Making Paper Out Of Trees (100% From Scratch)
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2020
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Paper is an inexpensive commodity that we use in our everyday lives, but where does it really come from and at what cost? We're exploring how much it costs to create a sheet of paper from scratch, starting from a tree.
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Something about seeing the beginning of this process and now watching Andy make nails and nail a frame together was immensely satisfying.
Post-reset, these new iron tools are a real gamechanger. For a start, they can actually cut wood now, rather than whack it repeatedly until the middle falls out. The iron nails had me thinking, "wait, didn't I see nails just like these back on some field trip as a kid or something?"
Personally, I'm looking forward to anything that goes into trying to make more precise tools out of less precise ones. Things like making his own flat surface, straight edge, ruler (with measurements in whatever units he invents), and the like. Once they get their precision down enough for the interchangable parts episode though, all bets are off.
But there’s something that he didn’t think of. Back then they didn’t have nails or even think of that. They used little wooden pins and pegs to hold things together unless there was a specific joint used for beams and such. Nails weren’t used a ton for building things until late Renaissance. But nails were used for stuff like horseshoes and holding carriage wheels on later in. Originally it was pins also lol
@@swankscabinet1625 while this is true, nails are a sharpened pin with the other side being flattened a little bit.
They are basically a natural evolution of pins
@@ENDERLICOT yes and no. The nail is definitely a sharpened ‘pin’ but a nail has a head which a pin does not. Pins also are straight round/square bars not pointed or riveted. But technically yes it’s sorta like a sharpened pin, but there’s more to it than that
@@swankscabinet1625 a dowel (wooden pin) would have been more useful for this. Metals expensive.
Nothing screams mixed messages like wearing a reflective vest over a camo jacket. Looking at you Lauren
you might be looking at me... but do you see me or not??
ever see a deer hunter?
@@laurenapolis this is why I have trust issues
Prepare for 5000 replies about how deer are colorblind
If you upload more I will subscribe
Video: Making Paper out of Trees
Me who has seen Dr. Stone and Ascendance of a Bookworm: Let's compare notes
Andy: All up it took me 23 hours to make paper
Main: Hmph *Pout*
Manga readers eýyyyyyy
Watching and then reading ascendance of a bookworm really made me think about what would happen if all of our modern conveniences were taken away. I’ve been sort of actively trying to look up how things are made now LOL. Since I am not a bookworm with a crazy memory. Still can’t decide if that was a plot device or actual character. It could be both.
And I guess they didn’t exaggerate her making a ton of money based off of this
And this is why linen was such a big part of paper manufacturing paper for so many years. Linen rags were cheap and pulping wood is hard.
I feel like an a flatter anvil would be a good next thing to get... those nails existance is just pain
And some woodworking workholding tools, a rough shavehorse is not that hard to make
Better than nothin i guess
lets not forget, they should have had a knee vice or something like a stitching pony by this time, some of the oldest work holding devices out there
But the iron is still hard to come by
@@jusb1066 even just a flatter rock might work
It made me extremely nervous when Andy sawed over his leg.
With that saw, it would take more than a handful of swings to through his jeans, so I wouldn't worry about the integrity of his skin. That said, I'm looking forward to the gen3 iron tools, tools made with tools made with iron tools. Should have to start having serous functionality and a well-supplied workbench then. Plus, they _might_ have learned how to use them. ;P
I've said before that they really need to do an episode on work holding, they're quite behind on that. Screw clamps are out still but you can get a lot of clamping pressure with simple wedges, or twisted rope. It'll vastly improve their builds to have decent work holding. Also wedge in your hammer heads and they'll stop flying off.
They are butter hands urbanites who have never done anything manual. Let's hope they get less useless at the end of the series.
@@oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo That's a pretty unfair assessment of what the HTME team has been doing. Andy has been getting his hands dirty taking on new manual skills for YEARS now and isn't at all useless.
I'd just like to see them hold off on moving to the next sexy tech they're excited about and apply what they've learned to refining their workshop in some boring ways that'll make future builds much easier.
@@funkyspacecow Ask any tradesman what they think about cutting with a saw over your leg with your holding hand less than an inch away from the blade. They're not trade people, they are media people doing a show.. and that's fine.
You know, there's an older way of making paper that was also discovered in Meso America (amate). Instead of shaping the sheet with a bamboo mat the paper was hammered out with stones. it's easier to do since it doesn't require the expertise that it takes to properly shape paper.
Also, cloth is not as good as a bamboo mat in my experience. The pulp sticks to tempered bamboo less which makes it easier to detach (also when shaping it you should not simply put it in and pull it out, rather shake it around to let the fibres to settle in better). And of course, you should add something like gelatin (animal skin glue) into the water which helps bind the fibres to each other much better
(I make paper for fun to recycle materials like banana peels, cotton pads and used paper)
Wow! It's been 2 yrs and I still can't be bothered to read all this. I wonder if you've made a vid yet.
I love that Lauren just brings natural happiness to the most random tasks like soaking sticks
I came to learn, I stay for Lauren
this is the sweetest comment ever!
Simp
How to Make Everything: ''I spent $228 to make paper from natural materials"
Primitive Technology: "YOU WHAT!?"
Primitive Technology has been AFK for over a year.
@@DirtyRobot I know, it's sad
@@DirtyRobot probably much movement restrictions atm because of covid.
@@BlackDragonWitheHawk More likely spending lots of time with family rather than being on his own property in the wilderness, while there's serious threat of getting ill and dying within just a few days from symptoms showing.
@@DirtyRobot ive read somewhere that hes filming for a tv show
Anyone else get super anxious when he was sawing that wood on his leg or just me?
I am not a violent man, but for his own safety he was going to be stopped no matter the cost
I was more concerned about the hammer head after I seen that cat wandering around 😂
@@JadeLeaf1980 That was also a concern, the first time it comes off, okay it was unexpected, but then he CONTINUES TO JUST SHOVE IT BACK ON. You have to do something to fix it first.
@@uvealpear7749 I was like OMFG thats been flying off the entire time and there was a cat wandering around? I’m surprised no one got hurt and a camera didn’t get smashed 😂
@@JadeLeaf1980 It was honestly incredible how nothing happened, just get some silicone man, it may still come off but it might do something.
Just a little conjecture, if y'all don't mind: when flax, nettle, and hemp are made into fibers, they're picked when they're green, dried, and then retted. Retting is when they're left in water not just to rehydrate the fibers but to literally cause the stiff outer fibers to rot and dissolve. Maybe the bark and hemp should be picked when they're green and retted? Nowadays, cotton is also used in paper due to its comparatively shorter and finer fibers; that might get y'all better results. Lastly, even in traditional paper-making, the mesh in the frame that lifts the pulp out of the mixture is _much_ finer.
"we start by boiling everything over a fire"
my brain immediately: FORBIDDEN SOUP!!!!
This episode is straight out of Ascendance of a Bookworm and I am here for it
Maine would be proud!
beat me to it
Just what was on my mind
@@MrrVlad he forgot the binding additive to strengthen and bond the fibers together. Rooky mistake like I stated before watch episodes 7 & 8 she even explain the need for it in the show.
I thought I might find my people here.
"Don't film this."
*Filming intensifies
Lol I never catch a break
Hi Ms lauren how cold is america out there? I kinda want to go there when i am a Ship Captain now... :/
Even in ancient times, making things was achieved through division of labor. There were clay miners and paper makers and leather tanners, etc. The only reason it takes you so much time and effort is that you are starting from scratch. Once established, economies of scale make continuing an industry relatively cheap.
Lauren is INCREDIBLE! She and Andy must have worked so hard on this! Good work you two!
wait, he showed us footage of him making the ad that had footage of him making the ad that had footage of him making the ad...
adception
69 likes, so i can't like sorry
Wth
Wtf
WTF
Cant believe they stumbled upon a wild “hemp” farm by those train tracks
Also featured in an old video. Andy surely has a farm 😂
Hemp spreads like weeds (and that's where the slang name is from). :) But if somewhere is a hemp farm then it is common to see wild hemp around it. Unless you live in Finland - here police comes to destroy the plants if they see hemp anywhere else than a hemp field.
The place they live is actually fairly well known for the industrial hemp weeding the entire state.
@@Pehmokettu Don’t the police have any actual crime to attend to in Finland?
@@Michael-Archonaeus nah, not every coutry is like america
Lauren trying to gather and soak mulberry branches is me trying to get through life in general.
"where do you work?"
"its complicated.."
*sawing entire log for hour with homemade saw intensifies
It's really interesting to see the stuff described in "Ascendance of a Bookworm" actually being done
I thought I was the only one who came here after reading the novel of Ascendance of a bookworm 😂
Same
One of the better isekais
I really2 hate the isekai troop, so much that I havent really been reading manga for the past 6 years or so, but that one is quite good, the isekai part had an actual purpose unlike the other ones. Though the mc being 'unrealistically self assured from the beginning' (so no room for character decelopment whatsoever) just like all the other isekais still drive me annoyed, at least her OBJECTIVES have rooms for progressions and that part is satisfying.
5:50 how to suture a wound using hemp fiber.
Definitely not a safe sawing technique.
So this is why the Declaration of Independence is so expensive 😂
Can't believe he actually got through all that wood with a completley blunt saw
Soft wood helps
ever thought about putting a better wedge in that hammer, before you reach the industrial era and add a steam engine to that potential safety hazard!
Just got to that part in the vid as I read your comment lol
Tbh i expect(not hoping) te last video of andy wil be when the hammerhead breaks his skull and dies instantly
@@8-UwU-8 brutal xD
He needs to reheat that metal wedge and then insert a handle. Then let the metal cool around the handle.
Yes the hammers need help, I would remake the handles so the top is bigger then the hole in the hammer head. Slide the head up the handle, as that is is bigger, the head wedges on and can't come off that end. Can't come off the other end as that is where you hold the handle.
I see you know the idiom "flying off the handle".
Finally someone actually making it “from scratch”
It's videos like these that shows how much of our modern inventions we take for granted. Like saw handles, and screws, and anvils, and wood planes.
I bet alec steel would cry if he saw those nails
It's ok. Imagine you at this instant being transported back 2000 years. We'd all make these nails. Any nail is better than nothing. Also it takes a LOT of practice
@@SF-li9kh with that technology I would not use nails...I would rely on woodworking joints.
Much easier to make and to master with simple tools
Last time I saw a nail made that badly, I had to go on a quest to get a smithing book for the nailmaker's Orc boss.
@@SimuLord Ah yes, The Last Scabbard of Akrash. An interesting book that.
On the contrary, I'm sure he'd be impressed that Andy had managed to make them at all.
I absolutely love how goofy Lauren is. She is the perfect edition to this channel and I hope she never leaves.
:') thank you so much!!
@@laurenapolis Yeah I think you add a lot to the show. Would you like be in charge of one project and lead Andy for a next time to make something that could find usefull or on a symbolic of humankind progress like idk a compas or something not directly usefull for industrial age. Good vibes from Belgium to Andy and you!!!!
Yeah way babe too!
Did the previous employees leave? I haven't seen them in recent videos i think
@@Obyvvatel yep they got different jobs
This channel is a perfect advertisement for the beauty of the free market
I just wanna thank you guys for everything you do. All the time and effort that goes into each of these videos. Ive been a fan for a few years, I think the most expensive sandwich was my first video seeing but since then I've went back and watched every video. This channel deserves so much more recognition and more views than it gets.
YES!!! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
Same
Ok smaw
"I've been waiting 4- no, 5000 thousand years for this!"
-Kars
Happy for u king
Yes
Just reading the thumbnail and I'm getting Ascendance of a Bookworm vibes. 😅
Minecraft: 3 sugarcane and 4 blocks of wood
Real life: Pain
To see this letters evolving was the most impressive thing. It was great to be part of. I love your paper making. I've seen mitsumata paper bush when I was in Japan. It can be seen in mid of part 4 of my Trip to japan videos on UA-cam. We could not imagine how much time it took to find out that you could make paper out of a tree.
When do you think they'll learn you need to drive a wedge into the wood at the head of the hammer to hold it on?
You can also just taper the handle and socket opposite to each other
@@eazy8579 Or you use the good old German method: Shape wood into an already tight fit. Drive wood into hammerhead. Insert hammerhead into water for 24h, wood expands. Perfect fit! If you drive a wedge into the wood before watering you can increase its strength to a level where it'll survive the bombing of Berlin in 1945. :D
Rub the hammerhead, but NOT the wood, with oil before watering for added rust-resistance.
Just use a big ole branch or a rock.
@@lonelywolf8388 That'll crush the fibers though. Once it dries out it will be loose.
Yay! Lauren is back 🙂
Andy, I once said I enjoy watching you working alone. This woman changed that.
When did she leave?
awww thank you :)
@@shipofbats9134 I just wasn't in the last few episodes!
Can you imagine going through all this process if you're out of paper at the loo?
Great video. Brings back memories of high school chemistry class. Making paper from bits of bark and dry leaves, ground with a mortar and pestle and strained into a beaker through filter paper. Thank you 😊
I think we can safely say Andy is no longer a "average person"
A piece of me died when I realized Lauren was using the khopesh to chop the hemp fibers lol. Now that you're in the iron age, might be time to upgrade your cutting/chopping tools too.
That would be logical, we can't have that! That's not the How To Make Everything way😂
You have no idea how greatfull I am of this video. I'm writing a book and one of the characters makes his own paper and this popped up in my feed just by chance. This has helped through writing this chapter so much.
The most amazing part is Andy knows exactly how to do all this stuff, but back then they had primitive tools AND had to figure it out on thier own
From his voice, I can tell that Andy is so proud of his saw from last episode
The things Andy makes are getting better. I used to call this channel "How to Make Everything... badly."
It still is
Of course it's bad it's from scratch they don't use machines
It still is tbh…
6:28 Is the smoothest transition I've ever seen y'all do. Very well done and good timing on the shot.
always in their crude and "meh.. it works" way 😂, cool video though.
This really highlights how fibrous modern paper actually is, almost like cloth, just on a micro scale
there is plenty of pretty durable paper clothing
I love how he compaired himself to Captain America ripping that log
Great episode! Good to see Lauren back, I think the channel is really improved by having her on board - you two both have great skills and complimentary (but different!) styles.
Are you going to use the paper to bind a book from scratch? Make your own woodblock prints? Design a simple printing press? I think most civilizations developed more complex trade, economies, taxes and a more organized society with paper, but I'm most interested in books!
It is truly a channel of Guttenbergs
You have to make some more videos, your videos are soo great and inspiring, keep up the good work guys!
I often wonder why you don’t “go a little bit further” in refining the things you make. I’ve only just realised, this is more period accurate. At the dawn of these technologies they would have never imagined the levels of accuracy we can make things to now.
But then, over 50-100 years, someone with talent would perfect it, learning it from his dad
Well, they are just too lazy to make the best version of what they made from their other videos and earlier attempts. At this point there would be whole blacksmiths with decent pottery and tables and anvils etc. It isn't just pure laziness though, it's expensive to make it as well.
I have to disagree with the accuracy comment. Ancient civilizations made extremely accurate and precise things all the time. The trades people depended on consumers to buy and use their products just like they do today. This sloppy excuse for paper would never have been acceptable as a finished product.
The thing that always bothers me about this channel is the blatant disregard for refinement and finishing work.
He was also using the mold upsidedown, and he didn't have a deckle. If they had chopped the fibers up before boiling it would have been much easier to beat to a pulp. It's things like that which indicate their level of dedication to the crafts they're attempting.
I doubt people werent tryig to pretty up their sht even f they didnt do it correctly i think thats just human nature.
you do realise that loose hammerhead could fly into your face on the upswing, right?
Next video should be making PPE
@William Paing Or he could handle them the other way around, wide part on top of the hammer head, handle down through the hole.
He hasn't Discovered Common Sense yet.
Cant use anything he hasn't Unlocked.
@@raymondbiskner6885 lol yeah this video was kinda painful to watch
@@ESkog man, this whole channel is kinda painful to watch. I love the concept, and it's amazing to see them learning so much, but a lot of it is borderline stressful to consume lol
3:58
"I swear, Officer, I'm just using it to make paper!"
"What a cool plant..."
"So what if I just..."
**CRUNCH**
2:57 ah yes, the classic camouflage jacket and high-vis combo xD
Her arms are invisible but I can see the rest of her pretty well
9:52 I think a wooden bowl would be a better choice for a wooden mortar and pestle. Also, the textile sieve you made is too lose. You want it woven tightly, so the water can escape, but not the fibers. It's better to wait more for the water to escape, than to have bits falling off. Also, it would be easier if you had two frames, one with sieve and one without, and get the sieve sandwiched between the frames, with the attached frame on the bottom. That way, after you get it out of the water, you just take away the detached frame and roll around the sieve onto the textile or leather you use to press the paper between.
As time progresses and history advances,
You are about to witness Andy's builds become more sturdier and sturdier
They "just happened" to know where those nicely trimmed "hemp" plants were!
can't wait till he is gonna make gunpowder and/or a musket!
The finished paper really looks like a tortilla! Especially when it’s folded as wrapping paper.
Ugh, dammit, now I want soft shell tacos.
I am from México and my pre hispanic soul start to just laugh
This is brilliant. Thank you for showing us how it use to be done.
>sticks bounce off ice
>Proceed to have a full blown asthmatic fit
I love who much effort you put in your vids and never clickbait us👊👍
This episode demonstrated quite well what I strongly dislike about this series. Hammers failing, crude bronze drill and knife, slightly too small ceramics, iron nails, damaging that nice kopesh...
It feels like you NEVER go back and make an improved version of a tool or object. The whole point of our technological development is 'make the tool to make the tool to make the tool'
Not 'make the tool, be happy with the first effort, and soldier on beyond it failing'
NO!
You make a crude tool, use it to make a better tool and USE IT TO MAKE A BETTER TOOL.
I'm amazed and glad for what this series has shown me, but damn! You got iron now, time to make a proper drill, a new utilityknife and a chisel. Woodworking tools will stay at the heart of this series for quite a while. Perhaps a quick trip back to ceramics and show us what you have learned now and make an upgrade as well?
Still, that paper was quite nice. Amazing you got it with that screen. Maybe try figuring out how to make fine wire next?
It sounds a bit harsh but I totally agree with you. I love HTME but they are holding themselves back by not remaking their tools to a better standard
Yeah they realy need to go and apply "new" tech to their old tech. And not only create the crudest version ever and say "lawl mastered" I really like the idea behind this series but each episode feels more half assed than then one before
This was so fun to watch. If you ever want to do a second revisit, which I will watch, a good intro project might be wood scrolls. Before paper was invented the ancient Chinese used strips of bamboo tied together. Its thought that that's why their writing goes up down instead of side to side, to write down the wood strips.
You did a great work! If you have done it in the spring while the water is runing trough the tree you would have goten an even better result! Great job guys!
Everytime I see a new htme video I go: Hmm lets see how much the mini god has accomplished in the last month
Probably the best videos Ive seen on yt was on this channel
Should definitely watch ascendance of a bookworm episodes 7 & 8. That will show you what he was missing from the process.
Anime relevance is now higher than ever in history this is mental.
Every time I see that 'rock as it was found' anvil, I look forward to the episode where they make a proper iron anvil.
Him:scratch
Me:tree,budget,time,and historical instruction.
2035: making paperless technology from scratch!!!!!
aliens are going to find this place and be like: "ah yes, this is proof humanity entered a second stone age and rebuilt it's self back up"
I'm having some health problems lately and I have an important exam tomorrow. This video is very entertaining ( like all of you guys videos) and it's helping me to distract a little bit. Thank you for your work. Is more important than you might think.
This is neat, I literally just learned about the Silk Road and the inventions that helped River Valley Civilizations be successful- also some inventions that helped make things easier, this was one f the things I learned about and I’m happy I get to see how it was actually made.
This reminds me a lot of the anime "Ascendance of the Bookworm"
This definitely reminds me of an anime called: The asceandence of a bookworm witch the whole first season she tries to make a book hahah
its a cool anime if anyone is interested
@@magixian1 where can I watch it?
@@zelokorLocalGodOfChaosAndBread it is on crunchyroll at least in my country
@@magixian1 thanks I'll check it out if I get the chance
@@zelokorLocalGodOfChaosAndBread no problem hope you like it
7:07 when steve puts an oak log in the 2x2 crafting grid to make wood planks
Y'all are getting better at this stuff!
ill never understand why any humans reached the minnesota area and said "yeah, ill live here year-round"
That's because you don't live here. As far as natural disasters and the like there's pretty much just tornadoes.
A lot of nordics and finns in Minnesota. They saw the lakes and the cold and realised they found their homeland again
This reminds me of a certain anime
it never ceases to amaze me how people figured these things out.. its the equvilant of me melting plastic a million times, but bewtween each cycle smashing it to bits then finally saying.. look.. the plastic was black.. its now white and a whiteboard..
I can see your determination and i hope you can get more than you have thought good luck on this journey
this is kinda like the paper you get when you leave paper in your pocket and wash your pants
10:00 I'm just pulled something that looked exactly like that from my bathroom drain
make paper with it
i was thinking of old roadkill lol.
Reflective vest over camo jacket.
Thank you Lauren, very cool.
This is really cool. Thanks for the great content.😁
7:50 "The forbidden chetto"
I read that as "the forbidden ghetto."
Honestly that sounds like a decent kung fu movie.
7:30 Pretty sure they didn't have propane gas forges at that time
No shit
Paper making can be fun, although I still haven't found a huge need in my life to make my own, but a skill that should not be lost to time. As well, like everything else, the more you do it the better you get and the more "shortcuts" and "cheats" you find to do it better. Most of my paper was always too rough to use modern day writing implements on as well. Over all however a great project and something most have no skills to do today.
I like the “midsommar” reference at
6:34. The hammer is spot on.
Say in english cop voice:
Finally making paper I see. Mhm very well then, carry on with whatever you are doing.
He is literally rejecting humanity and returning to monke
He is rejecting monke and returning to humanity
Being smart is one thing but being smart and resourceful now that's awesome
An alternative to the mulberry tree is bamboo. I'm still searching how it's made but it seems its used a natural soluble glue in the mix
Quick comment on your thumbnail, the year (BCE) is really small and hard to see, perhaps make it bigger?
"we continuied to boil and mash them" and did you.......stick'em in a stew??
You guys need one of those great big wooden mortars (like what they make mochi in)- it would make processing fiber and grain much easier
238 generations since Adam in case anyone wanted to know. People are smarter than you think and keep better records than many would like.