@@adventureundone Yes - the other two things that swung the decision for me was the low slung fuel tank on the Husqy/KTMs and I don't have a Triumph dealer within an hour of me. That and I'm a sucker for round headlights!
This might have been posted in the comments already but if you slow down and hold the mode button it will allow you to switch from off road back to road. Still can't go the other way unless you come to a stop but if your trail ends and you're back on the pavement, it's nice not to have to stop.
I've had my GT Pro for a month. After riding Harleys for 30 years, I wanted something lighter, nimble and, well, different. I rode up to the Blue Ridge Parkway last weekend and the GT is an excellent touring motorcycle. It has more tech than I need (or want), but I can find little fault with the bike other than the goofy TFT screen--mainly the way the tach is displayed--and the seat. I thought HD had the most uncomfortable seats, but this Triumph is the winner for the worst seat comfort. I hear the Sargent seat isn't much better. Those are really my only gripes. Good video. Ride safe.
I have a 2023 RP as well and live in the South East USA like you apparently do. So I am surprised you didn't mention heat from the radiators. That is my number 1 least favorite issue with this bike. If my knees were being cooked with heat from the radiator I don't think I would have much to complain about. I can live with all the other little issues you pointed out. Thanks for the review.
I have two more small ones, also electronics. 6) Range calculation is awful, reserve comes on, and range starts dropping to the point where you might think you're leaking fuel. 7) Cruise control works fine when engaged but is jerky when resuming a previously set speed. My F 850 GSA does the right thing smoothly, like a car. The Tiger wants to be left close to the set speed before resuming.
Agree with your comment - Absolutely love the bike but find that the quick shifter is jerky as well ...some have advised it depends on your throttle control but then why bother why not just use the clutch
For it not to come equipped with cruise control for the long distances between "Adventure" is a major oversight in this day and age. When younger, I did a 5000 mile on my 2008 Speed Triple, I'd left the H-D and Yamaha FJR 1300 at home to finally ride the Taos Triumph rally on a Triumph. It was really pleasant to find that that bike was a fantastic touring machine. A tank bag moved the airflow over me in a perfect manner and a Kuryakin Tour bag on the passenger seat allowed for enough carry capacity. The suspension, light weight and power made for a most memorable trip. No heat issue, either. To bad that it is one of the many great bikes that I let get away to change for something new. :(
Do you think it's possible for us to get a software update from the dealer on the old Tiger 900 Rally (Not the Rally Pro) to enable to Offroad Pro mode?
Here’s my take on the stopping for mode changes coming off the trails. I get up to speed, pull the clutch in, turn the bike off, back on and then when it asks if you want to hit “mode” and “ok” for off-road, hit cancel and you’re in road mode.
To reset the service indicator, you need the Tune ECU app and a Bluetooth dongle. Not expensive and simple to do. BTW, just stumbled across your channel and really enjoy your videos. My biggest gripe with the bike has to be the tire pressure monitors not having a programmable warning threshold.
I have a 23 rally pro and 100% agree with your complaints. I also have a Cardo (Edge) and an Iphone (13 pro max) and have finally figured out how to get everything to play nice….ish. Do not pair the Cardo to your phone. Pair your phone to the bike without using the app. Pair your Cardo to the bike. Always use the handlebar controls to do everything, including making phone calls. I found that you actually have to access each function from the bikes menu, before it works, every time you ride. For example, if you want to make and receive phone calls, go to your contacts list from the bike as soon as you start riding. As soon as you notice that your recent calls, have updated on the TFT, you’re good to go!
Interesting. I gave up on the GoPro, my Cardo and phone all integrating. Now I just use them apart from the bike and it doesn't bother me at all. Not sure how much more I'd love to control everything from the bike and doubtful I ever will lol. Glad to finally know somebody made it all work...
I looked at this bike really hard. Price was my issue. I already have a really expensive bike, decided to go simple but fun. Bought the Ducati Desert Sled. Loving it
All of my motorcycles have shown a 5mph lower speed, since my 2007 VFR. That's why there is a product on the market called speedohealer. That's a gripe to have with all motorcycles not just this one.
Not your Triumph bike is 5 miles lower in speed, this Triumph bike speed sensor is almost correct, but every car speed sensor ( also the car of your wife ) shows you the incorrect speed, the higher speed you get on the car, the higher is the difference to the original speed ! 😉 For example, if I drive 108 km/h on my Prius III, I actually drive only 100 km/h ! Best regards from a german Tiger 900 Rally Pro driver since 2023 ! 🥳😊 Nice video 👍💪😊
@@adventureundone TY! Your videos on this bike are the most thorough on YT! I am looking at buying a 2022 Rally (not pro) well cared for and with good protection accessories.
#7 The ridiculous phone charger under the seat. Given that there is basically no room for extra tools or a flat kit under the seat as it is, it's a real missed opportunity
great video. I just got rid of my AT after just 4k miles and I'm interested in this bike. How does it compare size/height/weight wise with the AT. I loved my AT, but in the end, it was too much bike for me. Apologies if you already addressed this one.
@@adventureundone It might, I didn't try it. Works on road and sport mode for sure, on the move by holding down the mode button for 3 seconds (I can't remember but i think you have to shut down the gas, as you do to road to sport mode.
Not nitpicking - at the price it should deliver premium functionality. My Sena mesh also hangs up immediately, the km/h displays about 10% over actual speed. Some settings require full stop, some settings revert during power cycle. A lot of effort is put into making things not working... Cruise control requires 30km/h or more AND 3rd gear or higher and it will not resume from lower than 30km/h to whatever you have set. The service requirement and resetting the indicator is a scam that makes Apple envious. The service manual is hidden behind a subscription paywall. Also, if you're not used to glue every bolt when attaching stuff to the tiger you will lose screws and parts due to engineered vibration. My first ride I had to stop to buy a tool to refasten the mirrors. It's not a joke that tightening bolts are a vital part of normal service. The main outlet for 12v on the front is both a unusual plug type AND always powered (yes, even when parked). Do not use force when trying to remount the rear seat - the locking part will be pushed into the seat rendering the locking non-functional ... The clutch and the brake handles are completely different, I can barely get three fingers on the clutch handle and no room to adjust. On my GT Pro the handguards are just cosmetical from a protective point of view (it does help with wind and rain). For a GT the wind screen is smaller/narrower than they should be. Getting stuck in traffic will make the engine heat up and your left knee will be cooked by the radiator flow. I could go on. If it hadn't been such a nice ride with some real touring potential I would have sold mine.
What windscreen and mirrors are those? 🤘🏻 another thing that bothers me and maybe it’s because of it’s capabilities but why not add that amazing electronically adjustable rear suspension to the rally pros. I rode a gt pro and it is unreal. Makes it sooo hard to pick between the odd looking rally pro or the not tall enough GT pro 🤣 both are incredible.
I’m thinking Tuareg 670. You can change everything on the fly easily with the push of a button. Being 6’4 I’d look a little big for the bike though 🤷🏼♂️
I was in the market for a new bike about a month ago and this bike was really high on my list. The tiger checked every box that I was looking for. But after doing a little bit of research, I came to find out that you need to remove the gas tank and dig through a heap of wires and connectors just to change the air filter. I passed on it. I ended up purchasing a GS. We’ll see how that goes.
Nice vid. can I ask something this is definitely not the stock screen I see here or am I wrong. That's also a negative point (6) the stock screen is too small. I am also considering buying a Tiger but more oriented for the road doubt between 900 and 1200 gt pro. ✌
The 900 is amazing on the road as well. I didn’t 8hr hwy ride straight, and it was perfect. Correct not the stock screen, but the stock one is fine for shorter rides. But long rides I prefer more wind blockage
@@adventureundone look, i know FOR SURE between rain/road and sport yo can, you even get a sing in the board that say “close throttle to change modes” or some like that, idk from road to off road o so
No need to stop when going from off-road to road mode. Just hold down the mode button for a few seconds. Do have to stop when going from road to off-road.
The 600 mile service is serious. I think that most guys blow it off and think they can perform the 600 accurately themselves? Well I never would buy it if I can’t take it to a dealer. Bikes these days have so much software, you gonna update it yourself?
It's expencive, yes...but you bought the top spec version You've got a massive top box on the back ? I tried that in muddy conditions ..;bike goes anywhere but where you're pointing at. Switching between modes is indeed a safety precaucion....that is the same for all brands You can get rid off the maintenance indicator by changing the actual date ( not to far, just a few months) and do maintenance when the actual milleage is due The 5 miles difference on the indicator has probably to do with the fact this Rally pro version has bigger tires than the GT version, but uses the same software
i have test drive on rally pro. After Tiger 1200 this was a blast of joy. Light, nimble... but there is one thing i hate. The screen, not the quality of it, but layout. Man this thing sucks. Main reason why i don't buy this model. New 1200 is light years ahead of this abomination. I ended up with Norden Expedition.
Do most people switch rider modes that often? I just did a section of the BDR and never bothered changing my abs once. Does it make that much of a difference? (I just ride a V-strom so genuinely curious) Also, calling the bike "Rally Pro" and then putting street tires on it stock should be illegal
Listening to music while riding a bike on a dirt road will put me to sleep. I'd rather leave that to Harley and cruiser riders or Honda Goldwing riders
This bike was on my list and you helped me decide. You’re right, the price is definitely a factor. Ended up with the Norden. Appreciate your help!
oh sweet! how do you like the Norden? BTW isn't the base tiger 900 rally the same price as the Norden?
@@adventureundone Yes - the other two things that swung the decision for me was the low slung fuel tank on the Husqy/KTMs and I don't have a Triumph dealer within an hour of me. That and I'm a sucker for round headlights!
@@advmike😂I agree, I love that round headlight!
This might have been posted in the comments already but if you slow down and hold the mode button it will allow you to switch from off road back to road. Still can't go the other way unless you come to a stop but if your trail ends and you're back on the pavement, it's nice not to have to stop.
Mods can be changed if u hold clutch for couple of seconds ....
I've had my GT Pro for a month. After riding Harleys for 30 years, I wanted something lighter, nimble and, well, different. I rode up to the Blue Ridge Parkway last weekend and the GT is an excellent touring motorcycle. It has more tech than I need (or want), but I can find little fault with the bike other than the goofy TFT screen--mainly the way the tach is displayed--and the seat. I thought HD had the most uncomfortable seats, but this Triumph is the winner for the worst seat comfort. I hear the Sargent seat isn't much better. Those are really my only gripes. Good video. Ride safe.
oh wow, I'm not sure if the GT has a different seat than the rally, but I love it. Has to be one of the most comfortable stock seats I have sat on.
I have a 2023 RP as well and live in the South East USA like you apparently do. So I am surprised you didn't mention heat from the radiators. That is my number 1 least favorite issue with this bike. If my knees were being cooked with heat from the radiator I don't think I would have much to complain about. I can live with all the other little issues you pointed out. Thanks for the review.
I mentioned it in my main review. But it doesn’t bother me much, but yes I do feel it
That’s a real issue, but I must admit that I love having the extra heat when riding in cold weather 😂 They should make an adjustable deflector
Great video, thanks for posting it. 👍🏼
I’m trying to decide between this bike and an Africa Twin.
Which bike is better for 2up riding?
I have two more small ones, also electronics. 6) Range calculation is awful, reserve comes on, and range starts dropping to the point where you might think you're leaking fuel. 7) Cruise control works fine when engaged but is jerky when resuming a previously set speed. My F 850 GSA does the right thing smoothly, like a car. The Tiger wants to be left close to the set speed before resuming.
Agree with your comment - Absolutely love the bike but find that the quick shifter is jerky as well ...some have advised it depends on your throttle control but then why bother why not just use the clutch
For it not to come equipped with cruise control for the long distances between "Adventure" is a major oversight in this day and age. When younger, I did a 5000 mile on my 2008 Speed Triple, I'd left the H-D and Yamaha FJR 1300 at home to finally ride the Taos Triumph rally on a Triumph. It was really pleasant to find that that bike was a fantastic touring machine. A tank bag moved the airflow over me in a perfect manner and a Kuryakin Tour bag on the passenger seat allowed for enough carry capacity. The suspension, light weight and power made for a most memorable trip. No heat issue, either. To bad that it is one of the many great bikes that I let get away to change for something new. :(
this does have cruise control
Do you think it's possible for us to get a software update from the dealer on the old Tiger 900 Rally (Not the Rally Pro) to enable to Offroad Pro mode?
Here’s my take on the stopping for mode changes coming off the trails. I get up to speed, pull the clutch in, turn the bike off, back on and then when it asks if you want to hit “mode” and “ok” for off-road, hit cancel and you’re in road mode.
To reset the service indicator, you need the Tune ECU app and a Bluetooth dongle. Not expensive and simple to do.
BTW, just stumbled across your channel and really enjoy your videos.
My biggest gripe with the bike has to be the tire pressure monitors not having a programmable warning threshold.
I have a 23 rally pro and 100% agree with your complaints. I also have a Cardo (Edge) and an Iphone (13 pro max) and have finally figured out how to get everything to play nice….ish. Do not pair the Cardo to your phone. Pair your phone to the bike without using the app. Pair your Cardo to the bike. Always use the handlebar controls to do everything, including making phone calls. I found that you actually have to access each function from the bikes menu, before it works, every time you ride. For example, if you want to make and receive phone calls, go to your contacts list from the bike as soon as you start riding. As soon as you notice that your recent calls, have updated on the TFT, you’re good to go!
Interesting. I gave up on the GoPro, my Cardo and phone all integrating. Now I just use them apart from the bike and it doesn't bother me at all. Not sure how much more I'd love to control everything from the bike and doubtful I ever will lol. Glad to finally know somebody made it all work...
I looked at this bike really hard. Price was my issue. I already have a really expensive bike, decided to go simple but fun. Bought the Ducati Desert Sled. Loving it
Yeah the price hurts. But at the end of the day, you get what u pay for.
My 2016 tiger xcx can be done without stopping.i love my tiger.
All of my motorcycles have shown a 5mph lower speed, since my 2007 VFR. That's why there is a product on the market called speedohealer. That's a gripe to have with all motorcycles not just this one.
I hate the wrench reset for oil changes, and to find total mileage must go to settings to find it
Not your Triumph bike is 5 miles lower in speed, this Triumph bike speed sensor is almost correct, but every car speed sensor ( also the car of your wife ) shows you the incorrect speed, the higher speed you get on the car, the higher is the difference to the original speed ! 😉 For example, if I drive 108 km/h on my Prius III, I actually drive only 100 km/h ! Best regards from a german Tiger 900 Rally Pro driver since 2023 ! 🥳😊 Nice video 👍💪😊
I have a 900 Rally Pro as well and my speedo is also off by 4 mph according to every radar sign I ride past. Love the bike tho.
Weird, mine is spot on 5mph off 😂 this is a common issue I have been seeing as well
Yes my 23 RP is 5 off
I know that post your crash you switched to the Honda. But would you buy this bike again for doing things like the SM 500, MABDR, etc?
all day long yes, my biggest gripe about it is the price
@@adventureundone TY! Your videos on this bike are the most thorough on YT! I am looking at buying a 2022 Rally (not pro) well cared for and with good protection accessories.
What windscreen are you using?
#7 The ridiculous phone charger under the seat. Given that there is basically no room for extra tools or a flat kit under the seat as it is, it's a real missed opportunity
great video. I just got rid of my AT after just 4k miles and I'm interested in this bike. How does it compare size/height/weight wise with the AT. I loved my AT, but in the end, it was too much bike for me. Apologies if you already addressed this one.
Same reason I got rid of mine. My next video will be covering this point actually 👍
You can switch from off-road to road on the go, though. Long-press the “mode” button.
Thanks for the tip. Does this also work while in rider mode?
@@adventureundone It might, I didn't try it. Works on road and sport mode for sure, on the move by holding down the mode button for 3 seconds (I can't remember but i think you have to shut down the gas, as you do to road to sport mode.
Doesn’t work for me. I’ve tried it many times and I Still have to come to a full stop.
Hold mode button for a few seconds then roll off throttle to get back to road mode.
What about the talk of vibration at highway speeds?
Not nitpicking - at the price it should deliver premium functionality. My Sena mesh also hangs up immediately, the km/h displays about 10% over actual speed. Some settings require full stop, some settings revert during power cycle. A lot of effort is put into making things not working... Cruise control requires 30km/h or more AND 3rd gear or higher and it will not resume from lower than 30km/h to whatever you have set. The service requirement and resetting the indicator is a scam that makes Apple envious. The service manual is hidden behind a subscription paywall. Also, if you're not used to glue every bolt when attaching stuff to the tiger you will lose screws and parts due to engineered vibration. My first ride I had to stop to buy a tool to refasten the mirrors. It's not a joke that tightening bolts are a vital part of normal service. The main outlet for 12v on the front is both a unusual plug type AND always powered (yes, even when parked). Do not use force when trying to remount the rear seat - the locking part will be pushed into the seat rendering the locking non-functional ... The clutch and the brake handles are completely different, I can barely get three fingers on the clutch handle and no room to adjust. On my GT Pro the handguards are just cosmetical from a protective point of view (it does help with wind and rain). For a GT the wind screen is smaller/narrower than they should be. Getting stuck in traffic will make the engine heat up and your left knee will be cooked by the radiator flow. I could go on. If it hadn't been such a nice ride with some real touring potential I would have sold mine.
What windscreen and mirrors are those? 🤘🏻 another thing that bothers me and maybe it’s because of it’s capabilities but why not add that amazing electronically adjustable rear suspension to the rally pros. I rode a gt pro and it is unreal. Makes it sooo hard to pick between the odd looking rally pro or the not tall enough GT pro 🤣 both are incredible.
Sounds like you need to try the 2024.
I’m thinking Tuareg 670. You can change everything on the fly easily with the push of a button. Being 6’4 I’d look a little big for the bike though 🤷🏼♂️
Nice bike
What is your experience with the Givi screen? Is it a lot better than the OEM screen? Greetings from The Netherlands
oh its so much better! I did cut 4" off it
@@adventureundone That's 10cm! Why did you do that, was it too tall for on the road?
I was in the market for a new bike about a month ago and this bike was really high on my list.
The tiger checked every box that I was looking for.
But after doing a little bit of research, I came to find out that you need to remove the gas tank and dig through a heap of wires and connectors just to change the air filter.
I passed on it.
I ended up purchasing a GS.
We’ll see how that goes.
Not at all, just the seat and side panel on the tank
I ride in Offroad Pro all the time, no matter what surface I'm on.
Nice vid. can I ask something this is definitely not the stock screen I see here or am I wrong. That's also a negative point (6) the stock screen is too small. I am also considering buying a Tiger but more oriented for the road doubt between 900 and 1200 gt pro. ✌
The 900 is amazing on the road as well. I didn’t 8hr hwy ride straight, and it was perfect.
Correct not the stock screen, but the stock one is fine for shorter rides. But long rides I prefer more wind blockage
Mine is the 007 edition and thankfully it came with Bridgestone tires. The Metzelers suck
What do you mean stop to change modes? You just have to close throttle and press “ok”
hmmm, you sure?
@@adventureundone look, i know FOR SURE between rain/road and sport yo can, you even get a sing in the board that say “close throttle to change modes” or some like that, idk from road to off road o so
For road oriented modes, yes…but not for off-road. You have to stop and engage off-road and then stop again to engage road again
No need to stop when going from off-road to road mode. Just hold down the mode button for a few seconds. Do have to stop when going from road to off-road.
The 600 mile service is serious. I think that most guys blow it off and think they can perform the 600 accurately themselves? Well I never would buy it if I can’t take it to a dealer. Bikes these days have so much software, you gonna update it yourself?
It's expencive, yes...but you bought the top spec version
You've got a massive top box on the back ? I tried that in muddy conditions ..;bike goes anywhere but where you're pointing at.
Switching between modes is indeed a safety precaucion....that is the same for all brands
You can get rid off the maintenance indicator by changing the actual date ( not to far, just a few months) and do maintenance when the actual milleage is due
The 5 miles difference on the indicator has probably to do with the fact this Rally pro version has bigger tires than the GT version, but uses the same software
All that you complain about is completely legit.Agree with everything you say.JHB-SA.
you should buy the new 2024 model and test /compare again 🧐
i have test drive on rally pro. After Tiger 1200 this was a blast of joy. Light, nimble... but there is one thing i hate. The screen, not the quality of it, but layout. Man this thing sucks. Main reason why i don't buy this model. New 1200 is light years ahead of this abomination. I ended up with Norden Expedition.
How’s the reliability?
Oh man, I love the screen.
@@IAmYourReflection i can't really tell. Got only 1,5k km. But with no problems.
Do most people switch rider modes that often? I just did a section of the BDR and never bothered changing my abs once. Does it make that much of a difference? (I just ride a V-strom so genuinely curious)
Also, calling the bike "Rally Pro" and then putting street tires on it stock should be illegal
The mph is on every motorcycle my Harley was between 5 and 10 mph slower then the speedometer says
Listening to music while riding a bike on a dirt road will put me to sleep. I'd rather leave that to Harley and cruiser riders or Honda Goldwing riders
Vibes vibes vibes
your hight? Love from Bangladesh...
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It’s 5 miles slower so you don’t get caught by speed cameras. It’s a lovely machine.
😂 that’s what I’ve been thinking. Safety feature lol
BS. There is no excuse for an inaccurate speedometer in todays market.
Could it be the newer tires have a different outer diameter?