Saxophone Repair Topic: Making Shellac Sticks

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • Saxophone repairman Matt Stohrer of www.StohrerMusi... gets you up close to the action as he makes a stick of shellac in real time. You'll want to watch it again, and again, and again! If you are into self-harm, that is.
    Video about how shellac is made: • Shellac Origins and Ma...
    Neato bonus video about making shellac records from way back in the day: • Video
    You want dewaxed shellac flakes, like the stuff here: www.ferreestool...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 42

  • @markseyerle7921
    @markseyerle7921 3 місяці тому

    So informative. Been playing for 60yrs. College trained. Now time to finally maintain and repair mine.

  • @nickm8134
    @nickm8134 Рік тому +2

    Hi Matt - only 7 years late! - just tried this and following your instructions it was so easy. I used a marble pastry board - about 1/2" thick I guess and it worked perfectly to shape the sticks. Made a few different diameters as suggested. Thanks for these videos, so much appreciated!

  • @andrewlong2272
    @andrewlong2272 Рік тому

    I just made my first few shellac sticks and learned a ton about the physical properties of the material that I don’t think I would have learned otherwise. This seems really important to do early on.

  • @juanhundo
    @juanhundo 2 роки тому

    Absolute legend. Ex sax player, now hobbyist jeweler with a tone of shellac flakes and zero idea how to get them onto my chains for filing! I made a mess. So much mess. This is a life saver.

  • @chrisconlon7970
    @chrisconlon7970 4 роки тому +3

    I really wasn't looking for this. I use and have a lot of shellac for my wood finishes, I really need shellac sticks , so thanks a bunch.

  • @manosaxy
    @manosaxy 8 років тому +4

    Hi Matt. I made some sticks using your method. The exception was that I used a marble tile that I purchased from my local home center. It worked great. Thanks for all the great info.

  • @speakingwithareed3405
    @speakingwithareed3405 2 роки тому +2

    Could you make these faster in the oven and then use a hot knife to cut the sticks to your likable size?

  • @thespiritof76..
    @thespiritof76.. 5 років тому

    I haven’t even watched your video, but 👍🏻 up because not even knowing of this tech I was planning on trying this to get away from using contact cement and hot glue... I use real shellac for finish repairs but have found myself accepting more and more repairs for B&O instruments...nice video, I don’t have to wonder if I was gonna waist a bunch of my vintage amber! Lol

  • @josephallanjohnson
    @josephallanjohnson 8 років тому

    This project is killing! Great Work.

  • @cristianomaker
    @cristianomaker Місяць тому

    amazing ! thanks

  • @gabeinhawaii
    @gabeinhawaii 4 роки тому +4

    Wondering what difference it makes if you use waxed vs de waxed?
    Thanks

    • @Tuca-Luthier.
      @Tuca-Luthier. 2 роки тому

      Bom dia amigo, você descobriu a diferença?

  • @alfreducu1
    @alfreducu1 5 років тому

    Great vid, thanks for sharing.

  • @meljazz
    @meljazz 8 років тому +1

    Matt, what color is the flake shellac in the video?

  • @patoni860
    @patoni860 4 роки тому +1

    Granite doesn't hold heat very well... It will flake off and hit you in the face and put your eye out... You can actually use that little torch you have right there to make thermal flame Granite face... Or that texture you find on granite on steps... That's called thermal flame finish and you used a regular handheld torch to repair the large pieces or make additional pieces... So you do not want to use Granite when you're using Flame... marble cools at a faster pace... And it holds heat transfer better... For safety sake I would get a piece of marble to do this on

  • @Anonarchist
    @Anonarchist 7 років тому +1

    would a heat gun not work without burning the flakes?

  • @KJ7JHN
    @KJ7JHN Рік тому

    denatured alcohol in a large straw?

  • @iostocoipappagalli
    @iostocoipappagalli 4 роки тому

    Hi, please can you tell me what kind of shellac do you use¿ orange or dry shellac ¿ or others¿ thanks

  • @chamindamusic
    @chamindamusic 8 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @RivieraByBuick
    @RivieraByBuick 3 роки тому

    is it possible to use older shellac music recording discs to produce a shellac stick for repadding or is that a different type of shellac?

  • @kieranburns648
    @kieranburns648 8 років тому

    If you tilted the tray, would the side of your tray not naturally shape the stick straight for you as it melts towards one side.

  • @georgf9279
    @georgf9279 3 роки тому

    Why dewaxed? What is the difference in this use case?
    What does the low temperature for plasticity mean for using the horn? Could I get the horn warm enough when playing outside on a hot day that pads in, say, the plam key area start to move?
    What's pros and cons of shellac vs those hot glue beads that, I presume, get soft at a higher temperature?

    • @StohrerMusic
      @StohrerMusic  3 роки тому +2

      dewaxed because that is what instrument repair shellac is made of. you can try waxed and tell me why. low temp means you won't burn lacquer heating it. not warm enough when playing, but leaving horns in a car on a hot summer day is a bad idea regardless of your pad adhesive choice.
      glues have varying melt temps.

    • @georgf9279
      @georgf9279 3 роки тому +2

      @@StohrerMusic Thank you for your quick answer to my question below such an old video. I must say, I didn't expect that. Hats off.

  • @conn6345
    @conn6345 7 років тому

    A lot of help, ive used the sticks ive made many times now, much chesper than storebought

  • @zacharyshepard2732
    @zacharyshepard2732 8 років тому

    Awesome video! I was wondering what kind of blow torch you use or would recommend without spending too much money.

    • @StohrerMusic
      @StohrerMusic  8 років тому +1

      cheap ones aren't worth the money. blazer es-1000 is the one to get.

  • @bnolsen
    @bnolsen 7 років тому

    i wonder how well a silicone baking sheet would work for this? Maybe not so great with the direct torch.

  • @jeffreyherring8685
    @jeffreyherring8685 3 роки тому

    Matt. There are many de-waxed options. Are you using blonde, super blonde, garnet etc….

  • @matthewdickmanmusic7275
    @matthewdickmanmusic7275 8 років тому

    Really interesting!

  • @Matiastchicourel
    @Matiastchicourel 7 років тому

    Hi , Did you know the technique of dissolving the shellac in a small pot with alcohol on kitchen , then applies to the pad and the cup? Specially for clarinets? Thanks!

    • @StohrerMusic
      @StohrerMusic  Рік тому

      I was taught this as Sax Machine in Paris but I have not integrated it into my repair style. Super cool how it works though, and definitely a traditional skill I would like to hone at some point.

  • @thespiritof76..
    @thespiritof76.. 5 років тому

    Nice tip at the end...

  • @TradIrishHarper
    @TradIrishHarper Рік тому

    Looks like a Tootsie Roll

  • @carsmatccarot56
    @carsmatccarot56 5 років тому +1

    Looks like a slim jim hahahaha

  • @Passion613
    @Passion613 7 років тому

    Hi Matt, where do you get your pads? And would you happen to know the pad sizes for a Martin Handcraft Low Pitch Standard Alto? Thanks.

  • @Jazzmarcel
    @Jazzmarcel 7 років тому

    I've been using glue sticks to change my own pads everytime I find one odd worn pad. my question is what are the benefits to using shellac?....

    • @Ucceah
      @Ucceah 7 років тому +2

      it's one of these ancient (traditional would be an understatement) materials, that have just stood the test of time. similiar to hide glue or pitch. think of it as a brand of all natural hot glue, that stuck around for the last 3000 years. all 3 have in common, that they remain "temporary" for decades, if not centuries.

    • @StohrerMusic
      @StohrerMusic  7 років тому

      the melt temp is different, the plastic state is different, the hardened state is different. whether or not you like to work with it better is a matter of personal taste.

  • @naini2580
    @naini2580 5 років тому +1

    bug excretion taffy! :D

  • @sunilpateli
    @sunilpateli Рік тому

    Mi