2k Mile Review of the NEW Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ Tires
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The NEW Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ Tires have been great for over 2k miles now... and they just came In-Stock Today! Here is my overview of how they have been treating me... Full Review to come, but this is my 2k Mile Update.
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I’ve been riding the E12 and E13 Rallystars on my Africa Twin for quite a while. The E12 Rallystar rear in 140/80-18 usually gives me about 2500-3000 km of life but they grip surprisingly well everywhere.
Thank you for your feedback. I used the E10 and loved them. Now, I am stoked for these XT+ tires. Love putting new tires to the test!!!
Dual Venture vs Enduro XT front cage match. I have been less than impressed with Motoz Dual Venture front. Its loud, wobbly, and my side wall bubbled at 2k miles.
I'll have a walk around of the two once they get back in-stock. Spoiler: the XT+ is the winner.
Love the reviews tire oracle! Hows the weight of these compare to other tires? Do you have a spreadsheet of tire weights somewhere? Light Tuareg 660 feels the heavy tires!
Yes, these are lighter than many... heavier than some. A
Good in between.
Hello.
I just put 1 in the front of my Aprilia Tuareg 660 to replace a k60 ranger.
I've only drove on the road and off-road with lots of mud.
And I must say, with the k60 I had lost all my confidence when driving on mud.
With this trail xt+, all my confidence is back. This tyre is so amazing in mud, it's like there's no mud. It's really impressive the traction level but also the directional power in such condition.
I highly recommend it.
I've also one for the rear, but not yet fitted it (waiting that my k60 ranger wears out).
Also (in France at least), it's not expensive. I've paid 190€ for a set.
Thank you for your feedback! This is what I would have expected to read hearing you took off a K60 Ranger. I was not a fan of that front tire! Rear was good 1/2 way through and then got interesting. These are working well thus far!!!
@@manybikes hello.
Yes the rear is fine.
On muddy terrain it slips but it has very good traction even on deep mud :)
Awesome!
I think you might be the perfect person to ask this, seeing as you've tested so many ADV tires. I'm currently running a K60 Scout rear (130/80-17 w/o central strip) and a E07+ front (90/90-21) on my F650GS Dakar, but I've found the front grip lacking in sandy & muddy conditions. It seems to want to dart all over the place, not very confidence inspiring for a newbie in the soft stuff. Would you reckon the Mitas front would be a good match with the K60 rear for trail riding? Or maybe even the TKC80, old but gold(?).
Thank you for your inquiry. I would recommend the new Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ tire in the front. It is one of the best soft sandy Adv tires currently available.
@@manybikes Cheers Kyle! I think I indeed am going with the Enduro Trail XT+, a friend of mine has them on his XT600E and absolutely loving them! Ride safe.
Would love your thoughts directly comparing to MotoZ RallZ tires!! Either a comment or a video but I think that's what so many of us are going to be coming from and excited that Mitas now has an option for us. If we get 4k combined milage out of these on street/off road I'll be happy and the price is excellent!
Cage Match XT+ vs. RallZ The Mitas tiers are reversible so they will have "dual venture" like longevity which for me is upwards of 9k miles! The rear tire, we will see. Over 2k miles in and while it shows wear it's not half worn! Working to get over to my "test loop" and then I will put together an XT+ / RallZ corner for corner feeling / shootout. That will be awesome! Stay tuned!
So good - thank you!!!! You are the tire Sensi and I know we are all excited to continue to get your take on this!! Thanks for the reply and will keep an eye out for that video!!!
Still going strong!
@@manybikes Kyle!! Question … really bad head shake after installing the front … 2 shops balanced it and still there. You getting any on yours or have any tips??
Thanks for the great review! I will have to try a set sometime soon. But you didn’t answer the burning question! Will these make me ride like Chris Birch? 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
They can make Chris ride like Chris! Thanks for watching!
What your opinion on them in wet sand? I've been fairly unimpressed with the motoz DV in anything soft. So much so I can easily say the Shinko 705 front tracks better in it; The DV turns into slicks holding onto all the sand as I go. I'm not in the right climate for the Motoz H/T, so I'm thinking about either the Enduro Trail XT+ or Motoz I/T as my next Front wheel. I'm doing less and less highway (i know I should've gotten the 690, but now I'm emotionally attached XD) so highway comfort is less of a burden.
Yes, I would agree with you in the fact that the soft muddy stuff can clog up a DV. I've been running the Endueo ST Fatty and love it in that terrain. The new XT+ is a good compromise between those two. Shoot me an email and I'll send you a comparison pic between them. Manybikes at g mail dot com.
As far as the front is concerned, could this be a good pick for some spirited road riding, say in the North Georgia twisties during summer time (temps in the 90's, roads hot as a griddle)? Thanks for your input sir.
Yes, absolutely it would be a great pick. I have pushed it hard so far and it has not let me down.
Another great video there Kyle. Also we have to consider the torque that eats these tires up from respective bikes ie KTM, BMW, Ducati
100% my 1190 & 950 consume rubber at much quicker rates than the 390's!!!
thanks for review kyle, how many miles you got with this tyre?
6k now... It is about done in the rear. I could flip the front and get 2x the miles.
Which tyre pressures did you use during the trip? Thanks.
Upper 30's
Great looking area to ride in minus the rain. I really wish we had a beach or desert LOL
Ha! Ha! We've got them both, that's for sure !
Hi,what is your best combo for the ktm 1190 adv , rallz back and front,or rallz back and mitas Enduro xt + for more dirt orientation, thanks
@@PauloSantos-jy1qw RallZ rear and Mitas XT+ up front. Love this combo!
Do you know why we aren't going to get the enduro trail rally's? Looks like I'm only going to get 1500 miles from my motoz s/t rear tire. I don't want to go back to the rallz after having this tire, need to find a tire to split the difference.
Oh I can get them and actually just got my first set delivered last week!
The green stripe Pro is 3 lbs lighter than the yellow stripe Dakar!!!
I can ship you a set on Monday!!!
@manybikes hype, maybe this is the combo to have s/t front, enduro trail rally rear. I'll definitely keep you in the loop if your not testing similar. The s/t front has had a seller longevity. It still has over 8mm of tread left after 2.5k miles.
I'll give you an email Tuesday when my cards flip for the mitas rear!
@manybikes I'll tell you what though I did a 80mph > 0mph because of a flat on the highway with the s/t rear. The bike stayed up the entire way too the shoulder. I won't have a rear tire for a bit but if that tread got 500-750 more miles to it it'd probably be the best tire on the market.
Think I'm going to go with the new Enduro Trail + in the Dakar version for the rear (llove the E-07+), and try the XT+ out in the front. Thanks for another great video Kyle. 🤘
Sweet! I've got them in stock 10% off! www.Manybikes.biz
I have got this combination on my T7, works great. The only down side is in very muddy condition, the rear don’t grip very well at least not quite the same as the enduro trail xt+ would
Hi @manybikes again !
Can you say how the std xt non dakars perform on the road in corners ? In the uk unlike the usa we have more corners and roundabouts than striaght roads lol can you still crank it over and feel safe ?
The non-Dakar is a tad stickier but not by a lot. I do find myself riding pretty hard on them in the twisties without fear.
@manybikes Hi !
I have a tenere 700 , im looking at a set of these and prefer the standard version over the Dakar , have you tried the Standard rear yet and how is the mileage compared with Dakar rear ?
Thank you for your inquiry. I have them in stock and have run the non-Dakar on the 1190 for just 1k miles. I find it a hair stickier and a little softer / more feedback from the road. I am unsure what the mileage will be at the moment. Time will tell.... www.Manybikes.biz
Mitas XT+ frond and pair it with E-09 ot E10 rear. That might be a better option for optimal traction.
Great recommendation.
Kyle, I installed the Tusk 2 Tracks on my Tuareg about 250 miles ago. The front went from smooth to after about 50 miles of offroad having quite the Hop. I checked and the tread has become quite out of round and I dont like the way It tracks separations in pavement. I am considering the Mitas trail + for the front with the 2 Track back. Does it run true and smooth on pavement?
Thanks
Yes, the Mitas is a fantastic tire. It's my new go-to pairing with the Motoz RallZ rear tire.
Hey Kyle, checked your website but didn't see the 90/100 21 front that I want. Will you be carrying that size?
The 90/100-21 is in development. It will not be released until the end of this year, beginning of next. I too am waiting on that one!
Is this the Tubed or Tubeless XT+?
All of the XT+ tires on the initial launch were TT/TL meaning they are all tubeless tires that accept tubes for wheels that require them.
@manybikes surprising they are TL, they seem to have a less stiff carcass compared to other TL offerings.
Awesome, I have high hopes for the front I'm putting on and pairing with the Tractionator Adv rear. If it's better on the road, and off road, then the DV, then I've likely found my front tire. Still trying some out so I may also shoot for a D908RR rear or try a full set of Mitas like the Rally Pro Stars.
@Kylebradshaw for only off road on a 1250GS longevity not a concern what 2 tyres would you recommend for Southern Ca Gorman ,Borego ect..Iam considering one of these 3 my first choice .1.Anakee wild 2.Kenda Big blocks 3.Mitas trail xt
1. Mitas XT+ followed by Anakee Wild then... Kenda
I have a mitas e09 on my wr 250r and the best tire for powerslides, so far. if you are looking for a rear tire with ultra grip in corners, skip this. It has a very wide limit and makes it really easy to learn powerslides, because there are not so many blocks on the side like on other tires. A Motoz adventure has way more forward grip but is sketchier in corners (higher grip level, more sudden grip loss and more difficult to control). Wished Motoz had this block profile on one of their models
I'll let Motoz know your want a Mitas tread pattern ;)
Hi Kyle, do you prefer the Karoo 4 or the Mitas XT+?
The Karoo 4 is a great tire and is the absolute best wet weather tire I have run. The XT+ is great. I like the XT+ front tire better than the K4.
Once again, a valuable evaluation video
If you made that video Monday afternoon on I5 south bound. We were in our cager headed to San Diego in that rain. We saw that same horizontal lighting. Did that hail sting a bit?
Yes Sir! Monday about 5:10pm. The rain was hard ... didn't know it was hail! Thanks for watching!
The purpose of constantly blipping the throttle?
To test if it will break traction or not...
Do you recommend the Dakar over the standard softer version for the type of travel and terrain you are showing in your review videos? I'm struggling to decide if I go with a Dakar on the front and a standard on the back or Dakar front and back for my 20/80 ADV riding in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Wyoming, Nevada and Idaho. . .
@@_Akicita_ that's a great question. I like the "softer & stickier" non-Dakar front for cold and wet. The Dakar vs. Non is the rear is the question. I'm now on the standard... I do see it wearing quicker. We shall see. If you don't need the "15% more robust" construction the Non-Dakar will be the one to go with I think.
@@manybikes Thank you !!
My pleasure!
What about road noise? That is important. Thanks.
They have a little bit of a humm but are not too loud. Mild for how knobby they are, that's for sure.
@@manybikes Thanks, was planning on a thousand mile trip out to Colorado. And for that long of a trip noise is important.
Lane splitting in the rain on the painted lines...Yikes 😬
Getting it!
Thanks for all the amazing tire reviews.
Thanks for watching!
I met up with the European Mitas rep at the Lyon moto salon last week. He says you can mix and match these XT+'s with the E07's. Did you have any experience of this? He suggested an E07 on the back and an XT+ on the front.
Well, our XT+ tires just arrived here in the USA so nobody has been mix-matching them as of yet. BUT... I do think that some mixing up of things will provide longevity, traction and great road manners. The E07 is now the Enduro Trail +
I have this setup, great combo on a T7 (xt+ front, e07+ rear, both not dakar version)
Thanks for the amazing & consistent work on that topic !
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Very goog test, Kyle, thanks. Do you think is better to use the Dakar version of the Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ as rear tyre?
I'm running the standard up front and the Dakar in the rear. I'll try the standard next go round... then I'll be able to answer that question.
Hi in the video you use on the back the Dakar version?and in the wet is good?@@manybikes
Ok, great review! Thanks for doing them. You know what the big questions are how do they compare to the might Motoz? Off-road I think they might be better then the Rallz???? And every is dying to know how are they leaned over compared to the RallZ? Primarily curious about the front tire. Thanks!!!
Thanks for taking the time to comment. The front tire is better than the Rallz front tire on-road and very similar off-road. I think the rear RallZ has an edge on this XT+ when it comes to stickiness, tread depth and tread pattern / block orientation. I have the Non-Dakar version on the way and I will test that one to see how it feels as compared to this Dakar version. But yes... I will let you know. Cage Match XT+ vs. RallZ
@@manybikes Very interesting. Fom the looks of it I would have though the Mitas would have been better off road but not on. I would wager the Mitas might take the mud a little better. Sounds the front is the way to go. Just one more, how is the feel/tip in on the street as compared to the Rallz?
Thanks again for doing the reviews, it really benefits the big bike community. Looking at your sight, the fronts are in stock now?
The Mitas turns in a little quicker than the RallZ as the Mitas tire is a bit more "round" in profile. That being said, the RallZ keeps its profile the entire life of the tire and the Mitas gets a flat spot after 3k miles or so.
Nice! I have been having some wobbling with my Motoz Desert HT at high speeds. Do you think that a steering damper would clear that up?
Yes, a damper will help, but those tires are really really wiggly. Until 1/2 worn, then they smooth out.
@@manybikes thanks!
my pleasure!
Im looking forward to how thay r for money half the price motoz here in uk. It look have lot of fun on my 1190 r as well
2k miles in and they are not half worn. I get about 4k out of my RallZ... SO... it should be close!
@@manybikesthat is amzing news. i think i only get 2k out of them. becouse i live far away anywhere offroading i rid lot of hight way.
Yeah, I ride a lot of street too... at 90 mph just about everywhere I go. It will be interesting. I just crossed 3k miles this week.
@@manybikes How are they looking? What would you predict the mileage of these based on the wear so far?
Hi does anyone know .Do they buzz much on the road.
Yes Sir, 2500 miles in and they don't buzz on my 1190. Will mount them up on my 390 next weekend and will have info on that bike too.
@@manybikes thanks buddy I'll put some on my t7
I'm still disappointed in tusk 2track still no 17 inch rear sizes..beginning to to think they will never make anything other than 150/70/18 rear..
They say it's in the works. We shall see... I have a hypothesis.
@@manybikes to be fair they have been saying this for six months now.. what heck is their hold up ???
@@gabrielkopp2036I mounted yesterday 21” front, it looks and feels like the tire is made out of plastic. I am not sure if that’s good or bad, but I believe it’s getting hard to get them on temperature and it’s gonna be a shit show when it’s cold.
So FREAKING STIFF!!!
How do these compare to Anakee Wilds in the twisties?
I think they are a little more planted than the Anakee Wilds which move like riding on a cloud
Would you say this is an advantage or disadvantage on a lighter bike. I’ll be running on a CRF300L. I want to be able to lean over far on the street while giving up as little off road capability as possible.
Nice review!
Thanks!
Thanks for your review! Could you compare these to AX41?
Yes, I can do that. "There is no comparison" :) No really, the 2Track is a great all around tire with limitations when it comes to weight, comfort, cold weather and ease of mounting. It's a great all around tire. The AX41 doesn't last long but is a high performance knobby.
@@manybikes Thanks for your reply! I was actually interested in the comparison between AX41 and Mitas XT+, not with the 2Track :)
Oopsie! Sorry, that was the most recent video and the lionshare of my comments to respond to today. Yes, I will have an AX41 vs. XT+ video. They are very similar. The AX41 will last longer, that is for sure. I like the tread depth of the XT+ front tire. I am really pleased with it.
@@manybikes thnx 👍
@@Just_2_Wheelz for sure!!!
So is the tusk 2track no good?
It's a solid tire. Didn't like it in the cold / wet. Off road it was great.
Ok only reason I ask is they didn't stay on the KTM for long is all. I'm in FL so cold and wet isn't really a thing IMO
@@MotoCampAdv yeah, I've got three other tires to test NOW... so I rode them on two good multiple day 50/50 trips. No way I could keep them on another 5k to 10k miles. I shipped them to AdvMatt and he has them on his T7. Go check him out... and track the 2nd life of this tire. Edit: Ha! Ha! I just re-read this... "track & 2 nd" like a backwards 2 track!!!
You helped me so much in getting some tires recently.
Have Motoz Ralls on now and 2Tracks waiting next in line for my Norden.
Was interested in these too.
Appreciate your efforts!
These are pretty dang good! About $40 more than the 2 Tracks... way better in the cold / wet, that's for sure.
@@manybikes that much better in rain and cold huh?
Wishing I had held out for those but weren’t available so we’ll get them next.
Thanks again for your research and for sharing the info.
🏍️💨
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Kyle, thanks for this review and all the others over the years. Would you recommend the XTs for a CRF450RL that is ridden 50/50 on road off road? If not, what would be your preference?
Thank you for your kind words. Yes, I would totally recommend these for your CRF450RL. I've got them in-stock if you are interested!
Thanks for replying. I will be ordering a pair from you. What size do you recommend? Stock sizes are: 120/80-18 and80/100-21. Should I order the Dakar version?
I'd personally do the non-Dakar. It is lighter and more compliant. I would do the 120/80-18 and the 90/90-21