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Explaining US Army enlisted rank
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- In this episode ill breakdown and explain US Army enlisted rank. Ill tell you what it takes to get to that rank, how it looks and more in this episode.
PLDC is now BLC (Basic leaders course)
BNOC is now ALC (Advanced leadership course)
And more.....
Schools are required again to get promoted to an NCO rank.
Time in service/ time in grade can get a waiver to allow a soldier to be promoted sooner if approved by leadership.
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BEFORE YOU COMMENT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING: (1) When i uploaded this video i only had about 200 ish subscribers and was only getting on average 10 views per video. So when i made this video and discovered the audio was too loud i just left it because I figured it would still only get a hand full of views and it was not worth fixing the mistake for about 10 people. Hell for about 2 months after I uploaded this video it only had around 20 views. Its now too late to take it down and re-upload a corrected version because that would break the link that UA-cam has in suggesting this video to people and would cut the #1 way that many subscribers find out about this channel. (2) I made this video so that a few of my friends could understand rank in the Army and did not want to over complicate some of the info. Now that a lot more people are seeing the video some feel I did not explain some things enough and some feel I explained things too much. Over all I just wanted people to get an idea of how people move up in rank but did not intend to create a video that explains everything in detail. (3) I am aware of the names for the current schools that are required to get promoted. When i threw together this video I did so in like an hour. I did not look at the current names prior too because going back to #1, I did not want to spend a lot of time researching everything for the video to just get a few views. ****** So in the months that followed after the increase in activity on my channel it was due to this video that i decided to become an Army related channel and put more effort into the content, do more planning before i shoot a video and work on things from there. So be sure to also check out some of my newer videos to see how I have adapted from making this video just because, to creating videos about the Army or military because I now have many more viewers that want to know more info about a topic. Thanks.
Peeratat R Think of the Sgt Major as a dog, a well trained, loyal, viscious dog. He answers to the commanding officer. Good luck telling your commander's dog what to do. Expect to get bit if you make him mad. (Met a Sgt Major who gave me this opinion.) Essentially he has a clearly defined role and duties which rarely, if ever, puts him in subordination to other officers as far as chain of command and especially not LTs.
Peeratat R something like that but they each know their place and duties. If a disagreement happens the LT should realize that the Sgt Major has the confidence of the commanding officer. The Sgt Maj is almost always much older and then has greater experience than LTs and so his age may give him additional respect.
Officers and NCOs have very defined roles in the US ARMY-officers plan, NCOs execute- when they both stay in their defined roles things are usually fine, when one tries to sway too much to the other side is when things can get out of hand, I would usually see this more with warrant officers than regular commissioned ones because most warrants were prior NCOs so alot of them would still have that mentality especially when it would come to dealing with soldiers directly. The fastest way to piss off a good NCO is to have an officer undermine his authority and deal with a soldier directly.
Christopher Chaos congrats on the sudden growth. I found the video very informative and didn't mind the audio. Thank you.
Christopher Chaos fast finger typing head ahh 😂
I thought rank was based on your xp
Andrew Jighunter no actually I’m almost max prestige and I have chrome camo, so they’re pretty proud.
Strive for that gold and diamond bro.. then your parents will be very proud ahaha
Lmao
Andrew Jighunter do u not get a joke??
Gamers
E1-Boot, E2-Private, E3-PFC, E4-Specialist/Corporal, E5- Sarrnt', E6- Sarrnt', E7- Sarrnt', E8 - 1st Sarrnt'/Masa Sarrnt', E9- Sarrnt' Major.
We dont say Master Sarnt
@@TommyTombstone We do??
@@bobbywelch2759 who is we?
@@bobbywelch2759 Uh... that depends on the asshole who is wearing it. Most of the time it's just "sgt". Had a guy that wanted his full title... when it isnt even in the customs lol
E1-E3 is Pryat
I asked the Colonel what the lowest rank in the army was.
He said, "It's Private."
I said, "Come on, you can tell me."
Did he laughed?
If you served in the US Military and your reading my comment....THANKYOU for your service. You are much appreciated....
Lightning Brigade your welcome 🙏🏽
@@emirkurniawan2558 they call me price
Thanks and your welcome. 😎
I was e4
MOs?
My grandpa was a Master Sergeant during the Korean Conflict. RIP Grandpa Dickie
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A friend of mine was at Airborne School and addressed a USMC SSG as "Sergeant," just as we do in the Army. As he was about to get riggedy riggedy rekt by this Devil Dog, our E-5 (SGT) Airborne Instructor heard the yelling and asked what happened.
"He just addressed a Staff Sergeant as 'Sergeant'!!!"
"Yeah, that's how we do shit in the Army and this is an Army school, now do pushups, Sergeant!"
Instructor privileges 🤷♂️
😆
Beat your boots!
😂😂
Which means the Marine didn't learn the customs of other branches.
@@Mortlupo you accidentally put "marine" and "learn" in the same sentence
Brother I thank you for your service first, and also thank you for your continued service in helping others understand some of the machine that is the U.S. Military. God Bless you and yours.
Yes
I was so good I made E4 3 times 😎
Greg, thanks, needed that. lol.
WHAT!
Gregory Marshall njp’s builds character
🤣🤓😹
Gregory Marshall 😂
Selection for promotions to E-7, E-8, and E-9 are made at the Department of the Army level by centralized promotion boards. You didn't say anything incorrect in the video, but you didn't really make this clear. Excellent video!
Excellent and informative video! I joined the army in January 1966 ($78/month base pay). I was shipped to Vietnam in June 1966 and assigned to the 1st Infantry as a rifleman (MOS 11B) - later, a machine gunner (M60). I extended my tour 6 months and was transferred to aviation to be a Huey chopper door gunner. About 6 months later I was the door gunner for MG John Hay's, the commanding general of the 1st Infantry. Shortly before I left Vietnam in January 1968 he pinned sergeant E-5 stripes on me. That was after 2 years in the army. Things were different in a war zone- plus, a general can do whatever he wants (within reason). Base pay for a sergeant E-5 was approx. $250/mo., combat pay $50/mo. and flight pay $50/mo. Oh, and mom would send me a few bucks every now and then, too. I had enough cash to go visit Suzie in Phu Loi every few weeks....
Longhorn77Gunner 1-1 ARB?
Yes I remember that $ $78
At that time it was the 1st Aviation Battalion of the 1st Infantry Division. I believe it no longer exists (that was 50 years ago). The crest is the icon I use here. I read the crest was re-designated to the 1st Aviation Regiment of the 1st Infantry Division.
now every division has an Aviation Brigade attached. Light units normally have transportation Aviation while Heavy Units have attack aviation
now every division has an Aviation Brigade attached. Light units normally have transportation Aviation while Heavy Units have attack aviation
I am proud of my father he was in the United States Army for 23 years..He was a E7..He retired from Fort Riley Kansas..Now lives in North Carolina ..
My pops was an E-7 too we were in fort Riley 87-95 then he retired in fort lewis
I went in as an E3 due to the buddy program and passing my pt test prior to leaving for BCT.
It was easy to make E4, but it took what felt like a lifetime to make Sgt.
Im a master prestige
Mad respect to anyone actually in the military
fuckin noob
Amelia Lasko It was a joke honey. Where would you rather be, above or below a Master Bater?
Tien Shenhan no, you're an idiot call of duty nerd
I’m a grandmaster prestige
Whoismoreno Corral I'm a grandfather prestige.
My nephew has been climbing the ranks and plans to retire from the Army. This helped me understand WTF is going on with the rankings. Subbed. Oh, and your transition vids will help me with my vids too. :) Thanks man!
awesome!! Glad my videos could help. Thanks for watching!!!
I have 3 Brothers in the military
Boy, it’s so different now than when I was in (1966-1968). I was drafted, rather than having enlisted. Pay for a trainee in Basic (E-1) was $78.50 per month, and we only got paid once a month. Fifty dollars of that pay went home to my then wife. So, living on the rest was really tough.
If my memory serves me correctly. I was promoted to E-2 after basic, when I went to AIT to train as a 91A10, Medical Corpsman. After AIT, as a 91A10, I was assigned to Fort Polk, La, and my MOS was changed to 71H10, Personnel Specialist, but I was still an E-2. After 3 months or so, I was promoted to E-3, still as a 71H10. About 10-12 months in, I was promoted to E-4, (SP-4) a Specialist Forth Class, and my MOS was changed to 71H20. After 15 months in, I was promoted to E-5, (SP-5) Specialist 5th Class, (we called it SPEC 5 under 2), which meant a Specialist 5th Class under 2 years service). Pay for a E-5 at that time, was $256.00 per month. I was recommend for the promotion by my Supervisor, who was a 2nd Lieutenant. My MOS was changed to 71H30. I was an E-5 when I was discharged in 1968. Of course, things were cheaper back then, but that pay was still hardly enough to live on. But, we made it. Those were the days!!!
Thank you for YOUR service, and God Bless.
I went in as an E-3 in 2005, made E-4 in 2007, then E-5 in 2009. Got out in 2010. People have told me "Thank you for your service" and what I really want to tell them is "don't thank me for my service. I signed up for the job and I got paid. You want to thank someone for their service, thank a teacher or a draftee". So that being said, thank YOU for your service.
My great uncle Ralph was a command sergeant major. He's retired. Now I'm joining and I'm shipping to basic in a month.
@Abel Ramirez - God Speed!
How was it?
Abel Ramirez how’s it going bro?
Did you pass?
I think he died
During my time in the Army, I actually enjoyed being a CPL vs. a SGT. I got away with a lot if shit as a CPL because soldiers aren't use to seeing CPLs in the unit. And it was funny showing up in NCODP and usually being the only CPL there. Getting second looks from other NCO's thinking I was wearing private stripes. Lol
You were in the E4 Mafia
I really appreciated this. I spent twenty-seven years in the Air Force so I knew some of the basics of Army rank but not nearly as much as this video gave. Thanks.
Gary Odle glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching it and thank you for your service!!
I agree
Gary Odle Airforce rank is confusing as fuck.
First Last,
E-1: Airman Basic (AB)
E-2: Airman (Amn)
E-3: Airman First Class (A1C)
E-4: Senior Airman (SrA)
____________________
NCO:
E-5: Staff Sergeant (SSgt)
E-6: Technical Sgt (TSgt)
____________________
SNCO:
E-7: Master Sergeant (MSgt)
E-8: Senior Master Sgt (SMSgt)
E-9: Chief Master Sergeant (CMSgt)
Currently an E-3 right now and I still have like a year before I sew on for that E-4 mafia life. Planning on making Staff and getting out though. Definitely doable in 6 years. If I’m gonna do 20, definitely want to retire as a Master at least. Chief is really hard to make because just getting past Staff Sergeant is hard enough. Got to be crazy good at your job and have loads of education. Technical Sergeant is the hardest one to get though.
Digital Apex I was talking more about the insignia.
Battle,
I am a SGM and although some of the schools have changed names, you NAILED this! It is simply put and gets the clear message across. Very well put together video for those who want a clear overview of how the Army’s enlisted ranks are structured. Thank you.
E4 Mafia where you at? Shame 🛡️ crew!
Ayyyy 🤘🛡
@@TommyTombstone Haha, the shame shield
I'll be there hopefully in 3 years lol I leave this summer for basic
The best rank ever
😂
Just a side note E1-E4 is a Advancement and E5-E9 is a promotion.
kenneth fielding Negatron Skittles
Promotion is any time you rank up regardless. Lt to CPT, PFC to SPC, 1SG to CSM, all considered a promotion. I think you meant E5-E9 is a NCO
They're all promotions.
+chris L damn chill he tried
+chris L damn chill he tried
Thanks for your service and explaining these ranks, my dad was a E5 in the Vietnam era and I wasn't sure what that was, he passed away and all I had was some old Army photo's. Thanks again...
I got E5 in the Navy. Great times. Great experiences. Didn’t leave as, or become gay. Not so bad.🤙
Sergeant Robert
golden potato *PO2. No sergeants in the Navy
Did you meet Petty Officer Dingleberry?
Nice job semen
@@vibewolf1191 he love to Boogey
I’m E-3 just enlisted yesterday. I have about 63 college credit
Thats about right. With associate degree you can gwt in as E3, with bachelor degree - E4
More accurate representation
1. Silver 1
2. Silver 2
3. Silver 3
4. Silver 4
5. Silver Elite
6. Silver Elite Master
7. Gold Nova 1
8. Gold Nova 2
9. Gold Nova 3
10. Gold Nova Master
11. Master Guardian 1
12. Master Guardian 2
13. Master Guardian Elite
14. Distinguished Master Guardian
15. Legendary Eagle
16. Legendary Eagle Master
17. Supreme Master First Class
18. The Global Elite
Thanks for all who. Served. Thank. My. Father. Ww2 owkanowa. 1943. 45
CSGO?
TrezzY im a gold nova 2
Russell Howard hacksaw ridge?
I'm gold Nova master.
I got promoted a lot faster in the 82nd Airborne!
Rules change and exceptions can be made
@@samtheman4307 yeah when ur high speed you get promoted faster
@@HateTheIRS I'm low speed high drag tho
Yep. I wanted to try and get in with the Rangers, when I was in, so that I could pickup rank faster.
@@Lurkartiist How's your cardio?
Going in as a e3 because of my college and I’ll take advantage of the free schooling
I was told entering as an E3 automatically puts you at E3 pay. Do you also gain the rank of PFC with patches?
Would also really like an answer on this. I will be joining as an e3 because of college as well
Been treating vets for the past 12 years, so I know most of this stuff. But, some details I didn't know! Thanks! It gets even more complicated when looking at past eras or wars (e.g, Vietnam)...
Thank you. Seems much more complicated than in the days I remember back in WWII.
Dindin Private did you fight in world war 2 if you did thank you for your service
Dindin Private I thank you for your service too. If it wasn't for u guys that monster Adolf Hitler would have took over
Thank you for your service! We fight not for medals though or honor and riches but for love, brotherhood, family, the weak and helpless which I would assume you know best. Some of the leaders in the military complex, wealthy men and those who have recieved much honor and wealth never deserved them like real heroes who faught.
Mad props
This helps a lot! My military friends keep abbreviating everything as if I know what they're talking about
My E-1 pay in 1978 was $397.50. I was promoted E-5 (Specialist Five) in 1980. My rank was changed to Sergeant when the Army eliminated Spec 5 rank. I ETSed in 1987 still an E-5 because my cutoff score was 998. One month in the Army Reserve I was promoted to SSG. I retired in 2010 as a SGM.
My E-1 pay when I joined the Army in 1966 was $96.90
Can you tell me more about the army in the 80’s my dad was in the 25th infantry schofield barracks in Hawaii. He passed a year ago. I have his army jacket & miss him soo soo much. He was e-5, sharpshooter, had secret clearance. He passed at the va in palm beach florida. If you have any good stories about the army in the 80’s you would make my year. Thank you for your service 🙏🏻
PFC is the best because you're the top of the bottom. More and they expect things from you. By PFC, you've learned to avoid work.
FACTS
Specialist! E-4 mafia.
Specialist: "Butttt, at least youre not a private."
Specialist = Private +more pay
If you enlist as an Eagle Scout, you enter as an e2, that's what I did
If you achieve the rank of cadet officer (I think Cadet/1Lt) in the Civil Air Patrol, you can graduate from USAF boot camp as an E3 (Airman First Class.) This is a good reason to join a cadet corps of some kind while in school. The CAP, Sea Cadets or JROTC will all give you a great start as an enlisted recruit in any of the branches of the service, except perhaps the Marine Corps. Better still, do really well in any of those cadet corps (say making Cadet/Colonel), and it will help you get to a military academy like West Point (Army), Annapolis (Navy) or Colorado Springs (Air Force).
Lindsay Edwards, I graduated from my ARmy JROTC program as our Cadet Battalion Commander. The most memorable years of my life were leading our drill team to 1st overall in the Army Nationals. Ahhh memories
It depends how good you do at basic and if you went to collage rotc
Oh yeah, Eagle Scouts have a huge leg up
@@thomaswilliamson625 I reached captain I was company commander I led our company to being disbanded from fucking all my female subs! Very memorable for me also!
I enlisted as a Pvt E-1 and was promoted to PFC E-3 upon graduating Basic Training.
Of course this was 1967 during the Vietnam War.
Richard Hoepfner
I don't know if I should believe this.
@@kingdomofprussiaball7438 - What's to not believe? Do you want my DD-214 or something?
Richard Hoepfner
Not really, but I wouldn't mind it.
What rank did you made out when you left ?
@@welersonm.8212 - Spec. E-4. Not a Lifer.
To all Veterans, Thank you for your service to our country! You are loved, respected and Appreciated! GOD bless
there is a good deal of talk about how little money the lower enlisted ranks make, but one has to remember the following: you will be living on post/base, medical/dental are all covered, same with food (if one so chooses). So, for those who want to continue to complain about pay look at your current pay check and look at how much you pay for rent/mortgage, and then how much you are deducting for medical/dental, and how much for groceries. Even a lower enlisted can still take home
some decent money each month. One does not have spend it all on clubbing/booze and eating out all the time.
@Lou Pyzik - still difficult for a family
vlugovsky I’m an e5 on my 6th year of service. I had one kid when I enlisted and a second well still in my first contract. Personally I have never had a problem financially.
When you consider as a civilian I would be paying 1500 a for a 3 bedroom house plus utility’s, 300 a month for health insurance with a 2000 deductible. And then food for myself ( I eat breakfast and lunch in the chow hall) so for me it isn’t bad. And the fact that they give you more then enough to earn your bachelors. But everyone is used to different living styles.
@@austinrousee6729 Austin, Fringe benefits come always handy. If I were in you guys' situation, I would keep my sight on that BS degree. It is a nice freebie to take advantage of...good for you and family short and long term. God bless.
richard acevedo I actually received my B.S sociology (criminology). I’m now commissioned, and working on my Masters in Homeland security.
With that being said if I could go back I likely would have stayed enlisted.
Nothing as funny as an aviation warrant officer telling the infantry division CSM he should not be smoking in a combat zone. Pilot goes to Division commander complaining that the CSM said he would kick the pilot's ass. Division Commander says, I would be careful because he can kick my ass too.
Now THAT's funny!
I served in the us army from '86 - '90 and I did see the respect shown to a SM from a full bird colonel during a barracks inspection in AIT, something i'll never forget.
When I was a captain in the Air Force, the CO tasked our unit Chief (E-9) with collecting and editing quarterly reports from every division. I made sure that I delivered the reports for my division.
First quarterly report I delivered, the Chief asked, "Is this from (name of division)?"
I replied, "Yes, sir."
Chief. "Captain, you don't call me 'sir'. I call you 'sir'."
Me. "Chief, you got more time in the Air Force than I have on the planet. When you speak, the colonel and the general listen. I know the protocol, and outside your office, we will follow it. But I also know who's who and what's real, and in your office, I call you 'sir'."
Chief said nothing, but after that, I got what I asked for.
Yup. The unwritten rule is that officers, especially junior officers, ask their sergeants for recommendations and then they turn those recommendations into orders.
I have a family friend who was a radio technician for the Australian army in Vietnam. This was his story.
He was sent to an American base to fix one of radio towers, turns out it was ww2 equipment that he's never seen because the Australian army likes to keep up with the times. So he had to spend 2 days reading how to fix it. The American SM came to him to complain. My family friend was E1. Told him too bad your country keeps old shit it'll take a while to fix. He got grumpy went to my friends O1 who got mad at the SM for questioning someone who's doing a specialist task. Told him to keep his mouth shut and respect all ranks. Haha good ol nam
I got a huge one for you, I was Black Opps Shadow Company Airborne Ranger 2nd Battalion 101st, I made 1st Sargent in 26 weeks of my Ranger training myself and 220 other soldiers were chose for this position, mine was for my high powered shooting skills shot Expert on anything I picked up, Then We were sent to Demo school so after 52 weeks of some serious training I was 1st Sargent for 20 years on one of our missions to Bosnia, I received my 10-11-12 Purple Heart in one day, then I also Received my 5th Bronze Star from my non coms and my 6th Silver Star from my Officers then to top that off 16 of us 1st Sargents got a field Promotion to Majors, I waited until I was healed up from being blown up and shot twice once in each shoulder while I was taking the fight to get my troops uncover ,I was in a fire fight with Serbs according to CID and the officers I personally Killed 368 with my M60 in the fire fight, and no one knew about it because we were Black Opps we dont exist non of us, I gave up my Commission and retired the 15 other Majors did the samething as I did, then 30 of the other Officers Retired also, long in short they had to retire everyone in the company and disband the unit.
The bad thing about being a Ranger in Black Opps is we get no VA Benefits
Period , you ask yourself why does this happen, its easy how do you give Benefits to someone that doesn't exist.
Really clearly explained. Thank you for this.
I mean the pay is shit, but they do pay for all the things you would have to pay for in a civilian employment e.g. The barracks, chow, and even travel >:D
Ya. That part is good. The only thing I hated was I did not learn what it was like to pay rent, utilities, budget out groceries until I was 25.
Andrew Jighunter The recruiters actually use travelling as a reason to join so you sound like you dont know what youre talking about.
barracks sucks, chow sucks, now the travel..... the whole reason i reenlisted lol. @ Andrew Jighunter ive been to plenty of countries, maybe you havent traveled much for a reason lol
The pay Generals get isn’t shit lol
The British army you have to pay rent even if your on barracks. Pay for food in the mess. Because it's shit.
I’m prestige 7 level 24 we out here grinding lol
Morse Code lol
Thank you for your service
Albino Tangerine
Lol
Your videos bring back memories of when I was in for a little bit. I only made it to e-2 . And got an honorable discharge by failing my pt test. I guess because I didn't do anything wrong or get in trouble they still have me an honorable discharge. But nice videos man. Hooah!
Thank you for this video. As a former enlisted sailor that became a midshipman (USNA) and later an an officer (USMC) there was a lot of things that I DID NOT know about the Army and Air Force.
My grandson went intoArmy Special Forces training right out of college as an E-4. After completing 2 1/2 years of training, he made E-5. This is a specialty MOS and promotions come faster than the ordinary MOS's.
E4 isn't a rank its a mafia lol
aaaahahahaahah
Larry Welser
🤔🤔🤔 not necessarily I wasn't E7 rank I don't know what you're talking about brother
Pay grade ...E-4 is a pay grade the rank is called specialist or Corporal
larry, we don't talk about the mafia.......
Larry Welser civi here; what do you mean by mafia?
"Private Second Class (E-2)?" Use to be called "Private" when I was in (1982).
Thanks for the info! Granny Winters (army brat) here from Missouri. I was an army brat from birth to 19 years old! That was 35 years ago!! I still miss it. I loved being an army brat! Sure I went to several different grade schools, I learned to make friends fast! My daddy was in the army for 24 years, 9 months, and 17 days!! He was a dental lab tech, DLT (fancy way of saying he made false teeth). But when you think of how many military men loose teeth in boot camp, training exercises and war, I still see him as serving his country with dignity!! I also think he did more because he had a pretty high clearance level for just being a DLT. He passed away almost 3 years ago, just 5 months shy of his 80th birthday. It was hard losing him. But he’s now arguing with my mom in heaven, probably losing as usual!! It was generous of you to break down the ranks because it’s been so long since I was part of the army family that I had forgotten a lot of the ranks and their order. Thank you so much for your service!!
Granny Winters
US Army Brat 19 years
Just a note: all Specialists must attend the modern equivalent of PLDC (referred to now as BLC-Basic Leaders Course) before being eligible to pin SGT even after being recommended at a promotion board. The same for ALC (Formerly BNCOC) and so forth... I actually enjoyed this video despite my 11 years of active duty service... It made me really think as to where we sat as young Privates on the totem pole long ago which I never really reflected on at the time...
How recent is this? I was promoted to SGT in 2008 without going to any leadership school. Had to go to it to be eligible for SSG though.
I was a Corporal for about 2 months, (mid 80's) after passing my boards and while waiting for the promotion orders to Sgt E5. I was in Armor and was probably the only Corporal in the Battalion during that time.
I earned my promotion to Sergeant (E-5) and pinned at 2.5 years. My other promotions were also earned significantly fast by working and standing out and above my peers. 🤘🏽💯
My uncle came from the bottom joing the army and served in Iraq and Afghanistan and now he recently became a sergeant major. It make take alot of work and passion to rank up but if you stick to it your time, sweat, blood and tears can leave you with an amazing retirement and alot of other benefits along with really good pay.
Wow when I was in, 69 - 71, I made E-5 in 10 months and 2 days. Plus I was a Speedy 5. The difference between a Speedy 5 and a Sargent E-5 was that Speedy 5s could read.
Thank you for this video. I was pulled aside and chewed out for addressing a Sergeant Major as "Sergeant" once. I had enlisted in the National Guard after prior service in the Navy, so I never went to Army basic training but learned on the job until going to Ft Sam Houston for AIT. It was at Ft Sam that I was rudely alerted to give senior NCO's due respect.
I should have known better. I had been fascinated with military rank since elementary school - loved the World Book Encyclopedia article on the Army. Coming from a family with Navy ties, I went Navy first. Should have studied Army enlisted rank more closely.
So, your video brings back memories and I appreciate your effort.
Thanks Chris, your videos have been super helpful to me. Enlisted and ship out next month. With your advice and helpful info along with many other UA-camrs trying to help all the newbies, I know I will be much more successful. Again, Thank You, a whole heap!
At age 17, I entered basic training (OSUT) and AIT for a 12B (Combat Engineer) as an E-3 because I convinced over two dozen of my high school class (1982) to join with me. “Stripes for Buddies” program.
Corporal if memory serves is a hard striper , meaning they can command troops in the field and are a NCO and were seen as such.
Indeed. The difference between a Corporal and a Specialist is that the Corporal has command responsibilities, whereas the Specialist usually does not..
Corporal is in the middle of the NCO which has command responsibilities! In a rifle half squad you could be second in command!
I came out of the Army in 88' as an E-4 and didn't make 2000 a month. Todays buck privates are making a little less than what I made as an E-4, but not by much. But I'm glad for them. Anyone who is willing to put his, or her life on the line, for their country, deserves to be well compensated. President Trump took a lot of flack for this statement, but I'm sure that anyone that has served in the military would agree. We all knew what we were signing up for. I had three uncles that served during war time. Two during WW2, and one of those under General Patton. The second one was on a ship heading for Japan when peace was announced. The third during the Korean war. So I knew exactly what I was signing up for, an was proud to do it. However, those that were forced to serve, because of the draft, and the families of the fallen, I can understand if they have hard feelings. I'm sure I would to if I have a loved one that didn't come home because they were forced to serve without any choice. I think it's a shame that the Government of those days didn't trust the American people to make a decision for themselves. They were told you'll go or else. I'm only talking about a volunteer Military. My own personal thoughts on the matter is, I think that every person should serve at least three years. That would give everyone a little on the job training, while earning a pay check. And they would know the basics if they were ever called on.
@Otis Fugate - totally agreed. They should not have eliminated the draft.
When I was in, I got 454 a month and that was E4 with 2rs in
The dollar doesnt stretch as far as it did in ‘88. Shoot, the dollar doesnt stretch as far as it did in 2008
Inflation of the dollar.
When i was drafted in 1969 as a private i got 98. A month at 20 month i made E 5 I WAS GETTING. 265.00 A month
A lot has changed in 52 years. In Vietnam, I went from PFC to E5 in about 9 weeks. High turn over----
Took me 3 months to become Spec 4 E-4.I enlisted after graduating college, because I would have been drafted. 1970-1971.
Great job Christopher! You cleared so many things up for me.
My husband served in World War ll, Korea and Vietnam and then entered the National Guard till retirement. No lie I have the pictures. My husband was Elvis Presley platoon sergeant in the army. Pay was $2.55 a day back in the 1940's. World War ll was a deadly war
@ Tina Swindle - Fabulous! Kudos to the both of you
$2.55 in 1940 adjusted for inflation in 2019 is $45.76. Today's E1 makes $46.67 a day... Good thing I have enough college credits to enlist as a E2. I was an Eagle Scout and did two years in JROTC as a Cadet 1st Platoon Sergeant, think it'll help with advancement?
nlh719 As an Eagle Scout you should probably go in as an E3 just as a scout you can go in as an E2. Plus you say you also have JROTC. If you have not signed a contract don’t do it until you get what you want. If I am not mistaken you still go to basic as an E1 but when training is completed you get your promotion to the rank you are promised on the contract. Please keep in mind my info is based on regulations in 1978. I left the art in 1995. When I left the army the Brownies were stricter than the army which is the main reason I got out. I am still proud of the Army and all the other services. They’re the reason we are enjoying the freedom that we have.
“No lie” wow quite the vocabulary you got there :)
Many civilians in 1940 would only have made $1 a day if they had a "good" job. A really menial job might only pay $.25 (that's 25 cents) a day! Back then, no paperwork to fill out and absolutely no rights as a laborer. You could get hired more easily but get fired even easier! Even today, if you consider that servicemembers are taken fed, clothed, housed, treated medically and transported by the military while on active duty, they can (and should) save (and should invest) most of their pay -- if they don't have dependents to support.
my grandpa served in the Korean war he went from buck private to master sergeant in a year and a half I have never met a person more squared away than him!
Patrick Mbahi what did he do to get promoted so fast?
Gucci Mane explaining the sauce probably some magic and made friends wth the right people and was highly competent other than that Imhave no idea
My g-g-grandpa went from private in '62 to first sergeant in '64. He was promoted to 2Lt. by February of '65.
Bob Flendorg - Impossible to go from E-1 to E-8 in two years. Didn't happen. 2Lt possible if he went to Officer Candidate School. I was in from '63 to '65. I think your gramps may have told you a tall tale.
Texman81: He had no time for officer candidate school. He was kinda busy shooting yankees at Petersburg, Virginia.
Good job explaining current rank system ! I'm an old retired veteran now who served in ancient times of the eary 70s, from 71-75 active, 75-77 National Guard. In the late 60s there were specialist grades all the way up to SP/9 and a saw some of them in 1971. These were considered technical subject experts in their particular support MOS, but not in the military leadership chain of command. They didn't have the requirements of combat training and leadership as the so called " Hard ranks " with the chevrons. The Army gradually reduced those Specialist ranks down to SP/5 by the time I was eligible to advance, and that was the rank I held on Discharge in 1975, and two more years in National Guard. That Sp/5 rank was eliminated in 1989, leaving only the Sp/4 of today. The Sp ranks only had rockers above the small eagle on the shoulder patch, thus we were known as " Bird Corporal E-4 ", or " Bird Sgt. E-5 " and so on up the ranks.
As I have been told there was never anyone promoted to Sp9. The only Sp9's were in some type of nuclear MOS. I knew a Sp 7 once. He was a general's secretary.
When I enlisted as a E-1, I made $361 a month and thought that I was a rich 17 year old. After OSUT, my friend Rodriguez were assigned to the same detachment whereas we were the only privates and were pulled in all directions for crap details. After two months of taking orders from everyone, while we were on KP duty behind the mess hall, our First Sergeant walked by and tossed us our E-2 mosquitoe wings and kept going. We were so happy to have rank the we pinned and saluted each other not knowing that we were to have a formal unit ceremony later. When I graduated PNOC (PLDC) and made E-5 Sergeant, I never received my NCODP ribbon.
It was all good though because I became a Officer retiring as a Major. All enlisted people, especially Privates, will always had a special place in my heart. I miss THE ARMY.
I say horseshit - a Major would know how to spell and construct a sentence.
Joined in 1963. Pay for an E-1 was $78.00 a month and we were paid monthly. Discharged in 1967. Last monthly pay $210.00 was for SP-5 the rank I was promoted to after 18 months in service.. Specialists did not have boards, it was usually time in grade. They knew better than to ask anyone who worked with me how to march or what rifles the army was using at the time. When I wrote specialist, I meant after basic training, we never marched, fired a rifle or knew what a formation was.
Wow
I wasn’t even a sperm cell back then
When I was an E-4 a Senior Airman we went on from there to become a Buck SGT with NCO status.
I joined the Army Reserve in 1983 and served six years until 1989. During those first two years, they had the ranks of Specialist 5 and Specialist 6, in addition, to Specialist 4. In 1985, those 5 and 6's were converted to hard stripe Sergeants and Staff Sergeants.
this is really helpful. I wish other branches had your content
Reminds me of the poor lad I knew who spent 2 years in the USN and characterized his service as "Gee, I almost made E-3 once." Also reminds me of the Tom Lehrer army song: "Our Lieutenant was an up and coming type, played a soldier as a boy, you just can bet. It is written in the stars that he will get his captain's bars, but he hasn't got enough box tops yet."
In the guard you could have all the points and time, but there had to be a slot open to move into a nco.
Too bad no one cares about the guard.
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Same with the Marine Corps. E-4 (corporal) is where the competitive promotions start, not to mention the USMC last year increased the minimum time in grade from 8 months to 12. So now promotions in the Corps takes even longer.
zak ellefson Thats funny since the Guard makes up 60% of the combat strength for the Department of the Army and sad the Army Reserves make up 75% of the total Combat Support Services for the Army. Think of it like this, if it wasn't for Guard members and the battle buddies I had killed in Iraq, arrogant and ignorant Active component Troops would have been on extended deployments more in the early part of the Iraq war. Knuckle headed Active Duty personnel need to realize the Guard and Reserves have deployed and supported every major war and/or conflict OUR country has had, AND shed as much blood. Every service has it's problems, lazy, good for nothing personnel; but when it comes down to it it was the Milita, Guard, that was first and rolled this pony before the United States was even a country.
amjackson1975 that's funny because they might make up 60% of the numbers but I know for sure they don't make up 60% of the strength.
zak ellefson strength, total strength. See, that's why Soldiers like me are trained and educated in theses areas and instructed on the bigger picture and don't get lost in this sad dishonorable state of shitting on the one group that helps make up our whole 1% of the American population that make up, Active and Reserve, military force.
very well explained Im sure allot of young up comers will be assisted by this thank you Sgt.
Good job on your video you gave just enough detail to make it technical anicole and easy to understand but not so technical that a civilian could not understand hope this you more of your videos rock on
Specialist may fill an NCO job, but they are not junior NCOs, but a corporal is a junior NCO even though the pay grade is the same. Corporals are always senior to specialists.
L CC When I was in there was specialist rank as a technical rank and hard rank starting at corporal. As for the difference between responsibilities, I would have gladly let an e4 hard rank lead assigned duties like orderly room or change of guard but that never happened.
Your right. But, there is not many corporal in army when I was in.
Corporal is a very underused rank in the army.
And Corporal is more often found in combat arms MOS.
ONLY!
Important thing to note about this video: it is intended to give a Civilian that might be curious about enlisted rank in the Army a basic understanding with a little in depth explanation. There are several more factors that can effect promotion but I wanted to keep it somewhat basic. Also yes, E-1 is a pay grade and Sergeant is a rank. Again, I did not want to make this too complicated than it need to be to give a basic understanding of enlisted rank in the Army.
My father was a First Sargeant (E8), I remember him telling me about his days in the academy, he was born in 1966......and after he finished high-school, including graduating, he left straight for the military academy.......I didn´t spend much time with my father in my childhood.....but I feel honoured he made it to First Sargeant.....now he´s retired, and fat.
He also was a radiocommunications officer, morse codes, telegraphs...ETC. Not sure how that works. (Hoping you could help me with that). After that he was titled to being an enginner, (electrical engineer,) a mechanic too, and an electronist, afterwards he was slected as suitable for use of heavy machinery during a special course.
I don´t really know if he got any medals, suppose he must have, since he was promoted rather quickly :/. But I haven´t seen them, they´re probably rusting off in some old chest, typicall of him.
He had a small store, too, didn´t go well, the state demolished it to build more houses.....and he never got the money back :(
troop, company and battery for artillery. great video. army 1997-2000
in the UK ar wo1 and 2 can be a Sgt maj and staff Sgt can be a c Sgt to find out more go to the British army website
Sergeants generally run the day to day business of the army.
David Redington no they don't they drink and drive they do drugs they show up late they sexual assault other soldiers and set their own kids on fire. the rank that does the day to day work is the specialist the sergeant is always a worthless piece of garbage that got moved up to move them out. Because they are terrible
Thanks for the video. I was in the infantry for 17years. It really brings back memories, bro
Great video! Very interesting for an old guy like me. MY E1 pay was $90 per month. The ranks above Sgt Maj were interesting as I had never herd of them, much less ever seen one.The only real change was that a PFC had a single stripe (no rocker) and the spec ranks went higher - spec 5 - spec 6 etc. Thanks again for the info.
the problem with trying to compare the pay is the fact that most people don't realize that includes room and board, so $1400 a month is awesome when you don't have $1000 for rent and another $500 or so for food...
Till 1958 only E1 to E-7. 2 ranks were added.
When I joined the Army in the early 1980's they were just getting rid of the Spec 5 rank. Don't know why they didn't get rid of the Spec 4 rank also. They talked about doing it in the late 80's but didn't follow through.
60 college credits will also grant you PFC (E-3) upon joining. At least that's how it was for me when i joined in 2008.
Travis if you went to military high school you were a PFC(E2) as soon as you entered the services...Pres Trump had he chosen to go in to the service out of high school (NYMA) he would have been an E2...Notice our Commander in Chief is well to salute when required passing the colors or acknowledging a salute.
Travis still the same
Travis does it have to be from a Military School? Or can it also be from Like Community or State College.
Any accredited college credits will do. Also a correction to my original post. 30-45 college credits got you PFC, then 60 credits (bachelor degree) got you SPC E-4
Thank you for your service
At least when I was in, another name for E-1 was Recruit. In essence, if you are in a basic MOS (say infantry or artillery) you will get promoted to E-2 about two months after completing your initial entry trainng (Basic and AIT). You have been exposed to most of what you need to know, but you lack practice. The pay sounds low, but you get your meals free, your housing free, and you have very little time to spend it, as the drill sergeants keep you hopping until you are too tired to spend your money. Some of the more advanced specialties such as radar repairer can keep you in AIT for a year, so you may get one or two promotions before actually getting out of AIT. (Note also that there are several ways you can start at a higher level than E-1, such as persuading a couple of friends to join with you (Stripes for Buddies) Of course, your friends may never speak to you again, but you have rank on them so . . .
Well this is a nice little break down I could have used when I took my current job 2 1/2 years ago. Former Navy, currently working as an archaeologist on an army base. Learning the ranks of other branches was never a priority for me since I almost never had to interact with them. Only ranks I know are Specialist and Sergeant.
When I went into the Army we were making $67.00
A year? Thank you for defeating the Redcoats!
Inflation?
Wtf lol
@@Bringmeoneofthosechickens wrong war. He fought the woolly mammoths
Great vid, but that background music tho. Drove me nuts.
Hahaha
That is crazy. My first job with a BS and working in grad school was less than a private. All the work, and no pay. And I kid you not, looking to go into the army with a PhD in the sciences, the best they would offer was an Specialist rank. All my Army friends told me the recruiter was smoking crack and I would be a dumb ass if I took anything less than a commission. So Army never happened. Now I spend my Tuesdays eating lunch with a bunch of retired military guys. Great video.
Informative video, thanks. The criteria for getting promoted has changed since I was in the US Army decades ago, the ranks were pretty much the same except different types of units used different chevrons on their uniforms. For example, US Army infantry didn't use "Specialists" chevrons to display their pay grade, they only used stripes. They were all "command" designations because infantry typically were in combat zones. Other types of units that were not the first line of deployment, such as Engineer outfits used Specialist insignias because they were not combat ready units and were not infantry, but support units that aided front line units, such as Infantry. The Time in Grade required to get promoted is longer now than what it was when I was in the Army, but there was still a time in grade requirement before a soldier could be considered for a promotion. Serving in the US Army made me grow up faster, we all had to stand on our own two feet. In hindsight, it was a good life experience, although I didn't think so back then. Thanks for sharing!
I knew a Division Sergeant Major that hated officers with a dying passion only officer I ever seen him salute was the Division Commander a Major General...... No officer screwed with him ... rank does have its privileges.
He'd of NEVER made it as a Marine.
Division CSMs salute Division Commander and above. If they feel like it 😂
@@sunnybeaches1331 he was a Division CSM. Most Marines dont even stay in after their first contract sooooo
@@TommyTombstone UHHH...WELLLL...
There's a lot more different types of sergeant than I thought there were
Thank you for your service to our country and our nation I like you just the way you are you made this day a special day by just you being you and I thank you tirelessly for your dedication to our country I would risk my life to protect you after all you protected our freedom and liberty and I thank you so very much for giving up your freedom for our safety love thy veterans and love the veterans of the United States
When you showed Staff Sergeant of the Army, I saw 1000 epic things in his gaze.
I'm here because of Arma 3. I thought the Corporal sounded cool when players were discussing about it so I was curious lol
When you're an E4 and an acting squad leader I failed my sham shield😔
Hey I found your video to be pretty insightful and informative keep them coming
Love the videos bro and thank you for your service.
Back in the day in 1980, my $580.00 dollars a month, I thought that was so awesome. I am glad troops today get paid better, hooah.
Thank you for your service and to the rest on here also. I appericate everyone's sacrifices
I am from South Africa and love everything to do with the US military and have got to understand the rank structure of all branches and cadet ranks as well.
I remember back in the mid-'80s when I was in; my MOS (16D) was so overcrowded that our promo points were 999 points. Max all your scores and you still had maybe 700 points, do all the extra training you could take and get max (maybe) another 100 points. We had probably 8 out of 10 people in my unit all spec 4's.
Very interesting, very clear.
Now I know what Ernie Bilko had to go through, thanks.
Made E-5 in 1yr 6mo. Going before the Board was nerve wracking but do-able. Took the job seriously. Made it home from Nam, Moved on. Time enlisted seemed like a lifetime when I was young. wish I stayed for the 20yrs but didn't like being stateside.
I made E-5 in 13 months during the Vietnam war. Rank is much easier to advance during wartime. At least it was back then. Went in in 67 and made 76 dollars a month as an E-1. It wasn't much, even with room, board, medical, etc. Being in Special Services helped with advancing. I wasn't in infantry & have all the respect in the world for those guys.
In the danish army there are three private ranks (Private PFC and Lance Corporal equivalent) indicated by 1-3 horizontal lines paralelle to each other, the fuzzies have a single thinner line and Corporals and Sergeants have the same shape as your E3 insignia but with varying amounts of "mosquito wing" or "rockers", we just call the mosquito wings "a psychological break/snap" and the "rocker" is a "piss-trough" (like a urinal) because first you snap, then you piss your life away in middle-management.