"I Don't Believe Her!" Kevin O'Sullivan's SLAMS Paula Vennells' Post Office IT Probe

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  • Talk's Kevin O'Sullivan reacts to Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells breaking her almost decade-long silence on the Horizon scandal as she was quizzed on how things unfolded on her watch.
    She stopped mid-answer and reached for a tissue as she was grilled about why she had told MPs that the Post Office had been successful in every case against subpostmasters.
    The 65-year-old ordained priest also became visibly upset as the inquiry looked into the Post Office’s response to the suicide of subpostmaster Martin Griffiths in 2013.
    As she gave evidence on Wednesday, Ms Vennells admitted she “made mistakes” but denied there was a conspiracy to cover up the scandal.
    Kevin says: "Give her an Oscar".
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 212

  • @cathygrover4947
    @cathygrover4947 Місяць тому +125

    She is crying for herself, I hope she doesn't retire on an enormous pension. she deserves to go to jail. xx

    • @olliebeak131
      @olliebeak131 Місяць тому +8

      Jail? Don't make me laugh. This is the UK, remember....

  • @JulieMalone-oy1ll
    @JulieMalone-oy1ll Місяць тому +97

    Everyone that was involved in the scandal, should go to jail

  • @chris-4566
    @chris-4566 Місяць тому +97

    Vennells was protecting POL at all cost and not worrying, at any point, about whether postmasters went to prison wrongly. That’s unforgivable.

  • @fterimage
    @fterimage Місяць тому +81

    Postmasters were bankrupted and put in jail. Bankrupt this woman and put her in jail.

    • @TheLadrowski
      @TheLadrowski Місяць тому +7

      Absolutely 💯

    • @user-ox7gc2zw9q
      @user-ox7gc2zw9q Місяць тому +6

      Agreed.. she needs to lose everything like the postmasters lost all they had… Shameful, and incredible. She is lying. Off course she knew!

  • @nathanlewis4751
    @nathanlewis4751 Місяць тому +98

    Shes got too go too JAIL for what shes done END OFF

  • @jamesrashbrook9485
    @jamesrashbrook9485 Місяць тому +62

    If she didn't know how is her millions of pounds in salary , bonuses and pension justified....As a CEO there is no one above her

    • @ritab8663
      @ritab8663 Місяць тому +7

      She is therefore imo totally responsible. You don’t be in charge of a company or organisation to not be culpable

    • @sfsf6768
      @sfsf6768 Місяць тому +4

      Over 5 million pounds

    • @rogertempleman-ed2xv
      @rogertempleman-ed2xv 28 днів тому

      The post office minister in government is above her?

  • @sarahosman4933
    @sarahosman4933 Місяць тому +72

    Outrageous & disgustingly disgraceful...

  • @DavidGetling
    @DavidGetling Місяць тому +44

    No one believes her, and all honest, decent people think she should go to jail. But, knowing British "justice" I won't hold my breath on this happening.

  • @anthonywilson8998
    @anthonywilson8998 Місяць тому +31

    With the law of malfeasance you are guilty if you know, and you are just as guilty if you claim you don’t know but you really should know, you are just as guilty. This is NOT A DEFENCE. SHE MUST GO TO. JAIL . BONUSES MUST BE TAKEN BACK,. SHE RUINED HUNDREDS OF LIVES

    • @ritab8663
      @ritab8663 Місяць тому

      She was responsible as top of the salaried positioned tree

  • @stevenmcgowan3205
    @stevenmcgowan3205 Місяць тому +60

    Oh look.... someone wealthy with influence is going to get away with wrongdoing... can you imagine my surprise? 🤨

    • @jamesduncan6415
      @jamesduncan6415 Місяць тому

      I thought see was going to jail until she pulled out the crocodile tears 😂😂

    • @user-og8lk7wv7h
      @user-og8lk7wv7h 29 днів тому

      ​@@jamesduncan6415it's an enquiry no one goes to prison

    • @user-ki4uc6rm9k
      @user-ki4uc6rm9k 27 днів тому

      It’s an enquiry none of the people who should be prosecuted won’t be,they’ll walk away all the people who’s lives they destroyed will never see justice served unfortunately it disgusts me how the act and claim no knowledge

  • @mariewalmsley6143
    @mariewalmsley6143 Місяць тому +44

    She deserves everything she gets. Pity she won't be prosecuted as well.

    • @kathykay9920
      @kathykay9920 Місяць тому +6

      Alan Bates has spoken to the police. They are, looking into key figures. If they don't crowdfunding personal prosecutions will do it

    • @kathykay9920
      @kathykay9920 Місяць тому +3

      She will

  • @davidfenton4387
    @davidfenton4387 Місяць тому +26

    She needs to go to jail for several years at least, she is an utter disgrace. And those crocodile tears were hilarious. JAIL !!

  • @FredericChopin-ht5xm
    @FredericChopin-ht5xm Місяць тому +34

    She either lies or was incompetent.Either way she is guilty and should be punished.

  • @pegasusstation4977
    @pegasusstation4977 Місяць тому +5

    Give her 30 years behind bars.

  • @cndns2
    @cndns2 Місяць тому +9

    The stance she is taking (choosing the lesser of 2 evils) is to look stupid and incompetent rather than admit guilt. Either way, Paula Vennells' life is over and will go down in the history books as guilty.

  • @user-do2pb5pu3x
    @user-do2pb5pu3x Місяць тому +17

    She was paid £5 Million to know what was going on and to be on top of it!

  • @smudge0161
    @smudge0161 Місяць тому +28

    If she was that upset she would have donated her wages to the victims.

  • @jessy970
    @jessy970 Місяць тому +6

    She is a disgrace , she can’t even answer a question straight away. Why ruined people’s lives

  • @dannywest7587
    @dannywest7587 Місяць тому +25

    PAULA SHOULD GO TOO PRISION !!!

  • @mrechelon7051
    @mrechelon7051 Місяць тому +8

    Incompetent or corrupt, which one? Maybe both. Either way she took money under false pretences. Thats fraud. 10 years...

  • @neilpalmer3170
    @neilpalmer3170 Місяць тому +4

    She knowingly allowed innocent people to go to jail, many lives, reputations, destroyed and worse

  • @rogerjamesmoore4652
    @rogerjamesmoore4652 Місяць тому +22

    She is sorry alright ..
    Sorry she got caught ...
    Crocodile.tears from a cold blooded heartless person who is shirking the blame and covering her own backside before wanting to see justice, and truth to be upheld and take responsibility for this awful and tragic situation that she was very much the cause of and knew about .

  • @LIONHEARTED20
    @LIONHEARTED20 Місяць тому +33

    All involved right up to David Cameron will be rewarded for these very serious crimes !!!

    • @malcolmmitchell6529
      @malcolmmitchell6529 Місяць тому +5

      Cameron is the arch demon of british politics, he will be there for life.

    • @Kaiserbill99
      @Kaiserbill99 Місяць тому +3

      Why just David Cameron? The Horizon system was launched in the late 90s and prosecutions started under the watch of both Blair and Brown. Alan Bates lost his PO in 2003. Cameron did not become PM until 2010 and then there were three ministers responsible for the PO all of whom were Liberal Democrats.
      Not everything fits into people's personal political agenda, however hard they try to make it fit.

  • @matthewhaddon599
    @matthewhaddon599 Місяць тому +12

    Several should be in prison. Vennells, Crozier, van Der Bogerd etc.

  • @bernieflynn4803
    @bernieflynn4803 Місяць тому +9

    the very definition of "Implausible Deniability"

  • @LMMusic947
    @LMMusic947 Місяць тому +14

    She said at one point yesterday she was too trusting. Bollocks . The only people she trusted were those whose opinions toed her line of thought. She must think everyone at the inquiry blind and totally inept.

  • @MrPinkStrat
    @MrPinkStrat Місяць тому +11

    If she did know ( Which I believe she did ) then she should go to JAIL! if she didn't know She is the Most incompetent CEO in Britain & Should never had Got the Job in the first place & She should Still go to Jail Because the Buck stops with HER !

  • @LIONHEARTED20
    @LIONHEARTED20 Місяць тому +32

    Plus is there a investigation into who was typing these figures into the postmasters computers from the basement of Fujitsu ???????!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @TheLadrowski
      @TheLadrowski Місяць тому

      Great point 👉

    • @abc33944
      @abc33944 Місяць тому +1

      That bit of information MuSt be investigated and did losses
      As their will be an audit trail of events from people logging on

  • @jamescoburn6789
    @jamescoburn6789 Місяць тому +13

    I don't think she deserves an Oscar, it isn't a credible performance. Obfuscation, delay and philibuster.

    • @amandamcauley
      @amandamcauley Місяць тому

      My own thoughts exactly.

    • @CYCHIATRIC
      @CYCHIATRIC Місяць тому

      Why put any effort in when there’s no threat?

  • @MichaelEnright-gk6yc
    @MichaelEnright-gk6yc Місяць тому +10

    She has no proof that she claims she pushed back and questioned no proof what so ever.
    But plenty of her involvement including secret phone calls.
    She is crying because she is going to jail.
    Who signed off the £100 million pound spend on lawyers.

  • @margaretcardona2165
    @margaretcardona2165 Місяць тому +16

    Too posh for prison. Forfeit pension.

    • @ritab8663
      @ritab8663 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe considered too posh but that should not make an iota of difference

  • @monkfish8012
    @monkfish8012 Місяць тому +15

    Crocodile tears 😭
    She should be in handcuffs 💯

  • @user-bx6ub9kh7o
    @user-bx6ub9kh7o Місяць тому +15

    Sorry for being found out

  • @slottyken
    @slottyken Місяць тому +11

    I don't think she was faking. She's clearly under stress. She knows she messed up and she understands what the consequences could potentially be. She is scared though, and she should be.

    • @philhart4849
      @philhart4849 Місяць тому +4

      I find her utter contempt for hundreds of decent honest hard-working people to be quite evil.

    • @rosalindkennedy4624
      @rosalindkennedy4624 29 днів тому +1

      All the postmasters were scared too.

  • @ruthodonnell2350
    @ruthodonnell2350 Місяць тому +15

    Send her the prison

  • @mrechelon7051
    @mrechelon7051 Місяць тому +7

    She says the post office knew, she didn't...
    She Was the post office!
    The head. In charge. Big oeuf, grande fromage.. ...
    She was the head. Take the money, take the fall

  • @kathykay9920
    @kathykay9920 Місяць тому +15

    Prison Prison Prison

  • @veronicasmith187
    @veronicasmith187 Місяць тому +4

    I’d give her a prison sentence along with a few more if possible I will avoid using the post office ever again

  • @ruthodonnell2350
    @ruthodonnell2350 Місяць тому +16

    The woman is a liar

  • @ritab8663
    @ritab8663 Місяць тому +9

    I did not like all the blame shifting she was implying

  • @johnmoncrieff3034
    @johnmoncrieff3034 Місяць тому +10

    Vennells took charge of the Post Office in 2011 so from then on she has been responsible irrespective if she claimed not to know. She was being given daily updates on the cases they were taking to court for the alleged fraud due to the Horizon computer system! The Post Office were acting as Judge and jury as well as prosecution in all these cases and they refused to look into the possibility the system was at fault! All those involved must be charged for their part in this horrific miscarriage of justice and have to give some recompense personally to the victims who have had their lives ruined.

  • @smudge0161
    @smudge0161 Місяць тому +11

    They all knew and like all good criminal conspiritees, they blame each other to make it very hard to prosecute.

  • @alantheinquirer7658
    @alantheinquirer7658 Місяць тому +4

    Justifying an obscene salary: "I'm paid for the immense responsibility I have! The buck stops here!"
    Testifying over mismanagement: "It wasn't me, it was those under me. I wasn't responsible!"

  • @susanbishop5228
    @susanbishop5228 Місяць тому +14

    She is either truly incompetent.
    Or lying
    I suspect lying.
    Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

  • @valerietorreggiani9973
    @valerietorreggiani9973 Місяць тому +3

    How on earth can the chief executive be ‘too curious’. Who is she kidding? Her multi thousand pound job was to be too curious!

  • @12dougreed
    @12dougreed Місяць тому +7

    I love that. A £5000 suit absolutely ruined.
    Great one .

  • @revwpitt2347
    @revwpitt2347 Місяць тому +25

    So Ben Harris - Quinney thinks she should just say "I`m sorry " and then step down and withdraw from public life .
    I`m pretty sure that is not what must of us think. She should be facing criminal prosecution and doing jail time.
    It is not good enough that CEO`s are above the law and face no consequences for their illegal actions.
    Get the Water C0. chiefs next.

    • @kathykay9920
      @kathykay9920 Місяць тому +2

      Jail her.

    • @joerudnik9290
      @joerudnik9290 Місяць тому

      Ben must not have been imprisoned and lost all his money, or contemplated losing his life!!

  • @seanhayes9769
    @seanhayes9769 Місяць тому +13

    Like scooby doo I’m half expecting someone to rip off her rubber mask and find out she is actually old man Sanderson from down the boat yard , he would have got away with it but for those meddling sub post masters !

  • @janjames2120
    @janjames2120 Місяць тому +5

    Keir Starmer says he wasn't aware of the three Horizon cases brought against sub-postmasters by the Crown Prosecution Service when he led it. The Labour leader was director of public prosecutions from 2008 to 2013

  • @johnmoncrieff3034
    @johnmoncrieff3034 Місяць тому +5

    There has to be on the ballot paper the option of "NONE OF THE ABOVE" so we the SOVEREIGN PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY CAN HAVE OUR SAY!!!

  • @jeanrees1502
    @jeanrees1502 Місяць тому +8

    Time the police paid her a visit

  • @mick947
    @mick947 Місяць тому +2

    “I’m sorry.. and step down”! I’m sure the sub post masters would think that was somewhat lacking in justice!

  • @ralphplumb7027
    @ralphplumb7027 Місяць тому +4

    She was the CEO of a complete and utter bunch of incompetent and indifferent amateur bullies on huge salaries!! They should all be made to repay their salaries back as well as jail time for the handful at the top!. Might help their willfull amnesia disappear too contemplating in a jail cell!!

  • @JamesGU4
    @JamesGU4 Місяць тому +3

    Remember that it doesn't just stop with the Post Office and the Blood Service. This is a problem with all government quangos that have the power to prosecute. For example, NHS Dental operates a computer complaints scheme that is corrupt and designed to force people to repay the cost of free dental care. Even the Architects Registration Board is regularly destroying the reputations and livelihoods of architects by striking them off because a complaint against them might be 'perceived' as wrongdoing. We need a full investigation of all these organisations.

  • @HyacinthFl0wer
    @HyacinthFl0wer Місяць тому +4

    She knew all along. She is being extremely dishonest, saying she can’t recall, I may have said and suchlike. She had no concern for the lives and families ruined, some died. She’s STILL defending HERSELF after this. I agree, I feel she knew what was happening. Then she leaves and becomes a church minister! There is something DEEPLY WRONG with someone like that. There is one word for it. She was the person at the top, she was responsible for her actions. She needs to be honest and take responsibility of her wrong doings and deception.She is not doing this. People like this at the top of large public organisations must surely be the start of something rotten and undemocratic. I’m hoping lots of the Big Noises here and there realise this and do what’s required..do what is needed to nip this behaviour in the bud to discourage other wrong ‘uns

  • @kenhardy8405
    @kenhardy8405 Місяць тому +9

    Lord Arbuthnot championed the sub postmasters and took their fight on, Sir Ed Davey ignored their plight and did Nothing to help them because there was nothing in it for him.

    • @DavidpaynePaynedavid-yn3oe
      @DavidpaynePaynedavid-yn3oe Місяць тому

      Ed Davey didn't take on the fight because it was more than likely he's been receiving bribes / gifts and corporate freebies from the companies installing and running the computer systems for the Post Ofiice and other goverment departments along with other corrupt criminal goverment official and senior post office management personelle.
      Posted by 15 year old student who will be proven correct when NO criminal action is taken against those involved and the companies fulfilling the contracts as senior politians have or have had their sticky little fingers in the cookie jar. 😂

  • @JulieMalone-oy1ll
    @JulieMalone-oy1ll Місяць тому +11

    Oh she might be upset but its not for the sake of the people, its cried cos shes been collard

  • @davy_K
    @davy_K Місяць тому +4

    I think we've all had a bellyful of straw unqualified CEOs such as Vennells and unethical boardrooms such as that at Fujitsu UK.

  • @brentwestbrook
    @brentwestbrook Місяць тому +6

    Either incompetence or negligence. Either way it needs to be custodial.

    • @joerudnik9290
      @joerudnik9290 Місяць тому

      Maybe incompetently criminal.😂😂😂

  • @sfsf6768
    @sfsf6768 Місяць тому +2

    Going to an inquiry for 3 days and having a bad reputation isn’t a punishment.

  • @Paulav719
    @Paulav719 Місяць тому +4

    They were quick enough to send innocent people to jail now lets send the guilt ones like paula susan

  • @johnmurray8428
    @johnmurray8428 Місяць тому +2

    If this monster goes to trial, (as I see it from the other side of the Atlantic,) could British Justice find 12 independent jurors?

  • @alberttickle1106
    @alberttickle1106 Місяць тому +11

    Crocodile tears....

  • @Falco45able
    @Falco45able Місяць тому +3

    Wasn’t she stripped of her CBE ? She needs something to cry about, stop any money’s she thinks she will receive from the post office, and have her before a criminal court for being complicit of ruining these people’s lives!😉

  • @JulieMalone-oy1ll
    @JulieMalone-oy1ll Місяць тому +12

    Crockerdial tears thats all that was

    • @susankeating8678
      @susankeating8678 Місяць тому +1

      I think you mean crocodile tears & yes, I agree with you

  • @MM.-qo7pk
    @MM.-qo7pk Місяць тому +2

    The Parliament/government UK needs to bring in laws to protect the consumers and the public, and more broadly, to protect everyone against this type of criminal activities and fraudulent activities by CEOs, board of directors, managers, fraud investigators, law firms, etc. Laws will make these criminals accountable for their actions in the uk and overseas !

  • @earlebacciochi9796
    @earlebacciochi9796 Місяць тому +3

    POLICE ? WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN DOING ! If I prosecuted someone with false and misleading evidence l would be arrested immediately?

  • @MrAbbraxus
    @MrAbbraxus Місяць тому +3

    Why hasnt she been arrested yet?

  • @TheLebbs2001
    @TheLebbs2001 Місяць тому +6

    Yet again another failure of a women in charge it not a good look the way her memory has failed on every question

  • @GrahamWoodward-ww1zf
    @GrahamWoodward-ww1zf Місяць тому +2

    Even at this stage the system is preserving massive compensation !

  • @peterbennett5910
    @peterbennett5910 Місяць тому +3

    She is not being straight at all. She had years to sort out the problems. She was paid huge amounts of tax payers money. She has not offered to pay anything back. She must be arrested

  • @user-js3rg9sj1k
    @user-js3rg9sj1k Місяць тому +3

    JAIL JAIL JAIL.

  • @skipscrounger39
    @skipscrounger39 Місяць тому +3

    Of course she knew, she was the ring leader

  • @Hails27
    @Hails27 Місяць тому +5

    She's liar it's very easy to see it she is lying should be in jail

  • @deborahgabrilsen3691
    @deborahgabrilsen3691 Місяць тому +3

    Saying leave it with me, and doing nothing, is incompetent at the very least,just what was she paid the huge salary for

  • @777colin1
    @777colin1 Місяць тому +5

    Is it me, or are her cheeks turning red as she is being questioned.. Does this show she is feeling under intense stress

  • @user-ck8zu9tm1o
    @user-ck8zu9tm1o Місяць тому +6

    Mea culpa? I haven't heard one yet.

  • @haydenharris3059
    @haydenharris3059 Місяць тому +3

    Beer is building a case for court.

  • @martinjameslewis5702
    @martinjameslewis5702 Місяць тому +3

    Give her a. Shared. Prison cell. With rose west.

  • @vadersfather1248
    @vadersfather1248 Місяць тому +5

    Was Paula v on the stand? I can’t recall

  • @BarryR.
    @BarryR. Місяць тому +4

    Didn't cry for the people she locked up

  • @hendynz6358
    @hendynz6358 Місяць тому +3

    Just proves that even the religiously pious can lie through their teeth!

  • @anthonywilson8998
    @anthonywilson8998 Місяць тому +3

    Fujitsu had built in a method of cussing remote computers and to remove money. They are guilty and yet no one is looking at this or where the stolen money went. Vennels and Co should have considered this. but would rather believe the Company doing it.

    • @r1bew42
      @r1bew42 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah,Fujitsu is hardly getting a mention.

  • @petercanberra9056
    @petercanberra9056 28 днів тому

    Ms vennell’s legal expenses involved in preparation/ rehearsals for this inquiry must be considerable. I hope the post office are not meeting this cost.

  • @Wee_Langside
    @Wee_Langside Місяць тому

    What does a normal human do when told "don't look" they immediately have a look

  • @rosalindkennedy4624
    @rosalindkennedy4624 29 днів тому

    To all CEO’s better do your job carefully, correctly and honestly because with this wonderful independent media (not newspapers owned by big business) if you don’t do the right thing, you never know what will come down the line. What happened to these postmasters, prison when you are pregnant and separated from your family, suicide, 19 year old teenager put in prison, they were spat upon and their children abused and all innocent, the management of the PO aren’t innocent and their punishment should be far higher than what these innocent people had done to them. PV should also be stripped of all her finances and home with a prison sentence at the very least, she certainly has only herself to blame.

  • @leso204
    @leso204 Місяць тому

    Believe it or not there is an element of the public that truly believe 'computors dont make mistakes'

  • @ronhudson3334
    @ronhudson3334 Місяць тому +9

    Paula "l don't recall" Vennells. I don't recall. I don't recall.. l don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall.🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @nectafarious8842
      @nectafarious8842 Місяць тому +2

      'My understanding is, 'My understanding is, 'My understanding is, 'My understanding was, 'My understanding was, 'My understanding was...

  • @alisoncooper2718
    @alisoncooper2718 Місяць тому

    She new what was going on . She deserves to go to jail

  • @dovetonsturdee7033
    @dovetonsturdee7033 Місяць тому

    Is it true that, when leaving the room, she asked Mr. Beer to ask Sir Wyn if he could arrange for her to have her CBE back, as she believed her evidence had convinced everyone that she was an innocent, much maligned, woman?

  • @rsvbiker4149
    @rsvbiker4149 Місяць тому +7

    People have died wtf is wrong with these people if that was a normal person they would be already serving life

  • @Joanne217
    @Joanne217 Місяць тому

    It's 'Always' about the Enablers 😑

  • @madmanacrossthewater5053
    @madmanacrossthewater5053 Місяць тому +2

    A lying incompetent , what a combination !

  • @Whereisyourevidence
    @Whereisyourevidence Місяць тому

    As CEO did she never see a company structure chart showing her she had a prosecution department. Was she not told for years she had people successfully prosecuting and imprisoning and recovering money. Did she never do a walkabout in her company and get introduced to prosecuting lawyers who chatted to her about their jobs. She literally had a police and crown prosecution department and didn’t know????

  • @alanjames884
    @alanjames884 Місяць тому +4

    Ooops. I fucked up, got caught, Better start crying then...

  • @jasontravis6674
    @jasontravis6674 Місяць тому +1

    Prison..Prison…Prison…She has Created,Many Enemies…..👈🏼

  • @mrechelon7051
    @mrechelon7051 Місяць тому +1

    She believes in an invisible friend...with no actual evidence. Religion...
    She doesnt know whats real. Or whats false.

  • @lesclark830
    @lesclark830 Місяць тому +2

    PV... Don't tell me then i can deny i knew.

    • @amandamcauley
      @amandamcauley Місяць тому

      Plausible deniability. Yeah right.

  • @Land-of-reason
    @Land-of-reason Місяць тому

    This is not unusual for the Civil Service.

  • @edithflood631
    @edithflood631 Місяць тому

    Great point that compensation must also be paid for “opportunity loss”, the years since during which the falsely accused have been trying to get along with their lives, hobbled by the damage to reputations and finances and mental health, the fight for justice and the rewarding lives and financial security they should have had, BUT FOR the actions of the post office. Pay up in full for that as well. For the victims or their surviving families.