I had a crush on Amanda Blake for much of my childhood and adolescence. Who can blame me? She convincingly played a character who was a woman ahead of her time. Always beautiful, yet she never used her good looks to get ahead. She asserted herself with an authority that stemmed from her quiet dignity, her self-respect, self-assurance, and courage. She never took any s**t from anyone and as a consequence, she was always accorded total respect even from the toughest of troublemaking toughs, ...well, almost always. And in such rare instances when she found herself facing trouble, there was always Matt Dillon somewhere near at heart and certain shortly to be near at hand, determined to intervene. And Matt, well Matt respected Kitty more than anyone on earth.
@@photo161, you are mixing up Kitty a character with Amanda Blake a person. She was an excellent actress and I am sure some part of her personality was in the way she played the character, but as for the whole person..we in viewerland really do not know these people in their completeness, and never will. Did you ever believe O.J. wasn't a nice guy because O.J. the actor and announcer, was a gregarious, friendly guy? Knife slasher of any human being..? No, we did not think that. Only bigots thought OJ wasn't a nice guy off of the field. We really do not know these celeb people. Most of them project one image and are like anyone else, much more complex and fallible, like all of us. Its a real shame that actors in particular get stereotyped into one kind of role because people cannot see them beyond that role. It limits them and cost them more fruitful careers. Some are happy all the way to the bank with that, others are not. If I was an actor, I would appreciate the fans' love of that character, but would be ticked off, I was not accepted in other roles. They are just people, warts and all. That is why I do not listen to celebs telling me how to deal with or feel about social issues/politics. They are no more an automatic expert on that than an athlete, or listen to their opinions on food, clothing, or other products, goods and services. I don't let politicians be my authorities on sports no more than I let athletes be my authorities on public policy. See..they are not any wiser. and... They are not necessarily who they appear as in front of the public; usually that "NOT" is the case. Think about it.
His pay was decent for that era. The shooting schedule was 22 weeks, and he earned $3,000 per week. Adjusted for inflation, $3,000 in 1939 would be $63,000 in 2023.
@@ChrisHansonCanada makes you wonder what the actors and actresses of that period would think of movie stars getting paid $15-$20+million for a movie today.
They gave the definition of "cursive" as a noun. But that is derived from the original meaning as an adjective: "flowing often with the strokes of successive characters joined and the angles rounded". It is what we used to call long-hand. The first use of the word as an adjective occurred around 1784; as a noun in 1838. So "cursive" would indeed be an appropriate antonym clue for "print".
I agree about cursive being kind of the opposite of print. Because in school you first learn to print then move on to cursive writing. 🦉And in 1966 we used cursive writing. And we all knew about it !!!
Yes, I was calling it cursive in school here in California in the late 60s. I was wondering if it became adopted as a term for longhand after ludd and Amanda finished school because the man who said it appeared to be a generation between them and us. Anyway, it's I find it interesting to note the differences in common words and word associations between then and now.
The intended audience for this show was hardly an intellectual one, which explains it's elementary nature. It's real reason for existence was the same as that for soap operas--merely as an advertising vehicle.
I know it's been mentioned here elsewhere, but it's really strange that they don't know "cursive." I learned to write about 3 years after this was broadcast and we always referred to it as "cursive."
I totally agree with you !! And I am from California. Maybe it was different on the other coast ?! Blessings from California. I always write in cursive even now. 🦉
Ray Bolger was the much better player. Amanda wasn't showing that this was her forte. She dressed beautifully as did the female contestant and the men were very handsome in their suits. Different era back then.
At 20:24 someone leans over in front of the camera and gets their head (or at least their hair) into the shot in the lower right-hand corner of the screen.
Sadly, the "Closed Captions" option is not working on this episode. Allen Ludden (the supposed English Major with a College degree) did not know what "Cursive" was. Neither did the actor R.B.. Amazingly daft people, considering that they both earn their $ by using words. A.L. insults the contestant, because A.L. is ignorant of English words. ugh! At the end of the program A.L. gave some silly definition of the word. Cursive simply means Handwriting, versus upper and lowercase print lettering. Each classroom I was in from 1st Grade to H.S. "Language Arts" class had diagrams near the chalkboard of each letter and digit we use. Print and Cursive. Since A.L. had children, I would have thought he had maybe visited his children's school for "Back-to-school night" and saw the "cursive" letters on the wall. A.B. was much better as "Miss Kitty" on Gunsmoke than on "Password". Crummy clues hurt the contestants.
. 5:09 - So, Allen Ludden praises Ray Bolger for all the clues he's given after he and his contestant, Yvonne, complete the lightning round.......but did anybody else think he should have also praised HER for actually coming up with all the answers, based on the clues he gave? Not that they were necessarily bad clues, but as that round progressed, I kept thinking that I probably couldn't have come up with the right words, based on what he was giving, yet she kept doing just that all the way through! And this opinion, whether right or wrong, brings up another question that maybe some long time watcher of this particular show might be able to answer, because I can't......did Allen Ludden ever praise any of the contestants on the show for exceptional play, or did he (generally speaking) always tend to give the credit to the celebrity partner whenever he did that? It's very possible he did, but as I'm hearing him praise Ray Bolger, I was trying to think of any previous examples of him doing the same for random contestants on the show, and couldn't remember any.......does anybody know if Allen Ludden occasionally also praised the non-celebrity contestants on his show for their exceptional play, or if he usually tended to praise just the celebrities for their play on the show ?? 🤔 .
I always write ✍️ in cursive ! I was born in 1954. And we definitely all knew it and were taught it in school. Maybe California was different then other areas ? But even today you hear the word. Because people are concerned that it will become obsolete, because of computers. 🦉
@@marycook1644 - Hello. Nope, I was schooled in Utah and Smogyfornia. We learned "Cursive" handwriting after we learned the upper and lower case print letters. Each classroom I was in ( well not the "Shop" classes or P.E. ) had both the printed and cursive style letters on the wall in a diagram form. The fault is that of Ray Bolger and A.L.. The clue was good. The contestant was a College grad who was trying for a Master's degree. I bet he mumbled things all the way home. When you are a contestant on a word game show, and neither the Celeb or Host know stuff, it must have been maddening. He lost money because neither A.B. nor R.B. were very good. If he had been there with Paul Anka or Peter Lawford or Mitch Miller, he might have made some $.
If I didn't know what "cursive" meant, I would have thought it had something to do with saying a "curse" word, as in a swear word. The second male contestant looked a bit like Edd Byrnes. In the final lightning round, that was the first and only time I've seen the clock malfunction and the hand not move.
A Bart Simpson moment. He's asked to go up and write something in cursive on the board, the next moment he's walking down the hall to the principal's office.
Yes, they do. But in this case, cursive is still a good “opposite” clue if the clue giver uses the correct voice inflection. Saw a later episode of Password where Jack Klugman gave the clue “publish” for the password for “print”. His partner correctly answered and scored 10 points whereas in this episode the password wasn’t guessed after 10 clues.
@@lynnturman8157 l was in grade school at this time. We learned cursive after we were proficient at printing. And you hear the word alot now, because people are worried about the new generation not being taught it in school because of computers. 🦉
@@lynnturman8157 Words sometimes do change meanings over time, but R.B. had NO idea at all what the word was. Cursive simply means handwriting. "Cursive" was a good clue. IF Ray Bolger knew more English words instead of memorizing scripts and plays, he might have got it. Parrots can repeat words, but they do not understand them.
![What's My Line? - Simone Signoret; Ray Bolger [panel] (Nov 12, 1961)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bz3kH2isb8U/mqdefault.jpg)
Amanda Blake was the most beautiful and humble woman on television at that time. I just love her ❤
ever see Barbara Eden? This lady looks 100 compared to her.
Yes, Amanda and those eyes !!! I used to love to see her gaze at Matt on Gunsmoke
Matt: miss kitty ain't bashful colors she just doesn't want to marry you
Amanda Blake looks beautiful. Stars back then were so classy
I agree. ♥️
She looks like Baby Jane.
Amanda Blake was beautiful, and wearing green IS her color. Against her red hair and blue eyes it is the PERFECT color for her, 10+.
having a color tv back then was quite a luxury, that's why luden goes on about the colors of the guests.
But not that motley assortment of greens. She looks like she's in camouflage. And the matching headscarf looks hideous.
Ray Bolger was delightful!
Women rarely looked more feminine and beautiful than in the 1960s. Of course Amanda Blake was always stunning.
Margaret Alan doesn’t know cursive writing???
Surprised!
I had a crush on Amanda Blake for much of my childhood and adolescence. Who can blame me? She convincingly played a character who was a woman ahead of her time. Always beautiful, yet she never used her good looks to get ahead. She asserted herself with an authority that stemmed from her quiet dignity, her self-respect, self-assurance, and courage. She never took any s**t from anyone and as a consequence, she was always accorded total respect even from the toughest of troublemaking toughs, ...well, almost always. And in such rare instances when she found herself facing trouble, there was always Matt Dillon somewhere near at heart and certain shortly to be near at hand, determined to intervene.
And Matt, well Matt respected Kitty more than anyone on earth.
@@photo161, you are mixing up Kitty a character with Amanda Blake a person. She was an excellent actress and I am sure some part of her personality was in the way she played the character, but as for the whole person..we in viewerland really do not know these people in their completeness, and never will.
Did you ever believe O.J. wasn't a nice guy because O.J. the actor and announcer, was a gregarious, friendly guy?
Knife slasher of any human being..? No, we did not think that.
Only bigots thought OJ wasn't a nice guy off of the field.
We really do not know these celeb people.
Most of them project one image and are like anyone else, much more complex and fallible, like all of us.
Its a real shame that actors in particular get stereotyped into one kind of role because people cannot see them beyond that role.
It limits them and cost them more fruitful careers.
Some are happy all the way to the bank with that, others are not.
If I was an actor, I would appreciate the fans' love of that character, but would be ticked off, I was not accepted in other roles.
They are just people, warts and all.
That is why I do not listen to celebs telling me how to deal with or feel about social issues/politics.
They are no more an automatic expert on that than an athlete, or listen to their opinions on food, clothing, or other products, goods and services.
I don't let politicians be my authorities on sports no more than I let athletes be my authorities on public policy.
See..they are not any wiser. and...
They are not necessarily who they appear as in front of the public; usually that "NOT" is the case.
Think about it.
There no more humble shows like this anymore
No matter..what he did in his show biz career..Ray will always be remembered as"Hunk Andrews"/"The Scarecrow"in"The Wizard Of Oz".
Ray Bolger was asked how he felt about the low pay he got for the Wizard of Oz. He replied he had received immortality so he was ok with it.
His pay was decent for that era. The shooting schedule was 22 weeks, and he earned $3,000 per week. Adjusted for inflation, $3,000 in 1939 would be $63,000 in 2023.
@@ChrisHansonCanada Thanks, that is interesting.
@@ChrisHansonCanada makes you wonder what the actors and actresses of that period would think of movie stars getting paid $15-$20+million for a movie today.
Yvonne Stewart - smart AND beautiful.
They gave the definition of "cursive" as a noun. But that is derived from the original meaning as an adjective: "flowing often with the strokes of successive characters joined and the angles rounded". It is what we used to call long-hand. The first use of the word as an adjective occurred around 1784; as a noun in 1838.
So "cursive" would indeed be an appropriate antonym clue for "print".
Thanks! And believe it or not, I am the guy who said 'cursive' that day.
You are correct!
Say what?
That is very strange considering that generation was nowhere near as dumbed down as successive generations
Nope. Bad clue. As the outcome demonstrates. Not a good idea to use archaic or obscure references. James Joyce not needed.
I agree about cursive being kind of the opposite of print. Because in school you first learn to print then move on to cursive writing. 🦉And in 1966 we used cursive writing. And we all knew about it !!!
Yes, I was calling it cursive in school here in California in the late 60s. I was wondering if it became adopted as a term for longhand after ludd and Amanda finished school because the man who said it appeared to be a generation between them and us. Anyway, it's I find it interesting to note the differences in common words and word associations between then and now.
RIP YOU BEAUTIFUL ANGEL. 🤠🖖
Cursive is what every child used to learn in 2nd or 3rd grade.
Opposite of print.
The intended audience for this show was hardly an intellectual one, which explains it's elementary nature. It's real reason for existence was the same as that for soap operas--merely as an advertising vehicle.
exactly, how in the world does Alan, or Ray NOT know Cursive?
I started to learn it in first grade
@@ShannonFrengI think knowledge of words is intellectual and more intellectual than Wheel of Fortune
@@brookehanley3659 True, it's a touch above 'Wheel,' but only marginally. But my original assessment still stands.
I know it's been mentioned here elsewhere, but it's really strange that they don't know "cursive." I learned to write about 3 years after this was broadcast and we always referred to it as "cursive."
I totally agree with you !! And I am from California. Maybe it was different on the other coast ?! Blessings from California. I always write in cursive even now. 🦉
I was born in 1954 , so I was doing cursive way before you .
I've always referred to it as "script". I've never heard of it called cursive until many years later.
Obviously the Scarecrow still has the brain the Wizard gave him!
Allen Ludden: Betty White's husband.
She won $350 in 1966. She went out an bought a house, a car and boat.
Now she can go to Whole Foods and buy dinner for tonight.
That would be about $3500 in 2024.
"CURSIVE" was a good clue! I guess that the older crowd didn't get it. When I was in school, there were 2 forms of handwriting...cursive and PRINT.
Older crowd knew cursive
@valeriegriner5644 they’re saying that they’re gonna stop teaching cursive in schools
Cursive is longhand, handwriting.
Ray Bolger was a good player
Every time they say Montel I keep thinking Williams.
Ray Bolger was the much better player. Amanda wasn't showing that this was her forte. She dressed beautifully as did the female contestant and the men were very handsome in their suits. Different era back then.
Cursive is how you sign your name. DUH!
They really didn't know what cursive meant? Wow 😳😯 I know they taught it in schools!
It would have been great if they convinced James Arness to come on and play against Amanda. But hexalways tefused interview and TV appearances.
Miss Blake was very pretty here...much more than any time on Gunsmoke.
Totally disagree.She was stunning on that show. Have you seen early Gunsmoke?
At 20:24 someone leans over in front of the camera and gets their head (or at least their hair) into the shot in the lower right-hand corner of the screen.
It was Betty
Sadly, the "Closed Captions" option is not working on this episode.
Allen Ludden (the supposed English Major with a College degree) did not know what "Cursive" was. Neither did the actor R.B.. Amazingly daft people, considering that they both earn their $ by using words. A.L. insults the contestant, because A.L. is ignorant of English words. ugh! At the end of the program A.L. gave some silly definition of the word.
Cursive simply means Handwriting, versus upper and lowercase print lettering. Each classroom I was in from 1st Grade to H.S. "Language Arts" class had diagrams near the chalkboard of each letter and digit we use. Print and Cursive. Since A.L. had children, I would have thought he had maybe visited his children's school for "Back-to-school night" and saw the "cursive" letters on the wall.
A.B. was much better as "Miss Kitty" on Gunsmoke than on "Password". Crummy clues hurt the contestants.
Ray Bolger looked mad when Amanda got her to say horizon
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5:09 - So, Allen Ludden praises Ray Bolger for all the clues he's given after he and his contestant, Yvonne, complete the lightning round.......but did anybody else think he should have also praised HER for actually coming up with all the answers, based on the clues he gave? Not that they were necessarily bad clues, but as that round progressed, I kept thinking that I probably couldn't have come up with the right words, based on what he was giving, yet she kept doing just that all the way through!
And this opinion, whether right or wrong, brings up another question that maybe some long time watcher of this particular show might be able to answer, because I can't......did Allen Ludden ever praise any of the contestants on the show for exceptional play, or did he (generally speaking) always tend to give the credit to the celebrity partner whenever he did that?
It's very possible he did, but as I'm hearing him praise Ray Bolger, I was trying to think of any previous examples of him doing the same for random contestants on the show, and couldn't remember any.......does anybody know if Allen Ludden occasionally also praised the non-celebrity contestants on his show for their exceptional play, or if he usually tended to praise just the celebrities for their play on the show ?? 🤔
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Cursive is longhand. Opposite of print. Thought it was a good clue. You don't have make the guest feel like an idiot.
I always write ✍️ in cursive ! I was born in 1954. And we definitely all knew it and were taught it in school. Maybe California was different then other areas ? But even today you hear the word. Because people are concerned that it will become obsolete, because of computers. 🦉
Yes, particularly when Allen Ludden was the (rude) idiot.
@@marycook1644 - Hello. Nope, I was schooled in Utah and Smogyfornia. We learned "Cursive" handwriting after we learned the upper and lower case print letters. Each classroom I was in ( well not the "Shop" classes or P.E. ) had both the printed and cursive style letters on the wall in a diagram form.
The fault is that of Ray Bolger and A.L.. The clue was good. The contestant was a College grad who was trying for a Master's degree. I bet he mumbled things all the way home.
When you are a contestant on a word game show, and neither the Celeb or Host know stuff, it must have been maddening. He lost money because neither A.B. nor R.B. were very good. If he had been there with Paul Anka or Peter Lawford or Mitch Miller, he might have made some $.
@@gusloader123 True !! 🦉
Crazy how they asked the second lady what her husband does for a living and what SHE does for a living. I know. It was the 60s, but still...
If I didn't know what "cursive" meant, I would have thought it had something to do with saying a "curse" word, as in a swear word. The second male contestant looked a bit like Edd Byrnes. In the final lightning round, that was the first and only time I've seen the clock malfunction and the hand not move.
A Bart Simpson moment. He's asked to go up and write something in cursive on the board, the next moment he's walking down the hall to the principal's office.
This episode was scrambled
Those lamebrains didn't know what "cursive" meant? Really? And the definition they came up with was totally bogus. Weird.
Not only was he unfamiliar with the (good) “opposite” clue of cursive, Ludden mocked the player giving it. You’re 0 for 2 there, Allen.
This is gonna blow your mind but meanings of words change over time.
Yes, they do. But in this case, cursive is still a good “opposite” clue if the clue giver uses the correct voice inflection. Saw a later episode of Password where Jack Klugman gave the clue “publish” for the password for “print”. His partner correctly answered and scored 10 points whereas in this episode the password wasn’t guessed after 10 clues.
@@lynnturman8157 l was in grade school at this time. We learned cursive after we were proficient at printing. And you hear the word alot now, because people are worried about the new generation not being taught it in school because of computers. 🦉
@@lynnturman8157 Words sometimes do change meanings over time, but R.B. had NO idea at all what the word was. Cursive simply means handwriting. "Cursive" was a good clue.
IF Ray Bolger knew more English words instead of memorizing scripts and plays, he might have got it. Parrots can repeat words, but they do not understand them.
Another "Montel" who can say, "This is how we do it...!" For the Lightning Round, anyway, and about 30 years before Mr. Williams.
Hasn't she got a great voice ..+ Alan sudden was the best !!
Amanda Blake is REALLY bad at the lightning round.
What a boring gameshow format. How long did this shit run for?
40 years.
It was very popular and they made a Home game of it for years. We had it. Multiple versions on TV over the years including Password Plus
You needed brains to appreciate it
@@brookehanley3659 It was aimed at housewives, of the 60s and 70s--hardly a brain trust, there.
CURSIVE= CALLIGRAPHY. Dah! Italics ar bold .