@@demetriusmccray1574 he’s speaking the truth, the progression is for hell, they change Islam for validation from others and out of their whims and desires, we don’t accept this.
Salam to all, I am an Arabic speaking person and Arabic is my mother tongue. The verses you have mentioned and interpreted do not have any conitation or hidden meaning that only forced homosexuality is haram. Homosexuality is haram weather consentiual or forced. Having homosexuals during the prophets time or in any other culture does not make it right. It is wrong. You are a Fitnah person trying to sugar coat homosexuality. May Allah saves all.
Look, do you have prove of what you said? From quran? In the end it's diffrent interpretations, I side with the one I feel right, that is Islam is loving and accepting, don't believe me? Give me proof iam wrong
@@minabish1783 {53:45} and that He created pairs, the male and the female {7:80} and (We sent) Lot when he said to his people: What! Do you commit an indecency which anyone in the world has not done before you?
Have you considered that you're spreading Fitna by refusing to consider an interpretation that has been regarded by other scholars of Islam, including Arabic speaking ones, and using your interpretation to condemn something you barely understand?
@@Zauree no, but what about you? Have you considered that you are not accepting people in islam when they might be? branding people for something they can't control and leading them to believe Allah and their own relegion doesn't accept them? Punish them for how Allah made them by refusing interpretions that say they are accepted and can be Muslims ? Also not all scholars say so, there are many on LGBT side, in the end it's up to you which side you believe Islam is in, for me, Islam is loving and freeing, orderly yes, but also accepting and fair, and more importantly peace bringing and seeking, I really love it, so a side that hates using Islam and another accepting, my side is very clear
The fitnah appears to be getting worse and worse. Brothers and sisters always pray to Allah and obey his law. Stick to your faith, follow the sunnah of Prophet pbuh. Continue to seek beneficial knowledge. Do not be misled by these individuals. I have said what I have said, and may peace be upon all.
So his arguments are bad? Why? What’s is your reasoning and argument? If you can’t provide reasons for your dismissal of his statements then kindly hold your thoughts to yourself
@@FOLKTALES456 you sir most definitely did not. You repeated your talking points nothing more. And the reason I’m being “rude” is that gay people do not go to y’all’s videos and take away y’all’s hope for salvation . This man provided a logical explanation of homosexuality within Islam and you Made it a point to dismiss it with “just read the Quran “ it’s annoying and lazy. That’s all
the more and more you read these comments the more and more you realize some people on this earth are viscerally hurt by other people liking who they like. may allah swt have mercy on all of us especially whoever accused this man with takfir
You can't report videos simply because you disagree with their content. I am a former Christian and atheist considering converting to Islam. I am a straight male who is only attracted to females, but I care deeply about the welfare other others, including those in the LGPTQ community. People like you make me hesitate becoming a muslim because you endorse the oppression of women and the condemnation of sexual minorities that occurs is certain fundamentalist communities, but not all. I believe God loves all his creation and the divisions are products of the weakness of men. I am attracted to the words of the Prophet, peace be upon him, and wish to live according to the Five Pillars of Islam, but people like you are an obstacle. I see the hand of God in the beauty of all creation, even those people you seem to detest. The scientific evidence for the genetic determination of sexual orientation among LGBTQ people from birth is overwhelming and I refuse to believe God makes mistakes.
@SassySam Being a lover of LGBTQ or as one is one thing and it is your choice, but twisting revelations as the Quran is something else you have no right to do.
@SassySam Read the Qur'an. Say,1 "O My servants who have believed, fear your Lord. For those who do good in this world is good, and the earth of Allāh is spacious. Indeed, the patient will be given their reward without account [i.e., limit]."39.10 Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allāh. Indeed, Allāh forgives all sins.1 Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful." 39.53
No. Perhaps you should stop lying to yourself and accept the clear verses of the Quran regarding this issue. Any person who says they are Muslim but reject any part of the Qur'an is an apostate.
You're a brave man. I agree with most of what you say (the people of Lot were doing much worse things, they weren't condemned for gay sex) but I disagree with some of your opinions. Sodomy was a symptom of their sexual excess. The Qur'an states the ACT is unnatural and denying women for men is ignorant. Gay people are not bad but having gay sex is one of their sins. Its up to them to use their plight to be better Muslims and use Islam to temper their lusts so its not forced on others. Also, transgenderism is not promoted anywhere in the Qur'an and I think you're just flat out wrong suggesting sodomy is okay if the men identify as women. Then every gay man should just identify as women to trick Allah? I don't think it works that way.
Surat No 7 : سورة الأعراف - Ayat No 80-81 "And we sent lut (lut) while he said to his people: you do (a) obscene act which no one has done before you from the worlds. You fulfil your sexual desires with men, except for women, but you have passed the limit".
It also later says let Allah judge for he is the best of judges. He is a forgiving God a merciful understanding God and I trust him to judge me more than man. You should at the very least hold judgement for Allah and not chuck stones like the mortals do in his name.
@@SuperbiainProelioCitizen They are studying the scriptures and coming to different conclusions, we have this in sikhism too. A example of their study: "The great thing about the Quran is that it is consistent. This means that if you have a bad interpretation, you can actually cross-reference it with other parts of the Quran to see if it holds water. If it lacks consistency, there is some flaw. Here are your "strong convincing" points you can use for a well-known point: • One argument is that Lut a.s. provides a "heterosexual alternative" for the mob of men: his own daughters! This contradicts the Quran in at least two places: • "Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry but a woman similarly guilty…” (Qur’an 24:3). • If you see them as mere adulterers, and not rapists, you can also use this: "Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry but a woman similarly guilty…” (Qur’an 24:3). • As a bonus, you can also consider the fact that women traditionally are not able to marry multiple men. Lut a.s. (pious) daughters are likely few in number, so how will they marry a whole mob of (evil) men? • Some claim that Lut a.s. is the "symbolic father" of his town and that the towns women are his "daughters". This is also bogus because the Qur’an says that Lut (a.s.) was a brother to them (Qur’an 26:161), not a father. In that vein, he would have endorsed his sisters of the community, not daughters. • His townsmen were already married anyway. Their spouses are mentioned in Verses 26:165-166. Now regarding "You approach men besides women, you are indeed a people of excess", that is pretty misleading translation, especially with the "you are indeed" part. Particularly "indeed". In Arabic the word is "bal". That word essentially means, "No, but" or "No, rather" or "not so" or "No/But, on the contrary". In essence it negates a previous point, but affirms the truth of what comes after, creating a break or separate between the -before and -after ideas. He is saying that what they are doing exceeds or transgressing lusting men besides women, i.e. they can't even be called gay. If you want to read a long article that addresses every single traditional homophobic point ever made, from those verses, to Lut a.s. daughters, to rape, etc., I recommend reading this one. I took the points above from it. Even Daniel Haq******* has seen it but has been unable to debunk it, so he just ignores it: thefatalfeminist.com/2020/12/07/prophet-lut-a-s-and-bal-%d8%a8%d9%84-the-nahida-s-nisa-tafsir/"
@@G_Singh222 when the overwhelming majority of the Muslim Ummah translate the Quranic verses that speak about Qaum Lut as very clearly addressing and prohibiting homosexuality, you have to really ask yourself why that is. The entirety of our Islamic scholars (now and throughout history) are all in par with that specific translation and conclusion (scholars that are a million times more qualified than you and me). Not to mention every Abrahamic religion has the same conclusion regarding homosexuality also. What this man in the video is doing, is translating the Quran according to his wishful thinking and Islam is innocent of people like him.
@@SuperbiainProelioCitizen But on what basis did they chose this translation ? Also we have the same translation problem in the bible, why do all those scholars chose that translation ? On what basis ? From my understanding they chose this because of their personal hatred against homosexuals, otherwise there’s no real basis.
If there's no problem with being the way one is and yet if others unjustly and thoughtlessly attack you, then the bad effects of doing so will return to the attackers and their descendants
Surah Mu'minun verse 1-7 "1. Certainly will the believers have succeeded: 2. They who are during their prayer humbly submissive 3. And they who turn away from ill speech 4. And they who are observant of zakah 5. And they who guard their private parts 6. Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed - 7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors " Thoes who want to seek refuge of Allah, path is very clear and straight for them. And obviously Satan is the one who mix the lies with the truth so that they can deceive human and lead to hell.
If people are so scared of other people's reactions regarding private activities, they can simply choose the middle way course,ie.masturbation.This way, neither one's sexuality is denied nor there's involvement with another person
Iam bi Muslim and I agree and all but something doesn't make sense, in the first interpretation, deriving women of their sexual right, that part isn't explained in the Arabic verse, I mean it seems as like this, you approach men and exclude women, if the exlution is forceful, does that mean they approach men with conset? But not women?or the other way around, either way doesn't make sense, the verse is continuse in Arabic right? That is you approach men sexual excluding women, this is the only part that doesn't make sense
This channel is a blessing in every sense of the word. You are providing a safe for all Muslims who have been pushed to the edges of their faith, and you are brave enough to challenge harmful ideology that causes discourse in the Ummah.
May Allah guide you to the truth if you genuinely seek it. This peeson in the video is wrong, I am an Arabic speaking person and Arabic is my mother tongue. What he is propogating is far from the truth. The Quran (the word of Allah) condemns homosexuality.
@@Let-the-Sunnah-go-forth I don't think you grasp the full extent of being transgender. The entire point is that they were never truly aligned with their physical body. Their soul is of another gender, and it causes them distress, to put it in a religious way.
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"Muslim for progressive values"
Where is this progression? Towards hellfire?
There’s no need to be nasty and rude
Made me laugh bro 😂😂
@@demetriusmccray1574 he’s speaking the truth, the progression is for hell, they change Islam for validation from others and out of their whims and desires, we don’t accept this.
@@demetriusmccray1574 Its literally the truth
you are right. please report this channel.
Salam to all, I am an Arabic speaking person and Arabic is my mother tongue. The verses you have mentioned and interpreted do not have any conitation or hidden meaning that only forced homosexuality is haram. Homosexuality is haram weather consentiual or forced. Having homosexuals during the prophets time or in any other culture does not make it right. It is wrong. You are a Fitnah person trying to sugar coat homosexuality. May Allah saves all.
Look, do you have prove of what you said? From quran? In the end it's diffrent interpretations, I side with the one I feel right, that is Islam is loving and accepting, don't believe me? Give me proof iam wrong
@@minabish1783
{53:45} and that He created pairs, the male and the female
{7:80} and (We sent) Lot when he said to his people: What! Do you commit an indecency which anyone in the world has not done before you?
Have you considered that you're spreading Fitna by refusing to consider an interpretation that has been regarded by other scholars of Islam, including Arabic speaking ones, and using your interpretation to condemn something you barely understand?
@@Zauree no, but what about you? Have you considered that you are not accepting people in islam when they might be? branding people for something they can't control and leading them to believe Allah and their own relegion doesn't accept them? Punish them for how Allah made them by refusing interpretions that say they are accepted and can be Muslims ? Also not all scholars say so, there are many on LGBT side, in the end it's up to you which side you believe Islam is in, for me, Islam is loving and freeing, orderly yes, but also accepting and fair, and more importantly peace bringing and seeking, I really love it, so a side that hates using Islam and another accepting, my side is very clear
@@minabish1783your side is clear cut kufr and shirk 😂
😂🤣someone is paying them too much for all this
The fitnah appears to be getting worse and worse. Brothers and sisters always pray to Allah and obey his law. Stick to your faith, follow the sunnah of Prophet pbuh. Continue to seek beneficial knowledge. Do not be misled by these individuals. I have said what I have said, and may peace be upon all.
So his arguments are bad? Why? What’s is your reasoning and argument? If you can’t provide reasons for your dismissal of his statements then kindly hold your thoughts to yourself
@tysonvslewis12 no, I won't. I just said Quran and Sunnah, theirs your proof.
@@FOLKTALES456 solid argument! Lmao. The best debaters are always the most intellectually lazy ones!
@tysonvslewis12 I assure you I'm not. I gave you an answer, and you seem to have chosen to be a rude individual.
@@FOLKTALES456 you sir most definitely did not. You repeated your talking points nothing more. And the reason I’m being “rude” is that gay people do not go to y’all’s videos and take away y’all’s hope for salvation . This man provided a logical explanation of homosexuality within Islam and you Made it a point to dismiss it with “just read the Quran “ it’s annoying and lazy. That’s all
Wallahi this is an attack on Islam may Allah help this ummah and guide us all as he is all knowing and hearing
Wahabi najdi bidah
ameen
they get money to present Islam like this
@@ibrah6858
Funny, coming from a salafi
the more and more you read these comments the more and more you realize some people on this earth are viscerally hurt by other people liking who they like. may allah swt have mercy on all of us especially whoever accused this man with takfir
Reporting this channel is the right thing to do
Yes don’t debate! Shit it down! Allah forbid someone use their brain instead of their hate right!!!
Attack on islam
No toleration on addition/misguiding the muslims
Be fearful for the day you are all accountable to your almighty
this isnt even funny
Report the videos
You can't report videos simply because you disagree with their content. I am a former Christian and atheist considering converting to Islam. I am a straight male who is only attracted to females, but I care deeply about the welfare other others, including those in the LGPTQ community. People like you make me hesitate becoming a muslim because you endorse the oppression of women and the condemnation of sexual minorities that occurs is certain fundamentalist communities, but not all. I believe God loves all his creation and the divisions are products of the weakness of men. I am attracted to the words of the Prophet, peace be upon him, and wish to live according to the Five Pillars of Islam, but people like you are an obstacle. I see the hand of God in the beauty of all creation, even those people you seem to detest. The scientific evidence for the genetic determination of sexual orientation among LGBTQ people from birth is overwhelming and I refuse to believe God makes mistakes.
@SassySam
Being a lover of LGBTQ or as one is one thing and it is your choice, but twisting revelations as the Quran is something else you have no right to do.
@SassySam Read the Qur'an.
Say,1 "O My servants who have believed, fear your Lord. For those who do good in this world is good, and the earth of Allāh is spacious. Indeed, the patient will be given their reward without account [i.e., limit]."39.10
Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allāh. Indeed, Allāh forgives all sins.1 Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful." 39.53
@SassySamRead it again. learn tawhid and aqidah
@SassySam how many raka'ats in tawhid prayer?
Does anyone know any Muslims on UA-cam that are progressive and pro gay that are active and post often on UA-cam?
No. Perhaps you should stop lying to yourself and accept the clear verses of the Quran regarding this issue. Any person who says they are Muslim but reject any part of the Qur'an is an apostate.
The end time is very close
Fitnah everywhere
You're a brave man. I agree with most of what you say (the people of Lot were doing much worse things, they weren't condemned for gay sex) but I disagree with some of your opinions. Sodomy was a symptom of their sexual excess. The Qur'an states the ACT is unnatural and denying women for men is ignorant. Gay people are not bad but having gay sex is one of their sins. Its up to them to use their plight to be better Muslims and use Islam to temper their lusts so its not forced on others. Also, transgenderism is not promoted anywhere in the Qur'an and I think you're just flat out wrong suggesting sodomy is okay if the men identify as women. Then every gay man should just identify as women to trick Allah? I don't think it works that way.
Astagfurllia.
May Allah guide all of us.
This guy is a joke and making a clown out of himself.
What the hell you all are doing
Wallahi you are destroyed
Surat No 7 : سورة الأعراف - Ayat No 80-81
"And we sent lut (lut) while he said to his people: you do (a) obscene act which no one has done before you from the worlds. You fulfil your sexual desires with men, except for women, but you have passed the limit".
It also later says let Allah judge for he is the best of judges. He is a forgiving God a merciful understanding God and I trust him to judge me more than man. You should at the very least hold judgement for Allah and not chuck stones like the mortals do in his name.
@@dexlab7794did God forgive the people of Lut or did he exterminate them?
Stop lying to yourself
@@dexlab7794Were the people of lut forgiven? Or were they punished? They were made an example for a reason.
HOW?! WHY?! Oh my god. I am speechless! May Allah guide these people from the ignorant darkness to the light. Islam is innocent from this blasphemy
They are on the right path
@@G_Singh222that’s as ridiculous as me (a Muslim) telling you which Sikhs are on the right path
@@SuperbiainProelioCitizen
They are studying the scriptures and coming to different conclusions, we have this in sikhism too.
A example of their study:
"The great thing about the Quran is that it is consistent. This means that if you have a bad interpretation, you can actually cross-reference it with other parts of the Quran to see if it holds water. If it lacks consistency, there is some flaw.
Here are your "strong convincing" points you can use for a well-known point:
• One argument is that Lut a.s. provides a "heterosexual alternative" for the mob of men: his own daughters! This contradicts the Quran in at least two places:
• "Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry but a woman similarly guilty…” (Qur’an 24:3).
• If you see them as mere adulterers, and not rapists, you can also use this: "Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry but a woman similarly guilty…” (Qur’an 24:3).
• As a bonus, you can also consider the fact that women traditionally are not able to marry multiple men. Lut a.s. (pious) daughters are likely few in number, so how will they marry a whole mob of (evil) men?
• Some claim that Lut a.s. is the "symbolic father" of his town and that the towns women are his "daughters". This is also bogus because the Qur’an says that Lut (a.s.) was a brother to them (Qur’an 26:161), not a father. In that vein, he would have endorsed his sisters of the community, not daughters.
• His townsmen were already married anyway. Their spouses are mentioned in Verses 26:165-166.
Now regarding "You approach men besides women, you are indeed a people of excess", that is pretty misleading translation, especially with the "you are indeed" part. Particularly "indeed". In Arabic the word is "bal". That word essentially means, "No, but" or "No, rather" or "not so" or "No/But, on the contrary". In essence it negates a previous point, but affirms the truth of what comes after, creating a break or separate between the -before and -after ideas. He is saying that what they are doing exceeds or transgressing lusting men besides women, i.e. they can't even be called gay.
If you want to read a long article that addresses every single traditional homophobic point ever made, from those verses, to Lut a.s. daughters, to rape, etc., I recommend reading this one. I took the points above from it. Even Daniel Haq******* has seen it but has been unable to debunk it, so he just ignores it:
thefatalfeminist.com/2020/12/07/prophet-lut-a-s-and-bal-%d8%a8%d9%84-the-nahida-s-nisa-tafsir/"
@@G_Singh222 when the overwhelming majority of the Muslim Ummah translate the Quranic verses that speak about Qaum Lut as very clearly addressing and prohibiting homosexuality, you have to really ask yourself why that is. The entirety of our Islamic scholars (now and throughout history) are all in par with that specific translation and conclusion (scholars that are a million times more qualified than you and me). Not to mention every Abrahamic religion has the same conclusion regarding homosexuality also. What this man in the video is doing, is translating the Quran according to his wishful thinking and Islam is innocent of people like him.
@@SuperbiainProelioCitizen
But on what basis did they chose this translation ? Also we have the same translation problem in the bible, why do all those scholars chose that translation ? On what basis ? From my understanding they chose this because of their personal hatred against homosexuals, otherwise there’s no real basis.
Blasphemy!
Bid3ah Bid3ah Bid3ah Bid3ah all bid3ah not one bit of true may allah punish you for all those you have misguided
If there's no problem with being the way one is and yet if others unjustly and thoughtlessly attack you, then the bad effects of doing so will return to the attackers and their descendants
Homosexuality is haram in islam
Nauzubillah they are interpreting the messageof quran very wrongly😑😮💨
في سورة الأعراف من الآية 79 إلى الآية 84his thé trut
WHAT THE HELL. WHAT HAS ISLAM BECOME. THIS IS THE SIGN OF QIYAMAH. PREPARE!
Islam has not become anything it is these idiots who are trying to impersonate muslims
Surah Mu'minun verse 1-7
"1. Certainly will the believers have succeeded:
2. They who are during their prayer humbly submissive
3. And they who turn away from ill speech
4. And they who are observant of zakah 5. And they who guard their private parts
6. Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed -
7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors "
Thoes who want to seek refuge of Allah, path is very clear and straight for them. And obviously Satan is the one who mix the lies with the truth so that they can deceive human and lead to hell.
If people are so scared of other people's reactions regarding private activities, they can simply choose the middle way course,ie.masturbation.This way, neither one's sexuality is denied nor there's involvement with another person
Yeah but remember masturbation isn't a substitute for an intimate long term relationship.
Don’t do masturbation as some say it’s haram and some say it’s disliked. It’s better to get married and if you can’t get married, try to fast more.
@@hihello-yv2ttthat’s a child’s viewpoint of sex and adulthood. Why is it so important to control the lives of others?
@@tysonvslewis12it's not about controlling others. It's about controlling yourself.
@@LordxCurry it absolutely is about controlling others!!!
Iam bi Muslim and I agree and all but something doesn't make sense, in the first interpretation, deriving women of their sexual right, that part isn't explained in the Arabic verse, I mean it seems as like this, you approach men and exclude women, if the exlution is forceful, does that mean they approach men with conset? But not women?or the other way around, either way doesn't make sense, the verse is continuse in Arabic right? That is you approach men sexual excluding women, this is the only part that doesn't make sense
BECAUSE LGBBQ IS HARAM
😳😳😳😳
Report them all ... this is not going to be tolerated
Reporting is useless.
@@محمدعبدالمحيط-ذ8و But in the roz e mehshar we can say that we didi a attempt to block this type of news.
ᑭᖇOᗰOᔕᗰ
This Guys are not muslims
May Allah hold you to account for your deviances
@@Let-the-Sunnah-go-forthameen
This channel is a blessing in every sense of the word. You are providing a safe for all Muslims who have been pushed to the edges of their faith, and you are brave enough to challenge harmful ideology that causes discourse in the Ummah.
These guys are APOSTATES they are not Muslim
Just a bunch of infidelic Hypocrites trying to change Islam
@@raniaa5949 The way you wish to spread it brings irony to the name "Islam".
Wtf
May Allah guide you to the truth if you genuinely seek it. This peeson in the video is wrong, I am an Arabic speaking person and Arabic is my mother tongue. What he is propogating is far from the truth. The Quran (the word of Allah) condemns homosexuality.
This channel has his own islam it has no authentication.
To all people of diversity you are greatly loved. Thanks Moula Mohsin Hendricks for giving a different perspective.
Thank you. I became a Muslism in 2019 and I am a transgender man. Thank you for telling the truth.
What Cap🧢
I'm so happy for you, and I'm very sorry for all the hateful Muslims out there.
@@raniaa5949 How can you call them "facts" with nothing to back them up? You are spewing out your own thoughts.
@@Let-the-Sunnah-go-forth So do would you stay a baby, because "that is how you were born as", then?
@@Let-the-Sunnah-go-forth I don't think you grasp the full extent of being transgender. The entire point is that they were never truly aligned with their physical body.
Their soul is of another gender, and it causes them distress, to put it in a religious way.
Grand Job on making this ✊
im not good at english but im trying to learn this thank you for sharing it's useful 💕
This channel doesn't promoting the islam rather it against tge teaching of islam
@@saadbhai2452 yea this is not Islam
safe yourself
homophobes are coming idc about yall only god can judge us not you guys 🤷♀️
@@saadbhai2452 agree 👍
bnda faake krna ki acting hi seekh leta hai.
What a sleight of hand😂 rejected!