Air Conditioning Install for Van Life Part 2 - Cruise N Comfort 12v A/C - Ducting and Wiring
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2020
- This would of been much easier to install when I built my van but I didn't have it in my budget. Now that it's in I'm extremely happy with how it turned out.
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Looks great. Nice work with the retrofit
I like watching it because I want to see more urban camping. If a single person can survive in a van for the summer that would be amazing.
I've urban camped 2 summers in Los Angeles without AC. It wasn't easy but possible. This will make it so much easier
Another valuable video. Brilliant. Thanks
Just finished installing senl-09DC mini split , sprinter 144 , 200 amphr battery , 3000watt inverter . 850 watts startup down to as low as 37watts after temp is reached . Removed pump and put under bed , condenser is undermount . Spare tire moved to back door next to bike rack total cost $900. Super quiet !
Kelly- did you buy the product he is talking about, or something else?
Another good video, VanLifeRocks
Found this video after seeing your livestream today. Kool stuff.
Thanks! And thank you for watching the live
Nice install 👍
I am planning my van build and and weighing the advantages of the split system here or the roof mount. If the split system, I would use 1/4" or 3/8" closed cell foam sheets to make a duct to move air to the front and back of the van's interior. This means cutting a strip that is 16" wide, and as long as the longest run of duct , then glue (or tape) the edges along the long edge to make a tube. The 16" wide strip would make a rectangle-oval tube that has a cross sectional surface area that is at or slightly above the cross sectional surface area of the 4" round duct required by the unit. This would give me a "pipe" that is flexible along its width as well as length to work through walls or ceilings. Being insulated by its own structure, it would prevent sweating.
On a related topic: I plan to have the cabinets installed for easy removal to provide for easy removal, and have angled panels (where the ceiling and walls meet) that are installed for easy removal, as I plan to have the area behind this panel to be the run for various pipes, electrical lines, and ducts. All this to facilitate repair, maintenance, or upgrades that are likely inevitable.
Gotta' give ya' credit Jarrod, I'd rather sell the van and build another than do a retro-fit ducted A/C. You should increase your ask for all the love, sweat, and tears you've put in GHOST. A nickel for every cuss word uttered in the process sounds about right.
What kind of electrical do you have on your van to run the AC?
If building a new build can you mount the inside component to the roof in front of the rear doors? Kind of like the engine systems are mounted in the back of some short buses.
Thank you for this!
Another consideration is if you drive this in cold climates where road treatments are used it will shorten the life of the under mount condenser. HVAC guys who work on RVs and semi trucks that use these systems recomment completely enclosing the condenser in the winter to prevent this as it's an expensive repair.
Our condensers are automotive grade condensers and fans so they are normally used without the metal shroud behind a vehicle grill .... but you are right if you wrap it in the winter it will last longer.
Cruise N Comfort USA how would u wrap something like that!?
@@g2gc I would suggest a lt wt aluminum box that could be bolted in place. Another option would be a marine grade waterproof canvas rap that you could snap in place. If you're full time in it the aluminum box would present storage problems that could be resolved with the canvas cover.
John Tatman thank you. I like the marine cover idea. Could use it also when not running a/c but driving on muddy/ dirt/sandy roads. Maybe cruise N comfort can partner w a Bimini top or marine covers outfitter to make you some as an optional accessory for winterizing...positioning snaps right on your plate. Great system
Amazing!
I saw a video where a guy put the outside unit of minisplit on the top of outside of the back door. With some kind of box to hold it. Probably safer there. He put the inside unit right in front of it, on the inside of door.
I know this old but have you heard of the dc micro a/c it almost looks like a window ac but I think you use ducts
Hey Jerrod, wondering if spray foam insulation would insulate your AC duct and protect it from sweating.
In theory I guess it would of. Why I don't like spray insulation in a van is because rodents actually feed off it so I didn't want it to become a feeding ground for then if there was any way for them to get in. It's doubtful they would but didn't even want to take that chance. Also hard to control that spray from a can so I took the easiest, most effective way with how I did it
www.lowes.com/pd/IMPERIAL-4-in-x-300-in-Insulated-Polyester-Flexible-Duct/50401790 or www.defender.com/product.jsp?name=trident-481-polyduct-blower-hose&path=-1|6880|2243576&id=4491514
Sharp video both in content and clarity. What did you record it with?
Thank you. Sony a6400 and GoPro hero 8
How much is the unit?
Wiring should be run in enclosures or pipe, you think because it's 12 volt it's safe. Yes safe from electrocution, but the danger here is not electrocution IT IS FIRE. Any damage physical or by heat from some other source which damages the wiring can cause fires. A sharp metal object which damages both conductors run closely together or the positive shorted to the van ground may cause a high resistance short which at high current capacity can cause a lot of heat (red hot heat) you can have a fire in seconds. Just take a look on coparts web site of all the Rv's that have burned because of bad electrical issues. Protect those wires, also the same with the ones under the Van that you have now mounted sharp metal nearby. Electrical wiring is made insulated to protect them from each other in a enclosure. Very few types are manufactured to be run in open air subject to physical damage. Retired Electrician
I guess that's why we use marine double wire. The wire used is designed to take a massive beating. It's possible for someone to easily make this mistake but I assure you I didn't miss this step
Great as always! Marc is definitely getting used to being on video lol What was the btu on that unite?
They say between 5000-7000btu. With the double fan I think this unit is closer to 7000
@@JarrodTocci HD-12s is 5k and HD-12L is 8k and HD-24L is 10k
Is noise from the compressor just under your pillow an issue?
I don't feel that it is but I could see some being annoyed by it
jarrod is great but the real problem at the core of this build was that the wall panels are not easily removeable. Start your build with that in mind and problems later are MUCH MUCH easier to fix.
Or build it right so you don’t have problems 😆 however what you don’t know is in the vans I did I ran most wires and plumbing inside cabinets therefore making any “mistakes” easier to fix. Only thing behind walls are insulation and some wires running up to ceiling.
i wonder if you could hook up a simarine pico to the cruise n comfort...
i mean the nest thermostate system. these beers are killin me
@@scrumtios0 we are working on a interface cable . The problem with the Nest or Ecobee is they like 24 volt ac ... they do not like DC... they get weird and freak out. you would need a 12 volt DC to 24 volt AC inverter and 24 volt AC relays ( there is a RV video on it somewhere. I have only found 1 company that sells this and its over $100. You would lose the multispeed blower function.
Has anyone used white house in-line vacuum tubing for ducting? Diameter is so much smaller for tight spaces.
Needs to be 3-4” I believe in diameter
Checked the price on that thing - "on sale" for $4800 - super expensive.
The base HD-12L is currently on sale for $4295.00. We have lesser price units but they dont have the energy saving features and technology that the HD series has. The HD series has power saving technology that slows the compressor when the evaporator cools down either from the environment temperature getting colder or from lower blower speed. This eliminates the cost of buying more lithium/ solar to run less efficient more power hungry 110 volt systems or so called 12 volt systems that have secret internal inverters. Our system is truly 12 volt and utilizes rare earth magnet compressors. We actually hand build every unit to order right here in Phoenix, Arizona and test the units 3 times before they ship...we call it small batch ac. We could have it manufactured with less expensive components, but I believe that would sacrifice the quality of the unit-and we couldn’t say they are #builtnotbought. Our systems are not disposable either. If you have any issues past the warranty period, and the unit is currently in production, call us and we may be able to diagnose the unit over the phone (via phone support from Phoenix- not overseas 😁) If we can't diagnose it, box it up and send it back and we will evaluate the product at no charge to you (other than shipping) and give you a fair price to fix it. I believe items should be able to be fixed and not thrown away. I don’t usually have time to read comments, so email or message me on the site and I will explain more of our secret sauce and the magic pixie dust that powers our units! ❄️❄️❄️❄️
One lesson I learn in life, don't install lesser products I'm hard to reach areas
Ouch $4800 ?
@Chris depends on ur roof set up n keeping the van stealth the less to be seen on the roof the better
@Chris tel that to a non-stealth van builder lol
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The video was great. Might want to turn the music down a little.
This guy doesn’t party
Fair. Music only in the first 2 minutes and last 2 minutes of a 33 minute video
Yeah I'm a brother but I've a instrument fitter/ fabricator for over 24 years now
I’m kind of wondering if all the effort you’re putting into installing this AC and I don’t even know the cost of the unit itself, if you think it’s worth the cost time and energy?
I did know the cost and I think I talked about it very little. I should of talked about it more but the problem once I say $4500 people get really scared. Cooling down a space with battery power is going to cost some money. The other good products cost around $3000 and the knock offs will be around $1300, but then people get them and they don't work nearly as well and I always hear "I wish I spent the extra money for the nicer ones."
Jarrod Tocci - GHOST just getting all top of the line Diamond type components really boosts price. I want to do this lifestyle but, my whole point is to cut cost of living. I would need to take out a loan to buy new van and get all top of the line components. Trying to find happy medium. Love your Videos, but maybe some are meant for a different audience.
A.k.a. = Wealthy people looking to move their ‘Living at home (Still) Kids, into a vehicle, hoping they find their way. ;-)
That is not me. I want to try the nomad lifestyle in an beautiful and comfortable living (that I can Create mostly on my own {except for getting help with electrical and plumbing} that won’t break me, while I try a new way of making $.
And I get it, you have created a brand that is very popular! Bravo 👏.
Love your easy going nature !
Your channel is one of my Fav’s to watch.
I’ll need to find a different way, that’s all.
Many would be too fearful to even attempt what your doing ! So Bravo 👏
@@stephaniemcgreevy4114 it all depends. My first van I built for $12k but didn't have a good heater or any a/c. I do try and give all the necessary information. After living in 2 vans, 1 being lower end and other very high end, I like the fancy stuff myself. For someone full time living and looking to lower living cost I'd say a happy medium. I recently did a budget for my next van and my estimate came out to roughly $18k (no a/c). The price will double if you hire someone to build it.
Jarrod Tocci - GHOST , Right now I’m in the Denver area and just buy a happy accident I ran into somebody at a lumberyard who is loading lumber on his vehicle then I went and asked him what are you gonna do with that and he said Build cabinetry and I said I want to build cabinetry but in a van and he laughed and said I’m building cabinetry in a van for a customer. He very kindly sent me his material list but after I started going through it, I thought I can’t afford what he’s using. He did tell me if I needed any help or questions should be more than happy to help me as a do it yourself to. And he did tell me that he was selling the van for $150,000 to a customer that’s already hired him to build it. You don’t seem very keen on Ford transit but I’m thinking about buying a 2019 350 extended wheelbase extra long and they were about 14 feet long. I thought about Mercedes but I’m hoping that in a year I’ll have gotten all the kinks out of living in a van and I can head to South America. And I’m choosing a gasoline engine just because a diesel engine would become greatly expensive to work on and possibly have problems finding parts somewhere other than in America. I want to feel more free to travel and explore more.
Did You get a puppy ? I have a very busy Full-time job ( hoping to leave in next few months) and just haven’t seen any new videos about a new pup ! You definitely seem like a dog person.
I commend you for learning and figuring out how to put this together. But I want to be a full time Van Lifer’ and the cost of the unit itself is way too much ! I was hopeful until I saw the price. Need to find a better solution, might be less expensive to just buy another Lithium Battery and have rooftop unit. Seems it would be less than half the cost.
I really hope you get a good price for your van when it sells.
Unfortunately getting a good 12v A/C unit will be a higher price tag. The roof top ones cost a little over $3000. Please don't consider the Fresair!
Jarrod Tocci - GHOST Damn Really ?
I’ve been doing my best to learn about all the different components that would go into a van build, to make it comfortable and I was kind a hoping to stay under 12 to 15,000 and that’s with me doing a lot of the work myself.
I would just need help having somebody double check my work with electrical and plumbing but I’m confident in building cabinets
Great upgrade for your Van!
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maybe say what the thing is by looking at the instructions and what they call it
I would have just said screw it and taken out the night stand cubby 😂
Funny thing is I started to and realized I put it in there so well that it would of been a bigger pain to do that 😂
You could have got 4" square duct work
4k for the air conditioner...
For 12v that’s on par. Check out all the 12v with this amount of btu and you’ll see
just insulate whole cavity / drill holes and put in spray foam
Add a low voltage autostart to your van that kicks on at a certain voltage to charge the house bank.
Have any brand suggestions? Voltastart is ridiculous expensive
@@jamieharrington9037 Viper, I believe, has a remote starter with the low voltage "auto start" feature.
Don't put too much money into it you might not get it back
Fuck this system, 5 grand is ridiculous for that. Just get an inverter and a split system for $700.
Looks like a mechanical nightmare.people keep it simple.
Jesus 4.5k us dollar for an ac unit??, just create a window braket and install 15k window ac just 500$ , cheap and easy to install
Un realistic price for an ac unit
Ghost
Take the wall down
Less talk, more time laps of the actual process....
Can't make everyone happy. Keep in mind that I get emails and comments asking for less time lapse and more explaining, sooooo........
This is the stupid Ac system! Just get the roof AC unit and save you a lots of work, money and trouble.
Most roof systems you'll need to plug in. The ones that are 12v pump out the same BTU. Also keep in mind with going with a roof mount will take up any room on the roof for solar panels, racks, vents, or anything you'll need on the roof. Don't put something down until you know more
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What's sad is you first trolled me in a personal email and now are trying to troll on my comments 🤣