@@timjonesguitar Yeah, the same way they made mixing "easier" by giving us a gimmicky new version of an SSL, charging 2-3x what their existing SSL costs, slapping CLA on it, and ripping off the Brainworx/ Plugin Alliance concept.
@@OdinOfficialEmcee but hey, they're giving us a free plugin with whatever this is lol. This must be a modular reverb/delay plugin/effect rack of some sort
@@OdinOfficialEmcee I mean, I'm fairly confident it's going to be a new reverb/delay plugin that models CLA's specific hardware (some of it fairly obscure), and allows you to mix, match and blend them using faders, the same way he does on his console. And, if so, whatever else you might think of Waves, that would be a pretty cool plugin.
The thing I love most about CLA is how he’s stuck to what works for him all these years. He’s not out here chasing trends. He uses time tested techniques that are always tasteful. Plus that donut analogy was spot on! Lol
Now I'M SURE, that there will be some "DEPTH" reverb/delay plugin from CLA. It's great from one particular reason - most of His hardware is hard to buy even on reverb or ebay.
@@adissumbuljevic9609 Hardware doesn't use cpu power. Hardware has no 32bit 64 bit format. Hardware does not depend on OS. So yeah plugins can be outdated, hardware gear can't.
That's the difference if you mix with a console; you just turn a knob til it sounds good. Not that much visual output in there like in a DAW, so mixing becomes purely about what you hear.
@@xanderpills which is why my first move on every mix is to use a 3-band analog EQ to do as much of my work as possible! After gain staging, of course. I use API 550A and VEQ3 for it, if anyone cares lol
@@zachary963 But from the list you provided it looks like you use a DAW. Unless you mix with your monitor turned off, you're still getting a lot of visual input.
I like the analogy of the ingredients put together of various amounts to make the track or donut. Some are better communicators and teachers than others and he is the better one.
Thanks chris. For all those decades of sonic sound...landscapes of sounds...you inspired me and many for that magical sound...must say your ssl has something magical...it works differently with you as the master...thanks chris...you the guru...
Thnx Chris Thnx Waves!! This is one of the most helpful tutorials I've seen . Gonna try it out not now but right now. Best quote "Welcome to the land of Oz"
Seems like all the great mixers have this synesthesia going on, blending several senses in how they percieve what's going on. Sounds, visuals, tastes, etc. Very interesting and feels somehow almost spiritual (in lack of a better term). Bruce Swedien, however, described that phenomenon as being a curse more than a blessing. He even called it a distraction. But I would say it sure seemed to work in his favour anyway. Great energy in this CLA guy. Heard the name many times, and finally recently examined what he was all about. Now I keep coming back for a new dose of CLA-energy (and tips of course) every now and then. Thanks for giving us your good stuff! Let's hope the show goes on. Crazy world.
"Imagine putting all this in Protools session" says Mixing Sensei CLA... I sense a new plugin coming our way from Waves :-)... But this info is seriously awesome stuff, I never would have thought to mix more than a reverb or a delay together, but Chris is saying mix a whole bunch of them for 3 dimensionality ... Incredible will setup my own like this, as I have a multiple send out to FX busses in Studio One 5 it's SUPER easy to do. Thanks Waves for this great info!
So the free plugin is a CLA mixhub-like concept where you control the fixed CLA delays/reverbs from one console-like interface (similar to waves NLS)? Could be cool. However, I have already been setting mix matrices in cubase for sharing multiple plugins with one fader for each effect per track and saving CPU plus gaining ergonomics for fast mixing. I like Chris. Charismatic.
Amazing how the simplicity is not “so simple” and all his knowledge of the gear and what each one does gives him the freedom to see all the different posibilities. Thank you Waves for bringing this to everyone! @monterosamusic
Literally just went to write that !!! I just happened to get a gig in Greece once, ended up living there for 7 years, so I read, write, and speak fluently. It has helped my English immensely !!! (and my sense of humor when I hear pronunciation like that) !! 🤪🤪🤪
Chris created some of his own personal depth as alluded when he mentioned cupcakes and bbq sauce lol. I kid Chris is amazing and his sends setup is all class. Love when he talked about how delays blending with reverb can create more depth in a mix.
That's the advantage mixing with a desk, it gives you the "feel" blending something subtle in your mix, I just broke out an old A&H GL mixer to go over mixing in the box. It's difficult a sudden switch. But I did to make room for instruments. And a new rack with all my gear.
I love CLA and this video series rocks! His sound and approach have always been really influential! I totally get and love all the analogies, but, am I the only one who walks into a DD and orders a simple "Old-Fashioned"? LOL Can't wait for the new plug-in and CLA Bakery! Cheers
This short series is pure gold for both the content and the fact that it's FREE. Yet, it has less views and likes than some videos of any average UA-cam channel of 'modern' audio guys. Holy crap! Who are you guys listening to? Who are you guys learning from?
Would someone please invite Chris to your BBQ? The man is STARVING! How many more hints does he need to drop until we get this man a steak and baked potato?
11:30 if you can explain it to a child, you understand it well enough. How true this sentence is, this is some gold masterpiece of mixing advice from CLA here, and I appreciate it. Time to stop randomly picking Reverbs and Delays and starting to make a Depth template in my DAW.
8:48 I think I know what the new plugin is gonna do. Either a routing plugin of sorts or some sort of reverb/delay plugin with all the routing incorporated.
So Reverb C is Hall on the plug-in - is that the EMT & Yamaha combined? And Reverb D is Space - is that the Eventide or the AMS? He mentions the Eventide as a Hall, but that’s the EMT & Yamaha?! Any clarification Waves?…
@@MixChecks i think he’s just much more comfortable doing it his way. I actually watched this video and then went and tried this approach on a mix. The routing wasn’t that big of a deal at all. The automation, on the other hand, was pretty intensive.
Wish you went further on the routing. Like how does a channel that is setup for a reverb actually gets routed anywhere else on the console for use by separate channel instruments/vocals. Are those first 8 channels on the console acting as AUX's or inserts?
Hey, it can be misleading as he’s flying the left faders and keeps referring to them as sends when they are the returns, they aren’t inserts, the inserts are for eq, comp or whatever and done via patch bay and just inserted by a single button half way up the channel strip. At the top of the SSL is the routing matrix (48 small plastic buttons) it allows you to route a channel to somewhere else on the desk or route it to an effect patched on the patch bay (small little Red lights) he has the channels routed to all the same fx at once judging from the lights I can see and he seems to have most of the channel sends (5 grey push latch buttons situated just about the record tape enable on each channel) set to 12 or 2 o clock you can see him reach and turn off the sends at times. It can be done in box and only difference would be hitting the send button on by hitting it down on SSL or unmuting the aux send you setup at start of session on a DAW depends how quick you are with a mouse 😁 set up 4 verbs on 4 auxs would do same thing in logic or other DAW, just have sends muted but set to 12 o clock. He might be floating some channel stuff too but that’s another story.
@@edhannigan4327 thanks for the reply - just now saw it - duh on me. Yeah I see some trickery here. Just wished there was something more visual to see the routing techniques as I am trying to emulate this on a Soundcraft board (staying in analog) which has far less sends/returns, auxes, and subgroups.
How is the lexicon 480 better than the 224? I always go with the original since thats where the magic started hence calling it the "lexicon 224 reverb sound". It has beautiful magical chorusing halls that make your pads fly & seep through the walls.
224 is great I’m guessing he just had the 480 first. My first studio as a young engineer had both so I consider myself lucky to have used and heard them.
That's the real mixing stuff that nobody teaches. I can't wait to see next episode to see the real usage of this. Hope it will be in-depth enough ;) Thanks a lot for this series!
Hi Chris, amazing video series. You’ve changed my life with these… the H3000 Dense Room is a preset that you’ve tweaked? Any hints on what needs changing on the stock preset? What is it that you needed to tweak? Thank you man..
Does CLA have all effects on vocal sub (I knew that he has crowd) or only on tracks? I mean if he have separate slap and plate/hall for only Lead vocal and only background vocals or if he has all vocals same on vocal sub.
I don't get one thing. The fader control the amount of fx in all the elements at once o it's different? For example: we mix drums and his fx and print it, to continuous with the vocals??
Kids be thinking the 480 is just the LARC controller 😁 the 480 is a mother of a 4U faceless rack mount unit, I loved using all this stuff back in the day.
I doubt it. The independent left and right outputs from stereo fx units would be going into two seperate mono channels of the console and panned left and right. So if you have 4 stereo fx units you will use up 8 mono channels of the console. Example, the left output of your reverb unit goes into mono channel 1 of the console and panned left and the right output goes into mono channel two of the console and panned right
Watch the full series: www.waves.com/depth
thanks for sharing knowledge @ Chris x Waves
Reverbs
1:00 - Reverb A - Lexicon 480L - Plate - Vox
1:37 - Reverb B - Sony DRE 2000 + Bricasti M7 - Short Room - Drum & Instrument
2:47 - Reverb C - EMT 246 + Yahama Rev 1 - Room & Plate - Drum
3:43 - Reverb D - Eventide H3000 - Hall
4:05 - AMS rmx 16 or AMS dmx 15-80s - Non linear
Delays
5:00 - Marshall Tape AR-300 Eliminator - Slap
5:19 - Line 6 Echo Pro - Throw
5:45 - Lexicon PCM 42 - Delay 1/8
6:11 - Ursa Major Space Station - Crowd
Kind of weird how he talks about 4 reverbs then uses 5.
@@Hexspa because he use AMS rarely which was why he turned them off before early in the video.
@@BukanIbuMu Got it. Thanks.
@@Hexspa in fact he uses 6 for a, b, c and d.
@@lucianogm Thanks, Luciano.
He should change his name to Chris Lord Analogy.
Winner.
😂😂😂
Wham-o , Zip-o!
Christ Lord Analogy
😂😂😂😂😂
We all should be thankful to Chris and Waves for showing us his 'kitchen secrets' when it comes to mixing. This is priceless really. Thank you chap!
*CLA:* "This is a nightmare to do in your DAW!"
*Also CLA:* "I'm gonna show you how to do this in your DAW!"
I smell a new plugin that's going to make this "easier"
@@timjonesguitar Yeah, the same way they made mixing "easier" by giving us a gimmicky new version of an SSL, charging 2-3x what their existing SSL costs, slapping CLA on it, and ripping off the Brainworx/ Plugin Alliance concept.
@@OdinOfficialEmcee but hey, they're giving us a free plugin with whatever this is lol. This must be a modular reverb/delay plugin/effect rack of some sort
lol
@@OdinOfficialEmcee I mean, I'm fairly confident it's going to be a new reverb/delay plugin that models CLA's specific hardware (some of it fairly obscure), and allows you to mix, match and blend them using faders, the same way he does on his console. And, if so, whatever else you might think of Waves, that would be a pretty cool plugin.
The thing I love most about CLA is how he’s stuck to what works for him all these years. He’s not out here chasing trends. He uses time tested techniques that are always tasteful. Plus that donut analogy was spot on! Lol
You won't change a success formula that actually works, isn't ?
“Plain donut! I don’t wanna plain donut” priceless, thank you. I just love this approach
Hats off to waves for finally record a tutorial with Cla where you can actually see the desk with a cenital shot. Much appreciated!!!
" I want some red velvet on my donut" ...CLA, the first man to ever combine gear porn with food porn.
CLA Bakery, soon close to you!
Thanks for the valuable content, Waves/CLA
Thank you Waves Audio and CLA.
short episodes , straight to the point ! no blabla ! great and really fun
Exactly ! we need more content like this over here
These are some of the best explained and complete videos I've seen over here BTW.Thank you very much for sharing a touch of your magic!
Wham-O, Zippo, bang, boom, slap! I'm not sure what's better ...his mixing or his use of onomatopoeia?
it' s unreal - so good!
Now I'M SURE, that there will be some "DEPTH" reverb/delay plugin from CLA. It's great from one particular reason - most of His hardware is hard to buy even on reverb or ebay.
you can go to their website and sign up to get it free when it comes out
@georg walt lexicon plugins are outdated though.
+1
@@jayjain3821 outdated? He is using reverbs from 80's and you say plugin is outdated XD
@@adissumbuljevic9609 Hardware doesn't use cpu power. Hardware has no 32bit 64 bit format. Hardware does not depend on OS. So yeah plugins can be outdated, hardware gear can't.
What I like the most about CLA is that he gives a damn about "the rules", and focus on what he needs to do to make the song sound better.
Absolutely. Especially with EQ. 15dB boost? No problem :)
That's the difference if you mix with a console; you just turn a knob til it sounds good. Not that much visual output in there like in a DAW, so mixing becomes purely about what you hear.
@@xanderpills which is why my first move on every mix is to use a 3-band analog EQ to do as much of my work as possible! After gain staging, of course. I use API 550A and VEQ3 for it, if anyone cares lol
@@zachary963 But from the list you provided it looks like you use a DAW. Unless you mix with your monitor turned off, you're still getting a lot of visual input.
I love his straight forward attitude. No bulshit. Just pure tech talk without any polished shiny glitter like many other engineers have.
I like the analogy of the ingredients put together of various amounts to make the track or donut. Some are better communicators and teachers than others and he is the better one.
And this is just Chris moving faders without an open session. Imagine how much can we all learn when he opens it.
Thanks chris. For all those decades of sonic sound...landscapes of sounds...you inspired me and many for that magical sound...must say your ssl has something magical...it works differently with you as the master...thanks chris...you the guru...
Thnx Chris Thnx Waves!! This is one of the most helpful tutorials I've seen . Gonna try it out not now but right now.
Best quote
"Welcome to the land of Oz"
His nomic's must be very eager. I'm loving these new sounds and ideas. Thanks Chris!!
Drinking game: take a shot every time he says “okay”
Okay
OMG IM DRUNK xD
@@eliopose You beat me to the joke. Well done.
This series is really cool. I'm loving learning more from the man CLA
This series is super inspiring and I'm already looking for my palette of flavors, thanks CLA+Waves!
The reverb/delay combinations per section is a fantastic lesson. Can't wait to try it on my mixes. THX Chris!
Five stars. I'm hoping this is leading to some new rare CLA Reverb/Delay plug ins.If so, I'm In.
It is. Someone zoomed in and saw one of the preset names today.
I guess so !
Seems like all the great mixers have this synesthesia going on, blending several senses in how they percieve what's going on.
Sounds, visuals, tastes, etc. Very interesting and feels somehow almost spiritual (in lack of a better term).
Bruce Swedien, however, described that phenomenon as being a curse more than a blessing. He even called it a distraction. But I would say it sure seemed to work in his favour anyway.
Great energy in this CLA guy. Heard the name many times, and finally recently examined what he was all about. Now I keep coming back for a new dose of CLA-energy (and tips of course) every now and then.
Thanks for giving us your good stuff!
Let's hope the show goes on. Crazy world.
you start to realise listening to Chris that its really all about psychology and psychoacoustics. I can listen to Chris for hours. brilliant brilliant
"Imagine putting all this in Protools session" says Mixing Sensei CLA... I sense a new plugin coming our way from Waves :-)... But this info is seriously awesome stuff, I never would have thought to mix more than a reverb or a delay together, but Chris is saying mix a whole bunch of them for 3 dimensionality ... Incredible will setup my own like this, as I have a multiple send out to FX busses in Studio One 5 it's SUPER easy to do. Thanks Waves for this great info!
Definitely not super hard to do in most DAWs ;)
Thanks for this series, really. Reverbs and delays was my weakest point in mixing and this really helped me a lot.
So the free plugin is a CLA mixhub-like concept where you control the fixed CLA delays/reverbs from one console-like interface (similar to waves NLS)?
Could be cool. However, I have already been setting mix matrices in cubase for sharing multiple plugins with one fader for each effect per track and saving CPU plus gaining ergonomics for fast mixing. I like Chris. Charismatic.
11:55 - “you got a plain donut right there… a plain donut... I DONT WANT THAT!”
You gotta love this guy. Seems like a real class act.
this guy is awesome. crazy, in the best possible way.
You are amazing man Chris. I just love what you are doing.
thank you Chris and Waves Audio for the outstanding content
Most important mixing video I’ve seen thus far!!!!!!!
Very Thank for this, waves and Chris!
MY FAVORITE DECADEEEEE
"yet" lol okay Chris. Loving this!!
39x "okay"
CLA Verb! Coming up next week!
I'm too stoned for the food references lol. He started talking about red velvet my stupid ass like damn that does sound good lol
12:05 AMAZING EXPLANATION! CLA IS GENIUS!!!
If you like good mixes, listen to this man!
Amazing how the simplicity is not “so simple” and all his knowledge of the gear and what each one does gives him the freedom to see all the different posibilities. Thank you Waves for bringing this to everyone! @monterosamusic
Love this guy...can listen to him for hours...thanks for the vids
eager-nomics?
The study of eagerness.
Literally just went to write that !!!
I just happened to get a gig in Greece once, ended up living there for 7 years, so I read, write, and speak fluently.
It has helped my English immensely !!!
(and my sense of humor when I hear pronunciation like that) !! 🤪🤪🤪
It’s all about three dimensiality.
I love the cooking analogy okay. I totally get it okay. The "plain donut" was the best comment okay.
Okay...
Yeah I was dying when he said plain donut. Ok..... gotta love the guy. He's real open in sharing the knowledge n his secretes..
Okay. I see what you did there ;)
New saw a lesson this good and passionate on the net. Thanks
awesome brother great way to understand your reverb delay mix concept. always great to learn something new.
Very enjoyable. Looking forward to episode 3.
Chris Lord is lord of the Mixing
Chris created some of his own personal depth as alluded when he mentioned cupcakes and bbq sauce lol.
I kid Chris is amazing and his sends setup is all class. Love when he talked about how delays blending with reverb can create more depth in a mix.
That's the advantage mixing with a desk, it gives you the "feel" blending something subtle in your mix, I just broke out an old A&H GL mixer to go over mixing in the box. It's difficult a sudden switch. But I did to make room for instruments. And a new rack with all my gear.
I never thought I'd get so hungry watching a mixing video
This genius is a Lord of Mixing
Just what I need to hear.. thanks Chris
That was super silly, but also very helpful. Thank you! I appreciate getting an insight into how you work.
"wammo"..."zippo".... love it. #Epic one liners!
I just come here to hear CLA talk. Teach or not. I just enjoy hearing his voice. No homo. Lol
Nasal-septum-perforation.
i think he sounds like the Tony Soprano of mixing
I love CLA and this video series rocks! His sound and approach have always been really influential! I totally get and love all the analogies, but, am I the only one who walks into a DD and orders a simple "Old-Fashioned"? LOL Can't wait for the new plug-in and CLA Bakery! Cheers
You are not the only one my friend... !
Well... Welcome to Oz!!! 🤟🏻😁 That's my mentor right there. The master!
This short series is pure gold for both the content and the fact that it's FREE. Yet, it has less views and likes than some videos of any average UA-cam channel of 'modern' audio guys. Holy crap! Who are you guys listening to? Who are you guys learning from?
The realest puppet in the game Reid Stefan. The genre of top charting music.
Well, the new CLA plugin is a reverb + a delay y'all ✌🏽...no doubt
+1
Anyone think CLA always seems to be doing an impression of Al Pacino playing him in a film all the time? Still could listen to him all day
Thank You Very Much!
🙂🙏
Ha, Chris is definitely a genius creative.... and very entertaining which makes him a good educator too!
Would someone please invite Chris to your BBQ? The man is STARVING! How many more hints does he need to drop until we get this man a steak and baked potato?
11:30 if you can explain it to a child, you understand it well enough.
How true this sentence is, this is some gold masterpiece of mixing advice from CLA here, and I appreciate it. Time to stop randomly picking Reverbs and Delays and starting to make a Depth template in my DAW.
This guy simply rules. Thanks Waves Audio. Nuf said.
i love the manner how he´s explain
THIS IS AMAZING. thanks for explaining the process
Great lesson! Will implement what I learned immediately, Thanks!!!
Been waiting for this one!
It's like "The Wizard Of Oz" from black & White to full color :)
And keep away from them plain donuts!
8:48 I think I know what the new plugin is gonna do. Either a routing plugin of sorts or some sort of reverb/delay plugin with all the routing incorporated.
RIP Mr Bruce Swedien you will be missed 😢 🙏 💔
So Reverb C is Hall on the plug-in - is that the EMT & Yamaha combined?
And Reverb D is Space - is that the Eventide or the AMS? He mentions the Eventide as a Hall, but that’s the EMT & Yamaha?! Any clarification Waves?…
Great Fx! Love the sound
Correction: Chris's assistant will show you how to do it in your DAW, Chris will use the real thing.
Buses/Sends don't seem that hard to do in a DAW. Not sure why he says that?
@@MixChecks some just prefer a hardware and mix console. Its where he feels most comfortable.
@@MixChecks i think he’s just much more comfortable doing it his way. I actually watched this video and then went and tried this approach on a mix. The routing wasn’t that big of a deal at all. The automation, on the other hand, was pretty intensive.
He wants you to think that so that you buy the plugin
Wish you went further on the routing. Like how does a channel that is setup for a reverb actually gets routed anywhere else on the console for use by separate channel instruments/vocals. Are those first 8 channels on the console acting as AUX's or inserts?
Hey, it can be misleading as he’s flying the left faders and keeps referring to them as sends when they are the returns, they aren’t inserts, the inserts are for eq, comp or whatever and done via patch bay and just inserted by a single button half way up the channel strip. At the top of the SSL is the routing matrix (48 small plastic buttons) it allows you to route a channel to somewhere else on the desk or route it to an effect patched on the patch bay (small little Red lights) he has the channels routed to all the same fx at once judging from the lights I can see and he seems to have most of the channel sends (5 grey push latch buttons situated just about the record tape enable on each channel) set to 12 or 2 o clock you can see him reach and turn off the sends at times. It can be done in box and only difference would be hitting the send button on by hitting it down on SSL or unmuting the aux send you setup at start of session on a DAW depends how quick you are with a mouse 😁 set up 4 verbs on 4 auxs would do same thing in logic or other DAW, just have sends muted but set to 12 o clock. He might be floating some channel stuff too but that’s another story.
@@edhannigan4327 thanks for the reply - just now saw it - duh on me. Yeah I see some trickery here. Just wished there was something more visual to see the routing techniques as I am trying to emulate this on a Soundcraft board (staying in analog) which has far less sends/returns, auxes, and subgroups.
Awesome effects bank collection!!!
Something about summing effects on an analog signal path, I do it in the box too, but it's just not the same..🛠
such an awesome video! plus I learned a new word: eagernomics!
This guy roasted the hell out of us beginner in mixing
How is the lexicon 480 better than the 224? I always go with the original since thats where the magic started hence calling it the "lexicon 224 reverb sound". It has beautiful magical chorusing halls that make your pads fly & seep through the walls.
224 is great I’m guessing he just had the 480 first. My first studio as a young engineer had both so I consider myself lucky to have used and heard them.
That's the real mixing stuff that nobody teaches. I can't wait to see next episode to see the real usage of this. Hope it will be in-depth enough ;) Thanks a lot for this series!
Hi Chris, amazing video series. You’ve changed my life with these… the H3000 Dense Room is a preset that you’ve tweaked? Any hints on what needs changing on the stock preset? What is it that you needed to tweak? Thank you man..
Eagernomics, new band name
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Does CLA have all effects on vocal sub (I knew that he has crowd) or only on tracks? I mean if he have separate slap and plate/hall for only Lead vocal and only background vocals or if he has all vocals same on vocal sub.
I don't get one thing. The fader control the amount of fx in all the elements at once o it's different? For example: we mix drums and his fx and print it, to continuous with the vocals??
Kids be thinking the 480 is just the LARC controller 😁 the 480 is a mother of a 4U faceless rack mount unit, I loved using all this stuff back in the day.
12:37
Actually when that house landed....the lawsuits ensued ! LOL
Thanks Chris that was awesomeness !!!!
🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
This is great.. And the best part is I totally get what he is saying :)
Looks like we’re looking at a series of new CLA plugins for this kind of workflow, of which one will be the free giveaway.
Are all of his reverbs coming into the desk in mono?
Good question!
I doubt it. The independent left and right outputs from stereo fx units would be going into two seperate mono channels of the console and panned left and right. So if you have 4 stereo fx units you will use up 8 mono channels of the console.
Example, the left output of your reverb unit goes into mono channel 1 of the console and panned left and the right output goes into mono channel two of the console and panned right
This man is a music chemist
Chris you ROCK! Thanks for sharing. WAVES you rock too... lol
9:57 - 10:08 on repeat. 🔂
Love that part. What is zippo?
And whammo?
Legend 🙌
This is gold!