During the pandemic I was camping at Georgetown lake Montana..a fellow drove in with a bike on his camper rig, didn't think much about it until he took it down. He road it around and it did not make a sound when he got back I spoke to him.. it was a Zero bike that looked alot like the one you are leaning against at the end of your video. During my stay there he would leave in the morning and ride back in the afternoon.. he planned out 100 mile loops and was back in time to charge it up with a generator like everyone uses with their campers.. he loved it! saw it live. Great video and Thanks for the memory
For those who don’t ride to a trail I can see this being the ideal machine. Stick a couple of batteries in the car, do the next trail. They are quiet so don’t attract attention, very little maintenance, light weight so can be put on a decent bike rack.
Hi Saffy, I think for a lot of people range anxiety puts them off ownership, but in saying that they are perfect for commuting , and maybe trials / motocross. Touring on the other hand with such small distance ranges would make it very difficult to live with. But you never know what the future may bring. Thank you.
First, I'm most interested in the concept neutrino as the owner of an FX. A clean little bike I can easily put in a car or carry with me would be a boon. Second, 🥈 having a portable power supply capable of delivering a few kw or functioning as home storage/backup power would be a killer application. A little bike will be much friendlier for exploring unknown reaches.
I would get a zero xe with a spare battery. 85 km/h is not bad when you're riding logging roads and gravel and dirt trails. I feel unsafe going faster than that, even when I had gas bikes that could go faster. And the fact that it would be quiet would be so nice, as it opens up trails that aren't really open to dirt bikes. No one will care too much if you are riding past their house to get to a trail, especially when they can't hear it. That's what pisses most people off.
Finally, an OEM that states its goal to make additional batteries affordable accessories. Having to drop another 50% of the value of the bike for an additional battery has sucked!
If they had a 100km range and came with a spare battery then it'd be something to consider as a commuter vehicle, but it's no replacement for petrol bike. maybe have another look when they start getting above the 1,000km range mark.
1000km in one go with an enduro off-road bike? That is more than 24h offroad riding without stopping. I am sure most people will have a break much sooner.
Hi saffy, I will be sticking with my petrol ⛽️ bike 🏍, change of subject I have never seen your hair look better ( not that it doesn't always look nice) . Best wishes Roy 😊.
I like the concept of EV but the execution falls flat for me. Perhaps it's just me, I'm still looking for something that looks like a cruiser with more range.
i think Zero have quite the way to go before i would consider their new offerings, the right to repair is to me a fundamental aspect of being a biker.... if im not able to replace parts then its one big no from me.... other wise they are interesting new offerings...
An electric bike,with a ham-fisted owner and tools and a high amp battery .... not a good combination. Will a "safety" rated container be required for storage?
I’ve seen Max Gerston do a hard enduro on the Stark a couple of times, the only addition he was looking for was a clutch which I think is in the works or out now. 2 Ktm shops I was in, the owners got them for their wives or kids to group ride. Different strokes for different folks. You need to have a few tools in your tool box.
@@AdventureAryck I think you should even get yourself a tool box to put some tools in. Try going from Land's End to Scotland on an EV motorcycle. You'll get there by Christmas 2025 after stopping for hours on end to charge your ride.
Looks like you can charge them in 3 hours from a home plug on their site. I doubt range anxiety would be an issue for people using these they aren't for cross country commutes with the speeds they are capable of it's aimed short journeys only
They expect the “engine” to last the life of the bike... 10 years 😂 My car is 9 years old. If I needed to replace the engine within 10 years of owning it, I’d buy something else. And... my car has much longer than one year left in it. Automotive industry is going to be a sad place when we’re forced to ride around on AAA batteries. It’s a no from me.
Saffy, stay away from EV motorcycles. Unless you want to be stuck on some trail out in nowhere. Real motorcyclists want nothing to do with them. They are a dying breed already. Love your videos. They make me happy, except when you get very upset. Also your poetic monologues are beautiful and brilliant.
@@SaffySprocket You have already come a long way riding off road. Keep at it you will get comfortable with it. Find a small empty dirt road near home. Ride it over and over and over.
During the pandemic I was camping at Georgetown lake Montana..a fellow drove in with a bike on his camper rig, didn't think much about it until he took it down. He road it around and it did not make a sound when he got back I spoke to him.. it was a Zero bike that looked alot like the one you are leaning against at the end of your video. During my stay there he would leave in the morning and ride back in the afternoon.. he planned out 100 mile loops and was back in time to charge it up with a generator like everyone uses with their campers.. he loved it! saw it live. Great video and Thanks for the memory
Probably a zero FX!
For those who don’t ride to a trail I can see this being the ideal machine. Stick a couple of batteries in the car, do the next trail. They are quiet so don’t attract attention, very little maintenance, light weight so can be put on a decent bike rack.
How exciting!!! That was a great interview.
Thank you so much 🥰
Now, something new, the XB looks good. thanks Saffy. Great questions.
Hi Saffy, I think for a lot of people range anxiety puts them off ownership, but in saying that they are perfect for commuting , and maybe trials / motocross. Touring on the other hand with such small distance ranges would make it very difficult to live with. But you never know what the future may bring. Thank you.
First, I'm most interested in the concept neutrino as the owner of an FX. A clean little bike I can easily put in a car or carry with me would be a boon. Second, 🥈 having a portable power supply capable of delivering a few kw or functioning as home storage/backup power would be a killer application. A little bike will be much friendlier for exploring unknown reaches.
Swappable/replacement batteries sounds like a no-brainer to me.
Saffy, any idea of the range of the XE, run time, distance and charge time, I like he idea of being able to swap out the battery
Check it out on there website
Will these be road legal in the US ?
Love the hair style, Saffy
Thank you so much 😊
@@SaffySprocket super cute! ;)
What about road legality in the US?
What is the seat height of the XE. I think I want one.
I would get a zero xe with a spare battery. 85 km/h is not bad when you're riding logging roads and gravel and dirt trails. I feel unsafe going faster than that, even when I had gas bikes that could go faster. And the fact that it would be quiet would be so nice, as it opens up trails that aren't really open to dirt bikes. No one will care too much if you are riding past their house to get to a trail, especially when they can't hear it. That's what pisses most people off.
The electric stuff is not my thing but well done Saffy getting yourself in shot as you shoot from the other side of the stage 🤣😂
😂😂😂 I'm glad someone appreciates my efforts
Attractive razors. If the smaller one can be riden as a bicycle, I can think about buying one for daily commute and occasional off-road fun.
Finally, an OEM that states its goal to make additional batteries affordable accessories. Having to drop another 50% of the value of the bike for an additional battery has sucked!
It is pretty insane. If they pull it off they're basically going to blow the market wide open
If they had a 100km range and came with a spare battery then it'd be something to consider as a commuter vehicle, but it's no replacement for petrol bike. maybe have another look when they start getting above the 1,000km range mark.
1000km in one go with an enduro off-road bike? That is more than 24h offroad riding without stopping. I am sure most people will have a break much sooner.
great vid thank the grat vid you do thanks lee
Glad you enjoyed it
Zero MINI like a Grom would be cool .
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Hi saffy, I will be sticking with my petrol ⛽️ bike 🏍, change of subject I have never seen your hair look better ( not that it doesn't always look nice) . Best wishes Roy 😊.
crikey id wreck that mate what a beast
The small one looks like another Surron knockoff. 😅
I like the concept of EV but the execution falls flat for me. Perhaps it's just me, I'm still looking for something that looks like a cruiser with more range.
I think any new tech is a little clunky in the beginning, I think after a few years, electric bikes will be a whole different ball game
i think Zero have quite the way to go before i would consider their new offerings, the right to repair is to me a fundamental aspect of being a biker.... if im not able to replace parts then its one big no from me.... other wise they are interesting new offerings...
You have a van go buy one I haven't and I tour so if this is so called future of motorcycleing I'm afraid there is no future good vid though
Stay safe and ride crazy huh?
I am sleep deprived 😂
Looks like a surron lol
It does a bit doesn't it
An electric bike,with a ham-fisted owner and tools and a high amp battery .... not a good combination.
Will a "safety" rated container be required for storage?
the one is a Sur ron = nothing new
I wouldn't buy one. Range anxiety and charging issues are my reasons.
I’ve seen Max Gerston do a hard enduro on the Stark a couple of times, the only addition he was looking for was a clutch which I think is in the works or out now. 2 Ktm shops I was in, the owners got them for their wives or kids to group ride. Different strokes for different folks. You need to have a few tools in your tool box.
@@AdventureAryck I think you should even get yourself a tool box to put some tools in. Try going from Land's End to Scotland on an EV motorcycle. You'll get there by Christmas 2025 after stopping for hours on end to charge your ride.
Looks like you can charge them in 3 hours from a home plug on their site. I doubt range anxiety would be an issue for people using these they aren't for cross country commutes with the speeds they are capable of it's aimed short journeys only
@Jisei13 that's no good to me. I do thousands of miles per year.
They expect the “engine” to last the life of the bike... 10 years 😂 My car is 9 years old. If I needed to replace the engine within 10 years of owning it, I’d buy something else. And... my car has much longer than one year left in it. Automotive industry is going to be a sad place when we’re forced to ride around on AAA batteries. It’s a no from me.
Electric engines in these bikes are really easy to swap and X times cheaper than the traditional ones...
Saffy, stay away from EV motorcycles. Unless you want to be stuck on some trail out in nowhere. Real motorcyclists want nothing to do with them. They are a dying breed already. Love your videos. They make me happy, except when you get very upset. Also your poetic monologues are beautiful and brilliant.
To be fair, I already get stuck on trails 😂 I doubt it would be any worse than my current chaotic riding
@@SaffySprocket You have already come a long way riding off road. Keep at it you will get comfortable with it. Find a small empty dirt road near home. Ride it over and over and over.
😂😂😂I see so many gas dirt bike guys convert their bikes to electric and or sell their gas bikes to buy an electric dirtbike😂😂😂
You don't know many trials riders then?
Electric bikes are fun and quiet ! I had a go on a Zero SRF and it was incredible. These look great 👍