True, but if they were there at night more and happened to get in the way of Viola they wouldn’t have been immune 😂. She would have choked them out all the same.
owen doesnt sleep there, he tends on his mom, he goes home early sometimes, and not joining them for dinner, as said on the show on an earlier episode. we only see a few night scene where he goes there but not the whole night does he stays. Jamie's room isnt inside the house. there was also a scene at the bonfire, where Jamie and owen goes home after Owen asked Hannah to go with him at Paris. re-watching it a couple of times. i also find out that viola's pathway on the way up was charlottes room. so ummm... they didnt clear that up. i need an explanation on that. and i agree with Mex CrownWarr. they are usually at the kitchen and garden most of the time. they werent really in the book to begin with.
Hannah's death is the saddest tho... At least dani experienced being with her love one while hannah died without even making sure that owen knows she love him And what's even sadder is hannah was forgotten by the 2 kids she saw as her family
I think Rebecca's is even sadder because she realizes Peter manipulated her into death and he made her feel the drowning because he didn't want to (and she tried to save herself but couldn't, made me think of Naya Rivera). But Hannah's is a close, close second. Hannah and Rebecca both were too trusting of Peter (even though Hannah knew not to be, and she should've known from what Miles was saying on the way to the well that it was really him). But Peter 100% killed both of them tragically.
hannah's? viola's death wins by a landslide. she used to be extremely close to her baby and would did anything for her, until she got sick and couldn't watch her child grow up. she knew she was going to die soon so she decided to take all of her expensive items and leave them for her daughter in a trunk, which is the only memory her daughter would have of her. then when she was lying in bed her jealous, aggressive sister held her hand over her mouth until she died. after that perdita tried to get into the trunk and sell/wear everything she had left for her daughter. little did she know that when viola died her ghost went into the trunk. viola had been waiting and when someone finally opened the trunk she thought it we be her daughter. instead it was her sister, so viola choked her. after that she went back into the trunk and waited for years, for the day that her daughter would be able to wear everything she had been left. she woke up thinking that the trunk was being opened, but in reality she was thrown into the lake and realized that soon after. every night, she would wake up and walk to her old bedroom trying to find her daughter. most of the time there was no one, but when there was someone in the way of her attempting to reach her daughter she would strangle them and drag them back to the lake. she would go back to sleep, then wake up forgetting what happened. doing it all over again. my point is that all viola ever wanted was her baby. she just wanted to be with her but she couldn't. instead she was killed betrayed and then ditched, so that's why i believe viola's death was the saddest.
Please don't I'm hardcore cringing from hearing that too many times. Like someone give Flora a thesaurus please for the love of God so she can use any word but splendid. Lol
You see, I disagree with you on the first bit. In my opinion the “ghost” dani saw was just her guilt manifesting itself as her ex-fiancé, not his actual spirit. Similar to that of hill house when Shirley saw her guilt manifesting itself as the man she had an affair with.
Definitely. Bly Manor is all about memory, being haunted by our memories, how our memories change over time, and how fleeting memory is. Dani is haunted by the memory of what happened, that’s why Edmund’s glasses glow like they did right before he died. Hannah has lost her memory (of her death), but she also could be a description of the terror of dementia. She keeps getting lost in her memories, finds herself lost and confused, not knowing where or when she is. This series is all about how terrifying our memories can be, how they can haunt us and destroy us.
I agree. Dani's ghost is so similar to Uncle Henry's ghost. They just obviously seemed like manifestations of guilt to me the way they followed their victims from location to location.
I've also seen an even deeper read of this that the ghost of Dani's ex is actually her guilt not just about his death but also about being unable to be straight for him and his family in a heteronormative patriarchal world. He doesn't stop haunting her until she fully accepts her identity as a lesbian by committing to her love for Jamie.
Technically Jamie and Owen were haunted by a ghost. Hannah. They just didn't know she was a ghost. And Peter possessing Miles interacted with them too.
The creator of this show is a genius. Like this show is just so well written. Every scene gives you something to think about and to feel and it’s like the entire show is a huge puzzle that your putting together. Seriously amazing work 👏🏻❤️
But I think she did know. If you watch the first scene of the first episode, it’s like a continuation of the last scene of the last episode. We see older Jamie waking up and she looks to her shoulder as if she knew Dani’s hand was there. So I think Jamie does know.
It’s all Flora’s fault. Love the child but if she didn’t start screaming her head off and refusing to follow Dani, who literally has spent the whole series taking care of Flora and protecting her, even though she already saw and knew what happened to Miles plus Peter and Rebecca’s plan to tuck her and her brother away.
True, it rubbes me the wrong way that the kids just forgot about her, and her sacrifice wasn't aknowlodge or even honored by those who benefited from it, except por Jamie.
The whole show revolves around love and the power of love. I think the reason that Jamie and Owen were never haunted by the original spirits of Bly was because they were being “haunted” by Hannah, and Hannah loved them both so much that her love protected them both. However, neither of them truly escaped the haunting. Owen lost the love of his life, and so did Jamie, but only after being haunted by the Lady of the Lake WITHIN Dani. And to add onto that, Jamie and Owen are now both being haunted by the loss of their loved ones and that’s the worst kind of haunting.
Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they don’t live at Bly Manor. They’re not a live-in au pair like Dani or a live-in housekeeper like Hannah. Remember that Viola only walks around at night and both of them are usually gone by then.
technically jamie and owen were not haunted, probably worse got the person they loved the most taken away. idk what's a crueler fate, be haunted by ghosts or have the one thing you love be taken away from you
Jaime and Owen were not really hunted by a ghost in the way the others were because they kind of let go the past. in somehwhere i read this season was about forgetting the past, letting go the past. Owen was hunted by his mother but the moment she died he said he was happy because she was long ago gone and Jaime the same. She let go her past, focused in flowers, etc and continued living while the others didn't. Owen and Jaime were kind of happy about letting go. The others couldn't stop thinking about the past. Dany with her fiance, hannah with her hudsband i think, the kids with their parents... Even at the end Jaime is still waiting for Dany i feel it's more of the same. THey let go the past (kind of why she tells the story in the way she does), but she couldn't let go her love for dany.
Hannah’s intense episode where she keeps travelling from one memory to the other is for me a metaphor on how she mulls the most. Jamie and Owen also found a way to process their emotions through gardening and cooking, an outlet instead of justing thinking things over and over.
In a way Peter was right. "They were just the help". They paid the price for it and after everything they have been through, the family was able to move on with their lives :(
I saw a couple of people in other comment sections say that they think Dani wasn't tied to the grounds of Bly so it's entirely possible that she really had visited Jamie in the hotel room. Viola was the one creating the supernatural pull at Bly, and once she was contained within Dani, that pull was gone. Even in Dani's death, Viola could still be contained by Dani's spirit. After all, Viola hadn't overtaken Dani by the time Dani had drowned herself, so Dani was the one who had the most control, and her death could have locked that control in. Since Dani would be the one calling the shots, she might be able to leave Bly. Jamie was assuming Dani would walk the ground like Viola had, losing her memories and all that, because that was the only data she had to go by. She could have been totally wrong in her assumption. This is just a theory and I have no idea if any of this has been confirmed by the creators, but it's a fun headcanon.
Your theory matches what the creator said in an interview. The last scene where Dani's hand is shown, it means that she was with Jamie the whole time but didn't want to "hunt" her.
surprised I haven’t seen this mentioned, Jamie is an unreliable narrator, especially at the end after Dani dies. She doesn’t actually know that Dani walks the grounds of Bly, she just assumes so because Dani’s not there to tell her otherwise. I think they left open the possibility that that was just Dani’s body, she was merged with Viola so she can control the gravity too and can leave and watch over Jamie wherever she goes. Either way, it’s an amazing story, my mental health just needs to believe my theory 😂
I wish they introduced Viola earlier in the season (not revealing that she is the lady in the lake). I feel like the episode of hers should’ve been spread out a bit so we could process this “evil” character more.
Agree! They gave too much screentime / importance to Rebecca & Peter when the main haunting of Bly Manor was caused by Viola originally lol it felt like the climax & ending were at the same point which was episode 8 & 9 idk if i even make sense sjsksksks but anyway, dani & jamie's story is so heartbreaking 😭 but their love is so amazing 😢💖💙🌈
Nah, i think viola was only scary when I didn't understand her. I liked the amount of fear she inspired beforehand and then the juxtaposition of "oh, viola's just doing her thing" afterwards.
@@blue1eyed9bee I agree with you but I wish they would’ve developed both “the lady of the lake” and Viola as two separate characters so it would be a climactic reveal that viola was the lady of the lake.
But why did Flora not get out of the bed immediately after Viola dropped Dani? Then they would both run away, and everyone would be safe and Dani wouldn't die.. :(
@@melo7825 I don't think she remembers bly very well because she was tucked away alot. She always thought it was a game. Not only that, she was tucked away one last time before almost drowning with Viola. Think if it like passing out drunk. You don't really remember the moments that led up to you passing out. But it's not alcohol that's causing the bit of memory loss she experienced but the trauma itself causing the lack of memory.
I thought viola should have had more of backstory, even though she’s got a whole episode, it was still incomplete to me. I mean peter had more of a well rounded evil person backstory than her. The uncle should have been the one making the huge sacrifice at the end because he is their family not Dani, like damn!
I have watched the whole thing in one weekend and I am 100% addicted- I don’t even like it just because it’s a horror- it’s the characters and storylines eg Jamie and Dani, and little Flora’s, which I fell in love with
Interestingly, out of all the main characters, Jamie and Owen were the only ones who didn’t live through negative emotions due to a breakup or bereavement for most of the time since the beginning of the story timeline. •Hannah was going through a marriage breakup. •Henry was experiencing breakup, guilt due to his affair, the death of his brother and his wife and abandoning his daughter and nephew. (Maybe such enormous guilt is what made him see a ghost of himself outside Bly) •The children were experiencing bereavement.(also maybe because they are children) •Dani was haunted by her fiancé’s death. •Peter was haunted by his past which made him insecure about his relationship and prompted him to plot, steal and run away. •Jessel was angry at Peter because she thought he ran away without her. Maybe since they (Owen and Jamie) weren’t experiencing that sense of guilt, betrayal, anger and sadness they weren’t able to see the ghosts created by Viola whom’s curse and its gravity was fuelled by such strong emotions. Or at least that’s what I think.🤷🏻♂️
That's a really good theory, but you could also maybe say it's their connection to the dead. I don't think Hannah saw anything before she died. Then again by the time Viola took Flora they could clearly all see her. I'm pretty confused about what Hannah, Owen, & Jamie knew prior to Dani coming there.
@@XleahrachelleX that sounds really plausible.👌 I thought Hannah was able to see Peter just before he pushed her into the well. In that scene she realised he was dead, which makes me think if it was just a memory and if so, why she was pushed into the well in the first place if she couldn’t see Peter when she was alive. It a confusing show.😂
@@AA-ji7xf I saw a comment that said it's because Jamie and Owen didn't sleep there at night and I think that's probably a big factor. And Hannah implies that she sleeps through the night by saying she wakes up to the footprints sometimes, so if she doesn't leave her room at night she would've never seen Viola on her path. But with how often the ghosts appear during the day, it's hard to believe any one person in that house for years didn't see anything. They would like, hide in corners and shadows, some theories that the plague doctor and doll face ghost watched over things (I think he moved the dolls to show where they were). And well, the doctor was a someone that helped people. But yeah, as good as this show was, it's left me with many questions 😄
Loved this!! I think one could argue that Owen & Jaime were haunted. Even though Hannah was unaware that she was a ghost, she was attached to Owen because she loved him. He unknowingly helped keep her grounded & momentarily live out the fantasy of what their lives could have been. As for Jaime, as mentioned, she's an unreliable narrator & changed some details. She also states at the beginning that it's not her story. So maybe she was haunted in her own way by the past she mentioned in her monolog in the garden, but she chose not to share that because the story she's telling isn't about her personal journey
Yeah the ending to this was horrible, seeing dani and jamie so in love, then seeing them grow and when she saw dani in the lake i sobbed so hard the bit where she ran the bath and waited for dani at the end so sad and then u saw danis hand on her shoulder. Ive never cried so much, the acting and everything was amazing, the music as well makes it more sad. I just wished Jamie and dani got a happy ending 😩☹️
Who knows? Maybe she is? They did move after all. It is entirely possible. And unlike Flora/Miles and Rebecca/Peter, Danny and Viola had absolutely no connection to one another other than a love for a child. So my theory is that, someone, deep inside, Viola heard Danny say “it’s you, it’s me, it’s us” and her blood sparked because Danny was her blood. It’s why she accepted the invitation. That’s my theory anyway
@@procrastinating_author that is how i like to see it too. Isobel and her father moved to America. Is it that much of stretch to assume that dani is her descendant and got pulled to bly manor by Viola's gravity. That way viola gets what she always wanted too.
@@procrastinating_author Well that’s just purely a theory bc most likely it’s bc Dani reminded Viola of something from her past. If you remember, in the episode about Viola, she was the first person to say “it’s you, it’s me, it’s us” as she said it to her daughter. So when Dani said that she was reminded of who she was for a brief moment
@@printlinks8291 Huh, that is an interesting theory. I mean it was said that both parties have to want it in order to inhabit the other. So why exactly did Viola want it and why didn't she take over Dani's body the same way Peter did Miles?
It's also like cosmic because Dani wouldn't have met Jamie if Perdita didn't kill Viola. Rebecca probably wouldn't have died and Dani wouldn't get the position at Bly. 🤔
@@kh-ze5ub thought about that and maybe Rebecca would have realised the toxicity of their relationship and let him move to America alone or figured out he was embezzling and turned him into the police. 🤷🏽♀️
Jaime loved plants more than people, and Owen loved food more than people (maybe apart from Hannah) and so they couldn't be possessed by ghosts. That's my take on it. Regardless, what a brilliant ghost/love story!
It wasn’t Henry’s ghost that was haunting Dani. It was the memory of Henry’s death that haunted her! She had suffered a traumatic experience and it was that that followed her around.
@Taylor R'stephens she only followed the one path, lake, master bedroom, lake. Be standing in that path like Peter, the Priest, the plague doctor, the little boy, presumably the soldier, and technically Danny, and you die. If it weren’t for Flora, Danny would have been dragged into the lake just as Peter had been and I think if Flora had been in front of Danny, and not behind her, Flora would be the one getting choked but yes she’s a little girl and that’s who Viola was looking for, but she was looking for a child in her bed. Anyone in the way would die
@@procrastinating_author is no one going to mention she killed peter and almost killed henry in a few seconds but couldnt kill dani in like the 5 minutes she was dragging her ass?
@@bestintheworld7090 she kills them in the bedroom and drags them back to the lake i think. Thats why dani lived. Henry lived thanks to Owen. Even Dani had trouble breathing after getting lose from that grip. 😂 every time I was like how is she choking them with one hand?
@@bestintheworld7090 idk about Henry, but she snapped Peter's neck at some point. Maybe if Flora wasn't in the bed then Dani's neck would have been snapped
LOVE The Haunting of Bly Manor! Very sad and soul wrenching and yes ugly cries to release your own emotions around the loss of the characters. If this show does not win awards, then I need to stop watching Netflix ! Brilliant performance and onscreen chemistry Victoria Pedretti & Amelia Eve. #Netflix
Bigger question, the parents room was the same room that the lady of the lake haunted. And they never came across her? None of them believed the kids about the ghosts. Did they not see anything in their years of living there they thought was odd.
That is a good question but for one it was a summer home so that cuts down the opportunities, secondly the father was always gone and the mother was cheating so maybe they didn't stay in bed much, and also possible they just slept thru the walk so viola just saw them and left like she did with the plague victim, she only killed the doctor because he got in her face.
The lady in the water would come l ukebtwice a month and her daughter's bedroom wasn't the parents room. Plus it was a summer home. Thats why there aren't a lot of dead ghost trapped.
I was thinking that too, but I think Viola walks to the left once she climbs the stairs and if the parapet on the outside of the house is part of their parents room then it is on the right. So Viola's daughter's rooms just looks similar to the parents room.
Victoria is a professor of acting. I hope to see her in Hollywood movies. She deserves fame. She has beauty and charisma that you don't find in the most famous actresses.
I really wish they had ended Dani's backstory properly, maybe reconcile with Edmunds mother? It would probably have been better then straight up dropping the Plotline
I don't think they were necessarily safe because of that, it was just that they didn't live in the Manor and had their own houses in the city, so they wouldn't spend the night often.
After Viola’s chest was thrown in the lake, things didn’t matter to her anymore because her daughter was gone. She’d wake and walk through Bly and kill whoever was in her path, not because they touched her things
For me it's much more interesting that Flora and Miles' parents never experienced paranormal things. I mean they did go on vacations, etc., but for me it's still weird that they never saw any ghost during the years they lived in that house?
The mother did. The mother had seen the little boy, because she talks to Flora (in a memory) about giving the ghost a story so than she wasn’t afraid anynrow
Henry said that when he was young had a knight as a "imaginary" friend there in Bly, but we discover that there is really a knight ghost in the manor (we see him near the main stairs IIRC). I guess that the ghosts in Bly are good, neutral at least, so they leave the people who live there alone. Remember that over the time they forgot who they are and since non of them can go outside Bly manor they simply stay there, like Perdita and the plague doctor. The one who is actively "protecting" the family is the boy with the doll face, moving the puppets and letting know Flora when the Lady of the lake wakes up for her healthy night-walk.
It is truly Dani, as she is there and viola is Gone, Dani accepted her, but didn’t drag her down, it’s you, it’s me, it’s us. And nothing was more powerful then that waiting.
She didn’t die, when viola took over, she was where she always was, in the lake, but influenced by Dani, hence why “but she is also the lady of the lake, and will never drag anyone down again” and once viola finally fades away, Dani will be free, to be with the one who she loves, as she is the only one who didn’t make the decision, who gave everything up for everyone else, unlike the possessive and jealous others.
(TLDR at the bottom) Jamie and Owen were new to the manor, we know for a fact at least Owen was hired after the kid's parents died, I assume the same for Jamie, as we don't see them in any scene with the parents and the kids only spend vacations there, that's why flora doesn't see the little kind until she is 5. Also, you already did a video on hidden ghosts and they are around Owen and Hanna quite a bit. I think the kids protected Hanna from the lady in the lake. I assume most ghosts were around a lot inside the house but outside no so much so Jamie was fine. But most of all I think the children protection and Hanna lighting candles to the dead kept them safe. Also, Peter didn't show his ugly face because he knew everybody hated him and he couldn't possess them and I want to believe Rebecca is ashamed, and Owen and Hanna would have taken the kids away knowing there were ghosts ruining Peter's plan. TLDR: light candles to the dead, don't stay after dark (hill house reference) befriend kids that know where ghosts are at all times, have another ghost to protect you and they better don't show their faces or you are taking those kids away and ruining their plan.
What I don’t understand....is why was Jamie invited to Flora’s wedding if she doesn’t even remember her??? Wasn’t she thinking “who the hell is this random lady whose at my wedding rehearsal dinner??”
@@bestintheworld7090 but it’s still weird she didn’t ask who is this guy making a speech at my rehearsal dinner and who is this random woman who showed up late. I wish the telling of the story was set up differently.
Flora asked Owen to speak at the rehearsal dinner. We know when she was 17 she went to his restaurant with her brother and Henry. So it's probable they kept in touch since you wouldn't ask a stranger to make a speech. And Jamie sat in the seat next to Henry so she was his plus one.
Something I wondered, similarly to how when Dani burned the glasses Edmund stopped haunting her, if they had burned the clothes would Viola also been satiated and stop haunting bly?
The fact that Jamie and owen or forced to live the rest of their lives without the people they love the most is a type of haunting in my opinion.... probably the worst one out of all of them because they stuck with the memories of people who will never remember them back
I think Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they we genuinely good people, this is a love story and even though they both had awful things happen in their lives they never let that darkness seep into them the way it did Peter and the people who had to actually live in that house.
To me the different kinds of hauntings and the slipping away in memories and time glitches are all different manifestations of different mental illnesses. I think this is why we don't see Owen and Jaimy getting haunted. Although they have to deal with these issues in their loved ones, Owen's mom litterally and Jaimy's wife Dani with her hauntings, their own mental health is quite good.
Dani's dead boyfriend: PTSD Lady in the lake in Dani: Depression Hannah's time travel: Dementia (if she is demented, she might as well be dead, because living in the current moment is the only way to truly be alive) Flora tucked away in memories: ADD or derealization? Miles being taken over by Quint: Could be the early start of Dissociative identity disorder, set on by the traumatic events of losing many loved ones? Uncle Henry and scary grinning Henry : Schitzofrenia
i loved this show !! i haven't even seen the first season. same people just different characters. i love that. hopefully they continue the series . also she reminds me alot like of maddie zigglar ( from dance moms ) .. its just her facial expressions lol. idk maybe thats just me .
That's what I thought was going to happen, but that would have been predictable. I must say that I love how The Haunting Of series plays with foreshadowing and time perspective like so in Hill House you see Nell in the corner so you think nothing is amiss - only then the phone call comes. And then you have the character loops in Bly Manor you basically experience the disorientation of Hannah's loop before reaching one yourself as the viewer when Dani shows up to the manor for the first time.
i don't think he was a real ghost, more of a manifestation of Dani's guilt. so when she burned his glasses and stopped living in fear of him, he went away
Yeah Edmund wasn't a real ghost, just her guilty conscience. Plus their ending was messy and she didn't appreciate him like that considering she's gay so I doubt he would've even if his ghost were present
I think that the Gardener (Jamie) and the Cook (Owen) were not affected by the hauntings because they were actual caretakers of the home and family. They didn't ever try to take anything away from the manor or the family. In the episode about Viola, we learn about her strong will which includes maintaining ownership of the home and her family. Peter was often seen by Hanna stealing from the manor and the family. Then Rebecca wore and took the mink coat. The ones who are guilty or trying to take away from the home/family would remain part of the hauntings. Which is why the Gardener and the Cook weren't as affected by the hauntings while they were there. They had nothing to be guilty about. They were there just to take care of the home and nurture love for the family.
owen doesnt sleep there, he tends on his mom, he goes home early sometimes, and not joining them for dinner, as said on the show on an earlier episode. we only see a few night scene where he goes there but not the whole night does he stays. Jamie's room isnt inside the house. there was also a scene at the bonfire, where Jamie and owen goes home after Owen asked Hannah to go with him at Paris. re-watching it a couple of times. i also find out that viola's pathway on the way up was charlottes room. so ummm... they didnt clear that up. i need an explanation on that. and i agree with Mex CrownWarr. they are usually at the kitchen and garden most of the time. they werent really in the book to begin with.
Like Sadie said, "Jamie is an unreliable storyteller". There are parts Jamie knew for sure based on her own experience and conversations with Dani, Owen, and Henry. But the rest is filled in, based on assumptions or research she may have done. Do you really think if the love of your life is being possessed you wouldn't try to find out by who? And maybe how to stop it.
If I got it right, the lady in the lake only takes people down like certain days at midnight. So, considering Jami and Owen didn't live in the manor; most likely they never spend the night there except for that very night Jamie spent with Dani. I find the fact that Peter or the plague doctor were taken way stranger than Jamie and Owen being 'immune' to her.
Gosh, I was wondering why Hannah was not a "ghost" like the others and always maintained a physical presence around everyone else in Bly. Now that explains it! I thought it was a plot hole haha. As for why Owen and Jamie are not haunted, I have absolutely no idea. We cannot say that they never got around grief (Owen lost his mother, and then Jamie has a sad past). But maybe it is because they are content with the way things are now ? Maybe.
Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they were outsiders and not part of Bly House,they didn't live there and they didn't, like Peter Quint did, have cruel and brutal intentions toward those around him.
you know, i believe dani choosed to not let jamie know that she was there by showing up to her because even tho they miss each other, dani loves jamie so much that she chooses to let jamie live and not get trapped into the idea of having to lie to herself living with dani ghost and not letting herself get the chance of finding someone. it makes sense in my head. :p
But what if Jamie would have stayed at Bly? Wouldn't she be able to see Dani at night when she would walk around? Like if Dani walks at night like Viola does then Jamie could've stayed and see Dani at night. And as Dani would never hurt Jamie it could work out. Since Jamie wont be taken by Viola she is safe. Or have I just a blackout and this makes no sense?
i think jaime and owen weren’t haunted bc they didn’t deny the loss of their loved one, they knew how to embrass and deal with grief. that and the fact they didn’t live in the actual manor made they way less likely to be haunted.
I believe Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they had to spend the rest of their lives without their loved ones so I guess that is haunting in it's own way. The loneliness. Owen more than Jamie, at least she had her 5 years.
I honestly think, as good as Hannah's performance was, Owen seriously takes the prize for scene stealer. His monologue at the fire, the look on his face when he lights the candle, his deadpan of the most sinister lines of his job interivew... he was done PERFECTLY. Don't get me wrong, though, Hannah's portrayal was on point, too (especially the thing with the crack in the wall... so good). Personally, I have Hill House as a 9.5/10, and this series as a 9/10. So just barely behind the first "season". And I already want news on the third.
technically jamie is currently being haunted, by dani, she just doesn’t know it and obviously because of dani’s immense amount of love for jamie it’s a good type of haunting
But what about the fact that, at the end, Flora says that "Flora" is her middle name instead of her first name? Did Jamie change the names during the story, or? Otherwise Flora would have been able to recognize all of the names throughout the story, but there's just no indication that Jamie did that??
im sad thqat dani died, no lesbian couple can never have a happy ending but I like the way they did her death, it was meaningful unlike how jason did lexa's
The show Wynonna Earp hasn't ended yet but it has great wlw representation, the lesbian couple is a big reason why the fanbase love the show so much so i doubt they'd kill them off and it's a great show so i really recommend that
Thank goodness I finished watching this show right before watching this show synopsis. Warning to anyone who hasn't finished watching the show..to finish watching the show.
Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they didn’t push away their grief; they owned it, processed it, and thus became immune to being haunted.
That is actually a very good theory in my opinion :)
True, but if they were there at night more and happened to get in the way of Viola they wouldn’t have been immune 😂. She would have choked them out all the same.
@@marcgw496 That is very true xD Thankfully they never crossed her path o.o
Or maybe is because Owen is always in the kitchen and Jamie in the garden???perhaps??
owen doesnt sleep there, he tends on his mom, he goes home early sometimes, and not joining them for dinner, as said on the show on an earlier episode. we only see a few night scene where he goes there but not the whole night does he stays. Jamie's room isnt inside the house. there was also a scene at the bonfire, where Jamie and owen goes home after Owen asked Hannah to go with him at Paris. re-watching it a couple of times.
i also find out that viola's pathway on the way up was charlottes room. so ummm... they didnt clear that up. i need an explanation on that.
and i agree with Mex CrownWarr. they are usually at the kitchen and garden most of the time.
they werent really in the book to begin with.
victoria’s acting is..... perfectly splendid
She deserves an emmy😭 she did so good last season too
@@chlxbear ikrrr
i love her
Ikr!!! And it’s crazy to think that hill house was her first acting job
Hannah's death is the saddest tho... At least dani experienced being with her love one while hannah died without even making sure that owen knows she love him
And what's even sadder is hannah was forgotten by the 2 kids she saw as her family
Her death was just the saddest. 😢😢
I think Rebecca's is even sadder because she realizes Peter manipulated her into death and he made her feel the drowning because he didn't want to (and she tried to save herself but couldn't, made me think of Naya Rivera). But Hannah's is a close, close second. Hannah and Rebecca both were too trusting of Peter (even though Hannah knew not to be, and she should've known from what Miles was saying on the way to the well that it was really him). But Peter 100% killed both of them tragically.
kids and henry were the most selfish! Hands down.
@@XleahrachelleX yess Rebecca's screaming when she sees her own dead body haunts me
hannah's? viola's death wins by a landslide.
she used to be extremely close to her baby and would did anything for her, until she got sick and couldn't watch her child grow up.
she knew she was going to die soon so she decided to take all of her expensive items and leave them for her daughter in a trunk, which is the only memory her daughter would have of her. then when she was lying in bed her jealous, aggressive sister held her hand over her mouth until she died.
after that perdita tried to get into the trunk and sell/wear everything she had left for her daughter. little did she know that when viola died her ghost went into the trunk.
viola had been waiting and when someone finally opened the trunk she thought it we be her daughter. instead it was her sister, so viola choked her.
after that she went back into the trunk and waited for years, for the day that her daughter would be able to wear everything she had been left.
she woke up thinking that the trunk was being opened, but in reality she was thrown into the lake and realized that soon after.
every night, she would wake up and walk to her old bedroom trying to find her daughter. most of the time there was no one, but when there was someone in the way of her attempting to reach her daughter she would strangle them and drag them back to the lake. she would go back to sleep, then wake up forgetting what happened.
doing it all over again.
my point is that all viola ever wanted was her baby.
she just wanted to be with her but she couldn't. instead she was killed betrayed and then ditched, so that's why i believe viola's death was the saddest.
This show was perfectly splendid. ☺
God I hated every time I heard that phase
@@joking2052 same, but it cracked me up when I heard it from Ms. Jessel the first time.
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@@joking2052 I know, so bloody irritating, especially if you've got Peppa Pig saying it
Please don't I'm hardcore cringing from hearing that too many times. Like someone give Flora a thesaurus please for the love of God so she can use any word but splendid. Lol
You see, I disagree with you on the first bit. In my opinion the “ghost” dani saw was just her guilt manifesting itself as her ex-fiancé, not his actual spirit. Similar to that of hill house when Shirley saw her guilt manifesting itself as the man she had an affair with.
Definitely. Bly Manor is all about memory, being haunted by our memories, how our memories change over time, and how fleeting memory is. Dani is haunted by the memory of what happened, that’s why Edmund’s glasses glow like they did right before he died. Hannah has lost her memory (of her death), but she also could be a description of the terror of dementia. She keeps getting lost in her memories, finds herself lost and confused, not knowing where or when she is. This series is all about how terrifying our memories can be, how they can haunt us and destroy us.
I agree. Dani's ghost is so similar to Uncle Henry's ghost. They just obviously seemed like manifestations of guilt to me the way they followed their victims from location to location.
I would say it was more like PTSD
I've also seen an even deeper read of this that the ghost of Dani's ex is actually her guilt not just about his death but also about being unable to be straight for him and his family in a heteronormative patriarchal world. He doesn't stop haunting her until she fully accepts her identity as a lesbian by committing to her love for Jamie.
There is a scene where the ghost is pulled into the house. Like all those who died at Bly.
Nothing can kill me cause I already died when Jamie found Dani at the bottom of the lake
Uh I hear you
That was the exact moment that I died as well. Words can't describe.
It might be the saddest death I've seen onscreen.
I felt this on another level
Bro I was literally crying a river when I watched that last episode...how did y'all even get over that last scene?! Help 😭😭
I feel your pain 😭
Technically Jamie and Owen were haunted by a ghost. Hannah. They just didn't know she was a ghost. And Peter possessing Miles interacted with them too.
OR... at least for Jamie, cause she liked her life to be "nice and boring", so she never really cared that much about the ghosts.
She didn't haunted them, she was just there a friendly ghost
Thanks for saying EXACTLY what I was thinking. That comment was perfectly splendid, lol
@@nightnaughty A haunting doesn't always have to be malicious. Sometimes spirits linger for more than revenge.
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It's probably Owen's puns that spared him from being hunted.
Or maybe after all there was sth to ridding oneself of spirits of the past with the bonfire
"Al-co-hol you later ; )"
*leaves*
I cried at the end of bly manor, it's just so sweet that Jamie will never give up on her love, and will always do whatever she can to see dannie again
The creator of this show is a genius. Like this show is just so well written. Every scene gives you something to think about and to feel and it’s like the entire show is a huge puzzle that your putting together. Seriously amazing work 👏🏻❤️
This was the show we all needed, and likely didn’t deserve. Lol
Not better then hill house
@@jamezguard i liked it more than hill House. But that’s just my opinion
@@jollyfighter7319 ok?
@@jamezguard yeah, I am. Why?
It was very well done. A really well done love story that didn’t fall into the relationship has to built on drama and love games trope.
If only jamie would've known dani was still there with her in the end.. I would have less sad 😔
Ikr. That was so sad, that very last scene gave me chills.
Wait... she died? I thought she was asleep and dani visited her lmao
@@Lpalhuca lol I wish
But I think she did know. If you watch the first scene of the first episode, it’s like a continuation of the last scene of the last episode. We see older Jamie waking up and she looks to her shoulder as if she knew Dani’s hand was there. So I think Jamie does know.
@@39kwn16 yes i think she knows. She opened the gate for dani so that she can enter the house and can be near her
It’s all Flora’s fault. Love the child but if she didn’t start screaming her head off and refusing to follow Dani, who literally has spent the whole series taking care of Flora and protecting her, even though she already saw and knew what happened to Miles plus Peter and Rebecca’s plan to tuck her and her brother away.
True, it rubbes me the wrong way that the kids just forgot about her, and her sacrifice wasn't aknowlodge or even honored by those who benefited from it, except por Jamie.
Seriously I mean, i would have just left Flora. You wanna throw a tantrum? Ok bye bish I’m not sticking around after everything that happened.
She’s 7... and traumatized and she love her brother. It’s not her fault
Daily Charles Noise yeah, i would have noped out of there. 🤷♀️
@@dancingchica808 Hope you’re not an Au pair
This show was everything ❤️
Is*^ 😂
It was meh
Yes yes yes!!! And I'm hoping they bring the kids back,they were perfectly splendid😁
The whole show revolves around love and the power of love. I think the reason that Jamie and Owen were never haunted by the original spirits of Bly was because they were being “haunted” by Hannah, and Hannah loved them both so much that her love protected them both. However, neither of them truly escaped the haunting. Owen lost the love of his life, and so did Jamie, but only after being haunted by the Lady of the Lake WITHIN Dani. And to add onto that, Jamie and Owen are now both being haunted by the loss of their loved ones and that’s the worst kind of haunting.
this. this is beautiful.
Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they don’t live at Bly Manor. They’re not a live-in au pair like Dani or a live-in housekeeper like Hannah. Remember that Viola only walks around at night and both of them are usually gone by then.
technically jamie and owen were not haunted, probably worse got the person they loved the most taken away.
idk what's a crueler fate, be haunted by ghosts or have the one thing you love be taken away from you
well said
Ah, you made me cry.
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Also in the bon fire they let their pain go. Like the ghosts in their pass move on.
Jaime and Owen were not really hunted by a ghost in the way the others were because they kind of let go the past. in somehwhere i read this season was about forgetting the past, letting go the past. Owen was hunted by his mother but the moment she died he said he was happy because she was long ago gone and Jaime the same. She let go her past, focused in flowers, etc and continued living while the others didn't. Owen and Jaime were kind of happy about letting go. The others couldn't stop thinking about the past. Dany with her fiance, hannah with her hudsband i think, the kids with their parents...
Even at the end Jaime is still waiting for Dany i feel it's more of the same. THey let go the past (kind of why she tells the story in the way she does), but she couldn't let go her love for dany.
I like this explanation. Owen even goes so far to say that he felt un-tethered after his mother passed.
Good theory
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Oh I really like this theory! It could definitely explain the ending, Jamie didn't let go of Dani and was 'haunted' by her
Hannah’s intense episode where she keeps travelling from one memory to the other is for me a metaphor on how she mulls the most. Jamie and Owen also found a way to process their emotions through gardening and cooking, an outlet instead of justing thinking things over and over.
Victoria Pedretti is a combination of HIlary Duff, Kat Dennings and Piper Perabo.... that is all
Holy crap
OMG YEEEESS
when i was watching i was thinking i could imagine Hilary playing the role because they’re so alike!
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shes victoria pedretti
In a way Peter was right. "They were just the help". They paid the price for it and after everything they have been through, the family was able to move on with their lives :(
Damn, you're right
I really liked Bly Manor! It was a really well crafted story!
I saw a couple of people in other comment sections say that they think Dani wasn't tied to the grounds of Bly so it's entirely possible that she really had visited Jamie in the hotel room. Viola was the one creating the supernatural pull at Bly, and once she was contained within Dani, that pull was gone. Even in Dani's death, Viola could still be contained by Dani's spirit. After all, Viola hadn't overtaken Dani by the time Dani had drowned herself, so Dani was the one who had the most control, and her death could have locked that control in. Since Dani would be the one calling the shots, she might be able to leave Bly. Jamie was assuming Dani would walk the ground like Viola had, losing her memories and all that, because that was the only data she had to go by. She could have been totally wrong in her assumption. This is just a theory and I have no idea if any of this has been confirmed by the creators, but it's a fun headcanon.
Your theory matches what the creator said in an interview. The last scene where Dani's hand is shown, it means that she was with Jamie the whole time but didn't want to "hunt" her.
surprised I haven’t seen this mentioned, Jamie is an unreliable narrator, especially at the end after Dani dies. She doesn’t actually know that Dani walks the grounds of Bly, she just assumes so because Dani’s not there to tell her otherwise. I think they left open the possibility that that was just Dani’s body, she was merged with Viola so she can control the gravity too and can leave and watch over Jamie wherever she goes. Either way, it’s an amazing story, my mental health just needs to believe my theory 😂
She also has no way to know what happened between Viola and Perdita.
I need this to be true also haha
I wish they introduced Viola earlier in the season (not revealing that she is the lady in the lake). I feel like the episode of hers should’ve been spread out a bit so we could process this “evil” character more.
Definitely
Agree! They gave too much screentime / importance to Rebecca & Peter when the main haunting of Bly Manor was caused by Viola originally lol it felt like the climax & ending were at the same point which was episode 8 & 9 idk if i even make sense sjsksksks but anyway, dani & jamie's story is so heartbreaking 😭 but their love is so amazing 😢💖💙🌈
Nah, i think viola was only scary when I didn't understand her. I liked the amount of fear she inspired beforehand and then the juxtaposition of "oh, viola's just doing her thing" afterwards.
@@blue1eyed9bee I agree with you but I wish they would’ve developed both “the lady of the lake” and Viola as two separate characters so it would be a climactic reveal that viola was the lady of the lake.
Nah it would still be way too obvious
Jamie and Owen are just built different I guess.
But why did Flora not get out of the bed immediately after Viola dropped Dani? Then they would both run away, and everyone would be safe and Dani wouldn't die.. :(
@Adrien Rocchi yeah and Flora doesn’t even remember her 😒
Dani couldn’t stand, she passed out flora wouldn’t have been able to drag her out of their by herself, without viola taking them both
@@claudiagarciaalcocer yeah that makes sense actually
@@melo7825 I don't think she remembers bly very well because she was tucked away alot. She always thought it was a game. Not only that, she was tucked away one last time before almost drowning with Viola. Think if it like passing out drunk. You don't really remember the moments that led up to you passing out. But it's not alcohol that's causing the bit of memory loss she experienced but the trauma itself causing the lack of memory.
I thought viola should have had more of backstory, even though she’s got a whole episode, it was still incomplete to me. I mean peter had more of a well rounded evil person backstory than her. The uncle should have been the one making the huge sacrifice at the end because he is their family not Dani, like damn!
One of the overarching themes was that of found family, so it makes sense that Dani did it.
Did we forget the part where he stood in Viola's way and almost killed him thus making him unable to make that sacrifice? Like damn! Lol
I watched this last night. So, so, so , so good. ❤️
I have watched the whole thing in one weekend and I am 100% addicted- I don’t even like it just because it’s a horror- it’s the characters and storylines eg Jamie and Dani, and little Flora’s, which I fell in love with
Interestingly, out of all the main characters, Jamie and Owen were the only ones who didn’t live through negative emotions due to a breakup or bereavement for most of the time since the beginning of the story timeline.
•Hannah was going through a marriage breakup.
•Henry was experiencing breakup, guilt due to his affair, the death of his brother and his wife and abandoning his daughter and nephew. (Maybe such enormous guilt is what made him see a ghost of himself outside Bly)
•The children were experiencing bereavement.(also maybe because they are children)
•Dani was haunted by her fiancé’s death.
•Peter was haunted by his past which made him insecure about his relationship and prompted him to plot, steal and run away.
•Jessel was angry at Peter because she thought he ran away without her.
Maybe since they (Owen and Jamie) weren’t experiencing that sense of guilt, betrayal, anger and sadness they weren’t able to see the ghosts created by Viola whom’s curse and its gravity was fuelled by such strong emotions.
Or at least that’s what I think.🤷🏻♂️
That's a really good theory, but you could also maybe say it's their connection to the dead. I don't think Hannah saw anything before she died. Then again by the time Viola took Flora they could clearly all see her. I'm pretty confused about what Hannah, Owen, & Jamie knew prior to Dani coming there.
@@XleahrachelleX that sounds really plausible.👌
I thought Hannah was able to see Peter just before he pushed her into the well. In that scene she realised he was dead, which makes me think if it was just a memory and if so, why she was pushed into the well in the first place if she couldn’t see Peter when she was alive. It a confusing show.😂
@@AA-ji7xf I saw a comment that said it's because Jamie and Owen didn't sleep there at night and I think that's probably a big factor. And Hannah implies that she sleeps through the night by saying she wakes up to the footprints sometimes, so if she doesn't leave her room at night she would've never seen Viola on her path. But with how often the ghosts appear during the day, it's hard to believe any one person in that house for years didn't see anything. They would like, hide in corners and shadows, some theories that the plague doctor and doll face ghost watched over things (I think he moved the dolls to show where they were). And well, the doctor was a someone that helped people. But yeah, as good as this show was, it's left me with many questions 😄
owen was
his mother died dude
Loved this!!
I think one could argue that Owen & Jaime were haunted. Even though Hannah was unaware that she was a ghost, she was attached to Owen because she loved him. He unknowingly helped keep her grounded & momentarily live out the fantasy of what their lives could have been. As for Jaime, as mentioned, she's an unreliable narrator & changed some details. She also states at the beginning that it's not her story. So maybe she was haunted in her own way by the past she mentioned in her monolog in the garden, but she chose not to share that because the story she's telling isn't about her personal journey
Yeah the ending to this was horrible, seeing dani and jamie so in love, then seeing them grow and when she saw dani in the lake i sobbed so hard the bit where she ran the bath and waited for dani at the end so sad and then u saw danis hand on her shoulder. Ive never cried so much, the acting and everything was amazing, the music as well makes it more sad. I just wished Jamie and dani got a happy ending 😩☹️
and the LINES MAN. not only the actors but also the writers did an outstanding job
At first I really thought Dani was apart of Viola's bloodline and that's why she accepted her....but no lol
Who knows? Maybe she is? They did move after all. It is entirely possible. And unlike Flora/Miles and Rebecca/Peter, Danny and Viola had absolutely no connection to one another other than a love for a child. So my theory is that, someone, deep inside, Viola heard Danny say “it’s you, it’s me, it’s us” and her blood sparked because Danny was her blood. It’s why she accepted the invitation. That’s my theory anyway
@@procrastinating_author that is how i like to see it too. Isobel and her father moved to America. Is it that much of stretch to assume that dani is her descendant and got pulled to bly manor by Viola's gravity.
That way viola gets what she always wanted too.
@@procrastinating_author Well that’s just purely a theory bc most likely it’s bc Dani reminded Viola of something from her past. If you remember, in the episode about Viola, she was the first person to say “it’s you, it’s me, it’s us” as she said it to her daughter. So when Dani said that she was reminded of who she was for a brief moment
@@printlinks8291 Huh, that is an interesting theory. I mean it was said that both parties have to want it in order to inhabit the other. So why exactly did Viola want it and why didn't she take over Dani's body the same way Peter did Miles?
I wonder why Jamie doesn't just go to Bly and wait and watch Dani walking around there.
It's also like cosmic because Dani wouldn't have met Jamie if Perdita didn't kill Viola. Rebecca probably wouldn't have died and Dani wouldn't get the position at Bly. 🤔
Its 50/50 and im depressed
Rebecca wouldnt have died, but I think her and Peter still would have ran off to America together. And then Dani would take over.
@@kh-ze5ub thought about that and maybe Rebecca would have realised the toxicity of their relationship and let him move to America alone or figured out he was embezzling and turned him into the police. 🤷🏽♀️
The show mentioned not relying on the past or future. Not thinking of what is and live in the day. The day may be all you have
Jaime loved plants more than people, and Owen loved food more than people (maybe apart from Hannah) and so they couldn't be possessed by ghosts. That's my take on it. Regardless, what a brilliant ghost/love story!
jaimi loved dani more than plants eventually
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acc Dani goes first for Jamie, then plants.
@@justinn9342 yeh you're right :)
@@user-yg5wc2ho3v yep, you're right, I rethought that ;)
It wasn’t Henry’s ghost that was haunting Dani. It was the memory of Henry’s death that haunted her! She had suffered a traumatic experience and it was that that followed her around.
You mean Edmund ?
@@heyoitsnat9980 yes, sorry. I meant Edmund! Silly me 😳😳
@@heyoitsnat9980 yeah....I was like who was henry
@@jpr3628 wdym who is Henry? Lol
well Peter was on Viola's path, that's the only reason why he got killed. If he left sooner he wouldn't of died.
@Taylor R'stephens she only followed the one path, lake, master bedroom, lake. Be standing in that path like Peter, the Priest, the plague doctor, the little boy, presumably the soldier, and technically Danny, and you die. If it weren’t for Flora, Danny would have been dragged into the lake just as Peter had been and I think if Flora had been in front of Danny, and not behind her, Flora would be the one getting choked but yes she’s a little girl and that’s who Viola was looking for, but she was looking for a child in her bed. Anyone in the way would die
@@procrastinating_author At The Same Time Tho, If Flora Hadn't Stopped Running Dani Never Would've Gotten Grabbed
@@procrastinating_author is no one going to mention she killed peter and almost killed henry in a few seconds but couldnt kill dani in like the 5 minutes she was dragging her ass?
@@bestintheworld7090 she kills them in the bedroom and drags them back to the lake i think. Thats why dani lived. Henry lived thanks to Owen. Even Dani had trouble breathing after getting lose from that grip. 😂 every time I was like how is she choking them with one hand?
@@bestintheworld7090 idk about Henry, but she snapped Peter's neck at some point. Maybe if Flora wasn't in the bed then Dani's neck would have been snapped
"Gotta keep things proper borin, havent we"
5:07 the literal definition of ghosting
The fact that Dani sacrificed herself for Flora and the siblings not remembering everything at all, shatters my heart into million pieces.
LOVE The Haunting of Bly Manor! Very sad and soul wrenching and yes ugly cries to release your own emotions around the loss of the characters. If this show does not win awards, then I need to stop watching Netflix ! Brilliant performance and onscreen chemistry Victoria Pedretti & Amelia Eve. #Netflix
Bigger question, the parents room was the same room that the lady of the lake haunted. And they never came across her? None of them believed the kids about the ghosts. Did they not see anything in their years of living there they thought was odd.
That is a good question but for one it was a summer home so that cuts down the opportunities, secondly the father was always gone and the mother was cheating so maybe they didn't stay in bed much, and also possible they just slept thru the walk so viola just saw them and left like she did with the plague victim, she only killed the doctor because he got in her face.
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It’s bc viola was trapped in her purgatory of the house
The lady in the water would come l ukebtwice a month and her daughter's bedroom wasn't the parents room. Plus it was a summer home. Thats why there aren't a lot of dead ghost trapped.
I was thinking that too, but I think Viola walks to the left once she climbs the stairs and if the parapet on the outside of the house is part of their parents room then it is on the right. So Viola's daughter's rooms just looks similar to the parents room.
Victoria is a professor of acting. I hope to see her in Hollywood movies. She deserves fame. She has beauty and charisma that you don't find in the most famous actresses.
I really wish they had ended Dani's backstory properly, maybe reconcile with Edmunds mother? It would probably have been better then straight up dropping the Plotline
Just finished this and I'm glad this video was here for me after
Jamie and Owen were safe because they never touched the Things belong to Viola.
I don't think they were necessarily safe because of that, it was just that they didn't live in the Manor and had their own houses in the city, so they wouldn't spend the night often.
Dani didn't touch any of that, she was just in the way of Viola thanks to Flora's tantrum
@@nightnaughty LMAO FR SKXNSKCNS
After Viola’s chest was thrown in the lake, things didn’t matter to her anymore because her daughter was gone. She’d wake and walk through Bly and kill whoever was in her path, not because they touched her things
For me it's much more interesting that Flora and Miles' parents never experienced paranormal things. I mean they did go on vacations, etc., but for me it's still weird that they never saw any ghost during the years they lived in that house?
The mother did. The mother had seen the little boy, because she talks to Flora (in a memory) about giving the ghost a story so than she wasn’t afraid anynrow
Anymore *
Henry said that when he was young had a knight as a "imaginary" friend there in Bly, but we discover that there is really a knight ghost in the manor (we see him near the main stairs IIRC). I guess that the ghosts in Bly are good, neutral at least, so they leave the people who live there alone. Remember that over the time they forgot who they are and since non of them can go outside Bly manor they simply stay there, like Perdita and the plague doctor. The one who is actively "protecting" the family is the boy with the doll face, moving the puppets and letting know Flora when the Lady of the lake wakes up for her healthy night-walk.
@@m.grammo5128 I believe Henry said he had an imaginary soldier friend.
@@bloodmanor8 Yes it is correct, in italian the subtitle was "soldato" (so very generic) so atm I thought it was the statue near the stairs :)
I just finished it and my eyes hurt from crying.
Victoria as blonde could also been a cool choice for the role of Daynerys Targaryen she looks familiar with Emilia Clarke 😯
It is truly Dani, as she is there and viola is Gone, Dani accepted her, but didn’t drag her down, it’s you, it’s me, it’s us. And nothing was more powerful then that waiting.
She didn’t die, when viola took over, she was where she always was, in the lake, but influenced by Dani, hence why “but she is also the lady of the lake, and will never drag anyone down again” and once viola finally fades away, Dani will be free, to be with the one who she loves, as she is the only one who didn’t make the decision, who gave everything up for everyone else, unlike the possessive and jealous others.
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I think Hannah inadvertantly protected Jamie and Owen, she wasn't exactly haunting them but they merged into her afterlife existance
(TLDR at the bottom) Jamie and Owen were new to the manor, we know for a fact at least Owen was hired after the kid's parents died, I assume the same for Jamie, as we don't see them in any scene with the parents and the kids only spend vacations there, that's why flora doesn't see the little kind until she is 5. Also, you already did a video on hidden ghosts and they are around Owen and Hanna quite a bit. I think the kids protected Hanna from the lady in the lake. I assume most ghosts were around a lot inside the house but outside no so much so Jamie was fine. But most of all I think the children protection and Hanna lighting candles to the dead kept them safe. Also, Peter didn't show his ugly face because he knew everybody hated him and he couldn't possess them and I want to believe Rebecca is ashamed, and Owen and Hanna would have taken the kids away knowing there were ghosts ruining Peter's plan.
TLDR: light candles to the dead, don't stay after dark (hill house reference) befriend kids that know where ghosts are at all times, have another ghost to protect you and they better don't show their faces or you are taking those kids away and ruining their plan.
What a superbly crafted series!
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@@Freak-tionxc0mic Thankyou 😘
What I don’t understand....is why was Jamie invited to Flora’s wedding if she doesn’t even remember her??? Wasn’t she thinking “who the hell is this random lady whose at my wedding rehearsal dinner??”
Henry probably invited her.
@@bestintheworld7090 but it’s still weird she didn’t ask who is this guy making a speech at my rehearsal dinner and who is this random woman who showed up late. I wish the telling of the story was set up differently.
Flora asked Owen to speak at the rehearsal dinner. We know when she was 17 she went to his restaurant with her brother and Henry. So it's probable they kept in touch since you wouldn't ask a stranger to make a speech. And Jamie sat in the seat next to Henry so she was his plus one.
I think they played with the theme of death very well. I would’ve loved Peter to be a rounder character though.
Such a sad, beautiful show 😭 a tragic love story, I loved it
Something I wondered, similarly to how when Dani burned the glasses Edmund stopped haunting her, if they had burned the clothes would Viola also been satiated and stop haunting bly?
The fact that Jamie and owen or forced to live the rest of their lives without the people they love the most is a type of haunting in my opinion.... probably the worst one out of all of them because they stuck with the memories of people who will never remember them back
Jamie & Owen was not really haunted by the ghost because they dont sleep in the house. They stays outside & comes back in the morning only.
After watching this show I was depressed😔
I think Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they we genuinely good people, this is a love story and even though they both had awful things happen in their lives they never let that darkness seep into them the way it did Peter and the people who had to actually live in that house.
Why do the kids not remember anything as they grow old, like did Peter n Rebecca over possessed their memories?
Peter and Rebecca most likely took those memories with them in order for the kids to move on, live happily.
The mind can protect you from traumatic events, specially when they're just kids
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@@annatruong0820 that's the first I've heard that theory. I must say I like your take on it
@@felicityfoo6240 yeah that's the least Peter and Rebecca can do. Afterall, they showed some remorse at the very end.
Victoria is perfectly splendid
To me the different kinds of hauntings and the slipping away in memories and time glitches are all different manifestations of different mental illnesses. I think this is why we don't see Owen and Jaimy getting haunted. Although they have to deal with these issues in their loved ones, Owen's mom litterally and Jaimy's wife Dani with her hauntings, their own mental health is quite good.
Dani's dead boyfriend: PTSD
Lady in the lake in Dani: Depression
Hannah's time travel: Dementia (if she is demented, she might as well be dead, because living in the current moment is the only way to truly be alive)
Flora tucked away in memories: ADD or derealization?
Miles being taken over by Quint: Could be the early start of Dissociative identity disorder, set on by the traumatic events of losing many loved ones?
Uncle Henry and scary grinning Henry : Schitzofrenia
Jamie and Owen. Because they didn’t have the “baggage” everyone else had.
Love that summary 😂
i loved this show !! i haven't even seen the first season. same people just different characters. i love that. hopefully they continue the series . also she reminds me alot like of maddie zigglar ( from dance moms ) .. its just her facial expressions lol. idk maybe thats just me .
That little girl Amelie Smith absouletly stole the show for me. Awesome act
I wanted Edmunds ghost to defend Dani from the Lady of the Lake since he was a ghost from outside Bly. But he disappeared 😩
That's what I thought was going to happen, but that would have been predictable.
I must say that I love how The Haunting Of series plays with foreshadowing and time perspective like so in Hill House you see Nell in the corner so you think nothing is amiss - only then the phone call comes. And then you have the character loops in Bly Manor you basically experience the disorientation of Hannah's loop before reaching one yourself as the viewer when Dani shows up to the manor for the first time.
he wasn't a real ghost, it was dani's guilt, thats why when she burna his glasses he dissapears because she let's go of the guilt
I’m pretty sure Edmund wasn’t a ghost, more like a manifestation of Dani’s guilt.
i don't think he was a real ghost, more of a manifestation of Dani's guilt. so when she burned his glasses and stopped living in fear of him, he went away
Yeah Edmund wasn't a real ghost, just her guilty conscience. Plus their ending was messy and she didn't appreciate him like that considering she's gay so I doubt he would've even if his ghost were present
I think that the Gardener (Jamie) and the Cook (Owen) were not affected by the hauntings because they were actual caretakers of the home and family. They didn't ever try to take anything away from the manor or the family. In the episode about Viola, we learn about her strong will which includes maintaining ownership of the home and her family. Peter was often seen by Hanna stealing from the manor and the family. Then Rebecca wore and took the mink coat. The ones who are guilty or trying to take away from the home/family would remain part of the hauntings. Which is why the Gardener and the Cook weren't as affected by the hauntings while they were there. They had nothing to be guilty about. They were there just to take care of the home and nurture love for the family.
owen doesnt sleep there, he tends on his mom, he goes home early sometimes, and not joining them for dinner, as said on the show on an earlier episode. we only see a few night scene where he goes there but not the whole night does he stays. Jamie's room isnt inside the house. there was also a scene at the bonfire, where Jamie and owen goes home after Owen asked Hannah to go with him at Paris. re-watching it a couple of times.
i also find out that viola's pathway on the way up was charlottes room. so ummm... they didnt clear that up. i need an explanation on that.
and i agree with Mex CrownWarr. they are usually at the kitchen and garden most of the time.
they werent really in the book to begin with.
How did Jamie knew the entire story of Viola and Perdetta??
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
She could have looked it up plus viola was in dani. Dani felt everything that was viola. Its easy to assume she told Jamie
Like Sadie said, "Jamie is an unreliable storyteller". There are parts Jamie knew for sure based on her own experience and conversations with Dani, Owen, and Henry. But the rest is filled in, based on assumptions or research she may have done. Do you really think if the love of your life is being possessed you wouldn't try to find out by who? And maybe how to stop it.
Amelia's theory of the ending is so good!! And it made sense.
Jamie and Owen are left haunted for their life thinking about their loved ones
Just want to know What happened with flora when she was 5...
She met the doll face ghost
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If I got it right, the lady in the lake only takes people down like certain days at midnight. So, considering Jami and Owen didn't live in the manor; most likely they never spend the night there except for that very night Jamie spent with Dani. I find the fact that Peter or the plague doctor were taken way stranger than Jamie and Owen being 'immune' to her.
Gosh, I was wondering why Hannah was not a "ghost" like the others and always maintained a physical presence around everyone else in Bly. Now that explains it! I thought it was a plot hole haha. As for why Owen and Jamie are not haunted, I have absolutely no idea. We cannot say that they never got around grief (Owen lost his mother, and then Jamie has a sad past). But maybe it is because they are content with the way things are now ? Maybe.
Perhaps cause Owen is always inside the kitchen and Jamie with the flowers and plants in the garden.
How did Jamie narrate Viola's story? Did she trace her after Dani left so she knew to find her in the lake?
Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they were outsiders and not part of Bly House,they didn't live there and they didn't, like Peter Quint did, have cruel and brutal intentions toward those around him.
you know, i believe dani choosed to not let jamie know that she was there by showing up to her because even tho they miss each other, dani loves jamie so much that she chooses to let jamie live and not get trapped into the idea of having to lie to herself living with dani ghost and not letting herself get the chance of finding someone. it makes sense in my head. :p
But what if Jamie would have stayed at Bly? Wouldn't she be able to see Dani at night when she would walk around? Like if Dani walks at night like Viola does then Jamie could've stayed and see Dani at night. And as Dani would never hurt Jamie it could work out. Since Jamie wont be taken by Viola she is safe.
Or have I just a blackout and this makes no sense?
If Only Flora Hadn't Stopped Running Tho
If only Perdita hadn’t killed her sister Viola tho
@@itsvaldis True, True 😔
i don’t even wanna start this show bc i’m gonna cry
i recommend it but just grab the tissues for the last episode
Is anyone else so bothered because she pronounced Viola and Perdita wrong the whole time
Wouldn’t Dani save Hannah from getting pushed if she didn’t walk to the manor?
i dont't think she would know so probably not
Hahaha yeah! She should have driven all the way!!
That estate is HUGE. I doubt she would've even known what was happening or where
How? Peter pushed Hannah because she invaded and was ruining his plan for Miles. It had nothing to do with Danny’s entrance, just... coincident timing
i think jaime and owen weren’t haunted bc they didn’t deny the loss of their loved one, they knew how to embrass and deal with grief. that and the fact they didn’t live in the actual manor made they way less likely to be haunted.
I believe Jamie and Owen were never haunted because they had to spend the rest of their lives without their loved ones so I guess that is haunting in it's own way. The loneliness. Owen more than Jamie, at least she had her 5 years.
I honestly think, as good as Hannah's performance was, Owen seriously takes the prize for scene stealer. His monologue at the fire, the look on his face when he lights the candle, his deadpan of the most sinister lines of his job interivew... he was done PERFECTLY. Don't get me wrong, though, Hannah's portrayal was on point, too (especially the thing with the crack in the wall... so good).
Personally, I have Hill House as a 9.5/10, and this series as a 9/10. So just barely behind the first "season". And I already want news on the third.
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technically jamie is currently being haunted, by dani, she just doesn’t know it and obviously because of dani’s immense amount of love for jamie it’s a good type of haunting
But what about the fact that, at the end, Flora says that "Flora" is her middle name instead of her first name? Did Jamie change the names during the story, or? Otherwise Flora would have been able to recognize all of the names throughout the story, but there's just no indication that Jamie did that??
I feel like I finally fully understand the history
I think Jaime and Owen were anchors in the story. Two people who played such a big role the hauntings didn't touch them the same way
im sad thqat dani died, no lesbian couple can never have a happy ending but I like the way they did her death, it was meaningful unlike how jason did lexa's
There was a happy ending for the lesbians in the haunting of hill house
The show Wynonna Earp hasn't ended yet but it has great wlw representation, the lesbian couple is a big reason why the fanbase love the show so much so i doubt they'd kill them off and it's a great show so i really recommend that
UNLIKE HOW JASON DID LEXAS 👏👏👏👏 Then again Bellamy's was even freaking worse 😂
Thank goodness I finished watching this show right before watching this show synopsis. Warning to anyone who hasn't finished watching the show..to finish watching the show.
Okay, the thumbnail is doing Victori Pedretti DIRTY.
is it?
I just watched the show and it's perfectly splendid and dreadful at the same time
I’ve got no love for Peter but he did have a VERY traumatic childhood as well which shouldn’t be ignored