And hood politics the same everywhere. If your boss asks you to do something You do it
Funny how u say that when Wack100 act like he know everybody business. He speak on Chicago, Atlanta, Philly, New York etc then has an attitude when somebody speaks on Cali 🖕🏾
His story changes everyday. First he said he saw a check made out by Puffy, then he says DR had Pac killed. At least RJ Bond stands by what he had/is saying. He still believes that Reggie, Kenner and Suge's ex wife planned the killing of Pac and Suge. He has been saying that since 2007.
Don’t they all sound like that though ? Everyone in the world on Vlad and arts show got some story like they was there lmao or was supposed to be in the car with pac that night
I was in a similar situation and i thought hell nah im not gonna shoot a gun across from my homie face. A motorcycle driver pulled up on the side of the passenger side i was driving with gun in hand and was gonna shoot dude on the bike but didn't wanna shoot the gun because my homie was in the passenger seat. With that being said no way Orlando pulled the trigger and if he did Big dre was a pussy for letting that happen to him. I would've been hot/mad like nigga what the fuck! Blamed it on Orlando cause he was the 1st to die.
Keefe said they came to Vegas with a van and Cadillac. He said he switched from the van to the Cadillac because the members in the van were scared so he didn't want to ride with them anymore. By stating that he already said that everyone in the Cadillac were shooters and far from scared. So he's lying about Big Dre being scared anyway. What I find strange is that we keep hearing about who was in the Cadillac but never about who exactly was in that van.
It's not hard to believe at all that Dre would shy away from killing the biggest rapper in the world on the Vegas strip the night of a Tyson fight. Who would hesitant is the hothead that got embarrassed and got his azz kicked.
@@kevinlee9929 not if you understand gang code and the rules of the game. Lane and Big Dre were like Red and Meth in the hood and got a lot of bodies and shootings on their names. Dre wasn't scared of anything and specifically if you violated Lane ore sombody else from the crew. He was with it and if Keefe told you 2 do something back then you had 2 do it!...ain't no way you could go back to Compton being a bit##
@@roykable I understand gang code just fine. Shooting someone in a situation like that. Is not like shooting some nobody on the block. Literally everyone outside of Orlando and Keefe didn't want to do the shooting then.
@@kevinlee9929 if you do then you know these guys didn't shy away from killing cops in Compton...you think they give a f#### about killing Pac after that violation and disrespect!! Bro that story about Dre comes from Keefe's lying mouth but Compton tells a different story. Ain't no scared ninjas with Suge and ain't no scared ninjas with Keefe back then. Besides, wasn't the first time ninjas who active tried killing Pac while he was already famous haha bro ninjas in the hood don't care if you famous!
When you understand the ballistics in terms of the actual bullets and HOW they hit the car you’ll know immediately that Orlando nor Keefe D were in that Cadillac… did you hear when Big Gene said that it was marksmen shooting???? There was a reason why he said that…. Suge Knight placed Raphael Perez in Vegas.. did you know that Raphael Perez was in the marines??? Put 2 and 2 together
I thought Gene said on this very channel that the ppl who hit Pac was the same person who hit Big. He said Keefe D nem didn’t do that. I think he was blaming it on the cops.
I think Keefe D told a lie cause Orlando wanted the rep and Dre didn’t. Dre already killed someone for Orlando before. I believe the informant that Orlando couldn’t go back to Compton without a get back.
Who cares about a rep in 2008 when both guys are dead, you're facing life in jail, and your family is facing time in jail too if you lie. It made ZERO SENSE for Keefe to lie. NONE.
Like the informant said, Big Dre was the shooter. The reason for the lie is Orlando not claiming the shooting after getting beat down by a "rapper" would have made him look suspect to the crip homies.
That’s what I was thinking too and maybe I heard it from a Crip who said he was friends with Dre and Orlando. What also makes me think it was Dre is from how Keefe evaded the question when asked if Dre was the shooter and he just responded with Dre was a ball player and good kid. Reality was that Dre was in the streets at this point.
I was in a similar situation and i thought hell nah im not gonna shoot a gun across from my homie face. A motorcycle driver pulled up on the side of the passenger side i was driving with gun in hand and was gonna shoot dude on the bike but didn't wanna shoot the gun because my homie was in the passenger seat. With that being said no way Orlando pulled the trigger and if he did Big dre was a pussy for letting that happen to him. I would've been hot/mad like nigga what the fuck! Blamed it on Orlando cause he was the 1st to die.
You wrong and making things up. Them people were already dead but you just sat up there and said they weren’t. Wrong. You are also saying Orlando was in the bar, in the hotel, and the hospital and not in the car but then saying he had a “dislocated arm” and couldn’t shoot or reach over. Which one is it dog. The longer he talks the more ridiculous it gets.
Gene deal is the best story teller out of all these people who talk about the Tupac biggie murders , dude sounds convincing every topic he talks about, even though he’s been inconsistent sometimes
Dirty cops killed Tupac and biggie.. Kevin Gaines, Rafael Perez, Nino Durden, David Mack and Richie McCullough all involved.. ironically kevin gaines was killed by another white cop Frank lygaaa 9 days after biggie died.. you do the match.
There wasnt any specialized “uniform way” to the bullet patterns. So is Gene saying Dre was a marksman? Or is he saying it wasn’t Gang Related if Dre pulled the trigger instead of Orlando? Sometimes I think Gene just likes hearing himself talk…
All the bullets went right down the center of the car. If any normal person fired a handgun that fast the bullets would be going high and low. It takes a lot of practice to be able to fire that many shots rapidly and keep them in the same area.
@@micahwest2793 no it doesn’t you idiot lol, there was nothing special about that shooting. It was just another drive by except the victims were famous. But your defiantly stupid as hell.
@@micahwest2793 not really, there were holes in both the passenger side rear and front doors, as well as at least one in the passenger side of the windshield. It doesn’t take some specialized training to shoot a gun in that manner. Aim and shoot. You’re talking a distance of less than five feet, up close and personal. Those bullets didn’t have to fly very far to hit the target. Not to mention, if it Orlando was the triggerman, he could have all but braced himself on the window seal or on Dre for better accuracy and a steady hand. Let’s not forget, it wasn’t these guys first rodeo, they were being investigated in connection with multiple other murders at that time. This “rumor” of a miraculous shooting pattern is false. Gene Deal seems to be behind in the investigation. That may be why he ended up a bodyguard telling popular stories on Vlad or Art instead of becoming a law enforcement officer or detective…..
Dre did it, Orlando did it, really doesn't matter at this point, us the fans wanna see puffy sweet ass get locked up for all the shyt he's done to people , and getting away with being a booty bandit for this long
@@Nyc0629the witnesses literally said a big dark arm came out the window and started shooting. Orlando was neither. Greg Kading had Keefe D on drug charges that would put him in prison for life and let him walk free if he told him Orlando shot Tupac. Why not just put him away on the drug charges that he got from selling to an informant???
Much love to Gene; but he’s story about Sean combs has changed. He said he saw the check then he’s saying it was an inside job and that keefe didn’t do it but Dre did? Without keefe? Anderson didn’t had a dislocated shoulder. He wouldn’t be able to move his arm and he would have to hold his arm against his chest and he was moving his arm fine in the video after the fight. Last Glock bullet casing eject to the right, toward the driver not Dre
@@LanceG007 thought so nigga that why I can say I wasn’t the only on who saw it. F#€k I look like trying to prove something to you Gumps that can’t see the Forest cause of the trees
I was getting my gun permit and few of my casings got me on the arm and they are hot with eye and ear protection. No nicca going to let you lean across them and let off 9 or 10 rounds. Unless you a character in the movie full metal jacket.
@@kevharris1451 how am I hating?? I literally said I'll continue watching because he's entertaining apparently you're too stupid to understand what that means. Go look at Gene's interviews and tell me he doesn't change his stories, cause he definitely does.
Wrong! Orlando died in 98 Big Dre died 04 Keffe’s proffer agreement was in 09. Terrence “Bubble Up” Brown (the driver) died in 2015. Bubble Up was still alive when Keffe confessed.
I was in a similar situation and i thought hell nah im not gonna shoot a gun across from my homie face. A motorcycle driver pulled up on the side of the passenger side i was driving with gun in hand and was gonna shoot dude on the bike but didn't wanna shoot the gun because my homie was in the passenger seat. With that being said no way Orlando pulled the trigger and if he did Big dre was a pussy for letting that happen to him. I would've been hot/mad like nigga what the fuck! Blamed it on Orlando cause he was the 1st to die.
Do you know everything about this case and when Keefe has been spoken to? Keefe has said himself that he was approached by the Feds in 1999 about the incident so it is possible he blamed Orlando when Dre was alive.
Was big Dre right handed or left handed ? Reason being if he’s left handed it would have been easy for him and if he’s right handed it would’ve even hard for him to shoot accurately into the BMW plus a 370 pound man that’s 6’5” would of had a hard time turning to face the car and shoot accurately from the back seat of the car as for Orlando having a dislocated shoulder and shooting over Big Dre with all them shells falling on him is crazy cause shooting from the back seat across from some one that’s 6’5” 370 pounds would definitely need u to use ur free arm to prop u up on either the front head rest or the back seat this is deep I will be glad when all this comes together
Can someone please tell Gene that Freaky Dre died in 2004 and also tell him that not all of the shell casings were recovered at the scene meaning a few did fly back in the car in Dre's face 🤷🏾♂️. Also ask Gene why he believes Keefe when he says Orlando's shoulder was dislocated, so Keefe lied about going to 662 to get a fair fade? Ask Gene if Dre twisted his 6'5 360lb body around to fire those shots at the Sebring and at Buntry's Toyota Supra which was behind the Cadillac. Also inform him that it wouldn't be the first time that a person reached pass a bigger person to fire a gun,especially in a Cadillac. Art is just gonna let this dude babble
@@AlfaQgoodeall the witnesses said a big dark arm came out the window Orlando was neither. The Las Vegas police records showed Orlando went to Sunrise Hospital that's why they never considered him a suspect.
Yeah Orlando ain’t reach over Dre big axx to shoot that shit is stupid Dre was well known for dumping all of a sudden he got cold feet ? Cmon Keefe pass the fye to him I can’t see someone letting a nikka reach over them and buss a loud a gun that many times; plus you got eye witnesses saying it was a large dark arm that was hanging out the window. Dre was still living when keefe made these statements and got family out here Keefe wasn’t gonna give him up
Gene you’re wrong Dre was dead when Keefe confessed to Greg kading. No reason at all for him to lie about the shooter unless it’s himself or Terrance brown, the supposed driver
The reason he said it was orlando was because he didn’t want to mess up orlandos reputation in the streets. He wanted his nephews legacy to live on and forever be known as a legend who got his get back on the biggest rapper in the world. In other words he didn’t want his nephew to look like a bitch
Ppl keep saying Orlando had a dislocated arm after the altercation at the mgm grand. I know he went to sunrise hospital after the beating but he didn’t look hurt when security were questioning him at the mgm grand. I will say that they we’re kicking him like he was a ⚽️ tho. 🤣
@@beyondbeleef1013even Keefe D admitted he had his arm put in a sling. Orlando's family said years ago his shoulder was hurt in the attack. Then a couple years ago RJ Bond got the Las Vegas police records and it showed Orlando went to Sunrise Hospital. That's why Vegas never considered him a suspect. There's no way he went to the hospital and got back in time to catch Tupac in traffic.
There are records of him going to the hospital. Those records were also used when he sued Tupac’s estate because of his injury. Also, he was known to always have issues with his shoulder. He kept an arm sling with him.
@@micahwest2793this shit don't add up cause BG Knoccout said he saw Orlando the next day after the shooting he said he was absolutely fine no dislocated shoulder no sling no nothing.
Gene seems to be the dude that's genuine, but like 90 percent genuine, if this dude was 100 he would say none of them did the shooting, it wasn't Orlando or Keefe, that night was a plotted hit and IMO was done by Kevin Gaines, or Mack and Perez
Give Gene credit. He been saying it wasn't orlando because as Gene was saying "dude said he saw a Big Black Arm" dre arm fits that description. Also various reports I've read about this has said orlando didn't do it. Reggie and kenner set that up
To inject some credence to what Gene is saying, Keefe D did say he left another vehicle (I think a van) because those guys were about the bizness and hopped into the white caddy/car. suggesting that everyone in the car was cool with the mission. Hmmmm...
Being cool with it doesn't mean you would want to be the 1 to actually do it. Not surprising at all that Dre would get cold feet when the actual moment was at hand. Especially when Keefe was the 1 who originally was going to shoot
I have never heard Vegas PD say Orlando didn’t shoot Pac. Corey made up the whole he was at the bar bs, then recanted years later and told the real truth….
@@MaccaveliPL he admitted as much on the Who Killed Tupac series. I believe he is another one who got helmed up on criminal activity and spilled the beans to protect himself. The unsolved series breaks much of it down…….
And when you’re someone who continues to watch Gene and your to stupid not to click the buttons to hear him it makes it seems that you was on the Ree-Ree bus
What is he talking about? Orlando in a Cadillac deville? Dre was big but orlando was thin. He could’ve stuck his hand out the car leaning over dre and not one shell would hit either of them they would fall into the street. Why is gene out here acting like he never shot a gun before? The shells fly out the right side of the gun that’s the opposite direction from where dre was sitting. Even without sticking his arm out the window. At close range there’s nothing impressive about the grouping of the rounds. People think because someone was in law enforcement they’re versed on guns. Learn about guns and watch cop shows even homicide detectives don’t shoot their guns that often. This is why Reggie is always laughing while he destroys gene’s theories.
Keefe D only said ORLANDO because it's easier to tell on your own family vs telling on somebody else family he rather deals with Orlando's mother than Big Dre family
Hey art can you interview reggie wright jr. And bring up how he got fired the day before pac got shot in vegas ask him why he got fired and where he was the night pac got shot also ask where his father was at that exact same time PLEASE NOBODY IS BOLD ENOUGH TO ASK
So a 6’5 340 360 lbs man gon reach over his body and pop a car sitting closest to him underneath the door handle. Cmon son. The bullet trajectory proves it was the right hand backseat. Dre couldn’t shoot that shot into the windshield. The investigation photos show shells all over the ground. He the only person who can get his arm out the window far enough so the shells wouldn’t be in the white caddy. The investigation photos show the street covered in shells
@charlie4339 Gene is trying his hand at Crime Scene investigation now. He has gone from law enforcement, criminal defense attorney, correctional officer Neveda state prison, personal chef, bodyguard, and now detective. I wish he make up his mind.
People continue to Validate Greg Kading Story not realizing it is What Keefe Deet told him. Greg Kading Saying Keefe Dee is an unreliable witness makes his investigation unreliable!
*Gene is wrong. The gun shell ejection port is on the right side of the gun, so the shells would fly to the right side and not hit big dre in the face.* Also orlando leans over and fired the gun from outside the window. Maybe they both shot 2pac and took turns on the the gun. The way Keefe d mentions Orlando and big dre names, it really does seam like Orlando did it. Nothing suspicious when he says big dre or orlandos name.
It's impossible Orlando had an injured shoulder from the beating he took at the hotel. He most certainly was not the shooter. But Big Dre's hand is not what the eye witness Yaki Fula saw. He didn't say a big black arm. He said it was a brown arm. That could have been one and only rogue LAPD cop, Raphael Perez. That was a well trained shooter. Big Dre was there but wasn't the shooter. Pac was assassinated by cops. Bounty hunters. Working with Kefee Dee. That's why he didn't claim the $1M.The rogue LAPD cops took it. Kefee Dee lied.
Gene, Big Dre had passed away around 2003. Keefe’s confession was years after this. He probably handed the gun to Dre because Dre is the easiest person to hand it to. Think if you’re sitting in a car, it’s not easy to pass - of all things - a loaded gun directly behind you. It’s easier to pass it to the person diagonal from you due to your range of motion. I agree with Gene on most things except for this.
Keefe admitted that he went to give it to Dre. But Dre wanted no parts of it. So the ticked off person in the car. Snatched it from Keefe and did what he did.
Gene is an idiot and needs to stop speaking on the murder of Tupac Shakur. Gene wasn’t there and didn’t know anyone from the West at the time. Gene needs to go!
Another fkn idiot overthinking things lol. It's easier to pass it diagonally lol smh. Good thing you morons aren't detectives. As if dudes can't reach or move to get a gun smh lol
I think Big Gene knows these cases are tied together..Bad Boy camp is being considered a suspect in this murder..Gene was a Bad Boy body guard at the time of Tupac shooting..
interesting points by gene. i never knew orlando was behind dre with dislocated arm. from what i understand the groupings were pretty tight with the shots..hard to do with dislocated arm and behind a mountain.
Hey Art. Next time you'll interview Napoleon, can you please ask him what he knows about the movie script "Live 2 Tell" that 2Pac was writing. He wanted to cast Napoleon and Kadafi in this movie.
It would be interesting to hear more about Tupac's vision on movies, all his scripts and what he planned to do. Thanks a lot !
Yeah, I'm with this. Maaan, may he rest. I'd also like to hear about that movie where he wrote all the comedians and black actors at the time in the 90s. He had himself, Will Smith, Chris Tucker, etc
@@sigmalaflare Yeah, I think that movie script was called "All The Way". I'd love to hear more about it, that sounded like an amazing project.
Yea nobody cares about a movie that never took place bud
@@ijumpjudyyou pushing 30 bum😂 Pac def smashed ya mama
@@415_Stand-up speak for yourself, we're just here to listen and imagine what could've been about someone who was actually talented in damn near everything they did. Makavelli inspires us all. The scripts were written, the 1st step of ALL MOVIES YOU'VE SEEN 😂👌🏾 all love.
Gene Deal said exactly what I’ve been saying. Orlando did not shoot Pac if he was on the opposite side of the car. It just doesn’t make sense.
Didn’t Big get shot on the opposite side of the car too? I wonder if someone shot from IN the car.
@@ITSjpBitch1Then why would they shoot Suge too and then Suge runs up the curb in distress
if someone shot in the car they would be able to tell @@ITSjpBitch1
Exactly.....is dude a damn sniper. How he reaching over a dude soo big with fresh injuries and is able to hit the target not once but several times. Its a joke ppl can't use their brain.
Casings from EVERY gun are extracted and ejected to the right, which would’ve sent the casings towards the back of the drivers head, not towards the back left passenger. #Facts
Exactly right
But the arm was out the window
So there's no gun that ejects from the left of the slide
@@Limejuice305 according to Gene they been around since the 90s
@@leeroyleeroy6844 exactly!!!! So how was the drivers back seat passenger was gonna get hit with a hot casing? I’ve stood to the right of my homie shooting in the desert playing catch that casing. Glocks, sigs, berettas, smiths, heckler, kimber, bushmaster, browning, colts….. extract and eject to the right
He’s right. Orlando’s arm was supposed to have been dislocated at the time.
Just means it wasn't dislocated after all.
he looked perfectly fine in the MGM footage after the fight
Idiots smh lol
He also had 2 arms that night 😂
@@bb8942 LOL
At this point, it really don't matter who shot the gun. Apparently, they all were killers in that car, capable of doing it. So it was probably the person who had best shot. Which sounds like Big Dre. Plus one of the Outlawz said he saw a big black arm out the window
None were there there never was a white caddie
@@htatesil4192😒🙄
just me personally...my opinion is i dont believe none of them were in the whiteCadillac cause there's absolutely zero proof that shows it
You weren’t there Gene. You do not know !!!!
Gene said they got the call after it happened so if true he knows more than most
Anybody who's shot a gun in compromised positions will tell you it wasnt Orlando.
The bullet pattern was not from someone leaning onver a 300 lb man, while just having his dislocated shoylder put back in place 2 hrs ago...
Nah, when that adrenaline hit, wild things can happen.
@@alejandronopasanada5302yeah adrenaline makes humans do crazy things I've seen it first hand and people seem to forget that Orlando was 6'3 he was a really tall dude and had long arms so reaching over Big Dre shouldn't be that hard for him.
@@b.a.m.mdoublem1196plus he was a known shooter,it wasn’t his first rodeo
@@b.a.m.mdoublem1196 Orlando Anderson was only 6'1" and he was very slim. It would have been impossible for him to reach over a guy who is 6'5" who weighs over 300lbs after just having is shoulder dislocated because he just got stomped down by multiple people and shoot 2pac.
@@gerardrbain1972 nah he could still reach over even if he wouldn't get a clear shot he was still tall asf and plus when adrenaline kicks in you forget that you have an injury.
But Big dre passed away before the proffer agreement. What he saying doesnt make sense
Everyone said it was a big dark arm since then.. What sense is he not making. Keefe put it on his nephew cause he was dead. What better way to do it
@@demondturner2010no one said that. Kadafi said a black arm.
@@Emang_336 same thing though because Orlando is light brown nothing dark
@@saucecain1207 it's at night and they are like 10meters away. You really cannot tell the color of someone's hand while gunshots are hailing
@@Emang_336it’s night sure but you got lights from Vegas out and about so you should be able to tell a dark skin from a brown skin
Orlando Anderson died in 98
Big Dre died in 04
Keffe’s proffer agreement was in 09.
Terrence “Bubble Up” Brown died in 2015
Terrence “Bubble Up” Brown was still alive when Keffe confessed to the murder of Tupac .
And dre was dead, why this guy didn't correct him.
What happened to the Terrence brown guy
@@Nyc0629 Pretty bad of Art to not know such an obvious fact and to correct him. Gene Deal doesn't know what he's talking about. Literally no reason for Keefe to lie and say it was Lane and not Big Dre because Dre was dead too in 2009.
seriously getting tired of gene lying and nobody g checking him for it
@@ijumpjudyword
Big Dre already had bodies when Keefe D handed him the gun. He would have busted no questions ask.
Source on this?
Brian Ladd and Greg Kading both spoke on Dre in the recent interviews they did on this channel and bomb first. He was under investigation for doing a murder with Orlando Anderson. Think they were at party and Dre shot somebody in the head@@pangoolal7512
@@pangoolal7512the one interview with the Compton detective.. big dre went to jail for murder already , but was released because no1 was talking ..
Keefe: Handle yo' business, Big Dre.
Dre: Please, Keefe D. I just came here to play blackjack at The Mirage.
Keefe: That's fair. Who else in the back seat wanna catch a body?
🤣🤣🤣they debated for 5 mins at the red light.
😂😂😂😂😂
it was a long red light
Lmaoooooo I’d rather play blackjack at Ceasars or Aria 😂😂😂😂😂
My guy Big Gene....been rocking wit my guy for years now....
99.99% Dre did it.
Witnesses say they saw a BIG, BLACK arm come OUT the window.
1. Dre is the biggest and blackest in the car.
2. Orlando's dislocated shoulder.
3. And for Orlando to get his arm OUT the window from his position in the car he would have been sitting in Dre's lap.
Not probable. Nothing about Orlando being the shooter makes sense. But Dre does.
So then the shooting was not in retaliation of the Orlando stomping, which makes the $1mil hit make sense and the call from Puff after the hit asking "was that us?"
@@mpho87 when I said, Dre. I meant Deandre. The guy in the cae next to Orlando who was closest and the best position to shoot. Which does make it a retaliation.
@@mpho87 just because Dre did it doesn’t mean it’s not retaliation it is. That’s literally why those 4 got in the car to begin with so no matter who did it the mission is complete that get back already been got
Dre died in 2004. Keefe D proffer agreement was in 08/09.
Thank u i'm tired of this guy lying. Next video he will say it was crooked cops that kill Pac. Art just sit there and let him lie because he know its going to get views. Its getting lame now lol
@@LittleTankbk at least Gene is getting exposed more and more.
And? That's completely irrelevant
@@LittleTankbkit was crooked cops. How much is Reggie paying you? 🤡
@@coolyoutubename16 if you're trying to base your narrative on the fact that Keefe tried to pin the murder on the dead man to protect real shooter who was alive, it doesn't make sense, as the alleged shooter was dead as well.
At this point whoever didn't stop it is just as guilty. 3/4 are already gone
Shush
@@nwameperez9075explain
The one thing that never made since to me is how did they easily bust a U turn and then somehow pulled up next to Tupac and then somehow was able to drive away during a mike tyson fight the biggest boxer in the 90s
Aye bro this shit so mind blowing cause just like u said how u gone make u turn and just so happen to see them shoot and pull off like da timing was all perfect
Exactly....when the area was packed with people.... an nobody saw nothing. Like so what happened to the car 🤔 they took it to space or sutin....
Kading Interviewed Keefe D in 2009 . Big Dre died in 2004 . Terrance Brown died in 2015 . Terrance Brown (the driver ) was the only other person alive when Keefe did his proffer
That makes sense. Dislocated arm? It came from rear driver side. They even said it was a big arm out the window
There’s so much about this out there…. I don’t even know anymore. I don’t believe Keefe’s story. I think he went with what he was told.
Cause you believed in certain version of the story and you can't let go.
Think gaines or perez or amir ,reggie might of did it.but many others involved
Why do you think he was told what to say regarding 2Pac? Kading wasn’t investigating the 2Pac murder. He was investigating the murder of BIGGIE.
@@MaccaveliPL And what version may that be? You must be one of the many Kading accounts I’ve torn to shreds. Your use of “conspiracy theorist” sure sounds like one of em. So tell me… What certain version of the Tupac case did I believe in? Find the comment for me? What UA-cam video was it? I’ve rarely even commented on the Tupac case. I admittedly didn’t even know Keefe resided in Vegas. My comments have gone into the biggie case. And everything I’ve said about that is backed up by an FBI investigation. Take Reggie and Kading’s jock strap out of your mouth for once.
@@krystaedwards3160 I don’t know if they did or not, honestly. I’m sure that’s what this clown in the first comment is alluding to. Even though I’ve never ever said that. 🤷🏾♂️ if someone does a thorough investigation into the case, I’ll have more to comment on. But that hasn’t happened yet, in my opinion.
Keefe was less likely to get dealt with being that Orlando was his little nephew. If he told on dre, dead or alive south side would’ve handled Keefe
I thought the same thing, makes sense if he lied about who the actual shooter was.
This makes absolutely no sense
Where’s the footage of Orlando walking in the hotel hallway going to his room? Where’s the records of Orlando getting checked out at the hospital? Too much shit going on with this case.
Too messy. And then why LAPD try so hard to cover it up for 30 40 yrs.
Gene lying his ass off, he doesn't know shit about pac situation.anything for money.
😂😂😂😂 Orlando wasn't there sep7 the mgm movie is stagged its 2pacs movie 😂😂😂 stop believing the lies
Exactly.
@@htatesil4192 huh??
Crazy this guy act like he knows all about west coast people.
His boss was in their pocket. He was around them a lot at the time. And hood politics the same everywhere. If your boss asks you to do something You do it
@@paulvalenzuela7994 its proven he dont know
Funny how u say that when Wack100 act like he know everybody business. He speak on Chicago, Atlanta, Philly, New York etc then has an attitude when somebody speaks on Cali 🖕🏾
@@Imademyselfaboss true
He knows more then you that's for sure
Orlando didn’t do the shooting because of his shoulder, he probably couldn’t position himself to aim. Kadafi said he saw a big black arm. That’s Dre.
There was no report of a big arm just a black arm
Dude talks with conviction like he was there 😂.
That’s what makes many people believable when there not. Conviction in their voices. Gene is definitely one of them.
He thinks the public is stupid enough to believe him art needs too stop interviewing this clown 🤡
His story changes everyday. First he said he saw a check made out by Puffy, then he says DR had Pac killed. At least RJ Bond stands by what he had/is saying. He still believes that Reggie, Kenner and Suge's ex wife planned the killing of Pac and Suge. He has been saying that since 2007.
Don’t they all sound like that though ? Everyone in the world on Vlad and arts show got some story like they was there lmao or was supposed to be in the car with pac that night
I was in a similar situation and i thought hell nah im not gonna shoot a gun across from my homie face.
A motorcycle driver pulled up on the side of the passenger side i was driving with gun in hand and was gonna shoot dude on the bike but didn't wanna shoot the gun because my homie was in the passenger seat.
With that being said no way Orlando pulled the trigger and if he did Big dre was a pussy for letting that happen to him. I would've been hot/mad like nigga what the fuck! Blamed it on Orlando cause he was the 1st to die.
I think Gene has cracked the case! I believe him.
Shut up
This guy lies in every interview
It's what he does for a living.
Lol but he talks with so much conviction he sounds true. Also Art should have been corrected him on saying Dre was alive during the proffer agreement.
Keefe said they came to Vegas with a van and Cadillac. He said he switched from the van to the Cadillac because the members in the van were scared so he didn't want to ride with them anymore. By stating that he already said that everyone in the Cadillac were shooters and far from scared. So he's lying about Big Dre being scared anyway. What I find strange is that we keep hearing about who was in the Cadillac but never about who exactly was in that van.
It's not hard to believe at all that Dre would shy away from killing the biggest rapper in the world on the Vegas strip the night of a Tyson fight. Who would hesitant is the hothead that got embarrassed and got his azz kicked.
@@kevinlee9929 not if you understand gang code and the rules of the game. Lane and Big Dre were like Red and Meth in the hood and got a lot of bodies and shootings on their names. Dre wasn't scared of anything and specifically if you violated Lane ore sombody else from the crew.
He was with it and if Keefe told you 2 do something back then you had 2 do it!...ain't no way you could go back to Compton being a bit##
@@roykable I understand gang code just fine. Shooting someone in a situation like that. Is not like shooting some nobody on the block. Literally everyone outside of Orlando and Keefe didn't want to do the shooting then.
@@kevinlee9929 if you do then you know these guys didn't shy away from killing cops in Compton...you think they give a f#### about killing Pac after that violation and disrespect!! Bro that story about Dre comes from Keefe's lying mouth but Compton tells a different story. Ain't no scared ninjas with Suge and ain't no scared ninjas with Keefe back then. Besides, wasn't the first time ninjas who active tried killing Pac while he was already famous haha bro ninjas in the hood don't care if you famous!
This is literally the only plausible & possible theory... In my opinion, Gene is on point one hundred percent...🚫🧢💯
When you understand the ballistics in terms of the actual bullets and HOW they hit the car you’ll know immediately that Orlando nor Keefe D were in that Cadillac… did you hear when Big Gene said that it was marksmen shooting???? There was a reason why he said that…. Suge Knight placed Raphael Perez in Vegas.. did you know that Raphael Perez was in the marines??? Put 2 and 2 together
@@lm7913 and you are the UA-cam ballistics expert?
@@MaccaveliPLmaybe???? Hey, does the ‘PL’ in your name stand for Police??? Asking for a friend lol
He doesn't know s*** he just chasing clout
@@lm7913 what if I am the police and I can verify your BS about ballistics?
I thought Gene said on this very channel that the ppl who hit Pac was the same person who hit Big. He said Keefe D nem didn’t do that. I think he was blaming it on the cops.
Dude ain’t consistent
@@ITSjpBitch1Delray called him out recently for this
I think Keefe D told a lie cause Orlando wanted the rep and Dre didn’t. Dre already killed someone for Orlando before. I believe the informant that Orlando couldn’t go back to Compton without a get back.
Who cares about a rep in 2008 when both guys are dead, you're facing life in jail, and your family is facing time in jail too if you lie. It made ZERO SENSE for Keefe to lie. NONE.
Gene deal is the real deal 🤝
Gene stay on a Pac interview 😅😅
😅😅
Isnt it crazy how big dre and orlando favor biggie and pac....wtf
Just like gta San Andreas
🤣😂🤣 love big Gene!!😂🤣😂🤣 the way he talks 😂 he don't be playing 😂
Lol 😂😆 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@amanithurman1274 😁😂
This is the 10th person Gene said killed 2pac smfh
Gene deal is smart, should had been a detective, dude spiting some facts 💯
He got something wrong tho he said when Keefe D confessed Dre was still alive. Big Dre died in 2004 and Keefe D confessed in 2009.
@@b.a.m.mdoublem1196 yes, he got that wrong, but I like the way he analyze there's some facts in it, he is very entertaining.
I always say Gene just be talking. He's entertaining but he just be saying anything
Like the informant said, Big Dre was the shooter. The reason for the lie is Orlando not claiming the shooting after getting beat down by a "rapper" would have made him look suspect to the crip homies.
That’s what I was thinking too and maybe I heard it from a Crip who said he was friends with Dre and Orlando. What also makes me think it was Dre is from how Keefe evaded the question when asked if Dre was the shooter and he just responded with Dre was a ball player and good kid. Reality was that Dre was in the streets at this point.
I was in a similar situation and i thought hell nah im not gonna shoot a gun across from my homie face.
A motorcycle driver pulled up on the side of the passenger side i was driving with gun in hand and was gonna shoot dude on the bike but didn't wanna shoot the gun because my homie was in the passenger seat.
With that being said no way Orlando pulled the trigger and if he did Big dre was a pussy for letting that happen to him. I would've been hot/mad like nigga what the fuck! Blamed it on Orlando cause he was the 1st to die.
You wrong and making things up. Them people were already dead but you just sat up there and said they weren’t. Wrong. You are also saying Orlando was in the bar, in the hotel, and the hospital and not in the car but then saying he had a “dislocated arm” and couldn’t shoot or reach over. Which one is it dog. The longer he talks the more ridiculous it gets.
I always had a feeling it was Big Dre
Gene deal is the best story teller out of all these people who talk about the Tupac biggie murders , dude sounds convincing every topic he talks about, even though he’s been inconsistent sometimes
I think casings are popping over drivers head. Wrong
So who was in the call if it wasnt Orlando. 🤔
Gene should only speak about Biggie and Puff, he just pulling shit outta his ass when it comes to PAC murder
I thought the police killed Pac and before that I thought Death Row killed Pac. Which is it Gene?
I thought Jimmy Iovine killed 2Pac because he was saying that earlier this year
Don't worry, it will be Lil Half Dead in the next interview.
Dirty cops killed Tupac and biggie.. Kevin Gaines, Rafael Perez, Nino Durden, David Mack and Richie McCullough all involved..
ironically kevin gaines was killed by another white cop Frank lygaaa 9 days after biggie died.. you do the match.
Why don't you ask Suge about that? He a witness and said it was police so don't put that on Gene like he made it up out of nothing
@SRMCBS Suge Knight never said kadafi big dre or Jimmy Iovine killed 2Pac that's all Gene.
Dre wasnt alive when he confessed!!!!!!!!
There wasnt any specialized “uniform way” to the bullet patterns. So is Gene saying Dre was a marksman? Or is he saying it wasn’t Gang Related if Dre pulled the trigger instead of Orlando?
Sometimes I think Gene just likes hearing himself talk…
He's old and clout chasn dad days
All the bullets went right down the center of the car. If any normal person fired a handgun that fast the bullets would be going high and low. It takes a lot of practice to be able to fire that many shots rapidly and keep them in the same area.
@@micahwest2793 no it doesn’t you idiot lol, there was nothing special about that shooting. It was just another drive by except the victims were famous. But your defiantly stupid as hell.
@@micahwest2793Right! Especially while the car was moving
@@micahwest2793 not really, there were holes in both the passenger side rear and front doors, as well as at least one in the passenger side of the windshield. It doesn’t take some specialized training to shoot a gun in that manner. Aim and shoot. You’re talking a distance of less than five feet, up close and personal. Those bullets didn’t have to fly very far to hit the target. Not to mention, if it Orlando was the triggerman, he could have all but braced himself on the window seal or on Dre for better accuracy and a steady hand. Let’s not forget, it wasn’t these guys first rodeo, they were being investigated in connection with multiple other murders at that time. This “rumor” of a miraculous shooting pattern is false. Gene Deal seems to be behind in the investigation. That may be why he ended up a bodyguard telling popular stories on Vlad or Art instead of becoming a law enforcement officer or detective…..
Its safe to say Big Dre knew 2Pacs opinion on heavier people, especially Biggie! So that might even be more personal then it seemed))
Lmfao
😂😂
You wild’n😂
Dre did it, Orlando did it, really doesn't matter at this point, us the fans wanna see puffy sweet ass get locked up for all the shyt he's done to people , and getting away with being a booty bandit for this long
I personally don't see that happening his billions will protect him when you have money you basically become untouchable.
@@b.a.m.mdoublem1196 I beg the differ
Bernie madoff
Epstien
Weinstien
Cosby
Kelly
Tyson
Etc etc
@@alsender1262 just saying though but I could be wrong I'll just wait and see how this plays out.
Orlando just sprayed bullets at the car. You don’t need to be in the army for that. Orlando got jumped and it was his business to handle.
Use your brain he didn’t kill Tupac… he wasn’t even in the car at the time.. dirty cops killed Tupac and biggie.
Orlando dont got be the shooter as long it was someone out the car is a mission completed
Whether it was dre or orlando , the shooter is dead. Orlando gonna get the blame off rip because he got his ass beat & shoulder dislocated tht night
@@BinWylin for him it was a credit more than a blame.
I guess you didn't listen to the time line portion
Patron Brothers and Donald Smith were in the white Cadillac that night. Keefee D, Big Dre, and Orlando had nothing to do with it.
I agree it's common sense big Dre wouldn't even be in the car if he's known for having cold feet, especially when a shot caller is giving you the gun
Dre was dead when keef d spilled the beans, he could of easily said Dre. Yall love conspiracy stories..
@@Nyc0629 dre didn't bitch out gtfo
@@Nyc0629the witnesses literally said a big dark arm came out the window and started shooting. Orlando was neither. Greg Kading had Keefe D on drug charges that would put him in prison for life and let him walk free if he told him Orlando shot Tupac. Why not just put him away on the drug charges that he got from selling to an informant???
@@Nyc0629 what happened to the Lil Half Dead theory, lol. I miss those days.
@@Nyc0629how do you know that is the only time Keefe spoke? Keefe has said the Feds approached him back in 1999 what if he spoke then?
Much love to Gene; but he’s story about Sean combs has changed. He said he saw the check then he’s saying it was an inside job and that keefe didn’t do it but Dre did? Without keefe? Anderson didn’t had a dislocated shoulder. He wouldn’t be able to move his arm and he would have to hold his arm against his chest and he was moving his arm fine in the video after the fight. Last Glock bullet casing eject to the right, toward the driver not Dre
Yes I saw a check can you or I prove where the check came from I’ll wait for you response ok
@@GeneDealShowyou ain’t see a dam thing
@@LanceG007 thought so nigga that why I can say I wasn’t the only on who saw it. F#€k I look like trying to prove something to you Gumps that can’t see the Forest cause of the trees
@@GeneDealShowstop capping g dawg we know you shot pac. That’s how you know so much!!!!!!
Nobody ever said Keefe did it. Where you get that from
im not understanding what he means by timeline. is he indirectly trying to say Orlando wasn't in the car when Dre shot pac?
You wasn’t there
I was getting my gun permit and few of my casings got me on the arm and they are hot with eye and ear protection. No nicca going to let you lean across them and let off 9 or 10 rounds. Unless you a character in the movie full metal jacket.
Gene talkin' bullshit as always, lol.
Lol
😂😂😂
Gene has switched his story 27 times but man he's enjoyable to watch so I'll be back for lie 28.
He said last week listen to with Suge say you solve one you solve both one week with gene it's the crips then it's rampart cops the next week
He literally makes up stuff. The word 'speculation' would be too kind.
dont forget all the sheep comments on Genes vids tho talking about "GeNe NeVeR ChAnGes HiS sToRy"
Hater
@@kevharris1451 how am I hating?? I literally said I'll continue watching because he's entertaining apparently you're too stupid to understand what that means. Go look at Gene's interviews and tell me he doesn't change his stories, cause he definitely does.
Regardless gene makes some good points
Wrong!
Orlando died in 98
Big Dre died 04
Keffe’s proffer agreement was in 09.
Terrence “Bubble Up” Brown (the driver) died in 2015.
Bubble Up was still alive when Keffe confessed.
Nice job! You did your homework. I don't like people just jumping to conspiracy theories and not doing their homework and not using logic.
I was in a similar situation and i thought hell nah im not gonna shoot a gun across from my homie face.
A motorcycle driver pulled up on the side of the passenger side i was driving with gun in hand and was gonna shoot dude on the bike but didn't wanna shoot the gun because my homie was in the passenger seat.
With that being said no way Orlando pulled the trigger and if he did Big dre was a pussy for letting that happen to him. I would've been hot/mad like nigga what the fuck! Blamed it on Orlando cause he was the 1st to die.
Do you know everything about this case and when Keefe has been spoken to? Keefe has said himself that he was approached by the Feds in 1999 about the incident so it is possible he blamed Orlando when Dre was alive.
@@SRMCBSHe blamed Suge then. And told the truth during the Proffer.
@@OnlyUknow2copy and paste head ass…damn
Keefe: Handle it, Dre
Dre: Omg you guys! Nooooo!
Keefe: I respect that. No means no.
this made me laugh out loud
They should make an episode where everyone he interviewed from both sides come together to do 1 big interview
Was big Dre right handed or left handed ? Reason being if he’s left handed it would have been easy for him and if he’s right handed it would’ve even hard for him to shoot accurately into the BMW plus a 370 pound man that’s 6’5” would of had a hard time turning to face the car and shoot accurately from the back seat of the car as for Orlando having a dislocated shoulder and shooting over Big Dre with all them shells falling on him is crazy cause shooting from the back seat across from some one that’s 6’5” 370 pounds would definitely need u to use ur free arm to prop u up on either the front head rest or the back seat this is deep I will be glad when all this comes together
Can someone please tell Gene that Freaky Dre died in 2004 and also tell him that not all of the shell casings were recovered at the scene meaning a few did fly back in the car in Dre's face 🤷🏾♂️. Also ask Gene why he believes Keefe when he says Orlando's shoulder was dislocated, so Keefe lied about going to 662 to get a fair fade? Ask Gene if Dre twisted his 6'5 360lb body around to fire those shots at the Sebring and at Buntry's Toyota Supra which was behind the Cadillac. Also inform him that it wouldn't be the first time that a person reached pass a bigger person to fire a gun,especially in a Cadillac. Art is just gonna let this dude babble
Exactly I like gene but he be wrong on some shit
That's fake news and they said shell's were in the bmw😂😂😂 so they magically bounced off the ground into the bmw
@htatesil4192 Can you send me the link to whatever source said shell casings where found in the BMW?
@@AlfaQgoodeall the witnesses said a big dark arm came out the window Orlando was neither. The Las Vegas police records showed Orlando went to Sunrise Hospital that's why they never considered him a suspect.
Yeah Orlando ain’t reach over Dre big axx to shoot that shit is stupid Dre was well known for dumping all of a sudden he got cold feet ? Cmon Keefe pass the fye to him I can’t see someone letting a nikka reach over them and buss a loud a gun that many times; plus you got eye witnesses saying it was a large dark arm that was hanging out the window. Dre was still living when keefe made these statements and got family out here Keefe wasn’t gonna give him up
He need to stick with biggie stories cause speculation like this is gonna hurt his credibility puff can easily say he be talking out his ass
Eveb his BIG stories are shit tho, lol.
I always thought that story that Dre did it didn't make no damn sense.
Why are you asking this dude about something he has no knowledge of? He wasn’t there and wasn’t close to the people involved.
Gene you’re wrong Dre was dead when Keefe confessed to Greg kading. No reason at all for him to lie about the shooter unless it’s himself or Terrance brown, the supposed driver
yea but that was before the kading thing. Keffe originaly said this during an interview. dont try n check gene..... check yourself
@@DennisCast7daysI don’t get what you’re trying to say. when did keefe confess in an interview before confessing to Greg?
@@johnnyboy7256 I believe Keefe D was the shooter.
Exactly, he could of just said Dre
The reason he said it was orlando was because he didn’t want to mess up orlandos reputation in the streets. He wanted his nephews legacy to live on and forever be known as a legend who got his get back on the biggest rapper in the world. In other words he didn’t want his nephew to look like a bitch
Ppl keep saying Orlando had a dislocated arm after the altercation at the mgm grand. I know he went to sunrise hospital after the beating but he didn’t look hurt when security were questioning him at the mgm grand. I will say that they we’re kicking him like he was a ⚽️ tho. 🤣
He didn't have a dislocated shoulder or his ass would have been showing alot more pain afterward while being questioned
@@beyondbeleef1013even Keefe D admitted he had his arm put in a sling. Orlando's family said years ago his shoulder was hurt in the attack. Then a couple years ago RJ Bond got the Las Vegas police records and it showed Orlando went to Sunrise Hospital. That's why Vegas never considered him a suspect. There's no way he went to the hospital and got back in time to catch Tupac in traffic.
There are records of him going to the hospital. Those records were also used when he sued Tupac’s estate because of his injury. Also, he was known to always have issues with his shoulder. He kept an arm sling with him.
@@denea4418No there aren't
@@micahwest2793this shit don't add up cause BG Knoccout said he saw Orlando the next day after the shooting he said he was absolutely fine no dislocated shoulder no sling no nothing.
Gene seems to be the dude that's genuine, but like 90 percent genuine, if this dude was 100 he would say none of them did the shooting, it wasn't Orlando or Keefe, that night was a plotted hit and IMO was done by Kevin Gaines, or Mack and Perez
All of a sudden Gene knows everything
Give Gene credit. He been saying it wasn't orlando because as Gene was saying "dude said he saw a Big Black Arm" dre arm fits that description.
Also various reports I've read about this has said orlando didn't do it.
Reggie and kenner set that up
To inject some credence to what Gene is saying, Keefe D did say he left another vehicle (I think a van) because those guys were about the bizness and hopped into the white caddy/car. suggesting that everyone in the car was cool with the mission. Hmmmm...
The people in the van were supposedly were some guys that Zip knew or were with .
Being cool with it doesn't mean you would want to be the 1 to actually do it. Not surprising at all that Dre would get cold feet when the actual moment was at hand. Especially when Keefe was the 1 who originally was going to shoot
@@SuperbNProsper correct but still not down with the plan
I like how gene knows about everything going down on the west coast back in the day
It doesn't make sense to shoot across someone. It's always been obvious that they put it on the dead guy
Dre was dead also at the time.
I have never heard Vegas PD say Orlando didn’t shoot Pac. Corey made up the whole he was at the bar bs, then recanted years later and told the real truth….
Orlando was at home
Mgm movie pre recorded nobody is stupid pac and them wore the same clothes it was a stagged fight pre recorded
Can you show sth that proves he recanted it? I still think he bullshitted, but nice to see he confirmed he lied.
@@MaccaveliPL he admitted as much on the Who Killed Tupac series. I believe he is another one who got helmed up on criminal activity and spilled the beans to protect himself. The unsolved series breaks much of it down…….
@@htatesil4192Orlando's home is back in Compton and the shooting took place 3 hours later how did he get back from Las Vegas to Compton that fast????
When you're on your fifth "dam thats crazy" Gene is like the dude who just keeps talking and doesn't get the hint to stfu
And when you’re someone who continues to watch Gene and your to stupid not to click the buttons to hear him it makes it seems that you was on the Ree-Ree bus
lmao
What is he talking about? Orlando in a Cadillac deville? Dre was big but orlando was thin. He could’ve stuck his hand out the car leaning over dre and not one shell would hit either of them they would fall into the street. Why is gene out here acting like he never shot a gun before? The shells fly out the right side of the gun that’s the opposite direction from where dre was sitting. Even without sticking his arm out the window. At close range there’s nothing impressive about the grouping of the rounds. People think because someone was in law enforcement they’re versed on guns. Learn about guns and watch cop shows even homicide detectives don’t shoot their guns that often. This is why Reggie is always laughing while he destroys gene’s theories.
Keefe D only said ORLANDO because it's easier to tell on your own family vs telling on somebody else family he rather deals with Orlando's mother than Big Dre family
Hey art can you interview reggie wright jr. And bring up how he got fired the day before pac got shot in vegas ask him why he got fired and where he was the night pac got shot also ask where his father was at that exact same time PLEASE NOBODY IS BOLD ENOUGH TO ASK
He’s not gonna ask that
Gene has a point!! 90s gangbangin was hard.
Big Dre died in 2004 & Keefe told in 09… wth is he talking about 🤦🏿♂️
I ALWAYS wondered HOW Orlando got from the hotel to the car so fast and FIND Tupac that fast!
They were all set up starting with Orlando was placed there Reggie and his dad Craig kaden and others were all right there by fight in videos on mgm
Live long uncle Gene Deal. The best story teller. Love from Ireland
Republic of Ireland or northern Ireland
@@Dan-eq6po Republic
@@nicolett195 I'm from Northern Ireland
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Orlando did that for his get back when are people are going to realize 😂
So a 6’5 340 360 lbs man gon reach over his body and pop a car sitting closest to him underneath the door handle.
Cmon son. The bullet trajectory proves it was the right hand backseat. Dre couldn’t shoot that shot into the windshield.
The investigation photos show shells all over the ground. He the only person who can get his arm out the window far enough so the shells wouldn’t be in the white caddy. The investigation photos show the street covered in shells
I wonder if Dre was a South paw? that would make it easier for him to let off more accurately.
Gene wasn’t there. He doesn’t know anymore than me or you.
Gene be saying anything to keep the interview going smh
Somebody please tell Gene Deal that Big Dre was dead when Keefe originally told his story to Greg Kading. Tired of him spreading misinformation
You ain't never lied.
@@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthewsit was Gene trying to reach across the fat ass to shoot
@charlie4339 Gene is trying his hand at Crime Scene investigation now. He has gone from law enforcement, criminal defense attorney, correctional officer Neveda state prison, personal chef, bodyguard, and now detective. I wish he make up his mind.
He's chasn a check
People continue to Validate Greg Kading Story not realizing it is What Keefe Deet told him. Greg Kading Saying Keefe Dee is an unreliable witness makes his investigation unreliable!
Shout 2 Gene Deal
I rock with gene i believe what he says about BIGS murder but the guy knows absolutely nothing about pacs murder he knows as much as you and i 😂
😂
They keep paying him for his opinion next he gonna tell yall who killed JFK smh
Delray said basically the same thing
*Gene is wrong. The gun shell ejection port is on the right side of the gun, so the shells would fly to the right side and not hit big dre in the face.*
Also orlando leans over and fired the gun from outside the window.
Maybe they both shot 2pac and took turns on the the gun.
The way Keefe d mentions Orlando and big dre names, it really does seam like Orlando did it. Nothing suspicious when he says big dre or orlandos name.
Gene want to be apart of PAC story so bad 🤦🏾♂️
It's impossible Orlando had an injured shoulder from the beating he took at the hotel. He most certainly was not the shooter. But Big Dre's hand is not what the eye witness Yaki Fula saw. He didn't say a big black arm. He said it was a brown arm. That could have been one and only rogue LAPD cop, Raphael Perez. That was a well trained shooter. Big Dre was there but wasn't the shooter. Pac was assassinated by cops. Bounty hunters. Working with Kefee Dee. That's why he didn't claim the $1M.The rogue LAPD cops took it. Kefee Dee lied.
Gene, Big Dre had passed away around 2003. Keefe’s confession was years after this. He probably handed the gun to Dre because Dre is the easiest person to hand it to. Think if you’re sitting in a car, it’s not easy to pass - of all things - a loaded gun directly behind you. It’s easier to pass it to the person diagonal from you due to your range of motion. I agree with Gene on most things except for this.
Damn, first bit of logic actually used on this whole case lol
Keefe admitted that he went to give it to Dre. But Dre wanted no parts of it. So the ticked off person in the car. Snatched it from Keefe and did what he did.
Gene is an idiot and needs to stop speaking on the murder of Tupac Shakur. Gene wasn’t there and didn’t know anyone from the West at the time. Gene needs to go!
Another fkn idiot overthinking things lol. It's easier to pass it diagonally lol smh. Good thing you morons aren't detectives. As if dudes can't reach or move to get a gun smh lol
@@VeryVegas1 😂😂
Bad boy camp talking about the Tupac case because the biggie case gets no attention LOL
Gene is trying his hardest to insert himself into this case and everything that comes outta his mouth is wrongm
I think Big Gene knows these cases are tied together..Bad Boy camp is being considered a suspect in this murder..Gene was a Bad Boy body guard at the time of Tupac shooting..
Gene knows the version of the story he promoted has been disproved so he's just sitting out there and talking BS to get views.
Dre died before keffe confessed in 08. Brown died in 2015/16
interesting points by gene. i never knew orlando was behind dre with dislocated arm. from what i understand the groupings were pretty tight with the shots..hard to do with dislocated arm and behind a mountain.
Big dre was not still alive , Gene needs to do research before he tells his lies