James Gunn responds to the SUPERMAN flying BACKLASH. Do you like his answer?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Warner Bros and the new DCU release a clip for TV of the new Superman. There were a lot of negative comments on the Superman flying scene. Director and Co-CEO of DC James Gunn responded to the criticism. Do you like the response? Agatha All Along was rumored to have a second season. A new report says maybe not. Senestro for Lanterns has been cast? Rumors on what trailers will debut on Superbowl Sunday. Nolan news TV picks and more on The Kristian Harloff with Kristian and Roxy!
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This captain America conversation is everything wrong with people today. Everyone’s minds have been BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR by culture war nonsense. Mackie gave the most lukewarm, basic explanation of captain America and people immediately start taking it in the worst way. Cap in the MCU DOES NOT REPRESENT A COUNTRY. He represents being a good man always willing to do the right thing. It’s a set of ideals for us to aspire to. In every captain America movie there is either a scene or it’s the PREMISE OF THE PLOT where captain m is defying America. The first avenger literally criticizes the idea of Cap being used as propaganda. The other reality is that there are a bunch of dishonest “anti woke” propagandists that were already looking to tear this movie down and are purposefully taking it the wrong way.
I really wish that more people like you had your ideals and ways of looking at context as opposed to just making blank statements about something without any additional research into it. I have all the love in the world for Roxy and Kristian but their conversation about his comments, just speaks to the idea that they did not care enough to look into what it is. He actually meant, nor did they have an understanding of the character itself to give context to his comments in a much broader way. No one has any good media literacy anymore and it’s all just about giving a quick reaction to something and also for some reason caring so much about the PR of it all. Who cares if a small group of people get offended like the ones that you mentioned in your comment? They weren’t going to see the movie because they’re losers, they don’t actually care about entertainment, they only care about it for how it will financially benefit them.
Sam the character following Captain America Steve Rogers were literally American outlaws in both civil war, Infinity war. I thought Kristian just saw that movie and would be able to help explain Mackie speaking about what the character represents not Mackie, because Mackie was speaking for the character only.
People who made this an issue, are the same people that have an issue with the movie and him becoming Captain America to begin with. Plus don't even understand the character... The trailers show him having problems with the US President for this movie.
100% agree. I dont understand how people don't get it
The internet is no place for rational thought 😂
What it boils down to is Captain America encapsulates the era he was created and it’s values. Modern day America has changed with people who have different values, and he wants to project that onto the character. Which goes to my initial point of, if you don’t like him, then do something else. Why are creators constantly changing characters we’ve loved for decades, make something new if you don’t like it.
Regarding Mackie’s answer - He was saying that Cap doesn’t represent the United States as a country. Cap represents the values, idealism, aspiration of what it could be. Cap owns the flag because he won’t let it be sullied by lesser men.
Bingo
Man, I really wish that this was brought up in the conversation because it just feels so lacking that the actual conversation that’s brought up in the video had more to do with the PR of it all as opposed to what he actually was saying in his context.
Steve Rogers literally died as Steve Rogers not Captain America. Prior to the snap he gave up his shield as he no longer believed it was his duty to fight for America and was on the run from his own country for years. The man who made the Avengers outlaws is now President. Did Kristian forget that? I mean he literally just rewatched Winter Soldier and Civil War lololol. America was literally infiltrated by Hydra.
He could've mentioned something about freedom, that woulda been nice. That was the #1 thing Steve stood for
But his name is Captain America lol
I now like Mackie a whole lot more. I’m delighted that almost everyone in the comments today didn’t take the bait in wanting to “boycott” his upcoming Captain America movie just because of a few of his words during an interview. I’m so tired of Rage Bait articles. I’m expecting lots more of those the closer we get to the Snow White release date.
Yep. The irony of Kristian not taking the rage bait with regard to Superman /in this very video/, then proceeding to fall for it during the Cap 4 segment was also annoying.
Kristian, I have a hard time with your take on the Anthony Mackie thing. Especially since Winter Soldier and Civil War are some of your favorites in the MCU. Steve Roger's entire arc in the MCU was going from a propaganda figure used by America to someone who fights for his principals even when that goes against the wishes of his government. Falcon and Winter Soldier had Sam's character struggling with becoming a symbol for a country with a racially problematic past, who persecuted his people in the past, that's what the entire Isaiah Bradley arc was about. This is not Anthont Mackie bringing in personal politics. It's in the writing of his character and essential to the entire Captain America franchise. Of course this is not OUR America. But THIS America was infiltrated by Hydra. THIS President, Harrison Ford's character, arrested Steve Rogers and the other Avengers for not capitulating to their government's demands. This America gave the mantle of Captain America to John Walker. I just don't see how anything he said is contradictory to either Steve or Sam's character arcs, and I'm willing to bet that this movie continues a lot of the same themes. I mean he literally has to fight an out of control Giant Red Monster who is the President. If this movie is pro-Nationalism why is the president the villain? I think maybe youre looking at it from the wrong perspective and dont wanna bite your face off, but maybe try to examine it from a story perspective. The America in the MCU is not portrayed as a noble, honest or heroic thing. They've done nothing but stand in opposition to our heroes since they tried to take Tony Starks suit, imprisoned Thor and Hulk, refused to , developed secret weapons using an infinity stone, put Nick Fury on trial for the events of The Avengers, and so on and so forth.
Well said!!!!
I listened to John Campea talk about the Mackie story too and Kristian seems to be missing a lot of what Mackie said. I agree with Campea’s take on this one more than Kristian. That being said this will not affect it at all. They complained about Barbie before it came out and when it came out and it crushed it at the box office.
Kristian just needed a topic for his show. Gave 0 thought to this.
Then gave zero thought to the fact that the report of the 180 million for the budget is the only credible outlet that has given a number. The others came from fan theories about reshoots. Jeff Snyder said they will be extensive reshoots in 2023 that would last from January to May. That wasn't true. They did like 22 days to add giancarlo esposito character and action shots. Marvel budgets reshoots and this is a very grounded movie. Probably a few flight scenes and red hulk
@@godfr012There is no world where the budget is only $180 million.
congrats to you for being another campea disciple who can't think for themselves
@@R17759 great insight. Why? They're not going out of space 🚀
@@IndianaJake maybe you shouldn't think for yourself 🤣
I doubt Mackie’s comments will hurt the movie. The people that seem to be most upset are the UA-cam channels and snowflakes who love to hate on all things Disney. They probably wouldn’t have seen the movie anyway.
They guy who stalks UA-camrs is trying to dunk on people who don't like Disney slop.😂
@ stalks?
@EleventhCubFan I mean, you pay UA-camrs to answer questions about their personal lives. That's not normal.
@@EnglishLuke no more than other people. Guess you haven’t been here long
@EleventhCubFan Dude, stop asking UA-camrs about their nieces. It's fuckin weird. Learn some real social skills.
At the end of the day, the people out there who claim they aren't going to see CA:BNW because of Mackies comments, probably weren't going to see it anyways. Some people out there just get offended by everything, it's pathetic.
that part! And a lot of people are misrepresenting the quote. He was in Rome trying to get appeal to a broader audience cuz he was in a different country.
@chriB265 exactly, why would people in Europe care if the movie is representative of America 😂, they want to know if it's got an appealing story outside of what it's name would suggest!
I get the feeling think this movie was going to underperform regardless (tracking appears to be going down week by week). Sadly, I wouldnt put it pass Disney to put some of the blame on Mackie if it does flop, rather than on themselves. Similar to how Iger threw Nia DaCosta under the bus for the Marvels.
I’m sorry I’m going to say it for what it is, if you got upset at Anthony Mackie’s comments about what Captain America means to him, then number one, you need a reality check, two, you don’t know what the character is, but three you’re just as ignorant as you seem to be when it comes to understanding media literacy of general entertainment. He didn’t say “the name Captain America is stupid”. That’s not what he said!! And for some reason, it feels like everyone and their mother is receiving those comments like that’s what he meant. If you know the character of Cap, you would know that what Anthony said is 100% true at least with regards to how the MCU version has been portrayed. Steve Rogers held those ideals so well, he was never pro America, he was pro doing the right thing with integrity. I’m being serious when I say this, people need to grow a spine and actually make their own opinions. Stop always resorting to the most egregious thing possible first.
Thank you
maybe calm down a little. Cap in the mcu has stood for freedom above all, so Mackie could've at least mentioned that. His comments weren't that bad but they come across generic and a bit ignorant
Captain America not being Pro-America when his name is literally Captain America is the dumbest statement ever and makes no sense. Not being Pro-America automatically means you're anti-America. America's values and beliefs are objectively good and promote freedom, equality, doing the right thing, etc. Cap is the embodiment of America and its values. Most people that openly admit and proudly say that they hate America are American democrats, and yet they still decide to live in America which is hilarious. America is such a great country that even the people who hate it refuse to leave or live somewhere else 😂
@@IndianaJake I think he stood for the traits Mackie said, mainly doing the right thing. What does freedom above all even mean? He puts people in jail. Please calm yourself and inform us more in your fight against ignorance
@ you'd know he stands for freedom above all if you watched any of the previous Cap movies, it's literally the main plot and theme of every one of them. Freedom from control of govt and other entities seeking to control us
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America in the MCU has: unethically bought and used Stark weapons, tried to take the Iron Man suit, used Steve for propoganda, imprisoned Hulk and Thor, tried to blame the attack on Manhattan on Nick Fury and SHIELD, they were infiltrated by Hydra and attempted to frame and kill Steve Rogers, secretly developed weapons using the Tessaract, killed Wanda's parents in a bombing, they framed Isaish Bradley for murder, arrested The Avengers for refusing to sign the accords without due process, tried to covertly buy Vibranium through terrorists, they gave John Walker the title of Captain America knowing that Sam was chosen by Steve, they're currently putting together The Thunderbolts for what seems like nefarious reasons, they were infiltrated by shape shifting aliens, and now their President is a Hulk.....in what world is America in the MCU a heroic institution? And why do you think Steve Rogers abandoned the title of Captain America and gave up his shield? The tagline for Falcon and Winter Soldier basically became, "do you think America would let a black man be Captain America?" How is it Mackie bringing this in? Its in the writing. It has been since the opening minutes of first avenger.
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Mackie’s comments make me like him more and want to see the movie more. He gets what the character stands for
I feel like Kristian is always resorting to the worst possible idea of what something means. I love the guy but I just don’t understand where he’s coming from with his argument about why he’s against these comments. What Anthony said is not wrong nor should it be taken that way. People just don’t want to read into anything. They just wanna make a comment about it immediately and move on with their life.
@@OrionInSpace I actually agree with Kristian that it isn’t the best choice of words for marketing the movie. I just feel differently than a lot of the potential audience
Captain America is literally supposed to stand for America and its values. Hence why his name is Captain America 😂
@@jmartman13 lol that’s a problem for those people who don’t like the comments I’m sorry
@@tonyilias2561 what do you think America’s values are? I was brought up to believe it was things like “liberty and justice”. We clearly don’t care about those things at this present time. Haven’t for quite awhile. That’s what Mackie is saying
With love and respect Kristian and Roxy missed the mark completely on what Anthony meant. He was right in what he said and his explanation of what he gave. And if you’re using the “world of the MCU” this is a world were Steve Roger’s Captain America literally fought against the American government and went on the run as a fugitive for years
captain america stands for american pride. not some military. mackie was half wrong and could have worded it so much better.
Kristian spent he first segment of the show talking about people raging at nothing with regard to Superman. Proceeds to give cover to a group of people raging about nothing in the Cap 4 segment. No, they weren't different things. Like Roxy said, the people who were complaining about it, were already looking to find something wrong with it. We've seen it happening for years and years now.
I wish Kristian had the clip ready for Roxy to listen to and that all the info was presented like Chris Evans quoting something very similar when promoting First Avenger and no one had a problem with it. Rocha did a great breakdown of it.
God I hate social media 😑
Yet, here you are participating.
@@Sprayber I can walk and chew gum at the same time. But thanks so much for you comment, it reeeeeally is appreciated. I shall be treasuring you comment til my dying day. Thanx Jethro
@@Sprayberyou really consider this to be a social media app? It has social features for sure but I consider it to be a video sharing app and less than a social media one. I can see the argument for it being considered a social media platform.
It looks like his head is pasted on the body. His body twists around, and his head doesn't move at all. His hair is a different texture and different haircut
Roxy is legit the hottest woman on the planet right now
I love roxy and kristians dynamic they give such older brother younger sister chemistry i love it
Yup. 💯%
hol' up, Anthony Mackie is 46?!
Anyway, I think what his quote represents kind of harkens back to the first Captain America. Steve wasn't chosen to represent 'America'; he was selected for the traits Mackie pointed out in that interview. Throughout all his press during his tenure in the MCU, Mackie has always been bold and outspoken, so I shouldn't expect that to change whenever he's asked something like 'what does Captain America mean to you'. And in terms of backlash, that was never a new thing. There was always going to be an uphill battle trying to get people excited for a Black Captain America. From the moment the movie was announced, a line had already been drawn and certain demographics had made up their mind.
Damn I did not know he was 46 bro looks great
Mackie's answer was as well thought out as it could've been, because he was explaining the character and the characters arc.
Yay roxy won congratulations roxy the whirl girls are killin it! 🎉
Dude, maybe Anthony Mackie meant every word he said
Pretty sure he did
I agree with Roxy, America just had a controversial election. Saying Captain America represents America could also be taken the wrong way, he can’t win.
Will Ferrell shooting himself in the neck with the Trank gun in Old School and then Sean William Scott’s reaction to it is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen cracks me up every time
What Anthony meant to say is that Captain America is bigger than America. He's a world hero, not just America. Idk why everyone is making it a political issue. People are fucking stupid. He didn't mean anything about the president or anything. He maybe could have said it in a different way, but god damn people calm down. I know it makes people feel a certain way and these things have real consequences, but people freaking out about Superman and his face or what they think Anthony Mackie meant is stupid. Its not real drama, it's manufactured outrage and the point of it is for shows like this to spend 25 minutes talking about moronic trolls that aren't real. Just don't feed the beast it's not hard.
Edit: Roxy is looking absolutely fabulous today! That red lipstick matching the outline of the tank top...chefs kiss!
Everything you’re saying makes sense but then why are you here? This is a movie pop culture show. It’s entertainment. When Kristian and Roxy talk, as you say, for 25 minutes about captain America, superman, etc, it’s because it’s for the purposes of entertainment😂 if you think what they’re talking about is pointless, outrageous or a waste of time than why are you even consuming content like this??? Kristian has a large audience but with all due respect to him, he doesn’t have millions of subscribers. This is a niche show. So if you’re here watching this it’s probably because you’re invested and interested in conversations like these. Which makes me wonder why the fuck you’re here😂😂
@nicholasdoucet673 I'm here because I'm a fan of Kristian and Roxy, have been for years. I like the actual movie talk, casting, reactions, recomendations...etc. This however is just giving trolls and people who are contributing nothing a platform. I'm just so over internet drama. Maybe it's just such a pervasive issue now that pop culture has become talking about trolls.
You didn’t even read the whole quote to what he said because he was asked what Captain America means personally to him and he’s right because he represents idea of what America is supposed to be
He clearly looks cross eyed in the clip. So that's why people were saying he looked CGd in the clip.
Yeah the wild focal length they're using makes him look cross eyed for sure
I don't think there's been a fortnight since 2015/16 where there hasn't been a group (usually the same ones) calling for a boycott of a movie for some stupid reason... 9/10 times the boycott is useless.
I’m not gonna judge a movie based on a 2 second moment in a tv spot 6 months out from its release. The Snyderbros just love to complain. They still talk on Reddit about Roxy saying the Snyder Cut will never exist. They just like to play a victim.
Agreed. 100% agreed. The Snyderverse is dead and in the past. People need to move on. Henry Cavill was a great Superman. But he’s not coming back to that role. Why not enjoy or at least give what’s coming next a chance? People are so weird.
@@SydneyPayne87 well said. I also agree.
Mackie was talking to an audience in Rome. He was selling the movie to an international audience by saying that Cap is not just a hero to Americans. He's a hero to everyone.
Great episode guys!
My only constructive criticism would be for when Roxy does her TV show picks PLEASE say the name of what show you are talking about. I listen to the audio version mostly and it's hard to know which "This show" you guys are talking about if you don't say it out loud.
Conservatives didn't need Anthony Mackie to say anything for them to be upset. They dont like his complexion in the uniform and have been making that known from day 1.
I would die laughing if Roxy wins this week. Just to see Mike’s reaction to Roxy winning on Tuesday 😂😂
I was taken back by Anthony’s comments but after taking time to reflect it makes so much sense. Watch the captain America movies, Steve rogers didn’t want to stand on the sidelines and be used as uncle Sam’s propaganda. Idk I respect Anthony’s words and can’t wait to see the movie and thunderbolts!
Honestly think you guys are giving the Synder Stans too much credit. I have seen and spoken to more All-Things-MCUers that bash everything about the DC movies and shows. No matter how good they are.. "they're stupid, shot horribly and have the worst actors ever.". These are people online spreading screening rumors and AI shot opinions. Hold them accountable
Superman keeping one eye on the artic & one eye on metropolis
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John Campea and Anthony Mackie were Right 💯
Miss Brett but Roxy put on great show with Kristian. Love Power red lipstick. Sends bold statements stick out. Love her honesty. I agree with her Cap take. Good show
We going to get Rocha Roxy debate?
i never watch when rocha is on the show
I like Kristian. Been listening for a long time, subscribed, all that good stuff. However, I've noticed lately a pattern that suggests some troubling things. This need to pushback against certain content under the guise of being mindful of profit is problematic in some ways and false in others. It's super concerning coming from someone with a comedic and stand up background. When it's Acolyte and Anthony Mackie....oh who is this for and you need to invite everyone in. But when its other material that you find funny or raunchy or offensive then its creative license and not everything is for everybody. That's two different ideologies to reconcile for me personally and sounds again like someone with looking to hide their politics behind something else. I do my best to separate art from artist, but I get why so many enjoy this admin while hiding their affiliation from the public.
Great conversation. Thanks for sharing it. I agree with Roxy. I don’t think Mackie’s remarks are going to change anyone’s mind to either not see this or to go see it.
As with the Superman flying face, it’s making a mountain out of a molehill.
Im trying to figure why people are finding way to complain about The whole Superman flying scene. Everyone has gotta let these things play out once Superman legacy movie comes out. I had absolutely no issues with it whatsoever. Especially since its a 2 second TV Spot 6 months away from the actual film.
People have a right to love or hate and be pessimistic/cynical about anything new that DC puts out considering they've been putting out many pieces of garbage for more than a decade at this point. The DC brand is at an all-time low and people don't have any hope or want to get excited about anything anymore since they've been burned over and over again. I enjoyed the DCEU more than most people, but many people hated the DCEU since the start and hated movies like Man of Steel and have been done with DC since that movie came out, and with more catastrophic films that continued to come out during the DCEU's run, DC has lost millions of fans, and it's going to be very hard, borderline impossible to bring them back after having so many L's, and if this new Superman movie isn't good or successful, then the rest of what James Gunn has planned for his universe will never see the light of day, and the DC brand will pretty much be dead in the water, even more so than it already is. Even Marvel/the MCU has lost millions of fans post endgame since they have continued putting out awful movies and shows throughout Phases 4 and 5, and there have been only a handful of super successful/beloved projects, but not enough to bring back the audience and numbers that they had in the past that were there for Endgame.
Just wanna mention im currently rewatching Season 1 of Silo on episode 6 and also I'm watching Severance S2 Episode 2 both are amazing shows.
as long as the movie looks good i don't give a crap. some people just love to complain
Before we say Capt 4 is going to lose money I need ti know what the actual budget was for the original and the budget for the reshoots. They used a lot of practical sets and effects in this movie. I doubt it cost more than $250 million tops for the original and reshoot. Starting off with $100 million opening domestic would be a huge win especially if it has legs.
How can you sit through all three Cap movies, especially Winter Soldier & Civil War, and claim anything Mackie said as a controversial assessment of what Capt. America stands for? Dude gave up everything repeatedly to fight for what's right, even if that meant going against the govt itself.
You can close your eyes all you want, comics and their adaptations are inherently political, and that's not going to change just because you're too comfortable to accept they're other less fortunate than you are suffering.
no one has mentioned anything about govt. Cap stands for freedom above all, he stood for that in every single movie
@@IndianaJake Anthony Mackie never spoke badly or down on "freedom" so what does that have to do with anything? Steve Rogers stood up against the US Government when he disagreed with it. That's all Mackie is doing now. He's saying Sam Wilson's Cap doesn't represent the current administration's idea of America. It's obviously a clear reaction to the most controversial president ever returning to office last week.
@@TopCheeseBarDown he didn't say anything about the current admin you're inferring alotta crap. It's a fantasy movie it shouldn't have anything to do with real life politic crap. He also didn't say anything about govt, you're just making excuses for a very generic comment that he made.
You can still be Pro-America and represent America's values and beliefs without supporting the government lmao. Just because you support a country doesn't mean you automatically support their government or stand with that country's government lmao. Cap represents the values and beliefs of America and what it truly stands for. That's why he's literally called Captain America lmao. There's almost no one more Pro-America than the superhero who's literally named after America 😂
@@tonyilias2561 Captain America has never represented nationalism. He represents the ideals of what America should strive to achieve.
I'm going to see Cap more times now that he said what he said.
Watching Star Wars in chronological order for your first time ever would ruin the emotional impact of the "I am your father" twist in Empire.
I think a reason the buzz isn't big for Capt: Brave New World is that it's been over 4yrs since Falcon & Winter Solider w/o these characters showing up anywhere. Where have these characters been? With the MCU movies you saw Sam in other movies outside Cap 2. There should have been a mini movie or something leading up to this movie. The long gap with these MCU characters may be a problem...
That's another good reason. Phases 4 and 5 apart from being awful in terms of quality and content in terms of the stories they've tried to tell, have also not done a good job whatsoever in setting up for future events/plotlines or setting up certain characters to join in future conflicts/stories. Phases 1-3 did a great job of fleshing out most, if not all the main characters that we were following and setting them up for future events. Iron Man, Cap, Thor, etc. got multiple films to set up and flesh out their characters and to make them truly the main characters of the franchise for us to root for and care about, meanwhile Phases 4-6 have had a bunch of 1-off projects with new characters that we haven't seen in years and don't even like or care about whatsoever. We haven't seen characters like The Eternals, Moon Knight, She-hulk, Shang-Chi, Echo, etc. in any other projects besides their own in years, and many people didn't even like these characters, didn't care about them, and/or have completely forgotten about them. In Phases 1-3, we knew who our main Avengers and team that we're rooting for are. Since Endgame, besides like maybe Spider-Man, we pretty much have no idea who our main heroes are and haven't even been setting up future plotlines to get excited about in the future. Phases 1-3 had a clear vision and story arc that ended with Thanos and the Infinity Stones. Phases 4-6 have been for the most part very random, and barely anything has been set up or connects to each other in any meaningful way
I’m really excited for the movie and not looking for reasons to hate the shot, but his eyes looking off is immediately noticeable. Theres a similar Guardians 3 shot James Gunn did with the Adam Warlock character and that looks fine because his eyes are aligned, whereas here, they’re not.
I get that James Gunn said this can happen with wide-angle lenses, but I still think it should be fixed for aesthetic reasons-especially for a character like Superman.
I think people hate Emilia Perez alot more than Crash honestly. I dont remember the Crash hate coming until after it won
And the odd thing about the Emilia Perez hate, is that it's coming from both sides of the political spectrum, for different reasons. Rare that the hate towards a film is so united (even if for different reasons).
@TopCheeseBarDown and there's also people that just hate it because they think the music and story are bad in general
Crash was actually a good movie, It would seem people don't all think Emilia is. But, not sure
Kristians glasses are great idk why but they just work and roxys voice her natural rasp is mad dope
Hey Kristian, the way I've always introduced Star Wars to new people is 4,5, then 1,2,3 (for the backstory) then back to 6, 7, 8, 9.
Doing 123 after Empire is like one big flashback scene.
I wonder if what Mackie meant, is something that I’ve always felt about Cap: He doesn’t represent what America IS, he represents what we HOPE America can be.
Cap is a representation of the American Dream, not what the country may be. He’s striving for a world that may never come to pass, but he realizes that just because it may never happen doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to make it happen.
I agree with Kristian.. movie is almost out, just let it release then say things later haha. It Ends With Us is giving us the juciest drama right now and they waited til the movie was out and made tons of money first.
Understand where you both of you guys Kristian & Roxy are coming from. It wasn't Happen to Take a look at Anthony Mackie Comments, my thoughts are i believe he meant Cap doesn't just solely represent The United States as country whether its current state of affairs. Personally believe he's implying Cap represents a stoic, man with a badge honor dignity, values, idealism, aspirations of what can it truly become. Those are what I was thinking he actually meant but Kristian you are correct about the framing did not help his cause in promoting the film. It may ruffle some feathers rubbed certain Marvel fans the wrong way.
Severance is great. Anyone who isn’t watching is missing out!
Hating has becomes an art form for these obsessives haters. These people don't seem to get that whether it's positive or negative, the awareness of Superman increases. A movie like Black Adam would have liked to get some positive or negative headlines. Cause at least people would have been talking about the movie. Instead, nobody gave a shit about the movie. Even when The Rock told people Henry Cavill will be in the post credit scene of the movie. People still didn't show up cause nobody cared about at the time a dying DCEU. Now the DCEU is just dead and buried. Life goes on people.
I don’t think the comments will hurt the movie all that much. If I wasn’t watching this show every day, I’d probably never hear about Mackie’s comments. I’m just hoping it’s good because like Harloff said, there’s no way this movie makes money. This is a buy back some goodwill with the audience movie. And I hope it can do that.
Mackie's comments are not even 1/10 as bad as what other super insufferable Hollywood celebrities say like Rachel Zegler, Brie Larson, Mark Hamill, etc.
I had little interest to see this movie but Anthony Mackie’s comments 100% makes me want to see the movie even more.
I'm not sure what was funnier, Harloff hitting Rox with an "earmuffs" or Roxy giving him one😂
He outed himself . Thank you , money saved, I won’t be supporting his work in this film. I DO love America 🇺🇸♥️
I think with John said about Mackie's comment is right. America is not a characteristic. The worst he use are characteristics.
I wouldn't want to represent America right now either.
It looks like they screwed on his head and twisted it around when he started flying.
My all time favorite trailer is Trailer 3 for The Dark Knight Rises
Neither one of you will simply accept what Mackie said . . You’re challenging his own language, and thoughts . He didn’t ask either one of you to twist yourselves into a pretzel to make excuses for him, or to defend him
And here in lies the biggest problem because you make a great point about it. I think what Kristian is so misguided by in his argument is that he believes that whatever an actor says about a film has to be true to what every single audience member that goes to see it wants to believe in. If that’s how we talked about movies, then I don’t think anyone would go see movies in general anymore. It’s not Anthony’s job to represent or appeal to everyone who could potentially go and see it by promoting the movie based off what he believes is representative of his character. And the thing is, nothing he said should be taken as offensive. He never said something derogatory about the name. He just said that he doesn’t feel like the name is all that representative of the actual country but more so the ideals of the person who takes up its mantle.
Mackie spoke directly about the narrative of the character. Steve's and Sam's Captain America who were both on the run from America until Steve became an old man
I watched the video and I don’t have a problem with it. Although I can see how it would rub certain people the wrong way. Captain America is an aspirational character. I would say he never represented America. He fought against the government in Winter Soldier and Civil War.
Cap represents the values and beliefs of America and what it truly stands for. That's why he's literally called Captain America lmao. There's almost no one more Pro-America than the superhero who's literally named after America 😂
@ Maybe in the 1940’s but this is not the same America. 😂
i think people thought it looked weird and assumed it was cgi bc its a scene of a man flying and they see a weird looking guy flying through air looking weird and think ""oh thats bad cgi
Jake S superchatted in saying how they went from 28 Days Later, to Weeks to Years and he was offended that they skipped months. Never mind that 28 Weeks Later is 18 years ago, just think of this movie as not 28 Years Later, if it bothers you, but 336 Months Later, Jake S 🤣❤
First I mean the casual movie goer doesn't know CGI as well as people in the movie business and people with well worse vision than you; not everyone has 20/20 vision. For Anthony Macky's statements I mean in an ideal world they would be perfect fine and he is right; I mean Captain America represents the aspirations of what America could and should be and you see that through out the movies, we don't live in an ideal world and a lot of people have fragile feelings. I mean everyone has a price, squid game proves that; a person just has to decide on what it is and what they are and aren't willing to compromise on.
It’s hysterical that JG responded . Proof that the internet sphere , social media is a threat . I agree with Gunn about the pic , there are many reasons for something, but it’s NOT an attractive picture. Piss ppl off, game over . Ppl will let you know what they think. You, and Roxy preach too much , you constantly dictate how, what, when , and why ppl can judge a movie. You two are not the gatekeepers of film critique
Standing on business when playing the dating game is super attractive. Just so you know.
Roxy looks like hot brunettes with red lipstick in Robert Palmer "Simply Irresistible"
If they're upset with his face while flying 😂😂😂 I'm too old for this sh--
I would love to see how people who believe the flying shot looked "weird" would look if THEY were flipped upside down, blasted with a fan, while being filmed in close up with a wide angle lens. Ya'll faces would need an extra CG budget 😂
Hey Kristian, if you see this you should find out if Sam has seen The Dark Knight trilogy and if not please do reactions for them
Telling Captain America to shut up and dribble is kinda wild…
Agreed.
I’m ok with the Superman flying clip. I like that it’s different. I just hope this movie does well.
It crazy, i don’t follow professional sports except for UFC…but I watch the SuperBowl for just the movie trailers and if the halftime show if I like the performer…I am in Philly so you know I gotta watch this year tho !!!
Garth Brooks did the snl double. He performed as chris gaynes
Kristian was really leading Roxy to give his answer when it came to Cap America thing lmao America is NOT a trait. Anthony is talking about what the character stands for or should stand for. why people are getting their panties in a bunch over this, just proves the clickbait hate drama, politics weaponizing world america lives in. Kriistian is entitled to his opinion ofc but i really do not like this version of him these days that always harps on what people should say. I knew what his stance would be on this since he holds similar views on saying things during Oscars.
I couldn’t care less about Mackie’s comments, doesn’t affect me at all. I’m gonna see the movie regardless and I’m hoping for a fun time and a good movie.
I simply dont believe James Gunn at this point. He plays semantics and lies a lot. There is no way there isn'tCG in that shot. Digital Compositing still count, James
TV recommendation.....Paradise on Disney plus. Political conspiracy type, bug with a sci-fi twist at the end of episode 1 that got me watching more.
At 1 hr and 15 min.... if u dont make that sandwhich and water bottle comment a stabd up bit... jesus i was literally laughing at 3am and almost woke my wife up..
I haven't seen people hating on the Supes teaser - just laughing their asses off because it looks so totally goofy. It's the fact that directors keeps using this weird flying shot that comes from that weird angle (Black Adam does it, Adam Warlock has the same shot...) - it just looks funny. Nowt to do with CGI.
1:53:28- I do think the release of GTA 6 will have an impact on the movies coming out that month. Similar to how studios avoid Superbowl weekend and events like the Soccer World Cup all World Series can impact either global or US Box office. Even Back in 2008, there reports whether GTA 4 would impact the box office and the franchise and video game industry has only grown massively since then!
When GTA 6 finnaly comes out it is going to be huge, I do think a large amount of people (especially the 20-35 audience that often drive the box office) will be staying at home / addicted to the game during the first few weeks and I don’t seem the pausing the game to go to the movies. But honestly,. I wouldn’t be surprised if the game is delayed until 2026.
Yeah I agree. I just don't think Kristian and Roxy are in tune with the gaming world. People are gonna be paying at least $70 that week and I doubt they're gonna wanna go out and pay for a movie as well.
Kristian, incase you don't know that Frosty and Mackie drama goes even further because Mackie cussed him out before an interview for Infinity War
Whilst I do think there is a chance Macke's comments may have been taken out of context, I cant imagine Disney are happy with the situation. There is already questions about the interest and how this movie will perform, and the last thing the need is bad publicity or controversy. Not to mention, they have had enough PR nightmares with Snow White, that comes out 1 month later.
Snow Brown is going to be the biggest box office bomb of all time. I can't wait for that 😂
@@tonyilias2561 have you seen thew snow white AI song on that the chat music channel?
The idea was to tie comic animation TV and Movies... Superman looks more like Marvel style with less gritty realistic like DCEU...
Day of the Jackal is addictive TV!
We now live in a world where fantasy movies no longer get to be just fantasy. Everything has to be a reminder of real life until it's all constantly on our minds and we're all chronically depressed. It's so great
True. We need to go back to when iron man was criticizing the military industrial complex and the winter soldier was criticizing governmental overreach. God, I miss when art wasn’t political.
@ yeah. And Captain America above all has always stood for freedom first which is an American ideal. It’s a pretty simple concept. I didn’t think mackie’s comments were “wrong” per se, but rather generic and a bit ignorant regarding what capn America actually stands for
@@IndianaJakeactually you have never read comics because what Mackie said the real Steve Rogers would agree with
@@mustermas actually you never read my comment because I didn't even say he was wrong. Literally any hero should stand for the things Mackie said which is why I said it's a bit generic of an answer
@@gleekthemonkey4570 The difference is that THEN it wasn't overt. An idiot could watch the film and not see those themes, today they tell instead of show and those of us who aren't neanderthals are tired of hearing it all day everyday. We get it, everything sucks, we agree, can we just watch the pew pew lazer eye man save the day please?!?!
Offense shouldn’t dictate the conversation. That being said: there are points in the story where Cap himself feels this way… Don’t think it was a particularly smart or nuanced comment, but if engagement is truly the metric you measure by, a potential ‘ban’ is the biggest gift your detractors might present you with…
Sometimes the topics where it’s just to complain/yell at the internet and ppl on the internet for being who they are is exhausting… like we know. This is not new info. A lot of people suck online and say things to get a rye out of others or just to get some X engagements. Just don’t understand the reasoning of talking about that Superman topic besides just doing that. But that’s just me.
Adored Roxy and Andrew in always Lola . Love the movie and performances
To be honest, I only got Apple cause Roxy kept naming all these shows so I decided to do the free trial. It’s now the last service I would cancel!
Here’s the thing with the Mackie Quote.
He worded it wrong but he’s right.
Every captain America movie except the first, has Cap literally in the run from the government he’s a symbol for.
The point is America can be corrupt like any institution, BUT the ideals of America are to be trustworthy, brave, and have integrity.
The ideal of America is Steve Rodger’s but sometimes America is actually Donald Trump. Same nation, same principles, 2 very different applications.
That’s what he meant. All conservatives mad about this are bad faith ppl who refuse to acknowledge nuance.
In Falcon Winter Soldier Sam couldn't even get a loan to help his family..we saw Isiah Bradley get mistreated & experimented on for decades so it's some reality in MCU but I do agree he suppose to be the hopeful change despite the hate for him having the shield. But he has burden being called a sellout & patriot
American doesnt mean the government, the ideals of America has always been in the what cap stood for, despite the actions of those in gov, standing up for what is right despite the world changing around you, individual liberty and freedom, innocent until proven guilty, etc…
Had to skip that whole Mackie bit after a while. How exhausting, I don’t know why you’d platform this shit. Let the idiots be angry in the corner i don’t get why it needs to be reported as news
She don’t need it, but I have to say, Ms. Roxy looked particularly beautiful