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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show, I'm your Host Paul aka The Headless Hostman and this video we're breaking down the ending of The Haunting Of Bly Manor!
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The Haunting Of Bly Manor Series Recap
Ok so the Haunting Of Bly Manor is loosely based on the book The Turn Of The Screw. This psychological supernatural horror has been the basis for a lot of ghost stories such as The Innocents, The Haunting, The Others and even The Turning which was released earlier this year.
Unlike the other adaptations though, Bly Manor isn’t so much a ghost story as it is a love one.
The show carries the central theme of memory as well as the past, and the series showcases how several characters are haunted by theirs.
There's a real dichotomy here with us seeing how some characters try to escape their past whilst others won't let go of it.
If you've seen Flanagan's other work Doctor Sleep you may remember in that there was a line that stated memories are the real ghosts, and though we do get our fair share of the supernatural here, it definitely feels like it dabbles in this motif.
We pick up at a wedding dinner rehearsal and are introduced to Jamie, a woman who recounts the story of her deceased lover Dani, an au pair that worked at Bly Manor in the 80s.
Dani is haunted by the ghost of her ex-fiance, who tragically died several years prior and she moves out to the UK in order to get away from this. Throughout the series it's revealed that Dani is actually gay and when she came out to her partner he ended up getting knocked down.
His ghost has followed her since this moment and she is desperate to escape him and her past. Ultimately when one is trying to flee from something they often are unable to because the thing that they are trying to run away from will inevitably become their driving force and her inability to let go ends up making her constantly live in fear.
This is reflected in several of the characters that we meet throughout the season including Henry Wingrave. A lot of the character arcs in the show actually stem from Henry and he oversees his brother's estate who sadly died before the events of the show. It's revealed that Henry had an affair with his sister inlaw and that he is actually the father of Flora, one of the children that lives at the manor.
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Dani heard Peter and Miles say it's you it's me it's us when she's tied up
He didn't manipulate Rebecca to take her own life, he literally killed her
Yeah, he said he had to do it, she didn t even want to.
Well he manipulated her into allowing him to possess her while she thought it would just be them co-existing in her body in actually he put her into a memory and killed her in the lake
and even the worst is that he left the body drowning, so rebecca did feel the pain of drowning.
@@catto247 yeah, the same people that say that Rebecca killed herself, are the same that say that Nelli killed herself
@Serving It Cold she never agreed to her death
The ending was really depressing yet beautiful. Dani couldnt look in the mirror because of her dead boyfriend. Jamie would spend her time looking on her own reflection hoping she would see Dani. What Dani had was guilt while jamie's was love.
Totally! In comparison also to Rebecca and Peter, where Peter tricked Rebecca. But Dani never took Jaime.
And in the end when Dani died, her heart was full of love, not empty and hollow rage like Viola. That's why she never took anyone down with her, unlike Viola.
@@zeynabbbb ❤❤😢
What a beautiful parallel. Heartbreaking, but beautiful all the same.
Never thought id get this many likes. 😂
You see- I disagree with the first bit. I don’t think her ex boyfriends ghost was haunting her. I believe it was her guilt haunting her, manifesting itself as her ex boyfriend
Yeah. I doubt Eddie would be so cynical as to haunt her for so long.
Yep, it was a red herring making us think that he was the supernatural element of the show.
Exactly!
That is how i saw it 2
It was her PTSD .
I like how the show itself admitted that it was not a Horror show
"It was not a ghost story. It was a love story."
Exaclty. From the start it tells you that. Flanagan told us that.
So anyone else complaining about it def were not paying attention.
People think ghost automatically mean jump scares and paranormal activity. Not a haunting from the past or yourself. Mike Flanagan is not for these people.
with sufficient lgbt pushed down audience's throat
Yea It def is different when u look at it as a dark romance type movie instead of horror
Krabby Kat lol normal people aren’t bothered by that, sorry you were 🤷🏻♀️
This season’s ending was more depressing to watch than the first one. We feel so bad for Dani because her sacrifice is forgotten
But it's effects weren't. Flora (who otherwise would not have survived) is getting married at the end; and Jamie, the narrator, is forever changed because of the love they shared. Think of who Jamie was at the beginning of the series. It's a tragedy in a sense, but in another sense, there is a lot of hope. For Flora, for that entire family. For Jamie. And that is all because of Dani. Flora may not remember, but her life is forever changed (and saved) because of it.
Dani brought the fractured Wingrave family together, allowed their wounds to heal. Broke the curse on Bly Manor. Showed Jamie what true love is and how some people are worth the effort. That's sacrifice right there.
@@zeynabbbb Just reading this made me tear up again
One of the saddest endings to a show that I've watched in a long time think the last time i cried to something media related was the ending of final fantasy 15. Also there's a hand on Jamie's shoulder right at the end alluding to dani always being there with her
@@zeynabbbb masterful words🙊😢😭
Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Dani's eyes were different colours in the last episode? One blue (representing Dani) and the other brown (Viola).
this also happened at one point with miles and i believe peter
I was actually scared seeing her eyes in the last episode. I knew something’s bad gonna happen.
Whattttttttt
Wow, what incredible attention to detail by the filmmakers, and by yourself. I didn't notice that!
Why any character either like Jamie or Owen?
"You. Me. Us...Us. Take me with you. She cried in her heart. Take me. Drag me down like you did the others. But the lady in the lake was different now. The lady in the lake was also Dani. And Dani wouldn't. Dani would never."
#TheHauntingofBlyManor is totally a love story.
I'm a f-ing mess, oh my God
Dani😭 just so brave and protective😭 broke my heart in the end.
Come on duuudddeeeee, this made me tear up againn😭😭
@@mlikespizza I'm sorry😭😭 I just love the script😭😭
😭😭😭😭Too soon
I wanna see how much you cry when you watch Titanic. Sheesh lol
@@WesternXC does anyone really cry watching the titanic?
the ending left me in shambles. jamie and dani deserved more
They got years together. That's far more than many of us get.
@Calvin Johnson do you think its to do with the kids forgetting Dani? As Owen did say the kids do not remember anything? So if she isn't remembered she's also a forgotten memory like Viola?
@Calvin Johnson i wish it was. I really wanted a happy ending for Jamie and Dani.
Christine C. Yes!! And some who do get a lifetime with their love would say that it wasnt long enough 😢 I think that’s what Flanagan was trying to say, the loss hurts the same! The precious memory making is the same💕
They got more than most relationships of today that’s for sure.
Hill house was better but the bar is set so high that would be hard to hit.if hill house never existed this would be amazing with nothing out close to it.great review tho.
Thanks, yeah Hill House was too good, I feel like this was trying to capture lightning in a bottle again
Jacob Locke hard disagree! This story was way better!
Honestly I can't choose which is best out of the two because they are both best at one particular thing. For Hill House the show was the best when it came to horror and for Bly Manor it was best at storytelling. I found that I cared more for the characters of this story more so than the ones from Hill House. Don't get me wrong now, the characters of Hill House had some sad stories, but there were particular characters that I truly felt like crying over in Bly manor. Those characters were Hannah and Rebecca. Rebecca made the mistake of falling for a selfish man who instead of moving on when he became a ghost and found he couldn't leave the manor with her chose to posses her and kill her so she'd forever be stuck in the manor with him. Man that guy pissed me off beyond belief. Then there was Hannah who had to repeatedly live out her past relationship with Owen. For the life of her she just couldn't cross that line and agree to move away with him, but when she finally agreed to leave with him he walked off into the darkness unable to hear her desperate calls.
They are so different. And the thing Flanagan was not trying to remake hill house as you can see with this story and I loved that.
Hill house: family story thru and thru
Bly manor: love story thru and thru
I agree hill house is one of the greatest shows of our generation
Hill House was creepier, had much better pacing and was overall a lot better imo however the ending to this show is ridiculously depressing (in a good way) and it’s not a bad “sequel” at all, it’s just that the first show was so good it’s hard to match it
My only complaint is that it lacked the horror element way too much man.
@@NavjotSingh-lz5do agreed. Hill house was so eerie.
@@NavjotSingh-lz5do whay do you mean I was on the edge the entire time waiting for a jump scare that never came.. And I applaude flanigan for having the balls to do a horror story without the jumps.. This felt like a proper ghost story someone would tell around the campfire
But I think hill house lacked one thing this one didn't, they gave a back story of why this place was the way it is, which I think was the best part about it, yeah it lacked jump scares and the horror we are used to, but they gave us fear of the beyond, I mean we always question what's going to happen when we are gone, so seeing it being played out that way scared the living shit out of me.
If i remember correctly, i think the manor was used as a summer house for them, so they weren't there often.
Hannah never ate nor drink throughout the entire show. That was a small clue that she was dead the whole time
Year the second time she didn’t eat/drink I was like, she’s dead. I wasn’t sure but I look for those foreshadowing moments.
Ruby Rayne can someone tell me? Why did she die? Did the child push her to the place she died? And when did she die? A long time ago? And she was talking with owen. Owen said things about her death? But was it a memory? Did owen know about hannah is dead?
@@lidia1544 She died because Peter possessed the little boy and pushed her into the well. She died just before Dani arrived to the Manor, but her ghost didn't realize that she was dead and still appeared and acted like normal
@@jakebrown1941 he was a disturbed and very very bitter man
N KatZ and why did the kids locked her in a little room. I guess it was to keep her in a safe place to protect her from Viola right?
6:40 Rebecca did not possess Dani, she wanted to possess Flora so she wont feel her death, dani knows the phrase because she heard it while she was in the attic with the kids and the ghosts
Thanks for writing that. There are a few others deets he got wrong. And I disagree with his interpretation of the end. And I would give it a 7 out of 10.
Exactly
exactly. she witnessed the possession and heard the words spoken WHILE she was gagged and tied up
Hannah was my favorite character the actress really made me feel Hannah pain and loneliness 🥺
The same here, I liked her from the start! :)
@Torchy Brown she's in sex education and years and years, great in both
Me too!!
Hannah was a shocking character to me. I didn't really think she was going to be that big of a character but she was such a sweet caring person that finding out she was a ghost was so sad.
Dani’s ex-fiancé did not die several years ago. She moved to England immediately after the funeral. So it is only couple months since his death
I think in her interview she mentioned that the posting for the position had been up for like 9 months or something like that.
It was at least six months but it’s safe to assume she was there marginally longer than that. Definitely more than a couple months and probably closer to a year.
she went to England very shortly after the funeral, and she told Henry she’d been there for 6 months, so it’s safe to say he’d died 6-7 months before the beginning of the show
y’all need to know that just because the show didn’t live up to your expectations, doesn’t mean it was bad. i thought the writing, the cast, the story was so compelling and amazing. unlike hill house, this was more of a gothic love story. more of a physiological horror. i’m honestly glad it wasn’t that “typical scary” that you see in most horror movies. it had more depth, more feeling. 10/10 for me!
This series is not for evreyone , for some people it may get boring because you had to be focused feeling everything through the whole thing and that's at least for me exactly what I look for in a series or a movie.
The problem for me was the drama... The characters felt really disjointed. In Hill House every révélation felt like it explained something about the other characters as well. Here it felt really anecdotal, and a lot of the relationships appeared random and flat
It wasn't boring at all for me. It was beautiful.
Totally agree
If they are not familiar with the work of Mike Flanagan, they should know that he doesn't deal w the typical horror, jumpscare etc ie like the work of James Wan(I love him too btw)
His horrors are alive, literally alive, they are human psyches, human emotions and fears and I mistakes and regrets come to life.
And I love that he chose his lane, he created his own horror in this vast horror genre.
As you can tell😅😅 I'm a huge fan
And you need to know that people are allowed to have different opinions. Just because you liked it doesn't mean others have to.
Definitely enjoyed it! but it's much more phycological horror in comparison to hill house. That's why for some it's very slow and possibly boring, but for someone like me who constantly likes to figure out what is going on and why it was perfect. I enjoyed how everything tied together and christ those people can act.
Chris yes it is, I’m just gonna copy and past wiki because cba. Psychological horror is a subgenre of horror and psychological fiction with a particular focus on mental, emotional, and psychological states to frighten, disturb, or unsettle its audience. The subgenre frequently overlaps with the related subgenre of psychological thriller, and it often uses mystery elements and characters with unstable, unreliable, or disturbed psychological states to enhance the suspense, drama, action, and paranoia of the setting and plot and to provide an overall unpleasant, unsettling, or distressing atmosphere.
Lol this is funny
Same. In fact I enjoyed it more than I enjoyed Hill House. The story was just a lot more personal.
Same here I thought it was better than hill house, I cried and laughed, it was weird how my emotions shifted from one feeling to another with every scene.
Me too. Much prefer this to jump scares. Although I knew right from the start hannah was dead.
I kinda disliked Rebecca, she was mentioned as being so sweet and nice, but she was prepared to leave orphan kids behind over a guy she just met. Even if she was really in love it made me dislike her from the start.
Wow she was manipulated. You are innocent if you have never seen or been manipulated it takes away all reason. I understand that.
Bru she was in a abusive relationship. In fact she’s the one that saved the day in the end. She continuously helps the kid. Getting the girl to pretend to be possessed so she could escape. When thing the girl would die she took over so the girl wouldn’t feel the pain. She cared for them
Hmmmm ok 🙄
Yes I somewhat agree with you. But I thought her and Peter’s story line was the most entertaining part of the show.
me too didn't like her at all
They tried to make peter sympathetic but when he killed hannah, i lost all sympathy for him.
Couldn’t come to like him after he stole the jewellery and then he just got worse and worse. Such a manipulative character.
I dont think they did. He was literally a narcissistic dick from the first episode to the last. Lmao
What I didn't get completely was peter raped by his father?? Why his mother was in a hospital?? Did her mother and him try to kill his father??
@@delmicortave
I also felt Peter’s story was really incomplete. So many things were never answered about him.
@@delmicortave his mother was suffering from drug addiction. hence why she was in hospital and asked peter for money
This show is so deep and the definition of "happysad" lol
@Kaif bukhari ikr samee
"Melancholy" lol
Its shallower than a kids paddling pool during a hose pipe ban. Honestly, some people are so easily pleased with absolute guff theres days.
I feel like this show takes horror and elevates it to help tell the story. Hill House was scarier but I also think it’s because it had that sinister edge since the house itself was evil and there were more things to the story that required that edge. Bly Manor felt more depressing, lonely and vengeful? I really loved this whole season in a different way than Hill house especially for: Viola’s episode, Hannah’s episode and Rebecca’s episode. They all had so much detail and answers that really made the show feel more emotion. Instead of fearing the lady of the lake, I felt sympathy and horror for her character because of what happened and the fact she’s stuck on an endless loop. For Hannah, she wasn’t able to fulfill her love until the end. For Rebecca, I teared up for her because her possessive man ditched her when dying felt too terrible of a commitment to get her through together. I think I’ll need to rewatch again so I can fully absorb all the hidden detail. Overall I really enjoyed this!
You encaptured perfectly how I feel about both series !! I saw sad to see people not viewing each story separately and for how wonderful both are !
Dani’s hand on Jamie’s shoulder....too satisfying, one of the best endings I’ve experienced
Haunting of Hill House Haunting of Bly Manor
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Victoria Pedretti
I swear, if they make a 3rd season they need to give Victoria Pedretti’s character a happy ending and stop tormenting the poor girl.
Spoiler alert but in 3rd season also she dies
@@Phoenix-bq6ng how do you know?
Don’t forget “you”
@@musicandotherthingsbyrizz9764 haven't you sin the haunting of hill house and haunting of bly manor. Friend the writer has something to do with Victoria Pedretti's character he/she always gives her a dieing end😢😢 therefore I said it. It was just a joke...
Y’ll need to stop comparing this to hill house. These two are totally different stories each with their own perfect story! Hill house was about a family and this is about a love story. So if you gonna watch this masterpiece, you must forget about hill house!
THANK YOU! People love to compare. Can't a story stand on its own. I loved this ghost/love story
I hate how people is giving bad review about Bly Manor, when in fact it is a beautiful series as well. It is not a sequel of Hill House, this one is a different story. Is it as good as the Hill House? No. But is it good? YES! I was entertained watching this as much as Hill House.
agree
50 min of boring dream hopping no thank you.
This was absolute rubbish, I had to stop watching it at episode 3. It is nowhere near as good as The Haunting of Hill House, its utter garbage. I, and many others, had the whole thing sussed by episode 3. Ghosts need glasses apparently and so does anyone who thinks this is above a 3 out of 10. The accents were awful (being Scottish the Scottish one was incredibly bad), the kids were the only decent actors, the rest were cringe. The script was awful, the only think scary was the 80's waist high jeans. To anyone that thought this was remotely good, I wouldn't trust you to make a piece of toast. What absolute garbage of the highest order. Such a disappointment. You have to either be American or English isn't your first language to enjoy this utter drivel.
Oh! So I'm the only one who cried when Hannah's episode ended..
Yes
I cried when She was agreeing to go Paris with Owen. But she couldn't as she was dead already
I cried as well. I think she's the character that I feel the most sorry for.
@@iqrasayed.3197 how is she dead
@@jasmin2678 she was pushed in the well by the boy who was possessed by peter.
I actually enjoyed bly manor, and of course it’s not as good as hill house.. but these are two completely different stories so I understand why it would disappoint many people.. hill house tackles more about family relationships while bly manor focuses more on love and possession.. still I enjoyed both hill house and bly manor for their differences.. they’re good in their own way
I loved the parallel between the toxicity of Peter/Rebecca and the true love and sacrifice of Jamie/Dani
@@alexandraparker583 Jamie/Dani were demntd and looked more like sisters, there was nothingg love abt that.
Ch50304 hard disagree, that’s definitely an opinion in the minority. Hard not to assume there’s a specific element of that relationship that inherently bothers you lol
I just finished and i couldn't stop crying jfc 😭😭😭
Girl same I’m still crying 😭
I feel emotionally violated 😭 the ending literally poured all the salt onto my already open wound
Same😩
Me just now. 😭
Smh I thought I was just being so emotional 😭
After "the bent neck lady" phrase.. I guess "Perfectly splendid" will stick too in my head
What about "she sleeps, she wakes, she walks"💀💀💀
Is anyone else confused about how Viola walked the halls every night however never caught/killed the parents Charlotte and Dominc?? Or Henry when he slept with her? They legit slept in the room she went to every night?
Yes it doesn’t make any sense. I would have thought viola would have killed their parents.
I think she was walking into her daughters room, no? Thats how the little boy died, because she found him playing in the bed.
I believe they mentioned in the season that it was their holiday home. They didn’t live there, only came by from time to time.
It's not coming every night, I think it was every 2 weeks.
One of the first times we look at the bottom of the lake, there are remnants of two skeletons lying near the body of quint, I believe... I wondered who those were, but it could have been any of the other people viola took down there.
My review: its perfectly splendid
Just finished it, binged watched it. It was really good. Definatley more of a love story than a horror 😉
But Hill House was more drama than horror
That's exactly how I saw it. A lot less horror focused than Hi House, but I'm not complaining. There were so many heartbreaking stories in Bly Manor and I felt greatly for the characters. They went differently with this show and I appreciate that.
I mean it isn't lol. It's literally a horror story.
*SUCH A WASTE OF MY TIME.*
The switching back and forth is terrible.
It would’ve been absolutely splendid if I didn’t waste my time hoping it’d get better which it didn’t.
Same. Binged it the minute it came out.😍
Near the end I was so confused looking at Dani’s eyes because I didn’t ever notice before that she had heterochromia, it took me a while to realize that they meant to symbolize Viola taking over her body, what a crazy attention to detail.
It also happen to Miles when Pete possessed him.
Calvin Johnson Dani drowned herself
Calvin Johnson Viola unintentionally caused the curse being enraged over what happen to her, she didn’t care about the other ghost they just go caught in her web just by proximity. Remember she didn’t hunt anyone she was just trapped in the cycle of trying to find her daughter, you crossed her path you became collateral damage. This cycle was broken when Dani let her possessed her to free Flora from her grip but Viola was very much still around in her “sleeping” phase. When Viola “woke” Dani started seeing her in reflections and knew it was only a matter of time before she took over and killed anyone in her path “namely Jamie. So Dani killed herself and her “ghost” held Viola at the bottom of the lake until she forgot and faded away. Now Dani is the new less vengeful lady of the lake.
I think its a story about grief. I was thinking how each ghost character we meet (at least the major ones - so not including the plague doctor, little boy etc) is a stage of grief. Ms Grose is Denial. Because she doesnt realize she is dead for most of the show and therefore goes on thinking everything is fine (even imagining new outfits to wear). Rebecca is Anger. She is emotional over finding her body, she lashes out at Peter for what hes done. She feels guilt over what theyre doing to the kids. Peter is Bargaining. He is the only one who is actively trying to change his outcome. Viola is depression. She is the first one (and only one of the main ghosts) to become faceless. Aka she loses a sense of her self. She spends all her time either sleeping, or just "going through the motions". And Dani is acceptance. She willingly, on her own, accepts her fate. Even the whole "tucked away" parts I think fits because what's a thing we do when we experience loss. We reminisce. Good or Bad.
AWESOME observation. I think you’re absolutely right.
I think Hill house did the same thing when it came to having people represent stages of grief. Either way I love these series
The ending was just so damn sad and emotional. I was super annoyed the kids won’t remember the ultimate sacrifice Dani had made for them and everyone.
I’m not. Better for them not too. Live life trauma free.
This isn't a "new season" of Haunting at Hill House it's something different entirely with similar elements. If you're expecting it to be the same or feel like a continuation of the other you'll be disappointed.
I was going into the show knowing it was gonna be a completely different story yet same cast. It wasn't even a horror show like hill house. So why would it be even called the haunting of bly manor when literally the entire show was flashback and talking . barely anything exciting happened. I actually fell asleep twice trying to finish the season for a twist at the end. Would rate it 5 out of 10
It's a new season of 'The Haunting' Hill House was season 1 and bly Manor was season 2. I liked it and I thought it was good. When the one cook was talking to the housekeeper and all of a sudden yelled into the camera while looking right at it. It felt like he was yelling right at me and made me jump. I loved seeing many of the same actors and the children were great at acting as well. I just finished it yesterday (watched the whole thing) and already can't wait for the next installment of the series. I wonder what Flanagan will come up with to make us scared or sad. This season had me tear up a few times. The only complaint I have is the repeated dialogue in some of the scenes of the 'dreams'.
It’s an anthology series like American horror story.. I’d refer to it as a the haunting series now
Boy oh boy was i disappointed.... yawn slow boring & it was like watching a mash up of The Others & The Skeleton Key done poorly. Maybe I'd of liked it better if it hadn't dragged on so long.....zzzz zzzz
@@KaraMorassco it's actually not seasons. They are completely different. It's listed as two different titles, not like ahs.
Just finished it, love it. I’m not sure I like it more than Haunting Of Hillhouse, but I love it.
When I saw that shot of that little boy without his face sitting in the corner it made me cry so hard poor little boy that was so sad
I'm so confused why they kept calling him a boy? Like wasn't it revealed that it was the little girl viola took? And its wearing a dress the whole time ... I dont recall a boy being taken to the lake
Liv Grifith she forgot that she was looking for a girl. She just saw a boy and here it is! The memory came back of Viola with her daughter. So she took the boy thinking its a girl. Her girl.
I’m a person who doesn’t usually like horror movies, but two years ago I watched Hill House on a whim and I absolutely loved it. I love Bly Manor even more so because of the amazing story telling. I just finished the last episode and I’m still in tears, I am so glad they brought the story full circle. 10/10 for me
Regarding Dani's hand at the end: this plays into one of the earlier themes of the show -- that ghosts can only enter if you invite them.
Jamie does all these things (keeping the water in the bath and sink to look for her reflection, cracking the door for her, etc) in order to "invite" Dani to stay, to make sure she knows that she is loved and missed.
And whether that is her spirit hand or her physical hand, it shows that she still sticks by Jamie's side, that love and commitment can still remain strong despite the separation of death. I like to think that she even remains inside of her, kind of like when Peter's ghost touched Miles or whatever.
She cracks the door not because she expects Dani to come walking through it, but as a way to show Dani love. And Dani, watching over her, sees it, and rests her hand on her shoulder to help her sleep
Still feels depressing to me but I look at things from a more realistic perspective. Jamie wanted to see what Dani see, feel what she feel. This is why she almost sacrificed herself in the lake but Dani won’t let her because she love her too much. I also think that Dani’s hand at the end was a symbolic message to the theme of the show which is “Just because someone dies, don’t mean they’re not still there”. It message to say that although Dani is dead she will always be with Jamie.
Well thank you, I’m crying again
Best Character on each series
Hill house - Theo
Bly Manor - Hannah
Calvin Johnson omg same im so upset they killed my favorite character Her story was so interesting too how she was stuck in a loop and stuff
Flanagan did that again, however bly manner wasn't scary
I don’t think it was meant to be. If you define scary as jump scares than Mike Flanagan isn’t for you. Hill House wasn’t really scary either.
Its not a ghost story its a love story
I remember, Flannigan is such a master director. The feels of both is beyond however Hill House struck me the most.
Hill House scared me in a classic horror movie way, but Bly disturbed tf outta me. “That bottomless, icy terror” is the line that stuck with me because my god did it describe exactly how their hells made me feel. Bly evoked a different kind of fear from me. I totally get why it didn’t hit other ppl as hard tho, especially if you’re looking for the same constant thrill of Hill House
hill house was not scary either.
To be honest... this made me cry a lot more than Hill House. It's not as scary, yes, but I think it's more heartfelt and universal.
I'm still crying from the ending , some things i figured out from the beginning but it was still wonderfully written and the moments where things were revealed didnt cheapen the story, and i loved all the characters
I just finished it and it’s 3 am jikes.
Out of all the ghosts, I found the faceless child to be the creepiest one. When Flora put a tiny doll face on him, that was nightmare fuel.
I’m confused on how hannah was dead before dani showed up then how was she being touched by other characters like owen that were alive since peter and rebecca couldnt touch each other
They explained that Hannah was trying to ignore the fact that she was dead.. but even that is just an example of bad writing
Peter knew he was dead. HannaH didn't, she ignored it. Remember the little moment right after Peter was killed, he didn't know yet so he could grab the doll, then when he realised, he couldn't anymore. That's why Hannah could grab things and could be touched yet she never ate anything. One weird thing is she could drink the wine though
@@16Meily I belive the bottle was empty. Usually, when you drink something out of a bottle, your lips get a bit wet from the liquid. Hannah's lips didn't and she never seemed to swallow etheir. Don't quote me though, I'm just speaking out of something I noticed as I watched but didn't verify.
Ya also did Jamie and Owen realize that they were interacting with the ghost of Hannah all this time...I think I must have missed it
Because she was in denial. Once she Acknowledges that she’s dead she will start fading.
Throughout the family’s stay in the house before the mother and the father died, how come both parents never noticed the lady from the lake even though she leaves traces of her footprints at night, they never really had cross paths with the lady from the lake??? even for a midnight snack lmao
Viola didn't intentionally nor directly target anyone. She would just simply walk up to the house and then walk back not remembering what for. It was only anyone that was unlucky enough to get in her path. The kids kept safe as Flora seemed to have caught on to Viola's spirit lurking around at night. She even told Dani to stay in her bed for this reason and was cross when she didn't do so. So I guess both kids knew how to stay out of Viola's way.
Scene I don't get was why would Miles and Flora; supposedly possessed by Peter and Rebecca, lock Dani inside the closet ?
What purpose did that serve them ?
@@MrHaz1993 i think flora and miles lock dani because at that time, viola is awake and she's walking around the house. so the kids lock dani up to prevent her from seeing viola.
if im not mistaken, flora and miles know viola is around because the doll that represents her (the one with a white gown and long black hair) is moving. it was supposed to be under the cupboard (or table? i forgot), but at that time the doll moves to infront of flora's bed. thats why the kids lock dani up for a long time, because they're waiting for viola to get back to the lake
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What about the time Miles jumped behind her when playing hide and seek ?
MrHaz1993 i feel like that was peter just being a twat
I believe it was their holiday home. They didn’t live there, only came by here from time to time.
The Older version of Owen looks younger than the original Owen and Older Henry looks about 90 😂... they both look nothing like the original actors.
Lol I was thinking that too! I thought maybe the creators did that to throw the viewers for a loop so they wouldn’t figure it out too quickly. Also, older Jaime’s accent did not match younger Jaime’s accent.
@@CLHQ1692 Yeah that was to imply that she had obviously changed her life and lost most of her accent but you could still hear bits of it coming through at times.
Jay El ahhhh I see!
I agree that Older Henry looked much too old in the future scene, but young and older Owen was played by the same actor, Rahul Kohli, so I’m not sure how he could look so different from himself...
Danni.brooke check again, he played him up until the wedding which makes it even more strange lol
Whenever I see Owen, I remember my sir who looked exactly like him. We were very close. He always helped me in my rough times at school. But right before the pandemic he fell into depression and later took his own life during the pandemic. I remember him every single day. RIP Roshan sir.
Bless him. 🥺🥺🥺 RIP
I took the ending much differently I took it as Dani’s ghost still being with Jamie even if Jamie doesn’t know it I personally took Dani being at the bottom of the lake to mean Dani is dead
Yes, she is dead. She drowned herself in that lake because she almost strangled Jamie
I kind of took at as Jaime passed away in that couch and we see Dani coming to her to be reunited in the afterlife.
At first I thought it meant that Dani was always with her even if she can't see her but I saw people say it meant that Dani came back. My poor heart can't deal with them never being back together so I want to believe in this interpretation lol
I just finished this and I couldn't stop tearing up at the last scene 😭😭
Same I’m still crying 😭
I interpreted the ending a little differently, that although Jamie can’t see her, Dani always remains by her side. Her spirit is with Jamie but her body is protecting Bly. This was a slow burner, it was very hard to top Hill House! And seeing the same cast members from Hill House made me nostalgic. But it was still a beautiful story!! It came through in the end.
Kinda depressing for someone to live like that for the rest of their lives. Most people would just move on and find happiness somewhere else.
I agree with your review. Hill House blew everyone's expectations so Bly Manor was expected to carry the same if not better horror and drama standards. I think Bly Manor is still good but not better than Hill House. If only Bly Manor came prior to Hill House, I don't think it will be this disappointing.
I really wish people would stop comparing Hill House and Bly Manor. They’re completely different stories but with the same few actors. I loved Bly Manor, it’s so heart breaking but still a bit scary and frustrating at times. I hated Peter though! Hannah and Rebecca deserved so much better and poor Owen 💔
Chris well yea no duh but I legit saw people on Twitter saying how they wanted the Crain family back telling this story when their story was already over. This is a new story with new characters. It deserves better than to be compared to Hill house. And they don’t even pop up under each other like how American Horror Story’s series is so I don’t even count this as season 2
We can't fault people for comparing the two because its created from the same person who made Hill house. Loved both by the way, but I wouldn't lose energy over this because its pointless trust me I've been on both ends from books, games, movies, etc. If pieces are related there will always be a comparison whether we want to or not.
I kinda felt for Peter. He had so many flaws but to see the abuse he had dealt with from his parents still broke my heart.
Actors AND actresses. I won't stand for gender erasure. We need to embrace our differences instead of trying to erase them.
@@jaynekarinova256 Abuse does not excuse manipulating and controlling someone. He was a shit person.
Did someone notice that dani’s left eye and right eye in episode 9 are in different colors? indicating that she’s possesed by lady in the lake?
Yes! Such a wonderful intricate detail!
The same thing happens when Peter possesses Miles (episode 7).
Hey i have a question. Why did the kids locked Dani in a room. What did they want? Did peter and rebecca made them?
@@lidia1544 To protect her. They knew the lady from the lake would be wandering the house at night. So they lock her there to protect her.
Lidia Miraç no. I think its because they knew that the lady in the lake is going to be walking around the aisle. Therefore they acted as if the door is jammed.
Grief is very central to this season of the show. Grief is their ghost and it is what haunts the living and even the dead(Viola grieving over jewels, silk and her daughter). Grief thrives on memories, and when grieving one often finds themselves recounting memories we hold onto dearly or the ones that had changed something fundamental in us. So the idea of "tucking away into memories" is quite poetically significant. When tucked away into a memory, the memory becomes a ghost and also saves us from the larger looming one- the grief.
The episode about Hannah was a clusterfuck of time warps lol.
Basically, as I'm writing this I'm rewatching her episode..Hannah's storyline is the one I still don't quite get yet.
roxxylala26 who killed her?
@@aoifec3660 Miles possessed by Peter
@@roxxylala26 if you finish the series you would understand hannahs episode she is just goign through past memories because she is dead same as peter and his mum
@@Teawos98 Yeah I get that but it was such a cluster of memories all bunched together, it's confusing at first. Btw how was she able to appear human like to Dani minutes before she had died?
6:35 Dani knows the words because when she was tied up in the attic she saw Flora and Miles use those words to invite Rebecca and Peter into them.
Enjoyed it. Still letting it digest. While it’s unfair to compare Bly House to Hill House, I preferred the frenetic, intense opening of Hill House scared the crap out of me and really set the tone of the entire Season. Not a deal breaker. Bly House was a deep, rich story about not being able to love the ones you want. ❤️ 👻
Spolier alert! Did anyone else think that Jamie had passed away in that last scene, which is why Dani returned?
Nahhh
Nope. Spoiler alert 🚨 Dani never returned because she was always there. That’s the hidden message of the show.
@@WesternXC so Dani never went to America to start a new life with Jamie .it was made up?
I’m confused about the wedding. If that was Flora and Miles and all their closest friends wouldn’t they realize the story was about them even if they didn’t remember the ghosts or the names were changed? Like they had a massive summer home, dead parents, a dead nanny, a lake with a graveyard, a single uncle who raised them, dead housekeeper, etc and this girl is like “lol she has the same middle name as me.”
Jamie could change a lot of things in the story. She patiently noticed to the woman "you do not find the manor with same name in England..." She wondered to bring the main idea of the story, she doesn't try to force them remind traumatic childhood.
The director of the series was poetic and consistent with his treatment of "ghosts" in both the seasons of the show. While in the first season, "ghosts" were shown to be our own fear, regret, denial or anger, in the second season the "ghosts" were largely our grief.
The overbearing grief that swallows us, the grief we don't get over of.
Dani's grief of losing her fiancé was the bespectacled ghost that haunted her, Viola's grief of having lost all her jewels, silk and her family haunted her even beyond her death, Hannah's grief of losing her life and the consequent denial of it, Henry's ghost had been his own alter ego that manifested after grieving the death of his brother and his wife.
It was so hauntingly sad.
I loved this story so much!! I have a fat crush on all of the women in this show. They’re all so beautiful.
@@Chris-rg6nm where do I explicitly say I am straight I’m confused lol
@@Chris-rg6nm no love :)
@@Chris-rg6nm here’s the crazy thing, I’m bisexual!
I wish it was scarier, it's not at all. The acting is great, the kids are impressive and the story is charming. But it would be so much better with more horror scenes like Hill House had. I will give it an 8 out of 10
Hill House really did set the bar high, huh? I mean, I agree with you, I wish they d done something closer to Hill House, but they were evidently going for something different this season. I think if this season was a standalone series, it would ve worked better, but I m still quite excited to see what's next.
@@Chris-rg6nm it's a story for everyone
its a gothic love story. more of a psychological horror. i'm honestly glad it wasn't that scary, that just ruins it for me.
Glad I'm not the only one who wishes it was scarier. Or I just watch too much of paranormal movies/series/UA-cam videos 😂
If you’re watching Haunting for horror than you’re watching it for the wrong reasons. The first season wasn’t even supposed to be purely horror, it was to show the complexities of humanity and familial relationships.
This series should be a text book for all the new generation horror movies. You don't need jumpscares to scare people. You need an amazing story and set up the horror elements instead of forcing it every 10-15 minutes. Absolutely brilliant.
I found it a bit disappointing because although it had a good premise, there were too many very long dialogue scenes that were too stretched out, repetitive and not scary but more like soap opera. I really enjoyed episodes 5,6,7 because they were more related to the ghosts whereas 2,3,4 all are based on flashbacks which were not scary and very boring. Also the lake lady episode was unnecessarily long and the dialogue often too cheesy. A good premise but was not well done in terms of dialogue and duration. Also the finale very disappointing...
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Interesting reading all the different opinions on this show vs Hill House. I think there were some scary scenes in Bly, mostly scenes where the lady from the lake (viola) would appear out of nowhere and start chocking her victims with the ominous music in the background. But that was it mostly, nothing really made my jaw drop like compared to when you realized the bent-neck lady was Nell in Hill House. Wish there were more scenes like this in Bly, and as sad as Hill House was, this felt even more depressing, as beautiful as it still was. Both shows were great, but IMO, Hill House was a more fun viewing experience.
beating the masterpiece that is hill house is impossible imo and I'm glad they didn't necessarily *try* to do that, bc it will usually only lead to disappointment. they did something different with bly manor and I think it's a great way of telling a story that is hauntingly beautiful without trying to one-up hill house. but, I do agree with you, I never really had a jaw-dropping moment like nellie's reveal or one that scared the shit out of me like the dude with the cane looking underneath luke's bed, and I really wish we could've gotten some moments like that! but otherwise, the series is a fantastic sequel
i wanted to hear how Flora’s and Mile’s parents died
Me too. And why there bodies were never recovered? Also what did Peter have over hannah? He threatened her a few times with spilling the beans, but we never got to find out what the beans were.
Melina Violt right it never finished that story
Tiana Lanise Henry even said that no one knows how they actually died only he
Good point. Feel many plot holes that were not explained this season. Why did the parents not see the lady of the lake all those years? How did they die? How did the dolls move in her dollhouse?
@@infinitesoul9853 Well their bedroom was in a whole nother wing than the room she would wander to and she only came like twice a week. It's still a stretch but I think that's what they were going for. I'm still wondering about the dollhouse too. And how did everyone know the (I assume) old song Viola sang to her daughter? And what are the rules for the ghosts? Since only the kids could see the faceless ones. Did Peter sent that drawing to Miles or was it really Flora? So many questions...
Just finished, I’m devastated I can’t feel anything Nobody touch me 😐 I never cried this much since lexa🤧 Nobody warned me that I was supposed to be mentally stable before I watch this
Let us know your thoughts on the series and if you agree with our thoughts or not.
Can’t tell why the chef and uncle Henry at the weddings remember the story
Hey heavy spoilers is this show any great? I watch little bit of season 1 but I felt it was kinda boring
Phantom Alpha I’m watching it, so messed up, just crazy
I enjoyed this story too. I love both actually. The Haunting of Hill House was more scarier while this one wasn't that scary but with love in it. I give this 9/10, episode 8 was so sad for me (I cried a bloody dam). The haunting of Hill House was easily a 9.5/10 for me. I do understand that the second story isn't the expectation of the first story, however the second story is incredible good actually, really a good storyline and how they put the storyline together.
"Our moments fall around us like rain or snow or confetti." - Nell
Bro, Mike Flanagan better let Victoria Pedretti Rest if he gone to make another Haunting House/Manor with her.
Personally, I cried more over the loss Hannah (though she was already lost), and the future with Owan that was so unfairly taken away. It just really crushed my heart. They were so sweet together, and they could've been so happy. With Dani and Jamie, when Dani died, I was less sad about their relationship ending, more bittersweet, solely because they had gotten a good few years to live with and love each other. It was a tragic loss, too early ofc, but they still had their time. But Owan and Hannah didn't get that. Sure they had cherished time together when they worked at Bly, but its not the same as living a life together. The death of Hannah was the death of a dream, and had the overwhelming feeling of regret over missed opportunities.
Is it just me or did anyone else hope Viola would find her daughter or a descendent of her daughter at the end and find peace as a twist?
The characters' development in this show was really what made me like it even more. As Flora would say, "Perfectly Splendid"
Damned Netflix told me this was a horror show and in the end I got a heartwrenching gay love story oh my tears can't handle this
Right?!
Honestly loved this show, not as good as hill house though. The last episode specifically just dragged on and on. In comparison, hill house rapped up the show and gave us an epilogue showing us where all the characters are now after the events of the show within about five minutes or so. This show on the other hand, took up almost a whole episode. I feel like it would have been better if they left what happened to Dani up to our imagination and just had Jamie say that they were together until Viola came back with no more elaboration. And the wedding scene where they showed who was who would have been much better if they only revealed who Flora was and left it up to the viewer to go back and figure out who was present at the wedding. Then, they could’ve ended it with Dani and Jamie together in the end like in the show. I think this would’ve allowed more imagination with the ending for the viewer and wouldn’t have given us all the answers. Overall a good show but my main gripe is definitely with the ending.
Alright, time to wake, walk, sleep and rewatch Haunting of Hill House.
Neon Sugar HAHAHAHAHA GOD THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT WAS REPEATED IN VIOLA’S EP
@@jeevikakannan4237 tell me bout it. It was the only true haunting of bly manor.
Neon Sugar aGREED. and ofc, not forgetting our dear Flora repeating “perfectly splendid” a million times 💀
What about the number of times we see Hannah in that memory thing where she interviews Owen 10,000 times.
Marvie Ed AHHHHH DAT TOO OHMY can’t forget that
Anyone else wondering why Peter (in Miles body) tried to kill Jamie? When he was wobbling the ladder. I can understand with Hannah cause he became frustrated with the situation and she was annoying him. But why hurt Jamie for no reason
Anyone get a Sin City vibe from Dani's dead boyfriend?
Jesus bro, give us a chance to watch it first 😂😂😂 saving this to “my watch later”
My bad haha, hidden ghosts is dropping later and that’s a bit less spoilery
😭😭
Then don’t watch or read
Did anyone else notice the little easter eggs from hill house incorporated in bly ? The blue stripped pajamas? The forever house ? The use of lights/candle light, hidden ghosts (obvious one ) door knobs , repetitive of 5 being the safe number as 7 was Likes safe number in hill house, bent neck lady parallel to the lady of the lake
The thing I love about this series (both the Haunting of Hill House and the Haunting of Bly Manor) is that it does such a phenomenal job of addressing horror that’s real. True horror lies in our every day lives - horrors like death, guilt, regret, denial, losing one’s innocence, fear of the unknown, etc. These are our theoretical “ghosts” that we avoid, fear and even hide from... but eventually, everyone must face their ghosts.
Beautifully written story, wonderful cast, gripping cinematography, superb directing... I really enjoyed it. If people can hate this show for any reason, then I can love it for every reason.
Anyone else made it into a drinking game every time the little girl says “perfectly splendid” or was it just me?
Damn I should've
Why am I watching this without watching the show first?
Spoilers is life.
People try to compare this to Hill House and they say it isn’t as good. However, I don’t look at it this way. I just see two different stories that were made “splendidly”.
Two ideas that got me by the end of the story were "love" and "living in the moment". That was what separated Dani and Viola, in the end. Viola was about planing the future and attaching to feelings and people, and stuff that happened in the past. She loved, yes, but in a selfish way, much like Peter. And she couldn't accept the ideia of death, much like Peter also. Dani, however, managed to find a way of living that was about living the moment and enjoying the love and good things she had in her life. When the moment came, she accepted death as the way of getting relief and ending evil, not perpetuating it. Most of all, she allowed the lives of those she had loved to go on, knowing that what they've had had was enough. The beauty of that final scene, to me, is that Dani has actually lived on - not like a vengeful ghost, but a peaceful one. She watches over her loved one, and her presence is felt like a subtle, gentle thing, not brutal and resentful. In the end, it was Jamie's love, and her memories about Dani, that brought her back from the curse and freed both her and - I assume - Bly Manor. Let's remember: Viola's family wanted to keep her in the past and forget about her, afraid of what she could do, even in death. Dani's friends and lover, however, wanted to remember her and honour her life. In the end, that's what, in my eyes, made all the difference.
I didnt even see her hand while watching and thats why I thought the ending sucked. makes more sense now
I feel like they purposefully made these two completely different machines in the scare department precisely so they couldn’t be properly compared. Bly felt much more atmospheric in terms of horror, as in it was a heavy consistent fear that was often the pay out and not always some jump scare or horrifying imagery. I mean it is a love story and not a huge block buster roller coaster, like say the conjuring or insidious. I think this was honestly the strategy from the get go, don’t be Hill House, be something else. If it didn’t have the “The Haunting of-“ attached to it the comparisons between the two would be very minimal beyond being a Netflix show with a few similar cast members and Flanagan. So I think that’s something to keep in mind when looking at this.
"It's good, but not as good as Hill House" seems to be the consensus about this series. My biggest beef with it, other than the pacing, is how some characters are just utterly vile. Peter is the worst of it but the interpretation I got of Dani's ex-fiance's death is that he literally told her to go fuck herself and whined "why are you doing this to me?" because she wouldn't marry him. He felt entitled to her in the way many men do and couldn't accept that she was a lesbian. I know it's set in the 80's but it just felt awful and mean-spirited to me.
I hoped She could see her at least once in the end😭😭
Her sacrifice was totally forgotten.
Not by Jamie.
I watched the whole season today...absolutely no regrets❤
can someone explain to me why miles or flora wouldn’t question jamie about the story? as they got older did they just completely forget the manor as a whole? also how owen said it’d be better to never tell them what happened here but she did tell the story anyways?? also the bride tells jamie that her middle name is flora,,, so did henry change her name after everything happened??? someone help me out i’m lost lol
That's what I thought... she also said her middle name was flora. How would she not realize that every single name was used that she knew.
Jamie changed everyone’s name for the sake of the story. Even Bly Manor isn’t actually called Bly Manor.
Thomas Nguyen But did the character say that she was changing names for the story? If so, I missed it. I know at the end she said she used a diff name for Bly Manor.
@@rubyrayne8 i guess you have to imply that she changed the names. It wouldn't make much sense that none of the characters would catch on to their names being used in the story
Ruby Rayne It’s heavily implied since she used the name Flora(middle name).
I ugly cried at the end....snot and everything 😭. Appreciate it for what it is....it’s not quite Hill House but nothing will ever be.
victoria pedretti in season 1: bent neck lady
victoria pedretti in season 2: lady in the lake
When her boyfriend died, he says he got "knocked over" haha wwwwwhhhhaaaaaattttttt
I know! I laughed! Knocked over. Or hit by a bus.
Got to agree with your assessment at the end. It's brilliantly acted and shot but feels very disjointed and has some quite serious pacing issues at times. I think Hill House did an amazing job of being able to tell the Crane's stories while also uncovering aspects of the other characters stories all interwoven with one another. Bly Manor has some good stories but they're not very well connected and are basically mini spin off stories not interconnected with the others.
Viola is the literal personification of depression.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Loved the haunting of Bly manner! I felt a few things weren’t explained though, for example why did the kids lock dani in the wardrobe? Was it to hide her from the lady of the lake? Have I just answered my own question? Lol 😂
Yes u have 😂
@@shabinamahmed5402 haha 😂 i also felt the whole doll house was kind of left unexplained - I’m guessing little ghost boy moved the figures about to warn Flora about the lady of the lakes whereabouts, but I kind of wish they covered it more! Also I’m surprised when the story was being told the kids didn’t click on to the story, and also Flora completely lost her English accent!
@@meghan1348 yes I thought the same 🤷🏽♀️
The Owen at the wedding was miscast. Looks to different and actually younger than the Bly Manor Owen.
so viewers cant figure it out who they are so fast in the first episode of the show
Ya, I totally agree with you. The haunting of hill house is a master piece. This 2nd season, I actually dozed off a few times was a tad bit disappointed.