Pre end times: Being burned by the flames means you suck and should go home. Post end times: Being burned by the flames means you weren't standing in them long enough. GJ games workshop.
Indeed they did. A giant mess it was. I could sort of take the whole deceit with the sacred flames, but having Malekith suddenly come back and becoming the chosen of Asuryan was utter nonsense. I thought that they might have chosen Teclis or some other 'qualified' character.
@@JacatackLP Salamanders would buy you a puppy, burn it and present an envelope with its ashes, which you, if you were one of them, would've seen as an actual puppy and thank them vigorously for such cute gift. They reaaaaaaaaaaly~ lile fire.
What I think should also be mentioned about the elves is their EXTREME emotionality. They are able to experience all emotions far more intense then humans, thus bouth pleasure, sorrow, haterd and love are experienced much stronger by them, thus its very easy for an elf to "get lost" in a certain emotion and becoming close to unable to get out of it...thus an elf can completly get drowned in his/her sorrow or get addicted to sensationalistic pleasure seeking driving himself to greater and greater sensation. This is the explanation for the dark elves sadism btw, it is dificult to understand for a human but an elf can easily experience massive pleasure from inflicting pain and the feeling of power it gives him (combined with drugs), it is basicly addictive and the elf soon loses all other desires exept experiencing more of it....This is why high elf culture is so strongly centered on self controll and every elf has always be on guard for falling into the pits of his own emotions.....
@@timothybyrne9764 Brotherhood, awe, honor, mastery, take your pick each of the High Elven elite units displays a path that allows them to be controlled in the midst of battle. Even Dragon Princes while haughty and prideful are so because of their unremitting valor and guardianship in war.
Anaerion; Careless king who picks up the sword of khaine the literal god of murder, neglects his family to be murdered by chaos fanatics, drives the elves to the brink of ruin. elf gods: "yep, cool guy" Malekith: literally just the heir to the throne - hasn't done anything bad yet elf gods: "hell naw"
Anyone missing this old Arch style of videos? I mean I still watch him and kind of like him but it is a far cry from his old, even though not as well made (productionwise) stuff. Am I alone here?
I only like his original stuff like this lol. It's good white noise while I do stuff. I find arch does too much tongue rolling certain letters and slow drawing out of words now it's so irritating I have to listen in higher speed.
Your mention of the Phoenix King choosing the Everqueen is mistaken, FYI. The title of Everqueen passes from Mother to Daughter in an unbroken line from the first Everqueen (First recorded is Astarielle, wife of Aenarion). The firstborn daughter of the Everqueen and Phoenix King's marriage is recognized as the Everchild and heir to the mantle of Everqueen.
+Hiyama420 Thats ridiculous. Lets say the son of the Phoenix king becomes the new Phoenix King. Is he going to now fuck his own sister? Thats disgusting.
Hey man, not defending the ethics behind the decision. All I'm saying is that's what the fluff says: "The position of Everqueen is always taken up by the firstborn daughter of the previous queen, conceived during her year-long ritual marriage to the Phoenix King." - Warhammer Armies: High Elves (8th Edition), pg. 15.
Hiyama420 You do realize that GW has a habit of retconning a lot of stuff. Plus I really wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to retconn this. Imagine having to mate with your sister .... Sheesh!!!
Gaurab Chatterjee I do, but considering that the source is the last Army Book before WHFB got nuked, it seems pretty definitive. The Malekith omnibus does seem to suggest that the High Elves try to avoid incestuous Phoenix King/Everqueen pairings, as they were pretty hesitant to have Malekith be crowned when Yvraine, his half-sister was Everqueen.
+Felix Chaplin Nope .. The Noldor got corrupted by Melkor, then they were banished to Middle Earth. After that they did some things for a few years, meet the Edain bla bla bla etc etc. After a some centuries had passed the endless wars with Melkor got kind of annoying, because of that they started to siege the extremely weakend Melkor (not very successful) until the other Vala came and beat him up. Now Melkor is locked away hanging from the gate to the world until the end of Ea.
Bear in mind Tolkein’s Elves are indirectly responsible for a great deal of suffering, from the Sinking of Beleriand and basically all the warring before then to the War of the Ring itself, given that if they’d had the slightest bit of savviness about them they’d never have forged any of the Rings in the first place. All of their giving up their homeland and such is basically just them fixing stuff they screwed up millennia prior.
@@robertnelson9599 Well, my comment was made more in jest, but if I had to rank the factions by Trustworthiness; Lizardmen at the top because they specifically do exactly 1 thing in protecting Lustria, then the Tomb Kings under Settra because his empire does not need to ravage the populations it conquers merely request recruits, then the Dwarfs, then the Empire, Bretonnia, then the Vampires, then the High Elves, then Wood Elves, then everyone else. Also, it seems some people seem to be conflating trust and alliances. You can trust your enemy to do something, while still being their enemy.
First: all my prejudges against have to be proven as simply truths. Second: the lack of the word "pirate" disturbs me, perhaps you can make up in the Dark Elf video. Third: that the whole "malakith gets burned as a joke" really is fitting if you think about it: why should a race of arrogant jerks, who think as everyone else as a toy to play with, have anything else as arrogant jerks who look at anyone as if they were playthings, as Gods?
Si Wi Still better than some shorties who keep a grudge book and write your name in it for paying 2 coins less by mistake and don't help you when you are dying.
emirhan ekşioğlu disagree. The dwarfs are tough bastards, but keep they own standards. They pretty much always helped the Empire in times of need The only upside the High Elves have compared to the Dwarfs is that they women are prettier. Downside is, just you can't keep the man apart from the women...
emirhan ekşioğlu Well there not the worst elves nor race in Warhammer for sure. What's "unsportsmanlike" on a grudebook? Is not much different that a debt record book. You do something, they will take notes to remember to collect the debt.
I'm pretty sure it's heavily hinted at that the war with the demons lasted for several decades, and possibly even as long as a century, since Malekith was born during the war, and he was a young adult when Aenarion died and Bel-Shanaar was elected. So probably around 60 years old at the very least. Plus, Anlec was build by Aenarion, and it was one of the most powerful citadels in the known world, an architectural masterpiece that could have taken - again - decades, if not centuries. Princes were not as much previous tribal chiefs as they were the warriors in the retinue of Aenarion's generals, a military corps that became the elven aristocracy later on, explaining why nobles treasure the weapons forged for their ancestors by the priests of Vaul, as they are signs of their warrior lineage.
@33:17.... Just would like you to know when I start playing Warhammer and reference the "enAryan beating off the Demon Horde" if I misinterpreted any part of that sentence, well you're to blame.
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goddamn, several years ago I got huge into a high elf army then kinda quit Warhammer because my family was more into 40K. Glad to hear more about this glorious army again.
On the point of high elves having a god of rape and all sorts of other awful things; I agree, on superficial glance it sounds like an awful idea to have a church for something like rape. However, there is a certain element of brutal honesty in this. All people, elves included, have some darker aspect within themselves, pretending that's not true doesn't help anyone in any way. So what's the solution of the elves? Face the inner darkness, do not shy from it, do not let it over come you and never forget. Atleast, that's how it seems to me.
Just a minor correction, the Everqueen is a hereditary position. She is always the legitimate daughter of the Everqueen and a Phoenix King stretching back to Aenarion
As an Orcs & Goblins player whose only opponent in seventh ed was a High Elf player, I absolutely detest the High Elves, but probably I detest the rules more than I do the lore.
They have the incarnations of the triple goddess as the mother, maiden, crone AND they have a Hecate stand in, kind of overkill. They also have their stand ins for greek mythology, including Artemis, Athena and Aries. Lastly, they also have a few references to Arthurian mythology. I know the authors were history enthusiasts, but they could have stood to not be so overt with their inspiration source when making the elven pantheon. It also seems like the first Phoenix King was King Arthur and Malekith is Mordred (with a dash of the Witch King of Angmar).
This lore was written back when GW didn’t take itself very seriously. Hell, this was back when Bretonia was pre French Revolution francs on steroids. It’s older than rogue trader I’m pretty sure.
Wow... Elves are really, and mostly, incompetent rulers and probably not the sharpest tools in the shed. At least their armor looks amazing and they sound like they can fight (going toe-to-toe with Dwarves), I'll give them that!
got too say i agree with what u say about the end times, but for me it was a reasonable run up in hindsight to the age of sigmar. every race has no where to live any more and so they just run through portals killing shit in a sulky fit, ahhh new gw fluff gotta love it p.s. aenarion's 2 kids didn't die, they were saved by the treeman durthu and taken through the world roots to the old world
Friday night: Deamons. Saturday night: Forging doom swords and deamons. Sunday night: Starting a civil war, drawing a fancy magick circle, and Deamons.
I see them as a mix of the worst parts of Britain and America The egoistical parts and ‘nobel Superiority’ of Britain With the ‘world police’ mentality of some American politicians
As for elf human relations one shouldnt forget that the elven-dwarven alliance at the times of Malekith being ambasedor to the dwarves made the decision to not exterminate the primitive humans and let them evolve on their own.....
7:00 One of the funniest thing I've heard this week. 22:32 Makes me think of the Bree militia, most OP unit in Third Age total war, with their crossbows and hallberds.
Hey! Love your videos! I was wondering you could cover the end-times story. I hear a lot of hatred about it, but I'd really like to know about what's coming
The elves seem most likely to be added in the upcoming expansion (2 confirmed, for a total of 3 games, much like dawn of war 2). I think a total of 6-7 races seems likely, as that's what DoW II did. Elves will likely have wood elves, high elves and dark elves as subfactions.
I want to thank you. I sometimes have insomnia and your videos help me fall asleep on those nights =) All kidding aside. I enjoy the insightful information and your deliberate method of delivery. You do a better job of telling the story of the races of Warhammer than GW does. PS - I also cannot stand End Times. May it burn in a heap.
well on the whole "you'd be just as equally hard pressed to find a high elf willing to admit this fact" thing you'd be even more hard pressed just to find the fucking high elf let alone get him to admit something positive about a dwarf
I can imagine the elvish magi casting a hex to seal an argument between politicians... and also giving a dirty look to any human interested in learning wizardry, or potentially alchemy in most cases.
+Pierce Greenough Actually the high elves taught the humans of the empire magic and helped them make the colleges of magic. They thought that the empire was a useful outer wall against the flood of chaos and other nasty things.
Jimmy De'Souza well half of there race at the time well what I mean is you know after they converted and killed a large part of the elf people it was about half
To correct you, Phoenix Guard serve as a guard of the King, not Lions, also they act as King’s emissaries on battlefield in Kings absence and in general they are badass af
The only End times I actually enjoyed reading was Khaine... that is up to their justification of Malekith becoming Phoenix King. Literally all they had to do was say something like: "before you were not worthy, but now you've quelled fucking Khaine himself and united the Elves, so you're cool."
So I got to wonder where you got all this info. Apparently my High Elf, Dark Elf, Dwarf, Chaos and so on rule-books are out-of-date - this is a massive list of retcons you list off here one after another.
They were originally good friends, then a civil war between the elves and a poor decision made them bitter enemies. It’s actually sad because they were such good friends the dwarves actually were originally willing to hear them out and let them explain, something they rarely ever do when it comes to grudges.
Interesting to see a lot of people comparing high elves to the USA when almost all of their arguments could double for the UK, and on top of that being a relatively old people forming a powerful *island* nation which simply doesnt describe Americans. I dont care either way and think real world blanket comparisons for fantasy worlds are pointless (especially when most factions are amalgamations of different real world countries/cultures/eras mixed with other things that simply have no real world counterpart). Just saying arrogance, crazy politics and desire to be a world police also describe the UK.
In both cases it is pretty innacurate : the orcs rioting fore more gibs are missing. UK during 1800s is a pretty good analogue though due to all the snobbery and purposefully fucking around with other nations.
You are referring to a franchise developed in the UK... why are Americans obsessed with themselves? They always go on and on about their politics. As a Canadian, I’m sick of hearing about your guy’s grievances.
I noticed you pronounced the Ulthuan provinces differently. I personally pronounce Cothique with a long "o" and like unique. For Yvresse, I say eve-reese (like peace) out of personal preference😃 Also I noticed that a lot of people, not just you, call Lothern "Lothren". Not being critical, I just think it's interesting. There is no definitive right way to pronounce any of the provinces except for maybe Eataine.
well its good that mareinburg was kind of independent otherwise a few elven citys would be destroyed by blasing canons and metal plated guns of the empire from a far
I'm intrigued by the derivation of your name, Arch. Perhaps the rarely used adjective, as the curved masonry construction seems a bit prosaic. arch /ɑːtʃ/ adjective 1. (prenominal) chief; principal; leading: his arch rival 2. (prenominal) very experienced; expert: an arch criminal 3. knowing or superior 4. playfully or affectedly roguish or mischievous I'm guessing mostly 2 (in matter of Warhammer, at least) with a smattering of 3 and 4. Anyway, good work on the Warhammer lore videos.
arch hate to do this but the phoenix king and the everqueen is the oldest daughter and then becomes the next everqueen when the previous everqueen dies so it is hereditary and that is what the year long marriage is for miner point
+Anton Magdalin I would honestly say if the US and UK were indeed in fantasy setting they would most likely be the same two sub-races of the same group... Kinda like both High-elves but at the same time slightly different High-elves. But yes indeed as far as historic attitude they are identical. They are also both a collection of cultures. In the UK you have the English,Irish,Scottish, and Welsh cultures while In the US you have the Yankee,Southron, Midwestern, and Western cultures each with their own histories, customs, and dispositions.
+Anton Kagounkin Magdalina There was an old Warhammer supplement called Albion that was basically Warhammers version of Britain. Lots and lots of Giants, it is said that it rains every day on Albion and there's stone circles and druids absolutely everywhere.
Another great one Arch - However, you have made so many jabs the End Times that I think I would enjoy a video of you ranting and dismantling the End Times. At least your Skaven made a good showing of themselves in that whole fiasco. At least thats the impression I have, I haven't read it, just read a synopsis. I can't bring myself to actually read it all burned down - feels like a crime of literary arson.
"And the Kothari are the gods of, you know, horrible war, torture, rape; that kind of stuff. Because of course the elves of a god of rape because you know, why the hell not?" I literally lost it!
Arch Warhammer As someone who dropped a ton of money on an undead army to get back into it I sort of have to. Have you read the post on warhammer.org.uk where this guy had 2 hours with the fluf book and writes about what the nerw world is like?
Arch Warhammer in the words of Yahtzee "age of sigmarines would have to escape from a sodding ubliet and commence a blowjob marathon that makes my feet recede into my legs to impress me"
Wait wtf? 11:50 High elves warhosts are mostly citizen levies because they train all citizens in warfare just in case dark elves attack (which they often do to grab slaves). So for some empire pirates to successfully attack a high elf village is bullshit since everyone there would be able to fight with a few at least holding 100 years of training under their belt if not a few actual battles.
+dqwers for what I've heard it's the latest part of the lore released, everybody (espacially arch) hates it because it fucks everything up (killing everybody) instead of developing and improving
I had finally just started collecting for Warhammer fantasy and started my high elven army. if there's any pieces I should get that is a necessity or a good leverage to most armies. comments would be most appreciated!
"Beating off the demon horde."
That right there is some insane wrist endurance.
Even Slaanesh is impressed!
Slannesh favors you with a boone
@@beau1112I think you mean bone ;3
Pre end times:
Being burned by the flames means you suck and should go home.
Post end times:
Being burned by the flames means you weren't standing in them long enough.
GJ games workshop.
I liked the old lore where Malekith was never meant to be the Phoenix King.
so did most people. Games workshop really fucked up.
Indeed they did. A giant mess it was. I could sort of take the whole deceit with the sacred flames, but having Malekith suddenly come back and becoming the chosen of Asuryan was utter nonsense. I thought that they might have chosen Teclis or some other 'qualified' character.
But they ran it by the Salamanders and they said it was a great idea
@@JacatackLP Salamanders would buy you a puppy, burn it and present an envelope with its ashes, which you, if you were one of them, would've seen as an actual puppy and thank them vigorously for such cute gift.
They reaaaaaaaaaaly~ lile fire.
Everytime I play a High Elf campaign in Total War I have this in the background atleast once. It's soothing
me too, just right at this moment ;-)
What I think should also be mentioned about the elves is their EXTREME emotionality. They are able to experience all emotions far more intense then humans, thus bouth pleasure, sorrow, haterd and love are experienced much stronger by them, thus its very easy for an elf to "get lost" in a certain emotion and becoming close to unable to get out of it...thus an elf can completly get drowned in his/her sorrow or get addicted to sensationalistic pleasure seeking driving himself to greater and greater sensation. This is the explanation for the dark elves sadism btw, it is dificult to understand for a human but an elf can easily experience massive pleasure from inflicting pain and the feeling of power it gives him (combined with drugs), it is basicly addictive and the elf soon loses all other desires exept experiencing more of it....This is why high elf culture is so strongly centered on self controll and every elf has always be on guard for falling into the pits of his own emotions.....
They must have awesome sex
@@drakeclaw8872 this is exactly the reason why slaneesh was born
@@mr.notsonice no that was in 40k but your weren't wrong
I wonder what better emotions are.
@@timothybyrne9764 Brotherhood, awe, honor, mastery, take your pick each of the High Elven elite units displays a path that allows them to be controlled in the midst of battle. Even Dragon Princes while haughty and prideful are so because of their unremitting valor and guardianship in war.
Anaerion; Careless king who picks up the sword of khaine the literal god of murder, neglects his family to be murdered by chaos fanatics, drives the elves to the brink of ruin.
elf gods: "yep, cool guy"
Malekith: literally just the heir to the throne - hasn't done anything bad yet
elf gods: "hell naw"
Anyone missing this old Arch style of videos? I mean I still watch him and kind of like him but it is a far cry from his old, even though not as well made (productionwise) stuff. Am I alone here?
I only like his original stuff like this lol. It's good white noise while I do stuff. I find arch does too much tongue rolling certain letters and slow drawing out of words now it's so irritating I have to listen in higher speed.
Your mention of the Phoenix King choosing the Everqueen is mistaken, FYI. The title of Everqueen passes from Mother to Daughter in an unbroken line from the first Everqueen (First recorded is Astarielle, wife of Aenarion). The firstborn daughter of the Everqueen and Phoenix King's marriage is recognized as the Everchild and heir to the mantle of Everqueen.
+Hiyama420 Thats ridiculous. Lets say the son of the Phoenix king becomes the new Phoenix King. Is he going to now fuck his own sister? Thats disgusting.
Hey man, not defending the ethics behind the decision. All I'm saying is that's what the fluff says:
"The position of Everqueen is always taken up by the firstborn daughter of the previous queen, conceived during her year-long ritual marriage to the Phoenix King."
- Warhammer Armies: High Elves (8th Edition), pg. 15.
Hiyama420 You do realize that GW has a habit of retconning a lot of stuff. Plus I really wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to retconn this. Imagine having to mate with your sister .... Sheesh!!!
Jimmy De'Souza Pink?
Gaurab Chatterjee
I do, but considering that the source is the last Army Book before WHFB got nuked, it seems pretty definitive.
The Malekith omnibus does seem to suggest that the High Elves try to avoid incestuous Phoenix King/Everqueen pairings, as they were pretty hesitant to have Malekith be crowned when Yvraine, his half-sister was Everqueen.
OMFG THANKS ARCH been waiting for High Elves since the beginning of the series!!!
it seems lord of the rings is the only universe that doesnt have complete arsehole elves
They're assholes too ..
+Ekrexor in Lord of the rings, the elves literally give up their homeland and possibly their lives in order to save the other races
+Felix Chaplin
Nope .. The Noldor got corrupted by Melkor, then they were banished to Middle Earth.
After that they did some things for a few years, meet the Edain bla bla bla etc etc.
After a some centuries had passed the endless wars with Melkor got kind of annoying, because of that they started to siege the extremely weakend Melkor (not very successful) until the other Vala came and beat him up.
Now Melkor is locked away hanging from the gate to the world until the end of Ea.
+Ekrexor I meant the destruction of the rings of power, which would end magic in middle earth
Bear in mind Tolkein’s Elves are indirectly responsible for
a great deal of suffering, from the Sinking of Beleriand and basically all the
warring before then to the War of the Ring itself, given that if they’d had the
slightest bit of savviness about them they’d never have forged any of the Rings
in the first place. All of their giving up their homeland and such is basically
just them fixing stuff they screwed up millennia prior.
is it weird that I would trust the Tomb Kings, or Even the Vampires before the High Elves?
How would you rank the different factions of Fantasy in terms of trustworthiness?
@@robertnelson9599 Well, my comment was made more in jest, but if I had to rank the factions by Trustworthiness; Lizardmen at the top because they specifically do exactly 1 thing in protecting Lustria, then the Tomb Kings under Settra because his empire does not need to ravage the populations it conquers merely request recruits, then the Dwarfs, then the Empire, Bretonnia, then the Vampires, then the High Elves, then Wood Elves, then everyone else.
Also, it seems some people seem to be conflating trust and alliances. You can trust your enemy to do something, while still being their enemy.
@@nikolibarastov4487 what about the Orcs
Yes
@@nikolibarastov4487 I’m just surprised you responded. This comment is four years old.
Awwwwyeah. 1 hour and 4 minute video. I love these, because I can play some video games and listen to lore at the same time. Thanks a bunch!
Kevin Harold Meanwhile... I am sitting here crying because I'm shit at multitasking.
Kevin Harold Here here
First: all my prejudges against have to be proven as simply truths.
Second: the lack of the word "pirate" disturbs me, perhaps you can make up in the Dark Elf video.
Third: that the whole "malakith gets burned as a joke" really is fitting if you think about it: why should a race of arrogant jerks, who think as everyone else as a toy to play with, have anything else as arrogant jerks who look at anyone as if they were playthings, as Gods?
Si Wi Still better than some shorties who keep a grudge book and write your name in it for paying 2 coins less by mistake and don't help you when you are dying.
emirhan ekşioğlu
disagree. The dwarfs are tough bastards, but keep they own standards.
They pretty much always helped the Empire in times of need
The only upside the High Elves have compared to the Dwarfs is that they women are prettier. Downside is, just you can't keep the man apart from the women...
I like both as far as I care, but a grudge book man, it is just completely unsportsmanlike to keep something like that.
emirhan ekşioğlu
Well there not the worst elves nor race in Warhammer for sure.
What's "unsportsmanlike" on a grudebook? Is not much different that a debt record book. You do something, they will take notes to remember to collect the debt.
Si Wi Which they won't collect, but will instead be a dick about it.
I'm pretty sure it's heavily hinted at that the war with the demons lasted for several decades, and possibly even as long as a century, since Malekith was born during the war, and he was a young adult when Aenarion died and Bel-Shanaar was elected. So probably around 60 years old at the very least. Plus, Anlec was build by Aenarion, and it was one of the most powerful citadels in the known world, an architectural masterpiece that could have taken - again - decades, if not centuries. Princes were not as much previous tribal chiefs as they were the warriors in the retinue of Aenarion's generals, a military corps that became the elven aristocracy later on, explaining why nobles treasure the weapons forged for their ancestors by the priests of Vaul, as they are signs of their warrior lineage.
@33:17.... Just would like you to know when I start playing Warhammer and reference the "enAryan beating off the Demon Horde" if I misinterpreted any part of that sentence, well you're to blame.
I'm still waiting for those dark elves :D
Rasmus Salén Me too.
Rasmus Salén Yeah I wanna hear more about why it's bad to be their prisoner.
Illusive Man BDSM, BDSM everywhere.
Illusive Man torture lots of it.
Greetings Illusive Man.
Nice, should perhaps have mentioned Tyrion and Teclis since they are pretty important in the current high elf lore. Especially Teclis.
Okay I know this video is old but one of my friends told me that the highs elves were America turned up to 11 and I didn't believe him until now 😂
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The "Nanananana! You can't have it!" bit just cracked me up. That image of Dwarves taunting elves like that is just awesome.
"went off to beat off the daemon hordes"
Phrasing
This is great I can paint miniature figures, ancient Assyrians at the moment, for a whole hour, all the best Garry
goddamn, several years ago I got huge into a high elf army then kinda quit Warhammer because my family was more into 40K. Glad to hear more about this glorious army again.
I'm glad i found your videos, thanks for sharing your knowledge of Warhammer lore.
On the point of high elves having a god of rape and all sorts of other awful things;
I agree, on superficial glance it sounds like an awful idea to have a church for something like rape.
However, there is a certain element of brutal honesty in this. All people, elves included, have some darker aspect within themselves, pretending that's not true doesn't help anyone in any way.
So what's the solution of the elves? Face the inner darkness, do not shy from it, do not let it over come you and never forget.
Atleast, that's how it seems to me.
Have to say I've enjoyed your lore videos. Also your voice is really soothing for some reason.
Arch Warhammer you should show more maps in your videos to give a better understanding of where each of these factions are based.
It's good they will be in the next game.
Just a minor correction, the Everqueen is a hereditary position. She is always the legitimate daughter of the Everqueen and a Phoenix King stretching back to Aenarion
As an Orcs & Goblins player whose only opponent in seventh ed was a High Elf player, I absolutely detest the High Elves, but probably I detest the rules more than I do the lore.
"Quite possibly the most broken ass named character in the history of warhammer "
Nagash Mon?
They have the incarnations of the triple goddess as the mother, maiden, crone AND they have a Hecate stand in, kind of overkill. They also have their stand ins for greek mythology, including Artemis, Athena and Aries. Lastly, they also have a few references to Arthurian mythology. I know the authors were history enthusiasts, but they could have stood to not be so overt with their inspiration source when making the elven pantheon.
It also seems like the first Phoenix King was King Arthur and Malekith is Mordred (with a dash of the Witch King of Angmar).
This lore was written back when GW didn’t take itself very seriously. Hell, this was back when Bretonia was pre French Revolution francs on steroids. It’s older than rogue trader I’m pretty sure.
They all have Babylonian hats
Have you heard of the high elves?
Excellent video to watch while playing Warhammer 2, as High Elves
the Elves look the coolest
Yea, tall, feminine, lying little bitches. DWARVES!!!!!
Really I think the lizardmen looks the coolest but I do like how the elves look too probably 2 best
Lol. Such a generic comment for a generic fanboy of a generic faction.
The elves! Beautiful, haughty, proud and lame ass high elves. "Elves look kewl"
@@shizmanbeat i like the beastmen, pretty dope'. lizardmen is neat also, i wish some changes to the elves but hey, they cool too.
Wow... Elves are really, and mostly, incompetent rulers and probably not the sharpest tools in the shed. At least their armor looks amazing and they sound like they can fight (going toe-to-toe with Dwarves), I'll give them that!
"Like they can fight"
More like they're the most broken ass OP army in the game. They can fight like crazy
***** Do not forget who won that war, Bidmartinlo!
***** I haven't forgotten. I just don't want to be... an Elf about it; rubbing it in for thousands of years! xD
***** pff still lost the war of vengence
by grimnir these are petty tall weaklings not worth the time of day i say
***** Caledor the first died like the Taira admiral at Dan no Ura.
this is my favorite faction! i luv elves!
The Sundering Rise of the Witch King is a mod set exactly when you think it is. For Medieval 2.
Arch do the beastmen please!!! I am so curious about them, by the way you do a great work ;D.
i so love your lore videos i have watch some of this like two or tree times
got too say i agree with what u say about the end times, but for me it was a reasonable run up in hindsight to the age of sigmar. every race has no where to live any more and so they just run through portals killing shit in a sulky fit, ahhh new gw fluff gotta love it
p.s. aenarion's 2 kids didn't die, they were saved by the treeman durthu and taken through the world roots to the old world
Friday night: Deamons. Saturday night: Forging doom swords and deamons. Sunday night: Starting a civil war, drawing a fancy magick circle, and Deamons.
the high elves are the best. they have the most interesting lore, we need more high elf novels
I get the feeling that the high elves are not your favorite race in Warhammer, something in your tone ;)
Lemme see that possible army video!
I see them as a mix of the worst parts of Britain and America
The egoistical parts and ‘nobel Superiority’ of Britain
With the ‘world police’ mentality of some American politicians
Watching all your videos again Been a few years. I see a lot of the videos are gone. Damn youtube.
thx for doing this videos. they are insanly nice
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lol, "beat off the demon horde"
Praying the high elves will be in warhammer total war in one form or another XD
WOO! Finally High Elves! Thanks Arch!
As for elf human relations one shouldnt forget that the elven-dwarven alliance at the times of Malekith being ambasedor to the dwarves made the decision to not exterminate the primitive humans and let them evolve on their own.....
7:00 One of the funniest thing I've heard this week.
22:32 Makes me think of the Bree militia, most OP unit in Third Age total war, with their crossbows and hallberds.
Hey! Love your videos!
I was wondering you could cover the end-times story. I hear a lot of hatred about it, but I'd really like to know about what's coming
The elves seem most likely to be added in the upcoming expansion (2 confirmed, for a total of 3 games, much like dawn of war 2). I think a total of 6-7 races seems likely, as that's what DoW II did. Elves will likely have wood elves, high elves and dark elves as subfactions.
pirate pirate pirate pirate, pirate, pirate OK, I'm done now
+Víctor Valero Pirate.
I want to thank you. I sometimes have insomnia and your videos help me fall asleep on those nights =)
All kidding aside. I enjoy the insightful information and your deliberate method of delivery. You do a better job of telling the story of the races of Warhammer than GW does.
PS - I also cannot stand End Times. May it burn in a heap.
well on the whole "you'd be just as equally hard pressed to find a high elf willing to admit this fact" thing you'd be even more hard pressed just to find the fucking high elf let alone get him to admit something positive about a dwarf
Endtimes: PTSD intensifies
I can imagine the elvish magi casting a hex to seal an argument between politicians... and also giving a dirty look to any human interested in learning wizardry, or potentially alchemy in most cases.
+Pierce Greenough Actually the high elves taught the humans of the empire magic and helped them make the colleges of magic. They thought that the empire was a useful outer wall against the flood of chaos and other nasty things.
+Ignacio de Regoyos Now they need to make a large army of human spellswords.
Yup, addicted to these vids now.
I was amused by the narrator. He is easy to listen to.
I like high elfs a lot, and I hate the other elfs
4:30 that statement you made horrifies me.
allowed into one whole city.... how generous.
Jimmy De'Souza so are the elf's so they can't exactly be self rightchess
Jimmy De'Souza half of there race joined the cult of slanesh and became dark elves proptinatly its the same equivalent
Jimmy De'Souza well half of there race at the time well what I mean is you know after they converted and killed a large part of the elf people it was about half
To correct you, Phoenix Guard serve as a guard of the King, not Lions, also they act as King’s emissaries on battlefield in Kings absence and in general they are badass af
The only End times I actually enjoyed reading was Khaine... that is up to their justification of Malekith becoming Phoenix King. Literally all they had to do was say something like: "before you were not worthy, but now you've quelled fucking Khaine himself and united the Elves, so you're cool."
So I got to wonder where you got all this info. Apparently my High Elf, Dark Elf, Dwarf, Chaos and so on rule-books are out-of-date - this is a massive list of retcons you list off here one after another.
even in warhammer elves and dwarfs hate each other,i wonder why.
+Bernard Rednix The elves attacked the dawrfs because they,more or less,wanted to fight them.And the Dwarfs don't forget a grudge.
+Tuedon shouldn't of debearded a dwarf lol
+The Drama Llama
Indeed.That was a colossal mistake.
+Sidar Erdem
And that's what they did.They killed the elf kind and took his crown.That's one way to deal with it I guess.
They were originally good friends, then a civil war between the elves and a poor decision made them bitter enemies. It’s actually sad because they were such good friends the dwarves actually were originally willing to hear them out and let them explain, something they rarely ever do when it comes to grudges.
Arch you're soo funny dude great job on the vids can't stop laughing
I think Ulthuan is more like Australia then an island, a little continent.
Can we all just agree that the end times are not cannon in the war hammer game you can create your own time line that’s what I do
Interesting to see a lot of people comparing high elves to the USA when almost all of their arguments could double for the UK, and on top of that being a relatively old people forming a powerful *island* nation which simply doesnt describe Americans.
I dont care either way and think real world blanket comparisons for fantasy worlds are pointless (especially when most factions are amalgamations of different real world countries/cultures/eras mixed with other things that simply have no real world counterpart). Just saying arrogance, crazy politics and desire to be a world police also describe the UK.
In both cases it is pretty innacurate :
the orcs rioting fore more gibs are missing.
UK during 1800s is a pretty good analogue though due to all the snobbery and purposefully fucking around with other nations.
You are referring to a franchise developed in the UK... why are Americans obsessed with themselves? They always go on and on about their politics. As a Canadian, I’m sick of hearing about your guy’s grievances.
@@InVinoVeratas Canadian nationalism is literally based around distinction from the US. You have no room to talk lmfao
Grimnir saved the world, not the elves. It is known.
Love these videos!
44:50 Its Huma (or Sturm Brightblade) vs Tera Patrick/ with a Trident/ Riding Donkey's offspring (from Shrek)
It is a good thing that you didn't speak about the End Times, it is literally a peace of the mythiest shit !
Arch, I declare your least coherent ramblings are better if not more melodic than most of Cicero's stylings.
I noticed you pronounced the Ulthuan provinces differently. I personally pronounce Cothique with a long "o" and like unique. For Yvresse, I say eve-reese (like peace) out of personal preference😃 Also I noticed that a lot of people, not just you, call Lothern "Lothren". Not being critical, I just think it's interesting. There is no definitive right way to pronounce any of the provinces except for maybe Eataine.
well its good that mareinburg was kind of independent otherwise a few elven citys would be destroyed by blasing canons and metal plated guns of the empire from a far
I'm intrigued by the derivation of your name, Arch. Perhaps the rarely used adjective, as the curved masonry construction seems a bit prosaic.
arch
/ɑːtʃ/
adjective
1.
(prenominal) chief; principal; leading: his arch rival
2.
(prenominal) very experienced; expert: an arch criminal
3.
knowing or superior
4.
playfully or affectedly roguish or mischievous
I'm guessing mostly 2 (in matter of Warhammer, at least) with a smattering of 3 and 4.
Anyway, good work on the Warhammer lore videos.
it could be possible the khorne and the other chaos gods added to the design of the elven gods
arch hate to do this but the phoenix king and the everqueen is the oldest daughter and then becomes the next everqueen when the previous everqueen dies so it is hereditary and that is what the year long marriage is for miner point
Remarkable resemblance of High Elfs and England. interesting indeed.
+Anton Magdalin I would say that the high elves are more like the US of A whereas the Eldar in 40k are a lot more like Britain
No man, in WWII UK did exactly what High Elfs did here lolz. And USA and UK are same thing, really.
How so? as an Englishman i'm interested in hearing what you have to say
+Anton Magdalin I would honestly say if the US and UK were indeed in
fantasy setting they would most likely be the same two sub-races of the
same group... Kinda like both High-elves but at the same time slightly
different High-elves.
But yes indeed as far as historic attitude they are identical. They are also both a collection of cultures.
In the UK you have the English,Irish,Scottish, and Welsh cultures
while
In the US you have the Yankee,Southron, Midwestern, and Western cultures
each with their own histories, customs, and dispositions.
+Anton Kagounkin Magdalina There was an old Warhammer supplement called Albion that was basically Warhammers version of Britain. Lots and lots of Giants, it is said that it rains every day on Albion and there's stone circles and druids absolutely everywhere.
Never mind you explain it at the end
Hey the Belshanar thing you said reminds me of the Biblical story of Daniel, which is about a king called Bellshazzar I think
Duke of Italy They were certainly inspired by Babylonian names. Bel means "lord" or "master" which is pretty appropriate for a king.
the high elves bureaucracy is hilarious
Another great one Arch - However, you have made so many jabs the End Times that I think I would enjoy a video of you ranting and dismantling the End Times.
At least your Skaven made a good showing of themselves in that whole fiasco. At least thats the impression I have, I haven't read it, just read a synopsis. I can't bring myself to actually read it all burned down - feels like a crime of literary arson.
So, many, names.
They probably are going to make the TW game somewhat like Warhammer:Mark of Chaos in terms of Units and Abilities
That was (and still is) a great game, that deserved better from its developers.
and that rule you mentioned is not in the newest rule book before the end time and age of sigmar
Have you heard of the High Elves?
"And the Kothari are the gods of, you know, horrible war, torture, rape; that kind of stuff. Because of course the elves of a god of rape because you know, why the hell not?"
I literally lost it!
Arch I really need to ask, why do you hate the end times so much? With "age of Sigmar" coming out will you even continue the game?
Jack Beaver age of Sigmar is going to have to do something pretty god damn amazing for me to continue with fantasy tabeltop,
Arch Warhammer As someone who dropped a ton of money on an undead army to get back into it I sort of have to. Have you read the post on warhammer.org.uk where this guy had 2 hours with the fluf book and writes about what the nerw world is like?
+Arch Warhammer It did something alright!
Arch Warhammer in the words of Yahtzee "age of sigmarines would have to escape from a sodding ubliet and commence a blowjob marathon that makes my feet recede into my legs to impress me"
this guy is a right proper nerd XD good vid though
Dwarves: my crown now
Wait wtf? 11:50 High elves warhosts are mostly citizen levies because they train all citizens in warfare just in case dark elves attack (which they often do to grab slaves). So for some empire pirates to successfully attack a high elf village is bullshit since everyone there would be able to fight with a few at least holding 100 years of training under their belt if not a few actual battles.
what is the end times, is it some revision of the lore, and why it so bad?
+dqwers for what I've heard it's the latest part of the lore released, everybody (espacially arch) hates it because it fucks everything up (killing everybody) instead of developing and improving
it is hated mainly because it destroys all the factions, places, things, etc. And puts space marines in the place.
I had finally just started collecting for Warhammer fantasy and started my high elven army. if there's any pieces I should get that is a necessity or a good leverage to most armies. comments would be most appreciated!