Need for Speed: Carbon - Retrospective

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  • Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
  • An overview of the story and gameplay elements of Need for Speed: Carbon, the game that made everyone mad by being not Need for Speed: Most Wanted (except it kind of is).
    I'm Mitchell Diedrich, and I like to talk about video games, and, sometimes, other stuff.
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    Chapters
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    00:00 - Introduction
    00:34 - Prologue
    06:36 - Welcome to Palmont City
    10:36 - Kenji's Bushido
    20:32 - Angie's 21st Street
    27:07 - Wolf's TFK
    29:03 - Darius' Stacked Deck
    35:22 - Rumination
    Attributions
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  • @mitchelldiedrich
    @mitchelldiedrich  10 місяців тому +57

    On acquiring the game: towards the end of the video, I mentioned that I received a nastygram from my ISP. After this video released, I discovered a different way to obtain the game that doesn't run that risk. I won't share that information here because I very much like my channel and don't want to jeopardize it, but my Discord server may be of interest to you: discord.gg/2ndtX7JY

    • @BrandonS2K43
      @BrandonS2K43 10 місяців тому +4

      VPN is always the option, my ISP spectrum did the same

    • @BALDOOOOO
      @BALDOOOOO 9 місяців тому

      Thanks

    • @KaoticReach1999
      @KaoticReach1999 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BrandonS2K43Even with a VPN they still sent one

    • @ashhhh2
      @ashhhh2 3 місяці тому +2

      yeah it's called an emulator and it works really well if you're gonna fly a jolly roger might as well use an emulator

    • @chochoobaca55
      @chochoobaca55 2 місяці тому

      Hey uhhhhh is anyone able to help out here? I joined the discord but haven’t seen anything and I have a huge hard on to play the classic games on the PC ports

  • @Leequidude
    @Leequidude Рік тому +730

    My dad played this game a lot but there was one moment that we will never forget. It never happened again. During the final canyon duel with Darius, Darius fell off the cliff. We couldn't replicate it again no matter how hard we push him lol. That was like a one in a million moment for us.

    • @AlexanderTrombetta3010
      @AlexanderTrombetta3010 Рік тому +10

      😯😮👍

    • @SHOTIMELV
      @SHOTIMELV Рік тому +39

      it happened to me but I also fell off the cliff, so I have to replay it again

    • @Fooooobar
      @Fooooobar 11 місяців тому +9

      Happened to me too, and after that it never happened again.

    • @jommyinnit5702
      @jommyinnit5702 10 місяців тому +10

      Meanwhile I made it mandatory to pass Angie, if I didn't I'll restart until I did. She just pissed me off the most out of them all lol

    • @aaronkristofer18
      @aaronkristofer18 10 місяців тому +16

      I hear this a lot that the bosses will never drive off the cliffs or anything, and honestly it must be a 7th-gen thing, because in the PS2 version they kamikaze themselves quite often.

  • @kushkeniry3798
    @kushkeniry3798 Рік тому +3477

    The live action cutscenes are 10 times better then the horrible ones we get now

    • @ryanmurray4899
      @ryanmurray4899 Рік тому +263

      Yes and no, I feel like the ones in the early 2000’s were on point but others like need for speed 2015 felt really cringe

    • @nicolasoliveira4903
      @nicolasoliveira4903 Рік тому +25

      I like the ones un most wanted.

    • @cxssetteman182
      @cxssetteman182 Рік тому +116

      @@ryanmurray4899 Nah man, Most Wanted cutscenes were pretty crap. They made my eyes hurt, and ears bleed. Even Jose Maran's midriff couldn't save the experience for me.
      Not to mention, the writing is extremely childish.

    • @BiIlDipperIy
      @BiIlDipperIy Рік тому +175

      @@cxssetteman182 I mean although nfsmw was sorta cringy... It wasn't as bad as it is now. Everything is selfie this, hashtag that. "were cool and hip, bro". For a 16 year old game, Carbon's cutscenes are really pretty good.
      I like nfs unbound too. I just skip all the cutscenes, sadly. I can't handle the cringe.

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE Рік тому +14

      @@BiIlDipperIy Nah, not sorta. It *is* cringy. I've seen better writing from wrestling.

  • @bodivanbodivan3668
    @bodivanbodivan3668 6 місяців тому +132

    Whats funny is the fact that instead of sending a text message to tell you how much they hate you, they rally the entire crew, wait in an alley until you drive by, then pull up on you, let down their windows, and speak for 12 seconds just to then pull off in unison. Its utterly amazing.

    • @TheCobCAP
      @TheCobCAP Місяць тому +12

      good days when everyone was on flip phones and texts cost money

  • @AndrewSmith-ub6xs
    @AndrewSmith-ub6xs Рік тому +161

    one important cultural factor to remember when discussing NFS:MW and Carbon respectively, and I swear no one ever mentions it; NFS:MW ('05) was still riding high off the 'street racing' persona success of 2 Fast 2 Furious ('03), and Carbon (October '06) was running hot off the success of The Fast And The Furious: Tokyo Drift (June '06). The fact that you could kind-of 'replay' those moments from Tokyo Drift was a peak moment in my childhood.

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 10 місяців тому +7

      and the UG2 with with its cheesy ricing.

    • @0047sssss
      @0047sssss 4 місяці тому +10

      @@rizkyadiyanto7922 UG1 & UG2 were riding on the fad from first F&F

    • @bangerrr569
      @bangerrr569 4 місяці тому +5

      NFS carbon is one of my favorite games of all time I was 10 when it came out, and Tokyo drift is one of my favorite movies of all time too, don’t think it’s a coincidence.

  • @dylanthomas9907
    @dylanthomas9907 Рік тому +1187

    Bodykit sculpting. That was a whole new level of amazing

    • @marcusipcw
      @marcusipcw Рік тому +17

      I always hope it come back

    • @Jetanium
      @Jetanium Рік тому +43

      @@marcusipcw they call it BBL these days.

    • @sparda9060
      @sparda9060 Рік тому

      @Gibbon brazilian butt lift lol women get those to make their ass bigger.

    • @Jetanium
      @Jetanium Рік тому +13

      @Gibbon I have the same google you do.

    • @_fudgepop01
      @_fudgepop01 Рік тому +23

      @SandboxCrasher big beautiful Lamborghini :)

  • @Bruno-fw6nw
    @Bruno-fw6nw Рік тому +775

    At the prologue, when the guy with the red coat asked cross what's the player's bounty, cross should've said "he is the most wanted"

    • @TheBoostedDoge
      @TheBoostedDoge Рік тому +157

      You mean crock?

    • @rydoggo
      @rydoggo Рік тому +189

      @@TheBoostedDoge it's Cross. And this guy's from outta town.

    • @nicolasoliveira4903
      @nicolasoliveira4903 Рік тому +13

      @@rydoggo its MA'AN !

    • @djpemb
      @djpemb Рік тому +9

      @@rydoggo been a long time kid...

    • @Chromeno
      @Chromeno Рік тому +20

      I loved it when Cross said "this is a nice Carbon car!"

  • @weakestlink20
    @weakestlink20 Рік тому +221

    What I really like about Palmont City's style is how each of the districts are designed with your car class in mind at the start. Downtown is tight and technical as fuck, things that tuners don't have much trouble with. Kempton on the other hand is chock full of wide roads and has lots of soft turns, making life easier for muscle cars and giving them the ability and flex their might. Fortuna and Silverton are rather varied in their layouts, Fortuna moreso because Exotics aren't the most distinct in terms of playstyle, and Silverton is where it all comes together.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +78

      Where were you when I was writing this script, huh?

    • @weakestlink20
      @weakestlink20 Рік тому +54

      @@mitchelldiedrich Out in Rockport, most likely.

    • @irishurbadlmao
      @irishurbadlmao Рік тому +3

      Except Tuners early game weren't good at tight and technical, They lacked the acceleration to achieve decent average speeds there. And Downtown had very few technical sections. Kempton also had many sharp corners itself, and a fair share of narrow roads. It's really not that varied when you think about it

    • @weakestlink20
      @weakestlink20 Рік тому

      @@irishurbadlmao That feeling exists if you use the RX-8, which is one of the worst handling tuners. Trying using the MazdaSpeed3, a different tier 1 tuner that plays more like one. Or the Nissan 240SX if that can be made available for you,

    • @irishurbadlmao
      @irishurbadlmao Рік тому

      @@weakestlink20 The 240SX is broken and competes with tier 3 cars so it's not comparable. The MPS3 is better but it's still not a drastic improvement and so it doesn't really speak for the tuner's viability at all. Especially since it's illogical to buy, since it's initially too expensive and the money you earn needs to go towards upgrades. By the time you can comfortably afford it, tier 2 is available and or downtown is already done

  • @n00bGT-R
    @n00bGT-R 8 місяців тому +20

    a bunch of corrections:
    -muscle cars arent shit in this game in fact they are the exact opposite, they are kinda useless in tier 1 but in later tiers they have far superior acceleration than the rest of the cars in the game (corvette and viper are known to be the most op cars of the game because of their insane acceleration, you can beat darius canyon duel easily by overtaking him in the first turn with those two)
    -the minimap is actually supposed to show the race course, i personally never had that issue so its probably a problem with your copy
    -the game is called Carbon because of the Carbon Canyon which is where you do all the boss races

  • @phoroclock
    @phoroclock Рік тому +1040

    Man if carbon didn’t have such a short story and half it’s content cut it would have been way bigger than it is today. Still such a great game and mods keep it alive as ever. Great video

    • @poompopgaming6518
      @poompopgaming6518 Рік тому +71

      I think ppl would say it's better than mw if that happen

    • @4wheeledlife
      @4wheeledlife Рік тому +6

      Hi where can I buy this game for windows 10 without risk of virus?

    • @luisortega8085
      @luisortega8085 Рік тому +72

      yeah, a lot was cut. like, the cover of the disk is a cut race where you would've raced the cop that let you get away in the Fateful Night.
      also, the cut area in the "learn how crew members work" (called San Juan) and so on

    • @CometWarriorYT
      @CometWarriorYT Рік тому +10

      @@poompopgaming6518 It definitely is just as good, so yeah, probably

    • @imprelude
      @imprelude Рік тому +5

      Man if Angie would still drive after the electric shock 😂

  • @SleepDaemon
    @SleepDaemon Рік тому +125

    4:39 the "Activate Windows" watermark that you see through out the entire game is the best thing a game could have.

  • @thaddeus3648
    @thaddeus3648 Рік тому +46

    If I remember correctly, this game was originally a lot more ambitious, wanting to do some revolutionary things for it's time, but EA gave them a harsh deadline and they faced a few other setbacks as well.
    EDIT: This game is also my introduction into the racing genre and started my love for the spinning Doritos and now drive a RX-8 😄

    • @mr_coffee9917
      @mr_coffee9917 5 місяців тому +1

      Always so nice to hear from people

    • @s1d3k1ckRO
      @s1d3k1ckRO 24 дні тому +1

      I have a (regular) Mazda 3 because of this game ❤

  • @tboy355
    @tboy355 Рік тому +52

    I'd like to add that certain muscle cars in this game are OP. With Angie's car alone, you can clear most of the game even the race events in Silverton and also making Kenjis and Wolf's boss races seem like a joke if you've chosen a muscle car at the beginning

    • @j2jwhatsapp
      @j2jwhatsapp 11 місяців тому +12

      I agree, I took a corvette and simply overtook Darius right at the start of the canyon race, 12 y/o me was mighty impressed.

    • @WearingGoldluck
      @WearingGoldluck 11 місяців тому +9

      The Corvette and the Viper were absolutely bonkers in T3, they just dominate in all the straight aways and both can win Canyon Races in the first 20-25 seconds.

    • @BigGomer
      @BigGomer 10 місяців тому

      @@WearingGoldluck that would probobly why i don't remember that race boing to hard as a kid in 2006 i loved this game back in the day I wish I still had my copy but I sadly lost it over the years

    • @user-md2gv4zo7k
      @user-md2gv4zo7k 3 місяці тому +1

      And what they're doing when u use the manual, omg

    • @user-gh1vc9kb4e
      @user-gh1vc9kb4e 2 місяці тому

      Every career mode race in the game except for one of the Silverton speedtraps can be won with the 1992 Nissan 240sx. This car can be obtained in the collector's edition by completing one of the challenge task series.

  • @RiC3R69
    @RiC3R69 Рік тому +349

    They were making these Games with love unlike these days

    • @simp2234
      @simp2234 Рік тому

      Unbound is shit

    • @ManLikeEddy
      @ManLikeEddy Рік тому +13

      No they werent they made em just the same as they're making them now
      Same shit just different purpose

    • @kylebeach2316
      @kylebeach2316 Рік тому +28

      @@ManLikeEddy minus microtransactions 😂😂😂

    • @ManLikeEddy
      @ManLikeEddy Рік тому +4

      @@kylebeach2316 good point

    • @Hidden_lvl
      @Hidden_lvl Рік тому +12

      Unbound wasn't made with love because you say so.

  • @MusicByOwlsome
    @MusicByOwlsome Рік тому +543

    HOW can you say nobody wants live action cutscenes? I cant believe thats all you had to say about this.....
    it looks SO much better. I always wondered why they stopped doing that. Yes, I know they did it in 2015, but they didnt even try to make it look like the rest of the game...
    The genius thing about MW and carbon was that they filmed it and then made it look like the game. It was such a smart way to do it.

    • @yol_n
      @yol_n Рік тому +5

      Can you show examples of what you even want? You want live action cutscenes that look like a game?
      Also NFS2015 is technically what you want because the game looks so close to real life the actors just perfectly blend in.

    • @MusicByOwlsome
      @MusicByOwlsome Рік тому +28

      @@yol_n Did you even read my comment? The answers to your questions are all there, but Ill tell you again...
      -what I want is what they did in MW and Carbon.
      -What they did in 2015 did not look enough like a game.

    • @hi_its_jerry
      @hi_its_jerry Рік тому +8

      what the other guy said about 2015 is true. there was no need to make it look like a game because the technology available didn't require that kind of workaround. besides, they were specifically pushing for visual fidelity and hyperrealism

    • @MusicByOwlsome
      @MusicByOwlsome Рік тому +5

      @@hi_its_jerry its not that they NEED to do it that way. It just looks better. I never said anything about needs.

    • @hi_its_jerry
      @hi_its_jerry Рік тому

      ​@@MusicByOwlsome no, dont need to do it that way, not anymore at least. but during the PS2 era, blbx had to do it for visual cohesion but by 2015, ghost realized that they didnt have to do what blbx needed to do in order to achieve that same visual cohesion.
      also, whether it looked better or not is subjective

  • @matthewwarner3618
    @matthewwarner3618 Рік тому +8

    Darius pulled the Disney villain plot twist move💀

  • @ix-badsport-xix7433
    @ix-badsport-xix7433 9 місяців тому +25

    For the mini-map not displaying the race line, I think that’s solely a PC problem because on PS2 and PS3 it’s always highlighted in yellow.

    • @aftdawn
      @aftdawn 6 місяців тому +8

      It shows up for me, so its something to do with his copy

    • @layerp
      @layerp 5 місяців тому +4

      It's the extraoptions mod

  • @premierbudouci5067
    @premierbudouci5067 Рік тому +460

    Live action combined with greenscreen in this game is actually perfect, acting is good enough, the atmosphere is there and the characters are mostly memorable, Neville ftw

  • @TheSektorz
    @TheSektorz Рік тому +255

    Damn, when the blur kicks in, this game holds up like a champ visually!
    I loved it as a kid, my first memory is crashing and some cop saying "Dispatch, this guy can't drive." and me laughing my ass off at both the hilarious line and the fact that the AI was reactive to your driving. Awesome game stylistically, with fitting music. The menu music alone is GOATed AF.

    • @christcarscountry6870
      @christcarscountry6870 Рік тому +13

      I remember an old video of a guy ramming one of the Corvette cops and hearing the line "Suspect just hit my PC!" followed by an image of a man screaming as his computer is destroyed.

  • @Crogatho
    @Crogatho 8 місяців тому +5

    Everything is a DB-9, didn't you know? The toyota across the street is actually a DB-9 in disguise.

  • @juanmanuelgarcia4605
    @juanmanuelgarcia4605 11 місяців тому +13

    It's funny how he brushed off how useful Samson race bonus is.
    If you don't know he gives 10% bonus to the cash reward also if you add Neville as the second partner you get an extra 200$.

  • @xristaka8199
    @xristaka8199 Рік тому +503

    One of the greatest racing games to ever exist.

    • @user-fw4kz3bb4g
      @user-fw4kz3bb4g Рік тому +23

      One of the racing games to ever exist.

    • @btwiamgay
      @btwiamgay Рік тому +9

      One of the racing to ever exist

    • @shalindelta7
      @shalindelta7 Рік тому +12

      Exist ever to games racing greatest the of one

    • @snakecake1000
      @snakecake1000 Рік тому +7

      Games exist to ever racing the one of greatest

    • @borondo6102
      @borondo6102 Рік тому +5

      @@snakecake1000 Racing games to exist one of the greatest ever

  • @SuperLeosid
    @SuperLeosid Рік тому +175

    One thing I would like to add is the speed scaling. Corvettes shred apart canyon duels and Vipers are roleplaying as an intercontinental ballistic missile. Just love it.

    • @nanogalactic6016
      @nanogalactic6016 Рік тому +55

      And just like ballistic missiles, the Viper crashes into absolutely everything because it can't steer xD

    • @koR0ziwe
      @koR0ziwe Рік тому +17

      I want to reply just to let you know that abt the 4th or 5th playthrough of carbon, when i decided to finish the game with a Corvette, I won by overtaking Darius in the canyon, all within 25 seconds

    • @SuperLeosid
      @SuperLeosid Рік тому +19

      @@koR0ziwe Yep, super-muscles like Viper and Vette are very OP and can tear through anything in canyon races.

    • @ProfDrMau
      @ProfDrMau Рік тому +17

      @@SuperLeosid if he thought the lambo is shit, he should try he vette on extra stiky tires. impossible to drive sice it understeers like hell. Driving it like a drifter is OP AF

    • @AlineaEuros
      @AlineaEuros Рік тому +24

      I remember in the tier 3 classes, the evo, viper and vette were the kings in online racing
      With the lancer you find yourself accelerating in corners rather than slowing down due to its black magic handling.

  • @davidhenderson4754
    @davidhenderson4754 Рік тому +13

    Carbon was one of my favorites because it was the closest we will get to late 90s to early 2000s street racing in Japan aesthetics or ideals.

    • @stevedimitrov
      @stevedimitrov 9 днів тому

      If that’s what you’re looking for then you NEED to play midnight club 3 dub remix. I just started playing it after carbon, and even tho the graphics are shit, it’s Tokyo map has pretty iconic locales. The map has Tokyo tower, scramble crossing, downtown shinjuku, Tokyo station, and some docks, just to name a few. Its car selection and customization is awesome too.

  • @TheGingerGandalf
    @TheGingerGandalf 9 місяців тому +7

    The activate windows in the corner goes HARD

  • @u9477
    @u9477 Рік тому +96

    Sal is a G. He would always finish in front of me in first place and win the race 😭

    • @egiese3
      @egiese3 Рік тому +26

      Same! I think Sal won 95% of my races for me.

    • @LexeLite
      @LexeLite Рік тому +26

      Lmao, racing with Sal is almost a guaranteed win.

    • @firehawk6778
      @firehawk6778 Рік тому +8

      Yeah, i used to turn off his power just so I can win the race lol

    • @retseh
      @retseh Рік тому

      i swear i was looking for this comment. Sal was the fuckin goat.

    • @Miguel23887
      @Miguel23887 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, Sal likes finishing in front of me too.

  • @josephlim8061
    @josephlim8061 Рік тому +150

    I got this game on my 14th birthday. I'm 30 now. Time flies! I still remember using Kenji's car to beat Wolf, Angie, and Darius on the PS2.

    • @flazzy6931
      @flazzy6931 Рік тому

      I always beat wolf then Angie then Kenji, not sure why but that's what I always done

    • @JustinLT212
      @JustinLT212 Рік тому +2

      Woah 30 when I was 16 yrs old I thought that was like the end of life lol I’m 23 now and sometimes still get scared by how fast life goes but I calm myself down by realising 30 is not even that old… huge tangent but these games defo make me feel old.

    • @aleksaa24
      @aleksaa24 4 дні тому

      I used to play this and under ground 2 when I was around 4 and ask my dad to beat tough races for me hahaha... Im 22 now but thats still a core memory

  • @siddharthnautiyal5188
    @siddharthnautiyal5188 11 місяців тому +8

    I'm sorry, but the muscle cars in this game are extremely powerful and you can absolutely DOMINATE the entire game with them, if you can control them properly.

    • @momoiroyui
      @momoiroyui 10 місяців тому +1

      The creator of this video having a massive skill issue detected

    • @yasiem6245
      @yasiem6245 14 днів тому +1

      Exactly. Muscle cars are useful if you know how to handle them. The creator doesn't know that and is just whiny about it.

  • @GameRocker
    @GameRocker 9 місяців тому +6

    All the game problems were due to EA and not the designers. They never had enough time to fix everything. It's crazy how much they were able to do with the little time they had. The game was started before MW was released so I assume they added cop chase later because higher-ups wanted to have cops in the game.

  • @csbr75
    @csbr75 Рік тому +199

    38:06
    The game does actually highlight the racing line in the minimap with a yellow color. However, it is tied to the original UI aspect ratio (4:3). When you installed the Extra Options mod to solve issues, one of the things it does is allow you to run the game in 16:9 aspect ratio, which ends up breaking the yellow racing line UI element. Since Carbon's coding is somewhat of a mess, the mod devs were not able to fix it as of December 2022

    • @Tomahawk0510
      @Tomahawk0510 Рік тому +18

      There is a fix through the HDWidescreen mod for the pc version, which brings back the yellow racing route

    • @TomokoxKuroki
      @TomokoxKuroki Рік тому +7

      weird, ive never had a problem with the route highlight not showing up while using the widescreen fix mod

    • @DemonGodDemigra
      @DemonGodDemigra Рік тому +1

      This is one of the mistakes this dude made in his videos, one other mistake was calling this game better than MW. 💀

    • @csbr75
      @csbr75 Рік тому +8

      @@DemonGodDemigra I'm not entirely sure how can someone's opinion be wrong because... Well, it is an opinion

    • @DemonGodDemigra
      @DemonGodDemigra Рік тому +1

      @@csbr75 Nah, i get the impression he's doing it on purpose just to create fuzz to get people (like me) to comment...

  • @Tyrian3k
    @Tyrian3k Рік тому +346

    Never knew that bosses in canyon duels can actually fall off the cliff at all. It never happened to me, ever.

    • @SinisterShift
      @SinisterShift Рік тому +82

      I spent so much of my races trying to throw em off lmao

    • @emaheiwa8174
      @emaheiwa8174 Рік тому +31

      You can push them but it takes practice

    • @LeoMkII
      @LeoMkII Рік тому +1

      @@SinisterShift this lmao

    • @Carlos.Rivera
      @Carlos.Rivera Рік тому

      You could throw them

    • @MarioPanait27
      @MarioPanait27 Рік тому +3

      Meanwhile I never knew you could win by just racng down the canyon, I always passed the boss back in the day

  • @veijonurminen5396
    @veijonurminen5396 Рік тому +10

    I played this as a 10 year old Finnish kid and had fun times guessing what the characters were talking about

  • @CVlad92
    @CVlad92 Місяць тому +1

    So many most wanted and carbon retrospectives and so many channels grew from them. This says how loved these games are. Love to see it

  • @Nooboroshi
    @Nooboroshi Рік тому +324

    Apparently the Supra at the beginning of Carbon was a placeholder for the M3GTR from Most Wanted but the devs couldn't get the license in time so the placeholder Supra stayed. Basically you've always had that M3GTR. You escaped Palmont in it and reached Rockport. Then after leaving Rockport, you return to Palmont again and that is where Carbon starts.

    • @michaellorah9051
      @michaellorah9051 Рік тому +40

      And the switch up could be chalked up to the player just switching cars after leaving Palmont between the flashback and the start to Most Wanted.

    • @MG99GM
      @MG99GM Рік тому +41

      How are u driving it in the beginning when they didnt get the license??

    • @kamonek3825
      @kamonek3825 Рік тому

      Thats good info right there

    • @Nooboroshi
      @Nooboroshi Рік тому +11

      @@MG99GM They made the cutscenes before the game.

    • @FilipDautovic
      @FilipDautovic Рік тому +21

      Possibly, I think Underground and U2 happened between that cutscene and MW, as Rog says something like "Look what the Underground spit out, let's see how you do in the daytime."

  • @123person31
    @123person31 Рік тому +75

    Carbon and NFSU2 are top of the NFS pyramid in my opinion. They just feel the best to play.

    • @bigrod359
      @bigrod359 Рік тому +8

      My same thoughts miss the old days

    • @b.w.9392
      @b.w.9392 Рік тому +1

      Agreed, most wanted is 3rd I think. The rest are kind of equal to me, I enjoyed older ones like hot pursuit 2, but also the reboot hot pursuit and the newer games like nfs 2015 and payback

    • @aidanbourke8168
      @aidanbourke8168 Рік тому

      Ashkan?

    • @B-A-L
      @B-A-L Рік тому +3

      NFSU2 and Most Wanted for me. Carbon and Undercover were just carbon copies (did you see what I did there?)

  • @DUBracer01
    @DUBracer01 Рік тому +7

    Definitely need a NFSU2 retrospective, these videos have been anything other than ambient noise for me. Keep it up man!

  • @jdbb3gotskills
    @jdbb3gotskills Рік тому +5

    I hope you keep making retrospectives of all the racing games of the 2000s
    The explanation inception is hilarious.

  • @MsBrotherhoodclan
    @MsBrotherhoodclan Рік тому +1252

    i just like hearing you complain

  • @hungtheheroluu
    @hungtheheroluu Рік тому +72

    Carbon is my childhood. I used to remember struggling to win races and I'd always get busted, not knowing I could actually escape and hide from the cops. I just immediately ragequit once my car flys off the cliff in the canyon duel. That was little ol' me when I played the challenge series unaware of a career mode until I rediscovered the game as a junior in high school. What good times I wish I could relive. I'm not sure how I could download this game, let alone the Collector's Edition and other classic NFS games like the Underground series and Most Wanted.

    • @Subreon
      @Subreon Рік тому +6

      Download the pc versions of the games or the emulator of your choice with their respective versions, or even buy used copies, though that's not recommended because they're very pricy and the discs are hella old and worn out. It's very easy to download them and even set up emulators. You can be playing the game in 20 minutes from reading this. I wish I could give links to speed up the process and make it easier for you, but the sketchy legal gray area and such ya know

    • @afr1canch13f5
      @afr1canch13f5 Рік тому +2

      @@Subreon yeah i feel you, i "obtained" the collector's edition on my pc after only playing it on ps2 back in the day and i was pretty surprised with the added cutscenes of the characters while racing, as well as the other exclusive cars. Emulation might limit your options unless you're going ps3 version i guess.

  • @itscharlieschannel
    @itscharlieschannel 4 місяці тому +2

    "sit down" is the best line in a game.

  • @cusnirstefan7256
    @cusnirstefan7256 11 місяців тому +6

    38:07 If you look closely at 38:16 in the left side on the mini map, near the flame icon from the heat meter you can see the race route is marked with yellow. What you see its a bug that makes the route yellow highlighter move at the same time with you, that's why you can partially see it.

  • @sondreelias
    @sondreelias Рік тому +117

    I like the live action cutscenes, it gives it a fun feeling of a older game

    • @dtxspeaks268
      @dtxspeaks268 Рік тому +12

      Not to mention, Carbon's were pretty good for a racing game

  • @sledgehamster7610
    @sledgehamster7610 Рік тому +16

    My biggest problem with Carbon was the tire screeching. Just constantly. Thats all you could hear for like 99% of your races.

    • @PAX-East
      @PAX-East 11 місяців тому +1

      Amen to that, tire screech because a bug hit the windshield.

  • @AdrianDeSilvaOriginal
    @AdrianDeSilvaOriginal Рік тому +1

    Dude first time watching your video and not a single dull moment! Great editing, story telling and review!

  • @88Spint
    @88Spint Рік тому +4

    I gotta say teh cutscenes did set the mood just right for you to feel like you are part of a movie, with racing bits. A somewhat corny teen movie but one with racing so it's actually kinda awesome :D

  • @thespy-dresser3580
    @thespy-dresser3580 Рік тому +42

    One detail that impressed me in this game is that the brake discs actually rotate with the wheel, a detail that MW 05 didn't have, it's very hard to see without a debug camera or a freecamera

  • @brokenportals
    @brokenportals Рік тому +69

    This was the last good NFS game for a really long while. While it's basically Most Wanted but switched to night time, copy-and paste police pretty much. It still had good customization, autosculpting was a cool concept that had potential. Drift came back, the canyon races were fun. The game just wasn't long enough though. You can beat it in a day easily if you've got time. Still love Carbon though, criminally underrated. The PSP version is really good too, definitely worth checking out.

  • @ZoeyEldritch
    @ZoeyEldritch 2 місяці тому +2

    "Does everything a little better" He said after pointing out all the things it did worst, sometimes far worst such as the Mini Map lol

  • @hueitor1748
    @hueitor1748 Рік тому +2

    I've just watched every of your NFS reviews, now you are legally obligated to review every NFS

  • @tashrif46
    @tashrif46 Рік тому +63

    39:00 The one thing that I wished Carbon took advantage of was the use of the crew mode. We can use it in the race but I wish we could use the crew to help out during the pursuits. Like each crew member can give you more unique ways of evading the cops. Blockers will take part in the pursuit, scouters would find routes to escape, etc. It would have made such a unique experience compared to MW. Or even do a Crew v Crew race at the end with the player, Nikki and two other crew members taking on Darius' crew for supremacy.
    Ultimately the crew were quite useless other than the normal races. But it had so much potential.

  • @retaliaterguitar2
    @retaliaterguitar2 Рік тому +50

    This game was my childhood. I beat this game countless times with the 69 Charger. It became my main car in every racing game that followed.

  • @momoiroyui
    @momoiroyui 10 місяців тому +3

    OP: Muscle cars bad
    NFSC players: Skill issue

  • @xwraden
    @xwraden 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for leaving the whole cutscene! I was invested WOW

  • @jnieto490
    @jnieto490 Рік тому +22

    This game was the first time we ever laid eyes on an R8 (le mans quattro in the game) and it's been my dream car ever since

  • @mofkergt
    @mofkergt Рік тому +11

    bringing back the bmw and then taking it away again really was a kick in the balls

  • @omarzidan4055
    @omarzidan4055 Рік тому +5

    Man i love this game. I liked Cutscenes. The dark theme was nice. The crews idea was a nice addition and makes u want to unlock all the places to see the reactions of the other leaders . Nice customisation. Honesty, the only bad part for me is that it was just short, and I wanted to enjoy it more

  • @robinsan4401
    @robinsan4401 Рік тому +1

    I think one part you missed is, that you always wonder whats behind thoose wood logs and then at the very end you find out with a even Higher heat Level than you could Imagine.
    So good

  • @purpl3t3ntacl3
    @purpl3t3ntacl3 Рік тому +56

    my childhood is Test-Drive, Outrun and Need for Speed 1-3. and now 30 years later i can still play NFS with my 6 year old son. great memories

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +4

      Test Drive Off-Road 3 was my first racing game, I believe. The nostalgia hits hard when I think about it.

  • @tashrif46
    @tashrif46 Рік тому +29

    Uphill task for Carbon. Came hot off the heels one of the most vaunted titles in the series in Most Wanted 2005. But I loved Carbon growing up. It had the night racing, neon lights, customization, each tier class had its own perks and disadvantages. I spent more time playing Carbon than MW or Underground 2. And it had large variety of cars like the Skyline R34 which was shockingly left out in MW. Hope Kryzee can make a V2 of the Redux mod

  • @BaseWonky
    @BaseWonky Рік тому +1

    This game was one of the first video games I can actually remember being able to understand and let me tell you did it set my expectations way to high for any other game I ever played after

  • @jacobrawlinson9032
    @jacobrawlinson9032 Рік тому +3

    This game was soo influential on my life. Like my dream car 67 Camaro SS all because of this game. The first car I bought is an 05 rx8. And the only other car I had almost bought was the Alfa berra. Did it subconsciously but I fell in love with these cars from this game. Carbon will forever holds a special place in my heart.

  • @DetectiveJones
    @DetectiveJones Рік тому +69

    I remember always kinda exploiting Speedtrap races by using Drafter since they rubber band hard to get ahead of you so if you race like normal and are in first but are losing in points just use the ability before getting to the speedtrap and your follower will have busted speeds to catch up therefore passing the marker with insane speed...Also using cars with high acceleration meant easy canyon races since you could just pass the opponent before the first turn and just stay ahead of them for a few seconds for an auto win

  • @iulianiftime6959
    @iulianiftime6959 Рік тому +35

    A cool thing I noticed was in the boss cutscenes they are followed by the guys who later spoke to us , here at 22:41 you can see samson looking at us before leaving.

  • @RanorPhlebiac
    @RanorPhlebiac Рік тому

    Watched your Most Wanted Video liked it very much. The Carbon video is even better. You got yourself a new subscriber!

  • @hanzocs514
    @hanzocs514 Рік тому

    This the first time watching 40min video without a break , srsly good video ❤

  • @icehawk147
    @icehawk147 Рік тому +53

    Back into those PS2 days i remember the graphics being so mind blowing, now looking at Unbound it makes you appreciate how far we've come

    • @cclizarkb
      @cclizarkb Рік тому +14

      Yea except Carbon and Most Wanted are way better games overall even with technical limitations.

    • @erueka6
      @erueka6 Рік тому +1

      Yes its flowing with unbound shit such a fitting name.

    • @nibba5692
      @nibba5692 2 місяці тому

      Unbound looks like shit

  • @aphantomthief1416
    @aphantomthief1416 Рік тому +45

    One crucial thing to add: the canyon duels and drifts are a reference to the old Inital D and the legend of the Japanese Drift King who made a name for himself after racing down the Togue lane in the vicinity of Tokyo

  • @kamior23
    @kamior23 Рік тому +4

    I don’t even know how many times I beat this game back when I got it from my dad. It was my first game and only at that time. So I was replaying it like crazy I even got my friend into it. We were meeting at my place and playing it together race by race. When we reached end we were starting all over again. I absolutely loved this game and I still do, so many great memories. I even resolved it during my it classes 3 years ago and I still had a blast playing it. Installing some mods these days makes it even better. The best nfs imo

  • @C-A-M-456
    @C-A-M-456 Рік тому

    love the content man brings back nostalgia

  • @evanlaux3623
    @evanlaux3623 Рік тому +19

    Thanks for making this and the Most Wanted video man. I’m 22 now and some of my fondest gaming memories were doing cop chases in these two games after elementary school with my childhood buddies. Great memories

  • @RedBirdTCG
    @RedBirdTCG Рік тому +8

    I remember my dad upgrading our shitty old computer with a graphics card and another stick of ram, so I could play this game, beat the whole thing with the starter Camaro, God I loved this game.

    • @joeydiedrich
      @joeydiedrich Рік тому +1

      OH MY GOD YOU JUST UNLOCKED A MEMORY FOR ME. My dad did the same thing for me! Except he had to do it for the game spore.
      speaking of spore... maybe watch out for a video about that game.
      Source: Just got a good feeling.

  • @psyhodelik
    @psyhodelik 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the vidéo, i was forgot that the pitch is really cool in this game ^^

  • @ZxrelentlessxZ
    @ZxrelentlessxZ 6 місяців тому +1

    This is the first ever game I’ve played, special place in my heart

  • @Alejandro_BoniIIa
    @Alejandro_BoniIIa Рік тому +11

    This was the first and most memorable car game I’ve ever played as a child. I have so many fond memories playing the wii on the few occasions my parents would let me play. I’m days away from my 21st birthday and can still say with certainty that this game has fueled my love of cars which has only grown.

  • @1dudecrush
    @1dudecrush Рік тому +11

    I first played this game at a friend’s house at a sleepover. My friend and I stayed up alllll night while our host friend slept. I got ridiculously good at this game over those hours, and he stayed up checking MySpace over and over because Panic! At The Disco was about to drop what became possibly their most iconic album in the wee hours of the morning. I’m old. But that memory is a good one. Life was good, I had very little to worry about. Energy drinks and video games until the sun comes up, with a few breaks every now and then, because the PS3 would overheat repeatedly 😂

  • @the3dotsguy...610
    @the3dotsguy...610 Рік тому +19

    Bro... Activate ur windows

  • @Yokotukanoshi
    @Yokotukanoshi Рік тому

    Love the video format, First time viewer! Thanks man!!

  • @tashrif46
    @tashrif46 Рік тому +16

    16:13 and 34:30 best and most intense race mode in the game without a doubt. I wouldn't be surprised if that was taken directly from Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift, coincidentally releasing the same year as Carbon in 2006. I would not be surprised at all that EA probably went to Justin Lin, the director of Tokyo Drift, and took pointers from the Sean and DK race at the end of Tokyo Drift.

    • @ptibab73
      @ptibab73 Рік тому +5

      Could be, I always thought that the evo on the game box is looking like the evo in Tokyo Drift

  • @CS_Uravity_PRO
    @CS_Uravity_PRO Рік тому +23

    You should try the Battle Royale mod. It expands a lot on the territories mechanic and adds a bunch more cars and events like City Streets Drifting.

  • @kingtyranius2207
    @kingtyranius2207 2 місяці тому

    I like how the soundtrack and music in the game changes depending on what type of car you racing in

  • @Dagreatestwaffle
    @Dagreatestwaffle 11 місяців тому

    Definitely gonna watch more of your videos!

  • @roznaczygestosc
    @roznaczygestosc Рік тому +3

    I wanted to study, but your Most wanted video showed up and I just couldn't have resisted, it was that good. I watched that and now will watch about carbon (even though I've never played them, just watched both games on youtube).

  • @thebossisheretostay
    @thebossisheretostay Рік тому +13

    I never played this game back in the day, but watching your video on it and all the content on the new NFS, this one is so much more appealing from the car list, the customisation, the game modes, the locations…

  • @CaptainFALKEN
    @CaptainFALKEN 15 днів тому +1

    I've played this every year since it came out.
    This year I found out how to beat the game in under an hour using the wrong warp glitch after all this time. I beat it in about 50 minutes a couple times. Carbon never gets old.

  • @alextsig3643
    @alextsig3643 Рік тому

    Love the video keep up the good work

  • @WhiteTenpenny
    @WhiteTenpenny Рік тому +14

    One thing that I always thought was funny even as a kid was when Cross drove off, you get this dialogue for a few seconds, Cross then coming back into view in the distance and he hits that sign. That’s shit is still funny to me.

  • @knowtheplan472
    @knowtheplan472 Рік тому +5

    I found it kinda funny how in 5:10 you can see cross crash into a sign in the background

  • @_fudgepop01
    @_fudgepop01 Рік тому +2

    Tbh I really enjoyed the police chases in carbon. That plus the autosculpt feature really let my mind go wild with creativity and “choosing my own adventure” when I was younger. I spent countless hours just dicking around with silly parts that looked terrible by my standards today, but were hella wild and fun to me back then.
    I also really sucked at gaming in general, so it took a lot longer than just 5 hours. As a complete gaming package it can be considered shallow… but I was able to fill in the blanks myself when I was younger - and that, the dark “night-city” aesthetic, and the motion controls I have a guilty pleasure for on the Wii version, made it one of my favorite pieces of content I had growing up :D
    The criticisms offered in the video are completely fair - though I still can’t help but look at the live action scenes through rose-tinted nostalgia glasses lol

  • @RhythmLP
    @RhythmLP Рік тому +1

    Loving your videos dude

  • @LuizFRdeO
    @LuizFRdeO Рік тому +6

    that intermission really took me off guard man 😂😂😂
    love your videos ♥️

  • @Coolbruhjay
    @Coolbruhjay Рік тому +13

    I only remember carbon for the canyon duels they were so frustrating but so much fun

  • @michael3298
    @michael3298 Рік тому

    I remember playing this game in middle school. How did you just string me on for 40 minutes. Subbed

  • @paulsteward9582
    @paulsteward9582 4 місяці тому +1

    "Muscle car are useless"
    Me who finished the last race with Viper: skill issue

  • @dezpotizmOFheaven
    @dezpotizmOFheaven Рік тому +21

    The cut scenes in Most Wanted and Carbon were good!
    I liked them.
    What I did not like was the "Tiers" for the cars. I like being able to tune out a beginners car to compete with late game ones.
    EA should bring some updates so you can simply install and run those old NFS games on new hardware without any troubles!

  • @supahsuit
    @supahsuit Рік тому +3

    Great stuff right here. Looking forward to your channel’s future, my man

  • @thabs2001
    @thabs2001 3 місяці тому +3

    I actually really enjoyed Carbon. More than MW I think.
    I wanna play this again. Let me buy your game, EA

  • @mckenna5794
    @mckenna5794 9 місяців тому +1

    Equip a draft member. Get in 1st place. Active draft so they get in front of you. Deactivate draft and watch them take off. They win, you win. Easy peasy.

  • @Allrj
    @Allrj Рік тому +7

    Please never stop making videos, you're my new favorite game reviewer

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +3

      this is the raddest comment possible, dude. much love!

  • @snakejoel1
    @snakejoel1 Рік тому +7

    I've randomly come across this channel tonight and I'm loving the videos 🔥
    Keep them coming, amazing work

  • @alexbrothers11
    @alexbrothers11 Рік тому

    Watched the whole vid. One of my fav racing games growing up. 10/10 would recommend