A good instructional video. I have watched so many "how to" videos made by folk who do not know how to or just ignore makers instructions. One guy demonstrated the use of a Kelly kettle having not removed the cork bung before lighting and by lifting the kettle off the base when hot by putting the handle and his hand directly over the flue (ie. an open flame). This was despite the fact that the kettle came with full instructions not to mention the makers instructional vidio on UA-cam. Beyond belief! So folks light your woodgas stove this way - it works.
I love this video! It is frustrating that so many video reviews of this type of stove show the 'wrong' way to use them. These wonderful little stoves get a lot of unjustified criticism, because folks don't know how to get the best from them. Here in the UK (and probably in many other countries) an excellent cheap source of 'Wood Pellet' fuel is Wood Based Cat Litter. (Fresh, not used, of Course!) :)
David Longster Heh heh, you made me chuckle out loud. Actually, it was a guy using the little wood pellets that made me realize how powerful this stove can be. And I agree--the frustration of really good, good bushcrafters not know basic "fire anatomy" is kind of frustrating. Thanks so much for your good words. Jules.
I just came from a camping trip and used this stove for the first time. I didn't see your video before hand but was pleased with how it burned. I definitely will try your method.
Jeepers, thanks for that nice comment. Since then I’ve made a double coffee can stove and it works even better. Easier to keep going because it’s just a little bit bigger. I showed on a couple of my more recent videos if you’re ever bored and addicted to wood gas stoves.....
Great video... and good job! I have watched (on UA-cam) so many people incorrectly using 'wood gas' stoves (& then complaining about them) that I even went out of my way to make a video explaining how wood gas technology works, and how to correctly load & light the stove; hence, the acronym TLUD -- top "LIT" updraft stove.
+aztiger1 Hi aztiger1-- Sorry I didn't see your great great comment about the woodgas stove until now (you wrote that 8 months ago--that's a whole life time, sorry). Yeah, I LOVE that idea of yours, "TLUD." In fact, any more I've found that I make all my little fires TLUD--even little campfires, and fires in my hunting camp wood stove. I'm going to look up your video, thanks! Jules
like u i have seen many people on youtube use the wild stove wrong after watching your vid i collected and cut the smallest of twigs filled my wild stove i used it for the first time tonight, lit it and left it, i got one hours burn and after it went out no mess everything so clean and the smallest amount of ash which could have been used with a little water to clean the pans, all brilliant fantastic piece of kit
Heh heh, thanks so much--both for watching and for telling me about your experience. The makers of that little stove must get so frustrated when they see folks piling on the sticks over the top... :D Thanks so very much, Jules.
Heh heh, your comment made me chuckle out loud. It's fascinating to see really competent woodsmen out there misusing this stove.... There's a fantastic channel, "woodgasstove" or something like that, where the man beautifully machines a variety of these. Great craftsmanship. Thanks for your comment. Jules
Yeah thanks for your video,just got my stove today,and loaded it the way you show in your video,and i am pleased to say i got nearly the same results,even while using some slightly damp sticks, burns very hot ! the flames look just like on a cooking stove. i think i will try wood pellets to see if they will work as well? Thanks, Charles
+c shackleford Hi Charles, (and sorry for the tardy response): Thanks so much for your comment on the wood gas stove. I hope you tried the pellets. It actually was putting pellets in (after wanting to destroy the stove....) that helped me realize how to properly load these stoves. I was lazy the other day, and only took up the base of the stove on a trek, and loaded it up like an "upsidedown" fire. The holes in the bottom of the stove help create an amazingly hot little, efficient fire! Interesting. .....On the other end of the spectrum, I'm getting into winter camping now, and have just gotten a little Kni-Co- wood stove. Learning how to use that has helped me really understand these other smaller stoves. Ah, fire! Thanks so much for your interest. Jules
I absolutely love how your cat has so much trust in you that you can bang away making all that noise and he or she just lays right there still. That's cool.
Heh heh, thanks so much for your comment. (and sorry for the late response!) Yup, that cat's the best, but TOTALLY unaware of fire. She's burned her dear tail many a time.
I have a $17 Chinese knock-off version of this stove and I think it is one of the best stoves out there. Like you I had to learn how to properly use it. Not that it is hard to use, but there is right way and a wrong way to use this stove. What I really like about this stove is that it has such a low impact on the environment when compared to any other stove. Nice, video.
+Chip Sanford Thanks so much, Chip. Yup--in fact, on lazy days, I have taken to just taking that bottom stand ring up on my day hikes, and using it as a little fire-ring. Burns like almighty! Say---I mean to always say I like that airplane in your logo picture. I come from a long line of flyers.... Jules
Hi Jules! This is a very convincing demonstration. Quite amazing how little wood will last so long without anything to do in the meantime while it's burning along. I'm learning to love it :o) Best greetings, Tim
Hey, my Tim! Thanks so much. This little thing is like a fickle lover.... :) Hope all is well! It's midterms here, and I'm feeling a bit hostile towards young human beings...... Jules
Great video of a great little stove. Glad to see you did it justice, i had issues with mine but like you found sorting it properly to start with meant less messing about after. Love it, thanks for sharing ;-)
Stu M Thanks so much for those great words! I sure appreciate your viewing the vid, and also for giving this little stove a good name. It still can drive me nuts, though! Heh heh! Jules
Thanks for this Jules i was thinking of getting a firebox because when i used this stove i had to attend to it every 5 minutes to keep it going. I will try this out the next time i use it,take care Eddie.
Arguably one of the most misused pieces of gear out there. Thanks for taking the time to help inform folks on it's proper use. At $15 bucks for a Chinese knockoff, this is probably one of the best buys in a backpacking stove. I love mine!
I've just acquired one of these stoves, and this video has made me re-think how I use mine - I'm going to try burning from the top down like this, instead of bottom up, and see what happens ! Thanks ..... Dave (UK)
+noakeswalker Thanks for the comment, Dave. Any more I've found that the upside down fires are the only ones I make--whether in this little stove, or little campfires, or even in my little hunting wood stove. In fact, there was a yt of a guy that made a huge upsidedown fire--the thing was about 3 feet tall when he had it built--lasted for hours! I'm finding that the main problem I have with this little woodgas is that mine doesn't have a high enough space to poke wood in when it does need new wood, so I'm constantly having to lift the pan up. And if I get annoyed and put too much wood in, poof--it goes out! It's a fire that's beautiful but sure teaches patience! Thanks for your note. Jules (WY, USA)
Excellent demo and a fantastic view of the flames, Jules. I really like your beautiful woodgas stove. It works really great. Thanks for showing. All my best my friend. Greetings Tito
Oh thank you so much, my dear Tito! I so appreciate your comments about the flames--hehe heh, just about burned the lens.... My best to Mrs. Tito. Jules
Oh thank you for watching this, and giving it a great comment yourself! I think this little devil is so hard to use----unless it's used right, and then it's so beautiful. Thanks so much for the view! Jules
Great demo of the stove! Fire prep are very importent in every situation ane as you showed knowing you gear is very important too. Thank you for sharing my friend:) All the best to you and yours. Rob
Well thanks so much, Mick. This is really a neat little stove--but it's taken me a long time to really learn how to use it. Well worth the learning, for it will last longer than other little wood stoves, but it does take a bit to figure out how to keep it loaded without it snuffing out. I find it use it more in some situations than others. Always nice to have 14 different stoves to choose from, eh?! Thanks for your view! Jules
steinwaygoat Just the 14 Jules lol This is such a great stove and it is frustrating to see peops load it incorrectly, struggle and give up on it. I love mine. Thank you for sharing. Paul:)
I have basically the same thing in the Silver Fire Scout Stove......Yes , Finally someone doing it the right way. .... Load the stove with small pieces of sticks and then keeping them under the top holes light the sticks....It should burn from the top down. Plus if you want a quick fire to heat up some water for coffee you can use a little , Trangia ( Alcohol ) burner in the stove in place of the wood.
+Chuck Littleton Hi my Chuck, yes, thank you. That was fun to make---. And yup, I'm really learning to combine an alcohol stove with that frame. And those upsidedown fires are becoming a real favorite with me, even without the woodgas stove... Thanks for your view, dear sir. Jules
Brilliant demo my friend. I love my little stove and yes I do get frustrated when I could not get it burning for a long time.... You have opened my eyes to my mistakes. Let it burn ;-)
Well Richard, it only took me a YEAR to finally read the directions again..... :D Thanks for your great comment, and always looking at my little vids! Jules
Hi Jules great shots of the flames it was like the olympic torch . great demo and info .....i like these stoves but seen a few bad comments about them not burning right or having to keep topping them up all the time , obviously they havent seen this vid and the correct way to do it , great stuff Jules !!! may even get a longer burn with different woods just a thought . Ash says Big hi and take care from us both
Hey my dear Ash & Paul! Thanks for the reference to the olympics!! I love watching those, and have wondered if my international buddies have too! My best to you both, and thanks so much for always checking in on me. Jules.
Oh, the cat started to sniff the heat of the steel ring and you pulled it back and made a noise cuz it startled you. Your cat responded with a whimper letting you know it was hot, but she got away because you were quick off the draw. Good job bro. Thanks for the video, I am going to get me one of these stoves real soon. It would make a great tool for cooking if the power were to ever go out for an extended time. Cheers.
Gr8 video, I luv mine also. I use the trangia alcohol stove fits perfectly for carrying and cooking inside a similar wood stove to yours. I use this set up for a quick stop and go meal. It can be very versatile, and folds together to fit inside my bushpot for a condensed cook kit. 👍
Yes I just am enchanted by it's flames. I got a link to a couple other great channels from your site, thanks! Let me know when you post some vids! Thanks for your view. Jules
I know! I can waste so much time on UA-cam watching different vids of gas wood stoves. There was one that really impressed me from a guy that was making neat little GLASS woodstoves. Incredible. Testy little devils to learn how to use, eh. Thanks much! Jules
Yes, I love that little stove. I use it as a wood gas; then sometimes overload it to GET smoke and use it as a smudge, and then in the winter I just take the bottom ring and use it as a little fire ring. Great to hear you like it too. Thanks much for your view, dear sir. Jules
very cool presentation, Jules, perfect videography cum cat sound, and a very good result for the stove! Seems I have to change the priority for wood gasification on my project list ... ;-) Thanks and best regards, Robert
Heh heh, thanks my dearest banglorebobbel! The problem I now have with wood gasification is that it's so darn mesmerizing that I spend all my time just staring at the flames, rather than doing whatever I should be doing. Maybe what I should be doing more of is staring at gas flames..... :D Thanks for your views! Jewel
steinwaygoat Oh yes, Jules, it is fascinating to watch the flames there ... if I would be their Sales Manager I would market these stoves as Mandala-Hobo, since unlike normal hobo stoves which simply produce any chaotic flame structures these ones create wonderful flame mandalas ;-))) Enjoy Your flames, take care, best regards, Bobbel
+GizmoBee1702 Oh that comment is a HOOT! YUP, I do see people lugging these axes around, and they must weigh a ton (that is, after they get out their expensive titanium low-weight tiny pot to use after they've used that axe...) BUT, I have to say, I don't use an axe because of those arrogant reasons: I KNOW I'd whack it right into my leg, I'm so clumsy! Great comment, thanks so much. Jules
Dear God, thank you for this video! I was ready to bash my same exact stove for the reasons you mentioned! Lol. I'm going out to try your method now. Thanks!
Homesteading Ways Heh heh, that's a great comment! Yup, this little devil is hard to figure out---but oh it's a nice little thing when you do! There's a new model put out by Toaks--seems to have a slightly easier doorway for putting more wood in. "A thousand pitfalls....." Thanks so much for your comment. Oh, by the way, do check out the glass (!!!) woodgas stove this guy keeps going for hours with wood pellets.... Wish I could remember the link, but I bet you can find it. Thanks much, Jules.
Going gluten free got rid of 90 percent of my arthritis. Only took a month to see positive results. Love the stove too, I have a couple of different brands.
Robert Williams Heh heh, me too! I think I like them because they have the most fantastic flames----even tho they certainly are harder to tend.... Did you see that Toaks has a new model out that's really nice. It's taking all my strength to not order it..... Thanks for your comment! Jules
+duxdawg Yup, it is an interesting stove. This winter I've been taking up my little alcohol stove for a quick coffee, but then I also have the bottom ring of this Wild Woodgas, and just use it as a little fire ring for a controlled tiny fire. Interestingly, those bottom vents make a fantastic little fire (and I construct it as an upsidedown fire, burning from the top down). Thanks so much for your time for watching this. Jules
+steinwaygoat My pleasure! Loving your vids, glad I found your channel. The mountains and the goats are gorgeous. Your tips on the tarps, stove, etc have been great. Thank you!!
If you put a smal stick in any hole in the bottom and shake the stove slightly you can open up airways to make the fire more alive. It's the ashes that fall down opening up the airholes inside. :) I learned that from MCQBushcraft
Outsider Oh yes, very nice trick! Actually, it was MCQBushcraft that prompted me to make this video. I admire him so very much, yet he really didn't know how to use this stove--lighting it like a small bonfire, and complaining about the smoke and having to rebuilt it repeatedly (and lighting it again above the air holes...). He gave such a bad review of the dear little stove--only because he didn't know how to use it. So I put this up to point out that: Properly loaded and lit, the stove would last for an hour, without having to touch it. (Hence, I didn't shake it, as you suggest). But, all told, MCQ is an absolute genius in every other aspect of his bushcraft--so much so that I found this humorous that he didn't know the physics of this little stove.... :D Thanks so very much for watching. Great fun to have this kind of conversation....
steinwaygoat In some videos I have seen about it they brought and used pellets, your version is as close as you can get to pellets. :) we watch and learn, as well as brainstorming ideas of stuff, yes, that is fun. everyone is a winner. :D
Blue Mountain Bushcraft and Outdoors Well thanks so much for your kind words. I think the real trick with this stove is learning how to stoke it slowly and constantly, and never block those top air holes. Frustrating to learn how to use, so don't throw it across the yard like I've done.... :D Jules.
+Dillon! Not sure what his brand is, i have been looking at lots on E ---y and finally went with the Silver Fire Scout Stove due to the reflector under the fire. I hope it give a longer burn as they say it reflects the heat where the china ones don t, but they give a option of a higher top for getting sticks under while your pots on? i think i will cut a tin can and rest it on top if i find i need to do that. I plan on taking some pre chopped hard wood for a long burn as i usually do a one night Hammock. Good luck with your stove. 24 GDP on e ---y right now bargin.
+Dillon! Hi Dillon. This one that I have is a Wild Woodgas stove--one of the originals from a few years ago. That being said, I've seen some cheap home made jobs that are fantastic--and even one made from two glass jars, if you can believe it. This one is certainly lightweight but durable--I've sat on it, dropped it in the creek and had to retrieve it a mile down...and certainly mashed it's little pot holders. BTW, there's a neat little homemade pot stand that "noakeswalker" made that I just saw tonight: ua-cam.com/video/yES2Hq0f9a4/v-deo.html. Thanks for your interest and view. Jules
OK, this time I've understood :-) marvellous images at the beginning, and I love the prehistoric way of breaking dry sticks ! clearly, knifes (in stone or metal) are overused in bushcraft demos :-)
Heh heh, thanks, my freejutube friend! Heh heh, I appreciate your comment about the prehistoric way of breaking my sticks. My darn hands are so old (definitely prehistoric themselves) that whacking sticks on rocks or rocks on sticks is my choice method for sure! My mom was part Native American, and she's always laugh about breaking sticks over rocks as "the squaw way" to get kindling. Thanks, dear sir. Jules
+Wyomin' Po Boy Yeah, they're a pretty neat little stove if you're confined by the use of wood. I originally got it to fry fish on during fire bans, but I don't think it would pass the ban laws. It is a beautiful fire, but it did take me a good bit to learn how to really keep it going. Thanks much!
+steinwaygoat This stove may pass the fire ban laws because it is contained and not an open fire. i see this stove on eBay for $60. pricey but worth it i'm sure. i'll save up a little money and get one. i can't wait to watch more of your videos. it's very nice to know someone from Wyoming appreciates some of the things that i like..martin
You can get a Chinese knock off, that works great from ebay as well. I just received one, I paid $25CAN for mine. Look up " LIXADA Portable Stainless Steel Lightweight Wood Stove Alcohol Stove Burner E9O2" I have the 6 piece kit, looks pretty good. I'm looking forward to trying it out.
Yes, indeed, my Trangia is one of my top three. Oddly, I use my cheap little homemade "fancee feast" most for instant gratification for coffee, the trangia for good cooking (it certainly is efficient!), and this woodgas for long cooks and warmth. All three are in my heart! Thanks for watching, sir! Jules
Hi Moto, I think you can go to Wild Woodgas Stove's website (under that name), OR, to save quite a bit and support the Chinese culture, you can find woodgas stoves now on ebay quite cheaply. Now it's been quite a while since I used that stove, and strangely, I JUST came back from a camping trip where I had that along to use as a smudge stove to keep bugs away from my pack goats. Well, as it turns out, my niece was hogging the firepit to bake her fish in tinfoil, so I took the little woodgas, set it between two rock and put my little grill across it, and used that tiny thing to fry up two huge fish and some VG's! Worked FANTASTIC! Had to be completely lying down to see when I needed to stoke the fire, and when to rotate the frying pan, but it worked wonderfully. I was licking the pan clean before the niece's fish were done cooking..... :D Best to you! Jules
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou for making this Jules, Scots Wildcamper pointed me here & I'm glad he did...I'm totally in love with my stove but was slowly trying to figure out how to use it properly and efficiently - your video has been an education!! :-) next project will be to try it out and get used to stacking it... I'd seen somewhere people were using compressed cat litter pellets? If I can find the link again I'll share it :-) But again, many thanks, you have no idea how valuable this post is to me (and probably loads of others too!!) ATB, ~WWC~
Oh my dear WeeWildyCamper (what a fantastic name!) Thank you for your great vote of confidence in it (and me :D ). Yes indeed, I am fascinated with the cat-litter idea. I use a wood pellet stove in my home, and in a fit of impatience with this stove, I finally packed it with those pellets, and that's when I had that great AHA moment! I wonder if the cat litter would be too sawdusty--I tried that in the Wildwood (sawdust), and it just punked out. Thanks so much! Jules PS That Eddie is a hoot, eh?!
;-) I tried to find a name that described me...think I succeeded lol! The sawdust probably just didn't allow for enough air circulation for it to catch fire properly I'd think...jealous much, I'm hoping to put a wood stove in my home as the gas bills for heating here are ridiculous! Eddie's great, I always enjoy watching his videos :-) You're welcome Jules, and thankyou again for educating me on the best way to pack my stove for a long burn! :-) Atb ~WWC~
***** Heh heh, what a wonderful comment! Yup. I'm old, and have had three sets of dogs in my life--young adult, middle age, and now I'm on my dogs-for-my-old age. And when this young scoundrel came into my life, I said to him, Oh I've waited my whole life for you. Thanks sir, and I enjoyed you ID picture... :D
+mariorossiexcite Gawd you don't know how accurate that "suicide cat" call is. She constantly burns the end off her tail--seems she has no concept of fire. Thanks so much for watching and making me smile. Jules
阿吡 Oh yes, indeed, dear viewer! I know that frustration so well! I was out a couple months ago and forgot my regular sooty pot, and had to use my pristine coffee pot. Oh I was so sad to see it get sooted up, and annoyed when I had to spend so much time cleaning it at home. Now some folks say that spreading soap on the bottom of the pot helps (but then you've got the soap to deal with, aaargh). What I do is just really rub it around in the dirt and sand and grass right after I've used it. Then there's a solid, "ceramic" feel to the bottom, and it doesn't get the soot all over. Although....I do bring a separate bag for that pot. Yup, indeed a messy endeavor to cook anything over a flame. Try that soap trick, though, for it will help. Another thing to try with this stove is to use it also for broiling. I've got a neat little tiny grill that fits on top, and I've broiled a nice London Broil steak on there that's delicious. I've seen other folks even broil breaded fish! One thing I do is to use this stove for that type of cooking, and then have another "side burner" of my little alcohol stove to make a quick, clean cup of coffee. One can never have too many stoves or knives, you know..... Thanks so much for watching, and for bringing up this topic.
+阿吡 You can reduce the wood gas production by restricting the bottom air holes on the INNER container. It will reduce the flame intensity but result in longer burn time. Soot is caused by incomplete combustion, meaning too much wood gas was produced while not having enough oxygen intake to burn it. If the fire shoot high outside the container the stove isn't burning correctly.
I have one of these stoves, and can state that it burns wood very well, whether top-lit or bottom-lit. Unfortunately, though, it isn't a great success as a tool for actually cooking with... 1) Too little control over the level of heat, ESPECIALLY if a top-lit burn is employed. 2) Although there is little smoke (that is, when it is going properly) there is a huge amount of TAR deposited on the outside of cooking pots... This layer of black crud is quite impermeable to water, and will not dissolve until washed with a powerful solvent, say, cellulose thinners. That's for the base of the pot. For the SIDES of the pot, above the line where the previously heated liquid came to on the inside, thinners doesn't work any better than water does. What is required is caustic soda gel, as used for professional cleaning of oven interiors.... (Caustic soda alkali burns: use only with rubber gloves and eye protection) All in all, the convenience of not having to carry fuel is negated by irksome and expensive 1 hour clean-up job necessary for even a few minutes use boiling a half litre of water. I'd be interested to see how the forced air wood gas stoves work in regard of cleaner burning...??? As it is, I don't much like the idea of continuing to cook in the blackened relic of the nice stainless steel pan I started out my hike with. Also. I feel the wood gas stove is much worse at coating the pot in this disgusting black crud than (a) the ZoomVersa rocket stove I use at home, and (b) an ordinary open camp fire. Both of these deposit SOOT in some quantity, but it does rinse off fairly cleanly... This is my opinion. For these reasons I feel buying the Wild Wood-gas stove was a mistake.
Heh heh, that's a GREAT response. I've got a little homemade alcohol stove that does most my work; but for frying fish--when there's a fire ban on--this does right nice. But yup, what a mess! Fortunately, my fish frying pan is a fire pit pan, so there's no harm there...but yes, I certainly agree! I've seen the forced air stoves--pretty neat, but I decided against them because of the noise (!). Really enjoyed your comments, sir. Thank you so much. Jules
Easy pot and stove clean up begins by coating the outside with soap. We mainly coat in dish soap then dry in the sun or a campfire, but bar soap rubbed on heavily then heated a bit (sort of melts and quits being so dusty/crumbly) works too. No mess while dry, then the soap, soot, burned food, etc comes right off when wet. All the crud sticks to the soap - not the stove or pan. We've been doing this since the 1970s. Amazing that it's not common practice these days.
As to your point #1, this stove is not meant to replace your kitchen. It's not meant for cooking five course fancy French meals. It's meant for a lot of heat, quickly, with a minimum of fuel, in a lightweight, compact, easily carried in a backpack format. For which it performs admirably.
Thanks for this Jules i was thinking of getting a firebox because when i used this stove i had to attend to it every 5 minutes to keep it going. I will try this out the next time i use it,take care Eddie.
Thanks my Eddie! I was trying to fry a great little London Broil on top of it last week, and I noted that I loaded it just a bit too full so it was clogging the vent holes, and man that thing would not perform. So I keep learning to pack it tight, but not up past the vents! A good bonfire is the best...... :D Jules
A good instructional video. I have watched so many "how to" videos made by folk who do not know how to or just ignore makers instructions. One guy demonstrated the use of a Kelly kettle having not removed the cork bung before lighting and by lifting the kettle off the base when hot by putting the handle and his hand directly over the flue (ie. an open flame). This was despite the fact that the kettle came with full instructions not to mention the makers instructional vidio on UA-cam. Beyond belief! So folks light your woodgas stove this way - it works.
I love this video! It is frustrating that so many video reviews of this type of stove show the 'wrong' way to use them. These wonderful little stoves get a lot of unjustified criticism, because folks don't know how to get the best from them. Here in the UK (and probably in many other countries) an excellent cheap source of 'Wood Pellet' fuel is Wood Based Cat Litter. (Fresh, not used, of Course!) :)
David Longster Heh heh, you made me chuckle out loud. Actually, it was a guy using the little wood pellets that made me realize how powerful this stove can be. And I agree--the frustration of really good, good bushcrafters not know basic "fire anatomy" is kind of frustrating. Thanks so much for your good words. Jules.
I just came from a camping trip and used this stove for the first time. I didn't see your video before hand but was pleased with how it burned. I definitely will try your method.
Valuable instruction; inspiring photography.
Jeepers, thanks for that nice comment. Since then I’ve made a double coffee can stove and it works even better. Easier to keep going because it’s just a little bit bigger. I showed on a couple of my more recent videos if you’re ever bored and addicted to wood gas stoves.....
Great video... and good job!
I have watched (on UA-cam) so many people incorrectly using 'wood gas' stoves (& then complaining about them) that I even went out of my way to make a video explaining how wood gas technology works, and how to correctly load & light the stove; hence, the acronym TLUD -- top "LIT" updraft stove.
+aztiger1 Hi aztiger1-- Sorry I didn't see your great great comment about the woodgas stove until now (you wrote that 8 months ago--that's a whole life time, sorry). Yeah, I LOVE that idea of yours, "TLUD." In fact, any more I've found that I make all my little fires TLUD--even little campfires, and fires in my hunting camp wood stove. I'm going to look up your video, thanks! Jules
like u i have seen many people on youtube use the wild stove wrong after watching your vid i collected and cut the smallest of twigs filled my wild stove i used it for the first time tonight, lit it and left it, i got one hours burn and after it went out no mess everything so clean and the smallest amount of ash which could have been used with a little water to clean the pans, all brilliant fantastic piece of kit
Heh heh, thanks so much--both for watching and for telling me about your experience. The makers of that little stove must get so frustrated when they see folks piling on the sticks over the top... :D Thanks so very much, Jules.
I Finally found a video showing the correct way to use these stoves...Thank you for making this video
Heh heh, your comment made me chuckle out loud. It's fascinating to see really competent woodsmen out there misusing this stove.... There's a fantastic channel, "woodgasstove" or something like that, where the man beautifully machines a variety of these. Great craftsmanship. Thanks for your comment. Jules
Yeah thanks for your video,just got my stove today,and loaded it the way you show in your video,and i am pleased to say i got nearly the same results,even while using some slightly damp sticks, burns very hot ! the flames look just like on a cooking stove.
i think i will try wood pellets to see if they will work as well?
Thanks, Charles
+c shackleford Hi Charles, (and sorry for the tardy response): Thanks so much for your comment on the wood gas stove. I hope you tried the pellets. It actually was putting pellets in (after wanting to destroy the stove....) that helped me realize how to properly load these stoves. I was lazy the other day, and only took up the base of the stove on a trek, and loaded it up like an "upsidedown" fire. The holes in the bottom of the stove help create an amazingly hot little, efficient fire! Interesting. .....On the other end of the spectrum, I'm getting into winter camping now, and have just gotten a little Kni-Co- wood stove. Learning how to use that has helped me really understand these other smaller stoves. Ah, fire! Thanks so much for your interest. Jules
I absolutely love how your cat has so much trust in you that you can bang away making all that noise and he or she just lays right there still. That's cool.
Heh heh, thanks so much for your comment. (and sorry for the late response!) Yup, that cat's the best, but TOTALLY unaware of fire. She's burned her dear tail many a time.
I have a $17 Chinese knock-off version of this stove and I think it is one of the best stoves out there. Like you I had to learn how to properly use it. Not that it is hard to use, but there is right way and a wrong way to use this stove. What I really like about this stove is that it has such a low impact on the environment when compared to any other stove. Nice, video.
+Chip Sanford Thanks so much, Chip. Yup--in fact, on lazy days, I have taken to just taking that bottom stand ring up on my day hikes, and using it as a little fire-ring. Burns like almighty! Say---I mean to always say I like that airplane in your logo picture. I come from a long line of flyers.... Jules
It was a fully restored B-17 WWII bomber. I flew in it several times until it crashed and burned.
+Chip Sanford lucky you weren't in it
Hi Jules!
This is a very convincing demonstration. Quite amazing how little wood will last so long without anything to do in the meantime while it's burning along.
I'm learning to love it :o)
Best greetings, Tim
Hey, my Tim! Thanks so much. This little thing is like a fickle lover.... :) Hope all is well! It's midterms here, and I'm feeling a bit hostile towards young human beings...... Jules
Great video of a great little stove. Glad to see you did it justice, i had issues with mine but like you found sorting it properly to start with meant less messing about after. Love it, thanks for sharing ;-)
Stu M Thanks so much for those great words! I sure appreciate your viewing the vid, and also for giving this little stove a good name. It still can drive me nuts, though! Heh heh! Jules
Thanks for this Jules i was thinking of getting a firebox because when i used this stove i had to attend to it every 5 minutes to keep it going.
I will try this out the next time i use it,take care Eddie.
Arguably one of the most misused pieces of gear out there. Thanks for taking the time to help inform folks on it's proper use. At $15 bucks for a Chinese knockoff, this is probably one of the best buys in a backpacking stove. I love mine!
Heh heh, thanks for this comment (and sorry for the late response). Yup, a tricky stove to learn to use, but I agree, one of the best. Jules
I've just acquired one of these stoves, and this video has made me re-think how I use mine - I'm going to try burning from the top down like this, instead of bottom up, and see what happens ! Thanks ..... Dave (UK)
+noakeswalker Thanks for the comment, Dave. Any more I've found that the upside down fires are the only ones I make--whether in this little stove, or little campfires, or even in my little hunting wood stove. In fact, there was a yt of a guy that made a huge upsidedown fire--the thing was about 3 feet tall when he had it built--lasted for hours! I'm finding that the main problem I have with this little woodgas is that mine doesn't have a high enough space to poke wood in when it does need new wood, so I'm constantly having to lift the pan up. And if I get annoyed and put too much wood in, poof--it goes out! It's a fire that's beautiful but sure teaches patience! Thanks for your note. Jules (WY, USA)
Excellent demo and a fantastic view of the flames, Jules. I really like your beautiful woodgas stove. It works really great. Thanks for showing.
All my best my friend. Greetings Tito
I am using this woodgas stove now since a year and i am not using my other stoves anymore. a stove on my trails then this is my choice !
Oh thank you so much, my dear Tito! I so appreciate your comments about the flames--hehe heh, just about burned the lens.... My best to Mrs. Tito. Jules
Oh thank you for watching this, and giving it a great comment yourself! I think this little devil is so hard to use----unless it's used right, and then it's so beautiful. Thanks so much for the view! Jules
Great demo of the stove! Fire prep are very importent in every situation ane as you showed knowing you gear is very important too. Thank you for sharing my friend:)
All the best to you and yours.
Rob
Oh man, I think I love my gear more than I love members of my own family...... :D Thanks so much for your great comments. Jules
I just bought one of these and am about to try it. I would never have know. Thanks for the info and thanks for posting.
Well thanks so much, Mick. This is really a neat little stove--but it's taken me a long time to really learn how to use it. Well worth the learning, for it will last longer than other little wood stoves, but it does take a bit to figure out how to keep it loaded without it snuffing out. I find it use it more in some situations than others. Always nice to have 14 different stoves to choose from, eh?! Thanks for your view! Jules
steinwaygoat Just the 14 Jules lol This is such a great stove and it is frustrating to see peops load it incorrectly, struggle and give up on it. I love mine. Thank you for sharing. Paul:)
I have basically the same thing in the Silver Fire Scout Stove......Yes , Finally someone doing it the right way. .... Load the stove with small pieces of sticks and then keeping them under the top holes light the sticks....It should burn from the top down.
Plus if you want a quick fire to heat up some water for coffee you can use a little , Trangia ( Alcohol ) burner in the stove in place of the wood.
+Chuck Littleton Hi my Chuck, yes, thank you. That was fun to make---. And yup, I'm really learning to combine an alcohol stove with that frame. And those upsidedown fires are becoming a real favorite with me, even without the woodgas stove... Thanks for your view, dear sir. Jules
Hi Jules, Sorry I missed this one. Makes me glad you liked the matches!! What an incredible stove! And good job with the video! take care my friend.
Gullrica Oh my gosh, this was so long ago that you watched this! I'm so tardy in my response! Thanks, my good fire fly! Jules
Brilliant demo my friend. I love my little stove and yes I do get frustrated when I could not get it burning for a long time.... You have opened my eyes to my mistakes.
Let it burn ;-)
Well Richard, it only took me a YEAR to finally read the directions again..... :D Thanks for your great comment, and always looking at my little vids! Jules
I’m glad I saw yours. I’m using this stove for the first time today. Thank you so much🙏👨🏻🎨 Yama
Hi Jules great shots of the flames it was like the olympic torch . great demo and info .....i like these stoves but seen a few bad comments about them not burning right or having to keep topping them up all the time , obviously they havent seen this vid and the correct way to do it , great stuff Jules !!! may even get a longer burn with different woods just a thought . Ash says Big hi and take care from us both
Hey my dear Ash & Paul! Thanks for the reference to the olympics!! I love watching those, and have wondered if my international buddies have too! My best to you both, and thanks so much for always checking in on me. Jules.
Oh, the cat started to sniff the heat of the steel ring and you pulled it back and made a noise cuz it startled you. Your cat responded with a whimper letting you know it was hot, but she got away because you were quick off the draw. Good job bro. Thanks for the video, I am going to get me one of these stoves real soon. It would make a great tool for cooking if the power were to ever go out for an extended time. Cheers.
+skyym3 Thanks, skyym3, for your comment (of 8 months ago!!) about the stove and the cat. Just saw your kind words. Thank you! Jules
Gr8 video, I luv mine also. I use the trangia alcohol stove fits perfectly for carrying and cooking inside a similar wood stove to yours. I use this set up for a quick stop and go meal. It can be very versatile, and folds together to fit inside my bushpot for a condensed cook kit. 👍
I have one of these stoves and love it. I burn wooden cat liiter pellets and they work awesome.
Yes I just am enchanted by it's flames. I got a link to a couple other great channels from your site, thanks! Let me know when you post some vids! Thanks for your view. Jules
Great demonstration . . . love those gasifier stoves!
I know! I can waste so much time on UA-cam watching different vids of gas wood stoves. There was one that really impressed me from a guy that was making neat little GLASS woodstoves. Incredible. Testy little devils to learn how to use, eh. Thanks much! Jules
What a wonderful flame! Thanks for such an amazing video!
i have one of these stoves i love it its an amazing bit of kit ,works great providing i use small pieces of wood to get it going
Yes, I love that little stove. I use it as a wood gas; then sometimes overload it to GET smoke and use it as a smudge, and then in the winter I just take the bottom ring and use it as a little fire ring. Great to hear you like it too. Thanks much for your view, dear sir. Jules
very cool presentation, Jules,
perfect videography cum cat sound, and a very good result for the stove! Seems I have to change the priority for wood gasification on my project list ... ;-)
Thanks and best regards, Robert
Heh heh, thanks my dearest banglorebobbel! The problem I now have with wood gasification is that it's so darn mesmerizing that I spend all my time just staring at the flames, rather than doing whatever I should be doing. Maybe what I should be doing more of is staring at gas flames..... :D Thanks for your views! Jewel
steinwaygoat
Oh yes, Jules,
it is fascinating to watch the flames there ... if I would be their Sales Manager I would market these stoves as Mandala-Hobo, since unlike normal hobo stoves which simply produce any chaotic flame structures these ones create wonderful flame mandalas ;-)))
Enjoy Your flames, take care, best regards,
Bobbel
Axe? Axe? I don't need no stinkin' axe!
+GizmoBee1702 Oh that comment is a HOOT! YUP, I do see people lugging these axes around, and they must weigh a ton (that is, after they get out their expensive titanium low-weight tiny pot to use after they've used that axe...) BUT, I have to say, I don't use an axe because of those arrogant reasons: I KNOW I'd whack it right into my leg, I'm so clumsy! Great comment, thanks so much. Jules
Dear God, thank you for this video! I was ready to bash my same exact stove for the reasons you mentioned! Lol. I'm going out to try your method now. Thanks!
Homesteading Ways Heh heh, that's a great comment! Yup, this little devil is hard to figure out---but oh it's a nice little thing when you do! There's a new model put out by Toaks--seems to have a slightly easier doorway for putting more wood in. "A thousand pitfalls....." Thanks so much for your comment. Oh, by the way, do check out the glass (!!!) woodgas stove this guy keeps going for hours with wood pellets.... Wish I could remember the link, but I bet you can find it. Thanks much, Jules.
Lovely film, thank you.
Thanks so much, kevw333. I went into your site and had a good laugh at the aerosol explosion! :D
Going gluten free got rid of 90 percent of my arthritis. Only took a month to see positive results.
Love the stove too, I have a couple of different brands.
I love these stoves
Robert Williams Heh heh, me too! I think I like them because they have the most fantastic flames----even tho they certainly are harder to tend.... Did you see that Toaks has a new model out that's really nice. It's taking all my strength to not order it..... Thanks for your comment! Jules
Thanks,I hope too start selling in America.
Very intriguing.
+duxdawg Yup, it is an interesting stove. This winter I've been taking up my little alcohol stove for a quick coffee, but then I also have the bottom ring of this Wild Woodgas, and just use it as a little fire ring for a controlled tiny fire. Interestingly, those bottom vents make a fantastic little fire (and I construct it as an upsidedown fire, burning from the top down). Thanks so much for your time for watching this. Jules
+steinwaygoat My pleasure! Loving your vids, glad I found your channel. The mountains and the goats are gorgeous. Your tips on the tarps, stove, etc have been great. Thank you!!
If you put a smal stick in any hole in the bottom and shake the stove slightly you can open up airways to make the fire more alive. It's the ashes that fall down opening up the airholes inside. :)
I learned that from MCQBushcraft
Outsider Oh yes, very nice trick! Actually, it was MCQBushcraft that prompted me to make this video. I admire him so very much, yet he really didn't know how to use this stove--lighting it like a small bonfire, and complaining about the smoke and having to rebuilt it repeatedly (and lighting it again above the air holes...). He gave such a bad review of the dear little stove--only because he didn't know how to use it. So I put this up to point out that: Properly loaded and lit, the stove would last for an hour, without having to touch it. (Hence, I didn't shake it, as you suggest). But, all told, MCQ is an absolute genius in every other aspect of his bushcraft--so much so that I found this humorous that he didn't know the physics of this little stove.... :D Thanks so very much for watching. Great fun to have this kind of conversation....
steinwaygoat
In some videos I have seen about it they brought and used pellets, your version is as close as you can get to pellets. :)
we watch and learn, as well as brainstorming ideas of stuff, yes, that is fun.
everyone is a winner. :D
공기구멍을 효율적으로 만들어 놓아서, 거의 완전연소 하는듯... 나뭇가지가 완전연소 하는거 대단한 거임.
Ah! I so wish I understood! But THANK YOU. Greetings from Wyoming! Jules
These work well on pellets too!
Outstanding! Thank you so much for providing me this link. I can't wait to try this with my stove.
That is a very impressive burn time.
Blue Mountain Bushcraft and Outdoors Well thanks so much for your kind words. I think the real trick with this stove is learning how to stoke it slowly and constantly, and never block those top air holes. Frustrating to learn how to use, so don't throw it across the yard like I've done.... :D Jules.
I tried your suggestion yesterday evening. It lasted almost 30 minutes with no tending. I'm impressed. I'll keep experimenting with it.
Blue Mountain Bushcraft and Outdoors Oh thanks so much for letting me know it's working for you! My best to you with all your flames! Jules
There are several brands that have this version of wood stove. Which one is the best most durable version? What is the brand name of this one?
+Dillon! Not sure what his brand is, i have been looking at lots on E ---y and finally went with the Silver Fire Scout Stove due to the reflector under the fire. I hope it give a longer burn as they say it reflects the heat where the china ones don t, but they give a option of a higher top for getting sticks under while your pots on? i think i will cut a tin can and rest it on top if i find i need to do that. I plan on taking some pre chopped hard wood for a long burn as i usually do a one night Hammock. Good luck with your stove. 24 GDP on e ---y right now bargin.
+Dillon! Hi Dillon. This one that I have is a Wild Woodgas stove--one of the originals from a few years ago. That being said, I've seen some cheap home made jobs that are fantastic--and even one made from two glass jars, if you can believe it. This one is certainly lightweight but durable--I've sat on it, dropped it in the creek and had to retrieve it a mile down...and certainly mashed it's little pot holders. BTW, there's a neat little homemade pot stand that "noakeswalker" made that I just saw tonight: ua-cam.com/video/yES2Hq0f9a4/v-deo.html. Thanks for your interest and view. Jules
steinwaygoat
Love the stove.
OK, this time I've understood :-)
marvellous images at the beginning,
and I love the prehistoric way of breaking dry sticks !
clearly, knifes (in stone or metal) are overused in bushcraft demos :-)
Heh heh, thanks, my freejutube friend! Heh heh, I appreciate your comment about the prehistoric way of breaking my sticks. My darn hands are so old (definitely prehistoric themselves) that whacking sticks on rocks or rocks on sticks is my choice method for sure! My mom was part Native American, and she's always laugh about breaking sticks over rocks as "the squaw way" to get kindling. Thanks, dear sir. Jules
This looks like a great stove. i may have to get me one...
+Wyomin' Po Boy Yeah, they're a pretty neat little stove if you're confined by the use of wood. I originally got it to fry fish on during fire bans, but I don't think it would pass the ban laws. It is a beautiful fire, but it did take me a good bit to learn how to really keep it going. Thanks much!
+steinwaygoat This stove may pass the fire ban laws because it is contained and not an open fire. i see this stove on eBay for $60. pricey but worth it i'm sure. i'll save up a little money and get one. i can't wait to watch more of your videos. it's very nice to know someone from Wyoming appreciates some of the things that i like..martin
You can get a Chinese knock off, that works great from ebay as well. I just received one, I paid $25CAN for mine. Look up "
LIXADA Portable Stainless Steel Lightweight Wood Stove Alcohol Stove Burner E9O2" I have the 6 piece kit, looks pretty good. I'm looking forward to trying it out.
I love my Trangia stoves
Yes, indeed, my Trangia is one of my top three. Oddly, I use my cheap little homemade "fancee feast" most for instant gratification for coffee, the trangia for good cooking (it certainly is efficient!), and this woodgas for long cooks and warmth. All three are in my heart! Thanks for watching, sir! Jules
thank you for such a cool answer. Great video!
How can I get one?
Hi Moto,
I think you can go to Wild Woodgas Stove's website (under that name), OR, to save quite a bit and support the Chinese culture, you can find woodgas stoves now on ebay quite cheaply. Now it's been quite a while since I used that stove, and strangely, I JUST came back from a camping trip where I had that along to use as a smudge stove to keep bugs away from my pack goats. Well, as it turns out, my niece was hogging the firepit to bake her fish in tinfoil, so I took the little woodgas, set it between two rock and put my little grill across it, and used that tiny thing to fry up two huge fish and some VG's! Worked FANTASTIC! Had to be completely lying down to see when I needed to stoke the fire, and when to rotate the frying pan, but it worked wonderfully. I was licking the pan clean before the niece's fish were done cooking..... :D Best to you! Jules
Everyone knows to start with smaller pieces first...
Yeah, don't you wish! Thanks so much for your viewing! Jules
Helpful, thanks!
+Casey McCarthy Oh man, I love to see another bike lover! Jules
thank you
And thank you for watching (so long ago, sorry!) Jules
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou for making this Jules, Scots Wildcamper pointed me here & I'm glad he did...I'm totally in love with my stove but was slowly trying to figure out how to use it properly and efficiently - your video has been an education!! :-) next project will be to try it out and get used to stacking it...
I'd seen somewhere people were using compressed cat litter pellets? If I can find the link again I'll share it :-)
But again, many thanks, you have no idea how valuable this post is to me (and probably loads of others too!!)
ATB, ~WWC~
Oh my dear WeeWildyCamper (what a fantastic name!) Thank you for your great vote of confidence in it (and me :D ). Yes indeed, I am fascinated with the cat-litter idea. I use a wood pellet stove in my home, and in a fit of impatience with this stove, I finally packed it with those pellets, and that's when I had that great AHA moment! I wonder if the cat litter would be too sawdusty--I tried that in the Wildwood (sawdust), and it just punked out. Thanks so much! Jules PS That Eddie is a hoot, eh?!
;-) I tried to find a name that described me...think I succeeded lol! The sawdust probably just didn't allow for enough air circulation for it to catch fire properly I'd think...jealous much, I'm hoping to put a wood stove in my home as the gas bills for heating here are ridiculous!
Eddie's great, I always enjoy watching his videos :-)
You're welcome Jules, and thankyou again for educating me on the best way to pack my stove for a long burn! :-)
Atb ~WWC~
Your doggy is toooooo cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
***** Heh heh, what a wonderful comment! Yup. I'm old, and have had three sets of dogs in my life--young adult, middle age, and now I'm on my dogs-for-my-old age. And when this young scoundrel came into my life, I said to him, Oh I've waited my whole life for you. Thanks sir, and I enjoyed you ID picture... :D
steinwaygoat Haha! Thanks mate!
Thanks for that :)
+c0deye1 And thank YOu! Always nice to share a bit of fire, eh!
Thsnk you, it filled my upstairs bathroom with ash,
My girlfriend was not impressed!
3:50: suicide cat!
+mariorossiexcite Gawd you don't know how accurate that "suicide cat" call is. She constantly burns the end off her tail--seems she has no concept of fire. Thanks so much for watching and making me smile. Jules
+steinwaygoat Thank you Jules for reviewing this stove and for preserving the life of your cat!
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I like it , its great. But i dont like the soot. Can anyone tell me how to improve it so that it doesnt left over any soot after cooking.
阿吡 Oh yes, indeed, dear viewer! I know that frustration so well! I was out a couple months ago and forgot my regular sooty pot, and had to use my pristine coffee pot. Oh I was so sad to see it get sooted up, and annoyed when I had to spend so much time cleaning it at home. Now some folks say that spreading soap on the bottom of the pot helps (but then you've got the soap to deal with, aaargh). What I do is just really rub it around in the dirt and sand and grass right after I've used it. Then there's a solid, "ceramic" feel to the bottom, and it doesn't get the soot all over. Although....I do bring a separate bag for that pot. Yup, indeed a messy endeavor to cook anything over a flame. Try that soap trick, though, for it will help. Another thing to try with this stove is to use it also for broiling. I've got a neat little tiny grill that fits on top, and I've broiled a nice London Broil steak on there that's delicious. I've seen other folks even broil breaded fish! One thing I do is to use this stove for that type of cooking, and then have another "side burner" of my little alcohol stove to make a quick, clean cup of coffee. One can never have too many stoves or knives, you know..... Thanks so much for watching, and for bringing up this topic.
+阿吡 You can reduce the wood gas production by restricting the bottom air holes on the INNER container. It will reduce the flame intensity but result in longer burn time. Soot is caused by incomplete combustion, meaning too much wood gas was produced while not having enough oxygen intake to burn it. If the fire shoot high outside the container the stove isn't burning correctly.
I have one of these stoves, and can state that it burns wood very well, whether top-lit or bottom-lit. Unfortunately, though, it isn't a great success as a tool for actually cooking with...
1) Too little control over the level of heat, ESPECIALLY if a top-lit burn is employed.
2) Although there is little smoke (that is, when it is going properly) there is a huge amount of TAR deposited on the outside of cooking pots... This layer of black crud is quite impermeable to water, and will not dissolve until washed with a powerful solvent, say, cellulose thinners. That's for the base of the pot. For the SIDES of the pot, above the line where the previously heated liquid came to on the inside, thinners doesn't work any better than water does. What is required is caustic soda gel, as used for professional cleaning of oven interiors.... (Caustic soda alkali burns: use only with rubber gloves and eye protection)
All in all, the convenience of not having to carry fuel is negated by irksome and expensive 1 hour clean-up job necessary for even a few minutes use boiling a half litre of water.
I'd be interested to see how the forced air wood gas stoves work in regard of cleaner burning...???
As it is, I don't much like the idea of continuing to cook in the blackened relic of the nice stainless steel pan I started out my hike with. Also. I feel the wood gas stove is much worse at coating the pot in this disgusting black crud than (a) the ZoomVersa rocket stove I use at home, and (b) an ordinary open camp fire. Both of these deposit SOOT in some quantity, but it does rinse off fairly cleanly...
This is my opinion. For these reasons I feel buying the Wild Wood-gas stove was a mistake.
Heh heh, that's a GREAT response. I've got a little homemade alcohol stove that does most my work; but for frying fish--when there's a fire ban on--this does right nice. But yup, what a mess! Fortunately, my fish frying pan is a fire pit pan, so there's no harm there...but yes, I certainly agree! I've seen the forced air stoves--pretty neat, but I decided against them because of the noise (!). Really enjoyed your comments, sir. Thank you so much. Jules
Easy pot and stove clean up begins by coating the outside with soap.
We mainly coat in dish soap then dry in the sun or a campfire, but bar soap rubbed on heavily then heated a bit (sort of melts and quits being so dusty/crumbly) works too. No mess while dry, then the soap, soot, burned food, etc comes right off when wet. All the crud sticks to the soap - not the stove or pan. We've been doing this since the 1970s. Amazing that it's not common practice these days.
As to your point #1, this stove is not meant to replace your kitchen.
It's not meant for cooking five course fancy French meals. It's meant for a lot of heat, quickly, with a minimum of fuel, in a lightweight, compact, easily carried in a backpack format. For which it performs admirably.
Thanks for this Jules i was thinking of getting a firebox because when i used this stove i had to attend to it every 5 minutes to keep it going.
I will try this out the next time i use it,take care Eddie.
Thanks my Eddie! I was trying to fry a great little London Broil on top of it last week, and I noted that I loaded it just a bit too full so it was clogging the vent holes, and man that thing would not perform. So I keep learning to pack it tight, but not up past the vents! A good bonfire is the best...... :D Jules