Nearly 60 years after this episode aired, far too many still miss the fact that testing of the human Kirk continued even after the Metron had put him at ease. If you look closely, you can see the wry smile on Carolyne Barry's face as the Metron makes the test offer. You can see the praise continue when Kirk declines that offer in favor of dialogue. Do you think it possible that a superior ETI watches UA-cam comments in amusement as the episode effectively identifies the goats from the sheep of Ben Matthew 25:31-46?
@@phillytvdirector In a Mirror Darkly....broadcast April 2005. Can you confirm that the title is a reference to the author behind Apostle Paul cleverly referencing Plato's Allegory of the Cave?
@@TomOwensUAP seriously? How can I confirm that when I am not the author of The episode? Or the author of any specific book in the holy Bible? Why would you ask such a question? I am not a theologian.
@@phillytvdirector well we can break the problem into pieces. After doing just a little research with the keywords I provide... can you confirm that Plato is the earliest on record to use the phrase "through a glass darkly" in his Allegory of Cave narrative of his work The Republic written c. 375 BCE? You don't have to play if you don't wish to. I just work the opportunity for those who are curious about the purpose behind the naming.
Everybody mentions the Mercy Kirk shows to the monster. But no one points that he also respect the défensive nature of the attack. So , Kirk respects the Idea of letting others lives their life in peace and not imposing an alien presence in a Land where one doesn't belong.
Great comment, I think Trelane's behavior as compared with the de Lancie Q is what leads them to that... but the two parental units were more like this Metron, yes. Thank you for checking in, hope you have a good weekend.
QumranEssene writes: "Yes! Remember Spock's hand gesture for live long and prosper is clearly Hebrew." That's right! 🖖 Based on the Blessing of the Kohanim. This is openly acknowledged by Leonard Nimoy. Good contribution, thank you for checking in.
@UCp-a0zdRl7Dek_mH7Dw8lGg funny thing is I don't remember them. Are they the guys from the Menagerie? The guys with the bald heads who didn't speak but used telepathy only?
@@LucysPop, that's right! The Talosians were the ones from The Cage and The Menagerie who could make humans see whatever they wanted them to see and who communicated via Telepathy. These characters appear to be taken from various UFO encounter reports around the world at that time and just prior.
@@LucysPop, I was wondering if you had adopted a conflict-oriented "fisticuffs" style comparison of Star Trek's portrayal of our Galactic elder brethren as a way of deliberately showing that humanity is not yet ready for Disclosure?
En-men-dur-ana, held significance among the Pre-Sumerians as he was the ancestor from whom all priests of the Sun God had to be able to trace descent. A Semitic language narrative tells of Emmeduranki, subsequently being taken to heaven by the gods Shamash (Utu) and Adad, and taught the secrets of heaven and of earth. En-men-dur-ana is associated with the city Sippar noted for worship of the sun. Enmendurana appears 7th on the Sumerian Kings List. For all these reasons, the Biblical patriarch Enoch appears to be based on the far earlier Sumerian Enmenduranki. Enoch is also 7th from Adama and his lifespan is said to have been 365 years which is the number of days for EArth to make one complete revolution around its star.
He is a Arch Angel!!! and a Priest of The Melchizedek Order!!! and he is obedient to the 1,000,000 by-laws of The Melchizedek Order!!! Source be Praised. Make glad the heart of a child!!! Amen!!!
@@kellyb.mcdonald1863 if you do a little reading and swimming through the reed sea, you will find the conceptual origins for the dual Priest-King of Melchizedek in the Sumerian personage of Gudea. Under the guidance of Yosef ben Matityahu (Joseph Barmathea) The New Testament makes numerous intertextual references to the ancient Sumerian literature as a way of confirming the origins of Shepherd Kings and Priest Kings.
I don't think Metron is all that civilized if he set up a fight with a man and a Gorn---a lizard thing who happens to be 10 times stronger! A totally unfair match.
The humans are faster, and apparently a bit smarter. Setting up involuntary fights between any two specifies... to include those evenly matched... ~would~ still seem uncivilized. However, the Gorn and Kirk were already locked in a fight.
Funny how they claim humans are half savage, yet they're the ones who dump two intelligent beings on a planet to fight to the death. Who's the real savage?
I absolutely encourage this kind of thinking about hypocrisy. However, if you recall from the TOS episode "Arena" the two species were already locked in mortal combat from the events on Cestus III and with a chase into Metron space. In any hour long television or short story adaptation you are likely to find contrivances and plot holes in order to package a set of primary ideas and symbols that the writers, directors and producers want delivered. The ultimate take-away for the episode, beyond how to make gunpowder, is the prompt to study the ancient Enoch literature and track it back to the narratives of Emmeduranki of Sippar.
We are the metrons. As you saw your captain was defeated.The captain of the Earth ship chose to spare your captain and your ship. We believe there is no hope for your kind but we respect the Earth Captain's wishes. From this day forward you must have a saying amongst your people. Never bring a primitive stone knife to a bamboo Cannon fight.
As the Metron said. We are still half savage. Just look at today's political climate. Liberal vs Conservative. Country against Country. We let greed & pride rule our lives. We do have the power to turn that around if we just exercise it.
Victor, this is a good, instructional comment that should prompt a few viewers to learn that the actual diameter of the Milky Way Galaxy is ~90,000 ly or 27,607 pc.
Yep. One thing sci fi messes up on so often is distances. In Star Trek: The Motion Picture before they edited the original for more cgi fixes etc, I got a kick out of the Epsilon 9 crewman’s claim that the V’Ger cloud was “over 82 A.U.’s in diameter”. OMG that’s just so ridiculous (by comparison, Pluto’s orbit is about 79 A.U.’s in diameter.)
@@eliasshaikh2065 my recollection is that Branch on Epsilon IX claimed the cloud was just over 2 A.U.'s in diameter which has a hidden meaning. I will try to confirm that and get back with you here, but if you have an article with supporting information, can you describe it or include the link? The comment will not be released right away, I will have to approve it.... but I will be on the lookout for it. Thank you for checking in with this comment as I expect I will prove instructional.
Nearly 60 years after this episode aired, far too many still miss the fact that testing of the human Kirk continued even after the Metron had put him at ease. If you look closely, you can see the wry smile on Carolyne Barry's face as the Metron makes the test offer. You can see the praise continue when Kirk declines that offer in favor of dialogue. Do you think it possible that a superior ETI watches UA-cam comments in amusement as the episode effectively identifies the goats from the sheep of Ben Matthew 25:31-46?
Chuckle, your comment is timely because I have a directly related video currently in the works. I've not previously heard Perrin and Barry's Metron referred to as "Larry" before... so I'm guessing you are going with the gender neutral slang pejorative for "moron" but that doesn't really fit the character's intelligence or abilities. Vic Perrin did provide the "Control Voice" in the original version of the TV series The Outer Limits... and the upcoming video will cover that and more... so I will tag you on it here. I have noticed that many, but not all, humans can have strong negative reactions to being shown any reference or evidence that humans are comparatively ignorant or barbaric and that they often miss the use of symbolism to quickly communicate concerns in a self contained 42 minute television play. This will amuse some... because such reactions do seem to confirm the accusation and provides rationale for those researchers (Pugh, Vallee et. al.) who have concluded that humans are puppeteered by an unseen hand. ;) Thank you for checking in.
This is kind of an unusual storyline for Trek. It's really more in line with something you see on Space:1999, the concept of humans being too primitive and too savage to be allowed to exist in the universe. Wonder Woman walso went into this type of realm, with the excellent two part "Judgement from Outer space".
Great comment and in support of your finding.... this channel recognizes Wonder Woman's Judgement from Outer Space as a respectful nod to The Day The Earth Stood Still and a hint at the IDH spaceship revealed by Daniel Sheehan. It takes two videos with overlapping content to demonstrate this: Sheehan's Dimension Ship and Vatican Rebuff ua-cam.com/video/lI8kyz7T5GU/v-deo.html Wonder Woman's Dimension Ship from Judgement from Outer Space ua-cam.com/video/rRIfq0_IN1M/v-deo.html Thank you for checking in.
In ST:Next Generation, John de Lancie's Q makes it clear that humans are still quite primitive. With ST:ENTERPRISE, T'Pol and other Vulcans suggest that humans, to include a ludicrously brash Captain Archer, are not yet ready to be blundering into first contact events. Still, in lieu of taking a info-empty shot at Brock... could it just maybe have been more productive for you to provide an example of another episode from ST:TOS where the humans are portrayed as relatively backward? Maybe a comment from the Talosians (The Menagerie or The Cage)... or from the Organians (Errand of Mercy).... from Gary Seven (Assignment Earth) stating that Earth is too primitive... but of course that was circa 1968... or perhaps one or two others I'm holding in reserve for you to mention in your next comment... if you like. ;)
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest: It blesseth him that gives and him that takes. -Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Actors scene for great opportunity to gain: The medical term for hearing sounds like ringing, buzzing, hissing, or clicking in one or both ears when there's no external source is tinnitus.
One of the characteristics of Trek Science Fiction is that some of the clues seeded in it have become more widely known as humans read the ancient literature. Some of it also became reality.
@@LucysPop, at 33:00 into TNG's Home Soil, Carolyne Barry appears as an unnamed blonde engineer aboard Enterprise with grade of ensign who advises Commander Riker that the computer system can no longer hold a containment force field or seal on a newly discovered crystalline lifeform in one of Enterprise's labs.
@CAptainReedo40, I would just point out that he demonstrates that he knows Sulu's name... and once again... a 42 minute self-contained tv episode is mostly about delivering a symbolic ángelma.
In a way... yes. In Hebrew apocrypha, Metatron is the name that Enoch received after his transformation to an angel. It is possible that the Q were created in the ST universe to be able to share ideas without the obvious links to Judaism.
The Metrons made kind of a dick move, having the "recording" devices also transmit, so the Gorn heard Kirk. And where are all of these super-advanced species everytime the Dominion, Borg, etc. invade the quadrant?
Ragnar Redbeard would have told Kirk to kill it & eat it! That Metron character is played by a woman, but I think that actress was an early MTF. "SHE" has arms & shoulders that look pretty masculine!!
Keen, I hope these details assist you in updating one or more conclusions. The Metron's voice was provided by Vic Perrin, the control voice in Outer Limits. The Metron's body was portrayed by a young Carole Shelyne who was internationally famous from the ABC show Shindig! where she was absolutely all-girl and a popular dancer. Later, starting in the early 1980s she was an awesome Educator in the motion picture industry, helping young people to become actors and directors... which is an important contribution to Disclosure. She married J.J. Barry a male actor and writer. I've have been looking for a video that I made for her some time ago, but couldn't find it until I re-uploaded it. Again, I hope this is viewed as intended... to be helpful. ua-cam.com/video/l7FgB-9HV-c/v-deo.html
This is actually insane, I’ve seen like 2 little segments of Star Trek, when I was forced to watch TV to pass the time… This is one of the slips I have seen!! I can’t even explain how crazy that is… it is like Fate…. My desire to dig deeper into what you have told me is great, however I’m not sure I entirely understand
Yes, my understanding is that if you are kind and open minded and reach out... eventually you will be able to connect with those who can help in some way. Based on past experience, I advocate reading the NT as a form of treasure map to earlier pre-existing texts which are assimilated into it. The NT makes reference to the works of the gentile philosophers Plato, Seneca, Theophrastus, Democritus... and many others going back all the way to the Chaldeans and Sumerians... and also rejected Hebrew works, such as the Book of Enoch. Once you arrive at that conclusion and sample evidence to support it... your mind will be open to learning. I can answer any questions or provide any supporting evidence should you be doubtful of anything I suggested.
@@TomOwensUAP I feel it’s appropriate to note I have already been a surface/level explorer of ancient wisdom and teaching, and the title of ‘Christian’ is more ceremonial than actual, with my original philosophical learning laying in the East… I am incredibly open to finding whatever I can which shall lead me to some kind of essence from which this ancient information has been derived, and so your comment is already incredibly useful in that I shall search and attempt to find what it is that is to be found therein. It is a shame I haven’t so far found more as astute and direct as you are, which is quite funny considering the veiled esoteric nature of your videos- however your actual knowledge seems to be extensive. But of course none of that is surprising, it is a fool who proclaims from a town square that he has the answers, the wise man more likely I suppose to sit in the coffee shop nearby and ponder if there was anything he had said which had some deeper use value 😂
@@cjsonder your sense of humor shines brightly through the challenges you face, I very much respect that. I'll be here to help answer any questions or to provide search keywords.
@@TomOwensUAP it’s kind of irrelevant to this particular topic, but I just thought it may be of interest to you I have been finding seeming occurrences in the game Black Desert Online… seems like a lot of the naming of things was done with intention. For example, I made a post in my guild discord about this but it got no traction. It was: Freida Pinto… F Pinto David David Finto Black Desert Dark Knight Satellite “This article is about actress Freida Pinto who stars along Hollywood Actor David Oyelowo in a short film about the Black Knight Satellite” David Finto is a character in Black Desert, but maybe some kind of search someone might type David Pinto as I had thought he was named before I remembered correctly, they could find the result which shows this movie and may enquire into the Black Knight Satellite, which thus far I haven’t found anything convincing on, however it is a rather interesting coincidence.
@@TomOwensUAP oh in my case there is nothing to respect about that, (as far as I can tell) it is eye movements and neurolinguistic reprogramming which has allowed a depth of the potential to experience even those things we have hiccups on in life which might affect someone… Negotiating (or rather, not) with ‘terrorists’, learning about blackmail and extortion. It is even more so the hundreds or thousands of hours of subconsciously absorbed Alan Watts lectures and 11 years of cannabis use, using gaming as a tool to understand the fact that we may as well be in a virtual reality simulator… Even the fact that the shreds of evidence I have which show improvement may never end, and can be delivered wirelessly through the air to the target subject gives a sense of hope. If there’s anything relevant to think of this, it is the utilitarianism that has seeped into my being. Any of it provides value; torture is only a good thing. Amor fati. Death is either non-existence (I don’t think so), or the afterlife is a mystery (perhaps just forgotten) that further extends my comprehension of ‘whatever there is’, ‘which is not good or bad lest by perception’, it is nothing to me if I shall have a problem. We’re still trying to beat the vanity out of me I think, but at what point is that just basic instinctual self-preservation? I think we have quite gotten to that point. We don’t respect, generally, the ‘supersoldier of the future’, because he is ‘made’ better- it is not through any hero story. So what can I say? I doubt I am really to be respected. Respect my humanity, as I anyone else’s, perhaps the joke itself is the value, but in spite of anything? I think not, I have no capacity to suffer, so to respect that is misplaced. I respect your attitude though, to give that gesture to one who may appreciate it, that is definitely wholesome and shows your humanity as a man. It is something I relate to, but I feel in the depth you explore you deserve to know the truth about me, than for me to allow you to think something which is not reality of who you are interacting with. And yet, it goes deeper still, but that is for another day.
Advise if you disagree that, per some ancient writings, Metatron is the name that Enoch received after his ascension and transformation to an angel... with Genesis 5:24, "Enoch walked with God, then he was no more, because God took him." being a surviving pointer with the Hebrew canon.
Nearly 60 years after this episode aired, far too many still miss the fact that testing of the human Kirk continued even after the Metron had put him at ease. If you look closely, you can see the wry smile on Carolyne Barry's face as the Metron makes the test offer. You can see the praise continue when Kirk declines that offer in favor of dialogue.
Do you think it possible that a superior ETI watches UA-cam comments in amusement as the episode effectively identifies the goats from the sheep of Ben Matthew 25:31-46?
I don't doubt beings like this exist. The universe is enormous.
Ben Franklin knew it by 1728.
The advanced trait of mercy. Indeed.
The Gorn really needed more appearances.
Is it true that we later learn that the Gorn could survive exposure to the vacuum of space?
Gorn was portrayed on ENTERPRISE, however it was animated
@@phillytvdirector In a Mirror Darkly....broadcast April 2005. Can you confirm that the title is a reference to the author behind Apostle Paul cleverly referencing Plato's Allegory of the Cave?
@@TomOwensUAP seriously? How can I confirm that when I am not the author of The episode? Or the author of any specific book in the holy Bible? Why would you ask such a question? I am not a theologian.
@@phillytvdirector well we can break the problem into pieces. After doing just a little research with the keywords I provide... can you confirm that Plato is the earliest on record to use the phrase "through a glass darkly" in his Allegory of Cave narrative of his work The Republic written c. 375 BCE? You don't have to play if you don't wish to. I just work the opportunity for those who are curious about the purpose behind the naming.
That was nice of the gnomes to wash him, do his hair, and clean his clothes for him before sending him back to the ship :)
Knowing Shatner, I'm sure he demanded it. Hysterical... thank you for checking in.
I loved the Gorn. "I SHALL BE QUICK AND MERCIFUL".
Everybody mentions the Mercy Kirk shows to the monster. But no one points that he also respect the défensive nature of the attack. So , Kirk respects the Idea of letting others lives their life in peace and not imposing an alien presence in a Land where one doesn't belong.
Consider if you concur that the Gorn Hegemony were not so inclined.
Everyone talks about Trelane, but these people remind me even more of Q than he does
Great comment, I think Trelane's behavior as compared with the de Lancie Q is what leads them to that... but the two parental units were more like this Metron, yes. Thank you for checking in, hope you have a good weekend.
QumranEssene writes: "Yes! Remember Spock's hand gesture for live long and prosper is clearly Hebrew."
That's right! 🖖 Based on the Blessing of the Kohanim. This is openly acknowledged by Leonard Nimoy. Good contribution, thank you for checking in.
The Metrons are an iconic star trek character after the tholians.
Interesting! How do you rank the Talosians.. especially with respect to very real UFO-ET phenomenon they serve to explain?
@UCp-a0zdRl7Dek_mH7Dw8lGg funny thing is I don't remember them. Are they the guys from the Menagerie? The guys with the bald heads who didn't speak but used telepathy only?
@@LucysPop, that's right! The Talosians were the ones from The Cage and The Menagerie who could make humans see whatever they wanted them to see and who communicated via Telepathy. These characters appear to be taken from various UFO encounter reports around the world at that time and just prior.
@@TomOwensUAP geesh. Those guys were tough. Probably could kick the tholians and the metrons butt. I think only the Organians could stop them.
@@LucysPop, I was wondering if you had adopted a conflict-oriented "fisticuffs" style comparison of Star Trek's portrayal of our Galactic elder brethren as a way of deliberately showing that humanity is not yet ready for Disclosure?
En-men-dur-ana, held significance among the Pre-Sumerians as he was the ancestor from whom all priests of the Sun God had to be able to trace descent. A Semitic language narrative tells of Emmeduranki, subsequently being taken to heaven by the gods Shamash (Utu) and Adad, and taught the secrets of heaven and of earth. En-men-dur-ana is associated with the city Sippar noted for worship of the sun. Enmendurana appears 7th on the Sumerian Kings List.
For all these reasons, the Biblical patriarch Enoch appears to be based on the far earlier Sumerian Enmenduranki. Enoch is also 7th from Adama and his lifespan is said to have been 365 years which is the number of days for EArth to make one complete revolution around its star.
It's funny how He-Man and the Masters of the Universe brought this up.
@@usamazahid3882 must be by the Power of Grayskull. ;)
@@TomOwensUAP Yeah. I saw that episode.
He is a Arch Angel!!! and a Priest of The Melchizedek Order!!! and he is obedient to the 1,000,000 by-laws of The Melchizedek Order!!! Source be Praised. Make glad the heart of a child!!! Amen!!!
@@kellyb.mcdonald1863 if you do a little reading and swimming through the reed sea, you will find the conceptual origins for the dual Priest-King of Melchizedek in the Sumerian personage of Gudea. Under the guidance of Yosef ben Matityahu (Joseph Barmathea) The New Testament makes numerous intertextual references to the ancient Sumerian literature as a way of confirming the origins of Shepherd Kings and Priest Kings.
I don't think Metron is all that civilized if he set up a fight with a man and a Gorn---a lizard thing who happens to be 10 times stronger! A totally unfair match.
The humans are faster, and apparently a bit smarter. Setting up involuntary fights between any two specifies... to include those evenly matched... ~would~ still seem uncivilized. However, the Gorn and Kirk were already locked in a fight.
Funny how they claim humans are half savage, yet they're the ones who dump two intelligent beings on a planet to fight to the death. Who's the real savage?
I absolutely encourage this kind of thinking about hypocrisy. However, if you recall from the TOS episode "Arena" the two species were already locked in mortal combat from the events on Cestus III and with a chase into Metron space. In any hour long television or short story adaptation you are likely to find contrivances and plot holes in order to package a set of primary ideas and symbols that the writers, directors and producers want delivered. The ultimate take-away for the episode, beyond how to make gunpowder, is the prompt to study the ancient Enoch literature and track it back to the narratives of Emmeduranki of Sippar.
Good point !!!
Classic episode
Agreed. Very important in sowing seeds.
"Maybe, in a thousand years or so..."
We are the metrons. As you saw your captain was defeated.The captain of the Earth ship chose to spare your captain and your ship. We believe there is no hope for your kind but we respect the Earth Captain's wishes. From this day forward you must have a saying amongst your people. Never bring a primitive stone knife to a bamboo Cannon fight.
Hysterical! I just know I will have some fun with this new maxim in the near future. Thank you for checking in. Hope you weekend is a good one.
As the Metron said. We are still half savage. Just look at today's political climate.
Liberal vs Conservative. Country against Country. We let greed & pride rule our lives.
We do have the power to turn that around if we just exercise it.
Yes.
The lust for money prevents us exercising it.
They were cold blooded, and now they're gorn ("gawn")☮️
bahdumtsh! Thank you for checking in.
Sulu, at 500 parsecs (1,631 light years), you would not be clear across the galaxy.
Victor, this is a good, instructional comment that should prompt a few viewers to learn that the actual diameter of the Milky Way Galaxy is ~90,000 ly or 27,607 pc.
Yep. One thing sci fi messes up on so often is distances. In Star Trek: The Motion Picture before they edited the original for more cgi fixes etc, I got a kick out of the Epsilon 9 crewman’s claim that the V’Ger cloud was “over 82 A.U.’s in diameter”. OMG that’s just so ridiculous (by comparison, Pluto’s orbit is about 79 A.U.’s in diameter.)
@@eliasshaikh2065 my recollection is that Branch on Epsilon IX claimed the cloud was just over 2 A.U.'s in diameter which has a hidden meaning. I will try to confirm that and get back with you here, but if you have an article with supporting information, can you describe it or include the link? The comment will not be released right away, I will have to approve it.... but I will be on the lookout for it. Thank you for checking in with this comment as I expect I will prove instructional.
The Metron praised Kirk for showing mercy but he offered to destroy the Gorn ship. Seems he was lacking in his own mercy.
Nearly 60 years after this episode aired, far too many still miss the fact that testing of the human Kirk continued even after the Metron had put him at ease. If you look closely, you can see the wry smile on Carolyne Barry's face as the Metron makes the test offer. You can see the praise continue when Kirk declines that offer in favor of dialogue.
Do you think it possible that a superior ETI watches UA-cam comments in amusement as the episode effectively identifies the goats from the sheep of Ben Matthew 25:31-46?
Larry the Metron also had a side gig voicing the outer limits, where he was also a control freak there too,
Chuckle, your comment is timely because I have a directly related video currently in the works.
I've not previously heard Perrin and Barry's Metron referred to as "Larry" before... so I'm guessing you are going with the gender neutral slang pejorative for "moron" but that doesn't really fit the character's intelligence or abilities. Vic Perrin did provide the "Control Voice" in the original version of the TV series The Outer Limits... and the upcoming video will cover that and more... so I will tag you on it here.
I have noticed that many, but not all, humans can have strong negative reactions to being shown any reference or evidence that humans are comparatively ignorant or barbaric and that they often miss the use of symbolism to quickly communicate concerns in a self contained 42 minute television play.
This will amuse some... because such reactions do seem to confirm the accusation and provides rationale for those researchers (Pugh, Vallee et. al.) who have concluded that humans are puppeteered by an unseen hand. ;)
Thank you for checking in.
This is kind of an unusual storyline for Trek. It's really more in line with something you see on Space:1999, the concept of humans being too primitive and too savage to be allowed to exist in the universe. Wonder Woman walso went into this type of realm, with the excellent two part "Judgement from Outer space".
Great comment and in support of your finding.... this channel recognizes Wonder Woman's Judgement from Outer Space as a respectful nod to The Day The Earth Stood Still and a hint at the IDH spaceship revealed by Daniel Sheehan. It takes two videos with overlapping content to demonstrate this:
Sheehan's Dimension Ship and Vatican Rebuff
ua-cam.com/video/lI8kyz7T5GU/v-deo.html
Wonder Woman's Dimension Ship from Judgement from Outer Space
ua-cam.com/video/rRIfq0_IN1M/v-deo.html
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you're obviously not a Trekkie
In ST:Next Generation, John de Lancie's Q makes it clear that humans are still quite primitive. With ST:ENTERPRISE, T'Pol and other Vulcans suggest that humans, to include a ludicrously brash Captain Archer, are not yet ready to be blundering into first contact events.
Still, in lieu of taking a info-empty shot at Brock...
could it just maybe have been more productive for you to provide an example of another episode from ST:TOS where the humans are portrayed as relatively backward? Maybe a comment from the Talosians (The Menagerie or The Cage)... or from the Organians (Errand of Mercy).... from Gary Seven (Assignment Earth) stating that Earth is too primitive... but of course that was circa 1968...
or perhaps one or two others I'm holding in reserve for you to mention in your next comment... if you like. ;)
The key here is the advanced trait of mercy not available in this world
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath.
It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
-Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Never will be
Jesus Christ showed us humanity's potential for greatness, what is possible with a change in the human condition.
Actors scene for great opportunity to gain:
The medical term for hearing sounds like ringing, buzzing, hissing, or clicking in one or both ears when there's no external source is tinnitus.
Outstanding... and here's the follow through. Thank you for checking in.
ua-cam.com/video/hrt_WHO52yE/v-deo.html
There is no science fiction better than that portrayed in Star Trek.
One of the characteristics of Trek Science Fiction is that some of the clues seeded in it have become more widely known as humans read the ancient literature. Some of it also became reality.
Amazing that the Metron was played by a woman.
Yes. Carolyne Barry also appeared in the Next Generation episode "Home Soil".
@@TomOwensUAP As a metron? What a great alien race. Too bad we didn't see more of them.
@@LucysPop, at 33:00 into TNG's Home Soil, Carolyne Barry appears as an unnamed blonde engineer aboard Enterprise with grade of ensign who advises Commander Riker that the computer system can no longer hold a containment force field or seal on a newly discovered crystalline lifeform in one of Enterprise's labs.
@@LucysPop In a thousand years. Imagine Star trek tv then? Lol.
@@rxonmymind8362 I'd like to be around to see that.
How do they know it’s really Captain Kirk? They just take his word for it? No ATM PIN number or challenge code? WTF?
@CAptainReedo40, I would just point out that he demonstrates that he knows Sulu's name... and once again... a 42 minute self-contained tv episode is mostly about delivering a symbolic ángelma.
Predecessor of Q?
In a way... yes. In Hebrew apocrypha, Metatron is the name that Enoch received after his transformation to an angel. It is possible that the Q were created in the ST universe to be able to share ideas without the obvious links to Judaism.
Shave and a haircut....two bits!
The Metrons made kind of a dick move, having the "recording" devices also transmit, so the Gorn heard Kirk. And where are all of these super-advanced species everytime the Dominion, Borg, etc. invade the quadrant?
Might that have been to show that the Gorn alien understood English?
Beautiful hope :-]
Yes. Excellent comment... which the original heart indicated a few months ago.
Ragnar Redbeard would have told Kirk to kill it & eat it!
That Metron character is played by a woman, but I think that actress was an early MTF. "SHE" has arms & shoulders that look pretty masculine!!
Keen, I hope these details assist you in updating one or more conclusions. The Metron's voice was provided by Vic Perrin, the control voice in Outer Limits. The Metron's body was portrayed by a young Carole Shelyne who was internationally famous from the ABC show Shindig! where she was absolutely all-girl and a popular dancer. Later, starting in the early 1980s she was an awesome Educator in the motion picture industry, helping young people to become actors and directors... which is an important contribution to Disclosure. She married J.J. Barry a male actor and writer. I've have been looking for a video that I made for her some time ago, but couldn't find it until I re-uploaded it. Again, I hope this is viewed as intended... to be helpful.
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This is actually insane,
I’ve seen like 2 little segments of Star Trek, when I was forced to watch TV to pass the time…
This is one of the slips I have seen!!
I can’t even explain how crazy that is… it is like Fate…. My desire to dig deeper into what you have told me is great, however I’m not sure I entirely understand
Yes, my understanding is that if you are kind and open minded and reach out... eventually you will be able to connect with those who can help in some way.
Based on past experience, I advocate reading the NT as a form of treasure map to earlier pre-existing texts which are assimilated into it. The NT makes reference to the works of the gentile philosophers Plato, Seneca, Theophrastus, Democritus... and many others going back all the way to the Chaldeans and Sumerians... and also rejected Hebrew works, such as the Book of Enoch.
Once you arrive at that conclusion and sample evidence to support it... your mind will be open to learning. I can answer any questions or provide any supporting evidence should you be doubtful of anything I suggested.
@@TomOwensUAP I feel it’s appropriate to note I have already been a surface/level explorer of ancient wisdom and teaching, and the title of ‘Christian’ is more ceremonial than actual, with my original philosophical learning laying in the East…
I am incredibly open to finding whatever I can which shall lead me to some kind of essence from which this ancient information has been derived, and so your comment is already incredibly useful in that I shall search and attempt to find what it is that is to be found therein.
It is a shame I haven’t so far found more as astute and direct as you are, which is quite funny considering the veiled esoteric nature of your videos- however your actual knowledge seems to be extensive. But of course none of that is surprising, it is a fool who proclaims from a town square that he has the answers, the wise man more likely I suppose to sit in the coffee shop nearby and ponder if there was anything he had said which had some deeper use value 😂
@@cjsonder your sense of humor shines brightly through the challenges you face, I very much respect that. I'll be here to help answer any questions or to provide search keywords.
@@TomOwensUAP it’s kind of irrelevant to this particular topic, but I just thought it may be of interest to you I have been finding seeming occurrences in the game Black Desert Online… seems like a lot of the naming of things was done with intention.
For example, I made a post in my guild discord about this but it got no traction. It was:
Freida Pinto… F Pinto
David
David Finto
Black Desert Dark Knight Satellite
“This article is about actress Freida Pinto who stars along Hollywood Actor David Oyelowo in a short film about the Black Knight Satellite”
David Finto is a character in Black Desert, but maybe some kind of search someone might type David Pinto as I had thought he was named before I remembered correctly, they could find the result which shows this movie and may enquire into the Black Knight Satellite, which thus far I haven’t found anything convincing on, however it is a rather interesting coincidence.
@@TomOwensUAP oh in my case there is nothing to respect about that, (as far as I can tell) it is eye movements and neurolinguistic reprogramming which has allowed a depth of the potential to experience even those things we have hiccups on in life which might affect someone… Negotiating (or rather, not) with ‘terrorists’, learning about blackmail and extortion.
It is even more so the hundreds or thousands of hours of subconsciously absorbed Alan Watts lectures and 11 years of cannabis use, using gaming as a tool to understand the fact that we may as well be in a virtual reality simulator…
Even the fact that the shreds of evidence I have which show improvement may never end, and can be delivered wirelessly through the air to the target subject gives a sense of hope.
If there’s anything relevant to think of this, it is the utilitarianism that has seeped into my being. Any of it provides value; torture is only a good thing. Amor fati.
Death is either non-existence (I don’t think so), or the afterlife is a mystery (perhaps just forgotten) that further extends my comprehension of ‘whatever there is’, ‘which is not good or bad lest by perception’, it is nothing to me if I shall have a problem.
We’re still trying to beat the vanity out of me I think, but at what point is that just basic instinctual self-preservation?
I think we have quite gotten to that point.
We don’t respect, generally, the ‘supersoldier of the future’, because he is ‘made’ better- it is not through any hero story. So what can I say? I doubt I am really to be respected.
Respect my humanity, as I anyone else’s, perhaps the joke itself is the value, but in spite of anything? I think not, I have no capacity to suffer, so to respect that is misplaced.
I respect your attitude though, to give that gesture to one who may appreciate it, that is definitely wholesome and shows your humanity as a man. It is something I relate to, but I feel in the depth you explore you deserve to know the truth about me, than for me to allow you to think something which is not reality of who you are interacting with.
And yet, it goes deeper still, but that is for another day.
The original Q
There was also Trelane, the squire of Gothos.
@@jonathanaarhus224 check that please... as my understanding is that "The Squire of Gothos was written by Paul Schneider.
Character was played by a woman
Visually portrayed by Carolyn H. Barry with voice provided by Vic Perrin. She will later appear as an engineer in TNG's episode Home Soil.
That's interesting. The character she played gave me
the impression of a Greek God.
@phillytvdirector That happened also in the episode "The cage" where the Talosian butt head aliens were played by old ladies.
Star Trek's Metro Eunich Emma Durante
Advise if you disagree that, per some ancient writings, Metatron is the name that Enoch received after his ascension and transformation to an angel... with Genesis 5:24, "Enoch walked with God, then he was no more, because God took him." being a surviving pointer with the Hebrew canon.
Patronizing punk Metron.
You'd like to punch him?
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@@whiteknightcat just goes to show how the enlightened ones are now despised by those who refuse to do their homework.