Ngl when he says that the hanzo mouse keeps getting stuck on the ground I think that's him turning off the cheats. If you look the ONLY person he is using cheats on is widow everyone else is just playing naturally. He legit doesn't use walls or aimbot on a single other person but widow all game lol
@nanashichi9774 yeah when it's other characters that ARENT the widow he is actually missing shots and it's his real aim which btw is pretty damn good. But on the widow it's aimbot. I 100% think he legit is only cheating just to counter the widow
No because these are the "nuh-uh I'm invincible" kids but fully grown and given free reign. They literally can't handle not being perfect and winning all the time so they'd rather ruin it for everyone else involved
U see cheaters in the lower ranks and highest ranks the most. Lower rank cheaters just cant stand losing And the higher ranked cheaters often have to much money and time and even worse if you make money from playing the game by lets say streaming then you could even afford higher quality cheats that never will be detected as you still end up making more money as without the cheats there is no streaming career.
I feel like this sentiment happens so often in blizzard games. Maybe all AAA games. Always becomes profits and share holders over the consumer experience.
@@Sxnderjyden so i guess that gives excuse to shit all over the revenue and popularity they made from this free to play game. Edit: they being blizzard Not flats.
Its crazy how they have a bot to ban people for "inappropriate communications" faster then they do for genuine cheaters. I hate that I enjoy the game because watching it burn hurts even more.
I mean a slur is easy to detect and there isnt an excuse for it. You dont even need to review it. If a program doesnt get detected by the anti cheat it has to be manually reviewed after receiving enough reports.
@@iamcool544 I mean its as simple as having a client side anti-cheat rather than a server side like ow. The way these programs work is by access the WinAPI and accessing the info stored in RAM. Just have an anti-cheat that detects if memory safety is off and dont let them play. Really as simple as that especially with the WinAPI and the windows sdk.
I'm going to play comp once they do a huge ban wave. I fell so much due to playing against Sombra and Widows with excellent tracking and there is no teamwork to even make it hard for them.
I adore the fact these two are so deadset on targeting each other that they're barely impacting the match. The moment these two are on the map, their teams have a 4v4 team fight on each point.
"No one gives a f*ck about integrity in this game anymore, everyone plays to win at all times" That hit me hard ngl... that's why I can't play ranked too much, my anxiety just goes through the roof because of this :')
REAL. Overwatch is no longer relaxing and fun to play, my heart rate and anxiety are through the roof when I do comp. I never talk or strategize or make jokes in VC anymore because the randos think everything is a personal attack. On the rare occasion that I play with my boyfriend and gaming buddies, they just get tilted because they don't know all the characters anymore and OW is impossible to enjoy if you don't know every single ability in the game.
It's why I switched from OW to Paladins... Paladins is dead enough that people who play are either new (checking out a free game) or casual and don't care too too much Most of the toxic players are players who've been playing for a long ass time
For anyone wondering about the melee, Overwatch defaults the Melee button to mouse 4 which is really closer to toggle switches on many mice like the Logitech ones. I've accidentally hit melee when I move up or down my sensitivity if I alt tab or change characters.
I accidentally do it because of how I hold my mouse 😂 I hate it so much. Had to train a new mouse grip. Luckily I play tank so no reason to not melee sometimes I guess
They should just make separate cheater lobbies. If they want to run bots and walls they can play in a full game of people running the same stuff. Don't ban them so they know it's time to VPN and make a new account just put them in bad behavior lobbies like in R6
call of duty does that. It's called shadowbanning. People who cheat get put in lobbies with other cheaters. The issue with that is that sometimes people who are legit would get put in shadowbanned lobbies.
@@PopThatOrder66the point of a shadow ban is to not let the cheater know they’ve been caught, and let them burn their little cheating steam off on other losers in cheater only games. Though someone else brings up the downside of this solution, genuinely good players can be put into these shadow banned lobbies and have their experience ruined.
The baffling thing to me is that if you're so bad at aiming, you could play like 15 other heroes that require less/no aiming skill. That's the thing about overwatch specifically. You do not have to be able to aim well to get to Masters, even GM. THERE ARE SO MANY HEROES THAT DO NOT REQUIRE GOD LEVEL AIM. Yet here we are...
The problem with ban waves is that it allows cheaters to continue cheating for several weeks without getting banned, rather than being banned instantly and not getting to play at all. It emboldens them to continue cheating in the future
That's a really good point. If they get to play for a few weeks they're more motivated to find other cheats. They get banned instantly they might actually realise it was a waste of money
ultimately its better long run tho. You gotta lure the rats out of their hole with the cheese so the mousetrap can get em. Given they have said IP bans are on the table, this WILL cut the cheaters down, there will always be some but having to circumvent an IP ban is a serious hurdle at least.
It lets cheaters play for a little longer but it overall works better. PirateSoftware explained in a video that ban waves are used because it helps prevent the cheat developer from knowing how it was detected and give them a whole bunch of angry customers to deal with at once.
With blatant cheats yeah an instant ban makes sense. Otherwise, no, ban waves are better for keeping cheaters away for sometime. Cheaters are gonna cheat.
The issue with instant banning is it allows the cheat makers to toggle cheats on one by one until the account gets banned. Thus telling them what cheat codes they need to modify in real time. By doing ban waves the idea is the cheat providers then have to dissect the anti cheat to discover what got their code flagged. Cheats will always be a game of cat and mouse where the game devs are having to react on the back foot.
Hey guys, It's me Sesuko I know my aim and awareness is good but call me a cheater? come on... Now for real... that guy is not me and I don't know why he has my name, btw, good video Flats :D
I'm glad that someone is bringing a bit of awareness that cheats dont always look like aimbotting. every time you try to call one out people try to gaslight you into you are just bad and is just your ego hurting, but that's the thing, nowadays cheat look really natural, and unless you analyze them at 0.1 like flats is doing is really difficult to see anything, apart that someone with no skins/icon/title on a gold lobby playing like shit but with a better aim than the pros in the OWL. so frustrating...
Yeah most cheaters aren't going to be ragehacking like this and I always get weirded out when people play devil's advocate for cheaters just because the aim isn't the most blatant thing ever. Like what are they gaining by doing that lol
usually when people melee randomly, its because they have a cheat menu open and their melee hotkey is the same one the use to toggle the cheat menu options. it used to be like that in call of duty back in the day
Free play isn't the problem, the problem is blizzard is lazy and doesn't care. It's not the games fault it's failing. It's on the company that refuses to actually change the game to not host cheaters, and terrible balance
That is such a bad response to hacks... "i only have cheats in case the other team cheats" but then proceeds to flick them on as soon as he gets killed. i have seen SO many players go from noob aim to top 500 aim after losing the first team fight and respawning with hacks on. Cheating is cheating no matter your excuse, don't sink to their level.
@flats About the melee thing at 8:55. I have my melee key on my mouse where my thumb rest. When panic ensues, I could accidentally press it, but I’m not sure about other people’s melee key binds
I've got my melee bound the same way, just because it's so much easier to click in a pinch. I've changed mouses since I originally bound it like that, and my current mouse makes it so much easier to accidentally hit it whenever my thumb so much as twitches. lol But it's also entirely possible aimbotters have a toggle bound to their melee button just to potentially be "less sus" if/when called out for cheating.
This is definitely something I've noticed in cheater vods though, I was so happy to hear Flats mention it because I've been wondering about it for a while but never heard it acknowledged until now. They do singular melees at random times that don't make sense in the context. Legit players (myself included) melee randomly plenty, too, but we will hit it more than once, and it will be at a time where we are in an idling mode like walking from spawn or something. So it there is still some "logic" to it. Btw I also have my melee bound to the same place! (It's on 5, which is in the middle of the gaming mouse's numpad where my thumb is.)
@@karamei There is absolutely 0 correlation to meleeing with cheaters, most of the internal cheats have their menu bound to insert or a key that has no action bound in-game.
@@greatbritain1799 Triggers are usually on melee, spray and emote. Why u think u see so many people spray all the time in higher Elo's? Like toggles are bound to action keys because if u keep pressing a unregistered button all the time in overwatch consistently then you are kinda self reporting.
i have never in my life watched any cheater rewiev in overwatch but this vidoe got me crying and gasping for air from laughter. the slow deterioration into madness is just so funny
8:20 finally someone says it!!! I've noticed this "random singular melee" behavior in so many cheater vods and have wondered if there must be something bound to V (I think that is the default melee - I have it rebound) in their cheat program or something like that. Or maybe the act of meleeing. It's funny because I'll occasionally randomly spam melee too, but that's the thing. I spam it, and usually during times of idling or like walking out of spawn because I'm bored and want to hit buttons. They always use it ONCE at a time, and at weird times. So I've been convinced for a while that there's something to this theory but I've never heard anyone else mention it until now.
i sometimes melee once after reloading on widow and ana because forever ago (like, years) there was an animation canceling with reload into melee tip. it turned out to not be true (or at the very least it's so minute it doesn't matter) but i havent been able to shake it lol but sleep/nade for ana DOES technically make her reload faster. if you throw either while she's in the animation, when she reattempts it's significantly faster! super niche but i've saved my rein a couple times with it
The Something with the Melee is the toggle, had a soldier who had it bound to his crouch key in a game the other day, crouch to toggle on and off. most use melee as it is common button to hit.
30:44 the moment Flats went insane. but seriously, i never thought you guys would get to this point, my side of the bridge being TF2 our problem has been general neglect as its been in the development graveyard for years now, OW is still in active development, you still have a full dev team, and your dealing with THIS IN THE HIGHER TIER GAMES.
Does overwatch even have community servers. Cause as bad as it is in tf2. At least you can avoid them there. Here I legit don't know if you can set up personal defenses for it
@@legojay14nah ow is more developer-fed There are community made game modes via custom games but very little play those, and almost never someone plays seriously. Mainly because average QP/ranked isnt that bad most of the time. And you get less leavers in a game where nearly each fight matters a lot and every player has 15-20% responsibility of the team, being down a player is detrimental to success and winning with a leaver is very, very heard. TF2 you jump in play a bunch and leave, nobody cares cause of all the goofiness and stuff, OW/2 you wait in queue and expect a game to play out till the end with all the players actually trying to win. Expect here might be a bit of a stronger word, but you wish for it to happen.
@@legojay14 for your question, yes and no. it does somewhat but you have to go looking for them and they are usually the modded games. however the TF2 community servers are NOT safe from the bots. if you have heard of Uncletopia, its one of the biggest community servers in the game, and its even been getting attacked by the bots. (also a side note the bots are now doing virus links in the chat via CP*** ads)
Don’t know how to tell y’all this, but a game becoming a playground for cheaters is pretty much the single most historically well known sign that a game can be called “dead”. TF2 sends regards.
It's sad, I wish Blizzard cared more about their games. I remember actually enjoying OW1 when me and my friends first got it. But the hacker/cheater situation just kept growing and I fell out of it cause it felt like every match I was the only one not cheating. I would love to get into OW2 but the situation has only intensified and I am not eager to interact with those people again.
"What happened to the game I love?" this sums up my feelings on the current state of overwatch. I really hope that this hotfix today addresses some of these issues but I'm not holding my breath.
i have a comment on the melee thing, it most likely is that the aim key is in their side mouse buttons and some people usually keep their melee in there too. in a panic you might either confuse the buttons or press both at the same time
Someone please calculate the Cheater+Cheats to Flats Emotional Outburst Ration. Its so funny seeing him at the beginning like: Yeah i dont ussually do this....maybe...ill do another. [25 minutes Later] "BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET EM RIP
Typically cheat menus in game have a combination of keys you don’t often press to open the menu (this is usually crouching or melee added together so they can also be used by someone who might choose to be playing on controller) that’s why you notice the players seemingly randomly meleeing, it opens the cheat menu so they can make adjustments which works as an overlay in the game
@@LuciferthekingofpurgitoryI haven’t played in a week but last time I played I got 2 cheaters in a day, which is two too many for a billion dollar company’s game.
sesuko is using a triggerbot, thats why theyre "micro adjusting" their aim, theyre just flaying their their crosshair over their opponent trying to get over the head hitbox. these cheats also typically have a "fire when able to kill the target" in case you see weird shots that arent headshots as for the issues with it suddenly starting to miss. they may have attempted to turn on a silent aim, but are trying to give inputs while their cheat is taking control, resulting in overcompensation churchill is using very obvious walls and a projectile aimbot. at 14:52 you can see that the arrow doesnt even come close to lining up with the crosshair understanding what different cheats look like it 90% of knowing how to identify who is cheating, who is lucky, and who is just good
27:28 Precisely. Cheaters don't want to get caught. It's subtle. 10% improvement alone is huge. Anything with the intelligence of a walnut can do a lot with that boost. These two though.. wow. Fragile little egos.
Jajaja wtf! Sesuko is a Spanish OW UA-camr. Actually he made a video reaction of this video. If I wanna see, some formative ow videos, that youtuber is too good. Nice day folks
i think the melee thing is to break the tracking. you notice how they was tracking the lucio in overtime, but after the shot and melee they was able to look around freely
i honestly love this, its gonna help point out whats happening to the game and also give us entertainment with the "weeeeeeeeee". bring back spectating cheaters pls
It does not matter how much you report them, there are so many. Last game I played widow was clicking heads no matter what my teammates did to los or avoid engaging. In the low ranks, it's just rediculous
I love these videos but it’s so sad to see that this is a regular thing that happens I was at my mates place and he doesn’t play comp to often but the times he does this is what happens and he’s not even high elo it’s so sad
11:50: It stopped working cause the cheater's cheat-subscription ran out, so when you see them go afk, it's because they're tabbed out trying to renew it. 😆
you know what makes it better? all of the hanzo dragons were targetted directly at the widow, EVERY SINGLE TIME.
was def rooting for hanzo in this (as muchq as one can root for a cheater)
Ngl when he says that the hanzo mouse keeps getting stuck on the ground I think that's him turning off the cheats. If you look the ONLY person he is using cheats on is widow everyone else is just playing naturally. He legit doesn't use walls or aimbot on a single other person but widow all game lol
I almost thought he was only cheating to kill the widow. He might’ve but it doesn’t seem like it.
@@Coffeecan1981I saw that too, I’m pretty sure he is
@nanashichi9774 yeah when it's other characters that ARENT the widow he is actually missing shots and it's his real aim which btw is pretty damn good. But on the widow it's aimbot. I 100% think he legit is only cheating just to counter the widow
I cannot believe this entire duel started because the widow missed their first 3 shots and literally couldn't take it
Honestly it's equivalent to a child throwing a tantrum
I think the other cheater taunted them as well
Cheaters have the most fragile egos
No because these are the "nuh-uh I'm invincible" kids but fully grown and given free reign. They literally can't handle not being perfect and winning all the time so they'd rather ruin it for everyone else involved
U see cheaters in the lower ranks and highest ranks the most.
Lower rank cheaters just cant stand losing
And the higher ranked cheaters often have to much money and time and even worse if you make money from playing the game by lets say streaming then you could even afford higher quality cheats that never will be detected as you still end up making more money as without the cheats there is no streaming career.
idk exactly why, but the "what happened to the game i loved" just hit different
I feel like this sentiment happens so often in blizzard games. Maybe all AAA games.
Always becomes profits and share holders over the consumer experience.
both Team Fortress 2 and Titanfall 2 and Counter Strike 2 fans are with you honey
Free to play
@@Sxnderjyden so i guess that gives excuse to shit all over the revenue and popularity they made from this free to play game.
Edit: they being blizzard
Not flats.
@@dogwiththumbs8392 you do not get it LOL if you ban them they make new account and stats over again for free
32:55 the enemy moira and friendly rein just chilling and protecting her from his own cassidy was too funny.
Dude I was DYING when you pointed that out LMAOOOO
it was the other way around but still funny
I love the sarcasm of "impeccable gameplay" "perfect triganometry"
They must be brain surgeons, with that much accuracy and coordination
@@jawsh_fan0319that doesnt correlate
@@clear-oi7usit totally does POS SOB😊
I mean it is perfect trigonometry cause a computer is doing it.😅
Its crazy how they have a bot to ban people for "inappropriate communications" faster then they do for genuine cheaters. I hate that I enjoy the game because watching it burn hurts even more.
Damn. This comment hits different.
I mean a slur is easy to detect and there isnt an excuse for it. You dont even need to review it. If a program doesnt get detected by the anti cheat it has to be manually reviewed after receiving enough reports.
@@iamcool544 I mean its as simple as having a client side anti-cheat rather than a server side like ow. The way these programs work is by access the WinAPI and accessing the info stored in RAM. Just have an anti-cheat that detects if memory safety is off and dont let them play. Really as simple as that especially with the WinAPI and the windows sdk.
@@iamcool544 Slurs sure but you get banned for saying "fucking idiot" so I dont know man
They aren't fighting 3rd-party programs when it comes to in-game chats.
I feel like Overwatch uses Flats to do their job of banning Cheaters
Bold of you to assume Overwatch bans the cheaters in Flats vids
Bold of you to assume Blizzard does anything
Imagine if Blizzard did anything at all.
Good luck with that. It's all automated buddy. And the guy that wrote that code is long gone
@@mindlessftw probably wrote it in COBOL 😂
3:53 had a chuckle seeing a 360 T-pose go from door to door
I love you for that
thank you for the comment XDD I went back and rewatched it, made my day 🤣😭
The Cassidy stretching at 8:26 is pretty good too lol
I noticed that too 😂 looks so goofy I love it
lol same. i thought "wait did that really just happen" i had to run it back to check lol
Lore accurate hanzo vs lore accurate widow
Accurate comment
Lore accurate comment
real
💀
Hanzo solos.
i wish replays had chat replays too cause id love to see it hahaha
i was thinking the exact same thing
If only they even record the chat so it's possible
Dota 2 does have chat replay
3 cheating videos in a week oh yeah we’re in the red with cheaters 💀
We are well past the red
Don’t forget to buy the next $40 skin that turn you into a walking AD 😂😂
Not as bad as TF2 is
Last sunday after only playing for 3 hours I played against 4 cheaters and played with 2 cheaters
6 cheaters game in only 3 hours, its unbelievable
I'm going to play comp once they do a huge ban wave. I fell so much due to playing against Sombra and Widows with excellent tracking and there is no teamwork to even make it hard for them.
I adore the fact these two are so deadset on targeting each other that they're barely impacting the match. The moment these two are on the map, their teams have a 4v4 team fight on each point.
yeah, totally fine match
Having the gaming chair ad pop up while flats reviews cheating vods is pure comedy
Around 24:00 when the cheating widow popped ult, rein held his shield up for mercy to get across the choke. HONOR AND GLORY
The “weeeee” during the spin botting part at the end confused our cat so much she ran out of the room panicking 😂
8:28 what da cowboy doin
He stanced up
the way he just flings off the screen in the end 🤣
He’s ascending. Let him cook
"No one gives a f*ck about integrity in this game anymore, everyone plays to win at all times" That hit me hard ngl... that's why I can't play ranked too much, my anxiety just goes through the roof because of this :')
most of the time i literally just play custom games against ai because its so stressful even to play unranked
@@verdorrt RIGHT?!
REAL. Overwatch is no longer relaxing and fun to play, my heart rate and anxiety are through the roof when I do comp. I never talk or strategize or make jokes in VC anymore because the randos think everything is a personal attack. On the rare occasion that I play with my boyfriend and gaming buddies, they just get tilted because they don't know all the characters anymore and OW is impossible to enjoy if you don't know every single ability in the game.
@@marinacroy1338 i’m sorry it’s so stressful for you :(. if you ever want someone to play with just hmu!!
It's why I switched from OW to Paladins... Paladins is dead enough that people who play are either new (checking out a free game) or casual and don't care too too much
Most of the toxic players are players who've been playing for a long ass time
Hazon: A gift, for you.
Widow: Ooh la la!
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Shoutout to both the mercy players hard pocketing the cheaters, classic
For anyone wondering about the melee, Overwatch defaults the Melee button to mouse 4 which is really closer to toggle switches on many mice like the Logitech ones. I've accidentally hit melee when I move up or down my sensitivity if I alt tab or change characters.
eh... cheats normally have auto-melee and is a dead giveaway.
I accidentally do it because of how I hold my mouse 😂 I hate it so much. Had to train a new mouse grip. Luckily I play tank so no reason to not melee sometimes I guess
They should just make separate cheater lobbies. If they want to run bots and walls they can play in a full game of people running the same stuff. Don't ban them so they know it's time to VPN and make a new account just put them in bad behavior lobbies like in R6
Or give unlimited dva bombs to all the players when a cheater is detected in a 7v1
call of duty does that. It's called shadowbanning. People who cheat get put in lobbies with other cheaters. The issue with that is that sometimes people who are legit would get put in shadowbanned lobbies.
Give them dunce hats and their own lobbies like in gta
Or people who are cheating get their dmg reduced to 1 no matter what they do. I'd love to see that
@@PopThatOrder66the point of a shadow ban is to not let the cheater know they’ve been caught, and let them burn their little cheating steam off on other losers in cheater only games. Though someone else brings up the downside of this solution, genuinely good players can be put into these shadow banned lobbies and have their experience ruined.
The baffling thing to me is that if you're so bad at aiming, you could play like 15 other heroes that require less/no aiming skill. That's the thing about overwatch specifically. You do not have to be able to aim well to get to Masters, even GM. THERE ARE SO MANY HEROES THAT DO NOT REQUIRE GOD LEVEL AIM. Yet here we are...
Definitely feels like a overall gaming cheater epidemic or something
No it’s an OW thing bc the devs worry more about selling $40 skins than the actual integrity of the game…
They're talking about Siege and I think TF2 cause it's just all over the Internet
@@Thirstylion314 nah all games have cheaters right now. Apex mostly but also fortnite r6 overwatch pubg cod its bad
dude apex, i'm d2 rn and holy the amount of ppl getting removed mid match 😂@@Thirstylion314
@@MasonMNKcs as well
“2-taps him off the 🤬ing WHEEEEEEE” is a quote for our time this season of overwatch.
The problem with ban waves is that it allows cheaters to continue cheating for several weeks without getting banned, rather than being banned instantly and not getting to play at all. It emboldens them to continue cheating in the future
That's a really good point. If they get to play for a few weeks they're more motivated to find other cheats. They get banned instantly they might actually realise it was a waste of money
ultimately its better long run tho. You gotta lure the rats out of their hole with the cheese so the mousetrap can get em. Given they have said IP bans are on the table, this WILL cut the cheaters down, there will always be some but having to circumvent an IP ban is a serious hurdle at least.
It lets cheaters play for a little longer but it overall works better. PirateSoftware explained in a video that ban waves are used because it helps prevent the cheat developer from knowing how it was detected and give them a whole bunch of angry customers to deal with at once.
With blatant cheats yeah an instant ban makes sense. Otherwise, no, ban waves are better for keeping cheaters away for sometime. Cheaters are gonna cheat.
The issue with instant banning is it allows the cheat makers to toggle cheats on one by one until the account gets banned. Thus telling them what cheat codes they need to modify in real time. By doing ban waves the idea is the cheat providers then have to dissect the anti cheat to discover what got their code flagged. Cheats will always be a game of cat and mouse where the game devs are having to react on the back foot.
The anti-cheat got laid off in the Microsoft merger
Hey guys, It's me Sesuko I know my aim and awareness is good but call me a cheater? come on...
Now for real... that guy is not me and I don't know why he has my name, btw, good video Flats :D
No cuela sesuko
Te pillaron Sesu
Te han pillado acéptalo ya sexuco
Sin vergüenza
if overwatch esports had an anime this is what the main character and the rival matches would look like lmfaooo
love a good enemies to lovers story. can't wait for the next episode
I'm glad that someone is bringing a bit of awareness that cheats dont always look like aimbotting.
every time you try to call one out people try to gaslight you into you are just bad and is just your ego hurting, but that's the thing, nowadays cheat look really natural, and unless you analyze them at 0.1 like flats is doing is really difficult to see anything, apart that someone with no skins/icon/title on a gold lobby playing like shit but with a better aim than the pros in the OWL.
so frustrating...
Yeah most cheaters aren't going to be ragehacking like this and I always get weirded out when people play devil's advocate for cheaters just because the aim isn't the most blatant thing ever. Like what are they gaining by doing that lol
Happens a lot over in CoD land and it is just "they're good at abusing rotational aim assist."
Like, no... no, they aren't.
flats out here speedrunning the five stages of grief in one video
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17:20......My favorite moment of this video when the Widow tries to melee punch the dragon. 🤣
this feels like a normal game that slowly descends into weird surreal horror over time.
I never thought that projectile weapons would have been aimbotted so well. Damn.
What a match, two players helping each other to reach higher levels of gameplay.
usually when people melee randomly, its because they have a cheat menu open and their melee hotkey is the same one the use to toggle the cheat menu options. it used to be like that in call of duty back in the day
Who would have thought this would happen when it went free to play? Weird.
Free play isn't the problem, the problem is blizzard is lazy and doesn't care. It's not the games fault it's failing. It's on the company that refuses to actually change the game to not host cheaters, and terrible balance
@@battel_bruser3928 It's part of the problem when you can keep creating accounts and cheating with no consequences.
And all the smurfs too
There are many free to play games that have a functioning anti cheat system.
Ummm not sure if you remember but when Overwatch 1 went dormant the games used to be filled with cheaters
That is such a bad response to hacks... "i only have cheats in case the other team cheats" but then proceeds to flick them on as soon as he gets killed. i have seen SO many players go from noob aim to top 500 aim after losing the first team fight and respawning with hacks on. Cheating is cheating no matter your excuse, don't sink to their level.
as soon as widow turns the cehats to 100% he just turns into Carl Wheezer. "oooh maann" lmao
Nah man, there was no cheating, that Hanzo player was actually just Hawkeye in his free time.
@flats
About the melee thing at 8:55.
I have my melee key on my mouse where my thumb rest. When panic ensues, I could accidentally press it, but I’m not sure about other people’s melee key binds
I've got my melee bound the same way, just because it's so much easier to click in a pinch. I've changed mouses since I originally bound it like that, and my current mouse makes it so much easier to accidentally hit it whenever my thumb so much as twitches. lol
But it's also entirely possible aimbotters have a toggle bound to their melee button just to potentially be "less sus" if/when called out for cheating.
This is definitely something I've noticed in cheater vods though, I was so happy to hear Flats mention it because I've been wondering about it for a while but never heard it acknowledged until now. They do singular melees at random times that don't make sense in the context. Legit players (myself included) melee randomly plenty, too, but we will hit it more than once, and it will be at a time where we are in an idling mode like walking from spawn or something. So it there is still some "logic" to it. Btw I also have my melee bound to the same place! (It's on 5, which is in the middle of the gaming mouse's numpad where my thumb is.)
@@karamei There is absolutely 0 correlation to meleeing with cheaters, most of the internal cheats have their menu bound to insert or a key that has no action bound in-game.
@@greatbritain1799 Triggers are usually on melee, spray and emote.
Why u think u see so many people spray all the time in higher Elo's? Like toggles are bound to action keys because if u keep pressing a unregistered button all the time in overwatch consistently then you are kinda self reporting.
@@Rrg45451 That's not how it works at all, How are you self reporting if you're pressing an action key that is unbound?
The Illiari spinning like a Sky Dancer when slowing down the footage😂
i have never in my life watched any cheater rewiev in overwatch but this vidoe got me crying and gasping for air from laughter. the slow deterioration into madness is just so funny
Flats missed it, but at 14:35 the Hanzo's aimbot locks onto the Lucio THROUGH THE WALL and he actually tries to fire at him xD
8:20 finally someone says it!!! I've noticed this "random singular melee" behavior in so many cheater vods and have wondered if there must be something bound to V (I think that is the default melee - I have it rebound) in their cheat program or something like that. Or maybe the act of meleeing. It's funny because I'll occasionally randomly spam melee too, but that's the thing. I spam it, and usually during times of idling or like walking out of spawn because I'm bored and want to hit buttons. They always use it ONCE at a time, and at weird times. So I've been convinced for a while that there's something to this theory but I've never heard anyone else mention it until now.
i sometimes melee once after reloading on widow and ana because forever ago (like, years) there was an animation canceling with reload into melee tip. it turned out to not be true (or at the very least it's so minute it doesn't matter) but i havent been able to shake it lol
but sleep/nade for ana DOES technically make her reload faster. if you throw either while she's in the animation, when she reattempts it's significantly faster! super niche but i've saved my rein a couple times with it
@@endless_del yeah there's logic to that usage though!
"What happened to the game I loved?"
It died when OW2 came out 💀
The Something with the Melee is the toggle, had a soldier who had it bound to his crouch key in a game the other day, crouch to toggle on and off. most use melee as it is common button to hit.
30:44 the moment Flats went insane.
but seriously, i never thought you guys would get to this point, my side of the bridge being TF2 our problem has been general neglect as its been in the development graveyard for years now, OW is still in active development, you still have a full dev team, and your dealing with THIS IN THE HIGHER TIER GAMES.
Does overwatch even have community servers. Cause as bad as it is in tf2. At least you can avoid them there. Here I legit don't know if you can set up personal defenses for it
I genuinely went "oh no we finally lost him"
@@legojay14nah ow is more developer-fed
There are community made game modes via custom games but very little play those, and almost never someone plays seriously. Mainly because average QP/ranked isnt that bad most of the time. And you get less leavers in a game where nearly each fight matters a lot and every player has 15-20% responsibility of the team, being down a player is detrimental to success and winning with a leaver is very, very heard.
TF2 you jump in play a bunch and leave, nobody cares cause of all the goofiness and stuff, OW/2 you wait in queue and expect a game to play out till the end with all the players actually trying to win. Expect here might be a bit of a stronger word, but you wish for it to happen.
@@legojay14 for your question, yes and no. it does somewhat but you have to go looking for them and they are usually the modded games.
however the TF2 community servers are NOT safe from the bots. if you have heard of Uncletopia, its one of the biggest community servers in the game, and its even been getting attacked by the bots. (also a side note the bots are now doing virus links in the chat via CP*** ads)
"Full dev team" is a stretch.
8:27 the cass slo mo roll got me so bad 💀
Don’t know how to tell y’all this, but a game becoming a playground for cheaters is pretty much the single most historically well known sign that a game can be called “dead”.
TF2 sends regards.
It's certantly more alive than that Russian bot farm were you come from.
"and he missed his helix rocket on a fg inanimate object!!!" lmao
“Perfectly geometry” that one Hanzo every time he sees the widowm
It's sad, I wish Blizzard cared more about their games. I remember actually enjoying OW1 when me and my friends first got it. But the hacker/cheater situation just kept growing and I fell out of it cause it felt like every match I was the only one not cheating. I would love to get into OW2 but the situation has only intensified and I am not eager to interact with those people again.
Anybody else think that mcree rolling at 8:25 is hilarious 😂
I was like “damn look at em gol
"What happened to the game I love?" this sums up my feelings on the current state of overwatch. I really hope that this hotfix today addresses some of these issues but I'm not holding my breath.
wait what hotfix?
@@springroll4421 my b, it was just battlenet launcher maintenance
copium, really. We always hope the next update or patch will fix it... It never does
It just gets progressively worse after each update, man. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I would give anything to have Overwatch 1 back.
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel same though. The game is degrading so much from what it used to be
Funny how the Hanzo was blind firing his ult at the spawn door the Widow was coming out of. Several times!
This Hanzo is straight up "YOU GOT CHEATS ILL SHOW YOU CHEATS!"
i have a comment on the melee thing, it most likely is that the aim key is in their side mouse buttons and some people usually keep their melee in there too. in a panic you might either confuse the buttons or press both at the same time
Someone please calculate the Cheater+Cheats to Flats Emotional Outburst Ration. Its so funny seeing him at the beginning like: Yeah i dont ussually do this....maybe...ill do another. [25 minutes Later] "BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET EM RIP
Typically cheat menus in game have a combination of keys you don’t often press to open the menu (this is usually crouching or melee added together so they can also be used by someone who might choose to be playing on controller) that’s why you notice the players seemingly randomly meleeing, it opens the cheat menu so they can make adjustments which works as an overlay in the game
Beyblade McCree is the most hilarious Overwatch thing I've ever seen!
My cat was offended by the “wee” sounds towards the end.
Mine too hahaha
Blizzard is truly the Diablo immortal of game developers
Its not only Blizzard... take a look at Apex state atm, CS and other shooters/ BR`s...
@@poemz87apex and CS are a million times better than Overwatch right now 😊
@@BigOwl51when’s the last time you had a cheater in your game?
@@LuciferthekingofpurgitoryI haven’t played in a week but last time I played I got 2 cheaters in a day, which is two too many for a billion dollar company’s game.
@@LuciferthekingofpurgitoryI’ve had cheaters every day in at least one match for the last 4 days not even CS was this bad
bro the looking down at the floor i busted out laughing
Flats glitched out at 9:00😂
Nah bro, it was a fast forward. 😂
Sidenote: I imagine you were joking and knew it was a time lapse.
Everyone needs to watch this video, so often people think "they're not cheating" but there are clear signs and flats explains them really well
sesuko is using a triggerbot, thats why theyre "micro adjusting" their aim, theyre just flaying their their crosshair over their opponent trying to get over the head hitbox. these cheats also typically have a "fire when able to kill the target" in case you see weird shots that arent headshots
as for the issues with it suddenly starting to miss. they may have attempted to turn on a silent aim, but are trying to give inputs while their cheat is taking control, resulting in overcompensation
churchill is using very obvious walls and a projectile aimbot. at 14:52 you can see that the arrow doesnt even come close to lining up with the crosshair
understanding what different cheats look like it 90% of knowing how to identify who is cheating, who is lucky, and who is just good
this is the average enemy Hanzo in my quick play games 😭
27:28 Precisely. Cheaters don't want to get caught. It's subtle. 10% improvement alone is huge. Anything with the intelligence of a walnut can do a lot with that boost. These two though.. wow. Fragile little egos.
Flats sounded like he was on helium this whole video. Bro was so bewildered 😂❤
30:16 That guy is pissed the hell off lmao
Hes seeing red
20:40 rein getting launched to mach speed 4
Jajaja wtf!
Sesuko is a Spanish OW UA-camr. Actually he made a video reaction of this video.
If I wanna see, some formative ow videos, that youtuber is too good.
Nice day folks
Apparently this is a hacker using his name.
it will never not be hilarious to me how easily bruised a cheater's ego is
Cheater vids are my favorite vids. I understand they aren't flat's favorite but I sure do love them.
i think the melee thing is to break the tracking. you notice how they was tracking the lucio in overtime, but after the shot and melee they was able to look around freely
I just love watching flats sm plus its on my birthday :)
birthday twiiins
Happy Birthday!
@@Mscristagalli thaaaanks
@@Mscristagalli thank u😁
It seemed like for the most part Hanzo was half firing when it wasn’t widow. The only one he wanted to off was widow and I love that
Sesuko? That's a famous Spanish overwatch streamer XD
I believe that is a random cheater that uses his name with a brand new account because doesn't own any skin or gold weapon
He is an imposter, Sesuko likes Ashe more and uses skins xd
i honestly love this, its gonna help point out whats happening to the game and also give us entertainment with the "weeeeeeeeee". bring back spectating cheaters pls
1:15 that's me.
I panic melee click sometimes. I press to hard on the joystick and it clicks.
28:31 mercy’s face is what every overwatch players face looks like every game
8:28 😂 i love how i have never seen slowmo Mcassidy roll. He's majestic.
BRO the Rein at 20:40 turned into a Raptor Jet just nyooom
YEET
New to OW so its always cool seeing vids from ya and DANG the editor's choice in osts are awesome❤
Came back from a weekend away to see the majority of OW vids be about rampant cheating and complaints about the game in general 😂
It does not matter how much you report them, there are so many.
Last game I played widow was clicking heads no matter what my teammates did to los or avoid engaging. In the low ranks, it's just rediculous
Bro cheaters really not getting banned anymore, im getting more in my games tooo
Petition to call a spinbotting Cass, a jellyfish cuz that's what he looks like spinning so fast
Flats vs Drums
*GO*
Drums for maximum dipping efficiency
@@vanishhero964yes but, flats for maximum meatage.
That Rein went flying at 20:39 XD
I hate it when you're wiping an your finger pokes through the toilet paper. Ruined my morning.
I noticed at the start of this year a slow but steady rise in cheaters, which was when I stopped playing because I KNEW this would happen.
I love these videos but it’s so sad to see that this is a regular thing that happens I was at my mates place and he doesn’t play comp to often but the times he does this is what happens and he’s not even high elo it’s so sad
11:50: It stopped working cause the cheater's cheat-subscription ran out, so when you see them go afk, it's because they're tabbed out trying to renew it. 😆
all this and they wont get banned but i will get banned for asking my team to counter swap
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Gotta love the no team pocket mercy who knows they hack but still goes along for the free game win
just amazing this game has become
Flats not noticing the cass floating at 8:26 only made it funnier