You are one of very few people I've seen on UA-cam who know how to use a top lit up draft (TLUD) wood burning stove properly. They are wonderfully efficient, clean by wood burning standards stoves when employed properly. No doubt you've helped many people enjoy their wood gas stoves more than ever. Thank you for making this video!
The key to your longer burn time is the thickness of the wood you used and the way you stacked it in the stove. I have only seen one other video done this way. Usually people use tinder sized twigs and have to feed the stove constantly. If all one wants is to boil some water that’s fine. However, to cook a meal in a pot or a pan, vertically stacking kindling sized wood is the way to go. Wood pellets are amazing. The amount you used probably cost 10 cents and for cooking a meal you could use far less.
You can take those Baby Bell red wax covered cheese mini-rounds backpacking with you: if you unwrap the plastic, and leave that bit at home, you won't even have any garbage when you use the red wax to help start your stove.
Yey, someone who knows how to lite & use one of these gasifier! 👏👏👏 I think you’re generous when you say only 80% don’t do it correctly. I think it’s MORE LIKE 99%.
Lighting from the top is corrects. Maximum 3.5" in length pieces, inserted vertically to fill the combustion chamber. Dryer lint impregnated with petroleum jelly makes a dandy starter.
Thanks for doing it right and educating people! I love mine and can get abot 45 mins. out of mine when done properly. All the wood burns and should leave just a little pileof white ash. Just a great piece of gear.
thanks for showing both ways, wood kindling and pellets. I have same stove and just bought some pellets but realise I do need a small grill to stop them falling through. Thanks again.
To get tinder to light the fuel, first cut 3/4 inch wooden cubes and soak them in a combustable liquid and keep them in a plastic jar with a lid. You can get these discarded jars from sauce or fruit jars that you buy at the food mart. Just make sure to drain the cubes before packing them with your camping gear but don't dry them, just keep them moist. They can, howerver, be used dry but will burn slower and not as fast as the wet ones. They, on the other hand, can be safer than the wet ones.
I've always used a cotton ball smeared with a little bit of Vaseline (petroleum) jelly. Never fails. I've been using a wood gas stove for a few years, and I love it. No fuel to buy or carry, and really easy to use in most conditions.
Your wood chunks should have been longer. About half an inch below the upper holes. Laying those pieces horizontally on top hindered the air movement between the vertical chunks. I seem to get the best performance by putting 4 or 5 vertical chunks right in the center that are a couple inches shorter than all the others and I sprinkle some shavings on top of the shorter ones and then my accelerant onto the shavings and light it. You really want unrestricted airflow between the chunks to speed up the downdraft effect. Vertical stacking is 100% the correct way. But it’s gonna eventually burn no matter how haphazardly you load it. But it will use less fuel and burn longer by using more substantial sized twigs/chunks stacked vertically. Keeping them below the upper wood gas vents is a must for a cleaner burn and longer run time. These are pretty easy to make by using two different sizes of tin cans too. But for $20 bucks, jeez, can’t beat em.
Nice video I have been using these stoves for a while and prefer to run them on pellets for sure , I get about 1 hour 10 mins from a full charge , I carry a good size ziploc bag in my pack and I find about 1 pound of pellets does the trick per charge, its always in my pack especially in the winter.
Sooo, I think I've been lighting it up wrong all this time. Lol. Go figure. Glad I came across these videos. Got the same wood stove too. Now when I camp out, I'll actually do it right.
Excellent informative video. We have two suggestions if you test them. The stove as efficient as it is, blackens the pots as fast as it cooks the food. Can you do an experiment with a round 1mm thick steel plate and a Fully asbestos covered mesh like we see they use on Alcohol Lamp Tripod while heating the Laboratory Glass Pots. That way the heat will be universal at pot base and no fear of blackening those pots. Anyway experienced campers use their Camp Stove with Chimney/Exhaust for cooking variety of foods with the top surface of Stove acting as a Heater. This experiment with both the 1mm thick 7''/9'' Diameter Steel Plate and a Full Asbestos Mesh will help us immensely.
One fun thing to do is once it is lit, increase the draft of the stove by putting a 4 inch stove pipe about 2 feet long on top of the gasifier stove. It will turn into a rocket stove. Don't leave the pipe on too long, it will start to melt.
My wood stove I fill the bottom with large pieces, build a kindle on top , once I light it burns 2 hrs before I need add wood, and makes big bed coals,called a Swedish fire , most make a kindle fire then feed 2 or 3 times , this saves time and wood using the upside down fire
Like the idea of these stoves a lot. A question though if I may..... as these are supposed to burn from the top down, how do you go about topping them up for a longer burn? If using the pellets would topping up towards the end of a burn starve the fire of air and put it out or would it be ok?
The part the drives me nuts is when 'they' blame the stove (or give it bad review) due to 'operator MISuse'. I often quote those 'sheeple' "This spoon is a HORRIBLE shovel!" Or when they constantly refer to it as a 'twig stove'. So much so that the manufacturer changed the design TO being a twig stove.
@@Rodsmokingstuff it works! But burn for less time: 20 minutes. Filled it with kinda wet small sticks at the top and bigger ones in the bottom, burns well. Only downside you have to start over anytime the charge finishes or burn from below, making it less efficient. But it's not a big deal i guess
www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWZ4ZLA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_AMZ37QYKN4A7M9AGBC2E?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 I use this saw to cut it into short sections then I baton it with my knife
I agree. I find it smokes more at first with the top lit. It all depends on the wood you’re using. How dry, type, size, etc. I hate how everyone says you’re doing it “wrong” if you light from the bottom. There is no wrong.
I don’t want a stove that burns for an hour . I want to boils a cup of water quickly . Bottom lighting may not be correct but it’s quicker. It’s also easier if you are just using a couple of dried leaves off the forrest floor and not a prepared aid to start the fire.
I have found a few pieces of charcoal next to the fire lighter will help a lot
I will try that
You are one of very few people I've seen on UA-cam who know how to use a top lit up draft (TLUD) wood burning stove properly. They are wonderfully efficient, clean by wood burning standards stoves when employed properly. No doubt you've helped many people enjoy their wood gas stoves more than ever. Thank you for making this video!
There's no need to use the abbreviations that other people have made up. It's always been a wood-gas stove so leave it that way.
Thank you
The key to your longer burn time is the thickness of the wood you used and the way you stacked it in the stove. I have only seen one other video done this way. Usually people use tinder sized twigs and have to feed the stove constantly. If all one wants is to boil some water that’s fine. However, to cook a meal in a pot or a pan, vertically stacking kindling sized wood is the way to go.
Wood pellets are amazing. The amount you used probably cost 10 cents and for cooking a meal you could use far less.
You can take those Baby Bell red wax covered cheese mini-rounds backpacking with you: if you unwrap the plastic, and leave that bit at home, you won't even have any garbage when you use the red wax to help start your stove.
I definitely appreciate you teaching us to use the stove properly! Subscribed!
Yey, someone who knows how to lite & use one of these gasifier! 👏👏👏 I think you’re generous when you say only 80% don’t do it correctly. I think it’s MORE LIKE 99%.
Lighting from the top is corrects. Maximum 3.5" in length pieces, inserted vertically to fill the combustion chamber. Dryer lint impregnated with petroleum jelly makes a dandy starter.
Thanks for doing it right and educating people! I love mine and can get abot 45 mins. out of mine when done properly. All the wood burns and should leave just a little pileof white ash. Just a great piece of gear.
I love these stoves
thanks for showing both ways, wood kindling and pellets. I have same stove and just bought some pellets but realise I do need a small grill to stop them falling through. Thanks again.
We have to Ohuhu and tried to light it from the bottom too! Wouldn’t have known without this, awesome
To get tinder to light the fuel, first cut 3/4 inch wooden cubes and soak them in a combustable liquid and keep them in a plastic jar with a lid. You can get these discarded jars from sauce or fruit jars that you buy at the food mart. Just make sure to drain the cubes before packing them with your camping gear but don't dry them, just keep them moist. They can, howerver, be used dry but will burn slower and not as fast as the wet ones. They, on the other hand, can be safer than the wet ones.
I keep IPA soaked slivers of pine in zip-loc bags to get things going quickly and vertical stacking of twigs is the way to go.
I've always used a cotton ball smeared with a little bit of Vaseline (petroleum) jelly. Never fails. I've been using a wood gas stove for a few years, and I love it. No fuel to buy or carry, and really easy to use in most conditions.
Your wood chunks should have been longer. About half an inch below the upper holes. Laying those pieces horizontally on top hindered the air movement between the vertical chunks. I seem to get the best performance by putting 4 or 5 vertical chunks right in the center that are a couple inches shorter than all the others and I sprinkle some shavings on top of the shorter ones and then my accelerant onto the shavings and light it. You really want unrestricted airflow between the chunks to speed up the downdraft effect. Vertical stacking is 100% the correct way. But it’s gonna eventually burn no matter how haphazardly you load it. But it will use less fuel and burn longer by using more substantial sized twigs/chunks stacked vertically. Keeping them below the upper wood gas vents is a must for a cleaner burn and longer run time. These are pretty easy to make by using two different sizes of tin cans too. But for $20 bucks, jeez, can’t beat em.
Nice video I have been using these stoves for a while and prefer to run them on pellets for sure , I get about 1 hour 10 mins from a full charge , I carry a good size ziploc bag in my pack and I find about 1 pound of pellets does the trick per charge, its always in my pack especially in the winter.
Well done! Clear, concise, no bullshit, thank you.
Sooo, I think I've been lighting it up wrong all this time. Lol. Go figure. Glad I came across these videos. Got the same wood stove too. Now when I camp out, I'll actually do it right.
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Very helpful. I like your table. Thank you!
It's a camp chef dutch oven table
Excellent informative video. We have two suggestions if you test them. The stove as efficient as it is, blackens the pots as fast as it cooks the food. Can you do an experiment with a round 1mm thick steel plate and a Fully asbestos covered mesh like we see they use on Alcohol Lamp Tripod while heating the Laboratory Glass Pots. That way the heat will be universal at pot base and no fear of blackening those pots. Anyway experienced campers use their Camp Stove with Chimney/Exhaust for cooking variety of foods with the top surface of Stove acting as a Heater. This experiment with both the 1mm thick 7''/9'' Diameter Steel Plate and a Full Asbestos Mesh will help us immensely.
One fun thing to do is once it is lit, increase the draft of the stove by putting a 4 inch stove pipe about 2 feet long on top of the gasifier stove. It will turn into a rocket stove. Don't leave the pipe on too long, it will start to melt.
My wood stove I fill the bottom with large pieces, build a kindle on top , once I light it burns 2 hrs before I need add wood, and makes big bed coals,called a Swedish fire , most make a kindle fire then feed 2 or 3 times , this saves time and wood using the upside down fire
Like the idea of these stoves a lot. A question though if I may..... as these are supposed to burn from the top down, how do you go about topping them up for a longer burn? If using the pellets would topping up towards the end of a burn starve the fire of air and put it out or would it be ok?
You can add some from the top if you need it to burn longer
Thanks for doing wood pellets too!
Great job man.👍
Nice ive been doing this all wrong, thanks for sharing.
Great video. Subscribed
Drives me nuts when they light it from the bottom to then complain about the smoke.
Dont burn your nuts and bottom!
The part the drives me nuts is when 'they' blame the stove (or give it bad review) due to 'operator MISuse'. I often quote those 'sheeple' "This spoon is a HORRIBLE shovel!" Or when they constantly refer to it as a 'twig stove'. So much so that the manufacturer changed the design TO being a twig stove.
Can you fill it with wet small wood sticks and still make the gasification work?
I have never tried that might work
@@Rodsmokingstuff it works! But burn for less time: 20 minutes. Filled it with kinda wet small sticks at the top and bigger ones in the bottom, burns well. Only downside you have to start over anytime the charge finishes or burn from below, making it less efficient. But it's not a big deal i guess
@thetheater7610 I will have to try that
awesome, this helped me a lot. Thanks!
what’s your favorite saw/tool for making kindling that size?
www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWZ4ZLA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_AMZ37QYKN4A7M9AGBC2E?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I use this saw to cut it into short sections then I baton it with my knife
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Great to see , please keep the vids coming .
It is much easier if you put some shavings on the top
Is this stove safe for indoor use ?
I would not use it indoors
30 minutes ain't bad.
Lets get cookig.
8 minutes and 23 seconds?
I can lite it in 8 seconds!!!
time travel detected!
If you want quicker gasification you want to light it from the bottom to heat the walls and get hotter ,faster air flow for gasification
These stoves are designed to be lit from the top
I agree. I find it smokes more at first with the top lit. It all depends on the wood you’re using. How dry, type, size, etc. I hate how everyone says you’re doing it “wrong” if you light from the bottom. There is no wrong.
I don’t want a stove that burns for an hour . I want to boils a cup of water quickly . Bottom lighting may not be correct but it’s quicker. It’s also easier if you are just using a couple of dried leaves off the forrest floor and not a prepared aid to start the fire.
Glad that is what you want