‘Free Speech Libertarian’ Goes FULL FASCIST Over Student Protests
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This is a clear reminder that non-violent protests do not exist in the eyes of the oppressors.
This is how they try to derail opposition all the time.
@@Rastaferrari829
But fascists have been exposed this time.
They said the same things about the 1960s civil rights movement etc.
Anyone who stands against protest is tongue-deep in the boots of their favorite fash daddy.
@@Abulhasan-lq5lyunfortunately they are the ruling class
@@bobbafett1849
Who has given legitimacy to this minority ruling class and they can't create chaos more to manipulate the majority because their facsit mentality have been exposed.
Robbie is insufferable.
Agreed!! Not much thought is put into his take.
@@MWhaleKso you find accurate well thought out information insufferable?
No wonder you agree with the low IQ Ahistorical takes of Robby the racist.
Robbie knows his counterpoint position is wrong. This program tries to always create an equal representation of both sides. It just doesn’t work anymore!
So was his predecessor.
Truth! He's been that way since he's been on. And, he's one of the reasons I don't watch the Hill anymore.
"You have a constitutional right to protest your government"
"No, not like that"
"No, not like that"
"No, not like that"
"No, not like that"..... and on and on.
Also, "No, not now." "No, not there."
@@1MarkKeller"No, not about that."
@@1MarkKeller “Freedom for me…but not for thee” or “Are we for free Speech ? Bwahahahahahahaha Of course we’re not” - today’s Reactionary Right Wing,
Literally how my reactionary roommate thinks. He constantly disagrees with protest because he doesn't think they're "going about it the right way", yet he can't offer an example of what the "right way" to protest is in his mind. He also thinks all protests are useless and ineffectual, that nothing ever changes, and that there is no point worrying about anything that doesn't immediately and directly affect you.
@@Briggsian he's moving the goalposts. "You're not doing it right, but I can't tell you what 'right' is, I just know it when I see it, and that's not it."
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.''
The victims of genocide are terrorist,
the perpetrators are victims.
Telling the truth is antisemitic.
With all due apologies to George Orwell. 😊😊
If the American people knew that most of their media outlets are funded by the Zionist movement to direct public opinion and mislead them on a daily basis, if someone follows the American media outlets, he will find that the news editorial paper is issued by the same editor, because the funder is the same, of course. The matter is not only related to Palestine. This is about Americans having to know who they actually pay taxes for, how institutions here are funded, and whether Americans actually benefit from the way this system is run.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a Semitic State
- Engage in Apartheid/Genocide
- To speak,act against it
- Is Anti Semitic or Pro Freedom?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings better question: if one human being kills another on the basis of superstition (bible/Torah/Koran) or on the basis of pseudo science (race - every human is 99.9997% the same genes and DNA) is that not murder? Genocide is just murder dressed up in excuse. War is just theft writ large, except for defence under the strict UN definition.
Spare a thought for the Holocaust survivors protesting against this genocide and getting beaten up by Israeli cops.
Well said
As an old white man on the ass end of his 50's, thank you so much for shedding light and information on this issue. It truly is a deafening echo of the late 80's apartheid/divestment protests. The kids are alright.
Yep
Yup. Young people are definitely on the side of justice and peace. I support them fully.
We know who the golden ones are. ❤
bot
@@bobby5678-ck2tc we know you are, no need to announce it.
The people who wouldn't shut the fuck up about cancel culture have been awfully quiet since October.
Gyaaat, this needs to be a bumper sticker
Not only that, they have become pro cancel culture. With the ban of tik Tok, apparently for showing actual picture of Gaza.
Well said, well said indeed!!
This Robbie idiot literally wrote a book complaining about safe spaces and now he cares about how students feel? Make it make sense.
The is the same situation where universities are torn between pro-free speech and pro-cancel culture.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John F. Kennedy, March 13, 1962
Irony is, JFK was responsible for violent revolution in South America.
@ezechialtaylor2331and that led to the sites in Gaza today.
America is there.
@@TmanRock9no, Israel was always planning on destroying Gaza, and they have said so for decades.
@@user-ey2xp2ge9y Palestine has always planned on destroying Israel and they have said so for nearly a century.
Robby is auditioning for a job at Fox 🙄
Nahh, that's a Newsmax audition at best
@@1MarkKeller*truth social
@@makeitrainnaren Daily Wire. Someone has to change Matt Walsh's diaper.
That didn't work out for Sagaar so Robbie's got no chance.
Or the daily wire
It's so satisfying seeing Robbie get shit on in all the comment sections
I seriously can’t watch that channel (not to be rude), but the few times I did, I always felt like the comment section was always hating on Bri. If they are on her side for once, that makes me happy. I got a sense that the people who watched that channel watch just to hate watch on Bri and that made me feel for her.
Your literally on far left M4RX1ST channel?
@@Radv13 I think the op meant this comment section. Rising's comment section is full of Crowder clones. It's horrible. I went there once and I'm still trying to forget it.
@@armondtanz You're literally stating your opinion as fact in the form of a question like a coward?
@@furiousapplesack yup. Looks tha way bud.
Debated libertarians before. They love to appear intelligent and level headed, even progressive at times. Then suddenly they will go full far right nutbag. Their core beliefs are not progressive
I noticed.
I don't know how universal this is, but I've noticed it too. I think their core beliefs are super backwards & conservative. Ironically they seem pretty liberal in regards to race, at least blkness. Yet they get heckled the most for it. 🤦🏻♀
Their core beliefs are nonsense!
They're stuck in a world of, how it 'should" be, reality is what,IS!😮😅😊
Robby doesn't believe in free speech or the constitutional right to protest, when the protests are not in his favor.
Your a mirror image of Booby when the protests aren't in your
favor.
If you're surprised at how bad Robbie is, then you're not very smart. Robbie is almost always awful on EVERYTHING.
What does intelligence have to do with familiarity with a rightwing cohost?
He's worse than Saagar and Emily combined.
Yes l stopped watching the Hill because of Robbie.
@@MichaelAronson he's worse than that - he's the 'moderate more interested in peace than justice' that MLK warned us was the greatest impediment to freedom.
@@MichaelAronson exactly some people have never heard of the
P rat 🐀
Robby is an internet troll, but in real life.
😂😂
That's what it feels like haha he either backtracks or gives very lukewarm responses/nonopinions
He's acts like a privileged rich kid in an 80s movie
So, essentially he’s an American version of Milo YahImadumarse ? Ooh boy 😑🤦♂️
@@chah80 Right? Exactly, lol.
Act shocked, libertarians want More "freedom" for corporation and racists, that's it
“...corporations?”
And parents to sell their daughters off to them as child brides
@@keirfarnum6811 Not totally wrong, you should check out how crazy Neo Reactionaries (NRx) are (I recommend having something to drink while researching those cats) They want to eliminate Democracy for a Tech based monarchy…for starters
@@keirfarnum6811”goverments that don’t have to hide the money they make.”
You know. Corporations.
@@keirfarnum6811 You don't know what a corporation is? 😂
That Robbie reminds me of all the racists I've met in my local gay community. He really looks like the type of guy who would write "I'm only into white guys, it's just a preference" on his Grindr.
Sounds like you just are mad cuz you can't bag a white guy.
This
To be fair people are under no obligation to date people who they aren't sexually attracted to.
@peopleofearth6250 This^ I'm a bi girl, I've dated mostly black but I'm sick of this expectation that people should date outside their preferences or get called the r word. That word has lost all meaning.
The non-stop Hasbara you see about literally everything about this genocide is incredible.
It really is. It has been amazing to watch. And in the process we have learned so much about the Jewish psyche. They got my attention after 9/11. I have been watching them closely ever since. Learning about their customs and religion.
He’s so disingenuous
"They say,"We are not accountable for whatsoever we may do to the Gentiles."And thus speak untruth about Allah/Creator while they know it."
Holy Quran (3:75)
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Cool so clearly genocide is called for then. Good to know.
ROBBY DEFINITELY GETTING AN ISRAELI CHECK
AIPAC money 💰 😂😂😂😂😂
He's a libertarian, he's a ghoul for free.
@@RunningMan40510 Traitor $.
Maybe they promised him a job at fox or the daily wire if he proves he's a good goy. I mean a good boy*
Mediocre White Guy™©® didn't come to the discussion prepared, but his interlocutor did her homework and came to the talk ready to fight for basic human decency. Bravo.
I don't love insults based on race, even if this guy sucks
@@drewpeacock9087 Good, because it's not. It's a genuine pattern of behavior that's been optimized by systemic racism where a mediocre person is elevated into a position of influence because they're white and whiteness is a favored trait in our society.
It's a shorthand way of calling out the injustice that many knowledgeable people of color have to fight against every day of their lives.
Robby is libertarian because he hate the age of consent. He just pretends on the other libertarian stuff.
So he's like every other right wing libertarian?
@@Sunflowrrunner pretty much
Emma literally said "I dont censor kids" ????
Where is her scalding?
He likely hates the estate tax
@@macersracers7459 any1 with an estate would lol
Robby is beyond redemption at this point.
Robbie should quit and find himself a far right channel that suits his narratives
He already has. It's called "the hill"
No. He shouldn't. Why would he even listen to YOU??
NewsMax and RSBN is always hiring.
What of the fire at Reason HQs?
Because the comment was spot on. Being obtuse and cibtrarian for no reason isn't a flex.
Here’s why the Right of Return is important:
I could convert to Judaism and apply for citizenship in Israel, but the Palestinians who were forced out of their homes can’t get back into Israel at all. I’m Native American with absolutely no connection whatsoever to that country and I could get in easier than the people who lived there before the zionists chased them out using military force.
The Israelis claim a Right to Return to their ancestral homeland and deny the Palestinians the right to return to the homeland they were personally chased out of in the last 70 years, not two millennia ago. It’s utter bullshit.
If you applied that same thing here in the US, everyone living in Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas and Oklahoma would have to move out of my ancestral lands.
That land is NOT the ancestral homeland of the Jews...
That land belonged to the Canaanites before the jews slaughtered their women and children in the most horrific ways possible.
The entire beginning of judaism is based on genocide.
@@user-ey2xp2ge9y And now they are doing it again. It is their religion.
@@kindGSLit is in the Talmud, not the torah.
@@user-ey2xp2ge9y That’s questionable. There doesn’t appear to be any archaeological evidence of it. The work of Israel Finkelstein has proven there was evidence of the cities claimed to be conquered by Joshua, but he would have had to live 300+ years to have done it personally.
And that ignores the fact that Kadesh, in modern-day Syria, was the northern border of Egypt from the reign of Thutmose II to Ramesses III, stretching from the 15th century bc to the 11th century bc. Modern-day Israel was in Egypt from the early 18th dynasty to the early 20th dynasty. The reference to the Hebirru as mercenaries from the region in the Amarna letters suggests that there may not have been any sort of conquest at all. The reference to “Israel” by name on the Mereneptah stele among the rebellious locals put down by the son of Ramesses II would suggest that the story as presented may be mythological or legendary, rather than factual, since Israel was not adopted as a name until after the death of Moses in Exodus.
Robbie is the reason I stopped watching Rising like 5 months ago.
I stopped watching regularly after Krystal and Sagar left and completely after Ryan Grim left. Kim was horrible, too.
SAME. I can't stand him.
@@CCEkekeI can't stand her.
Yeah I stopped watching last year when he screamed and cursed at Brie, instead of debating her.
@@charlesscott4722I mean, why does he even still have the job after that honestly
The Hill has been so, so bad for so, so long. Unwatchable.
Ever since Kim and Grim left...
Brie is not unwatchable.
Brianna keeps it watchable for me, but Robby is repulsive.
@@shyfticKim is as dumb and unwatchable as Robby
@@mandyharewood886Brie has her own show on UA-cam.
so I don't need to support Robby to watch her.
Robbie is the type to defend faculty members being fired for showing a Pixar film, but not for one actively trying
to dox or push for the National Guard to step in to silence students.
Dude is just a walking talking L of a man.
Libertarians are the funniest people to me, only second to the "free market" stans
Aren’t they one and the same?
I like how she caught him pushing a lie and Robbie doesn't even try to address that, just starts trying to change the narrative in real-time. That's not even moving the goal post he straight up tried to act like he said something else. 😅
Straight sociopathic behavior.
He does it in nearly every segment. Completely shameless
He just a trolls troll that’s all just for the sake of it
@@SADGOD633 well it’s for money mostly
@@princejellyfish3945 anything for money right?
they don't want people waking up
Speaking truth to power is NOT a Jewish religious value, quite the contrary. Neither is free speech.
Robbie perpetually looks like he's about to cuss out the help.
😂💯
He thinks that's what Brianna is. 🙄
But he knows better. He's an overwhelmingly unlikable twerp. The fact she doesn't cuss his mother every broadcast is a testament to her character.
Ive said this about "free speechers" for decades they mean "free speech for me not for thee"
Sounds like the way jews will get to murder defenseless civilians but Hamas gets the blame
I'm a little older. I've lived through the Reagan years and now the Trump years. I've been pretty discouraged by what has been happening in this country but seeing what you guys do and now these young adult students on campuses gives me a glimmer of hope for our future. Thank you.
Trump has moved the Republicans so far to the right, Ronnie would be _Too Liberal_ for today’s Republicans
Yeah me too. Funny, I just watched a short doc on Iran-Contra. Really brought back some memories seeing Reagan strutting around, lying to reporters. When I was in school students used to wear buttons that said: "Cut Off Reagan's Arms" with a missel silhouette in the back ground..
Robby Soave was on Chapo Trap House wayyyy back in 2016-17. It quickly became clear that he had very little understanding of the implications of libertarianism, and did not appear to have any strong beliefs at all. I had hoped time would show him the error of his ways, and that he might actually mature into a decent person. Obviously, he has taken a... different path. I have now abandoned all hope of his redemption, he is truly lost. His CTH interview can still be found fairly easily on UA-cam, well worth a listen IMO.
Its crazy how some people calling for punishment for students cause they speak out
America has quite literally never had free speech.
You're right, because if you make threats the government can go after you for it, that's a use of speech, typically however the government doesn't go after folks for saying things, unless it's a threat.
They talk about Democracy
All I see is hypocrisy
Malcolm X
@@nom_chompsky Except that's not because of the government cracking down on speech, it's because supporters of Israel are lying about what's going on at these protests, claiming they are being threatened and shi, Which yes, threatening anyone is illegal and will resort in protests being shut down. It's an old tactic that has been used many times prior, along with acts of "criminality" like how the BLM riots started because some masked umbrella man smashed an Autozone window, which cops took advantage of to go after protesters.
@@nom_chompsky More often than not, it does, this whole crackdown on anti Israel protests is new. To me it's a very clear sign that liberals are embracing fascism, betraying the left yet again.
@@nom_chompsky
The actual legal system and cops fascistic enforcement actions are also two completely different things.
Centrists, libertarians and conservatives showing their true fascist colors.
Fairly sure their true colors came out in '09 with the viewer climb in guano media.
They fly similar colors more often than people think.
censorship is one of the fascist's greatest weapons. The left are masters at censorship
@@NoThatRyan Its not that uncommon for people that align with the libertarian party have tattoos like iron crosses and twin bolts. aligning with the white nationalist Zist movement is kind of a given.
Yet you're okay with the silencing of opposition voices in universities, for example. That's fascism.
Robby is a while nationalist and always was
White boyZ R white nationalists until they concretely declare it to be otherwise. That's not philosophical - it's just how AmeriKKKa works (And in case you're wondering, I'm a WMF too, but a reformed one who has taken a stand against W.N.)
"Freedom for speech of which I approve." Every time. All the time.
That seems to be a philosophy of the left. Let's not pretend that you've suddenly had an epiphany and love free speech in its totality.
14 million children living in poverty in America!! The Mind boggles!!!
Peaceful protests really send those supposed free speech warriors squealing!
Are you telling me you scratch a free speech absolutist and you find a fascist? I’m shocked - shocked I tell you!
The hill is garbage. I think some are getting too away from topic. You are either FOR genocide, or you are AGAINST it, period. It is f'n wrong REGARDLESS of who is doing it or who it's being done to.
Where was he when Islamophobia became a very real issue since 9/11?
I've only watched Rising on occasion, depending on the subject, but every time I have Brianna has been on point not smiling and nodding while her cohost spouted nonsense like Krystal Ball did. The other day I made the mistake of looking at the comment section and it was all racist, misogynist swill aimed right at Brianna. It was the worst I've ever seen. I don't know how she takes it but she deserves so much better. We should send love and support her way.
Not so free speech after all
I once served on a water commission as a member of the Pacific Green party, serving alongside a Libertarian commissioner. He once jokingly told me "Greens are like watermelons- scratch the surface and you find a Red underneath." I told him "scratch a Libertarian and you'll find a John Bircher underneath."
Boys who continue to be libertarian after the age of 18 are stunted in mental growth.
I’ve never seen a female libertarian…
The mom of one of my friends in high school was. She was a weird conspiracy and antivaxxer theorist from Florida, though (ahead of her time, apparently, as this was the 2000s).
I have unfortunately met many
@@GothMusicLatinAmerica Sounds like a sov-cit crystal mommy with a rapture fetish that said they were libertarian in public without actually being one.
Lol go out and you will
@@babyqueenxo I meet a LOT of people, actually.
Some of us have jobs and hobbies and communities we interact with.
The most peaceful police forces in the world are defending the most moral army in the world.
🤣
Robbie has always rubbed me the wrong way but yikes...
He’s got the Ben Shapiro voice down pact.
More than just the voice lol
Wait, american reichwing's adoption of libertarianism was entirely a means to an end?
No way....
It's always the ones you most expect
Libertarians forget they don't have the right to not get belted for saying this stuff.
Her last look was "we are about to engage in fisticuffs "
Bro, you've never been in a fight in your life
@@juliandicks6822 GOP. Gaslight Obstruct Project. I guess we know how many fights you've been in, huh?
@@ThompsonFlash9999 "everyone I don't like is a Republican". Btw, you know Emma went to private school right?
@@juliandicks6822 buddy, are you ok? "Oh, what, you think I'm a far right whackjob because I unironically still use 'soy' as an insult like it's 2010 still? You think just because I use outdated rightwing terminology that I'm an out of touch rightwinger?" LMAO
Also, stop creeping on Emma, creep.
One upside of their absurd overreactions and exaggerations about the campus protests is that they are accidentally increasing the protesters' leverage. At Columbia, they now have leverage over whether classes are in-person. At USC, they now have leverage over the graduation ceremony and future major events.
Huh? Where did you get that idea from
@@OscarLangleySoryu The universities are making the persistence of the protests more costly to themselves by believing their own exaggerations and actively worsening their product in the name of safety. This *incentivizes* negotiating with the protest organizers - meeting their demands will enable the university to go back to normal. Literally the whole point is to disrupt and the university overreactions are so much more disruptive than the encampments could hope to be on their own.
@@DaPhunkeeFeel1 it seems to me like the university administration wants to make a spectacle and make themselves out to be victims by punishing the students like this. Where is the leverage
Good clarification!@@DaPhunkeeFeel1
@@DaPhunkeeFeel1their demands are rather ridiculous and there is no reason they should be met. They can just have the city keep arresting them for trespassing and disturbing the peace until they are in prison for good. Much less costly on their part compared to the price the protesters would have to pay. Last I checked the school is functioning normally but I could be wrong, but the police are a quick phone call away and violent force can be used to break up such a mob.
Everybody hates Robbie.
What nonsense. Lunatic leftists making unfounded statements. I love him.
I think even Robbie’s parents hate Robbie
@Aussie1964 then you're a centrist dork just like him
@Aussie1964 then you're just as much of an ineffectual centrist dork as he is
In the end, Briahna's stuned look at Robby's baffle babble nonsense was precious. I was as much aghast as her trying to make some sort of sense of what he had said
Suddenly the blue haired people are violent and scary to these guys
Lies, bullshit, lies bullshit, that's all these people who are against the Palestinian freedom have. That's it. And why bother talking with a 4th grader about this hugely important issue?
Robby is a demon
dope!
Bri is a woke muppet. This is what happens when you hire under quotas and affirmative action. You get nutjobs like her, Kamala and Karine Jean-Pierre.
A Clown .. hardly demonic.
@@whtwht Bri is a demon and a clown.
@@whtwhtclowns are at least supposed to be humorous. robby has consistently been siding with a genocidal regime, i think that enters demon territory. he’s a « journalist » who never seems to know what he’s talking about
The Hill is a live action student newspaper. It’s fucking terrible.
LOL. This is the best description of the HILL......ever! Lol. Thank you!!
Go read the Arab daily then
@@EoamerGaming97 you're babbling. Do better.
@@EoamerGaming97 Racism out of nowhere lol
@@EoamerGaming97 I do read it and its still better than the hill...
Imagine going to work and having to talk to Robby everyday.
When you say " Im for free speech" and the word that follows is "but" then you're not for free speech.
No sane person is a free speech absolutist
Amen! (said the atheist…)
Free speech doesn't cover plans for harming others, or promoting groups that plan to hurt others.
Therefore, racist groups like the KKK and proud boys DO NOT have a right to free speech. Their speech is intended to harm others.
I'm a free speech absolutist in terms of the legal system, but if you're a racist, society should peacefully tell you to fuck off. I want social punishments for hate speech, not legal ones
I watched the hill for like a week 3-4 months ago and I always thought the guy was a troll
Some said at the beginning: a few protesters have said tnings ww think are anti-Semitic, so shut down that protest.
Also them: we shut down a protest therefore all protests are bad and must be shut down.
Bri pretty much always hands Robby his ass. He can’t stand being called out for his hypocrisy. He’s actually screamed st her on air because he can’t handle getting his ass kicked.
RM is gonna be pissed at Robby, "whooooo got his Asssss..."Alex jones
RM's "Robbie and Brie" AI songs should be #1 on the charts
Robby and Brie. Brie and Robby. Lanadelray, lanadelray. Praisegod
Wild because most prominent libertarians of yore, for all of their issues, were at least Israel-critical
Word. Murray Rothbard was an overt antizionist, calling for an unrestricted right of return for Palestinian refugees. There is nothing libertarian about a state that exists for the benefit of one group of people only, and forcibly keeps others out of its territory.
11:15 Love how he's basically like, "Pftt, you found a "fact" to support your "position," how typical." lol, dude is like a toddler pitching a fit. And I love how Bri just sat there grinning at him and letting him stew in his own stink awkwardly.
What a spineless little coward. The SECOND he gets called out for completely misrepresenting the situation, he folds in half.
Having designated spokespeople is genius.
Robbie must really hate himself when he is alone with his thoughts
If he has thoughts.
I cant think of the time that historians looked back and said "Yeah that time the cops turn the fire hose on the college students, that was a good call."
Were looking at the saying " history doesn't often repeat, but it certainly rhymes ", and a lot of these people are going to have to live with the fact that they were "the baddies"
That's because the average US libertarian doesn't have any real understanding of its philosophical premises, let alone any conviction deriving from them. Rather, he is a rich kid who likes the perks that come with having won the lottery of birth and wants them preserved and enhanced, but also wants to do drugs without government interference.
Actually, this is very consistent libertarianism, they believe that private properties owners should have the absolute right to do with their property as they wish, which includes crushing student and worker led protests against Zionism, White Supremacy, and Capitalism. Libertarianism is just a nicer form of Fascism.
The guy in glasses tie is absolutely atrocious, looks like he spilled coffee all over it. Other than that, glad he failed at his attempts to misrepresent facts.
I’ve talked to enough depressing people similar to Robbie to wonder if he is even capable of seeing his hypocrisy & lack of reason. Attacking his statements is important for educating others, but he may not be open-minded enough to understand. 😢
Robbie said something vile and horrible? I guess the sky is still blue.
I'm a libertarian. I *strongly* disagree with Robby on this issue. For the life of me I don't understand libertarians defending the authoritarian, apartheid Israeli regime. I enjoy watching Bre destroy him with facts and logic.
Just to add these students are absolutely amazing. I’m a Gen X and so proud of them, Gen Z are brilliant! 👏👏👏💪
Robbie is dangerous because he's dim witted and bigoted at the same time. Terrible combination.
To be perfectly clear to those pearl-clutching over the universities' "educational integrity" being compromised while clearly unfamiliar with the typical academic schedule -- it is the end of April...in most if not all cases, the only things left are reading week (no lectures to leave time for studying) and final exams. The educational offerings have already concluded, all that's left would have been evaluating performance
11:16 i fucking lost it at the way she just stared at him lmao i laughed so hard
Robbyyyyyyyy stop it.
A pure libertarian would be all for the anti-war protests.
These campus protests remind me of the Vietnam War protests of the 60s and 70s.
That’s brilliant to have a spokesperson because you are absolutely right, the media would say that Occupy didn’t know why they were protesting and didn’t have clear demands.
*AUSTRALIAN* here, with an outsiders perspective/observation on American Libertarians and why it matters.*
They are always howling about Freedom, Liberty and the Slippery Slope to Authoritarianism when in fact they are only ever talking about *THEIR* Freedoms, *THEIR* Liberties and *THEIR RIGHT* to throw everyone else over the cliff of Authoritarianism.
My way of describing them is a simple way is: *_"Libertarians demand the Liberty to strip other's of their Liberties"_*
And so you all know - I went to college in America (late 80s) and even back then you could see that the American population (in general) was unaware of the threat the Libertarians were. One of the Koch brothers ran on the Libertarian ticket (as a potential VP) *AGAINST* Reagan claiming Reagan wasn't going far enough. I did engineering NOT poly-sci with no real interest in American politics BUT EVEN BACK THEN it was obvious how much of a future threat these people were. *FURTHER,* there are several Australian Libertarian Think Tanks (e.g. The Institute of Public Affairs) whose power and influence is growing through the support of American Libertarian Think Tanks.
As to why American politics matters now (in 2024).
*1)* I care about America and have a lot of good friends there.
*2)* American is still Australia's most important trading and security partner. Simply put Australia cannot afford to America fail and in that Canada, Mexico, Japan, South Korea, Britain and a few other can't either.
*3)* America is still about 25% of the worlds economy and if it gets messed up by these clowns then the whole world suffers the consequences BECAUSE the US Dollar ($USD) is still the World's reserve currency and most of our international trade is either done in $USD or the currency conversions involve $USD or are backed by $USD. *So if these clowns DESTABILIZE the $USD by being stupid (which they are), then its really bad for the other 7.6 Billion people on the planet.* All international trade goes away. Its even bad for pariah countries like Iran, Russia and North Korea because even they do business in $USD.
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I would say that is a position of the left, given all the disruptions of speakers of conservative viewpoints, threatening violence and causing vandalism just because you disagree with them
If the current stopping of free speech is fascist then so are the attempted shutting down of the other speakers. Fascism as well.
Brilliant economic description of why the American economy is so strong. And I will add, it always will be. That is due to a great many reasons, like our ports, rivers, forests, farmlands, industries and well educated people. We are a very rich country. Also we have people here from EVERYWHERE. I live in the San Francisco East Bay Area, it is a very diverse area. You are spot on with your description of Libertarians. I got acquainted with them when I became a pot activist. They want to legalize prostitution. In my opinion that means legalizing rape, torture, human trafficking and sexual slavery. I sure don't approve of that. Not at all!
Fun fact, David Koch came to my house and met me in my front yard. I shook hands with him. Later I learned who he was and realized that it had been a job interview. I could have been the next Sarah Palin! I flunked the test when I told him we had to get off of oil. But he came to my house, one of the richest men in the world. I was very flattered. I considered it a visit from the antichrist. Back then I also looked a lot like his wife. I consider the whole thing extremely amusing.
The USD will not be destabilized for all the reasons you mentioned. It will only be deflated. I can not imagine the scenario that would destroy the USD. We are just not going to allow that to happen. The closest they get are those stupid refusal to fund the government shutdowns over the budget that congress keeps pulling. They are always bluffing. Every time they find some solution. It is baked into the cake. And we are not going to have a civil war. That is a demented fantasy. It ain't gonna happen.
@@clairewright332 Simple answer is _"Not really"_
Its Left of the Libertarian view but America basically does NOT know what a real Left is in the first place because both your major parties are fundamentally to the political Right. America never had a union based political party like British Labor or Australian Labor. American has the Democrats who started in the South and were so far to the Right the Klu Klux Klan was formed out of them. The Republicans under Lincoln freed the slaves while the modern Republicans would re-introduce slavery in a heartbeat. Obama famously admitted his economics were in line with Ronald Reagan's. America doesn't have Left and Right it has Right and Far Right.
Don't panic in Australia right now we refer to our parties as SHlT (Lib Nat Coalition) and SHlT LITE (Australian Labor).
BUT what America does have that's similar to everywhere else is they have to political sides that basically see each other as the nations greatest threat. A couple of years ago there was a comment attributed to Johnathon Haidt that basically went _"There's a cacophony where the Radical Left and Radical Right just scream at each other while the rest of us, trapped in the middle, are simply exhausted."_
I think that's essentially true in almost every developed nation right now. Each side just screams at each other and its exhausted the rest of us. Its very true in Australia and from what I can see Britain, New Zealand and Canada as well. Every public debate is framed in the context of "Its their fault because they are terrible and a threat to our way of life, our freedoms and our basic rights." You often hear lines like "We have to take our country back!" I even heard that from One of the New Zealand politicians recently and their politics is usually tame compared to ours.
Fueling it all is a media (all of them) that's totally (and often fanatically) obsessed with attention. They will do anything to get their audience's attention and then lock it down with the right social media tags.
AND IF a story isn't burning bright enough they will throw rocket fuel at it until it does.
AND IF it causes both sides to be outraged at scream even louder at each other they see that as an invitation to throw even more rocket fuel at it.
@@kindGSL I largely agree except that what you are doing is EXACTLY what so many other Americans do. You believe that America cannot fall and yet it almost did on January 6th. You had a President totally out of control and NOBODY willing to reign him in. That's as dangerous as it gets.
I agree 100% it will be very hard to break America but you can break anything if you really want to.
Since then American has utterly FAILED to deal with him and this is part of an ongoing issue with America NOT holding its top echelon accountable. Nobody at the top was held accountable for the invasion of Iraq. Nobody at the top was held accountable for the prisoner abuse scandals at Abu Ghraib and Bagram AFB. Nobody at the top was held accountable for the 2007/08 GFC. On that there's a PBS Frontline on it where Lanny Breuer (Eric Holder's Deputy) says straight to the camera they chose NOT to pursue charges against the Wall St CEO's for economic reasons.
Mitch McConnell could have simply said "NO, this is too much." and simply impeached Trump after January 6th and disqualified him from future office.
I went to college In America and had these sorts of discussions 30+ years ago. I've heard all about the systems of "Checks & Balances" that would never fail and allow someone like Trump to do what he did. What NOBODY has grasped is that we are NOT living in the 80s or 90s when these systems still worked. Reagan was held accountable for Iran-Contra. I was in college in America as that went on. Bill Clinton lied about getting blown and was held accountable. Then 9/11 changed everything and ever since America's systems have slowly been broken.
Back in the 80s or 90s if anyone had told an American that in their lifetime they'd see an enraged mob storm the capital chanting "Hang the Vice President!" they would have called you crazy and yet that happened and NONE of the instigators have been held accountable.
If you had told anyone back in the 80s or 90s that half of Oregon wanted to split away and join Idaho they would have called you crazy but that is happening right now.
American's are always talking about the "slippery slope."
Well News Flash you are already on that slippery slope and sliding.
The only question is how far will you slide before you wake up.
And so we are totally fair Australia is doing the same sorts of stupid things and its mostly because we have had a lot of people go to places like Harvard and Yale and they wave their degrees in our faces *AS PROOF* of their irrefutable expertise. We have stuff going on here RIGHT NOW that could easily break our nation.
Societies are fragile things and can break if you aren't careful.
Robby Soave almost makes you miss Saagar.
And remember...most police departments have sent administrators and trainers to Israel (thanks ADL) for "exchanges" and trainings.
Also, the NYPD has a office/outpost in Tel Aviv...
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I specifically stopped watching the hill because I truly cannot stand Robbie. Not just how off putting his personality is, how continuously lazy his commentary is, but I honestly believe he is truly not a good human. He is consistently on the side of greed, money and against humanity in general and his commentary is psychotic sometimes. I cannot watch a single minute of that man speak.
Free Speechers are full of BS. When they cancel you, it’s because your situation is “different.”
He’s so insufferable & very disrespectful to her as a cohost. I’ve seen him cut her off and get pretty nasty with her. Hate this guy!
Chapo has correctly called him out as a scat-merchant since episode 17.
100%
more like glibertarian eh robbie
Why the hell should Police be involved - it is a matter between University management and their students, it is a civil matter nothing to do with Police.
she destroys him with facts and history
Aaron Bushnell was the direct result of a lack of an effective supported method to protest in the institution he was affiliated with.
Any demand to denormalize these protests anywhere is dangerous.
The people who are fighting to keep these protests alive in those institutions are what’s keeping many individuals from taking an extreme step like the one he took.
Why Not Simply Demand : "Boycott "Apartheid Isreal ?
Learn how to spell Israel!
I just want to point out that _"libertarians"_ *_literally_** co-opted and stole the term **_'libertarian'._*
'Libertarian' used to be a term that *near **_universally_* referred to the *_Anarchist Left._*
Thank you Gaza, you provides the world with a test case to uncover everyone and show for what they really stands for and expose their hypocrisy or their integrity.
So Roby says that theyre doing violence to Jewish students, but he doesn't want the cops called? So he's in favor of violence going unpunished? Oh right he's a right winger that cecks out.
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@dynamicworlds1 not much violence. To arrest and talk is to distract from genocide by terror state of israel 7:52
Awesome ...the man behind the myth 😅Nice to actually see you on air