Benchmarking Intel CPU and Radeon GPU on Android?!?!?
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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Actually, because Android runs on the Linux kernel, it *IS* modular. The reason why you were able to use the AMD GPU on Android and not the Nvidia one, is because Linux has the Open Source AMD GPU stack built into the kernel already.
ye AMD strikes another blow!
I think you misunderstood what he meant...
He meant modular in terms of hardware
When is the last time you upgraded the ram in your phone? :D
@@garytallowin6623 the fact that he can just throw in a AMD GPU like that and have it work, and likely swap it out with another one is what *makes* it modular. phone manufacturers don't have much say in the software that interfaces with the hardware. also, it *is* possible to upgrade the RAM in your phone, it's been done before. android is designed to be modular because there's a wide variety of devices, if it WASN'T modular, then you wouldn't see so many different flavors of phones out there with different levels of hardware.
Also, Adreno used to be the movile side of the Radeon group.
I did not know this.... cool.
Transparent CPU Monitor is a good task manager type program to monitor cpu,gpu,and ram. also GLtools might help with some keyboard and mouse inputs.
Also im not surprised that AMD gpu's work better with android cause Adreno is actually a mobile AMD gpu division based GPU that Qualcomm bought from AMD.
Fun fact ADRENO is an anigram of RADEON.
Amazing!!!
So did Snapdragon buy AMD's IP then?
@@nexxusty I think you meant Qualcomm, that's like calling amd "ryzen" or calling Intel "core I"
Actually, that might not be the case. The AMD gpu drivers were already built into the kernel, as seen with Ubuntu, Mint Linux, and other distros. Sure, that adrenal fact is true, but that is not the case. If that were true, google would have partnered with Qualcomm and AMD to have AMD gpu support (or gpu with similar architecture) to be built into the system, not the kernel.
"Don't bring a fist to a gun fight."
You were saying?
no luck with nvidia GPUs since there's no driver code (or very little other than a basic software render passthrough) for them in the linux kernel, however, for AMD GPUs there's open source drivers for linux, most likely more has been merged with the kernel, same applies for intel integrated GPUs, also, the android system itself will run better on AMD GPUs anyway since all snapdragon based phones (there is kirin, exynos and mediatek) use adreno GPUs, which was a mobile GFX project under development by AMD in the mid to late 2000s, it was bought by qualcomm in 2009. So although its not GCN based, it shares similarities, so you will simply get better performance from AMD GPUs. also, adreno is an anagram of radeon.
sort of makes me happy to know that AMDs work is powering the majority of smartphones.
Not only did that guy get punched to death by a nude character, to add insult to injury, Timmy didn't even loot and then quit the game.
Savage.
When you went to your own show On UA-cam running on android Software, running on PC hardware, And me on my phone watching you in your studio, and you watching yourself on your monitor Hooked to a PC running android software, that was running UA-cam, that you were watching in your studio, Was a total inception moment!
i totally recommend this, i have ben using my old laptop to watch live tv for 2 months now, works perfectly.
linux requires a third party driver installed from nvidia's page for whatever linux distro your running you can also a controller or map your mouse to specific application functions. As far as sound you need to download the linux driver from evga or realtek if that is who makes the sound on the board and then install from terminal or do a full kernel rebuild.
Why!?
"Because I can".
Try Bluestacks or Nox, both Android emulators for windows PC's.
Do you know if the Bluestacks outperform on this Android x86 porting software? 4
Bluestacks runs VM, this is native Android.
Of course this is faster. In every conceivable way.
@@ShomyMK dual boot remix OS or something similar if you want the full performance, BlueStacks is shitty and full of adware anyways.
Gotta be pumped on that right Will Wooh!
The reason NVidia hardware suffers with Android/Linux is primarily because it lacks the driver stack to be able to function correctly, and NVidia's drivers are proprietary even on Linux/Android. AMD's drivers (AMDGPU) on Linux are open source and therefore are built straight into the kernel. Ergo, you would be able to run literally any AMD graphics processor on that machine. If you striggle with getting certain newer cards working, then you can grab the latest AMDGPU stack for Linux from AMD.
He's using a computer running android and I'm using a phone running android as a computer, what is this world becoming.
Just so you know I'm using Samsung dex.
Samsung Dex sucks for the simple fact it doesn't have spell check
He does a load of emulation stuff as ETA prime is an awesome wee channel 👍
I love how you used an HEDT platform for this, especially with the EVGA X299 Dark
Fun fact Adreno was originally called the ATI Imageon, ATI's mobile graphics division back in the day, AMD sold sold the mobile graphics division to Qualcomm and they renamed it to Adreno which is an anagram of Radeon. Also the Nvidia issue is mostly due to the very limited Nouveau open source Nvidia driver in the linux kernel, AMD and Intel uses the Mesa open source driver and it is their primary driver on Linux which is why AMD and Intel graphics work out of the box with little to no issue on android x86
That's really crazy how far phone soc's have come. The Samsung S20 Ultra has an antutu score of 500,000
600k 865
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its helpful for users who want to save extra money from buying android tv boxes...just built one yourself with old spare parts from last x86 machine ...cuase i know pc users go through many motherboards and chips and memory upgrades to latest and never had time to do with last gen parts in locked away in storage ...i just build 3 computers ...1 for security sysyem, 2nd for android tv streaming and my 3rd latest hardware configuration is for gaming and everything else under both os windows 10 and manjaro ...so i don't have to sell or throw away unused old parts from 4 year old configurations or 8 year old ones...it just works
Just a head up....most of those PUBG Mobile players are Bots...which is why you feel like a god when you play. I did (and thought) the same thing, until I was informed that they were mostly bots....lol
Get to bronze 1 or silver and will start seeing real players with a lot of damage
When I played the mobile version of PUBG on my pc, the mouse was literally just like the PC version. The look function was perfect, and the right and left click were perfect.
did this with an old laptop and it works great suddenly makes a slow old heap a useable bit off hardware again
rawalker666 yeah any old computer you got lying around could be repurposed to be a media, browsing and even gaming computer for android.
It’s good to know.
This is going to be nothing related to the video but do you know if a gigabyte 880GM motherboard will support a FX 8350? Good video by the way 👍
Dylan Rutland seriously dude!? How useless are you. Here I googled it for you.
www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=3475
@@warmage247 Thanks I guess.
Dylan Rutland 。゜(｀Д´)゜。
@@warmage247 Ah
hahahah i killed him hahahaha ... I hope your neighbors didn't hear you xDD
Hi. You did something i have always been looking to see! The apples to apples benchmark comparison between a proper desktop cpu and phone cpu. You can now actually see how much faster the desktop cpus actually are!
Nah you should just i9 9900k with rtx 2080ti and just absolutely destroy all the benchmarks on mobile when it's all compatible. That be awesome to see.
9900k @5.2 GHZ and 2080 Ti @2250 MHZ
@@Dave-dh7rt exactly XD
I was laughing so hard I choked on my own spit. lol
If I see this performance difference I wonder how Apple would ever be able to base their future Mac on ARM processors?
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I find Android-x86 useful as a secondary PC. It interestingly doesn't use traditional emulation. Android-x86 isn't like an emulator like BlueStacks. Almost everything runs natively. When games do include native ARM code, it uses a translator developed by Intel called libhoudini. The translator translates ARM instructions to x86 on the fly, so they seem as if they're running natively, although it still has overhead like an emulator. My biggest issue with this is that it currently does not support any games written for ARMv8-A, only ARMv7-A. A lot of newer Android games like all of Nintendo's games as well as Genshin Impact won't even install since they require more modern ARM support. BlissOS has ARMv8-A support but in my experience it's way too buggy to be practically usable and they have not even released a new "stable" release in years.
That cop you shot, was that the sherif or the deputy
This I believe is the first stable version and all the other before were betas so give it a bit of time ! Timmy Joe did you try using a Microsoft controller ? Wonder how it supports multi monitors ?
4:50 A KEPLER GPU did not work??! Nvidia Made a Shield Tablet K1, with a Kepler GPU of 192 CUDA cores - and IIRC it runs either Kitkat or Oreo! The only difference is that, IIRC, Tegra Kepler does Tiled Rasterization, whereas normal does not. Maxwell PROBABLY would have worked, same with Pascal!
Yes Timmy ...eta prime is a awsome dude....n funny I have 2xasus tinker boards and 1 of the older latte pandas 4g model...awsome vid man!! Cool 2 see u do this!!
Timmy Joe are you still looking for a P55 system to review?
been using bluestacks
Meanwhile the phone:why are we still here
Did you try plugging in speakers from the HD audio port. That is how I got audio to work on my Android build.
My computer during install says detecting Android and then goes to a black screen with a cursor on the top left corner and just then just black. Any advice.
thats pretty cool TJ, it would cool if you installed some linux distros like Ubuntu or Elementary OS to test out on AMD or Intel hardware.
I tryed this a while back after ETA Prime did his first video on it. I had the same issue, wouldn't work for me with a 1050 ti. It would not output video. I made a virtual machine with the ISO to play around with it though. I also don't think it's "emulating" an ARM CPU though, pretty sure it's x86/x64 Linux running a virtual machine of Android possibly because it uses GRUB, etc. I know it's not ARM though because ARM apps don't work on it.
Es ARM modificado
The reason why no Nvidia graphics solution works is that they have proprietary drivers, AMD has open source drivers
Nvidia didn't make open source drivers for Linux, however they exist.
Just not within the Android-x86 Kernel yet. That's all.
Timmy Joe Death Punch! So funny. Great content as always.
android muscle have more HP than it need with Biturbos and nitrous
I also turned my old i5-2400 computer ( 8Gb ram , and RX460 2Gb ) into a Android PC ! It is a lot of fun !
Good way to safe older PC's !
gertjan van der meij have you tried emulation?
OH I WAITED FOR A VIDEO LIKE THIS for soo long!!!
Built in audio probably didn't work due to the Creative sound chip.
I think the problem you're having with your sound is is probably trying to out put your sound through your motherboard. If you install Bluetooth audio device or an audio device emulator might work.
a my question is how well can this be used for a home theater setup? Because there's a lot of Android TV boxes out there but they all kind of suck for gaming. The Nvidia Shield TV is the best one that costs over three hundred bucks. Maybe this is something that could be tested on lower end hardware like a what you would find on a $100 Dell optiplex or something. Windows and Mac don't really have a very good TV intuitive interface, I know Android TV is excellent.
Which GPU are you using??? You never say
I have nvidia graphics that may be why I couldn’t get it to work
Install it to a VM if you have a decent system
Have you thought about chrome is running Android apps on that setup?
amd athlon ii x2 250 does not work on any android os. is there a way to run android without error
Bluestacks is a good way of doing this, they adapt the android controls properly to keyboard and mouse
By the way the saying Bobs your uncle means it’s very easy
Do an older pc on Android. Do like the minimum specs that will run stuff decently
It would be awesome if a full desktop pc powered by a single smartphone battery.
I tried playing mobile games on my Acer Chromebook that supports Google play store and had similar issues. In pubg some things didn't work so I gave up. On the other hand, some apps like the UA-cam music app looks better than it's Android counterpart (in my opinion).
Is it my speakers or there's way to much bass in this audio
Connect speakers or headphones via Bluetooth if your motherboard supports it, and audio will work 🙂
Which GPU did you use ?
This has got to be the most interesting video I've seen all day
The benchmarks arent exactly accurate due to the difference In instruction sets with Cisc and risc
If you tried bluestacks you may be able to get it working with a nvidia card :P it's super easy to use as well
If they could release graphic drivers for Android x86, that would seriously be the end of Windows.
How did you get the ethernet working?
Android is very good if you want get very old PCs/Laptops fit again if they can't handle Win7/8/10 any more. I give the tip to buddys before, because Gaming and using newer Programs on such old Hardware isn't Possible. But as Media PC ok. Android gives you all the Apps you need, also for Office and stuff. And you can Surf in the Internet without fear for Viruses.
Or you could try to install the Android SDK and it gives you a sandbox to test apps in
Feel the power...
so what ur saying is an iphone 10s max gets a 3rd the score an i7 7820x does in geekbench a third the perfomance on way less than a third of the power WOWUWEEWA.
Be hella curious to know how much better or worse this is than Bluestacks. Good video.
Now run PC software on android!
Use app named "octopus" for mapping keyboard and mouse
10:46 I thought it was a video within a video within a video.
can you try this with Ryzen APU?
Dark matter os is Android x86 os developed for gaming
Well you can try some other flavor of Android x86, like Bliss x86, Phoenix OS, Prime OS. And community has solved the hdmi problem. A tutorial on how to install Android x86 in HDMI mode.
Will graphic card function on android x86 without driver installed.(I ask this because HOW THE HELL WE CAN INSTALL .EXE FILE ON ANDROID!😭)
My and pc does not ru want to boot android x86
There are Android devices that runs natively with x86. The ZenFone 2 line all runs on Intel atoms(it works but a hot mess), intel all but abandoned this project however android still have this kind of code. I don't think anything was emulated, it is real x86.
when on the first two minutes of the video you see someone from my country playing with timmy i envy that guy D;
I guess my Threadripper finally has a purpose.
Nvidia and UNIX (Linux, Android)have problems
You know you can just use bluestacks app player to play android games on a pc
You can root desktop Android and add a build prop edit to unlock the 60 fps cap
Waoo, and now latest mobile SoC surpasses 1Million points on antutu.
does it work with gt 9600 1gb ddr3 ?
anyone know if android x86 have a trick to edit gpu frequencys?
Is there a way to install chrome os? Would make a good htpc
dat build tho last time i tried it was android 4.4 release
holy crap he's mad man. Doin all kinda magics.
You should benchmark linux next it's mostly click to install for games, and you can try normal pc games. Ubuntu or linux mint will work just fine. Oh, and nvidia graphics do have proper driver support, heck I got firestrike to work through steam play from valve!
android os is only good as streaming platform ...thats all....its not gonna play wine, windows games, or linux games....only android apps...and nothing to mess with ....just like android tv...
Someone please reply, Do you think it would be possible to install Android on my PC and then have it display on a phone sized touchscreen display so I could have a very powerful phone? I really like playing cod Mobile and I want to be able to enjoy it at max settings but I don't want to buy a new phone, I already have a good PC though
I used to play with android emulators, back when fallout shelter was released on mobile, I wanted to play it on my desktop computer so I installed a android emulator to do so until they released it on steam, I ended up getting that version and stopped playing with android emulators after that
It still needs work, but this is the future for obsolete computers
Blue stacks is a thing too and its way easier to use
Nox works well 2
Kinda cool, looking at it, looks like a version of Lineage OS
Guys, does ati radeon hd5450 will work?
Just for gits and shiggles I ran Sling Shot on my OnePlus 5T and scored 4774 With a graphics score of 5823, Physics score of 2928