The handgrips are thin for a Harley and uncomfortably so for a long ride. I own a 2024!CVO Pan America. When I received mine, I took it on a 100-mile round trip ride, and even with a relaxed grip, my hands were fatigued. So, at least for my hands a larger diameter hand grip is called for. One workaround, since I am too cheap to buy a new heated hand grip, is a pair of gel-palmed gloves. Also, I immediately replaced the aluminum boxes with the soft-sided saddlebag Harley sells for the Pan America. It’s much easier to find a solid grip on the bike without the boxes attached if you drop it and have to lift it, and the soft-sided bags are waterproof and large-ish-capacity. I bought the bike as a CVO, because all-in-all you get a better deal and no supply chain issues purchasing the bike with all of the extras packaged as a CVO, and it matches my 2024 CVO Road Glide in legendary orange.
I had a 2022 for 2 years it ran Flawless. I added the Quick shift to it. I saw the 2024 CVO and loved the color combo. Picked up 2024 below invoice which was less than I pd for a fully decked out 2022 (minus the quick shift I added as not legal in CA) The problem with these bikes is the resale value sucks, plain and simple. If you don't care about $$$ fun bike. A low mileage used PAS can be picked up for $12- $13K. That is where you want to go get one.
5:30 I'm pretty sure the hand guards are designed to come off so that you don't break your wrists when you go over the handlebars. If they were solid, your hands would get caught.
I tried a Pan America at a HD demo event. Very powerful, more power than any othe Harley and many other brands. Very smooth engine. Immaculate seating position. Fantastic air management, with zero buffetting. I would never take it off road, it is too big for that IMO. Is is a good looking bike? Nope. But otherwise, one of the most powerful, comfortable and versatile bikes I have ever rode. Not in my budget, I will keep my V Strom. 😊
The thing you're pointing out (a lot) aren't hinges. The SW Motech Trax cases use those little flexible plastic pieces as retention straps for the lid so it opens to 90 degrees and doesn't flop open. I've had them on my top case without issue despite very frequent use. If they fail, you can replace them with anything, including some paracord, if you don't like the OEM ones. The hinge is clearly visible attaching the lid and body and is quite sturdy.
Great to hear no issues. I wonder why they included 2 extra sets? I did like the rest of the bags. Super solid design and I'd consider retro fitting them to other bikes.
Geesh' that bike looks' HUGE next to yer Dwarf like physic - so great to see HD givin' ya'll tech us other riders have had fer years now' Welcome to 2024
Traded my RG for one of these. Love the RG, but this suits my riding area better, especially with all the shitty roads around me. Muscle car vs sports car is a good analogy. If I could afford to own both, I would.
These bikes like 1250 gs, are 99.9% on road to heavy for anything other than gravel, and a Road king can do that, or off road the strength 💪 of Hulk Hogan. They are like most Adventurer bikes more comfortable on road than most touring bikes due to riding position and suspension travel.
They need to do the sport touring thing with it. Already has heated grips and cruse control.Add 17 inch tires and suspension to match. electric windscreen and I would trade in the FJR in a NEW YORK MINUTE!😎🏍👍
All the dealers I’ve been to still have the pan America CVO they were allocated. I’m not sure who is going to spend the extra money on the paint when people are thinking they might take the thing off road (even if they never do).
Yeah I was asking myself that when it came out. You do get extra lights, better skid plate, and the bag which are super expensive. I think like you said most guys aren't doing actual off road so the expensive paint makes more sense than it seems like it would. That said, I'd buy a regular Pan and do it myself so im with you. It's funny they all still have theirs bc Timms had people looking for one and when they tried to get them on from another dealer those dealers wouldn't let them go.
As with 99% of full size ADVs they are more used as Sport Tourers. Actually I thought of getting a CVO Pan Am as a touring capable upgrade to my Sportster S. If you factor in all the extras it has it’s also a good deal. In the end went with a Low Rider ST but the CVO Pan Am is seriously cool and capable.
I think the real reason guys modify Pan Ams to be more road oriented is because HD failed to release the Bronx. I think leaving the Pan Am as an ADV bike is fine, we just need the damn Bronx already.
You're right about the music that everybody plays. BUT you're wrong about not wearing gloves ALL THE TIME!. I've worked in the E.R. and I've seen hands that have fallen on asphalt. It ain't pretty! Nothing but shredded meat and broken bones.... even at slow speeds. Now that I've lectured you, welcome back!
Haha no doubt! Then again I have no misconceptions about my super thin moto gloves, they aren’t doing anything but embedding fibers into my wounds that you’ll have to clean out for me lol. Good to be back!
Are the turn signals both on the left hand, instead of one on each like Harley has always done? I've never noticed that before, but seemed that way while you moved the camera around.
The paint job makes it look much nicer but it seems more like a scrambler-type bike without the more knobby tires. Too expensive for me to drop in the muck and rocks. It would be more fun to buy an old Goldwing for cheap and go destroy it on the trails.
The off road mode, you hold more button to get into off road plus, the other off road mode is customizable, and you can get the plus version of that to, you have to be stopped to enter it, the a is just a custom mode, there is also a custom B mode
In my opinion, it's the lamest model to wear the cvo badge. Weak paint no extra power, just some accessories. A nightster cvo would have been a better showing. I guess a livewire cvo would be worse. Welcome back, Mr.Snipes I'm diggin the logo.
You aren't wrong. Definitely a strange move. I do wish before they X'd off the evo Sporty that it could have gotten a CVO edition as a send off. I get why they didn't (cost) but same could be said about this one like you said. Good to be back!
I have a lot of videos riding the Pan America. Some are off road riding, some are curvy roads, some are interstate. Go watch those. A bit ridiculous to leave this comment without doing so, no????
I've owned 20 new cars since 2020 from a Honda Accord to a Boxster 100k. 10 new Ducatis averaging 35k. All bikes and cars never come with the best stuff. You talk so much crap about Harleys. It's really annoying. I've blown over 325k on mew Harleys. I find it stupid when a guy buys a Dyna and spends 20 k on engine work and suspension. I will spend 19k on a stock import bike and smoke most stage 4 Harleys. Already most people can't afford Harleys.
Or…. They’ve recognized a hot market segment and are getting creative. Imagine who they’d be reaching had the kept Buell. The full dressed old man bikes aren’t gonna keep HD viable by themselves
I have a Australian delivered pan American worst bike I've ever bought it sits in the shed as it's worth less than 20 k Au the new bikes are less than 30k Au my bike is a 21 and had major issues with the wiring Harley being the worst company selling bikes wiped there hands of my issues since the woke complaints being bought to the front pages of you tube the company will end up going broke hopefully whatever you do buy make sure it's not a hardly worth buying HD shame on them and hopefully they are not here in the future
Love my 2024 PanAmerica CVO I’ve had many bikes, this is King of fun
cornsidering trading my '23 RGS for a CVO Pano..... looks like the _swiss army knife_ of bikes.
Traded my RG in for a PAS 2024 to travel with 300lb less. Storage box on back and I am good for a whole day of riding. Awesome bike!
The upgraded battery system on 2024s are a great improvement and helps with the electrical issues. I can’t imagine life without mine (2022).
The handgrips are thin for a Harley and uncomfortably so for a long ride. I own a 2024!CVO Pan America. When I received mine, I took it on a 100-mile round trip ride, and even with a relaxed grip, my hands were fatigued. So, at least for my hands a larger diameter hand grip is called for. One workaround, since I am too cheap to buy a new heated hand grip, is a pair of gel-palmed gloves. Also, I immediately replaced the aluminum boxes with the soft-sided saddlebag Harley sells for the Pan America. It’s much easier to find a solid grip on the bike without the boxes attached if you drop it and have to lift it, and the soft-sided bags are waterproof and large-ish-capacity. I bought the bike as a CVO, because all-in-all you get a better deal and no supply chain issues purchasing the bike with all of the extras packaged as a CVO, and it matches my 2024 CVO Road Glide in legendary orange.
Hi Blair, good to see you back man. Cheers from Australia.
Steve.
Feels good to be back! Sturgis content on the way soon. Would love to eventually make my way over to where you are.
A new bike break in period instructional video would definitely be a good one to do. I'll be on the lookout for it.
It's very simple, covered well in the owners manual.
I had a 2022 for 2 years it ran Flawless. I added the Quick shift to it. I saw the 2024 CVO and loved the color combo.
Picked up 2024 below invoice which was less than I pd for a fully decked out 2022 (minus the quick shift I added as not legal in CA)
The problem with these bikes is the resale value sucks, plain and simple. If you don't care about $$$ fun bike.
A low mileage used PAS can be picked up for $12- $13K. That is where you want to go get one.
5:30 I'm pretty sure the hand guards are designed to come off so that you don't break your wrists when you go over the handlebars. If they were solid, your hands would get caught.
I too dislike the Harley custom paint with graphics, but not with this bike! For some reason, this bike, as is..... is DOPE!
I tried a Pan America at a HD demo event. Very powerful, more power than any othe Harley and many other brands. Very smooth engine. Immaculate seating position. Fantastic air management, with zero buffetting. I would never take it off road, it is too big for that IMO. Is is a good looking bike? Nope. But otherwise, one of the most powerful, comfortable and versatile bikes I have ever rode.
Not in my budget, I will keep my V Strom. 😊
Nice bike,I want one and might just get this for FUN
It is definitely fun.
I second that welcome back!
Good to be back. Appreciate you. 👊🏼
The thing you're pointing out (a lot) aren't hinges. The SW Motech Trax cases use those little flexible plastic pieces as retention straps for the lid so it opens to 90 degrees and doesn't flop open. I've had them on my top case without issue despite very frequent use. If they fail, you can replace them with anything, including some paracord, if you don't like the OEM ones. The hinge is clearly visible attaching the lid and body and is quite sturdy.
Great to hear no issues. I wonder why they included 2 extra sets? I did like the rest of the bags. Super solid design and I'd consider retro fitting them to other bikes.
@@throttleblip9854 They're supposed to also go on the lids of the side cases.
Geesh' that bike looks' HUGE next to yer Dwarf like physic - so great to see HD givin' ya'll tech us other riders have had fer years now' Welcome to 2024
Heck yeah brother
Traded my RG for one of these. Love the RG, but this suits my riding area better, especially with all the shitty roads around me. Muscle car vs sports car is a good analogy. If I could afford to own both, I would.
These bikes like 1250 gs, are 99.9% on road to heavy for anything other than gravel, and a Road king can do that, or off road the strength 💪 of Hulk Hogan. They are like most Adventurer bikes more comfortable on road than most touring bikes due to riding position and suspension travel.
They are very capable as off roaders. I have had mine crossing rocks lines where one, except maybe Bogan wouldn't go.
Be definitely cool to have Mike Beland on. I like what A1 Cycles have done for the Pan Am.
Yeah I’m a big fan of Mike. No nonsense no BS just good products and the facts!!
They need to do the sport touring thing with it. Already has heated grips and cruse control.Add 17 inch tires and suspension to match. electric windscreen and I would trade in the FJR in a NEW YORK MINUTE!😎🏍👍
The suspension it has is pretty awsome.
Wow didn’t know this was a local thing, too cool.
All the dealers I’ve been to still have the pan America CVO they were allocated. I’m not sure who is going to spend the extra money on the paint when people are thinking they might take the thing off road (even if they never do).
Yeah I was asking myself that when it came out. You do get extra lights, better skid plate, and the bag which are super expensive. I think like you said most guys aren't doing actual off road so the expensive paint makes more sense than it seems like it would. That said, I'd buy a regular Pan and do it myself so im with you. It's funny they all still have theirs bc Timms had people looking for one and when they tried to get them on from another dealer those dealers wouldn't let them go.
As with 99% of full size ADVs they are more used as Sport Tourers. Actually I thought of getting a CVO Pan Am as a touring capable upgrade to my Sportster S. If you factor in all the extras it has it’s also a good deal. In the end went with a Low Rider ST but the CVO Pan Am is seriously cool and capable.
I think the real reason guys modify Pan Ams to be more road oriented is because HD failed to release the Bronx. I think leaving the Pan Am as an ADV bike is fine, we just need the damn Bronx already.
Has the bike got a low seat with the same design on the seat. Greet to have you back greet review.
You're right about the music that everybody plays. BUT you're wrong about not wearing gloves ALL THE TIME!. I've worked in the E.R. and I've seen hands that have fallen on asphalt. It ain't pretty! Nothing but shredded meat and broken bones.... even at slow speeds. Now that I've lectured you, welcome back!
Haha no doubt! Then again I have no misconceptions about my super thin moto gloves, they aren’t doing anything but embedding fibers into my wounds that you’ll have to clean out for me lol. Good to be back!
Full review typically includes price, great review. Thanks
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Are the turn signals both on the left hand, instead of one on each like Harley has always done? I've never noticed that before, but seemed that way while you moved the camera around.
Pan Americas are both on one side like normal bikes have..👍🏽
yep both on the left. My right thumb kept looking for the right one over there.
Ugh! I don't think that I could live with that stock tractor exhaust! It would drive me out of my mind!
You and me both! There are some great sounding exhausts out for these finally.
It comes with a quick shifter why are you shifting
I wish i could fit in these bikes, but im short. 5 7 here
I’m a big Pan Am fan, but boy a lot of negativity in this review
They can't afford one!
The first yr the Pan America came out i met a dude who was doing an iron butt on it
The paint job makes it look much nicer but it seems more like a scrambler-type bike without the more knobby tires. Too expensive for me to drop in the muck and rocks. It would be more fun to buy an old Goldwing for cheap and go destroy it on the trails.
Yea do that vid
The off road mode, you hold more button to get into off road plus, the other off road mode is customizable, and you can get the plus version of that to, you have to be stopped to enter it, the a is just a custom mode, there is also a custom B mode
Welcome back! This is a great bike to make a return to UA-cam video. 😊
Appreciate it! Yeah I’ve been wanting to see one in person forever and they FINALLY got one! I absolutely love this thing.
In my opinion, it's the lamest model to wear the cvo badge. Weak paint no extra power, just some accessories. A nightster cvo would have been a better showing. I guess a livewire cvo would be worse. Welcome back, Mr.Snipes I'm diggin the logo.
You aren't wrong. Definitely a strange move. I do wish before they X'd off the evo Sporty that it could have gotten a CVO edition as a send off. I get why they didn't (cost) but same could be said about this one like you said. Good to be back!
And your wrong comes from factory with screaming eagle parts that others do not have
@david-lesterstraight5384 that's the accessories part.
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Why would you block the dash with the GoPro , you are reviewing the bike not yourself.
Emmerich Divide
Not hinges
how can you test a bike and report behaviour just by driving on a straight line..... a bit ridiculous, no???
I have a lot of videos riding the Pan America. Some are off road riding, some are curvy roads, some are interstate. Go watch those. A bit ridiculous to leave this comment without doing so, no????
@@throttleblip9854 no, I was commenting THIS video. Now if you have difficulties to ride a bike I advise a good training.
Its a nice looking and riding bike, too bad they are so unreliable!!
They truly seem to get better as time goes on. That said i wouldn't buy a 21 or 22 for that exact reason.
Extremely reliable Anchorage Ak to end of Peru and back to Arkansas
@@throttleblip9854I had a 22, 0 issues. The that bought it, 0 issues.
I've owned 20 new cars since 2020 from a Honda Accord to a Boxster 100k. 10 new Ducatis averaging 35k. All bikes and cars never come with the best stuff. You talk so much crap about Harleys. It's really annoying. I've blown over 325k on mew Harleys. I find it stupid when a guy buys a Dyna and spends 20 k on engine work and suspension. I will spend 19k on a stock import bike and smoke most stage 4 Harleys. Already most people can't afford Harleys.
HD trying too hard to be ‘part of the crowd’. Shame.
Or…. They’ve recognized a hot market segment and are getting creative. Imagine who they’d be reaching had the kept Buell. The full dressed old man bikes aren’t gonna keep HD viable by themselves
I have a Australian delivered pan American worst bike I've ever bought it sits in the shed as it's worth less than 20 k Au the new bikes are less than 30k Au my bike is a 21 and had major issues with the wiring Harley being the worst company selling bikes wiped there hands of my issues since the woke complaints being bought to the front pages of you tube the company will end up going broke hopefully whatever you do buy make sure it's not a hardly worth buying HD shame on them and hopefully they are not here in the future
That thing looks ridiculous, Africa Twin all day
Junk.
Really and you own one and have spent time, to give this opinion?
@@david-lesterstraight5384 Yes, I sold it after 2700 miles and 6 weeks it was in the shop out of 11 weeks ownership. HD quality is JUNK! Never again.