Undercover Drug dealer - Cop Neil Woods tells his story
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- James English, The Anything Goes Show Ep65.
Former undercover cop Neil woods tells all about his life as an undercover cop and his views on drug laws in the UK.
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A Scotsman named English doing a wonderful job. You don't just ask the interesting questions, you actually listen too.
Subscribed.
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Great interview. A lot of the kids he speaks of have been under Gvt care. I wish Neil well but his guilt is making him over simplify the solution. In the US deaths via legal drugs has actually taken over, ie opiods etc including hospital deaths. Its because the attitude to drug use hasn't changed. You need strong families and good schools to raise kids with strong moral values...
@@mrsmackenzie7850 i diagree w him that drug use is a normal human activity.
@@scotsman6712 It Is Perfectly 'Normal' for 'Many more people, than one might Think, They Seem to ''Know' or 'Recognise' each other' just like People Who Have 'Cups of 'Tea' but ''Without'' Drugs'.
They Don't 'Shout out Like ''Market Traders' because they are Doing something that they could be ''Punished for''. Yea?
alcohol numbed my pain after losing my wife in 2010 and i nearly died drinking my depression and mental issues away...but, somehow through shame and loathing i completely stopped and have never drank since...i took a serious look at myself and reformed...this is now 8 years sober!
Sorry for your loss Darren. That is amazing about turning your life around in being able to find that strength. What a share, you must be so proud of yourself for being able to make that huge change. All the best!
@@wazabi09 thanks Colin..wasn't easy but i'm only moving forward now fast or slow because i am not going back to those dark days and drunken nightmares ever again!
Fire!! God bless you
Sorry for your loss, you wife would have been so proud of you for getting sober! I know I am proud of you and I don't even know you!
Thanks for that, im a week into that realization.
Lmao the start “ this is probably first time I’ve ever sat in front of a copper and it’s me asking the questions “ had me rollin 😂
Aye and a wee laugh to yourself at that point too james lol brilliant show
ROTUND PEOPLE WILL ROLL
The most intelligent and articulate cop I’ve ever heard, seen the issues at the coal face of deprived society and offers real solutions if only a government had the balls to make real drug reforms. Great interview James
Thanks Ritchie
He talks rubbish 90% of time
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UA-cam turned of my notification.
None of this can be true. 😂
There’s something I really like about this man. He is clearly intelligent, he’s no fool, but so down to earth and human. I want to have a pint with him.
It's not a war on drugs. It's a war on people.
As stupid as a "war on terror"
How does killing civilians with drones stop those peoples family hating us even more and inciting many more suicide bombers and jihadis.
What idiots have we allowed to be in charge!?
You are SO right. So well put! It's the people who are having a war waged against them, coming at us from every angle, feels like.
It's a war on money. It's a war on social class and it's a war on consciousness.
@@seanfegan8161 agreed Sean!
the loonies are running the country and have turned into an asylum, just as they want it..
They really are the least among us.
Ive never heard anyone speak this well and this logical about drugs. Such a wise dude
These interviews are so much better , than the scripted TV crap , I never watch TV anymore it so transparent .
Thanks Alison
Agreed Alison, cancelled my tv license ages ago. I can’t believe the drivel people are gawping at on their TVs when I visit other people’s houses.
im the same. rarely watch tv. never the news unless its local news otherwise its every available platform except regular tv channels.
I've never had a TV licence and never will fuk them there gettin rice
@@littlecente1133 lol so true!
Just discovered James English in the last few days and currently going through all the content on his channel. Really outstanding work. Interesting interviews and discussions. Love the interaction he has with his guests and the fact he clearly listens to what they are saying to him. James always remembers that his show is about the guest and not just a platform for him to talk.
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Check out aJohnie boy Steele and his brothers story. They fought the law and they won
I am not convinced he is the real deal or hes just talking shite???
Great interview. Great line of questioning. Asked every question that people wanted answered in the right way. Honest answers. Respect
Great interview I swear I seen Neil’s interview done by Geordie but in this one you can actually hear Neil finish a sentence without getting interrupted
Yeah that Geordie and his sidekick, shout over the guest after each question, mostly with irrelevant unfunny patter. Tried to watch but it's too painful.
I like when u asked if he was allowed to have sex with people and "go deep"🤣
Yeah! It's 1 rude, and 2 annoying, halfway through an interesting answer, one of them but in, to say how his dad would smoke crack at the dinner table, never mind that we the viewer actually want to hear the story intact ...!!!!. Clueless! !!
This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen on UA-cam. I was riveted. Neil is a national treasure and James proves to be a FANTASTIC interviewer: insightful, patient, honest, prompting Neil with amazing intelligent questions... I am truly hooked. Keep 'em coming!!!!
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To do what this guy did and had to go through, then to return home to his family is just insane. To keep these lives separate for so long must have taken its toll and no wonder he has PTSD. Absolutely captivated listening to this guy, scary yet mind blowing
Ye but he wasnt being a cop doing the usual job... his job was to just hang around the streets buying gear that's not hard isit
@@upupnaway5926 his strength had to be mental he wasn’t an average officer. Im almost sure he got agent training at the intelligence services because random civilians aren’t builded to live in 24/7 risk. These cops are carefully chosen for their psychological and mental abilities and tested harshly before they are released for any operation. Another reason he appears to be intelligent way more than a common officer.
Watched a few of these, have to say probably one of the best podcasts I've seen. Informative, no bullshit, it is as it is. Top work.
Neil you’re a very balanced man, very interesting interview.
A spot on interview where you get to hear from a Professional in his field, Gangsters and Drugs, your mates and the Police. Most people are oblivious to the world and how rapidly it's corrupting everything.
It can only get worse, it's all down to who's got the biggest or the most guns on the day.
Well done to Neil for making it through to tell us the facts.
this guy is quality glad you had him on james hope he brought plenty stories seen him on true geordie. top podcast.
What a good compassionate sensible man he is . He should be advising governments in LEAPs and Bounds
Absolutely. I completely agree.
Leap UK his org
The government hate ex-cops like him, he ruins their propaganda and policies
I'm getting addicted to ur podcasts James ! Brilliant all ive seen . Thankyou .
Neil...Never have I listened to someone who has made such sense on drug prohibition...you are so intelligent and honest and have worked out the answers...
Decriminalise not legalise just look at the Portuguese model, instead of rocketing drug abuse it plummeted, educating the kids, taking dealers off the streets, reducing crime with less stress on healthcare etc. It seems to be having more success than any other model tried throughout the world....the war on drugs was never going to be won, you can win a battle but still lose a war
No legalize everything everywhere in the world or else there is not any point
@cuppateadee nah, all those ppl could go work dispensing and manufacturing and taxing legal substances. Lol
He explained the issues with decriminalisation over legalization ironically referencing ur preferred model...
So we need more drug dealers and black markets??... No.
Legalisation is the way and the money goes to good causes ie NHS, housing jobs and a better community for all, not a range rover for one.
I was nearly in tears watching this. My friends are dead because of our antiquated laws. "Fucking junkies." Yes, my friend Paul who was raped and battered as a child was indeed a "junkie." Over 60% of addicts were abused as children.
A black market creates criminality and adulterated substance. Will we ever stop this????
Look at what it's done to this man. The body language shows this man is haunted. Neil, as an addict, thank you. I don't blame you and your bravery really touches me. Keep it going.
I pray that you have beat your addiction and have got hope in your life Stay strong and don’t lose hope ❤
If you don't listen to this guy regarding what really causes the drug problem you won't listen to anybody.
@@meichong8278 as an ex drug dealer the whole reason you deal drugs is for money and guess what middle class twat is likely to have more money than a working class shoplifter.
Prohibition doesn't work, alcohol prohibition in 1920'-30's America fuelled the growth of organised crime, all governments keep it illegal because they eventually benefit financially from the profits. It being the second biggest trade after Arms in the world, drugs are taboo. You could say half the pull is the feeling of being a rebel against the system. take the mistique away and half the problem is solved, yes people or dealers could find new streams of synthetic or opioid drugs, however the main culprits for the misery the world seems to be held prisoner by heroin, cocaine, opium will be viewed as normal as ciggerettes.. The real killer
David Scott you’re full of shit 😂 if this guy came on an estate where I m from with that accent he’d be robbed on the spot he’d be sound buying in city centres and you’re no ex drug dealer or you wouldn’t be staying it on the internet you clown
David Scott I’m from Halton moor in Leeds where you from
@@dewhatwhat3033 Coventry
What an absolute HERO of a man. I cannot possibly understand how anyone does this line of work...
Simply one of the best Interviews, Great Q&A Vid, Easily Up There, One Of The Best Vids Ive seen EVER on UA-cam!!!!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!! LOVE IT!!!
Congratulations on producing an excellent interview. You allowed Neil Woods to get his points across without constant interruptions and when you did ask questions they were relevant and drew out very interesting and informative responses. You can tell that Neil's experiences have left their mark but despite that he comes across as an extremely intelligent and articulate individual who presents a case for the legalisation of drugs that is hard to argue against.
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"I've been diagnosed with PTSD..."
Interviewer, without missing a beat: "So what's the worst thing you've seen under cover?"
Merciless!
Actually a relevant reciprocal question,as in seeing something really bad would induce ptsd
Can't face your problems by never acknowledgin or confrontin em, and in the context of their conversation it was gonna come up whether it was asked outright or not
Followed by "have you ever thought of ending it?"
You also didn't miss a beat, a shame some in the reply to this are slow on the uptake. We demand the nitty gritty while simultaneously validating claims. Otherwise, accept another persons stories without proof and continue to add friend requests from enemies. KMT
@@kyfawkes - Finishing with...."But you knew what you were getting into"
Watched one or two of your interviews James.
This was ground breaking. Absolutely spot on.
Absolutely brilliant interview. Read his book a couple of years ago while on holiday. Fascinating
"My house had never been so tidy"
Too true
Classic
This is the best interview and answers to a massive question/problem I’ve ever watched. Amazing!
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Brilliant James and I hope Neil is okay. Blew my mind and it’s just common sense to the problem. 🐝kind people 😊
James you were bang on with saying there’s different things you can do like meditate, breathing exercising etc such a good point I have two kids and worried to death about them getting older with what’s on the street these days. Another great interview 👏👏
1st time ive had a listen to your channel james. Very good. Interesting man speaks a lot of sence. Subscribed
Enlightening conversation, best conversation on drugs and the problems it creates in society ever.. well done the 2 of you..
I bet that cop wasn't paid nowhere near enough for all his grief.
Wasn't even given help to cope with what he dealt with let alone paid enough. Pawns in the game just like soldiers tbh, really sad that the people who want to do right get used and abused
Better than selling drugs..
Brilliant James very exciting stuff looking forward to the next Sunday
Thanks for this interview.
To Neil Woods, you are a great man, you have an amazing heart and I wish you the best in life.
It's a shame you're not still in policing. All the amazing people that have been involved in UK policing always seem to leave, if only there were more of you on active duty.
You're a smart man and I hope you can affect real change. Thanks again.
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😂His house hadn’t been so clean... your laugh James got me laughing me out loud 🤣 X
Hasnt James just got one infectious dynamite laugh.. i love his interviews..now hes a nikey wearing scally 😂😂😂😂😂😂 ❤⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
This guy is a hero. I've been set up by police a couple of times but I don't resent the establishment because there are also a lot of Neil Woods' embedding faith into communities. Thank you mate.
he might look like a public librarian but trust me he has balls of steel
Excellent Podcast, thank you for posting.
The father of a good friend of mine, who was Chief of Police of a large city in France, echoes exactly what he's saying: 'Legalise / control EVERYTHING'. He said there'd be a pile of 'victims' for the first six months and then everything would 'regulate' itself.
Oh, if only our politicians would listen to people like this...
The pile of "victims" could easily be avoided if we set up safe injection rooms.
this video should be shared as much as possible
This copper talks a lot of sence, he's spot on
@Huw chardon 📚 🚔
sense. good cop bad war.read it.
Pity you don’t have the sense to spell
Hi Darren mate... Sounds like your grief was as devastating as grief can possibly be. It also sounds like you're the type of bloke oozing resilience and a great positive approach: I believe you wrote this comment approximately two years ago, so the chances of you actually getting my reply to you feel literally miniscule: However, you never know: It might just so pass that this finds it's way to you at a time when receiving it bang on the nail. I hope so, and that wherever you are it does you as much good as your original message did me. All the best to you mate, R.
Just found this channel and I am impressed by overall good content with great editing and camera work great job keeping it on my list
Do you know what James, this is the second time I’ve watched this interview and I know it was 3 years ago but I don’t think it’s given enough credit, it really is fantastic eye opening interview this
Thanks Paul ❤️
I’ve just come across this channel and video...mate I’m hooked.. this was a quality interview and I’ve watched for hours since yesterday. Had to come back to this (my first view) and say how much sense this bloke talks and how, when laid out in easy to understand terms, more peoples mindset may change
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Outstanding and genuine interview this.
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Chap knows his stuff, great interview. Here in Liverpool it's shootings every other day. Regulate it, licensed establishments.
Cheers mate
Regulate it apart from cannabis. Cannabis should be regulated as much as onions are.....
They really have guns in Britain!? Wow. - Ohio USA.
@@Davido50 You bet. All the shootings are with black market guns. And then they crack down on legal gun owners. Guns are bad m'kay. We don't have legal gun owners causing problems. And we don't count stabbings, fire bombings, running people over in the same category, so yeah, nothing to see here lads. Fella was shot in the face on Halloween, ended up running a 12 year old trick or treater, a little girl over. It's every other day. Most are Czech 9mils, lot of shotties too.
@@princeofdenmark9142Truthfully said. I'm sure they dont get/use the top notch guns us legal owners possess. Glock. S&W & Kimber to name just a few.
I'm working my way through all the guests you've been talking with & by far this has been one of the best conversation. brilliant keep up the good work & folk will watch.
As an American, I love how others use the phrase " wild west "
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Brilliant pod cast one of the best I've seen .
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Gangsters won't come after him,,well sane ones anyway..it was his job and if you live a life of crime it's all in the game
Exactly
So he himself somehow not in the game?
It's all in the game man,the wire
Yeah I hate the uniform not the man behind it. If u get gripped you've been caught slipping full stop
Aye in Baltimore
I know first hand how addiction over decades ruin lives and how illegal markets work. It’s very satisfying to hear somebody who really knows what he’s talking about because most people dealing professional with drugs (politicians, police, doctors,...) don’t really know what they are talking about. Very good interview
Thank you
Very interesting and extremely educational . . Absolutely loved this interview . . Thank you
Brilliant guest James 👏
I really enjoyed this guy's story.
To go from Big Marvin to him just shows the diversity of the show.
Absolutely loving my Sundays with Anything goes 😁
What an amazing man. He is also extremely brave and very wise. I really respect the fact that he had the intellectual courage to realise that what he taught was wrong - and change his opinion and say it publically. Very brave man at both levels of courage.
Incredibly honest. Truly refreshing and logical. What a podcast
Great interview, fascinating subject
This guest needs to be running for a political position within the UK. He understands his own deficiencies as well as the ones your communities are facing regarding crime. Knowing where your lacking to bring in advisors while having a good grasp on what needs to be done in your communities is an amazing combination. His empathy is something that will also be a huge benefit to all those he impacts with policies.
Brilliant interview. I seriously learned a lot. It explains a lot thanks
I just want to say after watching this episode, what a tremendous conversation and grand work from the both of you to deliver such a wonderful bit of content.
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@@JamesEnglish Thanks for taking the time to respond with your undoubtedly busy lifestyle too! What a guy!
Hopefully, one day, I'll create a platform large enough that I could interest you in being across the table. 😅👍
Totally awesome interview. Neil makes so many good points. Before watching, I thought "interesting subject, but no way am I watching an hour and a half". Clicked and was hooked.
One of my fave interviews, gripping start to finish. Very interesting points of view with real experience to back it up, this guy isn't just parroting text or imposing a view from an ivory tower or anything like that, it really wakes up the issue. Before this I was against legalising drugs. I am not saying I am 100% convinced but it's certainly woken me up to the idea... this guy isn't talking shite, he is someone clearly worth listening to! Whilst watching this I thought of another thing we should be doing is ensuring education of child exploitation is done early on in schools... if a lot of adults turn to hard drugs as they are dealing with abuse from childhood, we really need to make it normal for a child to have somewhere to go and and freely tell someone what someone may be doing to them; if people can be afraid that children cannot be pressured or scared to tell someone uncomfortable things, maybe we can stop many of them being absued and then taking the path into drugs too. Fantastic interview!!! Get this man on Question Time and all those mainstream broadcasts... would love to see him do exactly what he did here and calmly wake everybody up; the MPs from their ivory towers wouldn't be able to put the lid back on.
Another amazing podcast James👏🏼... God love Neil he seems as tho he is a shell of himself!!!! He was such a young man to go through all that and that would change anyone you would lose yourself.. Takes a certain type of person to be able to do that job and be undercover xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
That was brilliant and it’s the first time I’ve heard someone else think the same as me.
They're is No war on drug's. It's all a smoke screen, Government control it coming into most country's.. Anyways Thanks for the upload James. Keep doing your vids mate
Jay Lamb naw no war but when your numbers up and your doing 7 you realise there’s a war a fking dirty one
Jay Lamb that is spot on. CIA mi6 they are all covers for drug traffickers
Deffo hear now mate
You're absolutely right there never ever was A-war on drugs a big a** smoke screen or government's dirty As h*** it makes me sick I feel safer with the mafia round our government is one huge dirty a** mafia
America used drug to fund for war. Flooding drug in miami, new york etc. Of course the UK governmen does the same..people need to get their heads out of their ass and stop thinking UK is great
Without doubt the best interview I’ve heard. Bravo to both of you. Outstanding.
Thanks Paul
James English no James, thank you, sir. Might be a long shot, but could you do Albert reading ? If he’s still alive. Liam galvin interviewed him a while back, not sure if you’ve seen it
I must say JAMES ENGLISH is fantastic. A really good interviewer. He should have a BBC /c4 program.
Fuk the BBC, there part of the problem oh aye and they harbour peados n fire the whistle blowers....the British Brainwash Corporation
I’m so fortunate that my father taught me good ethics. It’s a blessing but at times a curse - to watch others harm themselves and others.
Well done. good interview some good interesting questions. looking forward to more 👍🏼🏴good interviewer
Came across your channel yesterday and just love it! The humility and care is amazing!
Thank you
@Missy boo Very true, there's a lot of patience and genuine care. I watched the Danniella one too, thought it was amazing. 🙂
Honest open interview.
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Excellent pod. It all makes so much sense. Great job
First time ever i've disagreed with James, going by what your saying that drugs take people out of reality and shouldnt be legalised then with that theosis shouldnt nicotine and alcohol also be banned?
Wish they too were illegal
do you want someone to wipe your arse also? We have free will if we want something we will get it legal or not
This man is so full of wisdom! Legalizing all drugs is the best way to combat violent gangs and cartels. As an example, here in
Seattle, cannabis has been legal for a few years and many of the old dealers set up their own stores selling a slew of cannabis products including tonics, creams, pills, juice for “shots”etc. Gone is that often violent underground market. It’s a new industry that is legal and the stores are very friendly and respectable. Now instead of committing crimes by distributing drugs, these guys do it as businessmen. All their staff are very knowledgeable and provide advice about their products. In fact, often when you shop in these stores they are full of the older generation picking up creams for arthritis etc☺️
When your elderly relative buys you a top and your mum says you need to wear it so she’s not upset 😂
Huge respect to Neil Woods like others have said there’s something about him I truly truly admire and he’s an honourable and courageous man in fighting for his cause and it takes a lot of character to admit you fought the wrong fight for so much of your career.
Carrying on this ‘ war ‘ against drugs is absolute insanity and I truly believe it’s the quickest thing we could do to make the biggest difference in the world - we need to spread the word about this and make our voices heard it’s gone one for far too long and is absolutely paramount ✊💚
Great interview and insight, poor guy he is quite clearly suffering and yet again the powers that be offer little to no support
One of the best interviews I've seen, powerful stuff.
Cheers Steve
You're never going to win an argument about drugs with this fella James 😂😂
tremendous podcasts james, u have kept me going through the lockdown, i have been stuck in colombia since march[no flights], anyway great stuff james, keep up the good work
It was 1964 when I was stood in Piccadili Circus London. I saw that the 'all night Boots chemist' had a queue outside. Pusseled by this I asked a local why the queue? He answered "they are all drug addicts from a couple of miles around" they were about 12 in number. Taking their 'next day' prescription to claim the drug prescribed by their doctor.
This practice was stopped by the government shortly after.
Piccadili is now filled any night with addicts and so is all other popular places, and every other town in Britain.
This ex cop is dead right.
such a brilliant channel. Real reflection on how good James is!!!
Thank you
Another interview I really rate. Cop was honest about his regrets and trying to change things for the better. James so much better than some poncey public school bbc journalist. He kens the score!
Cheers mik
Great guest. This was one of the best interviews I’ve seen
Thanks
You make drugs legal then there will be no war to be fought on the drugs so no funding for all these cops and the higher ups don't want that. No illegal drugs no high paid drug tsar jobs no high paid ministers jobs. Also in any situation no matter what is illegal there will arise a black market for whatever is made illegal eg: if sugar was illegal some entrepreneur will find a way to make a profit off it, whether its crack, heroin or if its plastic bags or car tyres, illegal goods by definition breed black markets. Can I just also add this guy Neil knows what he's taking about. Everything he has said is total common sense and spot on.
My father was a police officer in Limehouse post war. He was instrumental in shutting down the opium trade and the gangs who operated in the area known as China Town, who also extorted money from the Chinese community. The Chinese people were very grateful for his services, as the work was fraught with danger.
I could listen to you talk about paint drying with that accent 😂
I moved to Buxton a couple of years back. Within 10 seconds of hearing him talk, I was sure he was from Buxton.
Andrea Fitzmaurice 👌
@@markrochford7252 Think she's talking about James mate, change your comment 'just moved to scotland'...
I watched this a few times but forgot to comment. A seriously great interview. I like the difference of opinions but also like how they managed to maintain respect and kept the conversation flowing. I think the undercover police man seems like a likeable man. I like his honesty and he actually seems to know what he is talking about. Straight truths and no BS. These interviews are the reason I subscribed. 👊💯
Two thumbs up man that was an awesome interview
"The opposite of addiction is connection" Gabor Mate speaks very compassionately on this.
does anyone know the real reason alcohol was banned in the early 20's in usa? because at that time 50% of cars were being fueled by raw alcohol.the lobbyist for alcohol prohibition were all funded by the petrol companies.and i bet that won't surprise many people
It's all linked with the cannabis ban
This was really interesting to listen to, great questions James and keep up the fantastic work.
This is a amazing interview. Since a youth I have ALWAYs loved the uk. I wish I could move there.
-your bro from across the pond
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If you don't mind working, you'd be welcome bro.
He answered every question with a personal & professional answer. Fantastic interview. All the best lads, keep er lit.
*i wish our voter and trusted Members of parliament could do the same
I'd love to see a conversation between Neil Woods and Peter Hitchens.
Best interviews out there 👍👍👍
It smelt like the urine of a glue sniffing cat. Brilliant
That's "cat piss" dope. It was the best you can get, then "Hawaiian ice" came in and took the ribbon.
@@jasoncharles8651 i wasn't talking about dope, it is a line in a film which i watching, 🤣🤣. I think you've been smoking too much Hawian ice pmsl
@@scotmac5143 , yes, I was responding to your response to that line.
@@jasoncharles8651I’m sure I had some of that in 2008 . I’d swear it broke through the blue translucent Tesco freezer bag and woulda gone thru my Belingo floor given chance. It got my end of year Accounts organised but I left it alone after that 😮👍
@@jasoncharles8651 it would’ve been 2009 .Anything THAT good had to be BAD for your body & mind.....
Brilliant interview. I know it would never happen but would love to see this guy back on with someone who was involved in organised crime, see what they had to say to each other