I’m personally a fan of the bulky builds because I felt like it added to the outrageous nature of the series itself. Everything was goofy and to the extreme, so having these giant tanks of characters (who were supposed to be like 16) was hilarious alongside it and added to the “bizarre” adventure.
Hahaha oh yeah when I showed the show (Stardust Crusaders) to my apt mate and mentioned Jotaro was a teenage high school student, I had a laugh when he replied, “You mean that 35 year old man???” Lol
i really like araki’s art now a lot more but the older characters should be represented in the ways their power fantasies were meant to be - that’s what people loved about them. i feel like araki needs to come full circle and be able to have a variety of bodies for his characters
I guess that's kind of what makes crossover media like ASB feel cool. You get to see each character as they were represented in their own part and it feels really cool to see smaller build characters like FF and Narancia next to the giant Pillarmen.
Jonathan should be swole. He could even have like a classic 1800s strongman/rugby build - which I would argue would look even better than the brick wall build he has originally. Young Joseph pretty much looks like how he should, you can even tell as a decrepit man with "memory issues" he was always big, and Jotaro looks completely as he should in Part 4 and 6. Same with Josuke and Jolyene.
While the macho style is very iconic to jojo's, the characters seems to look like normal people as time has progress even the characters with very interesting designs like joshu, FF, or random side characters.
I get that having shoulders the size of your head is not really practical, but having all the guys look like their limbs are about to be ripped from their bodies by the wind isn't either. That's pretty much the vibe I got from part 8 designs. I'd say part 4 was a sweet spot, even though the characters were not huge, their bodies looked realistic. After all, being incredibly buff might not be equivalent with being manly, but having a well developed body is in no way unrealistic. So a teen with amazing genetics and a great motivation to be strong(like the hero who saved his life as a child) could very well have a well developed body, even if not to huge proportions.
@@ovidiuvergil i do not know you, but if you were to take a picture of your body, trace it, and look at the trace alone, you may find that humans are not as stocky as a japanese manga may lead you to believe.
The creator of full metal alchemist said it best when she was asked why she draws them the way they are for her manga "men should be vroom, and girls should be hachacha" as she flailed her arms around. Damn it she's right.
@@TheLostCrsuader21They haven't hit adulthood aur young adults remember jotaro was not as near as buff as when he was 17 compared to him being 15 you see where I'm getting with this? I mean that all the main protagonists Of the show after part 3 are teens and are in the ages of 14 15 16 and well for jolyne she's buff too even though she's female and mainly cause she's above 16 (19 to be exact) So the JOESTAR genes only begin when they become 17 years old
While I actually like the change in art as I feel characters like Narancia shouldn’t be built like Broly. But characters like Jotaro and his stand star platinum will always just look lame to me in the changed artstyle.
@@Starplatinum-zv2ql Yeah Skinny Star platinum redesign looks so wrong and lame, OG Part 3 and early Part 4 Star PLatinum and Jotaro are the best versions of the characters.
what I really like about the old style being so bulky, yet (as jojo has always been) hilariously flamboyant, is that it portrays characters that are a good mix of masculine and expressive, ditching the stereotypical personality type all the other muscle-men characters have. they show you can be both "feminine" and "masculine", that you don't have to pick one or the other
while I really like the macho style from part 1 to 3 I do enjoy the skinner look to the rest of the series. But one problem I do have is when the characters from part 1-3 reappear like Dio they kind of look weird
I hated the slender look Josuke got when I first read it, but as time has gone on Ive just accepted that future protags would be slimmer. But I cannot stand when Araki goes back and draws Jonathan, Y Joseph, and Jotaro as these lean figures instead of the brick shithouses they are
Same, especially for the flashbacks in part 5 and 6, would be nice to see BRICK Jotaro in part 5 and 6, would give a nice reason to make Polnareff a brick again as well
Tbh big muscular jojos > twink jojos. Like, at the very least i wish we could get a big buff jojo again, i miss them being comically buff WHILE acting/dressing zesty
I think their builds should stay consistent and be accurate with what they would actually be IRL. Jonathan and Dios builds make sense because they trained to be that way. Jotaro shouldn't be as big as he was in part 3 but he could still have been muscular, just not absolutely shredded like he's on roids. At age 17 its totally possible to be muscular, but not to the extent the characters were in part 3.
You ever seen 18 year old Larry wheels.Absolute tank.Jotaro didn’t get his stand till 17 you don’t start lifting then just give up your fains because you got a super hero minion.
"the third part lost its reason to have bigger characters" its kinda good to be excessively muscular and physically strong when there are stands like Whitesnake that can take away other stands.
Another big name to look out for when talking about arakis earlier style is Antonio Lopez. If you search him up, you will find portraits that look exactly like part 1 jonathon, down to the identical poses. In facf, a common thread that unites all of Lopez works are the unique ways which he poses his subjects in. He is probably the inspiration for using so many untraditional poses.
My personal favourite style is part 4 just because it isn’t too bulky but you can still tell that they are reasonably strong, it also has variety of characters design.
They should be portrayed as their original appearance, so that they can represent the era they were born in. They were so iconic, nobody should change it, not even its creator Araki, just to appeal its new found taste.
I think it's also important to consider how when Araki started drawing JoJo, he was very much influenced by classical art, so the posing and body styles more closely resembled Greek and Roman statues. As he started becoming more interested in modern fashion not only did the bodies start slimming down to more closely match runway models, but the poses also shifted towards a different sort of elegance. I feel like he's really started to hit his stride with the way he's developed his characters towards the end of JoJolion, and the group drawing from the JoJo Magazine issue 2 is one of my favourite--I especially love the modern styling of Jolyne. And while I slightly prefer Joseph's design from part 2, I think the new drawings of Jonathan are really, really cool. I'm just waiting for him to draw Speedwagon again after 30 years!
Ehh, personally though I don't really like how his new art always has that same face syndrome, plus the way some characters like Jonathan who now look pretty skinny despite being a 105 kg 6'5" wall of bricks, it just kind of jars me a bit. It doesn't really match some of the older parts' personalities and stuff they do.
I think the zestyness of the characters combined with the absolute unit size of the characters is a really good contrast with each other and felt really unique.
I believe each style fits each individual Jojo especially in the anime where the drwwing style and animation is more consistent than its manga counterpart. It helps make each jojo part distinct despite being in the same universe, thus adding to the bizarre atmosphere of the entire work.
For the most part, I prefer characters in the original style that they were drawn in. I just can’t look at them any other way. A few examples: Part 8 style Jonathan is something I just can’t visualize DIO looks good in part 6 but his part 1/3 design was much more fitting 4:53 Jolyne looks very jarring here
I definitely prefer the bulkier. I do still like the newer style, though I think old characters should stay as bulky as they used to be, or at least close
On average I’d say I prefer the “twink” style of the new characters but when characters from Part 1 and 2 are redrawn to match current artstyle they should not be “twinkified” as it both looks extremely jarring and doesn’t really make sense considering the actual physical stuff they do
@@RelicQuadranglefax bro, the definition of a twink has gotten shifted over time to meaning any man that isn’t muscular. Google twink inflation of you want to know more.
There is a lot more variety in characters in their build. (at least in the anime haven’t read manga) I notice that in Arakis art everyone looks basically the same and DIU balanced it out well
I like the the modern art style of JoJo for the newer parts, but no matter what I will always hate how Johnathan and young Joseph look. They look completely unrecognizable from their original part and i can't even tell the difference between them in Araki's modern style
To me I always assumed it was because in the 80s and early 90s bulky action stars were the norm in movies but, as the middle to late 90s it started shifting to more slender action stars.
What's hilarious to me personally is Josuke "Gappy" Higashikata wears a loose fitting Sailors outfit and looks like a toothpick á la Giorno, but is actually cut like a diamond. There is no sleeper about his build and yet he hides it with his fit.
I like the idea that the art style is a lens through which reality is perceived, to the point that it can even make past events and characters look different. I just love that impressionist vibe where reality is just a suggestion of what the brain ultimately receives. Perhaps we know Jonathan and Joseph as we know them simply because the bombasticism of the style in which they are rendered, are part of a kind of embellishment of their greatness that naturally comes from describing one's distant ancestors.
I saw Araki say in an interview that parts 1-3 are based of charakters of legend, mythology, gods and demi-gods, superhumans But part 4 onwards he was trying to make them more human, in both appearanse and personality So from heroes to just admire and inspire, to also humans that are relatable
I really like both styles, but at the end, seeing Jonathan and Joseph this skinny is weird, especially Jonathan, knowing that he used to be a Rugby player and was supposed to be able to kill someone with a kick (that's the reason he became friends with Speedwagon)
It's funny how older bulkier characters are drawn more slender in the newer chapters, implying that if slender characters appeared back in parts 1-3, they would be equally as jacked as the others there.
curiously the writer tried to portrait that you don't need to be big or use masculine dresses to be masculine, but when he changed the style everyone started to say it was gay
I feel like part 4 was a really good place for the artstyle, still big to an extent with needed characters but were also allowed me to smaller like with Koichi
I like the strong and buff earlier designs more. Funny enough I was always a huge Arnold Schwarzenegger fan. So to me seeing how buff and strong a Jotaro type can be is the embodiment of masculinity and what it looks like to be a tough guy who can handle the harsh realities of the world.
Not to mention that the designs changed further, as you continue towards part 6, they become more realistic and glamorous than before. I remember reading Jojolion and seeing how so much of the art looks as close to real life humans as it can.
Seems to be a bit of a hot take, but I prefer the old buff designs even though I like the new parts much better. Idk, the old style just more unique and bizarre when you look at it today, even though that was the standard in manga back in the day.
Also Araki does a lot of tracing over models so as the beauty standard changed in modeling his style would definitely change as well. (most of the cover art is model stuff)
2:54 bullshit, Fist of the North Star had tons of dramatic moments that show the characters crying and that was something present in nearly every series inspired by it
ive always hated the weird shape araki chose to have the characters in part 5 with the dorito shaped torsos, thin arms and legs, and really deep shoulder divots (for some reason)
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I like how in the first 3 parts characters manage to look incredibly masculine while walking, acting or dressing in a feminine way, like kakyoin walking with one arm bent upwards like he’s on a catwalk or something, but they just look, act and sound so manly that they look more masculine than basically everyone anyways
When i first started watching jojo, i would be so amazed and inspired by the old artstyle and how buff the characters were. When i looked at Jonathan Joestar and his physique for the first time, i was inspired. I wanted to be buff and strong as Jonathan, to this day i'm still working towards that goal. It sounds crazy but jojo has been a crazy motivation for me to be strong and masculine.
The buff bulky art styles are the ones I like much better Makes them look so cool Plus male characters just being buff and jacked is cool asf Namek SSJ Goku
The buff designs are iconic, no doubt about that, from Joseph, DIO, the Pillar Men, Jonathon, etc etc. however, Part 5-8 art style is what makes JOJO’s stand out to me, the slender Physique and detailed face makes it recognisable as JOJO’s. Having said that, I like Part 8 style Jonathon, Joseph, Jotaro and Josuke, it makes sense, having the bulky figures would clash with the style. The only catch is that it makes the Pillar Men and DIO look a bit jarring given how intimidating they where in the original style.
Tbh the slim look makes sense for Jotaro in part 3 (like how it was depicted in part 5) since he's only 17, then he should've gotten a lot bigger in 4 and slimmed down again in 6 after his coma.
I love jojos and araki's art is beautiful. But i do think lately he is falling into same face and same body syndrome, so different body types would be a plus imo
I like the take artstyle they did in the games like in Eyes of heaven. Part 1 and 2 characters are ripped while 3 to 4 are the in between and 5 onwards are lean. I really like how Jotaro looks in those games not as buff as Johnathan or Joseph but not as small as Josuke or even part 5 characters.
not much of a personal preference but a fact, Jojo Artstyle for human characters just before the Josuke Redesign were incredibly badass and Im talking about their faces, however on part 6 and later parts the Artstyle used on humans turned badass again, you can see how the eyes and face shapes change... then part 8 facial structure looks unique, the artist truly evolved and made his own artstyle, I dont really mind the changes on body shapes but the faces for me look way better on part 4 before the redesign of all, it was PEAK imo.
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i think part 4 is a good middle ground, its keeps the general build of older characters without slimming them down too much. Jotaro right at the end is so jarring to look at tbh
Tldr Hokuto No Ken was popular and changed the game for a bit. Early jojo was literally “we have hokuto no ken at home” which is hilarious considering that modern jojo is more popular here then HnK ever was
For me it has always been simply an illustration of how the battlefield was shifting from the physical plane to more and more abstract and intellectual ones
Love jojos bizarre, personally I like the manly macho styles like, Jonathon, Joseph & Jotaro. This is something that's needed more especially in this day and age where masculinity is constantly under attack. Theres a reason why Jotaro is like the fan favorite with the majority cause the guys masculine & hes built like a muscular hero, hes a man of few words and kicks ass, he has style but doesnt go into twink category like how they did during Giorno Giovanna saga, that was the toughest season to watch for me characters had horrendous looking attires and they werent as likeable as the character's from the previous seasons.
That’s Gen Zs problem, back the day we just liked him cause he was cool shonen action protag, wasn’t that deep. What’s seen as masculine now was just seen as really gay back then
@@Timmy-mi2efI don't entirely agree with that, there's alot of blood and violence in the show, its not a suitable kids show & for most teens also firstly. Also when I was a kid/teen I wanted to be big & strong and bulked up one day & not a skinny and fraile looking type, there are a ton of kids / teens who want to aspire to being big and strong and athletic like their favorite anime characters one day & there's nothing wrong with that.
I loved how big and powerful the older characters looked but I also love the fact that araki is implementing more of what real world high fashion looks like I think that he should've kept characters like jotaro larger just because of the way he used to look just slightly toned down to fit with the new style
I enjoy both but the newer style personally. I got into this series about 3-5 years ago when I was into a fitness journey and part 3 was the earliest parts Netflix offered, I loved seeing them still be able to be confident and comfortable in their own masculinity even though they had effeminate qualities, it really reflects on society today!
Dude, wow, loved this video and your editing skill sets. Just amazing. And truth be told, for me personally I think I love both. I enjoy peak physique but simultaneously enjoy the gradual shift and transition to portraying a more natural and model like JoJo. While the beauty standards are changing, to me, it feels like Araki has deviated from the popularity of big muscular men and allowed his style to grow with him. Idk, it feels like I’m just repeating some of what you said but I love both for many reasons. However, I’d still love to see a display of an array of body types. I’d love to hopefully see a chapter in the future hoping for a mesh of showcasing characters with his old style and current one. Though, I’m not entirely sure how other readers may interpret that or if they would take a liking to seeing contrasting styles.
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I’m personally a fan of the bulky builds because I felt like it added to the outrageous nature of the series itself. Everything was goofy and to the extreme, so having these giant tanks of characters (who were supposed to be like 16) was hilarious alongside it and added to the “bizarre” adventure.
yeah and like what are they feeding them kids
Hahaha oh yeah when I showed the show (Stardust Crusaders) to my apt mate and mentioned Jotaro was a teenage high school student, I had a laugh when he replied, “You mean that 35 year old man???” Lol
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i really like araki’s art now a lot more but the older characters should be represented in the ways their power fantasies were meant to be - that’s what people loved about them. i feel like araki needs to come full circle and be able to have a variety of bodies for his characters
The one thing I really like about the older design is how intimidating the characters looked
yes
@@TheLostCrsuader21 You summarised Early Part 4 Josuke in one sentence. I love it.
I guess that's kind of what makes crossover media like ASB feel cool. You get to see each character as they were represented in their own part and it feels really cool to see smaller build characters like FF and Narancia next to the giant Pillarmen.
We need JoJo Fat
I feel they both work for their respective parts, I feel having a skinny Jonathan wouldn’t work like having a bulk Giorno.
that makes sense. the body size and personalities were designed around their time after all and a characters design should fit his/her personality
Jonathan should be swole. He could even have like a classic 1800s strongman/rugby build - which I would argue would look even better than the brick wall build he has originally.
Young Joseph pretty much looks like how he should, you can even tell as a decrepit man with "memory issues" he was always big, and Jotaro looks completely as he should in Part 4 and 6. Same with Josuke and Jolyene.
A hulking monster Giorno would be hilarious
@@charleswinters9567 Giorno : sorry boss but your king crimson cannot get past all this bulk
Buff giorno feels WRONG
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While the macho style is very iconic to jojo's, the characters seems to look like normal people as time has progress even the characters with very interesting designs like joshu, FF, or random side characters.
The macho style was unique and one of the reasons why I liked the earlier seasons of Jojo, wish they would have brought it back for Part 9.
@@JimmyPizzaDeliveryjotaro and Joseph lord amazing with the macho artstyle
I get that having shoulders the size of your head is not really practical, but having all the guys look like their limbs are about to be ripped from their bodies by the wind isn't either. That's pretty much the vibe I got from part 8 designs. I'd say part 4 was a sweet spot, even though the characters were not huge, their bodies looked realistic. After all, being incredibly buff might not be equivalent with being manly, but having a well developed body is in no way unrealistic. So a teen with amazing genetics and a great motivation to be strong(like the hero who saved his life as a child) could very well have a well developed body, even if not to huge proportions.
@@ovidiuvergil i do not know you, but if you were to take a picture of your body, trace it, and look at the trace alone, you may find that humans are not as stocky as a japanese manga may lead you to believe.
Not a good thing lmao
3:02
"Ceasar and Joseph fight vampires dressed like bad bitches" that got me 💀💀💀
I liked them being buff, it was way funnier seeing big buff men hit each other with ghost and breathing styles
I’m glad that Araki’s been able to grow as an artist but goddamn
I miss when the boys were *big*
Tbh the pillar men kinda inspired me to start exercising cause it gave me a goal to get to
100% understandable. Baki definitely motivated me to get myself together years ago
To become the ultimate lifeform
Lesgooo!!
Literally man
Sadly you will never Kars, the ultimate life form
Lucky for you, you won't be send to space
A mix of big and normal-sized main characters would be brilliant
The creator of full metal alchemist said it best when she was asked why she draws them the way they are for her manga "men should be vroom, and girls should be hachacha" as she flailed her arms around. Damn it she's right.
Man and woman should be whaaaaat?
What does that mean?
It's really weird to see Jotaro in the new style
It definitely is. Jonathan and young Joseph are unrecognizable and almost look identical in some art as well.
Fr it's weird as hell
@@TheLostCrsuader21They haven't hit adulthood aur young adults remember jotaro was not as near as buff as when he was 17 compared to him being 15 you see where I'm getting with this? I mean that all the main protagonists
Of the show after part 3 are teens and are in the ages of 14 15 16 and well for jolyne she's buff too even though she's female and mainly cause she's above 16 (19 to be exact)
So the JOESTAR genes only begin when they become 17 years old
While I actually like the change in art as I feel characters like Narancia shouldn’t be built like Broly. But characters like Jotaro and his stand star platinum will always just look lame to me in the changed artstyle.
Did you just call me lame. Every time you are not running I am coming closer
@@Starplatinum-zv2ql Yeah Skinny Star platinum redesign looks so wrong and lame, OG Part 3 and early Part 4 Star PLatinum and Jotaro are the best versions of the characters.
@@localdude2979 Don't forget part 1 star platinum
@@Starplatinum-zv2ql you mean Kars?
@@localdude2979 no Jonathan
I like the part 4 artstyle the most, it is something between the newer super skinny and the older muscular characters
what I really like about the old style being so bulky, yet (as jojo has always been) hilariously flamboyant, is that it portrays characters that are a good mix of masculine and expressive, ditching the stereotypical personality type all the other muscle-men characters have. they show you can be both "feminine" and "masculine", that you don't have to pick one or the other
while I really like the macho style from part 1 to 3
I do enjoy the skinner look to the rest of the series. But one problem I do have is when the characters from part 1-3 reappear like Dio they kind of look weird
Seeing Jotaro become more lean in parts 4 and 6 definitely took some getting used to
They were probably meant for the bricky look for their parts
@@TheLostCrsuader21honestly jotaro in the newer artstyle is my favorite look for him
@@Ndrewyy I can't lie, he still does look cool as hell, just very different
I hated the slender look Josuke got when I first read it, but as time has gone on Ive just accepted that future protags would be slimmer. But I cannot stand when Araki goes back and draws Jonathan, Y Joseph, and Jotaro as these lean figures instead of the brick shithouses they are
Same, especially for the flashbacks in part 5 and 6, would be nice to see BRICK Jotaro in part 5 and 6, would give a nice reason to make Polnareff a brick again as well
It's straight up insulting
@@KessekomIt's pretty fucking bad
@@Kessekom Cope, muscular men are stronger and look better
@@Kessekom it's also harder to draw musculature than useless stick arms.
Tbh big muscular jojos > twink jojos.
Like, at the very least i wish we could get a big buff jojo again, i miss them being comically buff WHILE acting/dressing zesty
Jojo fans will never beat the gay allegations atp
you think design wise only right??
BUFF STANDLESS SPIN USER WHEN?
@@Timmy-mi2ef brother, they aint allegations. That's just rule one of being a JoJo fan. WE'RE GAY AS HELL.
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I think their builds should stay consistent and be accurate with what they would actually be IRL. Jonathan and Dios builds make sense because they trained to be that way. Jotaro shouldn't be as big as he was in part 3 but he could still have been muscular, just not absolutely shredded like he's on roids. At age 17 its totally possible to be muscular, but not to the extent the characters were in part 3.
Yeah Jotaro is only 81 kg in weight compared to Jonathan, who is 105 kg.
You ever seen 18 year old Larry wheels.Absolute tank.Jotaro didn’t get his stand till 17 you don’t start lifting then just give up your fains because you got a super hero minion.
No one should be as ripped as them naturally.
"the third part lost its reason to have bigger characters" its kinda good to be excessively muscular and physically strong when there are stands like Whitesnake that can take away other stands.
That’s a fair point
Whitesnake also takes your memories away effectively putting you in a coma, and it also didn't exist in part 3
The older art was perfect. PERFECT!
Another big name to look out for when talking about arakis earlier style is Antonio Lopez. If you search him up, you will find portraits that look exactly like part 1 jonathon, down to the identical poses. In facf, a common thread that unites all of Lopez works are the unique ways which he poses his subjects in. He is probably the inspiration for using so many untraditional poses.
My personal favourite style is part 4 just because it isn’t too bulky but you can still tell that they are reasonably strong, it also has variety of characters design.
They should be portrayed as their original appearance, so that they can represent the era they were born in. They were so iconic, nobody should change it, not even its creator Araki, just to appeal its new found taste.
I think it's also important to consider how when Araki started drawing JoJo, he was very much influenced by classical art, so the posing and body styles more closely resembled Greek and Roman statues. As he started becoming more interested in modern fashion not only did the bodies start slimming down to more closely match runway models, but the poses also shifted towards a different sort of elegance.
I feel like he's really started to hit his stride with the way he's developed his characters towards the end of JoJolion, and the group drawing from the JoJo Magazine issue 2 is one of my favourite--I especially love the modern styling of Jolyne. And while I slightly prefer Joseph's design from part 2, I think the new drawings of Jonathan are really, really cool. I'm just waiting for him to draw Speedwagon again after 30 years!
I don't want him to draw Speedwagon again. I was excited to see Jonathan in the new style and regretted it horribly ;-;
Ehh, personally though I don't really like how his new art always has that same face syndrome, plus the way some characters like Jonathan who now look pretty skinny despite being a 105 kg 6'5" wall of bricks, it just kind of jars me a bit. It doesn't really match some of the older parts' personalities and stuff they do.
But yeah, Araki's art is stil nice to look at ig.
You know what's controversial? Saying that you actually like araki's modern style
And I gotta say, I like it too
I think the zestyness of the characters combined with the absolute unit size of the characters is a really good contrast with each other and felt really unique.
I believe each style fits each individual Jojo especially in the anime where the drwwing style and animation is more consistent than its manga counterpart. It helps make each jojo part distinct despite being in the same universe, thus adding to the bizarre atmosphere of the entire work.
0:57 why Jonathan looks so goofy
I love the buff style but part 7 and 8 were peak Araki art
For the most part, I prefer characters in the original style that they were drawn in. I just can’t look at them any other way. A few examples:
Part 8 style Jonathan is something I just can’t visualize
DIO looks good in part 6 but his part 1/3 design was much more fitting
4:53 Jolyne looks very jarring here
I definitely prefer the bulkier. I do still like the newer style, though I think old characters should stay as bulky as they used to be, or at least close
On average I’d say I prefer the “twink” style of the new characters but when characters from Part 1 and 2 are redrawn to match current artstyle they should not be “twinkified” as it both looks extremely jarring and doesn’t really make sense considering the actual physical stuff they do
Yeah I had just commented almost the same thing. It’s weird seeing Jotaro being super ripped in Part 3, only to be skinny in parts 4 and 5.
@@Not_Ciel he got even slimmer in part 6🙃
@@Sensuix Imo part 6 Jotaro looks bigger than part 5 Jotaro
Just because someone is super thin doesn't make them a twink. the labels people use nowadays.
@@RelicQuadranglefax bro, the definition of a twink has gotten shifted over time to meaning any man that isn’t muscular. Google twink inflation of you want to know more.
I think Diamond is Unbreakable was a great balance. They started to get a little too lean with almost no muscular physique later.
they are stil to buff to this day for shonens average
There is a lot more variety in characters in their build. (at least in the anime haven’t read manga)
I notice that in Arakis art everyone looks basically the same and DIU balanced it out well
I like the the modern art style of JoJo for the newer parts, but no matter what I will always hate how Johnathan and young Joseph look. They look completely unrecognizable from their original part and i can't even tell the difference between them in Araki's modern style
I adore the new one its so quirky and its so special, you can immediately recognize it
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To me I always assumed it was because in the 80s and early 90s bulky action stars were the norm in movies but, as the middle to late 90s it started shifting to more slender action stars.
It'd be great if Araki were to throw a beefcake like Jonathan in the mix again, even as an enemy
What's hilarious to me personally is Josuke "Gappy" Higashikata wears a loose fitting Sailors outfit and looks like a toothpick á la Giorno, but is actually cut like a diamond. There is no sleeper about his build and yet he hides it with his fit.
The og josuke look like kakyoin
I like the idea that the art style is a lens through which reality is perceived, to the point that it can even make past events and characters look different. I just love that impressionist vibe where reality is just a suggestion of what the brain ultimately receives.
Perhaps we know Jonathan and Joseph as we know them simply because the bombasticism of the style in which they are rendered, are part of a kind of embellishment of their greatness that naturally comes from describing one's distant ancestors.
I saw Araki say in an interview that parts 1-3 are based of charakters of legend, mythology, gods and demi-gods, superhumans
But part 4 onwards he was trying to make them more human, in both appearanse and personality
So from heroes to just admire and inspire, to also humans that are relatable
I really like both styles, but at the end, seeing Jonathan and Joseph this skinny is weird, especially Jonathan, knowing that he used to be a Rugby player and was supposed to be able to kill someone with a kick (that's the reason he became friends with Speedwagon)
It's funny how older bulkier characters are drawn more slender in the newer chapters, implying that if slender characters appeared back in parts 1-3, they would be equally as jacked as the others there.
curiously the writer tried to portrait that you don't need to be big or use masculine dresses to be masculine, but when he changed the style everyone started to say it was gay
I feel like part 4 was a really good place for the artstyle, still big to an extent with needed characters but were also allowed me to smaller like with Koichi
Koichi was the Frank Reynolds of the group
Funny how it seems that every backways backwater idea on this side of the world can be linked back to ronald goddamn raegan.
Jonathan in older artstyle: built like a freaking tank.
Jonathan in new artstyle: lean boi.
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I like the strong and buff earlier designs more. Funny enough I was always a huge Arnold Schwarzenegger fan. So to me seeing how buff and strong a Jotaro type can be is the embodiment of masculinity and what it looks like to be a tough guy who can handle the harsh realities of the world.
Ironically Jotaro was more form Clint east wood then Arnold, and Clint was never huge exactly in at least comparatively.
0:45 and fist of the north star was inspired by violence jack, which is a devilman spin-off
It’s so funny everyone but koichi shrank from the start and end of part 4
0:24 Very cool transition !
I'm glad you think so!
Not to mention that the designs changed further, as you continue towards part 6, they become more realistic and glamorous than before. I remember reading Jojolion and seeing how so much of the art looks as close to real life humans as it can.
Okay but we can all agree that their shoulders changed shape in the anime is the best part of the redesign
Nah I like the tyre shoulders
the transition of art styles was actually pretty smooth, like its drastic… if your a bint which compares part 1 to part 5 directly
Seems to be a bit of a hot take, but I prefer the old buff designs even though I like the new parts much better. Idk, the old style just more unique and bizarre when you look at it today, even though that was the standard in manga back in the day.
Also Araki does a lot of tracing over models so as the beauty standard changed in modeling his style would definitely change as well. (most of the cover art is model stuff)
give us back the MUSCLE
2:54 bullshit, Fist of the North Star had tons of dramatic moments that show the characters crying and that was something present in nearly every series inspired by it
ive always hated the weird shape araki chose to have the characters in part 5 with the dorito shaped torsos, thin arms and legs, and really deep shoulder divots (for some reason)
This is a really impressive video -- concise, well-researched, and exploring a question with a far greater degree of depth than most anime essays. Subbed.
I like how in the first 3 parts characters manage to look incredibly masculine while walking, acting or dressing in a feminine way, like kakyoin walking with one arm bent upwards like he’s on a catwalk or something, but they just look, act and sound so manly that they look more masculine than basically everyone anyways
When i first started watching jojo, i would be so amazed and inspired by the old artstyle and how buff the characters were. When i looked at Jonathan Joestar and his physique for the first time, i was inspired. I wanted to be buff and strong as Jonathan, to this day i'm still working towards that goal. It sounds crazy but jojo has been a crazy motivation for me to be strong and masculine.
Not sure if they’re good examples since they’re quite unrealistic. Like you would need to take steroids to have a similar physique as Jonathan.
@@sarasarita8855RAAAAARGHH I WILL HAVE 30 INCH BICEPS AND HAVE A STAND
Well when you’re ready to take those steroids you better get some Cbum advice
@@Archer170 Why do it with roids when you're natty?
@@XxZaFantomuxX If you want a similar look to the og joestar you need steroids.
The buff bulky art styles are the ones I like much better
Makes them look so cool
Plus male characters just being buff and jacked is cool asf
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this is a great vid explaining the artstyle shift keep up the ggod
work
Thanks for watching, there's definitely more on the way!
The buff designs are iconic, no doubt about that, from Joseph, DIO, the Pillar Men, Jonathon, etc etc. however, Part 5-8 art style is what makes JOJO’s stand out to me, the slender Physique and detailed face makes it recognisable as JOJO’s. Having said that, I like Part 8 style Jonathon, Joseph, Jotaro and Josuke, it makes sense, having the bulky figures would clash with the style. The only catch is that it makes the Pillar Men and DIO look a bit jarring given how intimidating they where in the original style.
But does it stand out in a good way?
Tbh the slim look makes sense for Jotaro in part 3 (like how it was depicted in part 5) since he's only 17, then he should've gotten a lot bigger in 4 and slimmed down again in 6 after his coma.
Great Video Essay really well put together video!
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you liked it!
I love jojos and araki's art is beautiful. But i do think lately he is falling into same face and same body syndrome, so different body types would be a plus imo
I like the take artstyle they did in the games like in Eyes of heaven. Part 1 and 2 characters are ripped while 3 to 4 are the in between and 5 onwards are lean.
I really like how Jotaro looks in those games not as buff as Johnathan or Joseph but not as small as Josuke or even part 5 characters.
I can appreciate the old artstyle, but I much prefer the "twinkified" look Araki's characters have now
well said 😂
I hate the twinkified art style
Like I can’t see Jotaro the same
Same with Jonathan and Young Joseph
That’s why I love the bulky builds
Why you guys calling it that it's more like normal human body sizes
@@JodaroKujojotaro in the part 8 artstyle is so good imo
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Buff Josuke is gonna give me nightmares
not much of a personal preference but a fact, Jojo Artstyle for human characters just before the Josuke Redesign were incredibly badass and Im talking about their faces, however on part 6 and later parts the Artstyle used on humans turned badass again, you can see how the eyes and face shapes change... then part 8 facial structure looks unique, the artist truly evolved and made his own artstyle, I dont really mind the changes on body shapes but the faces for me look way better on part 4 before the redesign of all, it was PEAK imo.
I don't disagree with what you wrote but none of what you wrote is a fact. It is all personal opinions
@@MrPonthusHe does say imo
@@Timmy-mi2ef "not much of a personal preference but a fact," is how he started his comment. Read before you reply please.
@@MrPonthus "imo" was also said. Read before you reply please
@@Timmy-mi2ef are you stupid or what? Reread my last reply. He said that what he was about to say, would be, not an opinion, but a fact. But he went on to state an opinion, not a fact. Discrepancy. Doesn't matter if he later on said "that's just my opinion". Then he's just changing his mind in the middle of his comment. Doesn't change the fact that he started off his comment by saying that what he was about to say would be a FACT and NOT an opinion. This is not something that I'm going to argue about with some internet moron. He said that he wouldn't say opinions but only facts, but that wasn't the case. End of story. Get your internet entertainment from somewhere else
This video should be retitled as
Why Jojo's Character turned from Muscular Chad to Gay
Funny enough, part 2 was both😂. Kars and Esidisi raised Wamuu and Santana together lol
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Kars and Eisidisi are asexual having no interest in such things
@@soultaker823You’re missing the joke.
Turned? This is JoJo my boy. They were always gay
i think part 4 is a good middle ground, its keeps the general build of older characters without slimming them down too much. Jotaro right at the end is so jarring to look at tbh
Tldr Hokuto No Ken was popular and changed the game for a bit. Early jojo was literally “we have hokuto no ken at home” which is hilarious considering that modern jojo is more popular here then HnK ever was
I miss seeing every character as a jacked demigod
For me it has always been simply an illustration of how the battlefield was shifting from the physical plane to more and more abstract and intellectual ones
PB and BT make sense to have the buffness. Once stands come along, the stands do most of the fighting so being buff isn't necessary.
in part 5 we saw tiny jotaro and it was weird, but big josuke is more cursed
I like the bulkier builds for their respective parts and vice versa for the later ones
Thank you for turning what could’ve been a 40 minute video essay to a 5 minute vid
Nobody has time for that lmao
Love jojos bizarre, personally I like the manly macho styles like, Jonathon, Joseph & Jotaro. This is something that's needed more especially in this day and age where masculinity is constantly under attack. Theres a reason why Jotaro is like the fan favorite with the majority cause the guys masculine & hes built like a muscular hero, hes a man of few words and kicks ass, he has style but doesnt go into twink category like how they did during Giorno Giovanna saga, that was the toughest season to watch for me characters had horrendous looking attires and they werent as likeable as the character's from the previous seasons.
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I feel exactly the same way
That’s Gen Zs problem, back the day we just liked him cause he was cool shonen action protag, wasn’t that deep. What’s seen as masculine now was just seen as really gay back then
The skinny style works better with kids/teens imo I take stuff a bit less seriously when they're stockmen still like the style though
@@Timmy-mi2efI don't entirely agree with that, there's alot of blood and violence in the show, its not a suitable kids show & for most teens also firstly. Also when I was a kid/teen I wanted to be big & strong and bulked up one day & not a skinny and fraile looking type, there are a ton of kids / teens who want to aspire to being big and strong and athletic like their favorite anime characters one day & there's nothing wrong with that.
this video is really well done, surprised u had less than 1k subs
Jojo's went from Muscular to Model-esque.
I liked muscular more
wow i deadass thought Fist of the North Star was the old jojo series, i guess you learn something new everyday.
Why don't they just make the newer character slim while Jotaro keeps his bulky built? That would be better
I loved how big and powerful the older characters looked but I also love the fact that araki is implementing more of what real world high fashion looks like I think that he should've kept characters like jotaro larger just because of the way he used to look just slightly toned down to fit with the new style
I enjoy both but the newer style personally. I got into this series about 3-5 years ago when I was into a fitness journey and part 3 was the earliest parts Netflix offered, I loved seeing them still be able to be confident and comfortable in their own masculinity even though they had effeminate qualities, it really reflects on society today!
Part 2 will always be my favourite
One of the reasons I don’t like it it’s making the buff dudes slim but the characters that were introduced as slim were good
Dude, wow, loved this video and your editing skill sets. Just amazing.
And truth be told, for me personally I think I love both. I enjoy peak physique but simultaneously enjoy the gradual shift and transition to portraying a more natural and model like JoJo. While the beauty standards are changing, to me, it feels like Araki has deviated from the popularity of big muscular men and allowed his style to grow with him. Idk, it feels like I’m just repeating some of what you said but I love both for many reasons.
However, I’d still love to see a display of an array of body types. I’d love to hopefully see a chapter in the future hoping for a mesh of showcasing characters with his old style and current one. Though, I’m not entirely sure how other readers may interpret that or if they would take a liking to seeing contrasting styles.
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Low key I'm a fan of the ova JoJo build
Alternate title: The Twinkification of Jojo
I would say part 4 had the best art style ever
I prefer the bulky manly looks over the skinny and zesty looks 💅
I think certain characters look better leaner or more muscular but personally I love the muscle look