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Weapon Rarity Vs Pack-A-Punch: Which is Better? | Modern Warfare 3 Zombies

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  • OneAverageDan breaks down weapon rarity and pack-a-punch and exactly how the damage stacks and works together in MW3 Zombies.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 108

  • @ignis_infinitus_infernus
    @ignis_infinitus_infernus 7 місяців тому +48

    Someone needs to tell the shotguns, they missed the memo of 16× damage.

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому +15

      Haha! All expect the Lockwood 680 with regular slugs… true me

    • @TheCertifiedGoon
      @TheCertifiedGoon 7 місяців тому +2

      @@OneAverageDan lmao, yeah Me and at least 50 mega abominations would know that quite well

    • @alonsotorres5264
      @alonsotorres5264 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@OneAverageDanbolo rounds or slugs. I love shotguns but they are way too underwhelming.

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  6 місяців тому

      @@TheCertifiedGoon I hope they make more shotguns useable in zombies, would love an auto shotgun

  • @ravenshrike
    @ravenshrike 7 місяців тому +33

    Legendary tools are more important, because you can always get PaP in game without RNG. If the choice is going in with a Flawless Crystal or Legendary Aether Tool, pick the tool.

    • @jaymills6691
      @jaymills6691 7 місяців тому +3

      Sure but the question was which is better not which is harder to obtain.

    • @haotianzhang9374
      @haotianzhang9374 7 місяців тому

      Does destroying aether orbs always give you a tool?
      I did it several times and got a bunch of uncommon in t1 and legendary in t3

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      Yep Pap 3 can easily be obtained every round with 30,000 essence, just takes a bit of time

    • @SamTheAwesomePaiva
      @SamTheAwesomePaiva 6 місяців тому

      he says that in the video

  • @HillbillyJedi88
    @HillbillyJedi88 7 місяців тому +6

    Play a lot of zombies and noticed the same. PAP you can buy, rarity you can't so I always take a tool over a crystal if the ruck is getting full on the way out. Unless it's a refined crystal vs. a green tool but I prioritize the tools for exfil.

  • @scottdoulen8331
    @scottdoulen8331 7 місяців тому +19

    Distance plays a role here also and should be mentioned. There is 3 tiers here. Max, medium and minimum. If ur inside ur max range ur doing full damage. Outside of max range ur doing medium damage and outside of minimum range ur doing minimum. Each gun is different and you can change these ranges with barrels, high grain rounds ECT... Iv never seen a video of how much the dropoff in damage is. He is shooting from pretty far here prob close to minimum range but could be in medium.

    • @tvbandit115
      @tvbandit115 7 місяців тому +2

      Xclusive Ace shows this for every weapon but im not 100% sure if multiplayer and zombies has the exact same range values. I just assume they are equivalent

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому +2

      Yeah this is a good point. I believe this is medium range as I built this gun for range not for zombies. But the point of the video is to show how damage stacks and even multiplies when you combine pack-a-punch with weapon rarity.
      As far as max damage goes, if I was 10m or closer it would be more damage for sure

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      @@tvbandit115 I think it works the same. ExclusiveAce and JGOD are goats in that arena for sure

  • @maniacman7774
    @maniacman7774 7 місяців тому +9

    I always think of weapon rarity and pap levels just like how they are in Cold war zombies
    White: x1
    Green: x1.5
    Blue: x2
    Purple: x3
    Gold: x4
    And for pack a punch
    Pack1: x2
    Pack2: x4
    Pack3: x8

  • @kinginfamousz
    @kinginfamousz 7 місяців тому +7

    Notice the zombies attacking him and after he pack a punch 1 they ran off 😂😂😂 5:32

    • @ValAl354
      @ValAl354 7 місяців тому +1

      they didn’t want the smoke lololol

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому +1

      😂😂

  • @DarthPsAyTko
    @DarthPsAyTko 7 місяців тому +6

    Those zombie meats are OP

  • @kieranthomas
    @kieranthomas 6 місяців тому +2

    Best explanation I’ve seen. Thanks for sharing!

  • @TakeitEZE_98
    @TakeitEZE_98 7 місяців тому +4

    I stock up on the tools. You can buy pack easy. Hope they add some kind of scrap system or currency to buy the rarity you want.

  • @gonzorudeboy
    @gonzorudeboy 6 місяців тому

    Crystal clear explanation(no pun intended). Thanks,

  • @joeking-hh9ug
    @joeking-hh9ug 12 днів тому +1

    I love the way you break it down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤓

  • @ArjKm
    @ArjKm 7 місяців тому +3

    Finally someone made a proper video on this. Thank you so much !!

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      You’re very welcome, I’ve been curious about it for a while but finally found a way to show it simply

  • @fabioreyes9160
    @fabioreyes9160 6 місяців тому +1

    As a user with no legendary tool schematic, I'm good even with a pap 2 and any other elemental ammo asides the thunder one, with the lockwood, can even finish some stuff at tier 3 with some work, can't find any worm group tho, seems there are way fewer people doing it nowadays

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  6 місяців тому

      Yeah fewer people run it now. Join our discord to find a squad to run red worm there. A ton of awesome and skilled people there discord.gg/t4wFyjgJ

  • @JaketheRipper057
    @JaketheRipper057 7 місяців тому +1

    LOVE THE STREAM AND THE COMMUNITY ❤❤❤ HAPPY NEW YEAR🎉

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      Thank you, and happy new year to you!

  • @glokiid
    @glokiid 7 місяців тому +1

    Just the video I was looking for very helpful I just was wondering if rarity affects damage to mercs because I heard PaP doesn’t make a difference

  • @toyotrustPR
    @toyotrustPR 6 місяців тому

    Great video thank you.

  • @jasonhernandez2078
    @jasonhernandez2078 7 місяців тому +10

    That was a really complicated way to say, use the highest tool with highest pap for the most damage.

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому +1

      That is the end result, but I actually wanted to figure out and break down the numbers. This video is for nerds like me :D

    • @ZANGETSUxPR
      @ZANGETSUxPR 6 місяців тому +2

      Some ppl like the numbers behind the system

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  6 місяців тому

      @@ZANGETSUxPR yep, nerds like me enjoy the numbers and details

    • @svenw-u3f
      @svenw-u3f 5 місяців тому

      plz can u make the vids i want my 8mins back x(

  • @panth3r26
    @panth3r26 3 місяці тому

    Ya I've never seen flawless or legendary or epic. I get lucky and see pack a punch 2 sometimes. But doesn't matter when my game keeps resetting and i lose everything anyways. Been doing it all week since i hit Act 2.

    • @panth3r26
      @panth3r26 3 місяці тому

      I'm about to give up on this game and sell it.

  • @Real_Epic
    @Real_Epic 7 місяців тому +1

    great video thank you :)

  • @Terrylizard
    @Terrylizard 6 місяців тому

    Hi bud great video! I can't find the link to the chart in the description though? I'd love to get a better look at it

  • @user-te9xx3gh9g
    @user-te9xx3gh9g 7 місяців тому +2

    Dan have you tried using the M16 from MW2. Maybe a broken gun for zombies! Don’t remember my exact build but 60 round mag, 11.5 barrel, laser, xten under barrel, 4hr flash hider. Base head damage is 57 which I believe is higher than any other assault and LMG.

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      I haven’t yet but heard it was good. Message me on discord with the full build and I’d love to credit you! discord.com/channels/626185074873991173/1183893024351195148

    • @lazgkhn
      @lazgkhn 7 місяців тому +2

      M16 is really weak. Lockwood en tyr are the best

    • @user-te9xx3gh9g
      @user-te9xx3gh9g 7 місяців тому

      Dan, my exact build is 11.5 Carbine Shroud, SL Razor Hawk Laser, Bruen Bastion Angle Grip - Sacrificed ADS for recoil control and better Tac Stance, L4R Flash Hider, and a 60 Round Mag. Gun Could be seen as weak until it's pack-a-punched. Becomes full auto and 120 rounds in the mag and 900 rounds in reserve. I'm also assuming that you'd be using it with a gold wrench. You just asked during one of your videos for a gun that others aren't using. I don't need any credit, I just enjoy your youtube videos and the message you're putting out! Keep it up!@@OneAverageDan

  • @shawncampbell3252
    @shawncampbell3252 7 місяців тому +3

    What about buying a gun in level 3 then use the legendary heather tools

    • @georgereston
      @georgereston 7 місяців тому +2

      If it's a gold (legendary) gun, the game won't let you use a legendary aether tool on it. If it's a purple (epic) gun, a legendary tool will upgrade it one level to gold (legendary).

  • @DonnieBizworth
    @DonnieBizworth 5 місяців тому

    So a Rare(2) pack 2 weapon... is equivalent to a legendary unpacked weapon (400%)??

  • @iqraahmed830
    @iqraahmed830 7 місяців тому +2

    how the hell do you nrearly have 1 million points while being 15 mins into the match?

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      Tombstone exploit, full explination here: ua-cam.com/video/6oovCwgEWdU/v-deo.htmlsi=CSHLzlTSaTHxvtDP

  • @HlywaLaw
    @HlywaLaw 3 місяці тому

    Does this mean using all 4 tools will make it stronger than just using legendary?
    Same with pack a punch. If I use pap1, then pap2, then pap3, will that be stronger than just using pap3?

  • @shawnwright240
    @shawnwright240 6 місяців тому

    this is helpful

  • @Proudvader
    @Proudvader 7 місяців тому +2

    could do with ring of fire though

  • @tyronefrazier7150
    @tyronefrazier7150 7 місяців тому

    Hey One Average Dan try the FR Advancer set for damage range and whatever else you want it shreds in Tier 3

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому +1

      i just heard about this one, how is it against mega abominations??

    • @tyronefrazier7150
      @tyronefrazier7150 7 місяців тому

      @@OneAverageDan I’m just now getting comfy with tier 3 I haven’t tried it head on I use turrets to my advantage but last night was my first time solo against several mega’s all I can say ether blade is a god send

  • @ChrisNUFC92
    @ChrisNUFC92 6 місяців тому

    So if you applied pack a punch 3 and legendary tool, do you automatically get 32x damage, or do you have to upgrade one by one to get max damage?

  • @markavelitv4140
    @markavelitv4140 6 місяців тому

    So if i pack a punch my weapon to level 2 right., and i come across a PAP 1 OR 3 does that add more powerto the weapon? (Not talking about the "tools"). Hope it makes sense.. new sub!😊

    • @ZANGETSUxPR
      @ZANGETSUxPR 6 місяців тому

      Yep, higher the pap the better.

    • @timsebring7188
      @timsebring7188 6 місяців тому +1

      If you already ahve a 2, adding a 1 will do nothing, if it even lets you.

  • @Medic75156
    @Medic75156 Місяць тому

    Need link!

  • @agreen778
    @agreen778 7 місяців тому +3

    You hacked your cash bro

  • @rndmpinkiepie64
    @rndmpinkiepie64 7 місяців тому +1

    So, wait, if PaP is a multiplier, does it stack? Like, you PaP with a machine but then add a refined crystal, will it be stronger than if you just used the refined crystal off the bat?

    • @syluxassassin
      @syluxassassin 7 місяців тому

      Crystals just mimic a machine. There's no point wasting the money

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому +2

      The order you put them in does not matter. PaP or Aether tool first or 2nd will still give you the same damage output

  • @leach713
    @leach713 7 місяців тому

    That aim is superb , Cronus 😅😂

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      As a mouse and keyboard player, thank you for the complement :)

  • @Diamond_Enderman
    @Diamond_Enderman 7 місяців тому +1

    Are you in a private zombie server?

    • @PeppinSpaghett.
      @PeppinSpaghett. 7 місяців тому +2

      No, just in a secluded area

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      I wish, Zombies Customs would be incredibly fun to play

  • @JOHNfuknRAMBO
    @JOHNfuknRAMBO 7 місяців тому +1

    How is PAP3 a 8x multiplier..? Is the increase exponential? I have some doubts on this...

    • @syluxassassin
      @syluxassassin 7 місяців тому

      Every PaP level is double damage
      Normal: 1x
      1x->2x->4x->8x

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      Think of it this way, PaP damage by it self is this:
      1- 2x
      2- 4x
      3- 8x
      Aether tools are like this:
      Grey - 1x
      Green - 1.5x
      Blue - 2x
      Purple - 3x
      Gold - 4x
      the math works
      PaP damage x Weapon Rarity = Total damage output

  • @brando402
    @brando402 7 місяців тому +4

    Adding the rarity tools in zombies was a big L imo.

    • @kevinjay240
      @kevinjay240 7 місяців тому

      Why tho it makes the gun stronger

  • @jamiecalcutt4120
    @jamiecalcutt4120 7 місяців тому

    Whats the discord link?

    • @jamiecalcutt4120
      @jamiecalcutt4120 7 місяців тому

      Tried to join on the dupe glitch vid and it wasnt working/link expired

    • @jojoh_maliketh
      @jojoh_maliketh 7 місяців тому

      ​@@jamiecalcutt4120dupping solo is better

    • @robertterrazas1377
      @robertterrazas1377 7 місяців тому +1

      What gun are those akimbo?

    • @nothing-f7w
      @nothing-f7w 7 місяців тому

      @@robertterrazas1377 WSP swarms

    • @jamiecalcutt4120
      @jamiecalcutt4120 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jojoh_maliketh more just to see if anyone could help me get schematics, ive got basic ones but only finished act 1

  • @Pappisnapshot
    @Pappisnapshot 7 місяців тому +2

    Have you been on planet Pluto 😂 we all know this

    • @kjedington
      @kjedington 7 місяців тому +3

      He was on his way to Pluto but he got stuck in Uranus

    • @Pappisnapshot
      @Pappisnapshot 7 місяців тому

      @@kjedington how disappointing was this reply ! 🥱

    • @nothing-f7w
      @nothing-f7w 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Pappisnapshot who cares and who need emojies anyway, the're useless

    • @Pappisnapshot
      @Pappisnapshot 7 місяців тому

      @@nothing-f7wjust like this vlog! 😂

    • @whitewidow9046
      @whitewidow9046 7 місяців тому +2

      It's for people who are new and don't know so this is a video of how they would find out. How did you find out? You looked it up right? Exactly.

  • @117asm
    @117asm 7 місяців тому +1

    I would like to know what the damage modifiers look like when you equip the Deadshot perk.

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      This is a great idea, now I have to figure out how to actually test that...

    • @117asm
      @117asm 7 місяців тому +1

      @OneAverageDan wouldn't it just be a matter of seeing how many shots it takes to down a Tier 2 zombie with a base gun before the perk, then measure the shots from the base gun after the perk is equipped?

    • @OneAverageDan
      @OneAverageDan  7 місяців тому

      @@117asm yeah this is a solid idea, if I used a good sniper, sit on the island with a grey gun and shoot a tier 2 or 3 zombie until they die. Then equip dedshot and try the same type of zombie again