Worship Guitar - What NOT to do when it comes to Soloing - Paul Baloche and Ben Gowell
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2011
- This video will explain when to solo in a worship service, and how to do it. These two things are very important, so please don't skip pass. Enjoy, and I hope you like the lesson!
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Hey everyone, this is Ben Gowell. Crazy, I hadn't seen this video in many years, and just came across it here. There's a lot of good dialogue in the comments, and some great challenges as well!
I thought I might add in just a few thoughts here, nearly 12 years after the making of this video.
There is definitely no one RIGHT way to approach music in any style. The beauty in music and art is the wide variety of creativity and expression that transcends ‘genre’ and even culture! Regardless of style and approach, whether more understated, or forwardly melodic, leaning into that expression to the fullest is key. Musical expression filled with joy and wonder is an inspiring thing!
Listening to others we are making music with and responding to one another in the moment is something I continue to believe is so important. I think the heart behind this small section of the video, both for Paul and myself, was to underscore this idea. I certainly would not limit it to the ‘worship’ music genre, but extend this principle to any artist wishing to create great art/music in collaboration with others.
And lastly, play it! I would never recommend for anyone to play timid, or to come away from this video thinking that ‘guardrails’ are king in your musical expression. If it’s a strong solo, play it with everything you’ve got. A section of the song where you are adding ambient texture, play it with everything you’ve got. A portion of the song where you refrain from playing, listen to the other musicians and support the moment with everything you’ve got.
Music is a language - an incredible gift for communication of thoughts and emotions that hopefully inspires all of us. Give it everything you have, listen to each other, and don’t look back!
All the best,
Ben
Hey Ben. It is pretty discouraging to see this thread become what it is. Thankful for you man. Keep going.
(Response to musicians on here) It is all about serving each song. Learning and writing mature but dynamic parts is tough for most musicians I think. Ben said something great at 11:13 about thinking about the lyrics when you play. If the words of the songs we choose are being masked or if a musician is literally in the spotlight then we have challenged where the glory is going in that moment and that I believe is one of our biggest dangers in our times together these days. Good challenge for each of us. When in doubt, play (with passion) the melody. No shame there and it points the church back to the words they are singing which is a good goal.
when I play at church I like to keep it mellow. only kick a couple of speakers over, an save ripping my shirt off till the end song when I jump up on the piano for my final solo.
funny dude.....maybe I should say FD........I have an aversion to LOL
+Johnny BeGood haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa im crying in laughter
Johnny BeGood lol
the Lord has moved me to a remote rural village in the pacific as a missionary and there were times that ive had to play and lead people in worship with only 5,4 or 3 strings on the guitar and still loved every moment of it as peoples lives rejoiced in singing....
I've been playing in worship for a number of years now. 90% of the time, the leads are melodic lines that enhance the song. There are some solos, but they are rare, which is fine because you don't want to take people out of a worshipful mood with 5 minutes of sweep picking. My goals are: don't be obnoxious; excite people; be the "icing on the cake;" enhance the mood. There is opportunity to improvise asl well. I am definitely on the rocking out end of the spectrum though!
Ben Gowell and Paul Baloche are truly an anointed worship musicians! God bless them!
I’m a worship leader who plays electric. Growing up, I listened to mostly Tommy Walker and Maranatha! Music, thanks to my parents. When I was just getting started in my guitar career, I found this video with Paul and Ben. At that time in my life, it was the kind of sobering advice I needed to hear.
A few years down the road, I listened all the way through the “Today Is the Day” album by Lincoln Brewster. At the end of the song, “God You Reign,” Brewster took nearly everything Paul Baloche said at the start of this video and threw it out the window. It was a liberating experience, and was exactly what I needed to hear at that time. So, why did that work, and why was it still engaging instead of distracting?
In my opinion, this is one of those rare cases when both approaches are right at their core.
Here’s what I mean, and what I learned from both: 1) Every instrument should serve the song and the moment. When you’re noodling over everything, you’re not really engaging in what’s going on with the vocals and the rest of the ensemble. That’s common sense. 2) Expression in worship is not limited to the lead vocal performer. If the words of our songs were the only thing that honored God, He wouldn’t ask for the other stuff. But, He does. See Psalm 33:3, 1 Corinthians 13, Romans 12:1. That pretty much covers the gamut of what God could ask of us in worship. That’s biblical.
God wants our best, not just our leftovers or mindless noodles. He wants excellence from us and He made us to complement each other. That extends to corporate worship, the way we craft, play, and sing songs to Him. It’s us giving glory to Him as we bear His creative, communal image. That is what I see at the heart of this video-trying to make worship excellent and engaging. There is something here to be learned for every guitarist, and especially those who are just starting out. I’m glad I didn’t start out trying to play every lick I knew, and I generally wouldn’t recommend that as a goal in any worship set. Having the right tools is great, but knowing where to use them is better.
I have been a worship guitarist and vocalist since '02 and I totally agree that using your instrument to support and enhance the complete sound and the moment is right on. It's not about us, it's about Him. We should never do anything in worship to draw attention to ourselves.
Lincoln is literally the only Christian guitarists that isn't just plain boring to me. Flashy? sometimes but it fits with the songs and is never over the top.
Agreed. Not necessarily a worship guitarist in the same respect as Brewster, but still a Christian guitarist playing Christian music, check out Aaron Guerra from Tourniquet, Michael Sweet and Oz Fox from Stryper.
Tommy Walker is another great example, phenomenal worship leader and guitarist.
First of all, this is a great instructional video for a beginner electric guitar player, someone who is just starting to get comfortable playing lead licks and scales, but hasn''t figured out how to be part of a band, part of a greater worship collective. I too, have been guilty of, and experienced instrumentalists enter into a 'showoff' mode.
This video is amazing - absolute worship musician GOLD. For everyone criticizing it saying it's vague and easy, give it a try. Playing a simply solo beautifully and in perfect context of the song is very hard. The best guitarists I have ever heard have played the most simple solos with almost no pedals or effects and have captured the moment with such excellence that you couldn't help but get caught up. Give it a try first and go for the feel rather than just the notes.
I've played with a few worship bands for 5 or so years now, and have lead in one of them. I've played piano, bass, guitar, and drums. What I've learned is that you have to flow with each other. You need to know each other through fellowship, studying scripture, witnessing. When you're playing you are playing to God. I believe that one should solo like crazy and play a Hosanna like solo's, it depends on what God is doing through you at the time.
Love God, love people, love music, and play.
It's amazing how easy it is for people to criticize. This instructional video is intended to help new electric guitarists know what/how to play with a worship team. The last thing they are trying to do is control people.
There are many different types of worship settings so stop the whining that he is trying to limit your personal freedom or didn't have a strong enough example of a shredding solo. At least he has a proven track record of leading worship for many years along with recording contracts. That's more than most of us have.
I'm glad I'm mostly doing regular gigs because the restrictions of "don't play this note or that note" for me is something not good. It's lack of trust. Call some other guitar player if you don't like my style but don't go superspiritual on me and construct a problem which isn't there.
Most gigs I have you need to be a good rythm player and depending on style and artist you might get to solo 3-4 times on 25 songs. Or on every other song when I play with my cover band and share the stage with a phenomenal guitar player.
If my gift of music comes from God above, don't mess with it. Let me play my heart out when I have a solo, that's what I do and that touches people, I know that much. If you ask me for rythm guitar only, no solos for a worship gig that's fair. Picking my playing apart if you bring me in to play rythms and solos isn't. That's BS.
I feel like this could also have been titled "How to keep worship guitar phrasing boring" or "How to not be a musical threat to your worship leader, pastor or congragation"...too bad that worship music is so timid.
Kevan Campbell musical threat ?????
You may be confusing it with Christian concert. If you feel the need to crank away on lead guitar during worship, you may need to check your heart at the door. I have been playing in that capacity for over 30 years. It’s not about satisfying your ego.
You're like the pretentious violinists in an orchestra whenever the brass get the melody and strings play chords.
people will always misinterpret what others say. People who disagree with this video surely shows what type of personality they have, sure playing for if he's giving you talent, but are you using it for the right cause? Playing to show God how thankful you are for giving you this talent and playing just to show people how amazing you are with your talent are two different things.
i love your teaching way and I've been learning a lot by you. God bless you...
This was great help for praise teams, thank you!
The info here is a definite take you guys rock im grateful
I think there are some good points in this, and this should be the case whether in worship, rock, metal, or jazz; let the leads flow with the music, complimenting it and stirring emotions. But at the same time, don't limit yourself to what merely fits. The best solos are expressive, and not always what's "right." :)
What a awesome your name, JESUS thank god for giving a beautiful and meaningful song by Bro Paul Baloche
This was an awesome video, as a worship leader and an electric guitarist this was spot on
Some worthwhile comments made here. I just listened to a band called My Epic. They seem to have a good take on the use of guitars for worship. The act of worship involves the total self in giving praise, thanksgiving and reverence in humility to God. That can take as many forms as there are brush strokes on canvas. My advice is to be innovative and skilful in your playing (whatever you play).
(In reference to the video, but also to some of the discussions on this page....) This may be the silliest discussion about worship music ever.... (Okay, the one about bass players riding the root note is sillier! That one is almost abusive!) Here's what I've learned over the last 40 years of leading worship: TAKE ALL THE RULES AND THROW 'EM OUT! Tossing the rules is how we introduced guitars, keyboards, bass, and drums into a church music world that was clinging to the organ and/or a piano. Think of the new ideas you might introduce to worship!! Break the rules and you'll find entire new ways to lead a congregation in worship! Ideas that the current generation has never even considered! Concerning guitar solos, etc.... The Holy Spirit isn't playing your guitar - you are! Stop trying to "spiritualize" pushing 12 notes around a fret board or a keyboard. If we hadn't had Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton experimenting with distortion or The Edge going nuts with multiple echo units, Christian music today would sound radically different than we know it! (And probably a lot more boring!) My point: don't sit around and wait for someone else to come up with "something new!" YOU - guitarist who plays too many notes or bass player who doesn't ride the root note - YOU be the person who comes up with something new! Instead of Christians adapting secular sounds to worship, I want to see a new generation of Christian musicians set the pace for the entire music world! Guitarists: Play too many notes! Drummers: For Heaven's sake, stop letting them put you inside boxes! (You look ridiculous!) Bass players: Get off of that root note! (Go listen to Chris Squire and John Entwistle!) Keyboard players: DO SOMETHING besides hold spacey sounding chords as filler! (Bach is turning over in his grave!!!!) Will you try ideas that don't work: Yes, you'll fail - a lot!!!! But, if you stay true to yourself, you'll also break new ground and succeed gloriously - a lot!!!! Don't let anyone put you in a box!!!! And worship leaders: Let your musicians stretch and grow. Frankly, the "new stuff" is starting to sound pretty stale! What you play is not God playing through you. It's not magic! Don't spiritualize it! What you play is your gift to God and his people! Don't bring Him a lame gift! Bring something new! "I will sing to the Lord a New Song" - not a U2 rip-off! Break new ground! Of course - to do so - you're going to have to break some rules....
Very simple explanations...anyone can understand and learn from this. From a beginner to an advanced player. This covers the nuances that are sometimes missed.
The most important thing he is doing is playing chord tone whenever the chords change while staying in the e minor pentatonic scale. Or at least resolving to chord tones. The scale itself fits all 4 chords he is playing. The added tone is the F#. Actually they are playing a lot of suspensions - C with added A's, G's with added E's and then C major stressing non-chord tones on the down beats.
All these song do have the same progressions. Play the melody, know it in all 12 keys. same with chords
Two more thoughts: learn all the chord voicings and forms up and down the neck. You can do a LOT with triads on the high strings if you know the right chord forms. You can form melodies, add sustained notes, get tension from full and half-step changes that you let ring... And if you do get to cut loose, be melodic and lyrical. That will go a lot further than playing a thousand notes, but you can use the speed to get around from place to place. Be musical!
Great tutorial. Thanks for taking the time guys.
Awesome. Amazing video. I love your heart toward worship. keep up the good work for Jesus. I was encouraged by this video
I think it totally depends on the situation and the heart of the player. The solo in Hosanna totally works with that song, and that's great. However, I think some people confuse differences in genre for moral authority. Worship and praise music is designed to be easily sung along to and easily played for worship bands that may not have a lot of rehearsal time. There's nothing wrong with technical playing if it's genuine, well thought out, and serves the song.
Correct IMHO. Tommy Walker and Lincoln Brewster are examples of very gifted worship artists as well as electric guitarists that do amazing full blown guitar solos in Worship at times. The distraction is when musicians try to do that who don't know what they're doing technically attempt something like that.
That should totally be ok no matter where you are! People shouldn't hold back in their worship! If it's your gift... And God directs you to play that... Then there is power in that solo! It is interpretation and creativity that God blessed that worshipper with! So worship! Be free in worship!!
I loved this lesson/video! I play in a worship team too and I know that the video is 100% right!! sorry for my bad english lol
Hillsong has a blog post that is specifically about instruments as well, they mentioned that the silence and space of a guitar or piano or instrument can be just as much worship as the loudest noise, I love the simplicity in worship guitar , simply because it adds, and doesnt become the main thing, leaving room for Christ to be the center of everything
Knowing what compliments the feel of the current song you're playing and adapting (either by hanging back or adding more) is a trait every musician needs.
In many different bands, I've played with musicians (not just guitarists) who've seen solos simply as an excuse to show off: they didn't realise at all that what they were playing was ruining the song, and not enhancing it!
Playing hard and fast is cool, sure; But it's knowing WHEN to do so that makes you a good musician. (Not Sunday church)
Great advice, nice style for worship!
Awesome tips thank you so much!
Although soloing is about matching the song's mood, you're still playing guitar, and playing guitar is all about showing your feelings through music and playing what you want. So, I think the lesson here is that solo when ever you want, but don't overpower everyone in the band.
Awesome. Amazing video.
Excellent comments. This is where I want to go with electric guitar!
Great Lesson!
The thing that bothered me the most about the "bad" solo exemplified later in this video is that it is being used as an example of why shredding or otherwise complex playing is not acceptable in worship, yet that solo would have been bad in any context. The issue with the solo sample provided was not that it had "shred" licks but that the licks chosen were played poorly. His bending is out of tune, he clearly did not pick notes that worked consistently within the key, and he overindulged on the wah pedal among other things. Of course it's a bad solo, but it's not bad for the reasons claimed in the video.
What works as a "good" guitar solo for a song is going to vary depending on the piece. Some riffs, chord progressions, and tempos ask for a more demanding solo that moves across the fretboard, and some will call for ones that are more simple as exemplified throughout the video. What I've found over time (I've played guitar for nine years, seven as a member of my church's worship team) is that the best solos, in general, tend to strike a balance between complex and simple. They are melodic when necessary, and they are complex when appropriate. It's all about playing to the song, but not using this mantra as an excuse to play overly-simplistic licks or criticize those who strive to incorporate elements of complexity and diversity into their playing.
Im not personally christian but I loved playing the music in church. It was awesome to be able to hit people in the heart with music. Luckily for me my church let me express myself with my guitar more than some and honestly, Hosanna was one of my favorites to solo to. It was always a very U2 kind of solo. Felt soooo good.
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. I play lead electric and am a Music Business major, and Ben's Hosanna solo sounds amazing and incredibly powerful to me, really adding to the song. And actually, worship music has more variety today than ever before, and the christian/worship music business is one of the fastest growing.
This is just fantastic. Ben is an extremely tasteful player. I'm really inspired to reign in some of my Guitar Hero antics and keep it simple and "hooky." The best guitar solo hook EVER is in "God of Wonders." Note that everybody who covers that song does that solo verbatim.
YOURE RIGHT THATS WHY HES ON HERE AND YOURE WELL WATCHING HIM!
As a jazz/rock guitarist fast flashiness is everything! I've found that this is so different with the whole hold back style.
love that telecaster!
Yes of course...we can..Music has always be spirit!
"I'll set my delay..."
What a surprise.
These guys are speaking really truthful and sincere words! All these things that they've said are constantly happening and there's no hard and fast rules. They're just stating their opinions and views, I know some of us play diff genre of worship music, some more rock and some more easy listening. So gotta be more discerning and listen to opinions with open hearts.
Music is such a great tool for worship and hence Satan wants to use this opportunity to make conflict. Big/Small.
Praise God!
Who thinks at 09:54 was AWESOME! Much better than usual :) Love your music Paul!
u and ur gutairist are incredible! I wish I cud play like either of u.
This is a very well -trained,and aware Team player,and most likely a Worship Leader in his home Church.He's sensitive to the singer's needs,and the listener's response..That's his job!The comment about 'drawing the listener in' is right on,and this takes big ears and an open heart.Ultimately,the music's purpose is to prepare the listener for the message.That being said,there is room to open up...Showing off? Hardly! Listen to Phil Keaggy,or Neal Morse!
After hearing Ben do the first part of Hosanna, I just had to hear the whole song. The solo in the middle is one of my absolute favorites. CG CG DEFEDE Simple but perfectly powerful, like the trumpets at Jericho.
Other than the voice, the modern electric guitar is the most expressive musical instrument out there (imho). It would be a major disservice to our God for a blessed guitarist to withhold "skillfully playing a joyful noise" in worship. This is especially true if its done mainly to not upset the musical sensibilities of other "people". There's absolutely nothing wrong with an "over the top" solo IF its meant to glorify our "over the top", awesome God! Unfortunately, it's the prevailing attitude of this video that makes a lot of "mainstream" Christian music sound generic, uninspired and boring to the masses we're trying to bring to God...its time to bring the divine, bombastic sounds of true Davidic worship back!
Any instrument can be the most expressive instrument 'out there'. Miles Davis was able to make me tear up with one note on his trumpet. It ventures into self glorification when people start worrying about when their turn to 'shine' is going to come.
I agree 100% with De Leon
When you're playing too aggressively that it distracts the rest of the band and especially the congregation, then it's wrong. You may feel empowered but if it affect others negatively, then you're just being selfish. What the videos trying to teach is to be aware of the situation and play accordingly. I f it's okay to shred, then just shred, if it's not then tone it down.
The reason the congregation or band may be distracted is because they've been formatted by the same, boring worship music over and over, and so anything different is seen as distracting and not God-pleasing. When you actually do worship music in which the musicians' talents and gifts are actually used, the music is full of awesome guitar riffs and bass runs and keyboard riffs and drum fills, and none of it is distracting.
Simple summary and lesson applicable to all P and W band members, "play to the song".
It's a matter of the heart... I had a lead guitarist in one of my teams that ... all he wanted was to show off.. his glory... not His glory. that's what Paul is talking about. it's a matter of the heart... and only God truly knows the heart... although somtimes it's obvious when the "me monster" arrises in us. to God be the glory my friends...
I definitely don't think the intent of the video is to say, "You should play like this, but not like this." It's TOTALLY about the heart like Perry said, and if you're playing in order to draw attention to yourself, it's wrong.
As worship leaders we have a responsibility to not distract people. Sometimes as electric guitarists we can have this awesome riff that to us is full of passion and worship, but to a lot of people listening it can jump out of the flow of the song and make the focus what the electric guitarist is doing. The whole purpose of music in worship (music is not worship, only one small expression of it) is to help people to turn their hearts to remember who God is and what He has done. Having an emotional experience without the end of result of your heart and mind being more focused on God is a complete waste. We can distract people by making the music so entertaining that it's hard to remember the actual purpose and message of the song and what it says about God, and people just remember that it's rocking and made them feel like raising their hands and clapping.
So many movements in the modern church are about emotion and feeling God and having a walk that exists hopping from one emotional experience to the next. If we train people that being close to God is an emotional rush rather than a discipline of turning our hearts to Him by reminding ourselves of who He is, we do a great disservice to them. The next time their emotions falter (because our hearts are wicked and not prone to follow God) they're going to feel far from God. They're going to seek ways to feel that emotional buzz again rather than practice the discipline of causing themselves to remember the facts about who God is.
Hopefully that makes sense what I'm getting at and how it relates to the video. The main thing is always always remember that being in front of people, we have a huge responsibility for them to not make them stumble, and not cause them to focus on us as musicians but on the God that we're singing about. Worship music is simply a means to the end of disciplining ourselves to remember what God has done, not some kind of glorious end in and of itself.
Matt W Also, I didn't feel like the "out of control" solo was all that distracting. Just goes to show that you have to have sensitivity for the people you're leading. If you have a heart to put the attention on God and not yourself you should be fine :)
Don't love the idea of keeping a guitar player in a box like this... I guess my situation is unique. I can agree with not being "over the top," but there's something to be said about being tasteful, even if it sounds impressive. I'm never too worried about keeping it simple, just let it flow. I don't think the deacons will have a heart attack, rest easy, Mr. Baloche
sweet man that makes me happy. I guess that's just the feeling I got.
That acoustic mcpherson sound's absolutely great!!!!
Why was I sure that I would find people fighting on the comentaries of a religious themed video? Great solo by the way, very melodic, really moved me!
I wholeheartedly agree. I have no doubt about good intentions. There's an old saying about good intentions, however. We can't be so afraid of pride that we don't take advantage of God's gifts and use them to further His name to the world.
That solo was awesome! Hahaha...that was some great advice what not to do!
totally agree with u man, there are no rules i music i think, as long as your confident in what you're playing
Devin... I agree with you and Lincoln and with Paul and Ben it is all about listening... be support not the front man. Bring people before the throne. Listen to Ben "Play out and Play aggressively"
I agree with Parker King.
This IS worship music, which is NOT ALWAYS a concert. But that also doesn't mean you can't be CREATIVELY EXPRESSIVE. Just shouting out of passion. ☺
I understand your point about the two solo's and how one is melodic and the other is over the top. I would think they both work on a Sunday morning but they have two separate purposes. The first one kept the mood tender and melodic, while I would have used the second if I were supposed to build at that point. If you're building during the solo, then it wasn't over the top.
ya know, I play on a worship team, with talents God himself gave to me, some of the comments arent even worth discussing, but in regards to soloing, well, I am a soloist, virtuoso in style and finesse, and when it comes time for me to worship him, I will do just that, if the song or mood calls for it softly, then it does, but I use what room and feeling I am given, and I play to the best of my ability to encourage the emotions in a worship session. Our job is to praise Him.
Part 3- The greatness of God should be declared with all of what we are. BUT, it needs to be the intent to worship God with all of what we have been given. That is definitely the heart of Lincoln Brewster. People are captivated by what he does and they linger to hear more. The message of his music has more weight because he gives all that he has for God's glory.
Those are my two cents.
@snowtraveler65 Agree. Paul's Your Name song is a great example of not overdoing what we do, as the worship team, but leaving space.
I like this video. Paul and his mate are simply giving advice on guitar soloing in your typical, day to day worship songs. If your not up for 'typical, day to day worship songs', write something else. Not that 'Light of the World' gets boring or anything, but its time a couple of new genre's made it to the Church. God put something different inside everyone of us.
that experience taught me much about Worship and Being limited in Worship because we cannot play like Van halen_God doesnt need our music...He has a whole host of angels making music to Him like we can never imagine...its the Heart of worship that He is interested in_We can play simple and be worshiping in spirit and in truth.
Having heart that is more willing to serve the people you are leading in worship than to show how skilled you are is extremely important. Not all people enjoy Hendrix and they aren't sinning because of it, neither should we look down on them. If you are going to stand in front of people and say "Hey, lets worship but you better like the way I to it" is the oposite of worship.
@BASICISAB I think this also goes for the singers. We have to be aware of volume and mix levels,
and be sure it's not taken as we are trying to promote ourselves. But instead be that humble servant's heart, that humble (yet confident and skilled) player that we are trying to be to Glorify HIM!
God is very much glorified when the heart of the soloist is humble before him, man is very much glorified when his abilities are his motivation. Most times only God can discern the heart of man.
Thanks guys. Great instruction.. couple of things for lead guitarist in worship band (note to self) ... don't just play lead because it is easier than learning the chords .. know the chords and work with them and around them ... find suitable timbre for worship, rather than one pedal/sound fits all and pray about your sound too ... and most importantly be humble before the Lord .... Note to keyboard players - don't try to be a one man band and leave no room for anyone else .
Marcus Miller is one of my all time favorite musicians alive today. What a class act.
Keep in mind this is the same guitarist that worked with Lincoln Brewster who absolutely shreds for God on Sunday morning and every other day. He shares the gifts God has given him every Sunday. Anybody heard Let Your Glory Shine? He sure didn't seem to have an issue with this soloing when working with Linc.
What is worship people. If it is truly spirit led, then why worry about what solo is playing, whether it's too soft or too strong. People worry so much about having perfect conditions to be able to worship. How about you let a guitar player praise in his best way. It's not about the audience it's about playing for our Savior. Read Colossians 3:23.
Well the Bible says that the heart is deceitful and just because the holy spirit dwells in us doesn't mean whatever we do is appropriate before God . We must check it before the scripture and check our hearts
typical church solo of the day,, rythmic solo is what it is, primarily based on the style of U2
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Our family who all either play or sing or both took in a Tommy Walker clinic when they came into town. As a guitarist I learned a lot about focusing on supporting the song, helping to deliver the message, not trying to serve my own ego. We have a sign as we prepare to walk on stage which reads; "It's all about Jesus." It's to help remind each of us to remember our purpose as a member of the band, deliver the message intended in each song, to glory the Lord with talents He has blessed us with.
i watch this video regularly to make sure i dont go over the top but just worship and magnify the name of Jesus !!!
Amen
@Corundem Agreed, but Lincoln is the worship/song leader so he is providing the direction for the band. This video is intended for those guitarists that are in a supporting role, but I think you know that. :)
Great discussion, I'm glad to see other people see it the way I do. The only thing this Paul guy (I don't care about his credentials, it doesn't make him the expert or guru on the subject) an acoustic player, can tell a lead player is to turn it down or turn it off. Lead guitar is the most underused/understated, misunderstood/misused instruments in Contemporary Christian today. All you upcoming lead guitar players, do it your way (appropriately to the song), be your own player, and practice.
These guys have it right, lead guitar in contemporary worship is not about showing off or technique, its about adding to the environment of the congregation. There are a small handful of songs where metal techniques come in, I sometimes use "Dime" squeals, tremolo picking, and fast arpeggios, etc on Sunday morning, but that is the exception not the rule. Its a demanding role because you will be heard, and its so easy to become a point of focus instead of you putting the focus on God.
Dime squeals? lol in worship? ummmm ok. I disagree.
A lot of contemporary songs have a lot of modern style guitar and techniques, the idea is not to abuse eccentric playing, but if it adds to the moment then why not? I play very conservatively in worship, NEVER to try and stand out or show off, but sometimes we do faster very modern style songs where there is room to move away from plucking or strumming open position chords. Our congregation enjoys the different style of songs each worship team plays.
@BASICISAB Tricky area of course, because as a listener in the congregation/audience, and as a guitar player, we like to see and listen to some guitar work, of course, beyond just chunking out chords.
Melody over Speed.
to those many comments there, music is made to boost the lyrics of the song, so we musicians are supposed to help the church to sing for agod, to boost the emotions in their hearts, read psalms for example, you will see a lot there. there are chapters which talk about music. if my memory serves me right.
I find it amazing that 'worship leaders' these days choreograph their performances to emotionally manipulate their congregations to feel what they are feeling and not what God wants them to feel. They are selfishly motivated to obtain the praise of the congregation for their own glory and stifle any move of God or prompting of the holy spirit or improvisation that God may be inspiring.
We will be glad to have Ben come and rock out at our church! LOL!
Amen!
the pride in this video is strong
Not quite as strong as the pride that a lot of guitarists have.
yeah, that'd be great, I'd love to check it out!! :) GOD bless..
its a good lesson.
This is good advice - it's easy to get carried away on electric guitar and lose touch of what's going on around you. I know I've been guilty of those not-so-well-thought-through blues scale solos lol.
you've got a sweet tone dude...
yet God is still powerful enough to overcome your negative thoughts and lead you hear to listen to what his children have to say
That part at 5:50 sounds like old school Praise Band which i was listening to this morning.
i agree with this only when worship songs and some conditions,but when we play on praise songs, we can solo like Van Halen for sure
It's also important for musicians to remember that the point of worship music is to give glory to God through music, not to bring attention to ourselves through overplaying.