Great analogy. I know I'm that calmness. While we were in that practise I relaxed my visual field and could feel the dilation you speak about, and being honest it startled me a little in a fascinated way ❤
@@difficult_to_describe it extends to all the senses, the whole experience is like “feeling through a fisheye lens”….that sounds like nonsense but best way I can describe. Also would you describe all thought as contraction? As when I’m in awareness but waiting for a thought I feel like the experience is mildly contracted like I’m in a thought/waiting process….possibly getting tied up in “trying” to meditate myself “there”.
@@norfolkyeti I'd say thought is just thought. The felt reality of the separate subject/thinker is what felt contracted to me. The urgency/waiting is just a thought which will go away when this clarifies :)
So the static observer feels always here but separate from everything even itself as thought or sensation “inside “ and perceptions “outside “..And what your saying is the awareness is both, so it’s not Exclusively observing right?
@@MaryaJohn-x5n Yeah inquiry is pretty much looking for separation in experience and not finding it 😂 So I can't find any real separation in experience anywhere other than a thought 🙂
It seems the thoughts appear after a sensation arises in the body. When i go to the sensation itself, ( let’s call it energy) the thoughts and narrative can be seen and become just “all of it”. Although there seems to be no control over the conditioning, it does seem like something is recognizing the sensations and the following stories. Just another story I guess,but mostly they aren’t believable anymore and a strong sense that nothing is happening or has ever happenend😊
@@maryrosemitchell9682 Nice one. For me it feels like that something that is recognising is in the sensation. So the senses, the sensations are recognising themselves as a "flavour" of awareness 🙂
And the need to analyze, search for meaning, or figure out something still arises sometimes strong and then becoming like a distant mist that is just “part of the landscape” of what i can’t describe. It seems like it gets “emptied out” into emptiness. I applaud you for putting into words what can’t really be expressed. Thank you!!
Your comments on the nature of the thought process strike to the essence of self discovery, in my opinion. It is however, challenging to accept that who I think I am is only an idea. I find that I slip into the thought process, and then catch myself. Sometimes it feels like it's a struggle, while at other times it I feel like I am able to remind myself more often that I don't have to fall into identifying with the thoughts.
@@erniejohnson7636 I get you with it being a struggle sometimes and easier others. I found in the evening when I was tired, the mind was quieter. I enquired mostly on my walk home from work, having the enjoyment of walking, the scenery and the senstation being the main focus at the time, with inquiry being something I was doing in a relaxed way with no strong agenda. It was a huge difference from before when I would sit down and try not to think 😂 the relaxed intention and the enjoyment factor really changed things for me.
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Your videos are helping me clarify alot thank you
@@JasonLeddy Awesome :)
Great analogy. I know I'm that calmness.
While we were in that practise I relaxed my visual field and could feel the dilation you speak about, and being honest it startled me a little in a fascinated way ❤
@@norfolkyeti That's awesome. It is a bit strange and scary but that reaction will calm down and it will become all fascination 🙂
@@difficult_to_describe it extends to all the senses, the whole experience is like “feeling through a fisheye lens”….that sounds like nonsense but best way I can describe.
Also would you describe all thought as contraction? As when I’m in awareness but waiting for a thought I feel like the experience is mildly contracted like I’m in a thought/waiting process….possibly getting tied up in “trying” to meditate myself “there”.
@@norfolkyeti I'd say thought is just thought. The felt reality of the separate subject/thinker is what felt contracted to me.
The urgency/waiting is just a thought which will go away when this clarifies :)
So the static observer feels always here but separate from everything even itself as thought or sensation “inside “ and perceptions “outside “..And what your saying is the awareness is both, so it’s not Exclusively observing right?
@@MaryaJohn-x5n Yeah inquiry is pretty much looking for separation in experience and not finding it 😂 So I can't find any real separation in experience anywhere other than a thought 🙂
It seems the thoughts appear after a sensation arises in the body. When i go to the sensation itself, ( let’s call it energy) the thoughts and narrative can be seen and become just “all of it”. Although there seems to be no control over the conditioning, it does seem like something is recognizing the sensations and the following stories. Just another story I guess,but mostly they aren’t believable anymore and a strong sense that nothing is happening or has ever happenend😊
@@maryrosemitchell9682 Nice one. For me it feels like that something that is recognising is in the sensation. So the senses, the sensations are recognising themselves as a "flavour" of awareness 🙂
@@difficult_to_describe wow that’s powerful. It literally brought a tear to my eye.
And the need to analyze, search for meaning, or figure out something still arises sometimes strong and then becoming like a distant mist that is just “part of the landscape” of what i can’t describe. It seems like it gets “emptied out” into emptiness. I applaud you for putting into words what can’t really be expressed. Thank you!!
Your comments on the nature of the thought process strike to the essence of self discovery, in my opinion. It is however, challenging to accept that who I think I am is only an idea. I find that I slip into the thought process, and then catch myself. Sometimes it feels like it's a struggle, while at other times it I feel like I am able to remind myself more often that I don't have to fall into identifying with the thoughts.
@@erniejohnson7636 I get you with it being a struggle sometimes and easier others. I found in the evening when I was tired, the mind was quieter. I enquired mostly on my walk home from work, having the enjoyment of walking, the scenery and the senstation being the main focus at the time, with inquiry being something I was doing in a relaxed way with no strong agenda. It was a huge difference from before when I would sit down and try not to think 😂 the relaxed intention and the enjoyment factor really changed things for me.
Inherent impersonal self-awareness?
@@vidaphoenix9574 Yes awareness without a subject 🙂❤️