ISRAEL’S DEMOCRATIC DECEPTION - Not All People Are Created Equal.
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Democracies as we think of them have one main element that is absolute, is that all are created equal, in how all have the same opportunities to seek their path in life without subjugation or the preferential treatment of a majority or group over another. To have the same freedoms and rights of your other compatriots. These are the principles in how democracies are judged. If these fundamentals are not honoured, then one may not call them democracies since they fail the basic litmus test of equality and liberty.
And this is what our video addresses, how Israel, a nation claimed to be a democracy is in reality far from it. How is suppresses certain substantial minorities of its population while at the same time provide major and obvious preferential treatment to its Jewish citizens and immigrants.
We don’t need to look far. All we have to do is list the black and white laws that are in effect, that have slowly reflected the inequality and suppression found in Israel.
Adalah Website for full details on Israel unjust laws: www.adalah.org
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Israel is the perfect example of what democracy means under us hegemony
@@yokothespacewhale Whatever that means 🙄
Most muslim nations are not democracies , many are very poor nations . And many have poor human rights records .
@@allanbrown3065 I didn’t say a single thing about Muslims but I know you’re really concerned about them. So please go on and tell ‘em about Muslims when I’m trying to talk about the crimes of Israel 😂
@@yokothespacewhale you should watch Yosef Hadad, he has realy good takes on the matter. (he's an Israely Christian Arab)
Israel is not democracy but stealing lands and genocide.
@@allanbrown3065 being called a "democracy" doesn't mean sh*t if you're unaliving tens of thousands of people as if they're cockroaches. What's the point of your "human rights record"? your words don't mean sh*t if your actions are the opposite. You can criticize muslim nations all you want with your meaningless bureaucratic words, I don't see them running around destroying countries, unaliving people and stealing lands (except of course for your dear allies---as per expected).
These are not divine acts from a chosen people. These are the actions of people who are being led by Satan.
Remember Satan got thrown out of heaven for thinking he's superior to Prophet Adam
@@charriot9666
The original sin "racism"
@@FR33_PALESTIN33
Yes, and all of you are great sinners.
@@FR33_PALESTIN33 Islam has 1400 years of brutal conquest , occupation , enslavement , forced conversion , child marriage and pedophilia 👎🏻 and killing of millions of “ infidels “ and each other over the Sunni / Shia feud 👎🏻👎🏻🙄
@@allanbrown3065 Hello chosen of Jeffery Epstien how can I help you today?
I've begun to share every single one of your videos with my family. Although my children are grown, this has become a part of our family time, and I pray that when I do have grandchildren, it will be passed on to them. InshaAllah
Oh wow Kevin. Your dynamic is the dream when I set forth on this content creation journey, to help in sharing knowledge, but with you it's even more amazing, from one generation to the next. I am truly humbled and grateful.
@@thekandarichronicles Thank we pray that Allah allows you to keep enlightening the masses.
Incredibly powerful
Thank you T! Glad you enjoyed it. Say hello to the family for me.
# Free, Free Palestine 🇵🇸🍉
Agreed, agreed and agreed.
Some people are more equal than others, it is called apartheid
Correct 100% Well said.
Some people tell baldfaced lies about "apartheid" in Israel. It's called propaganda.
MORE EQUAL? Lol wut?
@@TimJBucci George Orwell's Animal Farm: All animals are created equally but some are more equal than others.
And yet the local Arabs would rather live in Israel than in any other Muslim country.
Excellent explanation. Thank you Kandari!
My pleasure! Appreciate your wonderful support.
Very fairly & clearly presented. Thank you
Glad that it resonated.
Thanks Tariq for another thought provoking video.
It really challenges the conventional narrative of what a democracy should be. When it comes to Israel, the claim that it is the 'only democracy in the Middle East' seems hollow given the systemic discrimination against Palestinian citizens.
Personally, I don't believe that democracy is necessarily the right form of rule for everyone. The idea that democracy is the best method of governance is disputable, and this video reinforces that viewpoint.
We need to question these labels and look at the actual practices and policies in place. It's essential to distinguish between democracy and the fulfillment of human rights and equality for everyone. True governance should mean equal rights and opportunities for all citizens, not just a privileged majority. It's time we reevaluate what we consider a 'democracy' and whether it truly serves all its people fairly.
Thank you ABN. I appreciate your sharing. I totally agree with your second point about democracy. Peoples are at different stages in their self governance, societies, etc and hence once system might not align with the current times. Even with the theories of democracy can we say that the USA is really representative of the rule by the people?
@@thekandarichronicles
Thank you for your thoughtful response. I agree that democracy isn't necessarily the best form of governance for every society. In my opinion, a fair meritocracy could potentially be a superior system. Meritocracy emphasizes the importance of ability and talent, ensuring that those who are most capable and knowledgeable are in positions of power. This can lead to more efficient and effective governance, tailored to the unique needs and stages of different societies. The key is ensuring fairness and equal opportunity within that meritocratic framework.
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On that note, how about an idea for a video exploring the thoughts and contributions of historical figures like Ibn Khaldun, Al-Farabi, and other ancient scholars and scientists in sociology? A video delving into their ideas and how they could inform modern governance would be fascinating.
@@ABN_UA-cam The problem with meritocracy is that it has no countermeasures for ethnic nepotism. Do you think merit made Jews 41% of Harvard's faculty?
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Countermeasures could be put in place
An elected representation can overlook the government ,with insured fair representation of all minorities , moreover ethnic nepotism is a bigger problem under democratic governance.
🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥Does anyone else find it interesting that you cannot spell Israel without the letters L-I-A-R-S 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I personally am not surprised.
@@thekandarichronicles
Are you comfortable supporting racist commenters on your post?
How do you reconcile this with your supposed stance that all people should be treated equally?
@@naomiharbour7841 it’s not racist to disagree with a government of a country. Do you agree with all the governments in the world? Chinese or Saudi? That doesn’t mean you Hate the people that live there or that you are a racist. But when you say that certain people of certain ethnicity in a country are not equal to other people living in that country than you are a racist.
@@naomiharbour7841 because Israel have been lying about being the only democracy in the ME
Only the Jews got Equal in Israël , but the falastine citizens are not equal, they are kick out From there homes , they are not allowed to vote and they want to travel in Israël, they have to show a permit, without that they cannot work or visit their families or friends
Wonderful, but I wish you had also mentioned land ownership. Much of the land cannot be sold or leased to Non Jews. Palestinian citizens of Israel who were internally displaced in '48 but still became Israeli citizens not only cannot reclaim their land, they cannot even buy it back!
Non-Jewish Israelis are not allowed into certain departments in the Israeli universities.
I would not be surprised.
@@Kuppasy
Prey elaborate.
bullshit. you have protests signifying the Nakba in Israeli universities in the name of freedom of speech, plus Arab students posting the faces of so called Shaheeds, and they enjoy protection from security while doing it. bizarre as it may sound
Can you back that claim with proof, or are you just blowing hot air out of your a$$ in an attempt to defame Israel?
@@thekandarichronicles
The fact that you do not find that hard to believe, just comes to show how biased you are against Israel.
In 2006, the Israeli Supreme court ruled the classification of NPAs unconstitutional. The government ignored this ruling for four years. In 2010 Adalah filed a motion of contempt of court against the PM. In 2011 the court dismissed the motion, because the government did no longer use the prohibited classifications.
Well cited Captain.
Great présentation and analysis of the West démocratie in Israel.
You may have to look at the fate of the Falasha. (apparently called, the Beta Israel), the Ethiopia Jews, who were imported to Israel in their majority with big fanfare, all over the Western medias.
Most of these falasha were later sent back to Rwanda except the few that were useful to serve in the Israeli army. Most of the expelled falasha had to escape from Rwanda and return to Ethiopia.
UK was inspired by Israel Rwanda arrangement for its illegal immigration.
Take care
Thank you for the heads up on the potential content about the Falasha. Greatly appreciated.
Your videos are excellent. Not sanctimonious or overly emotional or biased. Just pure facts on the situation over there. I think this is the best kind of activism for the Palestinian movement.
Excellent explanation. Thank you. 👍🙏
Thank you Tanya so much for your support.
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It’s not the same,,, but my mother was born a refugee in Finland during the WWII. Her family were treated like second class citizens by a neighbouring invading country. The best defence they had was their “SISU”. Sadly the fight has not ended as Finish lands are still occupied today. Not being able to be a free citizen in your own country is not democracy it’s fear. (So she moved to sunny and friendly Australia 🇦🇺🥶❄ when it’s not winter)
That's a sad story. Leaving one's own home because of an invasive suppressor. Shame on humanity. To have things like this happen over and over again. Thank you so much for sharing @NGC.
Surely the aborigens have some stories to tell too 😢😢😢😢😢
@@NGC-catseye What are you talking about?!?
So she move from one occupied country to another, just with better weather?
@@daves465 How is Finland an occupied country? 😀
They are not just discriminate against arabs, or muslims, Jews of Somali background, Iraqi or any arab region, they get the Israeli treatment sure, but they are regarded as less and have to do way more "educational" chores than others, and usually don't get houses in prime regions. David Sheen, formerly of Ha'aretz reported on that
Thank you for sharing that insight. Adds to the case of a selective democratic system.
One of the best channels for these type of topics from the river to the sea
Wow lets give this guy a round of applause.. He noticed something thats all over the world, in every country.. give this man a clap
Thank you for your applause and appreciation.
The Red Crescent symbol is called Hallel هلال in Arabic. The same Hebrew word is Hallel הלל in Hallelujah. Hallel means praise or shine both in Arabic and Hebrew. Israel bombed hospitals and ambulances with Red Crescent Hallel signs on them.
You are right about hallel which means praise in Arabic but crescent in Arabic is hellal not hallel.
Thank you. I didn't know that.
@@LWeil-pu2wj
It is the same root هلال.
@@SalmaShalom Yes but the vowels change the meaning. هلل and هلال both come from the root هل. I could derive multiple words from the root هل.
@@LWeil-pu2wj
Yes, you are correct. I do not speak Arabic or Hebrew.
Thank you for this brilliant and humane video. Sending you love and peace from a Palestinian 🇵🇸❤️
Facts , yet grossly ignored.
Facts apparently dont matter when they prove the contrary.
DEMOCRACY-THE WORST OF RELIGION-LARRY ROMANOFF
9:23
That is NOT why most Haredi Jews does not enliste. That is because political totalitarian Haredi politicians who lobbied the Israeli governments for decades. Nothing to do with faith - that is only an excuse.
4:41 I truly think faith is just one superficial component of it, in fact the "founding fathers" of the country were much less focused on religion, very secular and even atheists, but completely consumed by the idea of col,on. ization and "civilizing the uncivilized". Now the state will gladly allow people of different faith to be in the same superior criterion, maybe with exceptions in marital and citizenship affairs, but you get the idea. It's first you must believe in a zino, ism, then jud, a. ism.
Well one serves the other and at the very beginning it was Judaism that served the Zionists.
7:25
That is way more complicated than that. In Israel there are 4 separate education systems. And everyone can apply to each one. What's for sure is that none of them "denies" any of that.
Yes, child, grand child of a Jew or a spouse of a Jew, only if they remain faithful to Judaism or convert to Judaism. Every non-Jewish descendants with Jewish ancestry were forced to convert to Judaism for Aaliyah! Bani-menaseh tribe of india were Christians before aaliyah. All of them were converted to Judaism as a precondition for aaliyah.
So, Israel do not consider right to citizenship through ancestry as absolute
I dont think ancestry even computes because on that basis not many would be of ancient local Jewish ancestry.
@@thekandarichronicles of course I know that. There are some Zionist attorneys run channels advising on how to apply for aaliyah. One advice I saw was that to get ancestry record from death certificate of their ancestors from a Jewish cemetery or from rabbi. The bottom line is one who wish to perform aaliyah should identify themselves as a Jew by religion. If the person professes any other religion, they are disqualified. Would recommend read about Bneh-menesah and how they migrated. Also, in internet you can find many references to one Palestinian-Lebanese woman who was born and brought up in Dubai was able to establish his Jewish ancestry to Spain and acquired Spanish citizenship. She can’t do the same in Israel because she has to give up her current religion to qualify for aaliyah
Amazing video. We should keep exposing the terrorist state of Israel
Agreed. Exposing the truth is the mission.
@@thekandarichronicles Truth is, your sitting on stolen land, taken by an actual genocide, the American Indian wars were still happening in the 1920's, they were still murdering uppity Indians in the 1930's.
And you lecture Israelis...go back 'home'.
Always been an Aparthied state and a class state based on european culture immigration..
Thank you for exposing the despicable practices of the so-called democracy of Israel
Just of few, there are many more that to discover. Check out Adalah!
Great presentation! You're an amazing human
Thank you for educating us on how manipulative, corrupt and racist these immoral people are.
The tide has turned and the world is waking up .
Thank you Brooke. I appreciate your insight and your wonderful words of support!
Jahwism if not Judaism, has created a God in its own - ethnonationalist - image; a God who arbitrarily chooses the 'nation/race/people' (?) over all others. There are multiple instances of the same all too human proclivity of its God to favour one, albeit individual or individuals, over the other: for example Abraham over his brother (nephew?, the biblical text is inconsistent) Lot; Moses over Aaron; Jacob over Esau; Joseph over his brothers.
Not only has this never been sufficiently critiqued in the Christian theological tradition; some have indeed sought to integrate it and have made it central to their confessional identity, Calvinism for example, which similarly teaches the arbitrary election, both to damnation and hence to salvation in the act of double predestinarianism, again by the Deity - only this time, a putatively new Deity. Thus a single group is elevated as particular, or indeed exceptional, but not by means of birthright, rather through consent to doctrinal strictures. It is arguable that Calvinism is an even more pernicious manifestation of the same psychological pathology, since it proposes that one can act with utmost impunity, for example, even murder, and nonetheless, still be saved, because works have no bearing on the ultimate destiny of the individual. One's actions, whether for good or for evil, do not matter. This emphasises to the point of the absurd, the arbitrary and capricious nature of its 'Judaeo-Christian' God. Double predestination flies in the face of one major theological consequence of the doctrine of incarnation, which presupposes that love - in this case the love of God - depends on equality. One cannot love any being who is either superodinate or subordinate, superior or inferior.
Equality, like freedom, is a defining condition of love, as the event of incarnation celebrated in the Carmen Christi makes abundantly clear - ' ... who, though he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped, but emptied himself by taking on the form of a slave, by looking like other men, and by sharing in human nature.' (Philippians 2.6,7, NET 2).
The cryptotheocratic justification of Jewish-Israeli superiority is patently used to justify ethnic cleansing in the eyes of a similarly morally bankrupt nation state such as the USA. Both nation-states have betrayed their own religious foundations which in large measure, is the result of the comparable exceptionalist strains in their belief systems. How then can any individual or 'individual' state believing in its own exceptional status to have been given by an omnipotent God, function as a good global citizen? And moreover indeed, how can it love its neighbour as itself, if that neighbour is less than its equal? It cannot.
'To tell men that they are equal has a certain sentimental appeal. But this appeal is small compared with that made by a propaganda that tells them they are superior to others, and that others are inferior to them.' - Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies, Vol. I
Doesn’t other Arab states, especially the Gulf states who subscribe to Sharia Law (like your native Kuwait) treat its non-native citizens (more often than not non-Arab and/or non-Muslim) exactly if not worse, than how you just outlined in the video?
Case in point being the Bedoon in Kuwait for example!
The Bedoon is a travesty. There is nothing to deny there. But I don't see the comparison, Israel is claiming to be a high and mighty democracy, the only one in the region. Remove the label and whatever comes with it in terms of high ground, then one can remove the accountability.
@@thekandarichronicles so the issue doesn’t lie with the how the non-Jewish population within Israel are treated but rather the fact that Israel calls itself a Democracy?
Thank you for this detailed and objective documentairy
How love works. Here at home.
I studied and all religions are foreign. I see that and know that. Love to Palestine Iraq Iran Lebanon Syria West Bank-Israel.
I do not promote the chosen one's.
To me.
A myth.
Agreed that the chosen notion is a myth.
Excellent video... hits the bull's eye 🎯
Thank You Brother! Your voices are so important to us! The Truth and history will never be hidden! Cities like Jaffa, Gaza, Haifa, Nablus, Nazareth, Eilat, Jericho, Bethlehem, Al Quds and all cities in Xionist Occupied Palestine is Palestine! Thank You Brothers and Sisters! And Thank All Of You with Our Cause! We will never forget who was with us! Free Palestine! Salaam Alaikum 🇵🇸❤️
The truth shall set all of us free.
5:15
Most democratic nation-states has that kind of laws. It is obviously way easier for ethnic Germans to gain German citizenship for instance. Like in Estonia, Greece, Poland, Spain, Italy, Ireland...
Very well researched! Beyond the written laws, there are much ways of discrimination that are not listed against Arabs in Occupied Palestine/Israel.
Israel is a place where the people are European, the land is Palestinian, and the tax base is American.
I’m Israeli. My grandparents came from Poland, Libya, Morocco, and Yemen. Don’t tell me we’re European. 72% of the Israeli population is considered North African or Middle Eastern according to 2021 statistics. Most of the people I know are a mix of those I am and Iraqi, Syrian, Kurdi, Turkish, Tunisian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Czech, Baltic and Russian. We have a large Ethiopian community; there are some (albeit very little) Lebanese and Egyptian Jews in Israel. Perhaps most dominant is Persian. To call Israel a European project is absurd for historical and rhetorical reasons I am sure we can have a fruitful conversation about, but to call the people European is absolutely out-of-proportion lying.
So is the entirety of the PLO and Hamas economy. Why don't you mention that? Unlike Israel, Israel does make its own money and even buys weapons from the US they spend a lot of money, and the land isn't even native to anyone, nor is it Palestinian the people who first settled there go way back even before Egypt was even a thing not to mention that they were probably killed by the Cannanites
When westerners use the word 'democracy' what they really mean is 'prnocracy' whether they are referring to themselves or in this case an ally
Very well presented.
It is your typical double standard in every aspect of life.
Educational
Political
Civic
The hypocrasy for EVERYONE to see...
Very well done....everyone else has worded appreciations better I'm just adding a comment to support the suggestions algorithim
That is very generous. Greatly appreciated.
The victim of genocide are now the perpetrator of genocide _ Amb Chas Freeman
The prisoner becomes the jailor. No difference.
Free palestine.
Yes indeed and soon.
Oh gosh what do I tell the head of my company's research and development department, who is an Arab Christian? Or what do I tell one of our female, Arab Muslim lab workers, who received a scholarship from one of our medical center schools to study further? What do I tell the Druze I am working with? Or the Arab students studying with Israeli children in the University, who will work in the lab in our company alongside Israeli Jewish students to build their resume? What do I tell one of my Arab, Muslim doctors? They don't know there's inequality. I must inform them.
They know. Just ask them if they can naturalise a relative as a citizen of Israel.
@@thekandarichronicles Their relatives are citizens of Israel. They know they get paid more than I do, and that their children don't have to serve in the army like mine do. They know that all the street signs are in Arabic, Hebrew and English. They know they are building brand new homes after marriage while most Israeli couples and young families can only afford to live in small apartments. They know they can vote and serve in the government. They know, unfortunately, that despite Israel's very strict gun laws for civilians, that somehow their villages and towns are flooded with guns. Before October 7 the Arab population was complaining that the government had not stopped the Arabs in their villages and towns from murdering 230 of their own people, children, women, older people. Until October 7 we all thought this was a major issue.
Can Jews naturalize their relatives in Arab and Muslim countries? Oh, sorry, I forget, they have no Jews there anymore.
@@suereed3474 Be careful about confusing these people with facts. They don't understand what they are.
2:36
From the opening sentence of the subject that is wrong. About ~75% are Jews, the rest are Arab speakers which includes Muslims, Christians, Druze, Bedouin, Circassians... out of whom about ~60% are identified as Palestinians. Most Druze and Circassians does not self-identified as Arabs.
Ayatollah is also Biblical Hebrew. It means sign from G-d. Ayatollah in Christianity is used in Isaiah 7:11 for the Birth of Christ. So Christmas links with the word Ayatollah.
Could you publish videos on the democratic muslim countries?
Todavía existe mucha ignorancia del concepto ser judío. Donde nacio el judaismo real biblico en tierras de arabia de sangre semita quienes son semitas.(los arabes) desde 3000mil años el que ocupa israel desde 1948 apenas 300 años nacidos en Europa son conversos no tienen genetica judia tampoco son semitas aunque ellos creen serios por profesar judaismo no biblico
Verdade!!!!
This was really good.
Thank you so much, glad it resonated.
Thx so much gor your videos. They are so kbjective and full of all the necessary details and facts. They should be used in classrooms everywhere - ESPECIALLY in america and israel!
Thank you for your work
Remember guys, Tareq is *NOT* suicidal
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Antisioniste is not antisemitic
Agreed fully, so so different from each other.
But isn't Zi*nism antisemetic?
But sioniste is antisematic
Israel today is as democratic as Apartheid South Africa 50 years ago
Seems so. All the indicators are the same.
Great vid. Commenting for the algorithm
Hello new here,
1. 4:35 The main unifying factor for Israel majority is not the Jewish faith at all, but 2 other things: a) Jewish culture. b) the right for Jews for self-determination (specifically within the borders of British mandate in 47') according to INES and even according to the most anti-zionist historians.
2. 5:16 The law of return is unjust only if you ignore the Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslims countries and context. because on the surface it does look like the Israel embraced the right of return only for Jews, but in order to make it a universal law, the Muslims and Arab countries that made the expulsion of the Jews needs to also give back the right for the Jews to return and take back their homes and businesses. this is unrealistic and impractical, the kind of solution that not looking in the eyes of the reality.
At the same time of the Jewish exodus in the Middle east, Asian & Africa, the law of return actually gave a global solution to a refugee problem.
The context itself is how jews were chased and treated like second class citizens at best, and worse were murdered and ethnically cleansed throughout the history of any Muslim or Arab Or any other state/country/nation/empire that they had presence there. The law of return made sure that any future other jewish pogroms or atrocities will be immediately met by a state that will be happy to take them out of there and give a new peaceful home.
3. 6:34 I think its good to talk about the numbers, but we cannot stop there, the question we should be asking is why the differences if law treat people the same? and when you dig into that (many Israeli academics did, there is a vast literature surrounding the topic) you can see that the answer is not that simple, and it is not clear to what extent they fall under israeli institutions ill and discriminatory treatment towards the Arab population or to what extent they fall under human agency and choice. for example, Arab villages like Taibe and Tira didn't care to cooperate themself into Israeli work force (like Israeli hospitals, police and other public institutions) so they had a larger market to appeal to.
One more thing is, ironically according to the INES 81% of the IB denomination of the Hasidic jews are also at poverty line or below it, does it means that Israel is mistreated or discriminated them? No, because there is clear evidence that is a lifestyle choice.
4. 7:20 I agree that Israel unproportionally allocates more money towards Jewish communities then Arabs (and i do hope it will be fixed)
5. 7:30 History is not distorted in the educational system of Israel (2024), but you do right that some of it is just cherry picking. And yet, First, you absolutely wrong that the educational system teaches that there is no Palestinian identity, or it had never existed. Second, Israel education is not coherent towards different societies, every society have a different approach and teachings (like secular jews, religous jews, Arabs and so on).
6. 7:50 Wrong. Israel has a free society, Palestinians like any others can recall their memories, or speaking out injustices or atrocities as long as they are not denying the right for the Jewish state to exist.
7. 9:55 I can see why you made the long jump into "there is no trust", but in actuality there is Palestinians in the IDF, they just need to say they want to do service. in other words, the IDF is welcoming any Israeli that is *willing* to do a service like most of the population.
This is also the reason why Arabs gave the exemption from army service back in the day, Israel did not want to physically force them to do it, and they weren't willing to do it.
8. Amendment to basic law also limited of the numbers of Jewish parties (espacially extreame ones) to attend, so it worked on both ways. In reality it strengthen the Palestinian presence in the Kneset because it forced them to unit and take unprecedented number of seats since Israel born.
I hope you will find it useful,
The most important thing for me is when you talk about how good or bad a state
ation is (any of them, including israel), if you want to make a responsible analysis you need to put them into comparative politics, and look how other democratic nations or middle-eastern countries deal with minorities and how different the case study is dealing with them. One thing for sure is no country is perfect and you can find atrocities happening even in the healthiest and most Democratics ones, but historical context and comparative politics is what make the judgement of good or bad justified.
@tareqkandari7277 You can try and debate it, ignoring healthy discussion will not make you more educated on the topic.
2. They were not expelled. That is a myth. In fact, laws were written, making it explicitly illegal to go to Israel. Which means they committed treason by going anyway
6. It is illegal to memorialize the Nakba
@@cyberninjazero5659 Hello brother, i was sure all the audience here and the content creator were just about the hate and not about the debate.
I'm happy that there is at least one person here who willing to debate and not just shout hatred.
2. my family from my mother side got expelled from egypt by kairo police officers, i got many friends that their families got expelled from lubnan, marroco, tuniesse, syria, afghanistan, jordan/west bank, gaza, iraq. You don't even need to take my words for it, you can read about it yourself, just google the jewish exodus and there is plenty of academic information and all you need. It is true that some of them just go expelled by force and pogroms and not officially expelled by the goverment, but that even worse.
6. wrong, you can memorialize the nakba, as long as you do not condemn Israel right to exist. if you referring to the nakba law, the law says that a minister can reduce the amount of money the government give to an organization that support the demise of Israel right to exist.
@@cyberninjazero5659 Hello brother, i was sure all the audience here and the content creator were just about the hate and not about the debate.
I'm happy that there is at least one person here who willing to debate and not just shout hatred.
2. my family from my mother side got expelled from egypt by kairo police officers, i got many friends that their families got expelled from lubnan, marroco, tuniesse, syria, afghanistan, jordan/west bank, gaza, iraq. You don't even need to take my words for it, you can read about it yourself, just google the jewish exodus and there is plenty of academic information and all you need. It is true that some of them just go expelled by force and pogroms and not officially expelled by the goverment, but that even worse.
6. wrong, you can memorialize the nakba, as long as you do not condemn Israel right to exist. if you referring to the nakba law, the law says that a minister can reduce the amount of
@@cyberninjazero5659 Hello brother, i was sure all the audience here and the content creator were just about the hate and not about the debate.
I'm happy that there is at least one person here who willing to debate and not just shout hatred.
2. my family from my mother side got expelled from egypt by kairo police officers, i got many friends that their families got expelled from lubnan, marroco, tuniesse, syria, afghanistan, jordan/west bank, gaza, iraq. You don't even need to take my words for it, you can read about it yourself, just google the jewish exodus and there is plenty of academic information and all you need. It is true that some of them just go expelled by force and pogroms and not officially expelled by the goverment, but that even worse.
6. wrong, you can memorialize the nakba, as long as you do not condemn Israel right to exist. if you referring to the nakba law, the law says that a minister can reduce the amount of
Israel is not a democracy israelis muslims doens t same right and palestinians have no right to leave
Correct 100%. Such a point is one of many that differentiates between citizens of the nation.
Jews dont have the same rights in muslim countries either
No they dont. You know why? Because no other nation is a democracy as Israel claims for itself. Dont forget "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East!"
@@thekandarichronicles in a democracy everybody have same right.Israel is aa apartheid state and stole lands in palestine
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Bible says Israel will always have a King. King are from the tribe of Judah.
1 Kings 9:5
I will establish your royal throne over Israel forever, as I promised David your father when I said, ‘You shall never fail to have a successor on the throne of Israel.’
Another great breakdown!
Thank you so much. Always love seeing you in the comments section with that great encouragement.
Excellent video.
Thanks.
My pleasure and thank you for the support.
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The British Also Rounded Up Italians during WW2 and keep them Away from their families.
Understood Christine but Italy was an enemy back then, and this wasn't British citizens being imprisoned in the UK due to their ethnic background.
If the ethnicity of Isreal is so diverse, (American/european converted Jews) then why even have the argument of “Jewish historical/biblical homeland? Most Palestinians have FAR more biblical historical genetic data that aligns closest to the original Jewish tribe over the American and European converts…. The tribes of Isreal never really left… they are the Palestinians who have since stayed Jewish, and converted to Christianity or Islam….. most of the CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS in the area are the true Jewish people….. according to their DNA and history. And in the end, SO WHAT! We had peace for thousands of years until European/American colonialism…
Shakespeare portrays Shylock.
Charles Dickens shows Fagin .
They were able to perceive the traits of those characters.
May I introduce you to the indigenous people of North America, many of whom are still living in isolation separated from the rest of the population and denied basic necessities.
Arabs in Israel are not referred to as Israeli Arabs the way that Jews in Israel are referred to as Israeli Jews. They are referred to as Arab Israelis, in other words, as people who could relocate to Arab countries if they wanted to.
Key words..."if they want to". More likely to be "if they are forced to".
@tareqkandari7277 that was my point. From the point of view of Israeli Jews, Israeli Arabs won't leave,not because the land had been in their families' hands for generations, but because they hate Jews and want to destroy Israel.
No, they are actually called the same way. They are called " Israeli Arabs" Just like " Israeli Jews".
. "Salem" and "Muslim" are very similar words. "Muslim" = Mu + "Salem". Salem is adjective and Muslim is noun derived from Salem. In Greek "Teleios" (Perfect) in New Testament "Teleios" is a Perfect Christian and in old Testament a "Meshullam/Muslim" is a Perfect Jew.
Our Heavenly Father created many potters of the clays and each with a unique language, culture and land.
Israel is an “ethnocracy”, or rather a simple nation-state. Nation literally comes from the Latin word for “birth”. All nationalism is ethnic based; phrases like credal nationalism or civic nationalism are oxymorons.
I’m not sure why the good old “blood and soil” model is seen as inherently evil. These United States were nation-states according to founding father, John Jay who stated that we are one people, with one common ancestry, speaking one language, and practicing one faith, connected to the land. He is quite literally saying we are a blood and soil nation in Federalist Paper No. 2.
The evil of Israel is their racial supremacy, and rank hypocrisy in demanding everyone else have diversity while they have a right to self-determination as a people.
@tareqkandari7277
Ayatollah, Abdullah, Baitullah, Bismillah are Arabic but also Biblical Hebrew words. Arabic and Biblical Hebrew are very similar languages. . These words are listed in Brown Drivers and Briggs Hebrew Biblical Lexicon.
Great video and interesting to see the details of the Israeli apartheid
Let's discuss the rest of the Middle East...Now, that would be a fun video!
It’s not about the Jewish faith but about its culture and identity. Most peopl living in Israel are secular.
The ultra orthodox are even poorer than the Arab population, it’s not about discrimination but about way of life. While Jews serve 3 years in the army their Arab fellows can study and work and develop their skills and careers. Also they enjoy affirmative action programs that allow them easier access to high education and other educational opportunities.
Please read more about Israeli culture before speaking about it.
@@Wehcdh you're acting like the Jews who serve in the military don't receive affirmative action for their service, or that the non-jews are at all equal in their opportunities in Israel.
Are we seriously trying to rationalise the inequality by listing the "buts"? Simple question, are Arab citizens equal in opportunity and status?
Where to even start with this whirlwind of selective truth and convenient omissions? Your assertion that it's all about culture and identity, not discrimination, is quite the head-scratcher.
Firstly, claiming the issue isn't about the Jewish faith but rather culture is like saying a cake isn't about the flour but about the icing. The foundation of Israel's identity as a "Jewish state" is deeply intertwined with its policies and societal structure. Secular or not, the preferential treatment of Jewish citizens is entrenched in Israeli law. Let's not pretend otherwise.
Now, onto your point about the ultra-Orthodox being poorer than the Arab population. It's true, the ultra-Orthodox face economic challenges, but their situation is often by choice, linked to their lifestyle and refusal to participate in the workforce. Contrast this with the systemic barriers faced by Arabs in Israel. It's not the same kettle of fish.
Your argument about military service is particularly rich as well. Yes, Jewish Israelis serve in the army, but let's not gloss over the fact that Arab citizens are effectively excluded from this "duty," leading to a lifetime of economic and social disadvantages. This exclusion isn't a benevolent gift of free time to Arabs; it's a calculated move to keep them on the margins.
Oh, and affirmative action programmes? Nice try. While there are some initiatives, their impact is negligible compared to the widespread discrimination Arabs face in education, employment, and housing. Arab schools are underfunded, and Arab workers often find themselves shut out of many sectors.
And don't get me started on the Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People, which outright states that only Jews have the right to national self-determination in Israel. How democratic and equal is that?
So, before you tell others to "read more about Israeli culture," perhaps you should take a deeper dive into the laws and policies that perpetuate inequality and systemic discrimination. Because from where I'm standing, your argument is less about truth and more about a rosy fairy tale that just doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
@@JP-fb8niwell said and true!!!!
@@JP-fb8ni Arab citizens can join the army if they want to and if not they always have the option of civil service (like my service) of two years or even one. It varies from hospitals to firefighters or any other public service (health, infrastructure and cetera)
Somehow the vast majority choose not to serve two years in this kind of service.
Jewish state is mainly related to Selfie determination and the legal right to be granted with citizenship if you are a Jew, this is also due to Millennium of persecution and bloodshed of Jews in Europe and other places.
Israel is far from being perfect and has a lot to improve but is definitely not discriminating it’s Arab citizens although they do suffer from some injustices and inequality in some parts of their lives.
free ps
Yes indeed!
Why did you marginalize the Indigenous people of America ? Yes the Japanese and Black Americans paid the price for so called democracy but Palestinians are suffering an injustice that compares to the horrid colonization of Native Americans.
Not the intention to marginalise anyone. One cant put all those suffering injustice by America in one video. The Native Americans have made an appearance in another video that relflects the same injustices towards the Palestinian people.
Another superb much needed lesson Tareq! Third viewing. 😢
Brenda that is simply fantastic. Got probably the most pushback from those in denial this time around. But what to do? Got to say what needs to be said. Appreciate you as always! 🙏🏽
@@thekandarichronicles That pushback may be that you are now reaching a larger diverse audience? 🙏✌️
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Mileikowsky changed is name to from Mileikowsky to Benjamin Netanyahu . He may not know that Benjamin is also an Arabic name. Ben+jamin =Bin +Yemen (Benjamin means Son of Yemen).
Yeah they might get a Few better Scrap's than the one's in Gaza but they know their place so i wouldn't call that having it good
Knowing their place just reflects the illusion of democracy.
That's wrong. There are plenty of Arabs in Israel who support Israel and its actions against adversaries. Arabs, as long as they own Israeli citizenship, are given equal rights. They can vote, be elected to respected roles, study in schools and universities etc...
The Palestinians living in the West Bank don't own citizenship. Therefore, they aren't allowed rights given by Israel to its citizens.
Now, of course an "occupier" must give citizenship to "occupied" people, but the reason why the West Bank was conquered was because Jordan lost a war with Israel in 1967, and the West Bank was under Jordanian rule. Next time, don't start wars with Israel or else you'll lose more.
Israel will gladly leave the West Bank and give it to the Palestinians, as well as recognize a Palestinian state. All Israel wants in return is for the Palestinians to stop all hostility and live with Israel in peace (no more wars).
he isn't talking about the west bank, and he didn't meantion aparthide.
he simply sayed that having a jewish state is not democratic.
He is wrong ofcourse.
Ancient Israelites were genetically indistinguishable from Arabic people theyre all Canaanites. Modern Israeli are not related to ancient Israelites. They're claiming religion is their ethnicity.
Hi Danielle. Agreed fully with your insight. There is zero doubt as to the accuracy of your comment although most who inhabit Israel would like to disagree.
People keep saying "democracy". I don't think it means what they think it means. Democracy is the will of the majority. A republic may have laws, like the US Constitution that supersede the will of the majority but democracies may not have such laws, or they are not a true democracy. If the Majority of the people of Israel want to repress the minority then... Welcome to Democracy!
Israelis are mostly from Eastern Europe example: Benjamin Satanyahu origin is Polish.
Shalom and Salaam, Mileikowsky changed his name from Mileikowsky to Benjamin Netanyahu . He may not know that Benjamin is also an Arabic name. Ben+jamin =Bin +Yemen (Benjamin means Son of Yemen).
"Memory"? How can you remember something that wasn't livestreamed.
Arabic and Biblical Hebrew are very simialar languages. Intifada is also Biblical Hebrew word and Hebrew Eli = Ali. Ben+jamin =Bin +Yemen (Son of Yemen) . Muslim משלם and Islam ישלם are also Biblical Hebrew words.
Your video raises some interesting points, that i will hace to think about some more before I form an opinion.
However there some immediate things that come to mind:
1. For the most part, the Druze do not identify as Palestinian, but as druze Israelis.
2. The Circassians are another minority group who's men are not exempt from service. They originate from the Caucasus region, and are of Muslim faith.
3. Though Arab/Palestinian Israelis are exempt from mandatory service, they are allowed, and at times even encouraged, to volunteer.
Individuals who do get all the same benefits as regularly coscripted soldier plus more unique rights given only to volunteers.
4. The majority of the examples brought in the video are laws passed under the numerous governments of Benjamin Netanyahu. While I agree that some of them are of undemocratic in nature, I feel like Israel is the only country whose entire democratic essence will be questioned, while in other countries, people will criticize the specific leader or government who are responsible for those laws.
4. Israel has always been this way from its inception. The book "Jewish History - Jewish Religion" by Israel Shahak was published in 1994 and details not only why but specific laws that existed back when it was published
A stark difference between his population stats and my recollection that for years, Z's had been worried about the, "demographic timebomb", of the Palestinian birth population overtaking the Zi population due to a higher birth rate, except for the hardcore religious faction of Z Jews.
According to the figures producing that fear the Palestinian population would outnumber that of Jewish Israelis, within a couple of decades or so.
The last reports that I read on the issue, were from BT'Selem, (amongst others), around 7 or 8 years ago.
Immigration has to have got worse for Z's, since then, because the growth of Fascism, in Isrealhell, has made it less attractive for mainstream, moderate racist thugs.
@@johnsomebody1753 Wow, how wrong can you get?
@@jeffreywilheim5970Explain yourself please.
In what way "wrong" ?
@@johnsomebody1753 Start with the basic fact that Israel is not a fascist state.
@@jeffreywilheim5970 😄 Can you identify any difference between Authoritarianism for the purposes of State, Fascism, and Isrealhell then ?
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@@johnsomebody1753 Yeah, see, Israel has this thing called "democracy" and these things called "Basic Laws" that guarantee this thing called freedom of speech. That's how you can tell Israel isn't an authoritarian or fascist state.
In many democratic nation-states with mandatory conscription like Finland, spesific ethnic minorities (Sami people in that case), are exempt. There are thousands of Arabs in the IDF.
it happened to muslims after 911 as well when they started catching muslims for no reason and sent them to abu gharib jail and other guntamu jail
They they took are job's took are job's took are job's.
Not sure about the comment but ok. Thanks for sharing.
A half million dead Syrians will never get to hear how Israel is not a perfect country.
The Syrian crisis is truly despicable. But I am unsure as to how this point validates or justifies how a self proclaimed democracy so egregiously differentiates between its citizens due to religion. Fundamentally it is not a democratic principle. Is it to say those Syrians would be better off than in an authoritarian regime? Well of course, they would be alive, well most of them for sure, but they would still be second class citizens. Maybe even on an even lower scale. God rest their souls.
LOL... why not calling this video "The Whole World's Democratic Deception"?
you will have millions of views its only a matter of time
Thank you Stathis for your wonderful words of encouragement.
What you're describing, extremely well, is a flawed democracy. 1. Israel, with its fully proportional voting, gives disorientate power to those minorities who prop up a government: namely, ultra-orthodox Jews, who are themselves mostly extremely poor. But given that they have almost always been in government, especially for the last 30 years or so, they get funding. 2. The same is true, on the flip side, of the more general relatively low funding of Palestinian-Israeli communities, to which you rightly point. Those communities do not vote for the government, so received less. It is what the American, ironically for our case, call "pork barrel politics". This is a form of the dictatorship of the majority. Arguably then it is not a flaw in democracy, but a flaw of democracy.
As for the Law of Return, it does not apply to Israeli citizens, but to those who wish to become such. It shows anyone who would under the Nuremberg Laws have been defined as a Jew and so murdered in the Holocaust. The (Fatah/PLO) Palestinian leadership in Ramallah has repeatedly said that a future Palestinian state would not include Jews. That is it's right. Israel does not allow the return of Palestinians because that would lead to the ending of Israel as a state for the Jews through the ballot box.
You are right that "ethnocracy' is problematic for the reasons you state, but your definition of Jews as merely adherents to a religion is even more problematic: it's wrong. Most of my family neither adhere nor believe, but are still very much Jews.
I'm unsure as to your point in education. That instruction seems quite good to me. You ask, " whose version of culture and history?", but by leaving that open it allows different groups within our wider society to answer it differently and to educate their children as they wish, as long as they teach respect for the other groups. That seems good to me.
I completely agree with you on the matter of conscription, although being offended that Palestinian-Israelis are not conscripted into an army which, by virtue of the fact of the ongoing occupation in the West Bank - without examining here the reasons for its existence - necessarily means oppressing other Palestinians.
If there is a solution to the Hareidi issue of conscription, perhaps through other national service within their communities, I would hope and expect that the same would be extended to Palestinian-Israelis. But we should note that while Palestinian-Israelis lose out on the benefits of army service, they also gain, through more years of work or earlier study in university.
Importantly, you list the benefits of military service and say that the amount to, "a positive outcome which no Zionist would wish on Palestinian citizens". Now it is my turn to be offended: I am a Zionist and I would certainly wish these benefits on my Palestinian compatriots.
You talked about raising the threshold for parties entering the Knesset, which you said would, "cripple the Arab parties". You did not add that, while this was the integration of Avigdor Lieberman when he pushed the legislation through, that was not the result. In the event the Arab parties united into the "Joint List", led by the (wonderful) Ayman Odeh and did quite well in the subsequent elections.
It's interesting to think in what way Israel does treat its ethnic minority population worse than, say, France, Britain or the US. When you talk about 65 laws, perhaps that's your strongest point: discrimination here is far more explicit and consciously international than it is in those three examples (where it exists but is, in the main, more implicit and systematic).
Did anyone say that Britain was undemocratic in the 1970s? I don't think so, even though Catholic nationalists in Northern Ireland were being discriminated against.
The world over working-class people, often disproportionately from racial minorities , are discriminated against in myriad ways. In Israel that has also historically included Mizrahi Jews (who came here from North Africa and the Middle East). The legacy of that continues today. Much of what you rightly say about Palestinian-Israelis apples also to them and to Ethiopian-Israelis.
But both those issues and those which are indeed part of a discriminatory legacy of the conflictual origin of this country can, should and I believe will be corrected, sooner rather than later.
...This is Udi writing BTW,
and I should add that it's an extremely good video.
Hi Udi, really appreciate your diving into the discussion with a really well rounded commentary per point. I dont disagree with many of what you say. For me it's a matter of presentation. Is Israel presenting a false "democracy" or not? The contention that it is better than most if not all nations in the Middle East is a non starter. That is for sure. But a premise that equality is the defining principle is inaccurate and should be held in judgement. Does Israel have many more freedoms? For sure. Are Arab better off as Israeli citizen when compared to Arab nations, also for sure.
And the other point about democracy is its false marketing, that it is the only solution for everyone and allows moral and ethical high ground. That again is perception of superiority and when one uses that superiority they have to held accountable to it. Be it the UK, US or whomever.
Thanks again for your great sharing. Love it when we discuss things openly and with a wish to learn from each other.
What about Americans of Italian & German descent?
They're kosher as first class citizens.
@@thekandarichronicles History proves otherwise !
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Nobody ever said that there are some discriminations, especially by the current government. But literally ALL minorities in ALL countries are discriminated against. That is also why Israel has affirmative action laws for Arabs. Most Ultra-Ortodox Jews are even poorer. Does that mean they are discriminated?
@tareqkandari7277
Bible says Israel will always have a King. King are from the tribe of Judah.
1 Kings 9:5
I will establish your royal throne over Israel forever, as I promised David your father when I said, ‘You shall never fail to have a successor on the throne of Israel.’
Yes and hence today it's still being run like a kingdom. Not so much the democracy.
@@thekandarichronicles
Modern Israel is fake Israel. It has noting to do with the Biblical Israel. According to Christianity Christ is the King of Israel. Israel has Kings from King David. It is only going to be rule by the descendant of King David (pbuh). Arabs are not Kings but in Jewish religion there are Kings.
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One of the very obvious sign the Modern Israel is fake is that they call themself a democracy. Tell me in the Bible where was Israel a democracy.?
when i went to japan on vaction 12 19 it was in the army i necver saw a single pizza with sausage on it . ive got no respect for the filth of our world ,
"Bbbbut CNN says otherwise "😂😂
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No... not "strategically"... SOME Bedouins were noamds, when they turned sedentary, they did that in the middle of the desert against the bureaucratic law. And to this day those are unrecognized settlements without some official services. Again, SOME. not 250k...
Mileikowsky changed his name to from Mileikowsky to Benjamin Netanyahu . He may not know that Benjamin is also an Arabic name. Ben+jamin =Bin +Yemen (Benjamin means Son of Yemen).
@@SalmaShalom
It is similar in Arabic because, obviously, those are two closely related languages, but this is in Hebrew.
Yemen/Yamin also means "right" (direction) and "south". That is because in the past East was the main direction, and Yemen, to the South is to the right of the East.
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Yes.
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Ayatollah, Abdullah, Baitullah, Bismillah are Arabic but also Biblical Hebrew words. Arabic and Biblical Hebrew are very similar languages. . These words are listed in Brown Drivers and Briggs Hebrew Biblical Lexicon.
@@SalmaShalom
Biblical Hebrew and modern Hebrew are the exact same language. I can speak better Hebrew from before 4,000 years, rather than an English person speaking 17th century English.