Well if you don't hawe any Ventilation in you tower No CPU .. AMD or INTEL Are made to run FLAT OUT That's why Intel throttel down A LOT!! ON STOCK COOLER!!!
What the screen shows soon after 4:14 does not match what is being said. "turned off precision boost overdrive" and yet the PBO settings are "auto", it is critical that that PBO is disabled.
It is not just the high temp, it is the speed at which it occurs, on a very high workload they shoot from idle temp about 48C to 85 in about 3 seconds. Never seen that on Ryzen first gen 1600.
What your video doesn’t properly identify is how much of the change is down to the new cooler and how much is the larger cooler. What were temps with the O/C and lower voltage, running the Wraith cooler?
I'm running my 3800X at 4.4Ghz @ 1.325 volts. I'm idling around 28°C and the highest temp I've seen thus far is 58°C. My best Cinebench R20 score is currently 5243.
@@OlettaLiano Which cpu block are you using? I'm running my 3700x at 4.25ghz@1.325v on a custom loop with a 420mm rad and prime95(non-AVX) is hitting around 80 degrees which I find is way too high considering my water temp is only 26C. I've tried re-seating the block multiple times to make sure I have good contact, but it doesn't seem to matter. It's starting to drive me crazy, starting to worry it's my block(ek supremacy evo).
@@glassius85 That does seem pretty hot. What kind of fans are on the radiator? I'm using a EKWB EK-Supremacy MX. My custom loop has 3 EKWB EK-CoolStream XE 360mm Radiators with 9 Noctua chromax black fans. I also lapped my 3800X and the waterblock so they make the best contact possible.
@@OlettaLiano 3x Corsair ML140 PRO. But seeing as the water temp is only 25-26C and the CPU instantly spikes to 80C under load I don't think it's the fans/radiator capacity that's the problem, it has to be the transfer from the CPU to the block. I've been thinking about lapping the cpu and block myself as that's the only way I can think of to improve the heat transfer between CPU and block since I'm already using Kryonaut as my TIM. Did you do any testing before/after lapping?
Hey man I have really been enjoying you tutorials. I have a 3800xt on a MSI x570 board and I have been having the same fluctuating temps. I tried your 4.2 at 1.35v setup and I was still having the same temp issues. Went back into BIOS and set it at 4.1 at 1.35v and she has stabilized at 41c. Thanks for all the videos. Way better than any customer service rep. All they want to do is RMA the board. Viewer for life.
Too many variables. Is it the tuning or the fan that reduced temps? A proper test should show each change in turn. Change the tuning with stock cooler, then add the new cooler with stock tuning, followed by the new cooler with the new tune. I'm guessing the fan may gave more to do with this than overclocking.
This video is spot on. Upgraded from a 2600 that was overclocked to 4.1ghz and only got 60c under stress using my Articfreezer eSports Duo. Same cooler on my 3700x and it's jumping all over the place going mid 70s and this is in a full size Coolmaster HAFX case. It's not necessarily the CPU being hotter that's annoying, it's an 8 core 16 thread so that's got to be expected. The problem is how it jumps all over the place even at idle with fan noise ramping up and down constantly. After 3 days of trial and testing I completely agree with this guy's video. I'm overclocked to 4.1ghz with +0.08 on the voltage offset. The cinebench score is exactly the same (within a few points) as mine was only hitting 4.1ghz on all core boost anyway. It's now quiet and doesn't ramp up for no reason. The only place you will lose out is if you're playing an old game that only uses a couple of cores where the CPU would have boosted a little higher. This is a tiny difference that isn't worth worrying about in my opinion. Whatever cooler you are using, if you have Ryzen 7 or 9 3xxx series you should definitely follow this video.
I too had the 2600 with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black cooler that idled at 22C and never went past 60. It was a pre-built I bought about a year ago and 2 weeks ago I decided to build my first PC. I gave the pre-built to my little brother and bought the 3700X for my CPU. The 50 - 60C idle temps with the prism cooler and PBO enabled were very concerning to say the least because it was so different. I tried to re-seat the cooler with similar temperature results. I decided to look into it and the 3000 series runs hotter than the previous generation. I don't know if the jumps from base clock to 4.3ghz are supposed to happen as frequently as they do but it's a common thing. The behavior of 3000 series CPU's with PBO enabled kind of reminds me of how GPU's run because they overclock on their own and run on high, all cores depending on the work load until they reach 85C and than start to throttle. I realized that the Prism cooler while ok it isn't enough to dissipate heat fast enough to keep this cpu from thermal throttling if the CPU is under 100% load with PBO enabled. It can also be pretty loud. While at Micro Center I came a cross a 240mm Cooler Master AIO for 75 bucks and bought it. With PBO enabled the idle temps stay around 30 - 40C now and when rendering videos @ 100% load the temps hover around 65C. I tried an overclock of 4.4 ghz all cores with 1.25V and 75C was the highest I seen the temps go while rendering. Long story short (I know not really lol) it turns out that higher cpu temps is within spec for these cpu's. Coming from the 2000 series of CPU's it does cause concern but it's within spec. The better the cooler the more you can keep these cpu's from hitting that 85C thermal throttle temps depending on the cpu load.
I had my 3700x running at 4.3ghz all core since day 1 at 1.25v. Hitting only 61C at full bore on the stock cooler. Scraped of the thermal pad, lapped the cooler, and replaced with some artic silver.
@@michaelkeudel8770 Try to launch Aida Fp-64 raytracing benchmark and tell me what happens, if your system completes the test and the max temp reached via hwinfo 64.
what are you using to get these menus? I go into my bios and its the old style and I don't get all these neat features like this. I'm just trying to turn off turbo boost for my cpu.
Hey I have a b550m as well, we’re you able to figure out how to manually change the voltage on everything? I see where it says manual but doesn’t give me an option to type in a new voltage
1.3V+ is screaming chip degredation... I think the best way to find ur FIT is to put dumb values into ur 3 PBO settings *999 for example* run p95 for 10 mins, take note of the current voltage and thats ur max oc voltage. Now u hope u have decent silicon to jump those clockspeeds up
i have that same AUAS tuff motherboard with a 3600 cpu and on idle its like 50C getting up to 60 at times on idle i was like wtf.....but i will get this cooler....his video helps out a lot
You said you turned off Precision Boost Overdrive and put it to None, but in the video when you went to the Precision Boost Overdrive screen, everything is still set at Auto. What I see put to None is the Performance Bias instead. So should I follow what I see on screen or rather follow what you said?
I've just built a system with the Ryzen 7 3600x and the idle temp fluctuates between 58C and 69C, more often at the higher end around 65C. Is this normal? I don't really wanna spend anymore money on a new fan. When installing the CPU I did struggle with installing the fan a bit though and the thermal paste got a bit thinned out due to moving the fan around, could this be contributing to the high temps?
I have the absolutely same problem but with a 3300x. It idles at 53-56, at gaming it goes to 80+, temps are chaotic, one second its 53, then without doing anything at all it goes to 67 for a second, then back down to 50. Can you please tell me what values should I put in for the 3300x ? Stock cooler
Thank you, man! I was having trouble regarding temp fluctuations in idle mode. It got solved but hopefully, undervolting won't decrease my pc performance
I have a 3700x, and I don't have nearly these high temps, so my 1st question is: what kind of case do you have? What is it's air-flow like? What's your motherboard (I see you have an x570, I have an MSI b450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC) ?Obviously an AIO is not being used considering you're featuring the wraith prism (which I also use, at high speed rpm). My 3700x on all cores at 4.2ghz never goes beyond 60 degrees celsius. Period. My case has 6 140mm fans...very good intake airflow from the front (mesh).
Thanks for the info. I plan to build a new rig in the spring, using either the 3700x or 3800x. And I was planning on using the stock cooler as well, but now I think may scratch that idea.
To the FRACK CAN ANYONE USE THE STOCK COOLER TO RUN A CPU FLAT OUT ARE YOU MENTAL!!! YOU CANT RUN ANY CPU AMD INTEL FLAT OUT ON ANY STOCK COOLER WITH OUT THERMAL THROTTELING ISIUES DAMM HOW BIG A SPANNER IS IT POSSIBEL TO BE
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!! I had a little trouble with lowering the voltage (you should have shown how to manually set that btw), but I got it to 1.35 eventually. I have the Scythe Mugen5 CPU cooler, but was still getting erratic high temps and was even getting Core Temp warnings when running benchmarks (such as Cinebench R20 and SiSoftware Sandra Professional). I even tried the fan curve settings to no avail! But after using the settings you describe in the BIOS, my temps are very stable now without the high temp warnings. My Cinebench R20 score even improved up to 5032 after settings! I will be subscribing to your channel my friend!
Bro i have Ryzen 3 3100 but its temperature going above 75 on idle... I changed thermal paste to GD007 and changed the cpu cooler to LANSHUO 6 heat pipes cooler but it is still having same issue
What power plan are you using? Just got myself a 3700x, and the only way to get to 40°C is to change to power saver mode. Will follow your guide, once my new cooler has arrived.
would this solve high temp (jumping from 40s to 50s) and high clock speed ~4.0 GHz on idle? I've got an AIO. I don't think these temps are normal on idle and the clock speed won't go down too. It's driving me crazy
The Wraith coolers ROCK. I'm running my Ryzen 3700 with it and even at pretty heavy loads, it never pushes up much past 60 degrees Celsius. Makes me think that people might be having some issues related to poor airflow in their cases or MAYBE... very high ambient temperatures. I mean... I DID have it moving up to the 70 degrees Celsius, before I plopped one additional case fan, for pulling air out of the case.
Lower your SOC voltage to 1 V at that clock speed and memory frequency there’s no point it running at 1.1 V on the soc you will also notice no performance loss and also you will get a drop in temperature at the same time as reducing the risk of the degrading the memory controller
slick1908 Very good because I think 1.1 vaults is a little bit on the high side I have a 3950 X at 4.5 GHz stable on a big water cooling system which I will be doing a video on my channel about soon and I’m also running mine at 0.9 V at 3600 MHz on the memory totally stable and no performance drop off
My R9 3900x was idling at 50C in the UEFI with a be quiet dark rock pro 4. Reseated the cooler, made sure it was making contact with enough thermal paste (arctic mx4), made sure both fans were blowing the same way. So it was drawing 1.480v on auto, I set it to manual 1.2v and temps dropped to 35-40C.
A few points I'd like to make... I'm running a 3700x, bone stock, with a Noctua NH-U14S cooler, and my CB20 score runs about 4,900. Not sure why your scores are so low... When you want to test temperatures, you need to run Prime95 Small FFTs - not Blend. Blend starts out with a large FFT, which doesn't generate nearly the heat a small FFT does... When you overclock to 4.2 GHz, you are losing your boost speeds, which can be as high as 4.5 GHz. This will improve your heavy workload scores, but any load that doesn't run all your cores at full throttle will be lower, because none of your cores will boost beyond 4.2 GHz. You need to run some lighter workload benchmarks... And finally, just because your system boots and can run some programs at 4.2 GHz/1.35 volts does not mean it is truly stable. You need to run several hours of tests, using several different kinds of workloads, to verify your overclock - Prime95 Blend, OCCT, Blender, etc...
I agree with you, Well i have a 3700X, there's a switch on prizm cooler that most people miss, there are two modes L ( default ) sets max rpm of 3000 and base of 1200. H mode with max rpm of 3300 rpm and base of 2000. However Mine runs at 3700-3800 rpm because i have two top and intake fans. @2000rpm.Amd should mention this onamual
My idle on a 3600 jumps from 30s to 60s randomly. normally between 30s-40s. I have an EVGA CLC 240 and in the process of setting up this build with all of the doodads I need.
With Ryzen you have to throw away the stock cooler, slap in a real high powered one. Either that, or undervolt, underclock, reduce power etc and handicap it so it doesn't turn into Fukashima.
I don't have stock cooler and I still get jumps from doing literally nothing. Though when i'm just in BIOS it's a constant 30 C. I went into BIOS and my core voltage was at 1.030 ish which is significanlty lower than even your undervolted settings. There was a lot of auto on "vcore loadout" and auto on "CPU performance booster" or whatever it was called. I don't know what to touch and not to touch, but clearly if you change some of those autos it will probably solve the problem... I have auros b550m pro, if that helps.
I prefer to use an AIO and exhaust ALL the cpu heat out of the case before it even enters. The graphics card is a lot harder to cool when using a cpu air cooler now a days and the gpu usually runs the hotter of the two components.
Thanks Brian. After I had talked to you yesterday, I did a video. I think after all the editing, it was less then two minutes long. When I rendered it, I ran hardware monitor in the background and as you know, we put the bios back to stock settings. With this cpu and the rest of my components, Davinci resolve 16 works like a champ now. The render was quick, like maybe a minute. I was watching hardware monitor as I was rendering it and in that short time, it go as high as 87c. Wow that is to toasty for sure. My Scythe fuma 2 is on the way.
sorry, but you have not changed or forced the voltage, its still in auto mode. you can cool down the CPU by just setting up a delta of -0.1 volt setting. so, for exemple, when the cpu needs 1.33v, the -0.1 will results in 1.23v and you can keep the automatic frequency activated instead of fixing at 4.2ghz. for 4.2 you can certainly do this undervoltage and be even cooler... or undervolt and increase the frequency. also, in my case, I'm using the ryzen master tool to control this. no need to reboot (except the -0.1 volt setting) I can switch from a cool or PBO profile, to an intensive profile (4.35ghz all core for my 3700x, which is insame and with the default cooler!!!) without any reboot. with all the bios and AMD drivers up to date, its even better now.
?? the voltage setting is in manual mode, at 1.35 volts, that is unvolting. Take no notice of the offset like I said in the video, its set to manual. If you just undervolt, you lose a lot of benchmark score.
@@Britec09 the 1.35v in the video is for the RAM. the CPU itself is set to offset mode without any offset value setup. at 5:41 ua-cam.com/video/FmuSVnciFTo/v-deo.html which is automatic voltage (+ or - an offset value you choose), not manual / fixed voltage. well... we see later that the voltage for the CPU moves and its not a fixed value. but its interesting to see the voltage setup by the system for a fixed 4.2ghz frequency. also I notice that you have not setup the fabric clock (flck) to 1600 to matches the dram speed, so its not guarantee that this speed will matches the dram (and its certainly not the case, I have the same motherboard, and the fabric speed in auto is not good) for me this results in a difference of 2GB/s (down from 45gbs to 43gbs) in memory benchmarks and up to 47gbps after overclocking the ram from 1600mhz to 1666mhz
I think you missed what I said in the video. It says offset mode, but I changed it to manual mode set at 1.35 volts. I said it in the video? its not in offset mode, its in manual mode set to 1.35
Weird, the Fuma 2 is suppose to be a lot better than the Hyper 212 BE but on R20 I get a score of 4872 at these settings and Max temp of 73C. Have you tried running the CPU-Z stress test?
Today finished PC build. Asus Tuf X-570, Ryzen 5 3600 etc. First thing after updating windows 10 and getting all the drivers, I did cinebench r20 test, got 3444 cb and highest temp under load 70C , idle is 40C. Take a note I didnt use stock cooler. Used Noctua nh-u12s. Still I feel idle temp is high. Will try raise next to 4.2ghz and undervolt to 1.25V. In Bios/Uefi I see voltages constantly over 1.4V..does not make any sense to me.
I have been running the Ryzen 7 3700 for a year now with all kinds of load and only reaching 60c-65c at the highest. My problem when built was the inside case temps. Once I fixed that my highest temps is my RTX2060 GPU runnning at its highest of 79c. I am using the best stock cooler made that came with the chip. Had to add more 120m fans to cool the entire case.
3rd gen Ryzen seems more to have higher idle temps but umder load with decent cooling, the delta isn't what you'd expect for various reasons. I put a 240mm AIO on my 3600 and even Small FFTs in prime95 dont get it higjer than upper 60s C. Normal gaming and any rendering type workloads it doesnt go over 50 usually.
I am planning a new build and this is totally putting me off. Its not just AMD. Even the motherboards of various vendors are putting in their own descreet little tweaks to make their boards look good. Is it too much to ask for someone to want to run everything at stock settings without also having to check the bios and having to buy a fan separate from what is included with the CPU. I really would like suggestions as I just want to plug and go.
Turned off PBO and the core performance boost or the precision boost, idle temps are fixed at 32c -33c and hovering at 3.6 ghz while cpu fan is running at 37% at all times automatically. Got bequite dark rock 4 cooler and noctua nth-2 thermal paste. Before turning off the two options, idle temps were fluctuating between 42 to 48 at 4.2 ghz odd.
I'm not reading the comments, but I checked this video with my concerns on my temps (msi x570 ace + 3900x water cooled) and I saw your cinebench results at 5,000? I'm hitting 7000+ at stock settings with temps 55-68 I wanna keep it below 60 while normal gaming... I dont generally put everything on ultra and OC. So is there any update on this?
You're getting a better score because you're not undervolting and putting it to 99% powersaving settings like these guys. Also your temps are better because you're not using the Wraith Prism.
Hey guys. I have a ryzen 3700x. On stock idle I ran cpuz and the core seems to go up and down. Around base 3.6 to 4.3. I recently updated my bios on my x570 aorus elite and found that there is another option in bios called cpu ratio mode.
My Ryzen 5 3600 went up to 95 C with the stock cooler during Cinebench. As a matter of fact, Cinebench actually stopped running due to the heat. They sold the CPU with the WEAKEST stock cooler they make which ISN'T good enough. I had to throw an old Thermaltake Spin Q VT on it to keep it reasonable. It workes much better.
I have a ryzen 9 3900X and an ROG Strix x570e gaming mobo and I use the wraith prism too. My temps are super high. It worries me. Yesterday while playing Gears of War tactics in the cutscenes they would shoot up high 80’s and at one point I got to 92 and 95 degrees so I stopped playing altogether. Not sure what’s wrong. I turned down volts as well. I’ve looked at a lot of guides but nothing has helped me.
Great vid, I tried 4.2 GHZ CPU and 1.35v but with a wraith prisim I reached 82 degrees with cinebench r20 test (far too hot) and it sounds like a jet engine. Is this solely down to the Scythe Fuma 2? Also did you have to by CPU paste or did it come with paste? If so which paste did you use and what spread method did you apply with the paste? You earned a subscription BTW :)
I'm running my 3700x with the stock cooler at 4.3ghz all core at 1.25v, never gets higher than 61C. Scrape off the stock thermal pad, lap the cooler, put some artic silver on it.
Voltages are too high, you should try a static OC. It does mean you'll have less gains but AMD was too generous with voltage this time. I got better results on my 3600, 4.3GHz at 1.15V, turned out better temps and only slightly lower bench numbers.
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I'm trying to sort things out how to lower temperature with a custom watercooling solution on my 3700X. I previously had a Noctua NH-D15 that did a wonderfull job keeping it cool at idle 26-30 and full load rarely I was going beyond the 60/65°C ! Now it's a different story. I'm looking how to tweak things in order to have a beter temperature at idle. I hope it's not just a matter of screwing abit more or less the CPU plate . .. Currently I'm at 40°C idle and going beyond 70°C full load but sometimes reaching the 80/85 ! So this video helped me find a solution of some sort. Though I'm reaching 4.2GHz with 1.1V instead of 1.35 like you did. Can't understand why I'm so high. I'll keep searching.
Is the TX-04 a better cooler? I ask since i will buy a Ryzen 7 (gen 2) X series and i have the TX-04 on my current Phenon II x6. Would i be better with Ryzen stock or this that i have?
my ryzen 5 3600 was running overvoltage out of the box on the a320m-k motherboard. I had to undervoltage by 0.1V to stabalize it. with the stock cooler.
My computer is idling 3800X at fixed all-core 4.1Ghz, 40c. Under load (compiling, cinebench, deep learning) it hits 60c but only barely. Meanwhile my other computer with 3600X idles at 60c+ and goes to 70c under load. Both 3800x and 3600x have air cooler, noctua dh15s with 1 fan. Case is the same. Only difference is the motherboard. I think there may be some bios issue, which pumps way too much voltage to the processor - or something. The heatsink of the 3800x is cool to touch when idling, the heatsink of 3600x feels really hot. Contact between heatsink and CPU is also good. Edit: my cinebench 20 score is 4833 pts. Finished this time at 61c (it is hot day).
If u bought these zen 2 chips during release it was horrifying. Everyone was idling somewhere at 1.4v and idle temps were up the roof and jumping around like crazy. Now with newer bios and chipset updates things are pretty normal. As for the high temps, remember these are 7nm chips so they run friggin hot, expect 10c higher than ur previous ryzen gen or ur average intel chip.
I upgraded to the 3700X from a 2600 3 days ago and I was having 50 - 60C idle temps with the wraith cooler and cpu reaching the mid 80's in certain games and when exporting videos. Today I grabbed 240m Cooler Master liquid cooler for 75 USD and it's idling at 31C. I overclocked it to 4.3 ghz all cores with 1.25 core voltage and idling at 42C with stress test reaching 71C. I know this cpu runs hot by design and unfortunately the prism cooler doesn't really cut it. I know even when it reaches the high 80's it's within spec but the fan noise is annoying and it's a bit hot for my taste. The water cooler option was worth it for me.
Whats the diffrence between override and offset ??? Also i run my ryzen 3600 @4.1 with 1,275. My cooler is a beqiet shadow rock 2. Idle temps are 50 - 55. In games it go up to 78. I Use the ryzen balanced plan. Pbo is disabled and amd cool and quiet is aktive. I dont know what i can do to lower the temps ? Any tips.
I'm running my 3700x with stock cooler at 4.3ghz all core at 1.25 vcore with 34C idle, 61C full bore. Scraped the stock paste off the cooler, lapped the cooler, put a thin layer artic silver on both the CPU and cooler.
@@Britec09 I get that, but blend doesn't put the maximum stress on the CPU. You'll see WAY higher temps if you test it on small. I posted this on the other video, but it still applies here... I wasn't paying attention and didn't notice that you ran Prime95 on blend rather than small the first time I watched this, and I almost freaked out. I'm running the Fuma 2 with two Noctua redux fans and Noctua NT-H1 paste on my 3700X, and my temps were WAY higher (82 degrees after ten minutes), but of course I was running Prime95 on small. On blend with the fans at 100%, I'm sitting at 51 degrees after ten minutes, and I'm very happy with that. I'm kind of disappointed that you didn't run Prime95 on small. I'd like to know what the results would be with the stock fans and paste. I also have PBO enabled with all the performance settings turned on/maxed out depending on what the options are (Strix X470-F mobo) with the Ryzen high performance power plan running. Not sure if that makes a difference, but it probably does. Great video and it's nice to see a fellow Ryzen owner using the Fuma 2!
Thank you so much! My 3900x was idling @ 60°C and this fixed it instantly! I'm doing 40°C Avg with a stock cooler! FYI for those who try this and their CPU crashes under load. Lower the CPU Core Ratio to 40 and work your way up testing each increment with Cinebench R20 to find the best ratio for you! 40.75 was the sweet spot for me, anything higher and my system would crash.
I have a ryzen 3600, with a rx580 8gb, and a csse with not very good airflow, What cooler shell i go for, or am i ok with that, I basically am a sim racer so assetto corsa competizione is the most intense game, Im quite scared to go into the bios tbh
Hey, I just built my new pc yesterday. I found out that my ryzen 5 3600 was getting quite hot. The temps were sometimes above 80°C. So I'm wondering how I can set the cooler to the 'high' setting, if you know how to do that with the ryzen 5 3600 cooler. Otherwise I'll check the cooler and re-install it. Maybe I did something wrong.
@@dumfeldemfries I think yours might be the wraith spire cooler, I don't know if it has the hi/low settings like the prism, do a quick Google search. It might be worth re-seating it and checking the thermal paste was well covered, but not too much either. Also set up your uefi using some guides on here, at full turbo speeds mine (2700x) runs a little to hot for what i use it for so its set at 4ghz not 4.3. Assuming you have good airflow through your case too.
I've got the 3800x with the stock cooler. Just need to get some decent paste. Used gelid extreme and my temps idle are 38c and under full load 75c. 6case fans
3700x here, on the stock cooler. Idle fluctuates between 37c to 48c all the time, these ryzens just do that. When i play games then it sits at about 65c. Both are fine temps. I have the MSI Tomahawk Max b450 board. I did have to tweak the fan curves when i first got the system, since the fan was ramping up and down all the time, got to my nerves lol. So i set my idle rpm's to 1700(which imo isn't noisy at all), flat up to 60c, after that it ramps up a little. It normally sits at about 1850 - 2000rpm's when i game, pretty good imo. Btw my cpu is at stock speeds, more than enough for me as it is.
@@_thechosen It's on auto, i don't know what that means lol. I didn't touch anything other than fan curves and enabled the xmp profile or whatever it's called.
I had a Ryzen 5 1600 die on me when i overclocked it to 4.0 GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler after some months of usage. I need to use a AIO water cooler or aftermarket air cooler if i want to overclock.
my 3700x did 4600 with the wraith prism in cinebench r20 but it was realy noisy and the rpm where all over the place aswell the temps jump 10°C from one sec to the other ... now that i changed it with an 240 AIO from coolermaster the idle temps are 30-45 and load 60-75max .... still the cores are realy temperature sensitify even on watercooling
Great video! Seeing similar with my 3700X and Gigabyte Aorus Pro. Using a 360 AIO and temps are still in the low 40s for idle. Stock cooler was horrible for fan noise constantly ramping up and down. Built a friend's 3900x with Gigabyte MB and seemed much cooler. Noctua U12 Chromax as cooler. Going to try the 4.2 and undervolt on my system!
Well same here idles at 38-42 fluctuating. Ambient temperature is 30-32 And thats in a 420mm radiator 27mm thick open loop. But 3x nvme gen3 m.2 is running inside the loop. When I use blender in a 1.25v test @ 4.2ghz all core PBO off LCC 3 soc volt auto (if I tweak it it will not post). Max temp in blender test of prime95 us 85-91 degree running for 12hrs+ straight.
Stock cooler is decent it's a million times better than what Intel gives you. This wraith prism is as good as CM hyper 212 or DC Gammaxx 400 on single fan config. But the stock cooler fan is much more noiser well it's the real main issue of this fan. Here in my country people who uses stock wraith prism on 3700x idles near or above 50 degree and at summer it even reaches mid 50s or at noon time. That's why I'm also at 38-42 it keeps fluctuating a lot from 38 UpTo 42 degree's. But in cooling... Idle temp doesn't matter.. what matters is underload Max temps. Lowering max temp as possible will give you more performance.. and lower Max temp at Max performance further will give you silent system.
Can anybody please explain this to me: I have a Ryzen 5 3600 overclock to 3.90 GHZ running with the stock cooler (stealth cooler) with 2 case fan (front fan in take, back fan exhaust fan and one side of the case open) as soon as I start the computer afterburner program tells me that the cpu temp is 120°F on startup, idle mode. Sometimes 130°F WTF? is it that the stock cooler sucks? Is it that Ryzen 3000 series cpus are just Hot Chips by default? I had a Ryzen 7 2700x and I had the same problem even with Prism Cooler I used to get 120-140 F temps.
Silicon lottery tests show a 100% of 3800x's should hit 4.2ghz at 1.275v. You can undervolt even more cuz buildzoid did a fix voltage of 1.35 on his 3700x and it's already degrading. I'm currently running my 3800x at 4.2 at 1.275v
The wraith prism is crap bro, I have 3700x and it was the same upto 79°c. Now using Arctic freezer 2 280m AIO and highest temps hit under load is 52°C its a brilliant cooler. No RGB but thats no big deal for me i have RGB on everything else plus it has the added advantage of a VRM cooling fan and all for only £70
Temps on my 3900 are high for me. I would be freaking out if my old CPU ran that hot at idle. Then again, it was 4 core 8 thread. Though overclocked to 4.75 Ghz all core. 45 C idle with my 3900x. I may return it for a 3700 or 3800. I don't want to spend the cash for a decent loop to just keep the damn thing cool!
Sorry I missed video yesterday, so uploaded it today... Enjoy.
Hello man, had same issue with 3700x and just ordered Be Quiet Dark Rock 4! Thx!
I have an Amiga 1200 but PAL mode sux.
Can I do the same with the stock cooler?
I thought it was odd for my CPU to be running hot...thanks for the video!
Well if you don't hawe any
Ventilation in you tower
No CPU .. AMD or INTEL
Are made to run FLAT OUT
That's why Intel throttel down
A LOT!! ON STOCK COOLER!!!
What the screen shows soon after 4:14 does not match what is being said. "turned off precision boost overdrive" and yet the PBO settings are "auto", it is critical that that PBO is disabled.
This video helped me out a lot. I was going from 55c idle temp, to now running 55c at full load. Thanks so much.
It is not just the high temp, it is the speed at which it occurs, on a very high workload they shoot from idle temp about 48C to 85 in about 3 seconds. Never seen that on Ryzen first gen 1600.
I agree, the temps are all over the place, but with doing this, it stabilizes it a lot
im just install this and get from 39 to 65..... its so anoying
Put your computer on power saver
@@DavvolinniTheDude teach me how, I need this lol
@@SilverMiraii Don't do it, it limits your CPU
What your video doesn’t properly identify is how much of the change is down to the new cooler and how much is the larger cooler.
What were temps with the O/C and lower voltage, running the Wraith cooler?
i want the answer for this too!
12 minutes to say "get an aftermarket cooler."
12 minutes to say 'I monetised this video to the extreme'
Also undervolt the CPU and overclock
@@saminyead1233 This. I have an AIO and the overclock+undervolt dropped the average temps 10 degrees and I got better Cinebench results
He also said you had to reduce voltage, he explains why and how. Stop trash talking.
I was lucky to read it in the comments and skip the video.
I'm running my 3800X at 4.4Ghz @ 1.325 volts. I'm idling around 28°C and the highest temp I've seen thus far is 58°C. My best Cinebench R20 score is currently 5243.
under water?
@@Britec09 Yes, cooled via a custom open-loop.
@@OlettaLiano Which cpu block are you using? I'm running my 3700x at 4.25ghz@1.325v on a custom loop with a 420mm rad and prime95(non-AVX) is hitting around 80 degrees which I find is way too high considering my water temp is only 26C. I've tried re-seating the block multiple times to make sure I have good contact, but it doesn't seem to matter. It's starting to drive me crazy, starting to worry it's my block(ek supremacy evo).
@@glassius85 That does seem pretty hot. What kind of fans are on the radiator? I'm using a EKWB EK-Supremacy MX. My custom loop has 3 EKWB EK-CoolStream XE 360mm Radiators with 9 Noctua chromax black fans. I also lapped my 3800X and the waterblock so they make the best contact possible.
@@OlettaLiano 3x Corsair ML140 PRO. But seeing as the water temp is only 25-26C and the CPU instantly spikes to 80C under load I don't think it's the fans/radiator capacity that's the problem, it has to be the transfer from the CPU to the block. I've been thinking about lapping the cpu and block myself as that's the only way I can think of to improve the heat transfer between CPU and block since I'm already using Kryonaut as my TIM. Did you do any testing before/after lapping?
Hey man I have really been enjoying you tutorials. I have a 3800xt on a MSI x570 board and I have been having the same fluctuating temps. I tried your 4.2 at 1.35v setup and I was still having the same temp issues. Went back into BIOS and set it at 4.1 at 1.35v and she has stabilized at 41c. Thanks for all the videos. Way better than any customer service rep. All they want to do is RMA the board. Viewer for life.
Too many variables. Is it the tuning or the fan that reduced temps? A proper test should show each change in turn. Change the tuning with stock cooler, then add the new cooler with stock tuning, followed by the new cooler with the new tune. I'm guessing the fan may gave more to do with this than overclocking.
This video is spot on. Upgraded from a 2600 that was overclocked to 4.1ghz and only got 60c under stress using my Articfreezer eSports Duo. Same cooler on my 3700x and it's jumping all over the place going mid 70s and this is in a full size Coolmaster HAFX case.
It's not necessarily the CPU being hotter that's annoying, it's an 8 core 16 thread so that's got to be expected. The problem is how it jumps all over the place even at idle with fan noise ramping up and down constantly. After 3 days of trial and testing I completely agree with this guy's video. I'm overclocked to 4.1ghz with +0.08 on the voltage offset. The cinebench score is exactly the same (within a few points) as mine was only hitting 4.1ghz on all core boost anyway. It's now quiet and doesn't ramp up for no reason.
The only place you will lose out is if you're playing an old game that only uses a couple of cores where the CPU would have boosted a little higher. This is a tiny difference that isn't worth worrying about in my opinion.
Whatever cooler you are using, if you have Ryzen 7 or 9 3xxx series you should definitely follow this video.
I too had the 2600 with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black cooler that idled at 22C and never went past 60. It was a pre-built I bought about a year ago and 2 weeks ago I decided to build my first PC. I gave the pre-built to my little brother and bought the 3700X for my CPU. The 50 - 60C idle temps with the prism cooler and PBO enabled were very concerning to say the least because it was so different.
I tried to re-seat the cooler with similar temperature results. I decided to look into it and the 3000 series runs hotter than the previous generation. I don't know if the jumps from base clock to 4.3ghz are supposed to happen as frequently as they do but it's a common thing. The behavior of 3000 series CPU's with PBO enabled kind of reminds me of how GPU's run because they overclock on their own and run on high, all cores depending on the work load until they reach 85C and than start to throttle.
I realized that the Prism cooler while ok it isn't enough to dissipate heat fast enough to keep this cpu from thermal throttling if the CPU is under 100% load with PBO enabled. It can also be pretty loud. While at Micro Center I came a cross a 240mm Cooler Master AIO for 75 bucks and bought it. With PBO enabled the idle temps stay around 30 - 40C now and when rendering videos @ 100% load the temps hover around 65C. I tried an overclock of 4.4 ghz all cores with 1.25V and 75C was the highest I seen the temps go while rendering.
Long story short (I know not really lol) it turns out that higher cpu temps is within spec for these cpu's. Coming from the 2000 series of CPU's it does cause concern but it's within spec. The better the cooler the more you can keep these cpu's from hitting that 85C thermal throttle temps depending on the cpu load.
Sweet video!
I bet you can go 4.3ghz at 1.3~1.33v 👍
According to silicon lottery, almost all their samples of R7 3800X can do 4.3ghz at 1.3~1.32v
I will have a proper play with overclocking.
I had my 3700x running at 4.3ghz all core since day 1 at 1.25v. Hitting only 61C at full bore on the stock cooler. Scraped of the thermal pad, lapped the cooler, and replaced with some artic silver.
@@michaelkeudel8770
Try to launch Aida Fp-64 raytracing benchmark and tell me what happens, if your system completes the test and the max temp reached via hwinfo 64.
What power plan did you have? Windows power plan or AMD power plan?
Thanks for this, liked and subbed.
You have no idea how hard it was to find a simple, yet cohesive analysis like yours. Cheers!
what are you using to get these menus? I go into my bios and its the old style and I don't get all these neat features like this. I'm just trying to turn off turbo boost for my cpu.
I dont have cpu offset settings in gigabyte bios. B550m
Hey I have a b550m as well, we’re you able to figure out how to manually change the voltage on everything? I see where it says manual but doesn’t give me an option to type in a new voltage
1.3V+ is screaming chip degredation... I think the best way to find ur FIT is to put dumb values into ur 3 PBO settings *999 for example* run p95 for 10 mins, take note of the current voltage and thats ur max oc voltage. Now u hope u have decent silicon to jump those clockspeeds up
i have that same AUAS tuff motherboard with a 3600 cpu and on idle its like 50C getting up to 60 at times on idle i was like wtf.....but i will get this cooler....his video helps out a lot
same issue here, i also plan on getting a new cpu cooler
You said you turned off Precision Boost Overdrive and put it to None, but in the video when you went to the Precision Boost Overdrive screen, everything is still set at Auto. What I see put to None is the Performance Bias instead. So should I follow what I see on screen or rather follow what you said?
I've just built a system with the Ryzen 7 3600x and the idle temp fluctuates between 58C and 69C, more often at the higher end around 65C. Is this normal? I don't really wanna spend anymore money on a new fan. When installing the CPU I did struggle with installing the fan a bit though and the thermal paste got a bit thinned out due to moving the fan around, could this be contributing to the high temps?
I have the absolutely same problem but with a 3300x. It idles at 53-56, at gaming it goes to 80+, temps are chaotic, one second its 53, then without doing anything at all it goes to 67 for a second, then back down to 50.
Can you please tell me what values should I put in for the 3300x ? Stock cooler
Thank you, man! I was having trouble regarding temp fluctuations in idle mode. It got solved but hopefully, undervolting won't decrease my pc performance
Where do you modify the CPU voltage? I can't see it in the video
I have a 3700x, and I don't have nearly these high temps, so my 1st question is: what kind of case do you have? What is it's air-flow like? What's your motherboard (I see you have an x570, I have an MSI b450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC) ?Obviously an AIO is not being used considering you're featuring the wraith prism (which I also use, at high speed rpm). My 3700x on all cores at 4.2ghz never goes beyond 60 degrees celsius. Period. My case has 6 140mm fans...very good intake airflow from the front (mesh).
Thanks for the info. I plan to build a new rig in the spring, using either the 3700x or 3800x. And I was planning on using the stock cooler as well, but now I think may scratch that idea.
To the FRACK
CAN ANYONE USE THE STOCK COOLER
TO RUN A CPU FLAT OUT
ARE YOU MENTAL!!!
YOU CANT RUN ANY CPU AMD INTEL FLAT OUT
ON ANY STOCK COOLER WITH OUT
THERMAL THROTTELING ISIUES
DAMM HOW BIG A SPANNER IS IT POSSIBEL TO BE
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!! I had a little trouble with lowering the voltage (you should have shown how to manually set that btw), but I got it to 1.35 eventually. I have the Scythe Mugen5 CPU cooler, but was still getting erratic high temps and was even getting Core Temp warnings when running benchmarks (such as Cinebench R20 and SiSoftware Sandra Professional). I even tried the fan curve settings to no avail! But after using the settings you describe in the BIOS, my temps are very stable now without the high temp warnings. My Cinebench R20 score even improved up to 5032 after settings! I will be subscribing to your channel my friend!
Hi! How can I lowering the voltage? (I get lost in that part too)
@@LaloHermosillaHanus bios, it's called vcore
You can probably undervilt further to 1.25v.
Bro i have Ryzen 3 3100 but its temperature going above 75 on idle... I changed thermal paste to GD007 and changed the cpu cooler to LANSHUO 6 heat pipes cooler but it is still having same issue
What power plan are you using? Just got myself a 3700x, and the only way to get to 40°C is to change to power saver mode. Will follow your guide, once my new cooler has arrived.
would this solve high temp (jumping from 40s to 50s) and high clock speed ~4.0 GHz on idle?
I've got an AIO. I don't think these temps are normal on idle and the clock speed won't go down too.
It's driving me crazy
The Wraith coolers ROCK.
I'm running my Ryzen 3700 with it and even at pretty heavy loads, it never pushes up much past 60 degrees Celsius. Makes me think that people might be having some issues related to poor airflow in their cases or MAYBE... very high ambient temperatures.
I mean... I DID have it moving up to the 70 degrees Celsius, before I plopped one additional case fan, for pulling air out of the case.
dont have that bios ... in advanced mode why ? AMD 5800h asus a 15
Lower your SOC voltage to 1 V at that clock speed and memory frequency there’s no point it running at 1.1 V on the soc you will also notice no performance loss and also you will get a drop in temperature at the same time as reducing the risk of the degrading the memory controller
Did you test this?
Tomahawk B450 max Yes I did also if There is too much voltage is going into the SOC it will Degrade the IMC
@@blade4363 I keep mine at 0.9 on a 2700x with memory @ 3200. Stock was 1.1 aswell
slick1908 Very good because I think 1.1 vaults is a little bit on the high side I have a 3950 X at 4.5 GHz stable on a big water cooling system which I will be doing a video on my channel about soon and I’m also running mine at 0.9 V at 3600 MHz on the memory totally stable and no performance drop off
My R9 3900x was idling at 50C in the UEFI with a be quiet dark rock pro 4. Reseated the cooler, made sure it was making contact with enough thermal paste (arctic mx4), made sure both fans were blowing the same way. So it was drawing 1.480v on auto, I set it to manual 1.2v and temps dropped to 35-40C.
A few points I'd like to make... I'm running a 3700x, bone stock, with a Noctua NH-U14S cooler, and my CB20 score runs about 4,900. Not sure why your scores are so low... When you want to test temperatures, you need to run Prime95 Small FFTs - not Blend. Blend starts out with a large FFT, which doesn't generate nearly the heat a small FFT does... When you overclock to 4.2 GHz, you are losing your boost speeds, which can be as high as 4.5 GHz. This will improve your heavy workload scores, but any load that doesn't run all your cores at full throttle will be lower, because none of your cores will boost beyond 4.2 GHz. You need to run some lighter workload benchmarks... And finally, just because your system boots and can run some programs at 4.2 GHz/1.35 volts does not mean it is truly stable. You need to run several hours of tests, using several different kinds of workloads, to verify your overclock - Prime95 Blend, OCCT, Blender, etc...
I agree with you, Well i have a 3700X, there's a switch on prizm cooler that most people miss, there are two modes L ( default ) sets max rpm of 3000 and base of 1200. H mode with max rpm of 3300 rpm and base of 2000. However Mine runs at 3700-3800 rpm because i have two top and intake fans. @2000rpm.Amd should mention this onamual
I have the same cpu, I noticed the switch on the cooler, which is best settings?
CPU is now as hot as you! Nice and cold!
Mok Mok Fish lmao nice one
Thank you. I thought I only have that problem 3800x with prism cooler nonOC. Temps were 50-60 just alternating. And when playing games it goes 70-80
I have this problem too bro
My idle is 50C and when i playing game my temp is 65-75
My idle on a 3600 jumps from 30s to 60s randomly. normally between 30s-40s. I have an EVGA CLC 240 and in the process of setting up this build with all of the doodads I need.
With Ryzen you have to throw away the stock cooler, slap in a real high powered one. Either that, or undervolt, underclock, reduce power etc and handicap it so it doesn't turn into Fukashima.
Ali Sepehr is it ok to play game with this temp?
That's sounds great compared to mine my is at 95°c
Does the Wraith cooler on the 3600 also have a switch on it's side to set the fan speed even higher?
bro, i want to change my voltage to 1.35V (offset mode) but i dont understand and i dont know how to please help
Would this apply to a 3900xt(12core) cpu?
I don't have stock cooler and I still get jumps from doing literally nothing. Though when i'm just in BIOS it's a constant 30 C.
I went into BIOS and my core voltage was at 1.030 ish which is significanlty lower than even your undervolted settings. There was a lot of auto on "vcore loadout" and auto on "CPU performance booster" or whatever it was called. I don't know what to touch and not to touch, but clearly if you change some of those autos it will probably solve the problem... I have auros b550m pro, if that helps.
I prefer to use an AIO and exhaust ALL the cpu heat out of the case before it even enters. The graphics card is a lot harder to cool when using a cpu air cooler now a days and the gpu usually runs the hotter of the two components.
This is safe ? For warranty pls reply
So, going from 14 nm to 7 nm on the CPU thus pushing the components into a denser state, doesn't make the temps any higher; interesting theory.
Thanks Brian. After I had talked to you yesterday, I did a video. I think after all the editing, it was less then two minutes long. When I rendered it, I ran hardware monitor in the background and as you know, we put the bios back to stock settings. With this cpu and the rest of my components, Davinci resolve 16 works like a champ now. The render was quick, like maybe a minute. I was watching hardware monitor as I was rendering it and in that short time, it go as high as 87c. Wow that is to toasty for sure. My Scythe fuma 2 is on the way.
87C WOW that is hot. When you get Scythe Fuma 2, you should see lower temps.
@@Britec09 I hope so.
I just installed this one the asus x570-plus wifi board. Idle is 45-50c installing windows went up to 71c. I don't like 😞
which is the most important cpu temp in hwinfo?
sorry, but you have not changed or forced the voltage, its still in auto mode.
you can cool down the CPU by just setting up a delta of -0.1 volt setting.
so, for exemple, when the cpu needs 1.33v, the -0.1 will results in 1.23v
and you can keep the automatic frequency activated instead of fixing at 4.2ghz.
for 4.2 you can certainly do this undervoltage and be even cooler... or undervolt and increase the frequency.
also, in my case, I'm using the ryzen master tool to control this.
no need to reboot (except the -0.1 volt setting)
I can switch from a cool or PBO profile, to an intensive profile (4.35ghz all core for my 3700x, which is insame and with the default cooler!!!) without any reboot.
with all the bios and AMD drivers up to date, its even better now.
?? the voltage setting is in manual mode, at 1.35 volts, that is unvolting. Take no notice of the offset like I said in the video, its set to manual. If you just undervolt, you lose a lot of benchmark score.
@@Britec09 the 1.35v in the video is for the RAM.
the CPU itself is set to offset mode without any offset value setup.
at 5:41
ua-cam.com/video/FmuSVnciFTo/v-deo.html
which is automatic voltage (+ or - an offset value you choose), not manual / fixed voltage.
well... we see later that the voltage for the CPU moves and its not a fixed value.
but its interesting to see the voltage setup by the system for a fixed 4.2ghz frequency.
also I notice that you have not setup the fabric clock (flck) to 1600 to matches the dram speed, so its not guarantee that this speed will matches the dram (and its certainly not the case, I have the same motherboard, and the fabric speed in auto is not good)
for me this results in a difference of 2GB/s (down from 45gbs to 43gbs) in memory benchmarks
and up to 47gbps after overclocking the ram from 1600mhz to 1666mhz
I think you missed what I said in the video. It says offset mode, but I changed it to manual mode set at 1.35 volts. I said it in the video? its not in offset mode, its in manual mode set to 1.35
Weird, the Fuma 2 is suppose to be a lot better than the Hyper 212 BE but on R20 I get a score of 4872 at these settings and Max temp of 73C. Have you tried running the CPU-Z stress test?
Today finished PC build. Asus Tuf X-570, Ryzen 5 3600 etc. First thing after updating windows 10 and getting all the drivers, I did cinebench r20 test, got 3444 cb and highest temp under load 70C , idle is 40C.
Take a note I didnt use stock cooler. Used Noctua nh-u12s.
Still I feel idle temp is high.
Will try raise next to 4.2ghz and undervolt to 1.25V.
In Bios/Uefi I see voltages constantly over 1.4V..does not make any sense to me.
Your score is too low. Unless you are running crap ddr4 something is wrong. With 3200 ram, stock cooler ( open air) i got 3650 cinebench r20 score
@@slick1908 i dont know why score is low. I have ddr4 3200 16
mine is R5 3600 what voltage should i use for overclocking to 4ghz or 4.2ghz? my ideal temps are on 53 degree with stock cooler
for 4.2 u should go for 1.3 and test it with aida64 or cinebench and then lower it a bit more till it crashes
I have been running the Ryzen 7 3700 for a year now with all kinds of load and only reaching 60c-65c at the highest. My problem when built was the inside case temps. Once I fixed that my highest temps is my RTX2060 GPU runnning at its highest of 79c. I am using the best stock cooler made that came with the chip. Had to add more 120m fans to cool the entire case.
3rd gen Ryzen seems more to have higher idle temps but umder load with decent cooling, the delta isn't what you'd expect for various reasons. I put a 240mm AIO on my 3600 and even Small FFTs in prime95 dont get it higjer than upper 60s C. Normal gaming and any rendering type workloads it doesnt go over 50 usually.
I am planning a new build and this is totally putting me off. Its not just AMD. Even the motherboards of various vendors are putting in their own descreet little tweaks to make their boards look good.
Is it too much to ask for someone to want to run everything at stock settings without also having to check the bios and having to buy a fan separate from what is included with the CPU.
I really would like suggestions as I just want to plug and go.
AMD should spend more money to produce 6 heat pipes for X version cpu
Turned off PBO and the core performance boost or the precision boost, idle temps are fixed at 32c -33c and hovering at 3.6 ghz while cpu fan is running at 37% at all times automatically. Got bequite dark rock 4 cooler and noctua nth-2 thermal paste. Before turning off the two options, idle temps were fluctuating between 42 to 48 at 4.2 ghz odd.
Well. It wont go over 3.6ghz either. Which means you lose alot of performance...
@@epp9122 yeah that's right, but I would rather see lower and stable temp then high fluctuations.
I'm not reading the comments, but I checked this video with my concerns on my temps (msi x570 ace + 3900x water cooled) and I saw your cinebench results at 5,000? I'm hitting 7000+ at stock settings with temps 55-68 I wanna keep it below 60 while normal gaming... I dont generally put everything on ultra and OC. So is there any update on this?
You're getting a better score because you're not undervolting and putting it to 99% powersaving settings like these guys. Also your temps are better because you're not using the Wraith Prism.
Hey guys. I have a ryzen 3700x. On stock idle I ran cpuz and the core seems to go up and down. Around base 3.6 to 4.3. I recently updated my bios on my x570 aorus elite and found that there is another option in bios called cpu ratio mode.
My Ryzen 5 3600 went up to 95 C with the stock cooler during Cinebench. As a matter of fact, Cinebench actually stopped running due to the heat. They sold the CPU with the WEAKEST stock cooler they make which ISN'T good enough. I had to throw an old Thermaltake Spin Q VT on it to keep it reasonable. It workes much better.
wow....how much do you get on idle ?
I have a ryzen 9 3900X and an ROG Strix x570e gaming mobo and I use the wraith prism too. My temps are super high. It worries me. Yesterday while playing Gears of War tactics in the cutscenes they would shoot up high 80’s and at one point I got to 92 and 95 degrees so I stopped playing altogether. Not sure what’s wrong. I turned down volts as well. I’ve looked at a lot of guides but nothing has helped me.
Same problem did you find the solution
Great vid, I tried 4.2 GHZ CPU and 1.35v but with a wraith prisim I reached 82 degrees with cinebench r20 test (far too hot) and it sounds like a jet engine. Is this solely down to the Scythe Fuma 2? Also did you have to by CPU paste or did it come with paste? If so which paste did you use and what spread method did you apply with the paste? You earned a subscription BTW :)
I'm running my 3700x with the stock cooler at 4.3ghz all core at 1.25v, never gets higher than 61C. Scrape off the stock thermal pad, lap the cooler, put some artic silver on it.
I have no issue problem. I have proper gaming tower case with cooler solution so wouldn't need aftermarket cpu cooler/heatsink.
Voltages are too high, you should try a static OC. It does mean you'll have less gains but AMD was too generous with voltage this time. I got better results on my 3600, 4.3GHz at 1.15V, turned out better temps and only slightly lower bench numbers.
hi Brian thanks for your valuable videos. is it possible to transfer IDM license to another pc? please let me know, thanks
Please note that IDM has per computer license. In order to use IDM on several computers at the same time please obtain licenses for each one. That is from there site.
Britec09 thanks actually I bought a new computer so old one I’m not gonna use so I just want to move on new one
I'm trying to sort things out how to lower temperature with a custom watercooling solution on my 3700X. I previously had a Noctua NH-D15 that did a wonderfull job keeping it cool at idle 26-30 and full load rarely I was going beyond the 60/65°C ! Now it's a different story. I'm looking how to tweak things in order to have a beter temperature at idle. I hope it's not just a matter of screwing abit more or less the CPU plate . .. Currently I'm at 40°C idle and going beyond 70°C full load but sometimes reaching the 80/85 ! So this video helped me find a solution of some sort. Though I'm reaching 4.2GHz with 1.1V instead of 1.35 like you did. Can't understand why I'm so high. I'll keep searching.
Weird, my 3700x no overclocking gets a better Cinebench score than yours in the video. 3.6GHz with score of 4815 max temp hit 71 with wraith prism
@Klip One lol you're probably overclocked Im guessing.
I have a Ryzen 5 3600x please could you help me what should I change the settings to?
how much is the temp of your cpu??
Amine MoudjaHed I just want to know what voltage to set to and clock. As it’s the x non the normal
Is the TX-04 a better cooler? I ask since i will buy a Ryzen 7 (gen 2) X series and i have the TX-04 on my current Phenon II x6. Would i be better with Ryzen stock or this that i have?
will it fit AM4?
I'm not positive, on the box it say AM3+, how ever my doubt is if AM4 uses the same mount mechanism as AM3+
my ryzen 5 3600 was running overvoltage out of the box on the a320m-k motherboard. I had to undervoltage by 0.1V to stabalize it. with the stock cooler.
My computer is idling 3800X at fixed all-core 4.1Ghz, 40c. Under load (compiling, cinebench, deep learning) it hits 60c but only barely. Meanwhile my other computer with 3600X idles at 60c+ and goes to 70c under load. Both 3800x and 3600x have air cooler, noctua dh15s with 1 fan. Case is the same. Only difference is the motherboard. I think there may be some bios issue, which pumps way too much voltage to the processor - or something. The heatsink of the 3800x is cool to touch when idling, the heatsink of 3600x feels really hot. Contact between heatsink and CPU is also good.
Edit: my cinebench 20 score is 4833 pts. Finished this time at 61c (it is hot day).
If u bought these zen 2 chips during release it was horrifying. Everyone was idling somewhere at 1.4v and idle temps were up the roof and jumping around like crazy. Now with newer bios and chipset updates things are pretty normal. As for the high temps, remember these are 7nm chips so they run friggin hot, expect 10c higher than ur previous ryzen gen or ur average intel chip.
I upgraded to the 3700X from a 2600 3 days ago and I was having 50 - 60C idle temps with the wraith cooler and cpu reaching the mid 80's in certain games and when exporting videos. Today I grabbed 240m Cooler Master liquid cooler for 75 USD and it's idling at 31C. I overclocked it to 4.3 ghz all cores with 1.25 core voltage and idling at 42C with stress test reaching 71C.
I know this cpu runs hot by design and unfortunately the prism cooler doesn't really cut it. I know even when it reaches the high 80's it's within spec but the fan noise is annoying and it's a bit hot for my taste. The water cooler option was worth it for me.
I'm running my 3700x at the same specs as you on the stock cooler, 34C idle, 61C full bore.
Whats the diffrence between override and offset ??? Also i run my ryzen 3600 @4.1 with 1,275. My cooler is a beqiet shadow rock 2. Idle temps are 50 - 55. In games it go up to 78. I Use the ryzen balanced plan. Pbo is disabled and amd cool and quiet is aktive. I dont know what i can do to lower the temps ? Any tips.
I run 3600 at stok with noctua nh d15 idle 28 to 35c in gaming 55-65c
@@intech7863 how do u manage to do that
I'm running my 3700x with stock cooler at 4.3ghz all core at 1.25 vcore with 34C idle, 61C full bore. Scraped the stock paste off the cooler, lapped the cooler, put a thin layer artic silver on both the CPU and cooler.
guys do you think a deepcool neptwin is enought for my ryzen 3800x in stock? im from brazil and those scythe coolers are too expensive here.
What's a good cooler for the locked models?
Man I runing at 4.4 at 1.28 drop that down to 1.28 and see if its stable. It runs nice and cool about 60-70c for a 3900x.
Thanks for the advice bro, I've got a 3900x that runs hot I'm gonna try this
Damn that's pretty good silicon luck.
Im gonna try this now
Ive seen alot of people in the comments sating that it worked
You're still running Prime95 on blend. Try it on small and see what happens.
I used blend on both benchmarks so you can see the differences.
@@Britec09 I get that, but blend doesn't put the maximum stress on the CPU. You'll see WAY higher temps if you test it on small. I posted this on the other video, but it still applies here...
I wasn't paying attention and didn't notice that you ran Prime95 on blend rather than small the first time I watched this, and I almost freaked out. I'm running the Fuma 2 with two Noctua redux fans and Noctua NT-H1 paste on my 3700X, and my temps were WAY higher (82 degrees after ten minutes), but of course I was running Prime95 on small. On blend with the fans at 100%, I'm sitting at 51 degrees after ten minutes, and I'm very happy with that. I'm kind of disappointed that you didn't run Prime95 on small. I'd like to know what the results would be with the stock fans and paste. I also have PBO enabled with all the performance settings turned on/maxed out depending on what the options are (Strix X470-F mobo) with the Ryzen high performance power plan running. Not sure if that makes a difference, but it probably does. Great video and it's nice to see a fellow Ryzen owner using the Fuma 2!
Thank you so much! My 3900x was idling @ 60°C and this fixed it instantly! I'm doing 40°C Avg with a stock cooler!
FYI for those who try this and their CPU crashes under load. Lower the CPU Core Ratio to 40 and work your way up testing each increment with Cinebench R20 to find the best ratio for you!
40.75 was the sweet spot for me, anything higher and my system would crash.
I have a ryzen 3600, with a rx580 8gb, and a csse with not very good airflow, What cooler shell i go for, or am i ok with that,
I basically am a sim racer so assetto corsa competizione is the most intense game,
Im quite scared to go into the bios tbh
running 78c idle as we speak.. i tried everything, nothing works -.-
Have you tried reducing cpu voltage?
You have you wraith prism on it's low setting on the actual unit, on high it will go up to 3700rpm.
Hey, I just built my new pc yesterday. I found out that my ryzen 5 3600 was getting quite hot. The temps were sometimes above 80°C. So I'm wondering how I can set the cooler to the 'high' setting, if you know how to do that with the ryzen 5 3600 cooler. Otherwise I'll check the cooler and re-install it. Maybe I did something wrong.
@@dumfeldemfries I think yours might be the wraith spire cooler, I don't know if it has the hi/low settings like the prism, do a quick Google search. It might be worth re-seating it and checking the thermal paste was well covered, but not too much either. Also set up your uefi using some guides on here, at full turbo speeds mine (2700x) runs a little to hot for what i use it for so its set at 4ghz not 4.3. Assuming you have good airflow through your case too.
@@HalfdeadRider Thanks, I'll do some research
for a quick solution, change power options in windows to power saver.
Just bought R5 3500x . When not under load it's temp. is around 55℃ ! But when I play PUBG at ultra it rises to 90℃ !
Give me some tips to manage it
Same thing happens to me but i have Ryzen 7 3700x
What paste are you using ?
Salman Ismail there is already paste on it
I recently got an asus mobo and 3800x. I put the voltage to 1.25v and it runs a lot cooler
I also enabled pbo
@@Sol-su2mi PBO isn't good to reduce heat...It's called OVERDRIVE for a reason lol. My temps got a lot more stable when I disabled that in BIOS
@@Enderplays12 What PBO does?
I've got the 3800x with the stock cooler. Just need to get some decent paste. Used gelid extreme and my temps idle are 38c and under full load 75c. 6case fans
According to NZXT CAM my ryzen 3800x are showing from 45-60 °C at idle...no matter what fan speeds
Look at temps with Ryzen master, way more accurate, i also had really high idle temps with Nzxt cam
Same with mine and the fans are at 2500rpm. Did u find a fix?
While everyone is gloryfing AMD for it's competitive products,but still it hasn't been able to overcome it's long dreaded heating issues
3700x here, on the stock cooler. Idle fluctuates between 37c to 48c all the time, these ryzens just do that. When i play games then it sits at about 65c. Both are fine temps. I have the MSI Tomahawk Max b450 board.
I did have to tweak the fan curves when i first got the system, since the fan was ramping up and down all the time, got to my nerves lol. So i set my idle rpm's to 1700(which imo isn't noisy at all), flat up to 60c, after that it ramps up a little. It normally sits at about 1850 - 2000rpm's when i game, pretty good imo. Btw my cpu is at stock speeds, more than enough for me as it is.
Did you disable Precision Boost Override?
@@_thechosen It's on auto, i don't know what that means lol. I didn't touch anything other than fan curves and enabled the xmp profile or whatever it's called.
I had a Ryzen 5 1600 die on me when i overclocked it to 4.0 GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler after some months of usage. I need to use a AIO water cooler or aftermarket air cooler if i want to overclock.
U shouldnt even overclocking u asking it to brake lol
well ya the stock coolers aren't meant for OCing anything so if you OCed with a stock cooler then your fault
my 3700x did 4600 with the wraith prism in cinebench r20 but it was realy noisy and the rpm where all over the place aswell the temps jump 10°C from one sec to the other ... now that i changed it with an 240 AIO from coolermaster the idle temps are 30-45 and load 60-75max .... still the cores are realy temperature sensitify even on watercooling
my idol temps seam to be 30°c in bios.
Yeah well mine is at 94°c big prob
@@EP-yj1hf 94 on idle?
Good video, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Great video! Seeing similar with my 3700X and Gigabyte Aorus Pro. Using a 360 AIO and temps are still in the low 40s for idle. Stock cooler was horrible for fan noise constantly ramping up and down. Built a friend's 3900x with Gigabyte MB and seemed much cooler. Noctua U12 Chromax as cooler. Going to try the 4.2 and undervolt on my system!
Well same here idles at 38-42 fluctuating.
Ambient temperature is 30-32
And thats in a 420mm radiator 27mm thick open loop.
But 3x nvme gen3 m.2 is running inside the loop.
When I use blender in a 1.25v test @ 4.2ghz all core PBO off LCC 3 soc volt auto (if I tweak it it will not post).
Max temp in blender test of prime95 us 85-91 degree running for 12hrs+ straight.
Stock cooler is decent it's a million times better than what Intel gives you.
This wraith prism is as good as CM hyper 212 or DC Gammaxx 400 on single fan config.
But the stock cooler fan is much more noiser well it's the real main issue of this fan.
Here in my country people who uses stock wraith prism on 3700x idles near or above 50 degree and at summer it even reaches mid 50s or at noon time.
That's why I'm also at 38-42 it keeps fluctuating a lot from 38 UpTo 42 degree's.
But in cooling... Idle temp doesn't matter.. what matters is underload Max temps.
Lowering max temp as possible will give you more performance.. and lower Max temp at Max performance further will give you silent system.
Did you happen to see what your temps were in Ryzen Master?
@Klip One negative according to few different sources and my set up, hw monitor reads higher temps than ryzen Master.
@@MrNoOne-fp5zi I agree with this. idk what gives
@Klip One hwmonitor is a bit finnicky with Ryzen because it's giving instruction calls to the CPU, increasing the temps.
Can anybody please explain this to me: I have a Ryzen 5 3600 overclock to 3.90 GHZ running with the stock cooler (stealth cooler) with 2 case fan (front fan in take, back fan exhaust fan and one side of the case open) as soon as I start the computer afterburner program tells me that the cpu temp is 120°F on startup, idle mode. Sometimes 130°F WTF? is it that the stock cooler sucks? Is it that Ryzen 3000 series cpus are just Hot Chips by default? I had a Ryzen 7 2700x and I had the same problem even with Prism Cooler I used to get 120-140 F temps.
check temps in bios and also voltage if there stupidly high re seat cooler and try again
Silicon lottery tests show a 100% of 3800x's should hit 4.2ghz at 1.275v. You can undervolt even more cuz buildzoid did a fix voltage of 1.35 on his 3700x and it's already degrading. I'm currently running my 3800x at 4.2 at 1.275v
Going to try this on my new 3700x without changing the cooler if possible tho lol. Had all the parts since black friday, been too lazy to build it lol
Build it, you will enjoy it.
The wraith prism is crap bro, I have 3700x and it was the same upto 79°c. Now using Arctic freezer 2 280m AIO and highest temps hit under load is 52°C its a brilliant cooler. No RGB but thats no big deal for me i have RGB on everything else plus it has the added advantage of a VRM cooling fan and all for only £70
@@YorkshireTripper You cannot really compare stock with good AIO cooler bro... it's not fair for poor AMD stock fan!
@@YorkshireTripper Are you legit comparing a fan with a 280mm liquid ratiator?
You running 1.35v on the ram in offset mode on auto you did't change anything lmfao
he undervolted a cpu, not ram
Temps on my 3900 are high for me. I would be freaking out if my old CPU ran that hot at idle. Then again, it was 4 core 8 thread. Though overclocked to 4.75 Ghz all core. 45 C idle with my 3900x. I may return it for a 3700 or 3800. I don't want to spend the cash for a decent loop to just keep the damn thing cool!
Just get a Dark Rock Pro 4,etc.
4.75?? What are you running ln2?
That boi toasty