My favorite as well. It could have been toned down a bit like the Polish Woodland Camo, but definitely the best. The DOD ought to just forget trying to find one camo pattern for everything (ugly Universal). The new OCP Scorpion is a step in the right direction. I prefer the Tropical Multi Cam which is darker/greener. The only digital patterns that are decent are the Canadian (Cadpat) and the Italian Vegitato. The Coast Guard even has some units/teams wearing the new NWU 3, and OCP... I did see a joke creation of a Space Force camo pattern that had stars and galaxies - which actually looks kinda cool. Space Force is in the OCP for the present time
I like the newest army uniform the best, and despite its stupidity I thought the UCP had cool factor when wearing full gear in the pattern… the woodland BDU not so much. It just seems so basic and dated and everyone had them… that said I can tell you that as a child I would’ve wholeheartedly agreed with you. What an iconic piece of military history it is
When it got wet, it stayed wet (pray that it was not cold outside). In the summer it retained heat. But you are right; it did look cool (I guess). (U.S. Army, 1982-86).
They're my favorite uniform pattern. I know its shit for hiding but it looks cool sad since im NJROTC and Navy JROTC doesn't get BDU's like army, airforce and marines >:(
Also they replace them with the type 3, since the type 1 blueberries blended in the water too well. Imagine if you fell overboard, nobody is going to find you.
Daft Sailor Before the Blueberries, most people on ship (and many still) in both the US Navy and Coast Guard wear solid navy blue coveralls. I was a rescue swimmer, the Blueberries actually show up BETTER than the Navy blue coveralls, believe it or not!
Even though his face was not shown - the name and voice was recognized immediately. Served with the moderator LTC Gurski many moons ago! Good to see that he is proving true to the adage that - "Old soldiers never die ....". From one - (tad younger) - old soldier to the next! LTC(Rtd) Panton.
I get what some of you are saying and I have to agree. It was nice to go from one base to another if say you went to jump school and be able to go into clothing sales and pick up this or that and have the things your service required put on it. Simple. I was a Navy Corpsman (FMF) and it was really nice to go to an Air Force or Army base and get the 50/50 BDU's to wear in the winter because they were thicker and warmer. The Marines had the "rip stops" also called the "rip starts" almost exclusively where I was. Preference aside though, I think the MARPAT and the New Navy cammo uniforms actually give better concealment and blend in better than the Multicam or OCP's. There is too much white in the latter two. That said, there needs to be more uniformity with uniforms.
11:28 - The woodland pattern Battle Dress Uniform is still available for sale from the original manufacturers. It has no zippers or Velcro, only buttons; so a lot of people prefer it to the current Army Combat Uniform for durability and noise. In my PLC pool we used it as our utility uniform.
Propper and Tru-Spec still make them; not sure about American Apparel. On the old ones, there's usually a tag stitched into the pants with the manufacturer's name. Army surplus stores are finding the real deal somewhere.
Random point: Australia used ERDL camo during the late years of the Vietnam war and US type woodland in ADF format is currently in use as OPFOR camo during training
We were issued the jungle Commies with the straight style pockets on the blouse. A couple of guys that I remember were issued the cammie blouses with the slanted pockets. This was in 1982.
In the 1980's there were complaints at Fort Bragg that new Woodland BDU looked like a rag bag and you were not allowed to starch them. They were also too thick for a hot climate. Until the lightweight model came out we were authorized to wear and starch jungle fatigues in OD Green. It seems they had a large stock of them somewhere and we could buy up to four sets at Vietnam era prices (I believe $10 got you pants and shirt. ) After i got my 4 sets and returned to NJ I had VN vets offer me good money to get original issue.
Doug Rambo I’m ex Australian army I have to agree we have many patterns but I have used a green drab it was very effective Israelies still use a karke green and highly effective
I miss my blueberries everyday. Type I's are bulky. We never wore them at sea so the overboard thing is irrelevant and because it was designed to be a combination of ship's paint colors it was a great working uniform. You get paint on it and it wasn't very noticeable.
I am a marine, served from 1977 to 1983, boot camp was issued two sets of green sateen uniform each with a santeen cover, was also issued two sets of camouflage uniforms again each with a camouflage cover. That camouflage uniform was showed on the table, it had the angled chest pockets x2, and two lower lower bellows pockets on the blouse. The pants included belt looos but also waist adustable straps, zippered fly, two front slash pockets two rear pockets with button flap, and two thigh pockets bellows type with tri fold design. The color was green mostly, light and dark with a little black. Loved that uniform. When woodland pattern BDU's started ti be issued in 1980, i hated them. I went ti clothing store and bought 6 sets of the green tri fold pants and three blouses, all they had in my size. Still have two complete sets. I also was able to wear a solid green unform, jungle cut with angeled and tri fold thigh pockets. This uniform had been issued to my father in 1966-67 while in Vietnam. Thanks for the video
Yeah, but that's really hard to find. He's also missing the t-pattern marine BDU's, and also the early desert marpat and the urban marpat. With the other ones I mentioned, I can understand why not since they were just tested and developed, never actually got issued.
The Blue NWUs have a much bigger problem. Their are surprisingly effective on street at night. I was nearly hit by cars a dozen times because I was effectively invisible to car drivers unless I was directly under a street lamp. Camo is not supposed to get you killed when you grab the mail after a long day, or take out the trash before the day starts.
18:30 This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of the NWU. It was never intended to be "camouflage" in the conventional sense. Rather, the pattern is intended to hide the inevitable stains and grime that come from many working rates aboard a ship while still looking somewhat presentable. The "what if you go overboard" thing is often *way* overrated and really seems more like a talking point that gets parroted than a legitimate criticism. The actual safety issue inherent to the NWUs was its construction was not remotely fire-safe and has an unfortunate tendency to literally melt into the wearer's skin when exposed to extreme heat.
It is almost as if we didn't learn any lessons from the British experience in the Falklands. Their naval uniforms were polyester (to save precious money) and the results were horrific burns when the ships got hit with exocet missiles.
@Travis Thacker the thing about cotton is that it pulls heat away from the body when wet and has a tendency to shrink. Nylon doesnt do that and is easier to produce than wool; cheaper too.
Earl Wyss sounds like a pretty cool idea, although one problem I can picture with this is Nomex can often be very expensive. Cheapest I’ve seen a pair of Nomex Fire pants and top go for was $200 a piece, with the average being $400, we’re required to have two sets as well. I certainly question if the material is really that expensive to produce as I don’t know the process I just wear it, but if that were the case I can certainly see that being an issue.
As a kid ,the SEARS catalog had the ww2 'frog pattern' duck hunter jumpsuit in kid sizes, we frequently visited the local store, begged mom for one, never got it, a classmate in kindergarten had one. As soon as Vietnam was winding down, we scoured the local 2nd hand stores for anything that Fit.....Been Collecting Camo & solid surplus patterns since, a lifelong obsession thnx for the visual historical rundown
Can’t help it but I appreciate the universal pattern uniform because I admired soldiers fighting in it in Afghanistan and seeing that uniform was cool because of it
The NWU uniform was mostly created to help disguise oil, paint, and other stains on the uniform. Stains happen quite often on the uniform during a deployment. The uniform was not good for the ship though, it wasn't flame retardant.
Eric Howe yea man type 1’s hide every single stain. I’ve noticed getting stains on my type 3s way more now. Still good at hiding it but wow the type 1s hid everything.
Actually got handed an old pair pf NWU's. Had small stains of grey paint all over from I presume the previous user, had not noticed it till 3 years after getting it.
Great presentation. Lots of interesting information and fun. I have in my collection an ERDL uniform exactly the same as the one presented, 100% cotton and exactly the same labels. Very nice pattern. For trips to the forest or fishing I use Gore-Tex Woodland camouflage, USMC version. A very universal and good thing, although it has a disadvantage - zippers crumble due to moisture. And when I go to a meeting with friends or to a rally of military enthusiasts, I wear Woodland camouflage pants. This is actually the most striking and elegant field uniform.
Great video. Although I’m not an American I also collect these camos along side some European forces ones. I missed the traditional od green worn in Vietnam. The same worn in the nice M65 field jackets. Thanks for nice “class”. A lot of history there! Thanks for your service.
We only wear the camo when we are in port, when we are out to sea we have underway uniforms. The main reason why the blueberries aren't issued anymore is they aren't fire retardant.
Very good video! The hot weather combat suit (see minute 8:30 to 9:00) was still used in the summer of 1989 by the US Army in Germany. I was in the German Army in this time and have saved such a dress (with all the patches). Only the fold in the pockets is missing.
NCW 3 Color, that's me. I mean that's not my uniform obviously but I was NCW and I had the 3 color deserts. The Shark Emblem was embroidered on the greens, a patch on the deserts. When I returned from my first deployment, my wife asked me if the guys in the blue (berries) camo were the navy's janitors, lol!
My dad was not a sea bee but he was a petty officer first class AO1. He put bombs and missiles on f14s and f18s working on the carriers. He still had a woodland camouflage uniform.
For a guy who seemingly is quite experienced, you missed a very important fact. Canada developed the digital pattern that most countries base their current uniforms on in the early 90's. The USMC wanted to purchase the same pattern and Canada said yes but not with the same color scheme so that's where MARPAT came from. To this day, CADPAT is one of, if not, the most effective woodland pattern ever devised. If you don't believe me, buy some and test it, and no it's not illegal to buy and sell it anymore, except for body armor.
My first term, '77 to '81, in the Army everyone wore the solid green fatigues. The trouser pockets were patch pockets sewn to the outside of the sides of the trousers. A design guaranteed to let anything, keys and coins, fall out. You knew it was a few days before payday because everybody would go to the rec room and search the sofa for coins to get snacks out of the vending machines. Re-enlisted in '84 and got the BDU. It had thicker cloth so was very hot in the summer, but, great in autumn and winter. So the Division Commander had the option of the older Viet-nam green utility uniform. The top had the slanted pockets. You had to buy them with your money. None were issued. Thought the BDU was better than the old green "pickle suit" anyway. Plus, you didn't lose whatever was in your pockets. Just couldn't rely on the couch for extra beer money just before payday.
I served in the USMC from '79 to '83. We were issued the ripstop woodland cammo. That's all we had, but once in awhile, we could buy the slanted pocket Vietnam era mostly green cammo, like you have there. We didn't have reinforced elbows, knees and seats, so a couple of trips to the field would make our cammies essentially unserviceable, due to rips and tears. Thanks for this video. It was good to see some of this old stuff again and the new stuff too!!
In 1978, Marine Corps bootcamp, San Diego, I was issued the one you showed previous to the woodland, only my upper pockets were slanted at about a 40 degree angle.
The blueberry in my opinion is the prettiest choice of colors ever used in a camouflage. That being said not the wisest choice of colors for people who could possibly fall overboard.
i know this is an old post, they wear coveralls underway (which are also blue so doesn't really help the stigma about WhAt If ThEy Go OvErBoArD?) You can't wear NWUs when they shift ship's colors (when you are no longer moored to the pier)
two corrections: Your first "woodland" is out of order with the "lime ERDL" Marine uniform. The pattern was the same as the Vietnam slant pocket blouse but the with a brighter green to go in jungle (Vietnam) environments. I was issued 2 ERDL and 2 Sateen in Parris Island 1977. We transitioned to BDU in 82-83. Straight pockets were cheaper to make (FAR LESS USEFUL). The second correction is why USMC went to Marpat. They were buying them from the Army, but at twice the cost of making them themselves. The decided if they were going to make their own they would design a better pattern (based on Cadpat in Canada).
Remember when the army uniform was digital green ACUs and the black beret while in garrison? And then there was always that one guy with the BDU pattern IBA.
He completely misidentified that Mitchell pattern shelter half. It's not called ERDL. ERDL is a later pattern used in development of the M81 Woodland pattern.
I am aware that it was used in Vietnam. All I stated was that he got things completely wrong, that the pattern he called ERDL is not called ERDL, it's called "Mitchell pattern".
"Mitchell pattern" is a collector term for the pattern; it's also known as "USMC standard/brown cloud" and "vine leaf" . It was developed by ERDL - Engineering Research and Development Laboratory, so is he not incorrect. The later four-color disruptive pattern, is called "ERDL", "leaf patter" or "ERDL leaf" by collectors. Which collectors further identified as "ERDL highland" and "ERDL lowland" depending on if it was the brown-dominate or green-dominate variation of the pattern. The US military didn't have specific names for these early patters, these came later from collectors.
The snow parka should have a nomenclature tag sewn to the right rear panel just below the hood. Also it should not have zippers, just snaps. I know, because I'm looking at the one the USAF issued me at Minot AFB ND in 1996. The USAF Combat Security Police were also issued the ERDL pattern uniforms, and were still wearing them until about 1988.
I finally found a US issue snow camo parka but got it too late to use in this video. Maybe ASP will do a Winter Combat Clothing Video in the future so i can display some other related Cold Weather clothing I managed to pick up in my career.
The Air Force experimented with a tiger stripe that had quite a bit of blue in it. Blue is actually better at night than black because black is too dark. It's harder to see someone moving who's wearing shades of blue than it is black at night because the human eye locks on movement, especially at night.
In 2006 during pre-deployment training for Iraq. The Army decided to issue the ACUs en mass to all soldiers even in Iraq to replace the DCUs which was better because it was cooler to wear in the summer in a desert environment. The ACUs material was crappy because they tore very quickly after being washed. The Army even mandated that the detergent used to wash the ACU was Woolite. Even the summer of 2007 in Iraq it became apparent that these thing were even hotter to wear even without body armor. The pattern was useless as a camouflage uniform in any environment. The older DCUs and Chocolate Chip were issued to the Iraqi Army and Police. If ACUs were worn out or beyond repair, soldiers were to burn them after going to company supply to order a new set. These uniforms were never ever given to any Iraqi Army or Police or civilians and treated as sensitive items. The only Iraqis who wore them were the "Terps" or interpreters who were assigned to any Army combat unit or worked in Theater Internment Facilities a.k.a POW camps.
when i enlisted in the Corps back during the early Reagan 80's in boot we were issued ERDL green leaf slanted pockets fatigues and the combat boots were the olive green canvas leather jungle boots and by 83' they began issuing BDU's which were a sad thing to wear but those are the breaks when your a grunt ( 03/11) and the all leather combat boot
The navy blue berries were not made to be worn while underway on ships. The primary uniform of the day while underway are flame retardant coveralls (FRV's) in the event of a fire these will be worn with firefighting turnout gear and if you're in the aviation community that works on the flight deck or hangar bay you would be wearing flight deck gear. Blue berries are only worn while in port ONLY. -Navy vet
Also, let's say you're working line or whatever on deck and fall over, you're wearing your jersey, cranial etc. and I think from what I've seen, you're typically wearing khakis or the dark flight deck pants. I don't think I've seen flight deck personnel wear blueberries even back then.
6:56 the white uniform is issued in Alaska we call them over whites and they aren’t really used much except for when we do jumps into dead horse durning the winter that’s about it, if you look up Alaska airborne on UA-cam you should be able too find videos of guys where the complete over whites
CAP or Civil Air Patrol which is USAF AUX and the only branch that has an AUX meaning you need a background check now and other things wears the ABUs and the Multicam
The design of the pattern that includes the navy seal stamped in all the rip stop fabric, including electronic safe chip is of Mexico Navy, to avoid the unauthorized use of the uniform.
7:35 My brother-in-law wore tiger stripes in VN. He has photos taken of him wearing them although his MOS was 11B with the 25th Inf Div at CuChi 68-69. But there's also photos of him wearing standard OD. Not sure what's the story on the tiger uniform. I know Special Forces were on Black Virgin Mountain at one time and the NVA tried to knock them off. But I'm unsure of time periods of what happened when. So tiger uniforms were in his immediate area. Sometimes I don't think he's telling the whole story of all that happened there. He sort of makes it sound like he was just a supply guy but other details slip out that indicate something different. His entire company would clean their M16s every evening and take turns cleaning the M60s. They were never ordered to clean weapons, they just did it. They were a very tight bunch and still stay in contact with periodic gatherings although fewer and fewer attend. I've always had the impression that only certain types of soldiers/pilots formed such a tight bond and supply grunts isn't one of them. But I could be mistaken. But maybe he requisitioned the tiger stripes and his NCO's and officers didn't care if he wore it. I know from my dad that in Korea some GI's preferred to be at the front to avoid spit and shine at the rear. So unauthorized "stuff" happened to equipment etc. Maybe that was the case at CuChi. The area wasn't named Iron Triangle for nothing. Sometimes he felt the NVA or VC had a personal vendetta against him as it was rare day when they weren't rocketed. They finally scored a direct hit on his hooch and blew it to pieces. Brother-in-law was not there, out on a patrol sweep IIRC.
My Dad also served in Vietnam. Their bond of Brotherhood is like NOTHING I've EVER seen in my lifetime. His hooch was also hit by a mortar round. There were 3 soldiers sleeping inside.....my Dad and his best friend survived....the 3rd man on the top bunk did not survive as the mortar came through the roof. His name was Gary L. Hein. He passed on Dec. 6, 1969...Camp Enari, Pleiku... Never forget💜🇺🇸
From what I've read, UCP was created by testing various colors under night vision and the Army chose the light, medium, and dark colors that worked best under IR and applied it to a CADPAT template. Regarding the ABUs, there were alot more problems with the ABUs than just the camo pattern. When the Air Force was first testing the ABU, they gave them to some of their spec-ops and ground types for testing and evaluation. So they wore them around doing their normal thing and then sent back their feedback to the AF brass who promptly ingnored every single recommendation/suggestion they made. One serious flaw that the ABU had was an internal map pocket sewn into both left and right sides of the blouse, the problem with this was that they were completely unaccessible when wearing body armor making them useless. To add insult to injury, it also made the uniforms much hotter, something that the Air Force quickly realized in Iraq and Afghanistan. Airmen serving in theater were reportedly quick to cut out the map pockets from the uniforms, something that was orignally not authorized by AF brass but eventually became permissilbe.
About the Blueberries, it was never meant camouflage sailors, it was meant to hide the ship on the sailor. It is the same colors as all the colors on the ships paint.
National 1 last I heard, greens are for shore side sailors, SEABEES and such, tans are for seals, blueberries are getting replaced with navy fire retardant coveralls for all shipboard sailors. I would recommend against the USMC scheme of color for seasons. Marines in AZ in greens and in NY and Pearl Harbor in deserts.
Hey y’all, AD in Japan. Yeah it’s official. They’re phasing out the blueberries, and the green ones are going to be the official uniform for ALL navy personnel. Shore commands get issued it first as organizational clothing, but it is possible to purchase at some NEX locations.
Im glad the Marines went to their own pattern. I almost lost rank on an army base because some dumb army officer kept referring to me as a soldier. I even replied the first time and informed him that we were all Marines.
most effective modern camouflages in no order: M81 Woodland, Desert marpat (also Aor1 because they are very similar), OCP (also multicam), Woodland Marpat, Aor2 (Navy gaucamole camo), Flecktarn, Tiger stripe (included for modern special force use) Atacs AU, Dyed UCP (Dyed green or other colors by owner)
My neighbor had a uncle who was a colonel serving in Vietnam. His uncle sent him a tiger stripe uniform home when he was about 12. He wore it until he outgrew it than he gave it to me and when I outgrew it I gave it to my nephew who wore it till it feel apart. Three young boys who were walking in high cotton when it was there turn to ware the uniform . We were the only one in the area that had a set of tiger stripe and we were very proud of it.
My father was a member of the Brown Water Navy on PBRs in Vietnam. One of their jobs was to insert and extract special forces units. He mentioned that he saw a lot of the woodland style camouflage among US special forces.
18:50 Why would you, as a sailor, be wearing your blue camo while on deck? You're not supposed to wear the thing on deck. There really isn't a threat of falling off your boat if you're not on deck either.
At 20:07 you can see a very distinct shape which in my opinion looks like the lower half of a gun (without that slide) except obviously in pixel form. This pattern is on every USMC uniform I've seen and many times I've been marching and have played "Find the gun" on people's uniforms. On the navy uniform it runs up and down and on the marines it runs left to right. Basically the NAVY just flipped the marpat uniform camos direction
Great video and very informative! Yes, a lot of money was made with the non-camoflage patterns and should be investigated. Thank you for the video and thank you for your service. Enjoy your retirement!
I wore the Woodland BDUs or lightweight OD green jungle fatigues serving in the 82nd Airborne 1983-90. Those were the best uniforms issued to the US Army.
Woodland BDUs made us Air Force folks that worked on concrete stand out....like trees on concrete. The later ABUs actually did make you blend with the concrete, especially with heat waves. THe 3-color desert worked quite well on concrete as well.
I like to combine camouflage to break up My pattern even more. I have a Waffen SS reversible jacket. It is very relevant in the environments that I am in
Fort Dix! My late father was US Army, Sergeant First Class at Fort Dix for 10 years of 1956 to 1966. And his brother was US Army, Colonel at same base for 22 years of 1950 to 1972
Guy does not know what he is talking about. The first cammy uniform he shows is not a Marine uniform. I was in the Corps for 20 years. We were still being issued the WW2 cammy uniforms in Recon up until Vietnam.
I do a lot of varmit calling at night and have found that the tiger strip camo blends in the best! I also have a friend that was one of the first "seals" in Viet Nam. He was a member of the UDT squad and was offered a new assignment so he took it. They all wore the tiger strips as they gather info in Laos and Cambodia. I also wear the digital desert USMC pattern in West Texas and it does a great job in blending in.
The woodland BDU was unequivocally the coolest looking uniform ever, it is timeless.
My favorite as well. It could have been toned down a bit like the Polish Woodland Camo, but definitely the best. The DOD ought to just forget trying to find one camo pattern for everything (ugly Universal). The new OCP Scorpion is a step in the right direction. I prefer the Tropical Multi Cam which is darker/greener. The only digital patterns that are decent are the Canadian (Cadpat) and the Italian Vegitato. The Coast Guard even has some units/teams wearing the new NWU 3, and OCP... I did see a joke creation of a Space Force camo pattern that had stars and galaxies - which actually looks kinda cool. Space Force is in the OCP for the present time
I like the newest army uniform the best, and despite its stupidity I thought the UCP had cool factor when wearing full gear in the pattern… the woodland BDU not so much. It just seems so basic and dated and everyone had them… that said I can tell you that as a child I would’ve wholeheartedly agreed with you. What an iconic piece of military history it is
@@baronedipiemonte3990 The Soviet KMLK Sunshine Ray/Berezka is a good digital sort of pattern.
When it got wet, it stayed wet (pray that it was not cold outside). In the summer it retained heat. But you are right; it did look cool (I guess). (U.S. Army, 1982-86).
Chocolate chip has that swagger
The Blueberries were very good at helping you hide ink stains.
That's why ODUs make that fear ever so present in my life
They're my favorite uniform pattern. I know its shit for hiding but it looks cool
sad since im NJROTC and Navy JROTC doesn't get BDU's like army, airforce and marines >:(
And the battleship gray paint! Supposedly that was a real consideration
Also they replace them with the type 3, since the type 1 blueberries blended in the water too well. Imagine if you fell overboard, nobody is going to find you.
Daft Sailor
Before the Blueberries, most people on ship (and many still) in both the US Navy and Coast Guard wear solid navy blue coveralls.
I was a rescue swimmer, the Blueberries actually show up BETTER than the Navy blue coveralls, believe it or not!
I don't see anything on that table
@Grim Reaper07 joke flew over your head
Grim Reaper07 r/wooosh
Grim Reaper07 I think you’re stupid....
Grim Reaper07 r/woooosh and you’re*
all i see is a couch
It's not the Universal Combat Pattern it's the Useless Combat Pattern
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I is going to be renamed it Urban Camo Pattern when they will be completely replace by the OCP in October 2018.
I remember when I had to wear it😂
I now have ocps
@@thememe986 me too. love the ocps
Even though his face was not shown - the name and voice was recognized immediately. Served with the moderator LTC Gurski many moons ago! Good to see that he is proving true to the adage that - "Old soldiers never die ....". From one - (tad younger) - old soldier to the next! LTC(Rtd) Panton.
Glad to hear from a former colleague
I wish the US military went back to using a single uniform pattern like during the days of tri-colors. We look like a "rainbow" military now.
Sadeth Cheng which would you prefer? I prefer the old bdu's and dcu's. I'm happy I finally got my ocp pattern acu.
Sadeth Cheng which would you prefer? I prefer the old bdu's and dcu's. I'm happy I finally got my ocp pattern acu.
I like the distinctive Corps things. it was like that when we had the herringbones
I wish the corps would go back to the Fair leather belt * sagger stick.
I get what some of you are saying and I have to agree. It was nice to go from one base to another if say you went to jump school and be able to go into clothing sales and pick up this or that and have the things your service required put on it. Simple. I was a Navy Corpsman (FMF) and it was really nice to go to an Air Force or Army base and get the 50/50 BDU's to wear in the winter because they were thicker and warmer. The Marines had the "rip stops" also called the "rip starts" almost exclusively where I was.
Preference aside though, I think the MARPAT and the New Navy cammo uniforms actually give better concealment and blend in better than the Multicam or OCP's. There is too much white in the latter two.
That said, there needs to be more uniformity with uniforms.
not going to lie though MARPAT is probably one of the best camouflage patterns we've used. Only because it actually works
Multicam is fantastic too.
I think we’re at our best right now.
I have a set of commercial Mar-Pat, it's not and exact copy but very close. Works well when turkey hunting in Central NY.
11:28 - The woodland pattern Battle Dress Uniform is still available for sale from the original manufacturers. It has no zippers or Velcro, only buttons; so a lot of people prefer it to the current Army Combat Uniform for durability and noise. In my PLC pool we used it as our utility uniform.
Out of curiosity, who were the original makers that are still making them? The ones I have don't have a name listed anywhere to look up.
Propper and Tru-Spec still make them; not sure about American Apparel. On the old ones, there's usually a tag stitched into the pants with the manufacturer's name. Army surplus stores are finding the real deal somewhere.
CountArtha the air force still use no bottons . The marine don't use Velcro ethier
Should say bottons
CountArtha if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
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Random point: Australia used ERDL camo during the late years of the Vietnam war and US type woodland in ADF format is currently in use as OPFOR camo during training
Also some ACU vests are used in the RAAF
Navy should wear concrete camo to blend into the ship
Mabey the army should give them their old ucp uniforms
@MadOne Styll actually they did in the world wars to varying sucess
Yeah, they should’ve been the ones wearing UCP or ABU Tigerstripe.
@@jacobgentile3351 radar got rid of that during ww2
@@bandit5747 for the most part, but there's something just beautiful about a cruiser done up in razzle dazzle
We were issued the jungle Commies with the straight style pockets on the blouse. A couple of guys that I remember were issued the cammie blouses with the slanted pockets. This was in 1982.
In the 1980's there were complaints at Fort Bragg that new Woodland BDU looked like a rag bag and you were not allowed to starch them. They were also too thick for a hot climate. Until the lightweight model came out we were authorized to wear and starch jungle fatigues in OD Green. It seems they had a large stock of them somewhere and we could buy up to four sets at Vietnam era prices (I believe $10 got you pants and shirt. ) After i got my 4 sets and returned to NJ I had VN vets offer me good money to get original issue.
I miss the OD green.
Probably one of the most effective camouflage
Not like the ACU or UCP........
Doug Rambo I’m ex Australian army I have to agree we have many patterns but I have used a green drab it was very effective Israelies still use a karke green and highly effective
Lenard Malcolm Thanks Lenard
Yes they Use that is still cool!
I miss my blueberries everyday. Type I's are bulky. We never wore them at sea so the overboard thing is irrelevant and because it was designed to be a combination of ship's paint colors it was a great working uniform. You get paint on it and it wasn't very noticeable.
This guy is a fantastic presenter. I especially loved his offhand WAVEs crack at about 18:50
I am a marine, served from 1977 to 1983, boot camp was issued two sets of green sateen uniform each with a santeen cover, was also issued two sets of camouflage uniforms again each with a camouflage cover. That camouflage uniform was showed on the table, it had the angled chest pockets x2, and two lower lower bellows pockets on the blouse. The pants included belt looos but also waist adustable straps, zippered fly, two front slash pockets two rear pockets with button flap, and two thigh pockets bellows type with tri fold design. The color was green mostly, light and dark with a little black. Loved that uniform. When woodland pattern BDU's started ti be issued in 1980, i hated them. I went ti clothing store and bought 6 sets of the green tri fold pants and three blouses, all they had in my size. Still have two complete sets.
I also was able to wear a solid green unform, jungle cut with angeled and tri fold thigh pockets. This uniform had been issued to my father in 1966-67 while in Vietnam.
Thanks for the video
He's missing the Navy desert digital uniform. AOR 1
Yes
Od green, too
It’s basically the same as desert marpat though
Yeah, but that's really hard to find. He's also missing the t-pattern marine BDU's, and also the early desert marpat and the urban marpat. With the other ones I mentioned, I can understand why not since they were just tested and developed, never actually got issued.
I believe only NSW was issued aor1
The Blue NWUs have a much bigger problem. Their are surprisingly effective on street at night. I was nearly hit by cars a dozen times because I was effectively invisible to car drivers unless I was directly under a street lamp. Camo is not supposed to get you killed when you grab the mail after a long day, or take out the trash before the day starts.
The NWU aquaflage or blueberry would be perfect for the cops and law enforcement 👌🏻
This was actually a really great history lesson, thank you sir!
18:30
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of the NWU. It was never intended to be "camouflage" in the conventional sense. Rather, the pattern is intended to hide the inevitable stains and grime that come from many working rates aboard a ship while still looking somewhat presentable. The "what if you go overboard" thing is often *way* overrated and really seems more like a talking point that gets parroted than a legitimate criticism. The actual safety issue inherent to the NWUs was its construction was not remotely fire-safe and has an unfortunate tendency to literally melt into the wearer's skin when exposed to extreme heat.
It is almost as if we didn't learn any lessons from the British experience in the Falklands. Their naval uniforms were polyester (to save precious money) and the results were horrific burns when the ships got hit with exocet missiles.
@Travis Thacker the thing about cotton is that it pulls heat away from the body when wet and has a tendency to shrink. Nylon doesnt do that and is easier to produce than wool; cheaper too.
Why not Nomex? The pilots wear jumpsuits made from it, and civilian wild land fighters wear two piece uniforms made out of it too.
Earl Wyss sounds like a pretty cool idea, although one problem I can picture with this is Nomex can often be very expensive. Cheapest I’ve seen a pair of Nomex Fire pants and top go for was $200 a piece, with the average being $400, we’re required to have two sets as well. I certainly question if the material is really that expensive to produce as I don’t know the process I just wear it, but if that were the case I can certainly see that being an issue.
They should have stuck with coveralls or dungarees for shipboard, they were safe and comfortable.
Greetings from a British army vet. What a wonderfully informative video, I very much enjoyed it.
Jaques de Beaufort cheerio to you good lad. I appreciate you
Thanks man! Great video. Always wondered why there were so may US patterns.
Loved learning the common names used for them :D
Dad had a few sets of his issued tigerstripes. Still my favorite. And they work (new from army store) well for central north Carolina for airsoft.
As a kid ,the SEARS catalog had the ww2 'frog pattern' duck hunter jumpsuit in kid sizes, we frequently visited the local store, begged mom for one, never got it, a classmate in kindergarten had one. As soon as Vietnam was winding down, we scoured the local 2nd hand stores for anything that Fit.....Been Collecting Camo & solid surplus patterns since, a lifelong obsession thnx for the visual historical rundown
My company was the very first one to get new USMC digital camouflage uniforms in 2002!
We can make multicam fabric ,welcome to visit our UA-cam channel.
Can’t help it but I appreciate the universal pattern uniform because I admired soldiers fighting in it in Afghanistan and seeing that uniform was cool because of it
The NWU uniform was mostly created to help disguise oil, paint, and other stains on the uniform. Stains happen quite often on the uniform during a deployment. The uniform was not good for the ship though, it wasn't flame retardant.
Eric Howe yea man type 1’s hide every single stain. I’ve noticed getting stains on my type 3s way more now. Still good at hiding it but wow the type 1s hid everything.
That's what they said to sell it. I'm pretty sure they just wanted a blue version of MARPAT for the Navy since the Navy owns the USMC.
Actually got handed an old pair pf NWU's. Had small stains of grey paint all over from I presume the previous user, had not noticed it till 3 years after getting it.
Great presentation. Lots of interesting information and fun. I have in my collection an ERDL uniform exactly the same as the one presented, 100% cotton and exactly the same labels. Very nice pattern.
For trips to the forest or fishing I use Gore-Tex Woodland camouflage, USMC version. A very universal and good thing, although it has a disadvantage - zippers crumble due to moisture. And when I go to a meeting with friends or to a rally of military enthusiasts, I wear Woodland camouflage pants. This is actually the most striking and elegant field uniform.
Great video. Although I’m not an American I also collect these camos along side some European forces ones. I missed the traditional od green worn in Vietnam. The same worn in the nice M65 field jackets. Thanks for nice “class”. A lot of history there! Thanks for your service.
Man me too! I absolutely love the Vietnam era of uniform, m65 jackets look so good being worn and hold up well until this day, truly "timeless"
I still have my 1982 M65. Just bought a new one with no name tag or patches. Forgot how warm they are with the liner. They are bad ass lookin too.
There's such a nice charm to a good OD Green M65 jacket, I'll be getting one shortly when I have the money to spare.
We only wear the camo when we are in port, when we are out to sea we have underway uniforms. The main reason why the blueberries aren't issued anymore is they aren't fire retardant.
Very good video! The hot weather combat suit (see minute 8:30 to 9:00) was still used in the summer of 1989 by the US Army in Germany. I was in the German Army in this time and have saved such a dress (with all the patches). Only the fold in the pockets is missing.
Uniforms are extremely easy to buy as long as you have access to the PX.
Hoped for some ucp-delta, still nice collection though
NCW 3 Color, that's me. I mean that's not my uniform obviously but I was NCW and I had the 3 color deserts. The Shark Emblem was embroidered on the greens, a patch on the deserts. When I returned from my first deployment, my wife asked me if the guys in the blue (berries) camo were the navy's janitors, lol!
In fact, MARPAT was based on Canadian CADPAT - used with permission and with slight colour adjustments.
My dad was not a sea bee but he was a petty officer first class AO1. He put bombs and missiles on f14s and f18s working on the carriers. He still had a woodland camouflage uniform.
I did like the blue navy, grey Air Force, desert USMC, and multicam army, it was so easy to identify them
For a guy who seemingly is quite experienced, you missed a very important fact. Canada developed the digital pattern that most countries base their current uniforms on in the early 90's. The USMC wanted to purchase the same pattern and Canada said yes but not with the same color scheme so that's where MARPAT came from. To this day, CADPAT is one of, if not, the most effective woodland pattern ever devised. If you don't believe me, buy some and test it, and no it's not illegal to buy and sell it anymore, except for body armor.
My first term, '77 to '81, in the Army everyone wore the solid green fatigues. The trouser pockets were patch pockets sewn to the outside of the sides of the trousers. A design guaranteed to let anything, keys and coins, fall out. You knew it was a few days before payday because everybody would go to the rec room and search the sofa for coins to get snacks out of the vending machines. Re-enlisted in '84 and got the BDU. It had thicker cloth so was very hot in the summer, but, great in autumn and winter. So the Division Commander had the option of the older Viet-nam green utility uniform. The top had the slanted pockets. You had to buy them with your money. None were issued. Thought the BDU was better than the old green "pickle suit" anyway. Plus, you didn't lose whatever was in your pockets. Just couldn't rely on the couch for extra beer money just before payday.
I served in the USMC from '79 to '83. We were issued the ripstop woodland cammo. That's all we had, but once in awhile, we could buy the slanted pocket Vietnam era mostly green cammo, like you have there. We didn't have reinforced elbows, knees and seats, so a couple of trips to the field would make our cammies essentially unserviceable, due to rips and tears. Thanks for this video. It was good to see some of this old stuff again and the new stuff too!!
Camo was to an extent (to my knowledge) was first used by sharpshooters in the civil war. They wore green, and rubber buttons to reduce shine.
In 1978, Marine Corps bootcamp, San Diego, I was issued the one you showed previous to the woodland, only my upper pockets were slanted at about a 40 degree angle.
The blueberry in my opinion is the prettiest choice of colors ever used in a camouflage. That being said not the wisest choice of colors for people who could possibly fall overboard.
i know this is an old post, they wear coveralls underway (which are also blue so doesn't really help the stigma about WhAt If ThEy Go OvErBoArD?)
You can't wear NWUs when they shift ship's colors (when you are no longer moored to the pier)
The over whites shown at 29:00 are modern. You can tell by the nylon coil zipper. Its from the 80's.
Need that multi cam in my life. Almost got some issued. Much better than ABUs and it breaths.
They are so comfortable if you take the coat off, but the zipper is the best part of it no more buttons except on the trousers
two corrections: Your first "woodland" is out of order with the "lime ERDL" Marine uniform. The pattern was the same as the Vietnam slant pocket blouse but the with a brighter green to go in jungle (Vietnam) environments. I was issued 2 ERDL and 2 Sateen in Parris Island 1977. We transitioned to BDU in 82-83. Straight pockets were cheaper to make (FAR LESS USEFUL). The second correction is why USMC went to Marpat. They were buying them from the Army, but at twice the cost of making them themselves. The decided if they were going to make their own they would design a better pattern (based on Cadpat in Canada).
The Vietnam tiger stripe looks the best. Not useful outside of the jungle but still an amazing design.
Remember when the army uniform was digital green ACUs and the black beret while in garrison? And then there was always that one guy with the BDU pattern IBA.
He completely misidentified that Mitchell pattern shelter half. It's not called ERDL. ERDL is a later pattern used in development of the M81 Woodland pattern.
I am aware that it was used in Vietnam. All I stated was that he got things completely wrong, that the pattern he called ERDL is not called ERDL, it's called "Mitchell pattern".
"Mitchell pattern" is a collector term for the pattern; it's also known as "USMC standard/brown cloud" and "vine leaf" . It was developed by ERDL - Engineering Research and Development Laboratory, so is he not incorrect. The later four-color disruptive pattern, is called "ERDL", "leaf patter" or "ERDL leaf" by collectors. Which collectors further identified as "ERDL highland" and "ERDL lowland" depending on if it was the brown-dominate or green-dominate variation of the pattern.
The US military didn't have specific names for these early patters, these came later from collectors.
ERDL was drawn in 1948. It didn't come into use before spec ops in Vietnam.
ERDL was also called flower power camo by lrrps
The Disclaimer at the beginning was well put and direct.
WOODLAND 4 LIFE BOIS
Woodland FTW!
Jungle is better
Jungle
Yeeee
Not good against IR illuminators and image intensifiers though. The blue version of it however is
Hey I’m a bit late but the 3rd uniform is a army issued parka from the 80s made for the snow
I like the blue berry just because I think it looks cool.
Tanner W Its awesome, and i think it could be really useful at Night operations or attacking ships with boats.
I think it looks great. It reminds me of Serbian camouflage
The snow parka should have a nomenclature tag sewn to the right rear panel just below the hood. Also it should not have zippers, just snaps. I know, because I'm looking at the one the USAF issued me at Minot AFB ND in 1996.
The USAF Combat Security Police were also issued the ERDL pattern uniforms, and were still wearing them until about 1988.
I finally found a US issue snow camo parka but got it too late to use in this video. Maybe ASP will do a Winter Combat Clothing Video in the future so i can display some other related Cold Weather clothing I managed to pick up in my career.
Air force is switching to OCP now too.
Trey Knight yep on more tiger stripes.
i get the desire to switch, but as a pararescue candidate, i prefer that battlefield airmen be the only air force members that get to wear the OCPs.
The Air Force experimented with a tiger stripe that had quite a bit of blue in it. Blue is actually better at night than black because black is too dark. It's harder to see someone moving who's wearing shades of blue than it is black at night because the human eye locks on movement, especially at night.
Thank you for doing this video.
In 2006 during pre-deployment training for Iraq. The Army decided to issue the ACUs en mass to all soldiers even in Iraq to replace the DCUs which was better because it was cooler to wear in the summer in a desert environment. The ACUs material was crappy because they tore very quickly after being washed. The Army even mandated that the detergent used to wash the ACU was Woolite. Even the summer of 2007 in Iraq it became apparent that these thing were even hotter to wear even without body armor. The pattern was useless as a camouflage uniform in any environment. The older DCUs and Chocolate Chip were issued to the Iraqi Army and Police. If ACUs were worn out or beyond repair, soldiers were to burn them after going to company supply to order a new set. These uniforms were never ever given to any Iraqi Army or Police or civilians and treated as sensitive items. The only Iraqis who wore them were the "Terps" or interpreters who were assigned to any Army combat unit or worked in Theater Internment Facilities a.k.a POW camps.
when i enlisted in the Corps back during the early Reagan 80's in boot we were issued ERDL green leaf slanted pockets fatigues and the combat boots were the olive green canvas leather jungle boots and by 83' they began issuing BDU's which were a sad thing to wear but those are the breaks when your a grunt ( 03/11) and the all leather combat boot
The navy blue berries were not made to be worn while underway on ships. The primary uniform of the day while underway are flame retardant coveralls (FRV's) in the event of a fire these will be worn with firefighting turnout gear and if you're in the aviation community that works on the flight deck or hangar bay you would be wearing flight deck gear. Blue berries are only worn while in port ONLY. -Navy vet
Also, let's say you're working line or whatever on deck and fall over, you're wearing your jersey, cranial etc. and I think from what I've seen, you're typically wearing khakis or the dark flight deck pants. I don't think I've seen flight deck personnel wear blueberries even back then.
6:56 the white uniform is issued in Alaska we call them over whites and they aren’t really used much except for when we do jumps into dead horse durning the winter that’s about it, if you look up Alaska airborne on UA-cam you should be able too find videos of guys where the complete over whites
I finally found a set of US issue overwhites two days ago. Too late to include in video
"If you fall overboard, you'll blend in with the waves"
Well Life Jackets are worn by the Navy and usually Life Jackets are ORANGE
But what if fall overboard without a life jacket
@@IS-2_1944 it's literally a rule, I could go far to say a law to wear a life jacket while on a boat
Very interesting collection. Thanks
The pattern on the shelter half is called "Mitchell Pattern" not ERDL. ERDL was general issue in the Marines...I know because I was issued two sets.
As an amateur collector I agree. The two green dominant ERDLs are also different patterns (slanted vs straight pockets).
CAP or Civil Air Patrol which is USAF AUX and the only branch that has an AUX meaning you need a background check now and other things wears the ABUs and the Multicam
MARPAT and UCP My Favorites! Digital Era Camouflage!
Thanks for the great introduction
Your multicam uniform is so messed up. Why do you have 2 flags on It?
same reason he has unapproved morale patches, because he could put them on there.
The design of the pattern that includes the navy seal stamped in all the rip stop fabric, including electronic safe chip is of Mexico Navy, to avoid the unauthorized use of the uniform.
7:35 My brother-in-law wore tiger stripes in VN. He has photos taken of him wearing them although his MOS was 11B with the 25th Inf Div at CuChi 68-69. But there's also photos of him wearing standard OD. Not sure what's the story on the tiger uniform. I know Special Forces were on Black Virgin Mountain at one time and the NVA tried to knock them off. But I'm unsure of time periods of what happened when. So tiger uniforms were in his immediate area.
Sometimes I don't think he's telling the whole story of all that happened there. He sort of makes it sound like he was just a supply guy but other details slip out that indicate something different. His entire company would clean their M16s every evening and take turns cleaning the M60s. They were never ordered to clean weapons, they just did it.
They were a very tight bunch and still stay in contact with periodic gatherings although fewer and fewer attend. I've always had the impression that only certain types of soldiers/pilots formed such a tight bond and supply grunts isn't one of them. But I could be mistaken.
But maybe he requisitioned the tiger stripes and his NCO's and officers didn't care if he wore it. I know from my dad that in Korea some GI's preferred to be at the front to avoid spit and shine at the rear. So unauthorized "stuff" happened to equipment etc. Maybe that was the case at CuChi.
The area wasn't named Iron Triangle for nothing. Sometimes he felt the NVA or VC had a personal vendetta against him as it was rare day when they weren't rocketed. They finally scored a direct hit on his hooch and blew it to pieces. Brother-in-law was not there, out on a patrol sweep IIRC.
MOS 11b.....is infantry. He was a badass. They all were. Tiger stripes werent worn by everyone....over the fence maybe. :)
My Dad also served in Vietnam. Their bond of Brotherhood is like NOTHING I've EVER seen in my lifetime.
His hooch was also hit by a mortar round. There were 3 soldiers sleeping inside.....my Dad and his best friend survived....the 3rd man on the top bunk did not survive as the mortar came through the roof.
His name was Gary L. Hein. He passed on Dec. 6, 1969...Camp Enari, Pleiku...
Never forget💜🇺🇸
From what I've read, UCP was created by testing various colors under night vision and the Army chose the light, medium, and dark colors that worked best under IR and applied it to a CADPAT template.
Regarding the ABUs, there were alot more problems with the ABUs than just the camo pattern. When the Air Force was first testing the ABU, they gave them to some of their spec-ops and ground types for testing and evaluation. So they wore them around doing their normal thing and then sent back their feedback to the AF brass who promptly ingnored every single recommendation/suggestion they made. One serious flaw that the ABU had was an internal map pocket sewn into both left and right sides of the blouse, the problem with this was that they were completely unaccessible when wearing body armor making them useless. To add insult to injury, it also made the uniforms much hotter, something that the Air Force quickly realized in Iraq and Afghanistan. Airmen serving in theater were reportedly quick to cut out the map pockets from the uniforms, something that was orignally not authorized by AF brass but eventually became permissilbe.
About the Blueberries, it was never meant camouflage sailors, it was meant to hide the ship on the sailor. It is the same colors as all the colors on the ships paint.
National 1 last I heard, greens are for shore side sailors, SEABEES and such, tans are for seals, blueberries are getting replaced with navy fire retardant coveralls for all shipboard sailors. I would recommend against the USMC scheme of color for seasons. Marines in AZ in greens and in NY and Pearl Harbor in deserts.
Hey y’all, AD in Japan. Yeah it’s official. They’re phasing out the blueberries, and the green ones are going to be the official uniform for ALL navy personnel. Shore commands get issued it first as organizational clothing, but it is possible to purchase at some NEX locations.
Clausvonclauswitz any word on the FR coveralls? I got out and last three in the Army were in US Army Garrison Hoth far from any squid population.
Khanclansith thank you at least somebody knows their stuff
Khanclansith no the type 3's are replacing the type 1's
Never knew or asked. But my great grand Dad had the Marine corps cammo jacket even though he was Army. It was his hunting cammo. Awesome.
Im glad the Marines went to their own pattern. I almost lost rank on an army base because some dumb army officer kept referring to me as a soldier. I even replied the first time and informed him that we were all Marines.
Al Dever maybe he's not dumb. Maybe he was doing it just to piss you off for his own personal enjoyment.
Todd Secor. He was a boot lt. I should have just thrown him a compass.
Al Dever how bout you get off your fucking high horse and respect the rank, no matter the branch
RatHeadxxx what branch were you in?
Found the Boot ass Lt. it's RatHeadxxx
Missed one. The OD BDU transitional uniform.
Great video.
There was a time .... not long ago..... that camouflage was a valuable skill.......not a fashion statement.
A good uniform can be intimidating. The nazi uniforms were designed by Hugo boss and they’re iconic. Infamous but iconic.
I love this! Again, very informative and cool. Keep posting.👍
most effective modern camouflages in no order:
M81 Woodland, Desert marpat (also Aor1 because they are very similar), OCP (also multicam), Woodland Marpat, Aor2 (Navy gaucamole camo), Flecktarn, Tiger stripe (included for modern special force use) Atacs AU, Dyed UCP (Dyed green or other colors by owner)
Reversible is such a simple yet effective concept... instead of trying and failing with a UCP
I really enjoy the new Navy & Marine Corps uniforms.
I loved your little conversation about Vietnam near the end of the video !
personally i like the navy digital blue camo, it looks the best in my opinion, makes the sea dwellers look like they actually do something cool LOL
Mike 242 atacs le would be a good camp for them to wear
@Jordan Tyler The utility purpose is that chicks dig it, lol
My neighbor had a uncle who was a colonel serving in Vietnam. His uncle sent him a tiger stripe uniform home when he was about 12. He wore it until he outgrew it than he gave it to me and when I outgrew it I gave it to my nephew who wore it till it feel apart. Three young boys who were walking in high cotton when it was there turn to ware the uniform . We were the only one in the area that had a set of tiger stripe and we were very proud of it.
I actually really like the ACU uniform the most
You mean UCP? UCP is the actual camo pattern. ACU is the uniform cut of the army
My father was a member of the Brown Water Navy on PBRs in Vietnam. One of their jobs was to insert and extract special forces units. He mentioned that he saw a lot of the woodland style camouflage among US special forces.
18:50 Why would you, as a sailor, be wearing your blue camo while on deck? You're not supposed to wear the thing on deck. There really isn't a threat of falling off your boat if you're not on deck either.
I just watch your UA-cam show that was really great military take it Serious on the uniforms and so others can identify but great show
Really good video!!!
At 20:07 you can see a very distinct shape which in my opinion looks like the lower half of a gun (without that slide) except obviously in pixel form. This pattern is on every USMC uniform I've seen and many times I've been marching and have played "Find the gun" on people's uniforms. On the navy uniform it runs up and down and on the marines it runs left to right. Basically the NAVY just flipped the marpat uniform camos direction
I never knew the U.S. Marines wore bape back in 1942 01:03
Jose Rodarte bape needs to do a u.s army collab
I was just thinking that
Bape wore the marines camo
Awesome video!
Great video and very informative! Yes, a lot of money was made with the non-camoflage patterns and should be investigated. Thank you for the video and thank you for your service. Enjoy your retirement!
I wore the Woodland BDUs or lightweight OD green jungle fatigues serving in the 82nd Airborne 1983-90. Those were the best uniforms issued to the US Army.
Was there a difference between jungle pants used in Vietnam and the BDU pants in OG from thee 80s?
Woodland BDUs made us Air Force folks that worked on concrete stand out....like trees on concrete. The later ABUs actually did make you blend with the concrete, especially with heat waves. THe 3-color desert worked quite well on concrete as well.
Great vid thank you, well filmed and a good presentation.
I like to combine camouflage to break up My pattern even more. I have a Waffen SS reversible jacket. It is very relevant in the environments that I am in
Fort Dix! My late father was US Army, Sergeant First Class at Fort Dix for 10 years of 1956 to 1966. And his brother was US Army, Colonel at same base for 22 years of 1950 to 1972
Guy does not know what he is talking about. The first cammy uniform he shows is not a Marine uniform. I was in the Corps for 20 years. We were still being issued the WW2 cammy
uniforms in Recon up until Vietnam.
I do a lot of varmit calling at night and have found that the tiger strip camo blends in the best! I also have a friend that was one of the first "seals" in Viet Nam. He was a member of the UDT squad and was offered a new assignment so he took it. They all wore the tiger strips as they gather info in Laos and Cambodia. I also wear the digital desert USMC pattern in West Texas and it does a great job in blending in.
Actualy the navy units sea or land are replacing all of their uniforms
he doesn't have nwu type 2, the navy desert uniform, which is slightly different from usmc desert uniform