You know… AFO being a friend of Tenko’s father is funny because that means Nana abandoned her family for basically nothing. Her whole reason for doing that was so that AFO wouldn’t find him but he ended up not only finding him but becoming a “friend” of him who also met her grandson when he was a baby. It’s too bad Nana’s seemingly dead for good now because I would’ve loved to have seen her reaction after realizing that.
I’m not sure but I think he met up with tenko’s dad after nana died I think he got the information that she had a family from her before he killed her cause how else would he have found out🤷🏽♂️again I could b wrong but I think that’s what horikoshi was aiming for🤷🏽♂️
@@jayhood2251 how exactly do you think that exchange went down? AFO: Before I kill you, would you mind telling me if you happen to have a husband or a child or some other family member? Nana: Why yes I have a-I MEAN N-NO I DON’T! AFO: Gotcha. Well, I’m gonna kill you now.
I don't get whats so surprising about AFO not having enough "hatred" for so many people. His main emotion/desires seems to be based around - greed, power, pleasure. Heck, the only semblance of "hatred" I can recall from AFO was during Eri's rewind, when the hero's were trying to delay him from reaching Shigaraki. And if anything, that felt more like being immensely irritated or annoyed than a direct "hatred'.
Yeah, afo is petty and annoyed by people but it wouldn’t make sense for him to randomly have the willpower stronger than several heroes. Shigaraki was fostered for that specific purpose so it makes sense
Of course AFO doesn't have the emotional range of normal people, he's been completely detached from humanity itself from the moment he was born. Everything normal people are capable of like feeling emotions and forming attachments are seen as beneath him, they're completely foreign to him.
You pretty much explained it yourself. It’s the vestige of afo. It’s been there the whole time. Killing the body isn’t gonna get rid of the vestige since someone else has the quirk. It’s how every quirk has worked that we’ve seen so far
@@kirbo4111 Goofy how you present this fact about him like is his most important feat, but forget his quirk is about stealing others but how many did he stole during all this time? One, only one during alm tgis arc.
@@ctsv444it’s not gone she just didn’t have enough to rewind aizawa back a couple months. Since this *just* happened to deku she wouldn’t need to rewind him much
Dont yall read 😅 wasnt that shut down a few chapters ago when That Teacher stopped eri from leaving the school? Remember the cliffhanger where it shows her running out? It was done
Afo didn’t take overhauls quirk because he didn’t care about his original body since he planned to have a vessel. And shigaraki has hyper regeneration. So functionally, there’s no need or reason at all for the quirk. They already made a more powerful version essentially. A better destruction through modification and a better regeneration. And afo isn’t the type of character that wants world destruction just monopoly and control
@@kingofhearts3185yeah, I should mention that another comment brought up something that afo apparently stated before back when he first appeared. He mentioned that he doesn’t take really technical quirks because they’re too complicated to use/learn to use to be practical. It’s the reason he didn’t take best jeanists quirk. And overhaul as a whole seems like a very complicated and technical quirk to learn to use properly without horribly messing up and disfiguring or even anything you touch including yourself
I mean he could just make the perfect vessel with overhauls quirk. Overhauls quirk is extremely broken and seemingly have no limits to what it could do. Tbh I think this story has way too many oversights.
@@markhouston501I don’t see it that way, overhaul is broken yes, but I don’t see a need for it since decay is a better destructive aspect , and hyper regen is a better reconstructive aspect. For shigaraki specifically, if he had both parts, he might have been able to fix his life somehow since he could just undo everything, it’d still be traumatic sure but the tragedy could’ve been undone potentially. For afo specifically his goals don’t seem to have a need for overhaul since the other two quirks I mentioned are practically perfect for what his specific goal is. I can understand not liking that or rocking with it though
@@kirbo4111 That's a really good point. Breaking down and rebuilding things, and especially merging them sounds complicated. Especially when it comes to people. I forgot he said that.
I like the deeper connection between shigiraki and overhaul Afo final looks cold, the hand over the mouth is a nice touch, which also reminds me of overhaul
i feel overhall would help the heros after relizing that afo had done to him in the past along with if every budy helps deku up and i wouldnt be mad if he got his arms back and kept some of all for one and just beat all for one in a jjk jumping with all the other heros would be great and pretty cool
Overhaul can fuse with people effectively becoming AFO with built in regen and insta-kill if eri rewinds as much as a finger he could restore everyone back to full strength to beat afo
You pretty much hit the nail about overhauls quirk about why didnt they just take it. Like how bakugou and the second user kudo was it, looked similar being a coincidence, i guess its the same for overhaul and shigaraki, that or horikoshi just put that in the last second with plotholes
Afo likely just didn’t need it. He didn’t care about his original body after he planned to have a vessel for a new one And they basically made a better version of overhaul anyways. A stronger destruction aspect through modification. And a better regeneration through hyper regeneration. Otherwise he didn’t need it and afo mainly goes after people he’s annoyed by
AFO once expressed his dislike for complicated quirks against Best Jeanist, and if I’m not mistaken Overhaul trained up or took time to fully understand his quirk. I’d like to think that the simple complexity of the quirk is why he never chose Overhaul
@@realraprawlol I don't think it's because it's not destructive enough, but because it requires a lot of external material. To use Jeanists quirk effectively you either have to have sidekicks, wear a lot of strong clothes (which we all know he's adverse to), or have specially made rope (like he used against Gigantomachia).
I think overhauls gonna come in clutch and save Deku, Remember all the past villain came and helped in the war except for him, and remember Deku let him meet his boss/dad again, So I can see him replaying him in return by healing his arms
It's likely. From a genetics perspective, it's not impossible; but it is stretch to harvest this gene with it's dual factor. On the other hand, if Overhaul's base quirk was disintegration in nature, remember All Might told Deku quirks have been known to evolve and be reported later in life. Overhaul may have wished to return matter; whereas Shigaraki wished to destroy everything. It's the metaphor of the knife, it is a weapon, but it is also a tool. UA-cam may forbid me from using more drastic examples.
I still don't think he lost OFA. I still think he has it. I just feel like if he did lose it, AFO would be gloating about it. Plus, with what AFO said It sounds He doesn't even know what's happening P.s. i am so tired of AFO. I just stay dead, old man😂
He probably still has it. The first user was gone when he only had Nana in the vestige world. I’m thinking his vestige is gone but the quirk is still there. Even the first user said that all of the users but Banjo was allowed to transfer. Deku probably still has OFA
A good fix to the plothole would be that whenever a quirk is copied, it is unstable or not a perfect copy. Just a derivative. So the decay aspect was copied and since it was so volatile, it was perfect for AFOs plan.
Ochaco also got stabbed on her hips but Toga saves her life by giving all of her blood and now she’s out cold and reporters are in a hurry and Shoto is out cold after overusing his quirk by burning his chest
Horikoshi "quelling" Eri's usibility in the final battle felt like a "red herring" (I don't know if that's the proper use of the term in this instance). But, all that shit with Eri and Ectoplasm was just to make us THINK that she wasn't gonna be used to help.
@@yoru8815 Kudo was talking about the quirk factors within One for All getting transferred When AfO says “My OfA, my Yoichi” he could just be referring to the vestige of his brother no longer being there. I’m still not sold on Deku not having the quirk anymore. For all we know transferring the actual thing could be what finally defeats All for One
@@Sjono read manga plus for official translation, the first page already talk about "how dare you destroy my one for all" keyword here destroy. Everyone seems to be in denial.
The doctors said if deku keeps overusing and abusing his arms he’ll won’t be able to use them anymore. Somehow/some way deku will get his arms back but it’ll be new arms
First, I think Yorichi fled back into Deku after detecting AfO's consciousness through familial bond, because AFO did not confirm he has OFA finally. 2nd I think that Shigaraki is not dead, AFO swallowed his consciousness and i think that's why he put that hand over his mouth to contain him. If Shigaraki's rage and hatred would he enough to steal OFA when he couldn't, then imagine that rage multiplied upon learning the truth of his origins from AFO. 2nd I think 1 of 4 things will happen. Either Shigaraki will come forward and awaken the reconstruct aspect of the decay quirk and give deku back his arms to destroy him and AfO. Overhaul will regain his mental stability and breakdown and rebuild Deku's body to be strong enough to withstand OFA 100% permanently. Monima uses a copy of Overhaul's quirk to rebuild Deku's body. Eri is teleported throughout the battlefields to rewinds all of class A pushing her quirk to the max, and everyone joins the final battle at full strength. My personal favorite is Overhaul because last time we saw him, he was remorseful over ehat he has done to the boss and Eri, this could be his redemption arc repairing and strengthening Deku
@johnfischer_2 That is why I thought of Monima, he can mimic Overhauls quirk. I know Eri's horn hasn't built up enough power, it's a hail mary that someone might be able to super charge her so it can grow. Just putting options out there from the possiblities of quirk combinations out there.
God damn, it's like reading the Naruto war arc again with Madara. "You beat the bad guy! Wait nope, you did! Nope, new power up... But wait! He-no, never mind." Just fucking end AFO already. He's not even the thematic villain for Deku to fight, Shigaraki is. It's far more important for the heroes to stomp AFO out altogether.
AFO destroying or having planned most of shigarakis life didnt really ruin his ideas. shigaraki still chose to kill his parents, the people who ignored him and didnt lend a hand CHOSE to do so. society CHOSE to still fail him so even if his life was orchestrated its not like he oversaw everything
also them killing off the shigaraki personality makes the "Redemming tenko" plotline more understandable. because now hes trying to save the memory of a little kid inside of AFO
@@WoahJustTakeItEasyMan Oh, I liked the end battle with Naruto and Sasuke. Thematically significant, cool power thrown around. Impactful. But I didn't like how annoyingly long it took to take down Madara and Obito, another dual villain scenario not unlike this one. Madara got so overpowered the manga had to introduce ANOTHER villain just to get rid of him. Here, a final fight between Shigaraki and Deku, for Tenko's soul, makes sense. Everyone taking on OFA together makes sense. But having a multitude of heroes whittle down OFA and beat him, only so he can just be fought again by the main character, makes it feel like that whole arc of fighting him was pointless.
one of the main reasons why i don't think Deku is quirkless now is because that'd kinda contradict one of the first things Deku said in the story, which paraphrasing, is something like how he ends up being one of the greatest heros. it'd be so anti climatic for him to become the greatest hero just for him to not have a quirk. plus Eri can just use rewind when she's older or have enough power to rewind Deku back to a point where he has OFA
Yeah, but the story has always shown us that it's his determination, strategy and admiration of others' quirks that puts him above the rest. I think, even with embers of One for All left, it's gonna come down to him navigating the others in a strategy that utilizes all their quirks best to beat down on AFO to culminate in one last group SMAAAASH led by Deku himself. A sort of United World of Smash! Besides, Batman is quirkless and he's one of the best superheroes out there. Why can't Deku be the same?
SHIGARAKI REBUILDING HIMSELF WITH HIS GIFT OF REBUILDING, OR HE WILL COME BACK, TAKE CONTROL AND DEFEAT AFO, OR HE WILL END UP DYING, WHAT A CONDEMNATION AND A TERRIBLE EXECUTION, WHY?, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL HEROES
The rebuild thing could have some interesting themes to it, growing past what he was made to be. I still hope he either dies or gets reverted to a child rather than a full redemption though.
One of my worries was that AFO would become less involved in the story in favor of Shigaraki, when AFO is the one behind the scenes, always causing so much trouble. So to return the focus on him being the main big bad, it's relieving to see.
All for one not taking Overhaul isn't really a plot hole its more All for ones character flaw. He didn't bother to take it because it presumably requiers a lot of training and that is somthing he won't do with his quirks because he is the demon lord and the demon lord doesent train. He even said so about Shigaraki witch basically meant himself because he is going to take over anyway. Without training Overhaul is just another insta kill quirk witch is more of a detriment for All for one because as far as we know people need to be alive for him to steal their quirks. He probably could use it but its pretty redundant since he already used it on Tenko. Hell maybe this is just one of those moments where All for one just decided not to use that quirk just cause. Also in the oficial translations its reveald that All for one fueld Kotaros haterd and made him stricter and more abusive. It really was all because of him.
Idk if anybody noticed but Deku still hasnt reached 100% of One for All. Also, imagine Eri shows up and rewinds The Shig back to Tenko, before the decay, and to where he had his original quirk, making him grow up and start a new life
@CosmicSaiyan613 His hair and eyes glow and get spiky when he uses 100% not when he stacks 45% with Fa Jin (The Lady Nagant fight shows this) also the second user straight up says he's using 120% of One For All, he surpassed 100%
I might be wrong, but I think there will be like a way out of it since we know that in the beginning Izuku was telling his story of how he became No.1 hero, but we don't know how his future self looks. So I think we will get to see something maybeEri could help him.
If Aizawa has two eyes and a leg which are NOT prosthetics, one would assume that Eri may still play a role. If not, he's basically become Michael Ironsides character from Starship Troopers.
You forget that AFO doesn't like to take quirks that are hard to use and control. Overhaul's Gramps stated that his quirk was a mutations like Eri's and so because of that he wanted him to help her understand her quirk (but we all know what actually happened). But what I'm getting at is that Overhaul had to use his quirk in a way to where AFO wouldn't have wanted to learn all that cause he's lazy when it comes to quirks.
i kinda agree with you. but, decay being a MODIFIED VERSION of overhaul literally explains the AFO character's flaw. just look how flexible tomura use that quirk and don't even require training. it would be better if AFO just took Overhaul's full power and modified it.
@@strangeman876 You're forgetting that Shiggy grew up with that quirk so of course he's able to use it flawlessly. AFO is definitely lazy but he was able to use the quirk in that last chapters cause he took over shiggys body and their minds fused so however Shiggy used it AFO instantly knew how to do it. And yes it being a remodified version of Overhauls quirk is crazy and he should have used that one quirk. But again it probably needed some special way to use it that he wasn't invested in doing. Overhaul grew up with his quirk also so he was able to use it flawlessly. I would have loved to see the quirk used in it's natural state but AFO playln was to make Shiggy the catalyst for destruction. So how much pain can you cause a kid oh I know make him kill his own family. So with that being said if he activated the original quirk and instead of killing them he learned he could put stuff together and then learned he could dismantle it. The AFO plan for Shiggy being the Vessel of Hatred just went down the drain and then he would have created one if not the strongest hero in the japanese world. So why risk that and just let him find out about his quirk by killing everyone leading him on a pathway of hell .... Yea that sounds way more like a AFO plan to me.
@@lunarneos Im thinking that way since i watched the scene where little tomura accidentally killed his own family with his quirk without learning how to trigger the quirk. sure he doesn't have full control of his quirk at that point and that's the only thing he have to learn. i think i've missed some details but i think Overhaul's quirk is still too useful for AFO to ignore it. it can manipulate matters, recode genetic, and make anything renewable using that quirk and probably useful for Daruma experiments.
@@strangeman876 I see what you're saying but you also forget emotions can dictate a quirk so me watching that scene I remember Tomura was a crying boy and hurt from getting that whooping so in his head he wanted to kill his father but his emotions lashed out through his quirk. We know AFO is basically emotionless until it comes to the Second user and then we find out why later , but also thinking about Overhaul in the situation. It's the same thing. Overhaul had all that pint up anger and resentment. So it makes sense on how the two used the quirk and why AFO didn't use it. But you're right why not keep that quirk for himself it's too broken. That's why in my head it makes sense on how it's used for AFO not to be able to use it cause of it's activation and why he gave it to Tomura and why he wanted him to be the vessel to take OFA. And in the same sense, we know Overhaul was in the same orphanage tha dabi was in and they were candidates for AFO to eventually take over. But he ultimately decided on taking Tomura instead. And with that being said we know doc changed something about all those kids at the orphanage either they were eventually Nomu test subjects like Dabi or quirks got token and reformed and mutated like Overhaul. It just makes more sense with the lore that we have of the series on why things played out the way they played out.
@@lunarneos i got it. i think AFO only cares for his plan at this point. he indeed wanted to play Tomura's psychological mind to make him a powerful villain with sheer hatred. since AFO only likes chaos and destruction, i think that's why he don't care about reassembling part of Overhaul. it makes sense why he chooses Tomura as his successor maybe because he is the easiest one to be played psychologically. Overhaul is extremely loyal but i think why AFO didn't choose him probably because he is too stubborn, as we see what he did to his boss.
Honestly I want to know some peoples opinions. If Deku doesn't get his arms back would it make sense. A thread through this series is that Deku has been destroying his arms and losing the ability to use them, this has gone nowhere since the forest training arc, if Deku permanently lost his arms it would follow through with that idea +Deku's fighting style is shoot style so he wouldn't be unable to fight
Deku should still have the one for all. The first user told him that even if all the vestiges go, he’ll still have the stock piling ability of one for all which is the main quirk itself so he’ll just have the same power set as all might
I think maybe why AFO / Ujiko didn’t take the base overhaul quirk is that it’s too volatile / difficult for a person to handle without being born with it or having it their whole life. With just the deconstruction half, Shigaraki accidentally destroyed his entire house. So it’s more likely to have drawbacks with non-natural users
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Fully cooked theory. Keep in mind two things: OFA accumulates power in it's users over time and that power lingers after transferring the quirk. The raw stored power that OFA has always given Deku may be lingering even now, and it may not be a quirk, but like AM's muscle form, Deku has his own unique use of the power; his full cowling. Even without his arms, he could still use shoot-style, or even better, generate some energy arms with his cowling. This would give him the power to fully realize AM's legacy and stand as the quirkless hero against the evil user of all quirks. Seems too poetic to not be a likelihood. Second part of theory is that there is no rewind, or undo, and Deku lives with his sacrifice. Imagine he gets fully functional robot arms from the support mechanic and it's all hidden beneath Deku's unexplainably long gloves. This would make Endeavor's vision still accurate, we only see Deku's gloved arms. He's already trained his legs, and learned to fire projectiles with his hands that could now be more Genos-style robotic hands. His arms have been useless to him most the series, like the writer was saying he is not the punch-prodigy, and he could never find a solution to his punching problem with a support item because he wasn't a muscle-formed AM clone. This change could really solidify Deku as his own hero, the cry-baby cyborg. All his statistical analysis built into his arm-tech with hologram displays. I have cooked this so long I'm going to be upset if it's not how it plays out.
I was hoping that Eri's quirk would serve a larger purpose to the story. Ever since Season 4 and Eri's quirk was revealed to be 'Rewind', it immediately got me thinking that AFO would see her power as a way to return his body back to its original state before his first fight with Almight. But it never came to be, which is surprising since it truly felt like Eri was being set up for something else down the line. It feels like a missed opportunity.
I think the allmight afo fight happened after overhall was A baby. Technically it was only 6 years before Deku took over. So if overhall was 28 that means over 20 years had psssed since the had overhall in “processing”
Remember guy Ayoma was given a quirk so there's some man or women fighting inside him not allowing him to use his quirk to it's max, cuz current story says that's how it works. His quirk is rebelling.
Well Deku still has a body that is apparently not normal anymore. They stopped making the recoil a threat and used that as a the reasoning+ he developed shoot style. An ember is probably enough for some bullshit
AFO didn’t make his dad abuse him, he didn’t make his family stand and watch, he didn’t make the people on the street ignore Tenko. They all chose to do those things, just like Tenko chose to kill his father, he at first chose to hold back on those thugs that harassed him, and he chose to view the LOV as teammates and people that need a hero of their own. This does not ruin his character. It’s gonna make his getback on AFO even more better.
It's been boring for more than a year now Mhs reached peak when deku first arrived to fight shigaraki when bakugo was injured but after that this series has been so mid I am just watching now so I am complete it and get over it
Hey everybody, not that you care, but I believe that "HATE" and "EVILNESS" are two completely separate things and I also believe that it is completely believable that all for one is just an evil psycho and does not have enough hate thus had to use Shig.
It actually makes a lot of sense in hindsight that decay came from overhaul not only because they're similar quirks but because Shigaraki and Chisaki both scratch and get rashy when they're stressed. Also, Deku should have a vestige in afo now right??
No because he’s quirkless, also seemingly all the vestiges and the quirk itself is gone besides AFO using danger sense because it was taken separately and not used to attack Shigaraki’s core
I was asking because all might had a vestige and he was quirkless. And I knew ofa was gone but afo is not so I assumed all the vestiges from stolen quirks would still be there at least. I'm probably missing things because these kinda videos are the only way I keep up with the manga lol
Well, one of my thoughts is maybe we will find out what Tenko’s original cork power was and maybe it’s a form of restoration or rewind or recover ability
Like when he refuses to take best jeanist quirk he may have left overhauls quirk alone because it is to complicated for him to use he has a tone of quirks but none are overly complicated
The whole story starts out with Deku saying this is how I became the number 1 hero. If he becomes the number 1 hero without a quirk that would be crazy af so yeah he’s probably not going to lose his quirk atleast not for long if at all.
Does anyone else remember then takking about ofa snd saying all might made the quirk his own thats why he has a vestige even still alive? And how being quirkless is how you can access the entirety of ofa and thats why deku unlocked its ultimate potential? I might be wrong but ima say he probably still has the quirk and at worse just lost the vestiges quirks
my take on AFO not taking Overhaul's quirk is because he wanted to change body straight up, so he didn't need to remake his own. He was already at the end of his years, and shigaraki's body already had both decay (stronger than overhaul's) and an insane regeneration (also stronger than overhaul's by a LOT) so he didn't really care, since he was 100% sure he could swap bodies in the end.
Also just that the decay quirk itself was literally the perfect tool to instill the hatred needed in shigaraki, since that’s the whole reason he needed a vessel in the first place. I don’t understand how this is a plot hole. Having a successful Shigaraki as a vessel is a way better tool to AFO then the overhaul quirk. Plus once he theoretically completed his plan he could always just go find overhaul if he needed the quirk.
Shigaraki is 100% coming back and 100% going to rebel against AFO, helping the heroes finish him off once and for all. This is not a main antagonist death lol. Deku would have done all of this for nothing, which while it could be an admittedly interesting direction, is not the kind of bleakness that a Shonen would go for nor do they have the space to properly explore such a concept. Though AFO just feels like a cop out. I would have just preferred Shigaraki breaking free from AFO metaphorically after a long battle with Deku through both of their memories, without literally bringing him back so he can fight him. It’s also just a little bit cheapening to Bakugo’s whole uncontested victory thing, but I’m pretty sure he’ll be back to help in this final fight.
I just thought about it the other half of that quirk is Eri’s isn’t it her power is the opposite of Shigg’s and their hair color is the same I think in the anime before Sigh’s awakening . It’s just a theory.
I'd love it if deku used all mights vestige and arms just popped back into existence for the fight then went back to armless after just like all might stomach wound does when he transforms
I have an idea to how deku couldnt get OFA by rewind.... maybe because it wasn't his quirk and ofa said something about his brother being gone. Although i don't really see why that should matter. I think eri can
It is stated multiple times that AFO doesn’t steal highly technical quirks. Overhauls quirk is one of the most technical. Totally makes sense he wouldn’t steal it if best Jeanist was too technical for him.
I forgot about this reason too, I was thinking another reason he didn’t steal it was because there was generally no need for him. Decay(a modified stronger half of disassemble) And hyper regeneration(a stronger and faster more efficient reconstruction) pretty much make overhaul have no purpose for afo himself
AFO just expelled Yoichi and Tenko. Calling it, their vestiges went to Deku. They’re not “gone”. Somehow Deku ends up with super regeneration and becomes the 11th user of OFA as the other vestiges and quirks return. Don’t think they’ll do the Eri thing again. That trope has been done.
I guess my question is if any of the OFA vestiges wanted to ever take over izukus body could they have? Nobody AFO stole quirks from was ever strong enough to fight back in the vestige world?
I really hope the AFO quirk is given to Izuku. It would allow his arms to regenerate and he is the only one with a strong enough will to keep afo in check
i think izuku will only have the strength of the OFA quirk just like all might and all the other quirks like dangersense and blackwhip are lost. thus enabling transfer of OFA to future generations since it is sort of now empty and can accomodate many more quirks before becomming uncontainable by a human just like it was before
I have a theory that the reason allmights vestige never faded was because deku is actually his son and all might passed down a new quirk to deku which is the essence of one for all into a whole new quirk. Plus all the other vestiges were destroyed but allmights vestige was never transferred to shigi
I must say I am disappointed with how Shigaraki's story played out. I wanted him to be truly free of All For One so he could become his own villain. What a waste.
Many of us wanted that I agree but i wouldn’t call it a waste. especially since narratively most things revolve around the two and since tenko isn’t dead just silenced for now most likely
Yeah you said it their going to use the broken decay quirk and with one for all embers and stars and stripes and make him a new quirk, or eri reminds his arms but his quirk comes back too
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What do you mean by adult?
I'm still curious what tomuras origin quirk was, as it was stated clearly that AFO took his original quirk factor
You know… AFO being a friend of Tenko’s father is funny because that means Nana abandoned her family for basically nothing. Her whole reason for doing that was so that AFO wouldn’t find him but he ended up not only finding him but becoming a “friend” of him who also met her grandson when he was a baby. It’s too bad Nana’s seemingly dead for good now because I would’ve loved to have seen her reaction after realizing that.
Yeah, that backfire pretty badly. She should have told Gran Torino to keep an eye on her son from a distance or something.
I’m not sure but I think he met up with tenko’s dad after nana died I think he got the information that she had a family from her before he killed her cause how else would he have found out🤷🏽♂️again I could b wrong but I think that’s what horikoshi was aiming for🤷🏽♂️
@@jayhood2251 how exactly do you think that exchange went down?
AFO: Before I kill you, would you mind telling me if you happen to have a husband or a child or some other family member?
Nana: Why yes I have a-I MEAN N-NO I DON’T!
AFO: Gotcha. Well, I’m gonna kill you now.
I don't get whats so surprising about AFO not having enough "hatred" for so many people.
His main emotion/desires seems to be based around - greed, power, pleasure. Heck, the only semblance of "hatred" I can recall from AFO was during Eri's rewind, when the hero's were trying to delay him from reaching Shigaraki. And if anything, that felt more like being immensely irritated or annoyed than a direct "hatred'.
Yeah, afo is petty and annoyed by people but it wouldn’t make sense for him to randomly have the willpower stronger than several heroes. Shigaraki was fostered for that specific purpose so it makes sense
Perfectly said.
yeah afo is as chill as he gets a main / final boss
Of course AFO doesn't have the emotional range of normal people, he's been completely detached from humanity itself from the moment he was born. Everything normal people are capable of like feeling emotions and forming attachments are seen as beneath him, they're completely foreign to him.
Plus the dude was literally greedy before he was even born.
You pretty much explained it yourself. It’s the vestige of afo. It’s been there the whole time. Killing the body isn’t gonna get rid of the vestige since someone else has the quirk. It’s how every quirk has worked that we’ve seen so far
The amount of people that miss this is mind blogging lol
Why defending a one dimentional morning cartoon villain who's conpletely worthless and has lost like 7 times already even to bakumid?
After this breakdown of you still don’t get it read Vigilantes or wait for the anime
@@ricky-chinaudiobecause, as i stated, it’s how every quirk has worked that we’ve seen so far. It’s consistent
@@kirbo4111 Goofy how you present this fact about him like is his most important feat, but forget his quirk is about stealing others but how many did he stole during all this time? One, only one during alm tgis arc.
eri coming in clutch in about 5 chapters
power is gone
@@ctsv444it’s not gone she just didn’t have enough to rewind aizawa back a couple months. Since this *just* happened to deku she wouldn’t need to rewind him much
Dont yall read 😅 wasnt that shut down a few chapters ago when That Teacher stopped eri from leaving the school? Remember the cliffhanger where it shows her running out? It was done
@@kirbo4111 Can we kiss
@@ctsv444no the rewind AFO had a variant of the rewind quirk
We knew Overhaul got his doomsday theory from the doctor, so it makes sense that they were connected more than we thought. Actually a cool callback.
Afo didn’t take overhauls quirk because he didn’t care about his original body since he planned to have a vessel. And shigaraki has hyper regeneration. So functionally, there’s no need or reason at all for the quirk. They already made a more powerful version essentially. A better destruction through modification and a better regeneration.
And afo isn’t the type of character that wants world destruction just monopoly and control
I think that's the best reason we can cook up. Still seems like a good one to take, but this is good enough.
@@kingofhearts3185yeah, I should mention that another comment brought up something that afo apparently stated before back when he first appeared. He mentioned that he doesn’t take really technical quirks because they’re too complicated to use/learn to use to be practical. It’s the reason he didn’t take best jeanists quirk. And overhaul as a whole seems like a very complicated and technical quirk to learn to use properly without horribly messing up and disfiguring or even anything you touch including yourself
I mean he could just make the perfect vessel with overhauls quirk. Overhauls quirk is extremely broken and seemingly have no limits to what it could do. Tbh I think this story has way too many oversights.
@@markhouston501I don’t see it that way, overhaul is broken yes, but I don’t see a need for it since decay is a better destructive aspect , and hyper regen is a better reconstructive aspect.
For shigaraki specifically, if he had both parts, he might have been able to fix his life somehow since he could just undo everything, it’d still be traumatic sure but the tragedy could’ve been undone potentially.
For afo specifically his goals don’t seem to have a need for overhaul since the other two quirks I mentioned are practically perfect for what his specific goal is. I can understand not liking that or rocking with it though
@@kirbo4111 That's a really good point. Breaking down and rebuilding things, and especially merging them sounds complicated. Especially when it comes to people. I forgot he said that.
I like the deeper connection between shigiraki and overhaul
Afo final looks cold, the hand over the mouth is a nice touch, which also reminds me of overhaul
i feel overhall would help the heros after relizing that afo had done to him in the past
along with if every budy helps deku up and i wouldnt be mad if he got his arms back and kept some of all for one and just beat all for one in a jjk jumping with all the other heros would be great and pretty cool
Overhaul can fuse with people effectively becoming AFO with built in regen and insta-kill if eri rewinds as much as a finger he could restore everyone back to full strength to beat afo
All for One out of context: “This little girl is too big for me and my plans.”
You pretty much hit the nail about overhauls quirk about why didnt they just take it. Like how bakugou and the second user kudo was it, looked similar being a coincidence, i guess its the same for overhaul and shigaraki, that or horikoshi just put that in the last second with plotholes
Afo likely just didn’t need it. He didn’t care about his original body after he planned to have a vessel for a new one
And they basically made a better version of overhaul anyways. A stronger destruction aspect through modification. And a better regeneration through hyper regeneration. Otherwise he didn’t need it and afo mainly goes after people he’s annoyed by
AFO once expressed his dislike for complicated quirks against Best Jeanist, and if I’m not mistaken Overhaul trained up or took time to fully understand his quirk. I’d like to think that the simple complexity of the quirk is why he never chose Overhaul
@@realraprawlol I thought when he was talking to jeanist, he said it wouldn't be a good match for shigi.
@@johnark4723 you’re right he did state it wasn’t fit for Shigi, probably because it’s not destructive enough.
@@realraprawlol I don't think it's because it's not destructive enough, but because it requires a lot of external material. To use Jeanists quirk effectively you either have to have sidekicks, wear a lot of strong clothes (which we all know he's adverse to), or have specially made rope (like he used against Gigantomachia).
I think overhauls gonna come in clutch and save Deku, Remember all the past villain came and helped in the war except for him, and remember Deku let him meet his boss/dad again, So I can see him replaying him in return by healing his arms
Even if Deku gets his arms healed what then he’s still quirkless now he’s useless?
@@robingoddard8883he still has the core power of ofa stockpile
@johnfischer_2 he can use it with his feet
Aged like milk
It's likely. From a genetics perspective, it's not impossible; but it is stretch to harvest this gene with it's dual factor. On the other hand, if Overhaul's base quirk was disintegration in nature, remember All Might told Deku quirks have been known to evolve and be reported later in life.
Overhaul may have wished to return matter; whereas Shigaraki wished to destroy everything. It's the metaphor of the knife, it is a weapon, but it is also a tool. UA-cam may forbid me from using more drastic examples.
I still don't think he lost OFA. I still think he has it. I just feel like if he did lose it, AFO would be gloating about it. Plus, with what AFO said It sounds He doesn't even know what's happening
P.s. i am so tired of AFO. I just stay dead, old man😂
He probably still has it. The first user was gone when he only had Nana in the vestige world. I’m thinking his vestige is gone but the quirk is still there. Even the first user said that all of the users but Banjo was allowed to transfer. Deku probably still has OFA
A good fix to the plothole would be that whenever a quirk is copied, it is unstable or not a perfect copy. Just a derivative. So the decay aspect was copied and since it was so volatile, it was perfect for AFOs plan.
Bakuguo gets his whole heart repaired and Deku loses his arms.
Damn, no good deed goes unpunished
Ochaco also got stabbed on her hips but Toga saves her life by giving all of her blood and now she’s out cold and reporters are in a hurry and Shoto is out cold after overusing his quirk by burning his chest
@@Rjay0922Toga is straight up dead dude
@@MrRobertGillan I know Toga is dead and I said reporters are in a hurry to take Ochaco to the hospital
Horikoshi "quelling" Eri's usibility in the final battle felt like a "red herring" (I don't know if that's the proper use of the term in this instance). But, all that shit with Eri and Ectoplasm was just to make us THINK that she wasn't gonna be used to help.
All for One says “I was planning to dispose of Tenko’s mind after i attained One for All, oh well”
Meaning he doesn’t have the entire quirk yet
It either means, OFA is dead and gone forever, or deku have a small bit of OFA just like all might
@@alexjackyperson101
It means Deku still has One for All
Hmm no, the official translation is one for all is destroyed. Remember what kudo said, violent transfer can destroy the quirk the itself.
@@yoru8815
Kudo was talking about the quirk factors within One for All getting transferred
When AfO says “My OfA, my Yoichi” he could just be referring to the vestige of his brother no longer being there.
I’m still not sold on Deku not having the quirk anymore. For all we know transferring the actual thing could be what finally defeats All for One
@@Sjono read manga plus for official translation, the first page already talk about "how dare you destroy my one for all" keyword here destroy.
Everyone seems to be in denial.
Ma boy deku got the overhaul treatment 😢, eri gonna fix this tho…
I can smell the anti climax right away
I think she can get one of his arm back
At least he doesn't have to worry about nerve damage to his arms like the original story started off discussing. He has no arms to worry about.
The doctors said if deku keeps overusing and abusing his arms he’ll won’t be able to use them anymore. Somehow/some way deku will get his arms back but it’ll be new arms
@@KJ-ql4nm Deku gonna turn into Jax from Mortal Kombat with robotic arms.
First, I think Yorichi fled back into Deku after detecting AfO's consciousness through familial bond, because AFO did not confirm he has OFA finally. 2nd I think that Shigaraki is not dead, AFO swallowed his consciousness and i think that's why he put that hand over his mouth to contain him. If Shigaraki's rage and hatred would he enough to steal OFA when he couldn't, then imagine that rage multiplied upon learning the truth of his origins from AFO. 2nd I think 1 of 4 things will happen. Either Shigaraki will come forward and awaken the reconstruct aspect of the decay quirk and give deku back his arms to destroy him and AfO. Overhaul will regain his mental stability and breakdown and rebuild Deku's body to be strong enough to withstand OFA 100% permanently. Monima uses a copy of Overhaul's quirk to rebuild Deku's body. Eri is teleported throughout the battlefields to rewinds all of class A pushing her quirk to the max, and everyone joins the final battle at full strength. My personal favorite is Overhaul because last time we saw him, he was remorseful over ehat he has done to the boss and Eri, this could be his redemption arc repairing and strengthening Deku
@johnfischer_2 That is why I thought of Monima, he can mimic Overhauls quirk. I know Eri's horn hasn't built up enough power, it's a hail mary that someone might be able to super charge her so it can grow. Just putting options out there from the possiblities of quirk combinations out there.
God damn, it's like reading the Naruto war arc again with Madara. "You beat the bad guy! Wait nope, you did! Nope, new power up... But wait! He-no, never mind."
Just fucking end AFO already. He's not even the thematic villain for Deku to fight, Shigaraki is. It's far more important for the heroes to stomp AFO out altogether.
They both are, just shigaraki more so
AFO destroying or having planned most of shigarakis life didnt really ruin his ideas. shigaraki still chose to kill his parents, the people who ignored him and didnt lend a hand CHOSE to do so. society CHOSE to still fail him so even if his life was orchestrated its not like he oversaw everything
also them killing off the shigaraki personality makes the "Redemming tenko" plotline more understandable. because now hes trying to save the memory of a little kid inside of AFO
I guess this style of writing just doesn't bother me as much as it does others. 😂 I actually loved naruto shippudens end too.
@@WoahJustTakeItEasyMan Oh, I liked the end battle with Naruto and Sasuke. Thematically significant, cool power thrown around. Impactful. But I didn't like how annoyingly long it took to take down Madara and Obito, another dual villain scenario not unlike this one. Madara got so overpowered the manga had to introduce ANOTHER villain just to get rid of him.
Here, a final fight between Shigaraki and Deku, for Tenko's soul, makes sense. Everyone taking on OFA together makes sense. But having a multitude of heroes whittle down OFA and beat him, only so he can just be fought again by the main character, makes it feel like that whole arc of fighting him was pointless.
one of the main reasons why i don't think Deku is quirkless now is because that'd kinda contradict one of the first things Deku said in the story, which paraphrasing, is something like how he ends up being one of the greatest heros. it'd be so anti climatic for him to become the greatest hero just for him to not have a quirk. plus Eri can just use rewind when she's older or have enough power to rewind Deku back to a point where he has OFA
Yeah, but the story has always shown us that it's his determination, strategy and admiration of others' quirks that puts him above the rest. I think, even with embers of One for All left, it's gonna come down to him navigating the others in a strategy that utilizes all their quirks best to beat down on AFO to culminate in one last group SMAAAASH led by Deku himself. A sort of United World of Smash!
Besides, Batman is quirkless and he's one of the best superheroes out there. Why can't Deku be the same?
I’m glad that AFO is back. You can see Erie’s quirk in action on AFOs body inside of the vestige world.
SHIGARAKI REBUILDING HIMSELF WITH HIS GIFT OF REBUILDING, OR HE WILL COME BACK, TAKE CONTROL AND DEFEAT AFO, OR HE WILL END UP DYING, WHAT A CONDEMNATION AND A TERRIBLE EXECUTION, WHY?, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL HEROES
or he rebuild deku arms
The rebuild thing could have some interesting themes to it, growing past what he was made to be. I still hope he either dies or gets reverted to a child rather than a full redemption though.
Deku will die become a vestige. Tenko will take over Dekus body and live on to be the “greatest” hero.
AFO straight up says she’s too old to groom 💀💀 bruh
Loving how I imagine their convo went 😂 "Hey bro.. don't you think condoms kinda suck? Wouldn't it be great to just try it one more time without"
The last chapter and this chapter reminded us that AFO has always been the main antagonist of My Hero Academia!!
One of my worries was that AFO would become less involved in the story in favor of Shigaraki, when AFO is the one behind the scenes, always causing so much trouble. So to return the focus on him being the main big bad, it's relieving to see.
Most passionate you've been in a while 😂😂😂😂 this rant was awesome
All for one not taking Overhaul isn't really a plot hole its more All for ones character flaw. He didn't bother to take it because it presumably requiers a lot of training and that is somthing he won't do with his quirks because he is the demon lord and the demon lord doesent train. He even said so about Shigaraki witch basically meant himself because he is going to take over anyway. Without training Overhaul is just another insta kill quirk witch is more of a detriment for All for one because as far as we know people need to be alive for him to steal their quirks. He probably could use it but its pretty redundant since he already used it on Tenko. Hell maybe this is just one of those moments where All for one just decided not to use that quirk just cause.
Also in the oficial translations its reveald that All for one fueld Kotaros haterd and made him stricter and more abusive. It really was all because of him.
never a day that I don’t look forwards too your recaps man
It seems like all for one still has the other quirks from one for all since in the chapter you see his danger sense go off when sero jumps in
Danger Sense was stolen by Shigaraki before, and that's why that quirk is still intact.
That's right unlike the other quirks that's violently transfer thus destroyed, danger sense was stolen not transferred like the others.
Idk if anybody noticed but Deku still hasnt reached 100% of One for All.
Also, imagine Eri shows up and rewinds The Shig back to Tenko, before the decay, and to where he had his original quirk, making him grow up and start a new life
people dont understand that deku still have ofa
My boy still got his 100% shot-style
hes been using 100% for awhile, what? did people think hes been using 45% with overlay lol? also he still has OFA
@@igniteddoesstuff5149 my boy deku has not even used 100% yet idk why people think that lol
@CosmicSaiyan613 His hair and eyes glow and get spiky when he uses 100% not when he stacks 45% with Fa Jin (The Lady Nagant fight shows this) also the second user straight up says he's using 120% of One For All, he surpassed 100%
I might be wrong, but I think there will be like a way out of it since we know that in the beginning Izuku was telling his story of how he became No.1 hero, but we don't know how his future self looks. So I think we will get to see something maybeEri could help him.
If Aizawa has two eyes and a leg which are NOT prosthetics, one would assume that Eri may still play a role. If not, he's basically become Michael Ironsides character from Starship Troopers.
Never forget that Tenko's sister was too old for AFO 💀
Too old to manipulate
@@cursedspirit9 Too old to groom 💀
Shigaraki isn’t completely gone. AFO said there’s still an echo left. Also this is the moment Deku will finally surpass Mirko (in lost limbs).
NEXT CHAPTER ZORO HIS FATHER WOULD COME WITH HIS CREW
Zoro only cuts bl@ck
😭🤣😭🤣🤣😭🤣
You forget that AFO doesn't like to take quirks that are hard to use and control. Overhaul's Gramps stated that his quirk was a mutations like Eri's and so because of that he wanted him to help her understand her quirk (but we all know what actually happened). But what I'm getting at is that Overhaul had to use his quirk in a way to where AFO wouldn't have wanted to learn all that cause he's lazy when it comes to quirks.
i kinda agree with you. but, decay being a MODIFIED VERSION of overhaul literally explains the AFO character's flaw. just look how flexible tomura use that quirk and don't even require training. it would be better if AFO just took Overhaul's full power and modified it.
@@strangeman876 You're forgetting that Shiggy grew up with that quirk so of course he's able to use it flawlessly. AFO is definitely lazy but he was able to use the quirk in that last chapters cause he took over shiggys body and their minds fused so however Shiggy used it AFO instantly knew how to do it.
And yes it being a remodified version of Overhauls quirk is crazy and he should have used that one quirk. But again it probably needed some special way to use it that he wasn't invested in doing. Overhaul grew up with his quirk also so he was able to use it flawlessly.
I would have loved to see the quirk used in it's natural state but AFO playln was to make Shiggy the catalyst for destruction. So how much pain can you cause a kid oh I know make him kill his own family.
So with that being said if he activated the original quirk and instead of killing them he learned he could put stuff together and then learned he could dismantle it. The AFO plan for Shiggy being the Vessel of Hatred just went down the drain and then he would have created one if not the strongest hero in the japanese world. So why risk that and just let him find out about his quirk by killing everyone leading him on a pathway of hell .... Yea that sounds way more like a AFO plan to me.
@@lunarneos Im thinking that way since i watched the scene where little tomura accidentally killed his own family with his quirk without learning how to trigger the quirk. sure he doesn't have full control of his quirk at that point and that's the only thing he have to learn. i think i've missed some details but i think Overhaul's quirk is still too useful for AFO to ignore it. it can manipulate matters, recode genetic, and make anything renewable using that quirk and probably useful for Daruma experiments.
@@strangeman876 I see what you're saying but you also forget emotions can dictate a quirk so me watching that scene I remember Tomura was a crying boy and hurt from getting that whooping so in his head he wanted to kill his father but his emotions lashed out through his quirk.
We know AFO is basically emotionless until it comes to the Second user and then we find out why later , but also thinking about Overhaul in the situation. It's the same thing. Overhaul had all that pint up anger and resentment. So it makes sense on how the two used the quirk and why AFO didn't use it.
But you're right why not keep that quirk for himself it's too broken.
That's why in my head it makes sense on how it's used for AFO not to be able to use it cause of it's activation and why he gave it to Tomura and why he wanted him to be the vessel to take OFA. And in the same sense, we know Overhaul was in the same orphanage tha dabi was in and they were candidates for AFO to eventually take over. But he ultimately decided on taking Tomura instead.
And with that being said we know doc changed something about all those kids at the orphanage either they were eventually Nomu test subjects like Dabi or quirks got token and reformed and mutated like Overhaul. It just makes more sense with the lore that we have of the series on why things played out the way they played out.
@@lunarneos i got it. i think AFO only cares for his plan at this point. he indeed wanted to play Tomura's psychological mind to make him a powerful villain with sheer hatred. since AFO only likes chaos and destruction, i think that's why he don't care about reassembling part of Overhaul. it makes sense why he chooses Tomura as his successor maybe because he is the easiest one to be played psychologically. Overhaul is extremely loyal but i think why AFO didn't choose him probably because he is too stubborn, as we see what he did to his boss.
Dam shigaraki was doing the Zoro for a good part of this chapter bro was huffing non stop Zoro better lend that man his inhaler 😭
Having Kurogiri could also mean that they can bring Eri in.
Honestly I want to know some peoples opinions. If Deku doesn't get his arms back would it make sense. A thread through this series is that Deku has been destroying his arms and losing the ability to use them, this has gone nowhere since the forest training arc, if Deku permanently lost his arms it would follow through with that idea
+Deku's fighting style is shoot style so he wouldn't be unable to fight
Deku should still have the one for all. The first user told him that even if all the vestiges go, he’ll still have the stock piling ability of one for all which is the main quirk itself so he’ll just have the same power set as all might
I think maybe why AFO / Ujiko didn’t take the base overhaul quirk is that it’s too volatile / difficult for a person to handle without being born with it or having it their whole life. With just the deconstruction half, Shigaraki accidentally destroyed his entire house. So it’s more likely to have drawbacks with non-natural users
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So good to see Aizawa back. Hopefully Shirakumo is fully back too
Overhaul is literally the best quirk maybe not in power like OFA but it is the most useful. It is solid in combat but can also heal perfectly.
Fully cooked theory. Keep in mind two things: OFA accumulates power in it's users over time and that power lingers after transferring the quirk. The raw stored power that OFA has always given Deku may be lingering even now, and it may not be a quirk, but like AM's muscle form, Deku has his own unique use of the power; his full cowling. Even without his arms, he could still use shoot-style, or even better, generate some energy arms with his cowling. This would give him the power to fully realize AM's legacy and stand as the quirkless hero against the evil user of all quirks. Seems too poetic to not be a likelihood.
Second part of theory is that there is no rewind, or undo, and Deku lives with his sacrifice. Imagine he gets fully functional robot arms from the support mechanic and it's all hidden beneath Deku's unexplainably long gloves. This would make Endeavor's vision still accurate, we only see Deku's gloved arms. He's already trained his legs, and learned to fire projectiles with his hands that could now be more Genos-style robotic hands. His arms have been useless to him most the series, like the writer was saying he is not the punch-prodigy, and he could never find a solution to his punching problem with a support item because he wasn't a muscle-formed AM clone. This change could really solidify Deku as his own hero, the cry-baby cyborg. All his statistical analysis built into his arm-tech with hologram displays. I have cooked this so long I'm going to be upset if it's not how it plays out.
endeavour's vision is already inaccurate becos deku's cape is gone
I was hoping that Eri's quirk would serve a larger purpose to the story. Ever since Season 4 and Eri's quirk was revealed to be 'Rewind', it immediately got me thinking that AFO would see her power as a way to return his body back to its original state before his first fight with Almight. But it never came to be, which is surprising since it truly felt like Eri was being set up for something else down the line. It feels like a missed opportunity.
I think the allmight afo fight happened after overhall was A baby. Technically it was only 6 years before Deku took over. So if overhall was 28 that means over 20 years had psssed since the had overhall in “processing”
Remember guy Ayoma was given a quirk so there's some man or women fighting inside him not allowing him to use his quirk to it's max, cuz current story says that's how it works. His quirk is rebelling.
Well Deku still has a body that is apparently not normal anymore. They stopped making the recoil a threat and used that as a the reasoning+ he developed shoot style. An ember is probably enough for some bullshit
Is it just me or is All for Ones plan just way too overly thought and convoluted
AFO didn’t make his dad abuse him, he didn’t make his family stand and watch, he didn’t make the people on the street ignore Tenko.
They all chose to do those things, just like Tenko chose to kill his father, he at first chose to hold back on those thugs that harassed him, and he chose to view the LOV as teammates and people that need a hero of their own.
This does not ruin his character.
It’s gonna make his getback on AFO even more better.
Anyone else else finding the end of MHA incredibly boring?
Let it cook
It's been boring for more than a year now
Mhs reached peak when deku first arrived to fight shigaraki when bakugo was injured but after that this series has been so mid I am just watching now so I am complete it and get over it
YES!
Hey everybody, not that you care, but I believe that "HATE" and "EVILNESS" are two completely separate things and I also believe that it is completely believable that all for one is just an evil psycho and does not have enough hate thus had to use Shig.
It actually makes a lot of sense in hindsight that decay came from overhaul not only because they're similar quirks but because Shigaraki and Chisaki both scratch and get rashy when they're stressed. Also, Deku should have a vestige in afo now right??
No because he’s quirkless, also seemingly all the vestiges and the quirk itself is gone besides AFO using danger sense because it was taken separately and not used to attack Shigaraki’s core
I was asking because all might had a vestige and he was quirkless. And I knew ofa was gone but afo is not so I assumed all the vestiges from stolen quirks would still be there at least. I'm probably missing things because these kinda videos are the only way I keep up with the manga lol
reminds me of a video I saw... "Why Naruto VS Goku with No Limbs, Blindfolded, Sick/Tired is NOT Close"
Well, one of my thoughts is maybe we will find out what Tenko’s original cork power was and maybe it’s a form of restoration or rewind or recover ability
Like when he refuses to take best jeanist quirk he may have left overhauls quirk alone because it is to complicated for him to use he has a tone of quirks but none are overly complicated
The whole story starts out with Deku saying this is how I became the number 1 hero. If he becomes the number 1 hero without a quirk that would be crazy af so yeah he’s probably not going to lose his quirk atleast not for long if at all.
Does anyone else remember then takking about ofa snd saying all might made the quirk his own thats why he has a vestige even still alive? And how being quirkless is how you can access the entirety of ofa and thats why deku unlocked its ultimate potential? I might be wrong but ima say he probably still has the quirk and at worse just lost the vestiges quirks
my take on AFO not taking Overhaul's quirk is because he wanted to change body straight up, so he didn't need to remake his own. He was already at the end of his years, and shigaraki's body already had both decay (stronger than overhaul's) and an insane regeneration (also stronger than overhaul's by a LOT) so he didn't really care, since he was 100% sure he could swap bodies in the end.
Also just that the decay quirk itself was literally the perfect tool to instill the hatred needed in shigaraki, since that’s the whole reason he needed a vessel in the first place. I don’t understand how this is a plot hole. Having a successful Shigaraki as a vessel is a way better tool to AFO then the overhaul quirk. Plus once he theoretically completed his plan he could always just go find overhaul if he needed the quirk.
the series took a nose dive when bakugo came back
Bakugo and all might should have died imo
I'm so tired of this fight at this point
didnt AFO say he doesnt like to use complex quirks back when he didnt take Jeanists. maybe overhaul was too hard for him to use, so he passed on it.
Yoooooooooooo! Always enjoy your videos my guy.
Bro i cant contain this hype im feeling rn yo i need the new chapter ASAP i dont care if they spoilers i jus NEED IT!!😝👏🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💯
Shigaraki is 100% coming back and 100% going to rebel against AFO, helping the heroes finish him off once and for all. This is not a main antagonist death lol. Deku would have done all of this for nothing, which while it could be an admittedly interesting direction, is not the kind of bleakness that a Shonen would go for nor do they have the space to properly explore such a concept.
Though AFO just feels like a cop out. I would have just preferred Shigaraki breaking free from AFO metaphorically after a long battle with Deku through both of their memories, without literally bringing him back so he can fight him. It’s also just a little bit cheapening to Bakugo’s whole uncontested victory thing, but I’m pretty sure he’ll be back to help in this final fight.
How did you accurately guess what was going to happen in Chapter 423?
I just thought about it the other half of that quirk is Eri’s isn’t it her power is the opposite of Shigg’s and their hair color is the same I think in the anime before Sigh’s awakening . It’s just a theory.
I'd love it if deku used all mights vestige and arms just popped back into existence for the fight then went back to armless after just like all might stomach wound does when he transforms
Don't forget about the random door in the chair room
Eri boutta rewind overhauls arms back so he can heal deku. Which is crazy to think about, eri helping POS Overhaul out of all people.
I have an idea to how deku couldnt get OFA by rewind.... maybe because it wasn't his quirk and ofa said something about his brother being gone.
Although i don't really see why that should matter. I think eri can
Bakugo: finally the time comes for me to be the mc😁
It is stated multiple times that AFO doesn’t steal highly technical quirks. Overhauls quirk is one of the most technical. Totally makes sense he wouldn’t steal it if best Jeanist was too technical for him.
I forgot about this reason too, I was thinking another reason he didn’t steal it was because there was generally no need for him.
Decay(a modified stronger half of disassemble)
And hyper regeneration(a stronger and faster more efficient reconstruction) pretty much make overhaul have no purpose for afo himself
That is a bunch of bs the author made up to avoid having the villain be competent. Is wetid seeing so many fanboys not being able to think logically
If distance is a problem, a cloud/ warp gate could bring Izuku to Recovery Girl and Eri to be healed.
Remember how shigaraki didn’t want to have AFO taking over his plan to break everything? How AFO got overwhelmed? That’s how AFO Resurfaced.
This is gonna last longer than ww2 at this point.
Finally, we have direct confirmation that Decay is a discount inferior Overhaul.
AFO just expelled Yoichi and Tenko. Calling it, their vestiges went to Deku. They’re not “gone”. Somehow Deku ends up with super regeneration and becomes the 11th user of OFA as the other vestiges and quirks return.
Don’t think they’ll do the Eri thing again. That trope has been done.
I guess my question is if any of the OFA vestiges wanted to ever take over izukus body could they have? Nobody AFO stole quirks from was ever strong enough to fight back in the vestige world?
I really hope the AFO quirk is given to Izuku. It would allow his arms to regenerate and he is the only one with a strong enough will to keep afo in check
Bruh we all know Eri will rewind him and everything will be fine again
There's a theory going around that Shigi's original quirk was a version of his grandmother's air walk. I think it might be true.
Maybe naval laser is Tenko's quirk and transferring that quirk would bring back Tenko.
i think izuku will only have the strength of the OFA quirk just like all might and all the other quirks like dangersense and blackwhip are lost.
thus enabling transfer of OFA to future generations since it is sort of now empty and can accomodate many more quirks before becomming uncontainable by a human just like it was before
I believe their will will go back to Deku with the quirk factor making him the greatest HERO ever
I have a theory that the reason allmights vestige never faded was because deku is actually his son and all might passed down a new quirk to deku which is the essence of one for all into a whole new quirk. Plus all the other vestiges were destroyed but allmights vestige was never transferred to shigi
Deku: im lost arm
Rest anime characters who lost arm: welcome to club bro
When in doubt pull that talk no jutsu out
As smart as izuku is I definitely thought he was gonna grab the wrist not the hands directly
I feel like the copy that was made into decay the reconstruction part was mixed with other various quirks to get the regeneration quirk
I guess to explain the plot-hole is that he needed someone with hatred and that meant sacrificing utility for rage
Crazy theory:
Monoma could find Overhaul, copy his quirk, go through the portal to the battle field, then reconstruct Izukus arms.
Great chapter
Idk I feel like this is what should have happened.. AFO stated once before that every thing he does is for HIS SAKE
Eri is going to play a major role in upcoming chapters I guess 😊
I must say I am disappointed with how Shigaraki's story played out. I wanted him to be truly free of All For One so he could become his own villain. What a waste.
Many of us wanted that I agree but i wouldn’t call it a waste. especially since narratively most things revolve around the two and since tenko isn’t dead just silenced for now most likely
What was that motorcycle flash at 14:30??
Yeah you said it their going to use the broken decay quirk and with one for all embers and stars and stripes and make him a new quirk, or eri reminds his arms but his quirk comes back too