The AI can't understand that it shouldn't stand in the rot flower, so it's near impossible to beat Malenia for any other boss unless they have the HP to not care about it.
Yeah but at the same time malenia ai doesn’t allow her to get away from radahns 20 move relentless combos so it’s fair game I’d say she won 2-0 they both died first round 😂
@@omnianima5395the swamp of aeonia could’ve not always been a swamp, maybe it used to be dunes until she bloomed and then the swamp formed, which is full of rot
@@spacefaringyoshi Radhan fanboy wanna talk lore? Go on. If we look at only the game info we have malenia sleeped to wait for miquella. She was not in a xalking state after the fight if we look at finlay is description but at the very least she still have her mind. Radhan was prob asleep when finlay came to take her because even rotten radhan can handle several cleanrot knight (shown in his cinematic).
I've been saying this. Their fight wasn't a stalemate if she resorted to scarlet rot. Why infect a whole region if not? Radahn must've been close to winning.
@@Bl913her only goal is to kill radahn so miquella can snatch his soul. So she did whatever means necessary. And shes a goddess of rot after all thats a part of her anyways.
lmao Radahn seeing Malenia about to go nuclear and decide to PULL her fucking nuke in to continue the fight is such a Radahn thing to do. and then falls because of the rot after beating tf outa her as well. that’s actually lore accurate.
because the dlc bosses are bloated damage wise and combo wise and harder to stagger. nothing against this radhan. its just power creep to make the game a challenge for us players who had 2 years to paly with the base game.
@@raiden3013 this makes no sense at all. The same logic applies to the progression through Elden Ring and the fact that we see Malenia at the end and Radahn at the beginning.
He's right, the dlc bosses hit harder. If the uploader to this video had increased Malenia's strength equal to Radahn's, it would be curtains for Radahn. There are videos showing that exact scenario. Malenia is just damn good for him
Well the original fight ended in a draw, ONLY because Malenia was losing, and had to pretty much nuke herself (and that entire portion of the map) and even then, she needed one of her knights take her to safety. It to mention Radhann was holding the stars back at the time, significantly taking away from his power. Pretty sure Miaquella made the right choice.
@@Luca-bel while radahn is most likely the stronger demigod pre rot goddess transformation. there is nothing to suggest holding back the stars wasn actively making him weaker. this isn't anime
@@eganzacher5455 bruh, I don’t even watch anime. It’s just common sense. Imagine concentrating on two extremely difficult things at the same time, in this case, fighting off Melania, and holding back the falling star beasts (stars) at the same time.
It's similar to the actual story. Radan, who is dying after Radan is cursed by corruption, is said to have been limited and was close to defeat in the war, shows him being pushed back by Malenia. On the other hand, Radan in his heyday definitely drives Malenia, which is similar to the composition in the trailer, but if Malenia blooms a flower of decay close to a bomber, Radan in his heyday can also die.
Why are people asking for Radahn’s second phase with Miquella... That defeats the whole point of this fight which is to try to recreate prime Radahn vs prime Malenia when they fought in the lore. But if you ask me this is already biased in Radahn’s favour because he scales way higher than Malenia due to the new scadutree fragment system in the dlc
If the AI knew better than to stand in the rot flower, consort radhan would have won. It's kind of impressive seeing him cut through her first phase like butter though.
am i seriously seeing people get mad at the OP for being "biased towards malenia" when there's no second phase radahn despite the fact that 1. they tied first round 2. DLC bosses are ALWAYS stronger than maingame bosses 3. he didn't even scale her HP or stats to DLC level and 4. second phase radahn is two people? "scarlet rot is broken weahhh" this is crybaby shit, let's all have fun, laugh and enjoy the fake fights without devolving into fanboyism for either character over the outcome of a FAKE fight.
@@shaan7030 but with malenia cant you spawn her second phase independently? since radhan has a single healthbar I believe it wouldnt work but malenia has two
@@molybdenumrose Bro dont even try this 😂 Malenia is an Empyrean. Blessed by a whole ass Outer god. Sure she lacks anything else. But she still has the super human speed and power of an Empyrean. Radahns magic is a technique. Everyone can learn it, its Radahns own energy that powers the Techniques. He himself stopped the stars, no one else who uses gravity can do that. If I teach someone to box, but a bigger boxer 5x the size and speed also learns the same techniques. Who wins? Its pretty obvious Plus Radahn is a tactical military genius who not only mastered space technique gravity, he took it to a NEW level of mastery to the same people who TAUGHT him. And also is a swordsman genius in his own right. And is also on par in sheer strength with Godfrey Just stop
@@molybdenumrose Malenia without scarlett rot outer god abilities is still a beast. But shes no match for Radahn who isnt holding the stars in place. Thats why she even stood a chance in the first place. Obviously no one could account for the scarlett rot powers from the outter god, because Radahn cant match a legit Outter god possesing Malenia.
Malenia's scarlet rot is completely bonkers. 3.3% of HP per second, literally ten times stronger than the best player version of scarlet rot, and it lasts for 5 full minutes.
Radhan would win in normal conditions. Scarlet Rot should not affect him like that, it only affects player this harshly. Scarlet rot on bosses hits for maybe 30 every second which is nothing on a boss with 40,000+ hp. Plus we never see radhan go into phase 2, which he does extremely quick in the fight (at 60-65% of his hp, not half), and in which he's totally unplayable, his hits are still devastating, he hits in AOE with miquella's holy rays. In fair conditions, he would obliterate her, and the only reason player don't get absolutely melted by him is thanks to the scadutree blessing which gives us 100% more damage, and a whole lot of damage negation. Ultimately I think Radhan is a harder boss. Remove malenia's waterfowl and she's almost too easy, whereas Radhan has several moves which are a motherfucker to avoid, plus he hits like a truck. In terms of Tankiness, I'd say they are equal.
The key to which is more difficult is not in rolling or dodging their attacks but actually by blocking. Or I should really say that both bosses require different evading methods to get by, which makes them both hard to judge. Malenia is harder to block simply because you can't use a shield with her, she will heal off that and in her second phase, you really can't get anywhere with blocking, your best bet is dodging out of her way. Radahn is harder to dodge because he's literally relentless, he's meant to be blocked, ideally with a Greatshield, also a thrusting weapon will be ideal too. if you're going to do a dodge test, Malenia is meant to be easier to dodge because that's literally the ONLY way you're supposed to kill her.
So many radahn meat riders that don't realize that he has to be so tuned up because of the scadutree blessing system, it's a miracle malenia could even kill the first phase.
"The Battle of Aeonia: Malenia and Radahn locked in a stalemate, then the Scarlet Rot blooms." Locked in stalemate doesn't sound like either side was destroying each other to me. I'd like to remind you that Radahn had an easy chance to get Malenia off of him before she used the Aeonia, but he was so exhausted from fighting her BEFORE the rot he was on his knees while she drove her blade into his neck for free. It's almost like they actually did equally match one another in skill. Learn to separate your headcanons from canon.
@@Filigree50x in micents questline she tells us that Malenia had to resort to the rot to match radahn. The battle was close but he was early on top. How about learning the lore before acting like you know shit?
@@davidsandoval4290that guy is her waifu boss thats why he defend malenia but that guy doesnt know canonically radahn can kill malenia easier like such a crybaby beacuse radahn is becoming the strongest and hardest boss on game
So we're done now right? Malenia is no longer the hardest? Or do we not count dlc bosses? Somebody tell me Malenia is completely irrelevant now. Please.
Lore accurate...Malenia is helpless against Radahn without the Scarlet Rot Even in their original fight after she unleashed the Scarlet Rot on Radahn she was helpless and would surely have been killed by Radahn (even though he went mad)...and was only alive because one of her associates rescued her for the scene
I always love radahn videos coz theres always a bunch of nerds malding how he beats malenia even tho the creator of the game calls it a draw, makes radahn losing even funnier
I mean, Radahn stage 2 is sided with Miquella, so it would be weird, and I guess this fight is more to see about their own power, not influenced by others
@@jao5739 and Malenia's stage 2 is super juiced up god-strength being borrowed from another entity as well. I feel it's only fair for Radahn to get his stage 2 as well.
It still confuses me that this radahn can still be afflicted by scarlet rot this seems like oversight on miquella's part did he forget to make radahn immune or at least resistant to his weakness if he was going to reanimate him and give him a new body it would have been smart to increase his resistance to the thing he is weak to
@zenildoneto7710 the whole point of his goal was to become a God plus he was trying to recreate radahn using mogh body wouldn't it make sense if your trying to create a All mighty warrior to be his consort/husband and knew that the body's involved have big exploitable weaknesses wouldn't it be smarter to find a way to give the warrior a resistance considering there are ways of making the tarnished more resistant and that he is so attuned with holy and incantations surely he would find a way to stop it or cure it instantly because I don't flame cleanse me is the only spell a God would know to cure it I apologize in advance if I missed Punctuations or misspelled anything I have dyslexia as well as English isn't my first language
Malenia: "So you're my brother's promised consort?" Radahn: "Say again?" Malenia: "you heard me, now pick up your sword - I'll teach you how to swordfight"
This is proof enough right here that Radahn easily would win if that coward Malenia wouldn't have used the scarlet rot to ruin the continent. That act of selfishness is the only reason there was a standstill at all. All hail Radahn, mightiest of the demigods!
cheating...by using her powers in a duel to the death? there is no guidebook on rules they were supposed to be following, she didn't "cheat" by using magic exactly one time after fighting for days to a stalemate without using her rot whatsoever. like you know in the cinematic she brought radahn to his knees and he was so tired and exhausted from fighting her for days without her rot she stabbed him completely for free right? it's almost like they both beat the snot out of each other because they're both insanely strong warriors.
The fact that they died in a tie twice, means that the devs balanced these two out perfectly for lore accuracy. They gave Radahn just the right amount of health, and Malenia, just the right amount of Scarlett Rot damage.
@@spice_59 Damn, Radahn meat riders are cringe LMAO the channel's owner literally said it's almost impossible to make his second phase activate outside of his own arena, blame From, not them lol
This match was not much fair as you nerfed Radahn in at least 2 ways: he doesn't have second phase transition with Miquella saving him from SUCCESSIVE attacks, and the fact he doesn't go second phase but still does the meteorite attack is just a way to weaken him the most.
Malenia is literally a vessel for the goddess of rot lol it's not 1v1 To be fair, there should be a fight with Malenia/rot goddess and Radahn/Miquella @@cucumbers366
He was holding back stars aka METEORITES NOT ACTUAL STARS(while still having access to his magic) She was holding back a Rot God. With most of her body decayed. She stood up, adjusted her prosthesis arm, dodged his attack, severed his legs, and nuked him. Stop being bias. He lost. Period.
@Nova11435 So she didn't reattach her prosthesis? She didn't dash at him and dodged an attack? She didn't deliberately lose her arm and catch the sword with her other hand? Severing his legs is debatable, I guess he's LEGLESS because he severed his own legs, right? Right. Anyway. She didn't mount him somehow even though he's some high and mighty diety? She didn't stab herself and him to unleash the Rot? He didn't lose his mind? She didn't fall unconscious? Get the fuck over it.
@@IIYamiSanII ok then. lets unpack this can of worms. One, It is literally stated in game that he is holding back the stars, and the Astels are malformed stars which invalidates your first point. Second, she wasn't holding back the rot. that was Miquellas unalloyed gold needle restraining it. she had almost nothing to do with it until she broke the needle which unleashed the rot, invalidating your second point, third, her body being decayed doesn't mean much given that her replacement prosthetics operate better than regular limbs given that they have the same mobility and dexterity, with the added bonus of not getting tired, effectively nullifying your third point. got any more? Oh yeah. almost forgot. he is missing his legs because LONG after the battle, due to the scarlet rot infecting him, his body began to rot away and it took his legs, much the same as it did to malenia. you can see this if you actually look closely at his legs. they weren't cut off. they rotted away.
@Nova11435 He was holding back meteors and meteorites. If not for the Unalloyed Golden Needle, she'd already have died and bloomed, more than likely. The Prosthesis was clearly knocked off multiple times, and a Demi-God is unlikely to feel fatigue unless there are grievous injuries present, which, were not. They're both holding back. It's made evident and that's what the lore states. Regardless of what you feel. It's how she was born, she didn't have to hold the Rot back and Radahn wouldn't even be in the conversation. She's an Emperean as well. Who are already a step above anyone else. We don't see exactly when he lost his legs. Her severing them makes more sense than anything else, considering he still has his arms in totality after being Rotted for such a long period of time. That point is clearly debatable, and we know the lore is up for interpretation most of the time. His legs are CLEARLY, cleanly severed. Which means they were cut off. When she mounted him against his will? He didn't move an inch. Why not? Why was she just able to mount him, whisper into his ear, and destroy him? Because he was unable to move. Obviously.
@@IIYamiSanII ah yes. the classic counterpoint of "Nuh uh". and if you don't believe me personally, feel free to spend 30 seconds and realize that the entire community agrees that Radahn's legs were rotted away. and it isn't clean at all lol. there are two theories. 1. after getting rotted, his legs were slowly ground away due to abrasion with the sand as he dragged his legs across the crimson sands. 2. his legs were rotted away because of the disease. and even if he was able to move, her getting on his back, whispering, and bombing took less than ten seconds. he didn't grab her and throw her like a rag doll because plot. there is literally no possible way to restrain a man of that size reasonably.
I mean yes, but their moveset is "easier" than Malenia's so I guess it's tied up a bit, and I choose to believe that they really wanted to do a HARD dlc, but anyways I liked it
@@aganbraganca4156 Kinda? Malenia's goal was to kill Radahn, and she failed in that and had to be spirited away back to the Haligtree. We don't know what Radahn's goal was, but I assume it was NOT getting killed; at best we can say that it was a pyrrhic victory for Radahn.
@@stephenjenkins7971 lmfao no it wasn't. Radahn failed to kill her as well. Malenia got put in a coma and Radahn became a rot zombie. they both tied and there were no victors. it's baffling to me how you people come up with any excuse to try and disprove what is told to you in canon.
@@Dionysus2456 Malenia's war goal was to kill Radahn. It was not Radahn's war goal to kill Malenia. You may as well argue that the Vietnam War was a tie because Vietnam could not defeat the US in its homeland. Whoever invades and fails their objective is defeated.
Radahn has 2nd phase too, it seems unfair that only Malenia has the chance to do it. Radahn would easily win in 2nd face, he has long reach attacks to avoid the rot.
Im pretty sure Radahn due to the Scadu tree blessing scaling stuff has a shit ton more hp than Malenia with both phases and and more damage than a normal Elden Ring boss
According to DLC malenia is losing to radahn on purpose that she carry the whisper of miquella for radahn. So if fight is fair 1 v 1 malenia clear winner
Malenia's Rot is an auto-win in 99% of boss battles. The only ones that can actually defeat her without getting Rot would be Maliketh who keeps his distance by default.
You should of done it on ng 7.... Rahdan has around 90,000 hp lol . Not a good idea to put sound effect with a subscribe button during videos either btw...it's a turn off to most viewers...
Round 1: They both die
Lore accurate.
Basically.
The AI can't understand that it shouldn't stand in the rot flower, so it's near impossible to beat Malenia for any other boss unless they have the HP to not care about it.
Indeed, the damage inflicted by rot is remarkably high and can be quite devastating.
Ironically the boss that beats her most frequently from the base game is the glass cannon malekith
@@nicholascole9673because he moves away from the scarlet rot
Weird you can code the AOE of a spell but not the AOE awareness of an AI 🤔
Yeah but at the same time malenia ai doesn’t allow her to get away from radahns 20 move relentless combos so it’s fair game I’d say she won 2-0 they both died first round 😂
0:41 no way you looked away at the best part bro.
Because radhan gravity
That wasnt the best part kid
@@TheHeroNoOneKnows ewww don't comment on my comment
We still got to see the Scarlet Gravity bloom. That was fantastic
@@TheHeroNoOneKnowsYes it was kid
This fight should happen at Radahn's Festival arena.
Not really, considering Malenia nuked Caelid in the swamps of Aeonia, not the dunes
@@anysn2268 this is true but in the cinematics seems otherwise
@@omnianima5395the swamp of aeonia could’ve not always been a swamp, maybe it used to be dunes until she bloomed and then the swamp formed, which is full of rot
@anysn2268 the swamp came from her, Caelid was probably all dunes after Jagged Peak was ripped away from it
Your strength, extraordinary.. the mark of a DLC..
Some things never change
not a fair fight tbh since radahn didn't go phase 2. his phase 2 will rip her apart. his phase 1 was the ez part of the boss fight.
@@jdennis867phase 2 is miquellas strength not his
@kingofthorn6165 yea buts that's still part of the boss fight.
@@jdennis867 THis is about Radahn vs Malania though, old rivalry
@@Drag0n092x this isn't a history fight. This is a boss vs boss fight to see whose the harder and tougher boss.
That first fight felt canon asf 😂😂
Nah if it was canon radhan would have died as soon as she pulled the scarlet aronia and malenia would have gone to take some milk.
@@NigrumTigriswell she did have to get carried back home by one of her knights after nuking caelid so it fits
@@NigrumTigrisMalenia fanboy detected. Opinion invalidated
@@ED11169 yeah i will give you that
@@spacefaringyoshi
Radhan fanboy wanna talk lore? Go on.
If we look at only the game info we have malenia sleeped to wait for miquella. She was not in a xalking state after the fight if we look at finlay is description but at the very least she still have her mind. Radhan was prob asleep when finlay came to take her because even rotten radhan can handle several cleanrot knight (shown in his cinematic).
1:07 "but there would be no victor" ahhh fight
First fight is lore accurate. He defeated Malenia first, but then lost to Rot
He would absolutely mauled her
Malenia won
Radahn had to retreat to his castle
Malenia was Injured by self inflicted actions
And carried back
@@ItachiUchiha_1724 No she didn't lmfao, she had to have her Cleanrot Knights save her ass because she was getting fucked up
Melania lost and was unconscious, radahn won but was taken by rot.
@@ItachiUchiha_1724it was a tie. Both fighters were out of commission by the end of the fight
0:42 this...
Yeaah boyyyy that's cool as F
This is exactly!!! 👏👏👏
Creation of caelid
Lore accurate af.
That was kinda meh
I noticed the last two fights she started spamming scarlet aeonia 🤣 seems to be her go to panic button
Very lore accurate of her
@@jerrymandarin8913LOL no. 😂 It's so obvious you hate her. Losser.
Some things never change
I've been saying this. Their fight wasn't a stalemate if she resorted to scarlet rot. Why infect a whole region if not? Radahn must've been close to winning.
@@Bl913her only goal is to kill radahn so miquella can snatch his soul.
So she did whatever means necessary.
And shes a goddess of rot after all thats a part of her anyways.
Radahn: LET ME SOLO HER
Radahn:OK SHE SOLO ME🙂
@@mohanedrhoma3947 Nah he would solo her easily if got the proper AI to react scarlet aeonia
@@mohanedrhoma3947 he wasnt in phase 2
If Malenia was scaled to fit the DLC health pool and damage, she bodies him let's be honest lmao
lmao Radahn seeing Malenia about to go nuclear and decide to PULL her fucking nuke in to continue the fight is such a Radahn thing to do.
and then falls because of the rot after beating tf outa her as well. that’s actually lore accurate.
Not to mention that Malenia's death dialogue fits perfectly with Radahn vanquishing her
Not accurate as he can’t beat Malenia, she went out from her own bloom
@@lukea9343 are you referring to the lore or the game play? because she doesn’t take damage from blooming in either instances…
@@chaosticbraindo in lore, she went unconscious from blooming.
@@lukea9343oh yeah ya right
disagree on he can’t beat her part though
he did have the better of her in abilities from the trailer
Holy shit, even with the scarlet rot, Radahn still kill her first, I have not seen that before.
because the dlc bosses are bloated damage wise and combo wise and harder to stagger. nothing against this radhan. its just power creep to make the game a challenge for us players who had 2 years to paly with the base game.
@@raiden3013 this makes no sense at all. The same logic applies to the progression through Elden Ring and the fact that we see Malenia at the end and Radahn at the beginning.
@@AndrewsTalksyou just explained exactly why my comment makes sense.
@@raiden3013 the fact that you think that says everything
He's right, the dlc bosses hit harder. If the uploader to this video had increased Malenia's strength equal to Radahn's, it would be curtains for Radahn. There are videos showing that exact scenario. Malenia is just damn good for him
Malenia needed two phases, half of Radahns moveset held back, one phase, bad AI, and rot to stand a chance.
Seeing this makes me wonder how powerful Malenia could have been if she was powered by miquella the way phase two Radahn is
Honestly Miquella and Malenia should have just teamed up and became the Twin God.
@@just_cade well as it's a George RR Martin thing, I don't see why it was a bad idea.
Well the original fight ended in a draw, ONLY because Malenia was losing, and had to pretty much nuke herself (and that entire portion of the map) and even then, she needed one of her knights take her to safety. It to mention Radhann was holding the stars back at the time, significantly taking away from his power.
Pretty sure Miaquella made the right choice.
@@Luca-bel while radahn is most likely the stronger demigod pre rot goddess transformation. there is nothing to suggest holding back the stars wasn actively making him weaker. this isn't anime
@@eganzacher5455 bruh, I don’t even watch anime. It’s just common sense. Imagine concentrating on two extremely difficult things at the same time, in this case, fighting off Melania, and holding back the falling star beasts (stars) at the same time.
It's similar to the actual story.
Radan, who is dying after Radan is cursed by corruption, is said to have been limited and was close to defeat in the war, shows him being pushed back by Malenia.
On the other hand, Radan in his heyday definitely drives Malenia, which is similar to the composition in the trailer, but if Malenia blooms a flower of decay close to a bomber, Radan in his heyday can also die.
Why are people asking for Radahn’s second phase with Miquella... That defeats the whole point of this fight which is to try to recreate prime Radahn vs prime Malenia when they fought in the lore. But if you ask me this is already biased in Radahn’s favour because he scales way higher than Malenia due to the new scadutree fragment system in the dlc
Your strength exraordinary. 1sec later spaming scarlet rot.
It was always his throne to take lol
He is just horse and puppet for Miquella...
In the DLC I tried to use the rot flower. Thinking it would be funny. Nope, he killed me in mid air.
If the AI knew better than to stand in the rot flower, consort radhan would have won. It's kind of impressive seeing him cut through her first phase like butter though.
dlc power creep is real
Melenia had 2nd phase but not foe radahn's miquella 2nd phase??
Thought the same thing lol
am i seriously seeing people get mad at the OP for being "biased towards malenia" when there's no second phase radahn despite the fact that 1. they tied first round 2. DLC bosses are ALWAYS stronger than maingame bosses 3. he didn't even scale her HP or stats to DLC level and 4. second phase radahn is two people? "scarlet rot is broken weahhh" this is crybaby shit, let's all have fun, laugh and enjoy the fake fights without devolving into fanboyism for either character over the outcome of a FAKE fight.
Ahem "fanboys"?
This. People don't want Melenia to use her advantages but want Radahn to use his is such fanboy behavior.
Where is Radahn's phase 2???
Radahn don't use second phase 2 outside his arena. it is possible to add second phase through event scripting but I am not aware of how to do that :(
@@shaan7030 take malenia there?
@@gdxnsk In that case, Malenia's phase 2 wouldn’t work there. It's a similar situation.
@@shaan7030 but with malenia cant you spawn her second phase independently? since radhan has a single healthbar I believe it wouldnt work but malenia has two
@@shaan7030 Honestly it's better that way, this should be a 1 vs 1 without Miquella riding on Radahn's back.
Its pretty Lore accurate honestly. Malenia will never beat Radahn in a 1v1 without using the outter gods power
If radahn wasnt honorable she never beats him regardless
Malenia is missing multiple limbs and still matches Radahn, who has literal space magic.
@@molybdenumrose Bro dont even try this 😂 Malenia is an Empyrean. Blessed by a whole ass Outer god. Sure she lacks anything else. But she still has the super human speed and power of an Empyrean.
Radahns magic is a technique. Everyone can learn it, its Radahns own energy that powers the Techniques. He himself stopped the stars, no one else who uses gravity can do that.
If I teach someone to box, but a bigger boxer 5x the size and speed also learns the same techniques. Who wins? Its pretty obvious
Plus Radahn is a tactical military genius who not only mastered space technique gravity, he took it to a NEW level of mastery to the same people who TAUGHT him. And also is a swordsman genius in his own right. And is also on par in sheer strength with Godfrey
Just stop
@@molybdenumrose Malenia without scarlett rot outer god abilities is still a beast. But shes no match for Radahn who isnt holding the stars in place. Thats why she even stood a chance in the first place.
Obviously no one could account for the scarlett rot powers from the outter god, because Radahn cant match a legit Outter god possesing Malenia.
@@molybdenumrose and the thing that makes her lose limbs makes her 100x stronger
You know that scalings are different from the main game.
Obviously, dlc hp and damage are calculated base of scadutree fragments and not levels.
So we just gonna ignore his second phase? Ok
Second phase is miquelle + radhan
Thanks!!!!!! I was searching this comment!
@@skywam2077and malenia second phase is an outer god + her.
@@mllrrp Nothing has changed with Radahn; they're just two now with Miquella on his shoulders. That's not the case with Malenia.
Why is he taking 1500 damage per tick of rot though? If you rot him it does like 1/10th of that.
Malenia's scarlet rot is completely bonkers. 3.3% of HP per second, literally ten times stronger than the best player version of scarlet rot, and it lasts for 5 full minutes.
Radhan would win in normal conditions. Scarlet Rot should not affect him like that, it only affects player this harshly. Scarlet rot on bosses hits for maybe 30 every second which is nothing on a boss with 40,000+ hp. Plus we never see radhan go into phase 2, which he does extremely quick in the fight (at 60-65% of his hp, not half), and in which he's totally unplayable, his hits are still devastating, he hits in AOE with miquella's holy rays.
In fair conditions, he would obliterate her, and the only reason player don't get absolutely melted by him is thanks to the scadutree blessing which gives us 100% more damage, and a whole lot of damage negation.
Ultimately I think Radhan is a harder boss. Remove malenia's waterfowl and she's almost too easy, whereas Radhan has several moves which are a motherfucker to avoid, plus he hits like a truck. In terms of Tankiness, I'd say they are equal.
This , the scarlet rod would never hit Radahn that much
Someones coping
@@tacomusical1404 I beat him anyway man idc I'm just saying what I think.
Malenia wasn’t scaled though so actually seems fair
Crazy how the fight already happened and he literally didn't do the shit you said he could.
If this was an open arena he probably would have won
Love how Radahn auto-wins Malenia, until Malenia decides to nuke with the rot lol, lore accurate fight.
The key to which is more difficult is not in rolling or dodging their attacks but actually by blocking. Or I should really say that both bosses require different evading methods to get by, which makes them both hard to judge.
Malenia is harder to block simply because you can't use a shield with her, she will heal off that and in her second phase, you really can't get anywhere with blocking, your best bet is dodging out of her way.
Radahn is harder to dodge because he's literally relentless, he's meant to be blocked, ideally with a Greatshield, also a thrusting weapon will be ideal too.
if you're going to do a dodge test, Malenia is meant to be easier to dodge because that's literally the ONLY way you're supposed to kill her.
So many radahn meat riders that don't realize that he has to be so tuned up because of the scadutree blessing system, it's a miracle malenia could even kill the first phase.
Not really, getting a heal on attack passive against a boss not trying to dodge is already a massive advantage.
Will you do it Elden Ring: Messmer The Impaler vs Malenia Blade Of Miquella | Boss vs Boss?
sure
@@shaan7030no need for that you’ll just make it so Malenia wins again
@@spice_59the most first world problem ever lol
Damn, Miquella's got Z+ security with him.
just like last time, Radahn was destroying her until she resorted to using the rot at each others expense
"The Battle of Aeonia: Malenia and Radahn locked in a stalemate, then the Scarlet Rot blooms."
Locked in stalemate doesn't sound like either side was destroying each other to me. I'd like to remind you that Radahn had an easy chance to get Malenia off of him before she used the Aeonia, but he was so exhausted from fighting her BEFORE the rot he was on his knees while she drove her blade into his neck for free. It's almost like they actually did equally match one another in skill. Learn to separate your headcanons from canon.
@@Filigree50x in micents questline she tells us that Malenia had to resort to the rot to match radahn. The battle was close but he was early on top. How about learning the lore before acting like you know shit?
Nope, Radhan was using only his first phase, actually he won.
Exactly
radahn's second phase is two people lol
@@Dionysus2456 Malenia 2nd phase is her and the goddess of rot from the outer gods. Duh.
@@davidsandoval4290that guy is her waifu boss thats why he defend malenia but that guy doesnt know canonically radahn can kill malenia easier like such a crybaby beacuse radahn is becoming the strongest and hardest boss on game
@@Dionysus2456 and we got another malenia waifu
Haha for phase 2 Radahn spawn the base game Version of him since he always dies of scarlet rot, it would be lore accurate and everything
So we're done now right? Malenia is no longer the hardest? Or do we not count dlc bosses? Somebody tell me Malenia is completely irrelevant now. Please.
She is still powerful, but Consort Radahn surpasses her in strength when considering the DLC
She is no where near as hard as radahn
dlc has like 4 bosses which are harder than her radhan, bayle, messmer and rellana
@@aganbraganca4156 Rellena isn't even more difficult than Godfrey stop.
These two are forking monsters
Lore accurate...Malenia is helpless against Radahn without the Scarlet Rot
Even in their original fight after she unleashed the Scarlet Rot on Radahn she was helpless and would surely have been killed by Radahn (even though he went mad)...and was only alive because one of her associates rescued her for the scene
I always love radahn videos coz theres always a bunch of nerds malding how he beats malenia even tho the creator of the game calls it a draw, makes radahn losing even funnier
I I have the DLC. Consort Radahn is overturned, yes, but i will always root against malenia for all the times ive died to waterfowl dance
Simp
So only one of the bosses gets to use stage 2?
I mean, Radahn stage 2 is sided with Miquella, so it would be weird, and I guess this fight is more to see about their own power, not influenced by others
@@jao5739 and Malenia's stage 2 is super juiced up god-strength being borrowed from another entity as well. I feel it's only fair for Radahn to get his stage 2 as well.
Watching waterfowl dance barely put a dent in Radahn is kind of amusing.
It still confuses me that this radahn can still be afflicted by scarlet rot this seems like oversight on miquella's part did he forget to make radahn immune or at least resistant to his weakness if he was going to reanimate him and give him a new body it would have been smart to increase his resistance to the thing he is weak to
What make you think that miquella can just make someone more resistant/immune to scarlet rot?
@zenildoneto7710 the whole point of his goal was to become a God plus he was trying to recreate radahn using mogh body wouldn't it make sense if your trying to create a All mighty warrior to be his consort/husband and knew that the body's involved have big exploitable weaknesses wouldn't it be smarter to find a way to give the warrior a resistance considering there are ways of making the tarnished more resistant and that he is so attuned with holy and incantations surely he would find a way to stop it or cure it instantly because I don't flame cleanse me is the only spell a God would know to cure it
I apologize in advance if I missed Punctuations or misspelled anything I have dyslexia as well as English isn't my first language
@@zenildoneto7710he did a lot for his sister in that regard and hers is incurable
how is rot doing so much dmg per second???
rot does % of max hp
Can you do old Rahdhan vs Prime Rahdhan?
I have done it already. you can find it on my channel
The way Radhan raises his sword after she dies and then lets himself die is absolutely perfect of Radhan he wa no coward he truly is the Goat
Did you scale Malenia to DLC levels?
No
Radahn Not Being afraid of the Rot is pretty spot on for lore purposes lol
Malenia: "So you're my brother's promised consort?"
Radahn: "Say again?"
Malenia: "you heard me, now pick up your sword - I'll teach you how to swordfight"
What’s the difference between rounds?
Horrifyingly, if this fight took place in the shadow lands, it would be miquella riding on malenia's back. 1 phase vs 3.
Radahn really needs the cook book for preserving boluses
This is proof enough right here that Radahn easily would win if that coward Malenia wouldn't have used the scarlet rot to ruin the continent. That act of selfishness is the only reason there was a standstill at all. All hail Radahn, mightiest of the demigods!
Malenia always wins because she is the goddess of rot anx radhan aint shit
I wonder why they made her like this in the game but the lore says otherwise?
Now we finally get to see what if Radahn had his rematch with malenia
Hear my words... My name es General Radahn and my horse is my best friend.
At least it is lore acurate
Scarlot rot is an absolutely broken ability.
This is dope I love that they both kill each other just fuckin cool
THIS is why malenia had to cheat to beat him lol.
cheating...by using her powers in a duel to the death? there is no guidebook on rules they were supposed to be following, she didn't "cheat" by using magic exactly one time after fighting for days to a stalemate without using her rot whatsoever. like you know in the cinematic she brought radahn to his knees and he was so tired and exhausted from fighting her for days without her rot she stabbed him completely for free right? it's almost like they both beat the snot out of each other because they're both insanely strong warriors.
The fact that they died in a tie twice, means that the devs balanced these two out perfectly for lore accuracy. They gave Radahn just the right amount of health, and Malenia, just the right amount of Scarlett Rot damage.
Radahn didn't use the movie where he flies up and sends slashes, why?
He didn’t use his second phase either this video is rigged for Malenia to win because the creator most likely prefers her
@@spice_59 Damn, Radahn meat riders are cringe LMAO the channel's owner literally said it's almost impossible to make his second phase activate outside of his own arena, blame From, not them lol
This match was not much fair as you nerfed Radahn in at least 2 ways: he doesn't have second phase transition with Miquella saving him from SUCCESSIVE attacks, and the fact he doesn't go second phase but still does the meteorite attack is just a way to weaken him the most.
Phase 2 is always broken outside enir hilm
So where's phase 2 Radahn? U can't use phase Malenia which isn't even Malenia herself and say she beat him.
Why Malenia has 2 phase but not Radahn here?
Cuz she would get charmed and basically oneshoted by Radhan Consort of Miquella
Cause this is 1vs1 fight. And Malenia are stronger in herself
Malenia is literally a vessel for the goddess of rot lol it's not 1v1
To be fair, there should be a fight with Malenia/rot goddess and Radahn/Miquella
@@cucumbers366
I mean look at the health difference. Just because she has 2 health bars, Radahn has way more total HP
@@tyler547 You are right
He was holding back stars aka METEORITES NOT ACTUAL STARS(while still having access to his magic)
She was holding back a Rot God. With most of her body decayed.
She stood up, adjusted her prosthesis arm, dodged his attack, severed his legs, and nuked him. Stop being bias. He lost. Period.
this is so wrong I don't even know where to begin...
@Nova11435 So she didn't reattach her prosthesis? She didn't dash at him and dodged an attack? She didn't deliberately lose her arm and catch the sword with her other hand? Severing his legs is debatable, I guess he's LEGLESS because he severed his own legs, right? Right.
Anyway. She didn't mount him somehow even though he's some high and mighty diety? She didn't stab herself and him to unleash the Rot? He didn't lose his mind? She didn't fall unconscious?
Get the fuck over it.
@@IIYamiSanII ok then. lets unpack this can of worms. One, It is literally stated in game that he is holding back the stars, and the Astels are malformed stars which invalidates your first point. Second, she wasn't holding back the rot. that was Miquellas unalloyed gold needle restraining it. she had almost nothing to do with it until she broke the needle which unleashed the rot, invalidating your second point, third, her body being decayed doesn't mean much given that her replacement prosthetics operate better than regular limbs given that they have the same mobility and dexterity, with the added bonus of not getting tired, effectively nullifying your third point. got any more?
Oh yeah. almost forgot. he is missing his legs because LONG after the battle, due to the scarlet rot infecting him, his body began to rot away and it took his legs, much the same as it did to malenia. you can see this if you actually look closely at his legs. they weren't cut off. they rotted away.
@Nova11435 He was holding back meteors and meteorites. If not for the Unalloyed Golden Needle, she'd already have died and bloomed, more than likely. The Prosthesis was clearly knocked off multiple times, and a Demi-God is unlikely to feel fatigue unless there are grievous injuries present, which, were not.
They're both holding back. It's made evident and that's what the lore states. Regardless of what you feel.
It's how she was born, she didn't have to hold the Rot back and Radahn wouldn't even be in the conversation.
She's an Emperean as well. Who are already a step above anyone else.
We don't see exactly when he lost his legs. Her severing them makes more sense than anything else, considering he still has his arms in totality after being Rotted for such a long period of time. That point is clearly debatable, and we know the lore is up for interpretation most of the time. His legs are CLEARLY, cleanly severed. Which means they were cut off.
When she mounted him against his will? He didn't move an inch. Why not? Why was she just able to mount him, whisper into his ear, and destroy him? Because he was unable to move. Obviously.
@@IIYamiSanII ah yes. the classic counterpoint of "Nuh uh". and if you don't believe me personally, feel free to spend 30 seconds and realize that the entire community agrees that Radahn's legs were rotted away. and it isn't clean at all lol. there are two theories. 1. after getting rotted, his legs were slowly ground away due to abrasion with the sand as he dragged his legs across the crimson sands. 2. his legs were rotted away because of the disease. and even if he was able to move, her getting on his back, whispering, and bombing took less than ten seconds. he didn't grab her and throw her like a rag doll because plot. there is literally no possible way to restrain a man of that size reasonably.
the rot should not affected when he jump or he can win without this meteor jump, he jump make the rot kill him
The bloom always gets them, but lore accurate wise Malenia would be squashed like a bug.
Elden Ring: But Radahn invaded Miquella's Haligtree
Radahn: "I have come for my consort."
Malenia: "Oh no."
Bro radahn not even entering his second phase hows that fair
Deep inside ourselves, we’re all cheering Radahn
Where is the second face of Radahn with Miquella and his holy attacks? It's an unfair battle.
What were the stats used? Ie New Game+ what?
No NG+
@@shaan7030 Did you account for Scadutree blessing level?
@@BlunkfistI mean if Radahn can still slap us around at 20 blessings you'd think he'd take way more out of Malenia
I feel the difficulty of the dlc isnt due to a bosses move set but due to how hard they hit you. kind of artificially increasing the difficulty
I mean yes, but their moveset is "easier" than Malenia's so I guess it's tied up a bit, and I choose to believe that they really wanted to do a HARD dlc, but anyways I liked it
why not include phase 2 when Radahn's health is at 2/3?
Because he's tag teaming with a god on his back in his second form, obviously.
@@Colin-kh6kp he gave malenia phase 2 so radhan deserve phase 2 too this is so unfair
first fight was so canon
of course not, radahn wins
Lore accurate.
First round is. The rest not so much.
in lore they both lost
@@aganbraganca4156 Kinda? Malenia's goal was to kill Radahn, and she failed in that and had to be spirited away back to the Haligtree. We don't know what Radahn's goal was, but I assume it was NOT getting killed; at best we can say that it was a pyrrhic victory for Radahn.
@@stephenjenkins7971 lmfao no it wasn't. Radahn failed to kill her as well. Malenia got put in a coma and Radahn became a rot zombie. they both tied and there were no victors. it's baffling to me how you people come up with any excuse to try and disprove what is told to you in canon.
@@Dionysus2456 Malenia's war goal was to kill Radahn. It was not Radahn's war goal to kill Malenia. You may as well argue that the Vietnam War was a tie because Vietnam could not defeat the US in its homeland. Whoever invades and fails their objective is defeated.
Radahn has 2nd phase too, it seems unfair that only Malenia has the chance to do it.
Radahn would easily win in 2nd face, he has long reach attacks to avoid the rot.
Pre or post nerf?
Lore accurate, radahn prime > malenia prime
Eh
Malenia gets both phases but Radahn only gets his first phase?
You should have equalized healthbar of radahn to the combination of the two phases ... /Double to make it fair givdn he has only ons phase here
Im pretty sure Radahn due to the Scadu tree blessing scaling stuff has a shit ton more hp than Malenia with both phases and and more damage than a normal Elden Ring boss
That's radahn but hasn't phase 2 yet, imagine if he's on phase 2, like no match
wait, doesn't he have a second phase?
According to DLC malenia is losing to radahn on purpose that she carry the whisper of miquella for radahn. So if fight is fair 1 v 1 malenia clear winner
Only issue I have is she had 2 phases but radahn only got one
0:41 looks away from the coolest part of the fight
Sorry my ass he just kicked 108 times with radahn
Malenia only 38
Soooo...
Why he didnt got to 2nd phase?
It ended the same😭
Malenia's Rot is an auto-win in 99% of boss battles. The only ones that can actually defeat her without getting Rot would be Maliketh who keeps his distance by default.
Radan appears to take the same percentage of damage as when the player takes scarlet rot.
very inaccurate
Finally. Peak Radahn.
You should of done it on ng 7.... Rahdan has around 90,000 hp lol . Not a good idea to put sound effect with a subscribe button during videos either btw...it's a turn off to most viewers...
"Radahn Lost" they said, "Malenia is undefeated" they said, "Malenia is the Strongest" they said
now give radahn his second phase. its not even close.
second wave rahdahn slams