Space Elevators - Lore and Theory

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  • @BattleUnit3
    @BattleUnit3 5 років тому +124

    For me Space elevators have always been the thing that states." Yes we are spacefaring and we have the industry to back it up."

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 3 роки тому +5

      It gets even better if you have orbital rings, an actively supported ring megastructure around a planet just barely above the atmosphere that could potentially connect to hundreds or thousands of shorter easier to build space elevators, they can be built large enough to have entire industries, shipyards, and ship launching magnetic Accelerator rails around the outer edge.
      The crazy part is that it might be more practical to build than a normal space elevator since you just need power to drive the active support system instead of exotic super materials to make a tether.
      A great video on the topic is on the "Science and futurism with Isaac Arthur" UA-cam channel, I'd love to see the UNSC building these as part of their reconstruction and re-colonization efforts (or you know, have us build them in real life once our space programs can handle building the smallest practical versions to start)

  • @nickwilliamson5663
    @nickwilliamson5663 5 років тому +177

    Space Elevators have always been one of my favourite parts of the Halo. They just represent the UNSC aesthetic so well and set the cities and skylines aside from other sci-fi settings.

    • @AKlover
      @AKlover 5 років тому +3

      Can produce a cable strong enough and light enough to anchor a space station but cannot produce armor that can survive more than 1 plasma hit or ballistic weaponry that does not rely on gas diversion......................... Makes a lot of sense.

    • @mightbedan3590
      @mightbedan3590 5 років тому +1

      aWraithsSoul I like that analogy

    • @tristanbackup2536
      @tristanbackup2536 5 років тому +6

      @@AKlover
      No material can survive 5000 degrees celsius.

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 5 років тому +1

      @@AKlover its usually easier to destroy than to protect

    • @Counterstream
      @Counterstream 4 роки тому +3

      But space elevators don’t originate from Halo... they’ve been all over science fiction for decades 🤔

  • @AleksandrPodyachev
    @AleksandrPodyachev 5 років тому +49

    the one big obstacle to them being real is making a cable that is strong and light enough to handle the stresses put on them. on the moon, we can start making one today with a Kevlar rope, for earth, the only possible material for the cable is nanotubes

    • @sebwilkins
      @sebwilkins 5 років тому +6

      Carbon nanotubes lack the tensile strength for earth based constructs. They have to also bear the weight of their own cable and as such fall short when you do the maths. However, they can work using carbon nanotubes on planets with a lower gravitational pull, such as Mars and the jovian system.

    • @AleksandrPodyachev
      @AleksandrPodyachev 5 років тому +1

      @@sebwilkins where have you heard that, I heard that only a continuous carbon nanotube cable would work, it just needs to be a continuous nanotube running the entire length of the cable instead of a lot of nanotubes woven together, but making the cable atomically perfect for longer than 100 KM is the hard part

    • @bluebonic3497
      @bluebonic3497 5 років тому +5

      @@AleksandrPodyachev People have been saying that Carbon nanotubes MIGHT work for several years but earlier in 2019, an experiment indicated that they did not have sufficient tensile strength.
      www.cmu.edu/nanotechnology-forum/Forum_3/Talk/SeungHoonNahm.pdf

    • @KellyStarks
      @KellyStarks 5 років тому +3

      Individual Nano tube are very strong, but cables made out of them turned out to have the tensile strength of cotton thread.
      ;)
      Also they turned out to have very limited carry capacity ( how much you can lift/lower per year ), and the cost per pound turned out very high compared to even conventional rockets.

    • @mechredd
      @mechredd 4 роки тому +3

      Graphene is a material to look at. It's tensile strength is about 100 times that of steel of the same thickness. A square meter sheet of graphene thats 1 molecule thick, will hold about 4kg while weighing 0.77mg. It has the strongest tensile strength of any known material at 19 million psi, and a stiffness of up to 150 million psi.
      The problem is making it. We've been making it by accident in extremely low quantities for well over a century in the graphite industry. We need to mass produce it in large sheets, and that's been expensive and problematic thus far.

  • @jimmyseaver3647
    @jimmyseaver3647 5 років тому +74

    Funnily enough, the newest _Ace Combat_ game is centered around a space elevator. Strangely, you don't get to blow it to pieces in spite of the trouble it triggered.

    • @Ikcatcher
      @Ikcatcher 5 років тому +4

      Jimmy Seaver Ace of culture

    • @anzio3827
      @anzio3827 5 років тому +5

      Trouble it *Triggered* Trigger is Triggered. Classic

    • @FrostyWheats
      @FrostyWheats 5 років тому +4

      Trigger was the closest

    • @jpardoa94
      @jpardoa94 5 років тому +3

      Solitary for all of you

  • @cleanserofnoobs4162
    @cleanserofnoobs4162 5 років тому +28

    Well, that was fast. Awesome video! Thanks for including my clips!
    7:45 Also, apologies for the text on the top right. I just wanted to clarify what angle was what the player is supposed to see.

  • @kanoslayer2735
    @kanoslayer2735 5 років тому +25

    Love that you are covering this, the science behind this is so intriguing

  • @themeatpopsicle
    @themeatpopsicle 5 років тому +16

    One of the neatest deployments of a space elevator in Neal Stephenson's "Seveneves". The Earth-based counterweight could actually be moved, and was large enough that it was a city in itself.

  • @Tottleminerftw
    @Tottleminerftw 5 років тому +38

    Me after playing Halo 3 odst and watching Forward Unto Dawn: "How do these work"

  • @bmxdude1337
    @bmxdude1337 5 років тому +4

    Space elevators always wowed me in Halo

    • @ebonkinght
      @ebonkinght 5 років тому +3

      I know right when I first played halo 2 and I saw the new Mombasa one I couldn’t stop staring at it and I was like what is that tower thing in the background will we get to go inside it

    • @bmxdude1337
      @bmxdude1337 5 років тому

      Pretty much

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 5 років тому +11

    What was the most powerful destructive weapons excluding the Halos did the Forerunners have that produced a explosive force or some form of destructive weapons that were produced for the military like ODPS were?

    • @JHS270694
      @JHS270694 5 років тому +4

      Mantles Approach. Doesn't look big or menacing in game, but by lore it's the most heavily armed ship In the Forerunner Navy. Ur-Didacts personal flagship. Well.. Was anyways. Until one small green boi used plot armour to blow it up with a puny nuke.

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 5 років тому +1

      @@JHS270694
      I think the ship is still around it just slipspace before the nuke blew up.

    • @PoisoningShadow671
      @PoisoningShadow671 5 років тому +2

      I dunno about the forerunners, but the UNSC did have a NOVA bomb, theres was an occasion where one got set off between a planet and moon, the planet became unihabitable and the moon got shattered,

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 5 років тому +2

      @Shadow Of Sundered Star
      I heard the Forerunners resulted in destroying star systems trying to stop the flood.
      Did they use a weapon of some kind or did they use some slipspace black hole like in Halo Reach?

    • @sosogo4real
      @sosogo4real 5 років тому

      @@thorshammer7883 they somehow used their fleets to destabilise stars. Most speculation has them using slipspace to do so.

  • @fidamdsaini8452
    @fidamdsaini8452 5 років тому +7

    Gundam 00 3 space elevators all controlled by different human factions the Union of Free Solar Energy and Free Nations(simply Union), Advanced European Union & the Human Reform League.

    • @LtCWest
      @LtCWest 5 років тому +1

      Mmh, good show ^^

  • @estarossa1847
    @estarossa1847 5 років тому +4

    Keep up the amazing work mate

  • @madness0169
    @madness0169 5 років тому +6

    In my opinion, the Space Elevator in New Mombasa instantly collapsed after the departure of The Prophet of Regret's CAS-Class Assault Carrier. As well as a majority of New Mombasa crumbling and collapsing within the radius of the shockwave formed from the Assault Carrier.
    The aftermath of the jump left most of New Mombasa in ruins along with Space Elevator parts along the far ranges of Old Mombasa and beyond the outskirts of the Mega-City.
    EDIT: And a little Fun Fact about the Space Elevator of Pinnacle Station in *Halo 5: Guardians.*
    The Space Elevator has four outer elevator tethers (meant for mainly Meridian visits and ferrying civilians on and off world) and a single main elevator tether (meant for carrying heavy cargo and large amounts of civilization on and off world) and in which it also has a stronger super structure than the New Mombasa Space Elevator.

    • @tavianarmstrong974
      @tavianarmstrong974 5 років тому +2

      certainy didnt seem like the city was in ruins after the jump

    • @madness0169
      @madness0169 5 років тому

      @@tavianarmstrong974 im just stating my own opinion.

    • @LtCWest
      @LtCWest 5 років тому +3

      Well, Halo:ODST is set just after the ship left and the city is mostly intact. Also, die SE didnt "collapse" per se as it was severed near the bottom. The structural elements still attached to the tether began to fall off though, as 00 described in the video.

    • @tristanbackup2536
      @tristanbackup2536 5 років тому

      It didn't. Play Halo 3: ODST.

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher 5 років тому +6

    Ace Combat 7 also had a space elevator, and the game takes place in 2019 no lees.
    Thinking about it, it would honestly be cool to see you talk about the many wacky tech that exists in Ace Combat

    • @WolfeSaber
      @WolfeSaber 5 років тому

      We actually do not know the time of the game.

    • @Ikcatcher
      @Ikcatcher 5 років тому +3

      Dustyn Miller It’s literally in game mate, it takes place in 2019 Strangereal time

    • @anzio3827
      @anzio3827 5 років тому +3

      @@WolfeSaber The dates of when events happen are listed before the missions even begin mate.

    • @FrostyWheats
      @FrostyWheats 5 років тому +1

      You also have to remember strangereal 2019 or tech in general is vastly ahead of real life 2019

    • @jpardoa94
      @jpardoa94 5 років тому +1

      Operation Hush - November 1, 2019

  • @earnestbrown6524
    @earnestbrown6524 5 років тому +6

    Great video. Anyone wanting to know more in depth info about elevators and shyhooks should check out Isaac Arthur's UA-cam channel. He has done videos on most any Mega Structure you can think of. His earlier work is a little hard to follow do to a speech impediment. He has improved greatly and his work is great.

  • @tua2283
    @tua2283 4 роки тому +2

    Due to forward unto dawn, I’m more afraid of getting hit by bodies than getting killed by the space elevator itself

  • @theAverageJoe25
    @theAverageJoe25 4 роки тому +3

    So apparently Jun escaped Reach by climbing a space elevator

  • @dtgs4502
    @dtgs4502 5 років тому +5

    If only there was at least one orbital ring in halo. They probably thought it would confuse people though.

    • @coreymicallef365
      @coreymicallef365 5 років тому +2

      One orbital ring would've probably been worth 100+ space elevators.

    • @icyknightmare4592
      @icyknightmare4592 5 років тому +2

      There is. The gas giant Threshold has an orbital ring, from which the gas mine in Halo 2 hangs down into the atmosphere. Waypoint calls it a "band orbital". There's some background shots of it during this gameplay ua-cam.com/video/9wBbnBMIAho/v-deo.html

  • @totallyahuman.2955
    @totallyahuman.2955 5 років тому +6

    Humans, that's how.

  • @RedLeaderIV
    @RedLeaderIV 3 роки тому

    The space elevator scene from Forward Unto Dawn is spectacular

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 5 років тому +3

    How powerful and durable would a Forerunner main battle tank and super heavy tank be like when compared to other Sci Fi tanks like the Baneblade from Warhammer 40k or Seige tank from Starcraft?

    • @JHS270694
      @JHS270694 5 років тому +1

      It'd vaporise both. WiH Necrons with C'tan are the only guys who can fight toe to toe with the Forerunners to put things in perspective.

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 5 років тому +3

      @@JHS270694
      I seen some nice Forerunner tank concept art that looked awesome.

  • @SyntheticHuman01
    @SyntheticHuman01 5 років тому +2

    I can only imagine the amount of space junk that can strike it.

  • @theAverageJoe25
    @theAverageJoe25 4 роки тому

    (Attack horn blows)
    Marine: Cadets to the tether NOW!, this is NOT a drill.

  • @stijnVDA1994
    @stijnVDA1994 5 років тому +19

    I think irl humanity wil have them sooner rather then later, partly giving more time to improve hardyness but also subjecting it to terrorism by groups like isis or other location based organisations looking for terror.

    • @palladin1337
      @palladin1337 5 років тому +5

      Yeah, as awesome as this concept is, and in spite of what it would do in regards to space travel for us, we just don't have a material that can withstand these sorts of forces just yet. This is honestly something I put in the same category as Halo's gravity plating; interesting in theory, possibly achievable, but still out of our current reach.

    • @palladin1337
      @palladin1337 5 років тому +4

      @OriginalTharios Like I said; outside of our current reach, but theoretically achievable with enough progress. I can't tell you how much I hope said breakthroughs happen in my lifetime, because it would be beyond amazing.

    • @nuclearjanitors
      @nuclearjanitors 5 років тому +1

      Isis? Oh, you must mean Israel.

    • @VainerCactus0
      @VainerCactus0 5 років тому +3

      Why use Space Elevators?
      Take a look at this channel, specifically some of the videos in this playlist.
      ua-cam.com/play/PLIIOUpOge0LsGJI_vni4xvfBQTuryTwlU.html
      Some serious discussion on how to get into space better than we do currently. Everything from the next few years, to some time in the next few hundred years.

  • @artemisfleming9981
    @artemisfleming9981 4 роки тому +1

    so, basically it's a big long hollow pole with helium at the top with strong rope tied to a box in the middle.

  • @lilsammich8252
    @lilsammich8252 5 років тому +1

    How do they compensate for atmosphere conditions like wind?

  • @lillyalightbornexo1036
    @lillyalightbornexo1036 5 років тому +2

    No views , four likes, 12 comments. UA-cam is drunk. Jokes aside. I have always been fascinating; nice to see a in-depth look at them.

  • @DMITRITHEGREAT117
    @DMITRITHEGREAT117 4 роки тому

    Fascinating, great video!

  • @jw6043
    @jw6043 5 років тому

    Awesome video! Love the content

  • @johnharrison7997
    @johnharrison7997 5 років тому

    Brilliant mate. Loved this one. 👍😁

  • @fieldadmiralspartanryseb-8293
    @fieldadmiralspartanryseb-8293 5 років тому +1

    Thanks Patreons!

  • @sethdavidhanson6589
    @sethdavidhanson6589 2 роки тому

    Please do correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't believe orbital elevators need to be twice the length of the distance between Earth's surface and geostationary orbit altitude. The space between geostability and the upper end of the elevator can be reduced by increasing the mass of the counterweight.

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 5 років тому +4

    If SCP-2399 was in the Halo universe would it probably be more powerful then even Forerunner ships like Mantle's Approach or Fortress class Dreadnoughts since it's FTL and communication network is pretty good and it survived a near light speed collision with Jupiter's moon Io and it has planet busting weapons that would completely obliterate Earth if it arrived.

    • @navb0tactual
      @navb0tactual 5 років тому

      Yo I was thinking about that, that's my favourite space SCP
      Having the two Universes collide would be scary and amazing, I wonder what new lore would come out?

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 5 років тому

      @@navb0tactual
      I wonder if the Earth could even survive it's arrival I'm not sure 300 Forerunner enhanced ODPs can take down such a powerful weapon.

    • @navb0tactual
      @navb0tactual 5 років тому

      @@thorshammer7883 Yeah that entire SCP Outlives the forerunners and maybe even the precursors... If anything this is the Ancient evil that awakes.
      Maybe a barrage of every weapon from the Halo universe could destroy it... otherwise a Nova Bomb should do the trick... But we would be wiped out in the meantime with unknown results.

    • @MrGreat-cd9im
      @MrGreat-cd9im 5 років тому

      @@navb0tactual you would need a fleet of fortress class forerunner ships, even though they're rare maybe Assault class super carriers or just Long night of solist

    • @navb0tactual
      @navb0tactual 5 років тому

      @@MrGreat-cd9im Long Night of Solace would become not living in like three nano seconds, our best bet is ancient Humanity, Forerunner, and Precursor tech just going ham

  • @jacksonwoods4958
    @jacksonwoods4958 5 років тому +1

    Can you do a in depth about all the ships in the unsc fleet. Thanks

  • @smithonme1888
    @smithonme1888 3 роки тому

    This raises a few questions.
    For instance, if all space elevators on earth are at its equator, and one of them was destroyed at the top, since it would wrap itself all they way around the planet, twice, wouldn't that mean it would have destroyed all the other space elevators as it came down, since it would fall along the equator?

  • @Nevirate
    @Nevirate 5 років тому

    What’s the music that plays at 1:30?

  • @jparppimenta1020
    @jparppimenta1020 Рік тому

    only in the future we can build with 4D printer use liquid diamond maybe it works out....thank you for feedback and support

  • @Elessar011
    @Elessar011 4 роки тому

    Top shelf!

  • @ToxicCandy116
    @ToxicCandy116 5 років тому +1

    I honestly gave you a like just for using the moons real name, Luna.
    (and for the rest of the video)

  • @camerongooch9606
    @camerongooch9606 5 років тому +2

    I was born to early to explore the earth and too late to explore the stars.

  • @rudySTi
    @rudySTi 5 років тому

    A great video!

  • @RicardoPerez-rz8pu
    @RicardoPerez-rz8pu 4 роки тому

    Isn't the Mombasa space elevator the oldest one in halo ?.

  • @unscsniperjun6417
    @unscsniperjun6417 5 років тому

    Awsome video my man but also #BringBackPyrrha (not specifically as how she was before but her in some way

  • @j.p.m.designs
    @j.p.m.designs 5 років тому

    I love your vídeos!!!

  • @Xusmit
    @Xusmit 5 років тому

    Today I learned

  • @berges104
    @berges104 5 років тому +2

    Wish we could build them now. Too many issues in the world so not a priority and big target for terrorists.

  • @Frogn_
    @Frogn_ 5 років тому

    Actually i don´t think the lift has to be twice the height of the orbit, if the counter weight is havy enought :) It just has to be a bit heigher than the stable orbit

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 5 років тому +1

      thats not how that works, a tether has to be in geosync orbit, otherwise the whole cable starting moving relative to earth and eventually smash into the surface

    • @Frogn_
      @Frogn_ 5 років тому

      @@mxn1948 i know, but i don't think it must twice the length. If the upper station is above the geosynchronous orbit and heavy enough to create the right amount of counter force, against the gravitational pull of the cable, it should be ok, if the whole lift is just a little bit longer as one time the geosynchronous orbit.

  • @yagdtigercommander
    @yagdtigercommander 5 років тому +1

    Personally a space elevator would cause me a great deal of unwanted stress. I have vertigo and I am terrified of heights. If I am a scared standing on a 20 to 30 story building their is no way in Hell I am going up a space elevator. You couldn't pay a billion dollars to do it hell no just looking at the thing from ground level would make me feel like vomiting or borderline faint. Yes they were cool but also terrifying as fuck lol. So Yah If I were person in the halo Universe and saw one collapse I would be like see that's one I don't trust those dam space elevators and prefer a transport or shuttle to the space craft if I am going to another planet. Yah Hello no that shit ain't for me and if my friends wanted use it I would be like well its your funeral guys. When something is just to dam tall to the point it defies logic well I don't want to be anywhere near that thing if shit hits the fan lol.

  • @gmstaf2
    @gmstaf2 4 роки тому

    I love the theory of space elevators, but my only problem with them is how do you get it up there.... Whatever way I think about it, it just leads to even more problems.

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan 5 років тому +1

    Where are the other Earth based Space Elevators?

    • @FrostyWheats
      @FrostyWheats 5 років тому +1

      Jedi Spartan 38 there is one in Havana, Cuba and another in Quito, Ecuador.
      Halopedia probably has the rest of them on there

    • @Jedi_Spartan
      @Jedi_Spartan 5 років тому +1

      @@FrostyWheats thanks.

  • @moistedits4455
    @moistedits4455 5 років тому

    I didn’t get the notification... weird

  • @MVCentral
    @MVCentral 4 роки тому

    nice dude. only 5 dislikes

  • @teksaga6405
    @teksaga6405 5 років тому

    But how a space elevator survive any storms. Tornadoes and hurricane

  • @clxwncrxwn
    @clxwncrxwn 5 років тому +2

    Too bad the technology doesn’t exist yet,

    • @randybentley2633
      @randybentley2633 5 років тому +1

      When they do build one, cause it isn't a matter of if, I do hope some fool nutjob doesn't try and take it down.

    • @SargeRho
      @SargeRho 5 років тому +1

      @@randybentley2633 They'll probably be guarded by the equivalent of a CVN battle group, if not more, if one's ever built.
      (I say if, because one on Earth might not be possible at all. But on the Moon, it'd be possible right now)

    • @villepore7013
      @villepore7013 5 років тому +2

      @@SargeRho It is theoreticaly possible, if we can figure out how to grow 70 000 kilometer long nano carbon tubes or learn how to make shorter nano tubes into 70 000 kilometer long cable. Nanotubes and grafine are the best option to build the cable because they are strong and light enough.

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 5 років тому +2

      @Shadow Of Sundered Star it does require very good control over a giant ring of metal wobbling at 12 km/s though

    • @lilsammich8252
      @lilsammich8252 5 років тому +3

      Airships to a skyhook is way less dangerous than a space elevator.

  • @jojoxxi
    @jojoxxi 5 років тому +1

    First

  • @ghaith4497
    @ghaith4497 4 роки тому

    Space elevator❗
    The latest inventions that scientists today are designed is, to build a space elevator connecting Earth and space and this will lift the carriage of passengers and goods to outside the earth. The Quran has pointed to this innovation in the verse: (If you feel bitty for their objection, see if you can go in a tunnel inside the earth or reach the sky through a ladder) {al-anaam : 35 }

  • @KellyStarks
    @KellyStarks 5 років тому

    Note that in reality space Elevators turned out to have very limited carry capacity ( how much you can lift/lower per year ), and the cost per pound turned out very high compared to even conventional rockets.

  • @chippsdubbo990
    @chippsdubbo990 5 років тому +1

    Love in an elevator, livin it up till I hit orbit
    Ok might be one for the boomers

    • @themeanestkitten
      @themeanestkitten 5 років тому

      Love in...not love is

    • @chippsdubbo990
      @chippsdubbo990 5 років тому

      @@themeanestkitten I new that thx just gonna change that

    • @navb0tactual
      @navb0tactual 5 років тому

      @@chippsdubbo990 you mean you _knew_ that?

    • @chippsdubbo990
      @chippsdubbo990 5 років тому

      @@navb0tactualdamn f**k, u know what I'm trying to say but thank u

    • @FrostyWheats
      @FrostyWheats 5 років тому +1

      I made this channel to comment cal oh look an edgy middle schooler
      Chill out dude

  • @LeadSkillets
    @LeadSkillets 5 років тому +1

    Where's Elon Musk when you need him?

  • @AKlover
    @AKlover 5 років тому

    If Elon Musk can really get 100+ tons to orbit for less than 2M USD per launch in the short future we likely will not need space elevators.

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 5 років тому

      he cant, even with reusuable rocket you're not getting anywhere near that price, while a tether just runs on electricity and can likely put 100 tons in orbit for like 4 million

    • @AKlover
      @AKlover 5 років тому

      @@mxn1948 You can make fuel from sea water for the cost of power generation. So yes he can. No material we know of can be manufactured to withstand those stresses. When the largest sheet of graphene or carbon nano-tubes you can make is somewhere around the size of a quarter your nowhere near a space elevator.