Toxic work complaint are remapant in American culutre. According to Scott Sleek reporter for American Pyscological association, 2024 work in America survey, 15% of respondents labeled their workplace as somewhat or very toxic.
When you enter the workplace you see all these rights you have and how you're to be treated. If you say anything is wrong, your on the chopping block. Everything you do/don't do comes into question. Everything is a popularity contest their not looking for people to do their job well. They want people who pretend all is well
Nah she is contradicting herself with her Berhalter analysis and how Jill Ellis treated her and the team. If i'm correct didn't she say the USMNT need a coach to make them uncomfortable in order to reach their potential???? Jill Ellis did the same and won 2 World Cups and now they want to complain?????
I think she just wanted to keep it surface level and not dive deep into the issues she went through. Plus those statements were initiated by Seb, she just followed up on his question.
The second this came out re Ellis I tht “just like the WNT” - there was always some discontent w her but staff and players kept their mouths shut. Glad Syd is putting info out there!
I wouldn't coach or lead a group of women into a gold mine or into a war zone. You can't treat them equally because if you do you could lose your credibility or freedom. F no.
NWSL has revealed its issues. Doesn't mean other leagues don't have them and more. I think the investigator describes the issues as systemic. Getting rid of problems/issues is a day to day job. Keep exposing. We have laws of how people are to be treated in the workplace.
There are cultural and individual differences that affect behavior and perceptions of behavior. Obviously, an effective boss tries to understand their employees and how to best motivate and manage them. Some people respond to "tough love" or even abusive treatment, but generally that kind of management does not work very well, especially among women. We will see whether these complaints reflect a negative work place created by poor people managers.
Pro athletes and staff generally know the difference between "tough and demanding" and "abusive" (allegedly). Because of the nature of the job and power coaches have, there's generally an acceptance they can cross certain boundaries that your boss at your normal job can't. John Tortorella (the Philadelphia Flyers head coach) is seen as tough (and he's even burned bridges with former players) but no one has said he's "abusive," Mike Babcock (the one month long coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets) has been called a brilliant coach but "a horrible human being." And particularly when it comes to women's sports, there's a lot of toxicity that just doesn't get exposed because those sports just aren't under the spotlight.
What is going on at this place? First Casey Stoney and now Jill Ellis?! I mean if they were inappropriate then yes it needs to be addressed but something seems weird about this because these two coaches have been praised by multiple very successful teams.
This is straight up speculation and a pretty embarrassing segment for anyone that considers themselves a journalist. This all feels very “high-school” at the moment. Krieger was a fantastic player, but she was 34 going on 35 in the lead up to the 2019 WC and played only 12 games for the Orlando Pride that year. I think she knew exactly why she was not a “key” player in the build up to that tournament. I have no love lost for Ellis, but let’s pump the brakes one minute before we start bringing out the pitch forks and basing our opinions on this situation and Ellis because some ex-staffers posted something on X and a couple of ex-players have an axe to grind because they didn’t like how they were treated when other players were picked over them. Let this situation develop, inform us of the allegations and the evidence to support these allegations and then let us decide what’s what.
immediately the assumption is guilt . many of the former national team players espouse woke culture and its either their way of thinking or you get cancelled. They were coddled and had the assumption of privilege . Life is tough and high end sports are super competitive. Jill won two world cups with these players-- she says it all, we won only because of "us" . Rapinoe and a bunch of them - good riddance. Stop crying. BTW WHAT DID JILL ELLIS DO ?
Pro athletes and staff generally know the difference between "tough and demanding" and "abusive" (allegedly). Because of the nature of the job and power coaches have, there's generally an acceptance they can cross certain boundaries that your boss at your normal job can't. John Tortorella (the Philadelphia Flyers head coach) is seen as tough (and he's even burned bridges with former players) but no one has said he's "abusive," Mike Babcock (the one month long coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets) has been called a brilliant coach but "a horrible human being." And particularly when it comes to women's sports, there's a lot of toxicity that just doesn't get exposed because those sports just aren't under the spotlight.
Pro athletes and staff generally know the difference between "tough and demanding" and "abusive" (allegedly). Because of the nature of the job and power coaches have, there's generally an acceptance they can cross certain boundaries that your boss at your normal job can't. John Tortorella (the Philadelphia Flyers head coach) is seen as tough (and he's even burned bridges with former players) but no one has said he's "abusive," Mike Babcock (the one month long coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets) has been called a brilliant coach but "a horrible human being." And particularly when it comes to women's sports, there's a lot of toxicity that just doesn't get exposed because those sports just aren't under the spotlight.
Gosh I really hope I say this right. I think Ellis was tough, and not kind enough. Abusive? Hard to accept. She went around doing podcasts with uswnt players! A lot of players embrace her on the sidelines BUT we have to get this right
Am I the only person here screaming who, what, where, when, and how throughout this? I like how I'm supposed to believe vague, anonymous accusations just because just because ESPN reported them. Seb, "There is a lot to unpack here." There is less than nothing to unpack. You didn't report anything! You repeated an allegation, refused to give details, and breathlessly clutched pearls over the thing you didn't report.
Anyone can go on an X rant because they are angry. If you suck at your job, you might get fired! Perhaps why San Diego shut this down is because everyone is in agreement that the problem was with the accuser. Let’s go with Kasey’s advice on this and see if anyone else says anything or if we actually get some facts. It is a dangerous game to accuse someone without providing facts. That is a special kind of evil. Really poor job by this panel for jumping the gun(with the exception of Kasey)
I'm not clear on what the accusations are. Seb is right; the team's statement is horrible.
I hadn’t seen the club’s statement before this. Big time yikes.
Didn’t Jill NOT REPORT any of the allegations she was aware of to US Soccer when the NWSL Abuse scandals were revealed?
This is a very excellent point of it's true. I hadn't heard about that before.
About time to clean house @ US Soccer
Toxic work complaint are remapant in American culutre. According to Scott Sleek reporter for American Pyscological association, 2024 work in America survey, 15% of respondents labeled their workplace as somewhat or very toxic.
When you enter the workplace you see all these rights you have and how you're to be treated. If you say anything is wrong, your on the chopping block. Everything you do/don't do comes into question. Everything is a popularity contest their not looking for people to do their job well. They want people who pretend all is well
That's actually lower than I expected.
The key words in Alex Morgans statement is "multiple employees"
Nah she is contradicting herself with her Berhalter analysis and how Jill Ellis treated her and the team. If i'm correct didn't she say the USMNT need a coach to make them uncomfortable in order to reach their potential???? Jill Ellis did the same and won 2 World Cups and now they want to complain?????
Being left off a roster and calling it trauma is disrespectful to real trauma.
Correct
@@centenoj85fa real.... its truly disrespectful to ppl with real trauma
I think she just wanted to keep it surface level and not dive deep into the issues she went through. Plus those statements were initiated by Seb, she just followed up on his question.
Yes
She never should have been removed from the team.
if she was male what would of happened.......automatic suspension
SHE IS
This brought back my trauma of being told i wasnt good enough to play Varsity football. He just didnt value me
Ali Krieger, will you go out with me??? ***swoon***
The second this came out re Ellis I tht “just like the WNT” - there was always some discontent w her but staff and players kept their mouths shut. Glad Syd is putting info out there!
yes if possible more info is needed. I agree innocent until proven guilty.
I wouldn't coach or lead a group of women into a gold mine or into a war zone. You can't treat them equally because if you do you could lose your credibility or freedom. F no.
NWSL has revealed its issues. Doesn't mean other leagues don't have them and more. I think the investigator describes the issues as systemic. Getting rid of problems/issues is a day to day job. Keep exposing. We have laws of how people are to be treated in the workplace.
There are cultural and individual differences that affect behavior and perceptions of behavior. Obviously, an effective boss tries to understand their employees and how to best motivate and manage them. Some people respond to "tough love" or even abusive treatment, but generally that kind of management does not work very well, especially among women. We will see whether these complaints reflect a negative work place created by poor people managers.
I will listen to Ali more than these men who are pretending that they know anything about the NWSL. Come on.
She has done this before, time for another private investigation....
Hearing this sort of thing makes me glad that Jill Ellis didn't end up coaching USWNT again.
USMNT and USWNT is soo freakin soft AF!!!!
This is too vague. We need more info. It seems Jill's a no-nonsense coach and players like Ali may have a grudge.
If Jill were male she would have been suspended already
@@theCranesUS for what exactly?
@@pglanville what didn’t matter for the male coaches that were suspended pending investigations.
Pro athletes and staff generally know the difference between "tough and demanding" and "abusive" (allegedly). Because of the nature of the job and power coaches have, there's generally an acceptance they can cross certain boundaries that your boss at your normal job can't. John Tortorella (the Philadelphia Flyers head coach) is seen as tough (and he's even burned bridges with former players) but no one has said he's "abusive," Mike Babcock (the one month long coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets) has been called a brilliant coach but "a horrible human being." And particularly when it comes to women's sports, there's a lot of toxicity that just doesn't get exposed because those sports just aren't under the spotlight.
@@kiroolioneaver8532stop spamming this answer
What is going on at this place? First Casey Stoney and now Jill Ellis?!
I mean if they were inappropriate then yes it needs to be addressed but something seems weird about this because these two coaches have been praised by multiple very successful teams.
Ali, i heard you.
What this soft generation of whiners considers "abuse" is not abuse.
People like Jill Ellis never be on the position's,they would only be interested in their own interest.
Scandal
The US is made fun if by real football nation the least the federation can do is have some dignity and self respect and try to do things right
This is straight up speculation and a pretty embarrassing segment for anyone that considers themselves a journalist. This all feels very “high-school” at the moment.
Krieger was a fantastic player, but she was 34 going on 35 in the lead up to the 2019 WC and played only 12 games for the Orlando Pride that year. I think she knew exactly why she was not a “key” player in the build up to that tournament.
I have no love lost for Ellis, but let’s pump the brakes one minute before we start bringing out the pitch forks and basing our opinions on this situation and Ellis because some ex-staffers posted something on X and a couple of ex-players have an axe to grind because they didn’t like how they were treated when other players were picked over them.
Let this situation develop, inform us of the allegations and the evidence to support these allegations and then let us decide what’s what.
immediately the assumption is guilt . many of the former national team players espouse woke culture and its either their way of thinking or you get cancelled. They were coddled and had the assumption of privilege . Life is tough and high end sports are super competitive. Jill won two world cups with these players-- she says it all, we won only because of "us" . Rapinoe and a bunch of them - good riddance. Stop crying. BTW WHAT DID JILL ELLIS DO ?
C’mon, this shit goes on in literally every corporation in the U.S…
Soft.....Innocent until proven guilty - so lets just say she is 'abusive' w/out providing any context or specifics. Why even report this nonsense ?
Pro athletes and staff generally know the difference between "tough and demanding" and "abusive" (allegedly). Because of the nature of the job and power coaches have, there's generally an acceptance they can cross certain boundaries that your boss at your normal job can't. John Tortorella (the Philadelphia Flyers head coach) is seen as tough (and he's even burned bridges with former players) but no one has said he's "abusive," Mike Babcock (the one month long coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets) has been called a brilliant coach but "a horrible human being." And particularly when it comes to women's sports, there's a lot of toxicity that just doesn't get exposed because those sports just aren't under the spotlight.
Sounds more like soft gen z cant handle a boomer whos a hard ass.
Sounds more like a simple minded moron who can’t take accountability for their actions.
Neither Ellis nor Alvarado are either.
Pro athletes and staff generally know the difference between "tough and demanding" and "abusive" (allegedly). Because of the nature of the job and power coaches have, there's generally an acceptance they can cross certain boundaries that your boss at your normal job can't. John Tortorella (the Philadelphia Flyers head coach) is seen as tough (and he's even burned bridges with former players) but no one has said he's "abusive," Mike Babcock (the one month long coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets) has been called a brilliant coach but "a horrible human being." And particularly when it comes to women's sports, there's a lot of toxicity that just doesn't get exposed because those sports just aren't under the spotlight.
Yeah the Julie Ernst is lying - she sitting across from you
Gosh I really hope I say this right. I think Ellis was tough, and not kind enough.
Abusive? Hard to accept.
She went around doing podcasts with uswnt players!
A lot of players embrace her on the sidelines BUT we have to get this right
Am I the only person here screaming who, what, where, when, and how throughout this? I like how I'm supposed to believe vague, anonymous accusations just because just because ESPN reported them. Seb, "There is a lot to unpack here." There is less than nothing to unpack. You didn't report anything! You repeated an allegation, refused to give details, and breathlessly clutched pearls over the thing you didn't report.
Duh
hello
Anyone can go on an X rant because they are angry. If you suck at your job, you might get fired! Perhaps why San Diego shut this down is because everyone is in agreement that the problem was with the accuser. Let’s go with Kasey’s advice on this and see if anyone else says anything or if we actually get some facts. It is a dangerous game to accuse someone without providing facts. That is a special kind of evil. Really poor job by this panel for jumping the gun(with the exception of Kasey)
If she was a male she would have been suspended already!
Sounds like that time of the month
Team sucks and is crying about things being too tough?
This is coming from non players dude. Abuse in the staff
Context is relevant. Alvarado is video and creative mgr for uswnt so there is no physical abuse going on. So is it "abuse"?
Listen to the white males to tell us how to think
Seb and Herc aren't white males
Women crying about nothing. More @ 11
Generation Snowflake can't take the heat!
Cringe
Jill is working Joe too hard.
Jill is working lesbian Jessica too hard you mean... 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
can they shut up and play soccer please.