GPU PCB Breakdown: RTX 3080 TUF (basically the same as RTX 3090 TUF)
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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ASUS playing nice this gen.
Strange seeing one of the cheapest 3080's being the best.
I hope the RTX 3070 version has the same quality with founder's MRSP.
@Ben T. sooo. They can make good cooler if they are able to? It's like audi can make good engine if they happen to do so. Soooo Zidane can do nice goal if the ball hits the net aaaand sometimes it doesn't. Actually that means they suck at making gpus because sometimes they actually factually suck eventho they try to make it good.
@Ben T. Asus always fuck up the amd cards, don't buy Asus for amd
@Ben T. I goes way back, their R9 series were bad as well. My R9 290 had the same cooler as the GTX 780 and the chip was different (AMD was narrower and taller) while the NVIDIA chip was more square which made the cooler leave some heatpipes outside of the chip. I saw 90+ temps in a well ventilated case, same as the AMD reference design and it was loud as hell.
I'd buy an Asus 3080 Tuf right now but it's impossible to find one.
So the "Military Grade" marketing on this card really did hold up.
Take that Steve from Gamers Nexus 🤣
I can't imagine a Buildozoid video without "BASICALLLLY". Now is in the title too.
Never change Buildzoid, we love you the way you are :)
he literally likes to technically keep things basic
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Sometimes he uses Rambling instead.
34:23 Conclusion
A QUICK NOTE: You mentioned the DrMOS power stages' thermal flag and wondered why they don't provide monitoring. Basically, it's a matter of economy. These PS do (as you've noted) have internal shunts to monitor current, but in order to transmit that value, they'd have to include an addition channel of A-D converter (for which there may or may not be enough room left over on the die) whereas a simple (and much cheaper) comparator is all that's needed to "flag" a value over spec.
Please, ASUS makes the RTX 3070 version with the same quality and price target.
I don't want to buy crappy Zotac Trinity graphic card.
Trinity is not crappy. my 3090 trinity matches STRIX in 3dmark Timespy
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www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-strix-oc-review,28.html
@@Hogdriva of course performance will be practically the same, but since it's a kinda expensive card, I'm trying to get the best value for my money.
Really looking forwards to strix pcb. A friend of mine achieved quite decent clocks on that with stock limits, must be some secret sauce going on
Would you agree that this very possibly the sweet spot for price to performance in ampere? That's the conclusion and this card has been my recommendation so far was wondering if i was off.
Right now, it seems the best card price/quality right now.
I really doubt any other AIB is able to beat it, at least for a while.
Yes 3080 and this specific model is the best price/perf/value of all Ampere by a long shot.
@@invertexyz yeah, I like the details of almost everything is a bit better than average/reference with decent price.
Actually, I'd expect something like this in Strix or MSI Gaming X version.
@@libertariancat4514 too bad its impossible to find any asus cards at msrp.
I have a Asus 3080 TUF and it is AMAZING. +140 Core/+500 Memory easy OC and never goes over 61-62c. Best 3080 besides Strix IMO.
can we GET 3080 strix/oc pcb BREAKDOWN PLEASE POG :)
pls
Pls
@@sullivandamn do you think the higher price of the 3080 strix oc is worth it over the tuf edition?
@@littlecoachbodie Yeah 100%. I think if you have the budget the strix on an OC gets to really high levels. TUF is the best bang for buck out of all 3 but my strix is fantastic.
@@sullivandamn Ok, I will look into getting a strix. :D
thanks for the upload and all your pcb analysis. Great work keep it up!
3:48 I thought about it differently because I'm not an electrical engineer, I thought if they split the power delivery for the core then why not do the same for the Uncore and the memory?
Thank you for making these videos BTW and taking the time to explain these tevhnical concepts to the average joe
I flashed the Strix 3080 bios to this card. It works but the lack of a third 8 pin makes the actual power delivery wonky. You end up with lower clocks even though the afterburner says 450W. Perhaps you could mod the bios to work correctly? The Trio takes strix bios well.
Subscribed for Strix PCB Breakdown :p
Strange one of the cheapest is one of the best ones this time around.
у нас в России 1100$
Buildzoid is MY bestfriend:)
Would like to see the Aorus xtreme. It's going to be $900. Why
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Could be materials but could also be the power limit. It seems manufactures have figured out that people will buy more for cards with higher limits. Case in point: ASUS Strix and EVGA FTW have 450W limits as opposed to "standard" 370W limits.
3 HDMI 2.1 outputs & 3 Display Ports compared to 3 DP & only 1 HDMI on most 3080s, 3 8 pin pcie power connectors which apparently have "power indicator LEDs", LCD customizable display $creen, of course RGB, and a core clock of 1905 MHZ. Interestingly, the Xtreme bios has a power limit of 370 watts, while the Master is 380. Still baffles me they aren't allowing more power and OC headroom on cards that should be able to handle it well.
@@fuxxin8686 the LCD screen is pretty neat looking if you have a PC that's on display. Mine isn't, so it's mostly wasted on me.
criz nittle yeah it’s a nice looking gpu for sure. Don’t recall if it flips up for vertical mounting like the Vulcan (2.1 KG monster) or not, but it looks like it displays detail pretty well on pictures
I'd really like to see a breakdown of the 3080 AORUS Master, there's absolutely nothing from the PCB that's visible without taking it apart.
I have both: asus 3080 tuf oc and msi 3080 ventus oc. Finally termals are actually more then 10c lower for tuf in comparison with ventus. This design of the card is better.
That was the 3080 I leaned towards, design and price-wise, but I don't buy any hardware unless I hear Buildzoid's opinion. Glad to see it's good! I'll probably buy it when (or if...) it is available.
It's interesting how the images of TUF cards on the box have POSCAPs, Did they plan to use them and change their mind after more testing you think?
Does the regular TUF 3080 (non-OC) have the same 6 capacitors? I thought this was the regular one, but the link sends me to the review for the OC version. So, I assume this review is the OC version.
I laughed when he wrote ^SS when talking about the power plane. That's my mood today.
Schutzstaffel is fun and joy
hope you do a breakdown of the 3080 ftw3, its a super popular card, gamers nexus should have pcb photos if you need them.
FE was 17/23/30w for 200/250/300A I think on core voltage which is a fair bit cooler, on the other hand it's more densely packed on the PCB.
paid 700€ for it, super happy, thanks for the breakdown.
700€ ? Where ? Cheapest i can find here in France or over Germany is over 870€ so i would be surprised if it's any cheaper to other EU countries .
@@alb9229 amazon italy the 17 september , the preorder last like 20 minutes, i was lucky to get one.
What are your thoughts on the FTW3 Ultra Gaming from EVGA?
Yeah, keen to know this as well. In Australia, the Evga 3080 FTW3 Ultra is $130AUD (about $90 US) cheaper than the Asus 3080 TUF (non OC version). Asus screws us with pricing in Australia, EVGA doesn't.
@@KieranShort 90 or 900 USD
@@TheKento10 90usd cheaper than the asus tuf price in Australia.
Kieran Short
Nope- EVGA FTW3 Ultra is 1499. TUF (non OC) is 1459.
Yes! I'd love to see a breakdown of the FTW3 Ultra...
What an awesome detailed review. Thanks!
great overview thanks
Can't wait for the Stix breakdown
My 3090 tuf looks like it uses Panasonic capacitors front and back. Different from front and back of the screenshots. Mosfets are SiC654A.
Finally plz more and more of RTX 3080 PCB Breakdowns
from images i can find on retailer websites like newegg and bestbuy, the caps behind the chip are all smd poylmers now, did they change this post launch or do they use different cards for product images
The early product images were from engineering and validation samples. The design was subsequently changed to full MLCCs due to those cards failing validation. To my knowledge no Asus RTX 3000 card shipped with polymer capacitors behind the GPU.
How much watt is it safe to push into the MSI 3090 Gaming X trio ?
Currently flashed the evga FTW3 Ultra OC bios and it's running at 420-450Watts instead of the original 390Watts limit, performing extremely well, do you think i can go further?
Give me the TSMC variants when they come out :)
They wont.
Good to know I had the right hunch and bought the best, not ridiculously priced (ftw3, strixx) RTX 3090. Cost me even less than the zotac I had for a while (returned it, didn't sell it on ebay like a scalper) . Man, not only the pcb is crap on the zotac, the whole card feels like a toy, plastic, bending backplate and all, compared to the metal construction of the TUF . Good job Asus!
Will you be covering the strix soon?
Just watched your GN vid on the FTW3 and then this, so my comment might be related to the GN video ...
You were commenting that a chip had overcurrent protection, but not a current readout, and it sounded like you were wondering why 1 and not the other? Well, it might just use a simple comparator, and it's probably not terribly precise! Same with temp .. could simply monitor one part of the die pack with a comparator that trips somewhere between x and y degrees.
Very much hoping for that strix pcb analysis, its currently the contender for the 3080 I might be getting. (Though if its price edges on 5900xt im not too sure)
thanks for the transparency
Yes! about time, sadly still waiting for mine in queue 479......
What is your queue?
My position is 69......
Wow so original 👏 🙄 how childish are you!? Go back to jayz2cents..
681 ... I'm not crying...you're crying
What shop? What country? What card?
For me UK scan, card 80 oc, queue am 140
@@haloharry97 Overclockers UK, RTX 3080 TUF OC, last week 27, this week 12 ship/cancel.
Waiting for Aorus 3080 Master or Extreme Pcb analysis.. If he praises it, will be buying that only.
I want too see one day the the kingpin vs the strix card i know they both have high power capability. not that i can get either lol but fun to watch.
Any plans to break down the Aorus Master? If you'd like I'd be willing to disect mine and take pictures and send over. Let me know.
I managed to get one of these, so very happy, and lucky clearly.
This will have big impact
that's what she said!!
Sure, but what about the military grade parts, and fan shroud design?
@Ben T. fun marketing though. Interesting to see who actually buys based on that haha
Is there any material difference between this card and the OC TUF card? Or are you just paying for a different default bios?
No, Yes. As far as I Know.
Exactly the same card, just factory OC.
can't wait for mine to come in. hope it arrives before cyberpunk.
did it?
@@Andytlp nope. eta is Feb.
@@demounit oof
@@Andytlp it's a tuff life man. I'm bummed.
CAN we please get an Asus RTX 3090 STRIX OC PCB breakdown?
Still waiting for that Strix pcb breakdown, especially since I heard a rumor the Strix doesn’t use the PCI-E power
is the Asus Tuf 3080 better than the Evga XC3 Ultra 3080?
100%. He did a breakdown of the 3080 FTW3 and you can imagine how cut down the XC3 is
If I got you pictures of my aorus 3090 master pcb would you do a video?
I can't believe I actually bought a Tuf series product...At least it doesn't look like a deconstructed Tonka dump-truck toy...It does have the tire tracks from said toy tho...Oh well. It performs well.
can you do the strix model ?
Lol?
man, could you please help me choosing the right card, I write down my choices:
These are the 3070 Tis that I wanna use it for mining :
Asus Tuf
Msi Gaming X trio
Zotac AmpHolo
Gigabyte gaming oc
Zotac Trinity
I'm leaning toward the Msi gamigX trio and asus tuf. Which one do you think gives higher hashrate, better quality and better thermals?
so assuming msrp. you think the strix is worth the extra 150 over the tuf?
Are you going to tighten timings on video card memory?
hi, my question is ... junction temp above 100 is dangerous? ... and what about changes in temperatures from 50 to 100 and back and forth, is it dangerous in long term? thx
So which brands out there are downcosted as much as physically possible?
can you do breakdown on RTX 3080 Vulcan?
the card already reviewed by Techpowerup.
So the 3080 TUF and 3080 TUF OC have the same board? Do they have the same board power and power max???
What do you think about changing the 0005 resistor to shunt mod it like derbauer to get a little bit more power on basic card like zotac ?thanks for the reply
Could the 10 PS be only running as 8, but the controler rotates which PSs are active to give 2 time to cool down?
Please do Strix 3090 and 3080.
Asus Oc Panel II should work too with voltage control? It has the hotwire control.
Hi mate,
Could you do a review of the MSI 3090 Suprim X PcB?
Asus Vs EVGA:
Customer support and ease of mind EVGA > Asus.
Card PCB Asus >= EVGA excluding the STRIX which is Asus > EVGA.
I've found asus rms easy I just walked into rms center with broken part and receipt and got it back in a few days but I've had a laptop screen and Asus mobo break. Asus products are sh1t they always breakdown.
How good is the Asus Dual? More noisy?
Is the palit 3080 gaming pro oc good? Is palit a good brand?
Checked out the v2 card?
What i seen it lookes the same except the GA102-202-KD-A1 LHR gpu.
Is this one better than both EVGA one and founder edition?
In my opinion, yes.
The two up9512 Can share the power stages. 8+8 is 16 so two are shared i Think
is this OC? or NON-OC? U never said it
No word on the strix breakdown?
I've got the 12GB version of this card. Do you know if it is the same PCB and cooler design as the 10GB? I can't find many reviews about the 12GB variants.
its the same PCB with 2 extra memory modules.
Can you attach 2 more memory chips in the empty spots and have a 3080 with 12gigs of vram
No they are locked out in the core so it would be a waste of money & time. Late but might help another 🤣
Thanks
Did Nvidia send a threatening phone call yet?
Great content but buildzoid your notes are too dark.....
the only "review" that really matters
3080ti tuf are the same with those 2 ?
I have one of these and its incredible,i can overclock the core by 200mhz and temps remain mid 60's . Think i got lucky :)
Try undervolting.
Hey, will you do a breakdown on 3070 TUF?
I've heard that Asus GPU have short lifespan . thanks in advance
From WHO? ASUS are best vs crappy Gigabyte!
14:25 I love the joke XD
I've been wondering if I should buy this or the MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 3080
I prefer msi over this for its looks.
And Also I do not plan on overclocking the gpu.
So is it OK if I buy MSI or should I stick to this?
If you are not overclocking buy it on looks because what parts are inside do not matter since you are not stressing the card past it's specifications.
Hmmm... the datasheet of the uP9512 says it supports 2MHz :)
can you please do a breakdown of the asus strix 3070 thank you
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking
Which PCB is better TUF or FE? Many thanks!
Thermals are better on the TUF... or actually any AIB compared to FE.
You think your smart until you watch buildzoid video
If I ever can get a 3080 it probably will be the TUF, sure the Strix would be nicer, but about 100€ more and a new 3rd powercable extension on top is a big bump in price.
But first lets see and wait what AMD can offer.
Keep in mind that Strix cards have great resale value, so whatever you're spending on top upfront should get kicked back when you sell it
if there are 10 power stage wouldn't it just be a 5 phase (5x2)? Unless there is a way to eyeball if the controller is running 8 phases.
the controller has 8 current sense circuits and there have been other Nvidia GPUs with odd phase counts with 8 phase controllers.
lets ball some memory on M5 & M6
what is the zig-zaggy name on those chokes? "Zap III" or... hard to read
SAP II
@@robertclayton4399 Thank you!
Can we GET GIGABYTE 3080 Vision OC pcb BREAKDOWN PLEASE?!?!?
The TUF GAMING OC 3090 is the best 3090 out their I haven't seen another 3090 that meets its standards. Even the Strix but that's just my opinion.... it's why I bought my TUF GAMING OC 3090 and not the ROG Strix.
Why did you buy tuf over strix?
you dumb? Strix is always an step ahead of TUF in GPUs, but it usually costs a lot more.
Is this the regular TUF or the OC version?
Hardware-wise they're most likely the same.
The question is simple.
Can we unlock the potential of 3090 to 3080 by uploading a new BIOS?
can anyone link the thermal pads?
we should be able to order custom those the components youre self and they build it like a car they have a list of options giving us the power to chose what its capable of
But then the AIB’s would have to handle the logistics of making shipping selling etc - also this would only be interesting to a very small part of the even already small pc enthusiasts community. But I do agree that it for sure would be cool