yes as a drummer I had to control my volume during worship I used to play loud and I learned to play less loudly with the help of the worship leader she would single me to play softer because she was almost right next to me playing and singing now I'm in the middle back of the stage and with acoustic and electronic drums you still have to control your volume still.
Soundcheck is very important. We use in-ears (not wireless), which we can control from our cellphones. Each band member runs their own sound check, and then the sound engineer can concentrate on the front of house sound.
@@peterconnolly2724 Does that still work for you? Reading some of the reviews, I see people saying that the monitor feature doesn't work. We're looking to possibly upgrade our soundboard, and I'm trying to see which would work best for us. Thanks!
@@peterconnolly2724 We currently have a Soundcraft Si Impact. I'm not sure if it has the same monitor abilities through an app, though still a very nice soundboard, so maybe not worth changing it out.
This problem is a result of simple immaturity in individuals who don’t see the value of integrity and who don’t respect God and leadership enough. My bible says whatever you set your hand to do, do it as unto the Lord and with all your might (paraphrased)!! The worship ministry is not Gods version of “American Idol” or a platform to publicly entertain the “Crowd”. Our Audience is Jesus…. Not people. It’s so frustrating trying to give God your best and watch other members of the “team” give God their leftovers! The Reverence for God is missing in many worship groups! Pray earnestly for their hearts to be woken up!
Thanks for this excellent, commonsense video! Our worship band is slowly incorporating these great ideas. We've tried ear monitors but had many issues with them and so, gone back to floor wedges. Of course, that presents a whole new set of challenges - constantly bringing down the volume on the platform from wedges and amps in our small sanctuary.
Thank you so much to Paul Baloche and the band for making a video like this. This kind of stuff is like a treasure chest of knowledge for us amateurs in the local church. This is super formative and we are grateful for your heart to do this!!
Thank you Paul for sharing these videos! The wisdom you give for these issues are so helpful for any worship band/ group. I take this ministry very seriously and appreciate the professionalism you show in your own example!
Thanks for putting this together! We have a leader at our Church that thinks doing this kind of thing is more about performance than what it should be about... worshiping Him. I disagree. I think that God gives each of us gifts, and we should want to present those gifts to the best of our abilities. While we should all still focus on worshiping Him, we also have to recognize that we are leading the congregation in worship with Him as well. If we are off and not playing together cohesively, that could be distracting to the congregation and impact their ability to focus on worship. This is great stuff!
Great video. Very practical and helpful. Appreciate the humility and respect shown by everyone. Keep it up! For God's glory. Also, cool seeing Ben play a Duesenberg through an Orange amp. Interesting combo right there.
With the affordability of digital mixing consoles these days its creating the opportunity for small churches to be able to afford purchasing these consoles and getting a great sound and not need a large tech crew (eg) monitor person most new digital consoles these days allow you to mix your own monitor mix therefore no need for monitor person and the crazy time it takes to sound check in the morning.. also on the back of that everyone who is in the worship team should have there complete profile saved in the library and should be able to be recalled whenever they are on also making the sound check soooo much faster. I think these days everyone still over complicates a bit instead of working with the technology available..
AMEN! We must START with good sound, otherwise BAD sound only gets MORE BAD through the chain... Praise the Lord for a "Monitor Guy!" For my team -- Sure these guys are "pros," but we can implement so much of what they're showing for us. Watch hand signals -- Ours are a little different, but the point is to say MORE, or LESS, or GOOD, etc... GREAT communication. "Nothing personal, you can turn me down in your monitor." "Stay focused" -- our set starts in 10 min, we don't have time to chit-chat. Everyone keys-in on the same cue to keep in time: Could be the high hat, could be the rhythm guitar's strumming -- Talk-out who is gonna lead, then everyone follow the same cue. Floor Wedges: Consider "subtractive" mixing -- Instead of "turn it up" all the time, consider what can be turned DOWN in your wedge mix, so the important sounds are louder. (for example, I don't need ALL the backup singers' vox prominent in my personal mix!)
I've learned so much from you paul as a drummer in a praise and worship group and from your previous video about how to enhance a worship I'm from northeastern part of India
Most of the time as a member of the congrgation I can't hear the electric guitars or the violin. Can always hear drums, keys, bass, and trumpets. I think most churches don't even bother with sound checks and it shows.
Mitch Jordan Wow...I’ve seen a lot of the opposite, where keys and bass are nearly inaudible, and electric and acoustic guitars are pretty loud. No winning with trumpets though, got to agree with you there. Acoustic drums need a drummer who can play to the room too.
I guess every song have different setting, some feature more on guitar some more of bass. I myself is a drummer/guitarist and sound guy. Sometime it's musicians that give sound guy a hard to adjust because they are constantly changing their volume especially guitarist. For me i myself instead of being mad, i try to do what i can do adjust the volume, we must remember not every service is perfect.
Yeah. Being the audio guy of my church I can vouch for that. People, the lead singers and instrument players come around the beginnings of the church. And we have tabla, a traditional instrument of India. Getting it to sound good. Especially that base sound takes time. It's really hard to make sure all the eq's are good and all the individual volume levels are on point. It usually takes me 1 stanza to get the song to be good. People generally forget about the sound guys and probably think it's really easy to do the job.
Just need one comprehensive sound check like this if your worship team has consistent band members/ instrumentation and exclusive access to soundboard and amps/direct input boxes. It can be streamlined beyond this initial sound check.
The title of worship leader carries big responsibilities. It's not only to be called worship leader but it's important to know how to be a good worship leader.
@15:20 It would help but it's not really that problem on where your mic is pointing at or how near it is to the next instrument especially if space is an issue as long as your sound tech knows how to use GATE. (talking about the band's talk back mics)
A gate is fine if it’s an MD/Talk back mic next to the kit but we can’t put a gate on a vocal mic. We’d rather change vocal placements away from the kit to avoid bleeding.
Thank you so much Paul Boloche for sharing this Worship Band Workshop! This is so helpful for me as a worship leader. All of you have contributed a lot! But I'm not sure of the metronome or what u call loops (don't know what's the correct spelling) ;) You can explain more how to get the correct loops/metronome.
Loops? There are all kinds of loops. In this great land we have something that we eat in the morning called, "Fruit Loops." But, not to worry, that is not what is meant by "loops." Loops refers to a technology that picks up what we are playing and repeats it over and over again. It is usually only a short section of something played on a guitar or other instrument.
We are the worship leaders for the Flowing Oil in Dalton Ga (the Bible that is literally flowing oil out of it). We have a Tuesday morning prayer / worship meeting every week at 10:00 AM. There are around 600-1000 people that show up from all over the world. We set up an entire sound system for an 8 person worship band and do a sound check all in 45 min. Thank God for a Behringer X32 rack mixer and MX-Q apps for everyone to adjust their own mixes. And we always have comments about how awesome the sound is. Glory Hallelujah! 🙏🏻
While we are figuring it out how we could sound good together, some are having problems on how can they afford buying a $100 keyboard or guitar so that they can play at Church..
Hey Paul great stuff out there. I need you to touch on this that in-ears are good for concerts but not for worship services (I think so) where in the crowds are looking at the band members and get into worship only when they see everybody on the stage worshiping while playing rather than only playing. Getting to the point Jared is talking about in 16:08 is that, it is better for the musicians to have bothe in-ears plugged in to the ears...that really helps the musicians to be focused and concentrated but that also isolates you in the sense that it takes away the great opportunity to listen to the ambience on the stage and be aware with whatever is happening musically together on the stage and participate in worship rather than being solely focused in listening to click/loops, own instruments and that of the others. What do you have to say on that??? (I can be completely wrong though about this)
Setting up a good in-ear mix allows musicians to feel the worship team AND the audience (ambience mics included!) so they can worship. Sound men's job is that the gear and the mix shall be as transparent (unnoticable, invisible, non-distractive) as possible.
George, George, don't say that, them are fighting words. Turn down? Who would think, even think of such a thing? If you must , say it in more subtle, kinder soft tones such as, please lower your volume level a tiny tad bit. Turn down, is so harsh to our trained ears, it hurts our sensitive egos.
@@scottspeig I hope you know I noticed that in church services sometimes religious people get all nervous when the volume is turned up. The Bible says to make a joyful noise, so crank up the volume. However, some people get too carried away with that in certain ministries.
Monitor guy directs the monitor sound check, this insures that you get what you need according to his ability and methods. second, the only time you should raise your hand is if you need something, they can see your raised hand. Usually can't see what your doing with your fingers.. I could go on but you get the idea All that said, super jealous of the fact that you still use wedges and no tracts
"Sounds amazing, Sounds really good" - Paul Baloche..
Salute to the monitor guy and to sound Engineer, God bless you more!!
the key to life is having a drummer that can control his/her volume.
then soundguy should push other instrument volume up hahaha, however sometime is the drummer got into the song so much that they forget their volume.
Yep, even as a drummer, I agree with this statement. :-) Peace all, Carl. (Drummer in this video. With Paul Baloche for over 20 years).
@@carlalbrecht nice true
An electronic kit has a volume control. Gotta love that!
yes as a drummer I had to control my volume during worship I used to play loud and I learned to play less loudly with the help of the worship leader she would single me to play softer because she was almost right next to me playing and singing now I'm in the middle back of the stage and with acoustic and electronic drums you still have to control your volume still.
Soundcheck is very important. We use in-ears (not wireless), which we can control from our cellphones. Each band member runs their own sound check, and then the sound engineer can concentrate on the front of house sound.
Peter Connolly what is the digital mixer brand/model can use with cellphones? Thanks.
@@johnnygarcia8654 We use a Behringer X32. Mixing Station Pro software on each phone (about $5) to handle the mix.
Peter Connolly thank you. I have the Mackie DL32R.
@@peterconnolly2724 Does that still work for you? Reading some of the reviews, I see people saying that the monitor feature doesn't work. We're looking to possibly upgrade our soundboard, and I'm trying to see which would work best for us. Thanks!
@@peterconnolly2724 We currently have a Soundcraft Si Impact. I'm not sure if it has the same monitor abilities through an app, though still a very nice soundboard, so maybe not worth changing it out.
Nice work, I wish you the best
The one thing missing in church is excellence; just because you’re volunteering, doesn’t mean you should phone it in
I have this exact problem with my team
This problem is a result of simple immaturity in individuals who don’t see the value of integrity and who don’t respect God and leadership enough. My bible says whatever you set your hand to do, do it as unto the Lord and with all your might (paraphrased)!! The worship ministry is not Gods version of “American Idol” or a platform to publicly entertain the “Crowd”. Our Audience is Jesus…. Not people. It’s so frustrating trying to give God your best and watch other members of the “team” give God their leftovers! The Reverence for God is missing in many worship groups! Pray earnestly for their hearts to be woken up!
Hallelujah! Thanks so much that I have learned more about the soundmixing. It is for God´s glory. Amen.
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. It helps the Kingdom more than you know.
I love the way you teach it!
Love Hearing you and worshipping with you since the 📼💽 n still 📱 doing.
Love from 🇮🇳
Thanks for sharing your music workshop time video. This thing is world to me. feels like heaven.
Thanks for this excellent, commonsense video! Our worship band is slowly incorporating these great ideas. We've tried ear monitors but had many issues with them and so, gone back to floor wedges. Of course, that presents a whole new set of challenges - constantly bringing down the volume on the platform from wedges and amps in our small sanctuary.
What issues did you have using IEMs? Our church might be switching to them
The drummer's a sage👌
If I just could play the acoustic like that
Good video, blessings to all
Thank you so much to Paul Baloche and the band for making a video like this. This kind of stuff is like a treasure chest of knowledge for us amateurs in the local church. This is super formative and we are grateful for your heart to do this!!
Wow we are learning here...
Click is my best friend especially while I’m playing Bass :)
Thank you Paul for sharing these videos! The wisdom you give for these issues are so helpful for any worship band/ group. I take this ministry very seriously and appreciate the professionalism you show in your own example!
excellent video , Ive never seen this done before , thank you.
All we needed I think is an experience worship leader like you to clear those things out!Nice job!
Check, check, one, two. Profound.
Great vídeo, thanks.
It is crazy that Jesse is the mixing guy! I'm Jesse too and I'm also a sound guy. Just had to point that out lol
Thank you it's very big help to our church 😁
Thanks for putting this together! We have a leader at our Church that thinks doing this kind of thing is more about performance than what it should be about... worshiping Him. I disagree. I think that God gives each of us gifts, and we should want to present those gifts to the best of our abilities. While we should all still focus on worshiping Him, we also have to recognize that we are leading the congregation in worship with Him as well. If we are off and not playing together cohesively, that could be distracting to the congregation and impact their ability to focus on worship. This is great stuff!
Thanks Paul. God bless you.
Thank You Guys for Sharing!🙋♂️
I'm very impressed
Very helpful for a youth worship leader trying to corral the band.
Thank you guys it's really big help for us in Worship team. God bless eveyone 🙏❤
I love to hear a good kick with lots of low end in my ears as I play it 😬 and a good popping snare and everything else punchy 😀🙌🏽🤜🏽🤛🏽
Great video. Very practical and helpful. Appreciate the humility and respect shown by everyone. Keep it up! For God's glory. Also, cool seeing Ben play a Duesenberg through an Orange amp. Interesting combo right there.
It's really helpful for me
Such valuable information. I'm gonna send these videos to my worship team. THank you Paul :)
Great Video . Love it
With the affordability of digital mixing consoles these days its creating the opportunity for small churches to be able to afford purchasing these consoles and getting a great sound and not need a large tech crew (eg) monitor person most new digital consoles these days allow you to mix your own monitor mix therefore no need for monitor person and the crazy time it takes to sound check in the morning.. also on the back of that everyone who is in the worship team should have there complete profile saved in the library and should be able to be recalled whenever they are on also making the sound check soooo much faster. I think these days everyone still over complicates a bit instead of working with the technology available..
AMEN! We must START with good sound, otherwise BAD sound only gets MORE BAD through the chain... Praise the Lord for a "Monitor Guy!"
For my team -- Sure these guys are "pros," but we can implement so much of what they're showing for us. Watch hand signals -- Ours are a little different, but the point is to say MORE, or LESS, or GOOD, etc... GREAT communication. "Nothing personal, you can turn me down in your monitor." "Stay focused" -- our set starts in 10 min, we don't have time to chit-chat.
Everyone keys-in on the same cue to keep in time: Could be the high hat, could be the rhythm guitar's strumming -- Talk-out who is gonna lead, then everyone follow the same cue.
Floor Wedges: Consider "subtractive" mixing -- Instead of "turn it up" all the time, consider what can be turned DOWN in your wedge mix, so the important sounds are louder. (for example, I don't need ALL the backup singers' vox prominent in my personal mix!)
I've learned so much from you paul as a drummer in a praise and worship group and from your previous video about how to enhance a worship I'm from northeastern part of India
India? Be blest.
You rock!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills.
Most of the time as a member of the congrgation I can't hear the electric guitars or the violin. Can always hear drums, keys, bass, and trumpets. I think most churches don't even bother with sound checks and it shows.
Mitch Jordan Wow...I’ve seen a lot of the opposite, where keys and bass are nearly inaudible, and electric and acoustic guitars are pretty loud. No winning with trumpets though, got to agree with you there. Acoustic drums need a drummer who can play to the room too.
I guess every song have different setting, some feature more on guitar some more of bass. I myself is a drummer/guitarist and sound guy. Sometime it's musicians that give sound guy a hard to adjust because they are constantly changing their volume especially guitarist. For me i myself instead of being mad, i try to do what i can do adjust the volume, we must remember not every service is perfect.
Yeah. Being the audio guy of my church I can vouch for that.
People, the lead singers and instrument players come around the beginnings of the church.
And we have tabla, a traditional instrument of India. Getting it to sound good. Especially that base sound takes time.
It's really hard to make sure all the eq's are good and all the individual volume levels are on point.
It usually takes me 1 stanza to get the song to be good.
People generally forget about the sound guys and probably think it's really easy to do the job.
It's awesome to have a app to control my mix these days
Just need one comprehensive sound check like this if your worship team has consistent band members/ instrumentation and exclusive access to soundboard and amps/direct input boxes. It can be streamlined beyond this initial sound check.
Sounds great guys!
19:48 for a soundcheck.. that must be a speed record
😂😂😂
Going for a speedrun😂
Thanks for sharing
The title of worship leader carries big responsibilities. It's not only to be called worship leader but it's important to know how to be a good worship leader.
@15:20 It would help but it's not really that problem on where your mic is pointing at or how near it is to the next instrument especially if space is an issue as long as your sound tech knows how to use GATE. (talking about the band's talk back mics)
A gate is fine if it’s an MD/Talk back mic next to the kit but we can’t put a gate on a vocal mic. We’d rather change vocal placements away from the kit to avoid bleeding.
Thank you very much. This is só helpful!!!
Wow it's great 😃🫡🫡🫡
Thank you so much Paul Boloche for sharing this Worship Band Workshop! This is so helpful for me as a worship leader. All of you have contributed a lot!
But I'm not sure of the metronome or what u call loops (don't know what's the correct spelling) ;)
You can explain more how to get the correct loops/metronome.
Loops? There are all kinds of loops. In this great land we have something that we eat in the morning called, "Fruit Loops." But, not to worry, that is not what is meant by "loops." Loops refers to a technology that picks up what we are playing and repeats it over and over again. It is usually only a short section of something played on a guitar or other instrument.
We are the worship leaders for the Flowing Oil in Dalton Ga (the Bible that is literally flowing oil out of it). We have a Tuesday morning prayer / worship meeting every week at 10:00 AM. There are around 600-1000 people that show up from all over the world. We set up an entire sound system for an 8 person worship band and do a sound check all in 45 min. Thank God for a Behringer X32 rack mixer and MX-Q apps for everyone to adjust their own mixes. And we always have comments about how awesome the sound is. Glory Hallelujah! 🙏🏻
Super helpful!!
And btw..where can we get that "hosanna" loop?
truly true
While we are figuring it out how we could sound good together, some are having problems on how can they afford buying a $100 keyboard or guitar so that they can play at Church..
What exactly are you saying?
Great video!!
Wait a minute, are you him? I mean, are you the one who writes all of those songs and plays guitar and sings and tours and eats burritos?
Este vídeo se debería llamar: como hacer un soundcheck cuando tienes mucha lana XD felicidades, suena muy bien
That acoustic guitar was shred jealous😂
Hey Paul great stuff out there.
I need you to touch on this that in-ears are good for concerts but not for worship services (I think so) where in the crowds are looking at the band members and get into worship only when they see everybody on the stage worshiping while playing rather than only playing.
Getting to the point Jared is talking about in 16:08 is that, it is better for the musicians to have bothe in-ears plugged in to the ears...that really helps the musicians to be focused and concentrated but that also isolates you in the sense that it takes away the great opportunity to listen to the ambience on the stage and be aware with whatever is happening musically together on the stage and participate in worship rather than being solely focused in listening to click/loops, own instruments and that of the others.
What do you have to say on that???
(I can be completely wrong though about this)
Niraj Tanti 17:15 good point
Setting up a good in-ear mix allows musicians to feel the worship team AND the audience (ambience mics included!) so they can worship. Sound men's job is that the gear and the mix shall be as transparent (unnoticable, invisible, non-distractive) as possible.
@@MHlovesz Your right! And that's exactly how important room/ambient mics are.
Acoustic blaring over everything else... "anyone want more acoustic?"
clutchj hahaha
@John Kennedy Yeah I know. I just thought it was funny
No more acoustic, but a bit more electric.
@John Kennedy You need to break that down so we can understand what you mean?
Way too much sometimes... 🙄
pls say it with me... JUST THE DRUMS FIRST! (: kick..snare... r tom... floor tom 1 floor tom 2 and THEN cymbals!
What notes were they playing??
Open wedges are problematic with the band as the guitarist mentioned.
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Do you guys ever use a click?
Jonathan Stockton we do ^^
Always.
As a band leader/Worship leader, sound man. I always tell people especially band members.... If you can't hear someone else/each other... Turn down.
George, George, don't say that, them are fighting words. Turn down? Who would think, even think of such a thing? If you must , say it in more subtle, kinder soft tones such as, please lower your volume level a tiny tad bit. Turn down, is so harsh to our trained ears, it hurts our sensitive egos.
@@louisaccardi6808 It's when, as a drummer, I say - No backing vocals please! Take them completely out! Haha!!
@@scottspeig I hope you know I noticed that in church services sometimes religious people get all nervous when the volume is turned up. The Bible says to make a joyful noise, so crank up the volume. However, some people get too carried away with that in certain ministries.
Bass is meant to be felt not heard! Lol but seriously I don't think I could play bass if it was just on headphones.
✋🏾I'd take a little more cowbell please.👆🏾👆🏾🤏🏾👌🏾
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People still do this? We’ve been using personal monitors for 15+ years.
Esp with analog boards and floor wedges many still dont have individual IEMs
Monitor guy directs the monitor sound check, this insures that you get what you need according to his ability and methods.
second, the only time you should raise your hand is if you need something, they can see your raised hand. Usually can't see what your doing with your fingers.. I could go on but you get the idea
All that said, super jealous of the fact that you still use wedges and no tracts
brothers/sisters where do I find the Vocal workshop (with Kari Jobe) I am willing to buy. is it available somewhere?
10:16 - incoming dad Joke.....
Man I feel like Paul could be andrew garfield's dad lol
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HAHA openvocal.com